#CMU (2022-2023)
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hmm on other treads, people are telling GT CS >> UIUC CS
and that UIUC is a party school
if ur a hardcore grinder and like the competitive atmosphere cmu might be a better fit
really?
competitive atmosphere..
idt u can transfer into cs at cmu
yeah, i'm hearing GT CS >> UIUC CS >> UIUC CS+X >> Austin CS
gt cs > uiuc cs really?
wait no way its better than UT cs ??
i thought UIUC CS > GT = UT CS > UIUC CS+X
GT is a pure STEM school
take cost into account 🫡
theyre like abt the same
i think im going w gtech
per rankings, i think GT CS may be same as UIUC CS and both are much above UT CS
what is
personally I'd pick gtech over uiuc
they want $800
WHAT
what about ut austin turing?
why
i think austin turing is in same league as UIUC CS and GT CS
plus better internship placement at faang allegedly
UT > UIUC > GT
you can
but its pretty hard
gotta take 6 core cs classes
oh
UT is one of the most fun colleges
not again 💀
we all know what holistic review means
lol.. add CMU to the mix
THEY WILL REGRET REJECTING ME
it's probably because they are not as selective as say GT or CMU
as they take lot of in-state students
nah
eg UT takes 80-90% in-state
GT also takes a lot in state
this is mostly bc of state law
true but not as much as UT
not the school
@coarse root thats not true lmao
the state law says
UIUC nonresident is much more selective than GT
UT must accept around 80% IS
i made a bet with a kid in CS
yeah true because of state law, UT is not as selective for in-state, so 70-80% of their student population would be mediocre
if i get in
he gives me his CMU sweater
(his sister isa freshman at Tepper)
now i wont get a free sweater

UT OOS is very selective for OOS so the 10% admits would be extraordinary but due to state requirement, UT is not as selective for in-state, so 70-80% of their student population would be mediocre.
damn, rejected
ah well
got an interesting rejection letter though, talked about having an alumni family
here's the extra para for those who are interested
leaving the thread, gl to all and congrats on making it in to ppl who did!
you got in?
i think so
Wow
i guess they do take legacy into consideration? thought it was worth putting here
ig stats/essay werent enough. +cs ofc
yeah they do
yea now my family is fucking scrambling to fly over there to ask abt finaid stuffs 😭
and tour
they wil pay for it
the flight
oh whaat
what my family will pay or the school 💀
in the case i gotin
the latter
You should go on the 13th :)
Wot
well for info session at least idk
For fun tho cause it’s mainly Ed ppl
where do they mention this?
there any difference between priority waitlist or reg waitlist? or am i just getting baited lol
everyone gets the option to choose one or the other
you will be told
by 5/5
for prio waitlist
on my decision it said prio waitlist and one of the first to be accepted if rejected
ur like 99.99% not gna get in
it says that but everyone gets option to choose which one
ohhh
u will see on april 7 when ppl can sign up for whichever waitlist option u want
preciate u
only if its ur first choice
because its only taking spots away from people really want it
eh if u turn it down they'll just have to wait another day to receive the notice
as long as ur acting in good faith I wouldn't worry about it too much
baited a lil bit
prio waitlist is like ed3
ED 69
Do they take a decent amount of people from Priority Waitlist?
how many people do they offer waitlist?
did u get the waitlist?
i got in DS but just curious
From CMU website, "In 2022, we admitted 41 students from our Waiting Lists. "
Panda, which major did you apply in?
Tepper business
Best birthday present ever
Is Tepper easier to get into
‼️
What major did u get in
chemical engineering
school of arts and sciences?
depends
i applied scs
does priority waitlist cost money or something
or can i just pick it
oh and nonbinding
W
i'll just do that
is tepper easier than CS To get into
by a lot yeah
it costs 800 if u get admitted
yeah
it says that the 800 is the cmu deposit payment
It's the desposit lol
so regardless i would have to pay if i got in
u said chances are 1% tho so more likely no payment for me
oh tf?
money W
i thought I read it was extra for priority
you only pay the deposit (and have to pay) if you get accepted from prio wl AND want to enroll
if you get rejected from prio wl. or if you don't respond to your acceptance from prio wl, i believe you do not have to pay
major?
ai
seems kinda wild tho
cause i gotta commit to another school
and then if cmu wants me then i have to debate within 3 days if i actually want to commit there instead
hmmmmmmm
nah priority wl is the strat
unless u have a better school u got waitlisted too that comes out after
naw i dont have any others
i'd wait until after ivy day to decide whether or not priority wl
also if u think $800 is worth that extra bit of chance go for it
actually i just looked at my financial aid and its like 60k a year 🗿 i think im good
same :((
well
don't be sad
life goes on
🫡
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No
I don’t know what this show is
Therefore spoilers
yeah but the priority wl comes out before others
it's just a guy asking random japanese ppl weird questions
Ig
you can always reject it
so if you're still waiting for others u have to either let go of cmu or spend 800
and not pay
but then u lose cmu
well yeah but you could also just let go of it in the first place
not sure, you have the choice to do more or less, pretty sure you can "easily" get a cs minor at the least
does cmu pay to fly out admitted students? i was thinking of registering for a visit
Yes
oh wow
from this link? https://admission.cmu.edu/portal/admitted_tartan_visit
i haven’t seen anything about them saying they do tho lol
what major did you get in for?
math
school of arts and sciences?
college of science ye
bet
I had the same question
What percent of applicants get waitlisted for cs
And how many are admitted for cs from the priority waitlist?
did u get waitlisted
Yes
almost zero chance for CS
that’s what I thought lol
there were 3 admitted to SCS from WL last year, there might be more this year (because of fewer acceptances)
yeah
@hearty delta do u have any stats for this yr
you mean my year? no stats for this year have come out yet
the only thing i know not on the cds is some numbers cmu scs gave us during orientation: scs had a 3,x% acceptance rate, 3 people got in from wl, and stuff about internations + others i forget
@hearty delta is it easier to get off waitlits for tepper
i'm not sure actually, i'm pretty sure 35 people got off waitlist for all of cmu but idk about how many got off for tepper
probably like 10 lol
whats SCS class size?
220 or smth for us, 200-250 usually i think...
so like 1000 total?
so basically out of 10kish applicants like 300 get in a year and 220-250 enroll?
hope this helps
is this SCS only?
no this is all of cmu
ah
per year, scs has about 250 students enrolled from who knows how many applicants lol
we have around 600 undergrads in all of scs 🤔
numbers messed up from different sources
won't be joining you there :D
more like 26.7% for all cmu from 2021-22 dataset
that number might be higher for your year, and acceptances lower
😦
nor at MIT
nor at caltech
nor at uiuc
:D
lmao
i was not in top
45% of applicantrs
wtf
oh
i dont get it
19878 is the number of men who applied, not total number
36 act, top 100 usamts, p good essays imo, etc. and not even a wl?
cmu might've missed out, i'm sure you'll do great elsewhere too
yeah i'll go to a great college! j not the best
we'll see mb ivy day will pull thru for me who knows
i lowk want to go to yale more than any other college so
prayge
🙏
ay jin what's good
fellow philosophy + CS enjoyer
CMU trippin for not accepting you
did you get in?
Hopefully
but cmu way better for cs anyway lol
Lol true
But I’m also dedicated to philosophy so
Definitely choosing Yale in a heartbeat
yeah makes sense
If I get in
Anyone would say this about their top choice lmao
philosophy imo is more like
you can study whatever you want on your own time
it is p much just reading
while cs u need that degree and name on resume
if u want to work in cs i mean
Do you plan to study philosophy for fun
like philosophy academia?
I’m p serious about it
i've been changing my wallpaper to be the next college decision i have
Lmfao
lol @grave falcon
I haven’t even looked at a single picture of CMU before your wallpaper
I want to double major but I’m not sure what yet
everyobne has that
I think it’s for everyone
that isn't CMU
that's yale
Thats yale
Oh 💀
cmu not that pretty 💀
"you will be among the first students admitted to Carnegie Mellon from the waiting list."
Just proves even more my ignorance of college appearances
so this is for everyone?
yeah
Thouhh Yale is one of the few I actually visited
priority waitlist is not for everyone i think?
idk why they put that
physics, math, cs are what I am considering but I applied everywhere as a math major
The most based option is just going balls deep in pure math
I did applied math
😮
I don’t think I’m smart enough for pure math
Is priority waitlist binding then?
no
Cornell? More like Corn L
u just lose deposit
CMU? More like CUM
I learned today that Cornell black listed my school so i hate it now
Do you basically pay to increase your chances?
no
Is blacklisting actually real
It seems messed up to punish a bunch of kids for something they didn’t do
Indeed
I think schools should just do some disciplinary action if their student breaks it
So they automatically get rescinded
what happens if
you commit to some school by may 1
but then when they get your year round transcript
you get rescinded for shit grades
Isn’t it also the guidance counselors fault
Lol
I think just CC
That’s kinda my worry ngl
But try to avoid that situation
I’m barely holding onto Bs in 5 classes
i am good for everything except physics
My school only reports end of year grades which is nice
wait a second
for midyear grades
all colleges got my 1st and 2nd quarter grades
but for the end of year thing
will they see all 4 quarters or just final grade in the class ?
i should ask my guidance counselor this
if it's j final transcript and not report card
then i am probably chilling
i have 98 in physics first two quarters
You’re kinda fucked
Why
so if i do bad this quarter i'll still have good final grade
Because colleges need a midyear report
not really
i emailed them they said it was optional
As optional as essays
some colleges want others dont care i think
Our school doesn't even give them
so idk what to do
Oh then you’re good
The only college I can think of that doesn’t consider senior grades are UCs
Oh yeah you’re fine
Every school (hs) is different
It’s also a really bad look if you’re unable to get the grades sent
I’m just chillin while A2C burns
How is it my fault
i don't send the grades
I didn’t say it was
How is something a bad look if it wasn't under my control
That wasn’t about you it was a general statement
oh ok
About how if you have midyear grades and fail to send them it’s a bad look
yeah
What's the best schools u got accepted into
are my chances of getting off waitlist essentially null
uhh
I have a list hodlup
CS
all
actually wait
You should do a LOCI but I think some people overstate how important they are
lemme dm this
UIUC & GT damn
hmm ok
if you're able to get into both UIUC & GT
why did you apply to so many schools 💀
bc I'm a mid applicant
I lucked out
cap
I applied to 19 schools
plus i'm from a competitive magnet school lol
Currently 7-5-4
i have 0 defers/waitlists lol
For accept-rejected-waitlist
only definitive accept/reject
hey you got into CMU though that's all that matters hehe
best cs school i got into is gt, rejected at mit/cmu/caltech/uiuc
yep same here rejected MIT / Stanny
I applied to 2 safeties 2 targets and rest reaches
Gt is on the same level basically
nah
Did u get into other reaches
i mean it's good but
I mean I think UIUC grainger is a reach for me
#1 is its own league
yeah
Damn
my parents forced me to
stats?
I just did Brown Columbia Yale
this will be a useful question if i get into some ivy
for now doesn't matter
" a garrulous 50 year old british man "
1st and 3rd options based.
What’s wrong w Columbia
How the fuck did I get into here?
core curriculum and stuff
Columbia kids are kind and clever
i applied to all minus columbia
brown open curriculum >>>>
bc you're cracked ❤️
lmfao
That’s fair
what subject
Yea
Engineering
Persoanlly the Columbia core are all stuff I’d be interested in even in an open curriculum so I’m good with it
makes sense
Why can't i find any fellow Tepper students
Thanks! Wanted a little A2C break lol
there's an admitted students discord I think
@hearty delta
When is my acceptance package coming
HII im tepper but i dont think im committing cmu
Where else did u get in?
can u send me a link to the discord
umich ross!!
Ooh congrats!
Did you apply to Stern or Wharton?
🗿 how do i barter for more finaid
I found 1 CMU '27 Discord but it seems like a deadchat. Is there one that's active
Trying to weight CMU vs Purdue
you can use the school x vs y thread
bro go cmu
What major
1.5 years at Purdue vs. 4 at CMU
idk
oh sheesh
ic
yeah then go purdue
What’s the program at Purdue
Double major in CS and Philosophy
How are you graduating in 1.5 years
that sounds so cool
Taking Purdue CS classes while I'm in high school
We go to a feeder and can take classes there
You can’t transfer those credits?
I was taking like my 15th Purdue class during the application season
Probably not
which major are you pursuing
Computer Engineering at CMU, CS and Philosophy at Purdue
do ygs know about CMU's aid?? i always got the impression that they didnt give much aid
if cost doesn't make a difference, then CMU. Otherwise, go to Purdue since it's a great public school with abundant resources, all at a portion of the cost.
I thought they would meet demonstrated need
cos i thought they didnt meet 100% of all aid
i believe they were need blind and give need based aid but NYU claims that as well
Colleges do have a different view of what you need though
cos they gave me a hella stacked aid package and i was admitted RD which is sick
they should but it can still be pretty expensive even with efc factored in
CMU is pretty sick though
Ross gives 0 aid tho right
when you get waitlisted at BU, WashU, Hamilton, and UVA but got into CMU 🥰
actually no they gave me mroe than CMU!!
Wow!!
bruh wtf?
well tehcnically they didnt, but they also cost less
i think Ross is 72k OOS in ur first two years and CMU is 83k
Believe me, in a college town it's one of the few things you can do
^^
Actually pretty useful though, I have a much better idea of what to expect and do in college
Ooh congrats on Stanford
Thank you!
Likely letter?
No, REA
Does Stanford even have likelies
it does I think
Our school is having a banner year rn
We had 1 Stanford, 1 MIT, 1 Northwestern, 2 Columbia, and 2 NYU
And that was just early
I think 2 people just now got into CMU?
thas crazy
Ye
I mean yeah thats doable for just a very good normal HS
That’s crazy
we had 2 Cornells and a UPenn and that’s about it
@frozen crater ur mom is 🥵
Ah, here comes one of the Columbia kids smh my head
So typical
how many people usually get waitlisted at cmu?
Last year we had 9 upenn
and we are public school
in NJ
Goddamn, that's hella impressive
See, I hear this and then I think about warning her to unconnect on Linkedin
Our last year was not quite as good lmao
Yes, only 3 Stanny kids
Shut up
last year for our school was quite impressive, especially for cornell
What about Pierre that got into MIT?
Yes we did, but there was less people going to other top schools
ik ik
@timid kayak do you know mr.carr he went to Stanford
Ok
Yes did you get in
Yes
@timid kayak MAKE IT STOP THE VOICES IN MY HEAD THEY ARE GETTING TO LOUD
For my curiosity what made you think I might know this person, I could be totally forgetting a name so I want to clarify
Wait @frozen crater how are you committed??
I'm not???
Prefrosh and verified are different roles I think
Yea
Yes im not committed either but the red undeniably looks better than the blue Lmao
True!
😭 damn im trying to convince my parents to let me go to CMU but its just like. they dont like how its so expensivee 😭 even tho i have aid atm
what are your other options
and price for both
out of curiosity
I mean there's always sticker shock right? If you got good aid then just let them think about it for a while
It should be fine
🐒 UF for a year and then transfer to Georgia Tech (transfer pathways)
what major?
cs (looking to work w/ ai)
When can you declare AI for SCS?
but uh how much is the difference in cost
Yeah lmao CMU CS is an absolute top tier program
thing is like idk for georgia tech since i literally got rejected for this year 💀
so obv no finaid package to look at
@hearty delta
UF is prob cheap asf since in state and all the florida scholarship things
Is the transfer to GA Tech guaranteed?
yea
but cmu scs yarghhh
theyre like. lol just apply (to cmu scs) again the next year so you can have a year living close and on your own and then moving further
☠️ THEY WILL NOTTTT LET ME IN AGAIN
It does seem like a risk unless you email an AO and see whether you can work something out
Not sure whether that will work but might be an options
yeah lol
CMU SCS is too rng
cant rely on getting in twice
also if you get in and dont go and then reapply I think its kind of a bad look
Better than Baltimore
After freshman year
My fried didn’t realize decisions were today until I asked him
How did it go
💀
Ok thanks
Need to start making gpt6 my sophomore year 🧠
5*
At the end of your freshman spring semester
Yes. I recommend if you truly want a chance to get into CMU through waitlist, to do priority
It’s not binding but your saying that u r accepting whatever aid they give u and that u will pay the deposit and commit once u r in. Similar to ED. I personally wouldn’t do it unless u r set on CMU 2000% and the aid they give u
where does it say this?
I googled it
I cant find anything that says that when I google it, could u send what u see?
My fafsa efc is 4 digits 💀
💀
ur set
i got waitlisted and when i looked at my aid they gave me 20k
my fafsa was high as hell too
you accept the waitlist and then get lucky
what do you define as cs?
maybe u didn't submit ur fafsa early enough
yeah that'll do it
But I submitted everything in IDOC
submit that and then give it like a week
not enough intrinsically, but u can still do a lot of CS stuff. One of my roommates graduated UC Davis as a stats major, he’s a SWE at Walmart now
Actually a week?
congrats on cmu bro
ohh thats weird i had my finaid button below the decision letter (or above, but still. it was there. both on my phone and desktop)
I think it’s cause of my schedule e being missing
What year does the fin aid docs have to be?
22 eighth?
Right*
Not 21?
Walmart??
I just sent CMU an email, posted the doc they needed on IDOC
what major did you apply for?
School of engineering
Computer engineering
My efc is really low though
Like
Low 4 digits
Are you in state?
If you don't mind, stats?
Uh
Sure
One sec
800 math, 710 reading, rank 5th in my school
As for activities
It was two cs related internships
First robotics
And then varsity track team captain and varsity tennis
Mun and chess club president
Senior Class treasurer
Ooh nice!
And then community service stuff at my local mosque
woahhh ur cracked
For awards I had an award from my internship, mun school level award, all of the placements we had in robotics (semi-finals in NYC regional), letter of commendation, ap capstone diploma
I wanted to update with a 3rd place trophy for chess (u400 lmao) but there was no updates option
Thanks man, my high school years have not been very fun tho I’m ngl
Like
As far as friends go, I’d say like I’m more of an acquaintance with a lot of people rather than having a group of friends
I don’t think it’s cause of the work i put into stuff
Just how it ended up being based on the type of person I am
I did end up with a gf last year so it worked out I think lol
Still together
But yeah
Denied Boston, denied mit, denied Johns Hopkins, deferred and waitlisted northeastern
Denied stony honors
Got into GTech tho
Hope that all answers your guys questions!
Ooh nice!
I gotta wait for aid now cause I’m a dumbass lol
are you waiting for any other decesions?
All the ivies
I’m a shotgunner lol
Low efc = fee waivers
Carnegie Mellon was my top choice tho based solely off of programs and rankings
guys
Besides mit
is gtech CS worth the extra 15k a year vs UCSD CS
Yeah lol
Absolutly
Co op programs
All 💀
stanford too?
Nah too many essays lol
I ran way too late from the deadline
Like my winter break was spent grinding essays
I’m ngl tho, my essays for CMU were kinda mid lol
And my personal statement was mid too
real
i just extended my 250s for other schools by 50 words lmao
Bro I half assed the essays and then my brother was like just submit it lol
I legitimately thought it was gonna be a rejection today lol
Yeah lol
I gotta wait on fin aid cause I did a stupid lol
me when 83k 💀
ya everhthing
Damn
I have the Pell grant at least lol
if all these schools want me full paying then fuck man
dub
cmu wants my family to pay full price
I forgot to send in my schedule e apparently
It wasn’t on IDOC as a thing I was missing so I forgot lol
💀
Ivy day is next week tho
9 decisions that day I think for me
Wbu guys?
I'm waiting for three more lol
can you afford it
Upenn, Cornell, and Umich
no my npc displays lower amt so i’m appealing
Nice
umich is on the 30th?
Good luck man, I hope you get it
Good luck!
if i do priority wl, do i have to go to cmu if i get accepted?
oh damnnn
what's the rate?
probably later
Did CMU release admission stats
I heard it’s 50 according to my friend who got waitlisted
I don’t think so lol
But you can accept being on it after all the march decisions
Which masjid
I’m also NY
dude thats so cap
especially for cs
I’m on LI
I think he read the wrong doc lol
I’m looking online
Some single digit number lol
well yeah
Yeah
Rejected stony honors but got in normal
What does CMU send I. Their admission package
scs impossible to get in off prio right
<1% but not impossible, I know people who got in
is ther anything u can do or just hope
Didn’t you get in off waitlist?
Yes, they might ask u for an additional essay later on, so keep working on ur ecs
Does CMU allow locis or additional materials
Yea I did lol
I don’t think so, but might as well write an email to ur regional ao
also what ab mcs is that a lil easier?
Probably negligibly easier than scs wl but I wouldn’t count on it
Also wl acceptance might be higher this year than last
SCS probably has a more talented waitlist pool but it depends on yield more
Yield for the different schools
mcs first and scs second
Lol I’m sorry but there is no way you get into SCS but not MCS
What was your major in MCS
yes def
I still don’t get why anyone wouldn’t do the priority waitlist
Is there any catch or downside to it
how do u get on the priority waitlist
yeah idk if its not actually binding in any way why not
cause if you get waitlisted to another school
you can’t wait for a potential offer
but like what are the odds you get off of two waitlists 💀
You make CMU your exclusive waitlist?
I only have 1 waitlist I’ve actually accepted
State your interest and give updates
At worst it will do nothing
For CMU even if they don’t accept it they won’t be mad
As long as your don’t spam them it wont hurt
CMU doesn’t consider interest at all though
@hearty delta where can u find regional aos
Oh shoot mb CMU doesn’t have regional aos
U might as well just wait to see if u receive an additional essay request later on then, ull be able to update them then
is there any data on the CMU waitlist for ECE
What's the easiest major to get in waitlist
i have no clue lol
Quite a few people getting into cmu
guys does priority waiting list actually mean anythign
it means that u will commit if u get in with whatever aid they give u (not binding tho) but yeah its kinda like ED
so do i actually have a good chance of getting in
i also didn't apply with any aid, does not affect their decision
doesn’t mean anything afaik
wdym
Its j like they look at priority first
If a spot opens
how is it not binding but like ED?
LMAO ikr
Just read pinned
yea I alr looked it up I was j confused ab what they meant as in like Ed but not binding
cuz imo the key part of ED is that it’s binding
Valid
wtf
gg
Did rd come out?
Yesterday
Damn I had no idea lol
They didn't email that they'd updated the portal
Ed deadline ?
rwhat is this UF
cmu
is the CMU waitlist need aware?
ive heard that it is
anyone know around how many kids are waitlisted just for SCS usually? (just out of curiosity)
Yes
Says in their admissions policy section of their website
yes
you can check cmu's common data sets
hmm, on that i was only able to find the number of waitlists for all of cmu but not SCS specifically?
is there a specific doc i should be looking at?
if CMU waitlist’s reply is after may 1
and you pay the enrollment deposit
at another uni
can you go back on that uni if you get accepted or is it binding
yes ok
cmu even says that u should pay to enroll at another uni
cause waitlist isn't guaranteed
just be prepared to lose like a few hundred if u decide on cmu in the end
yeh fair enough
not sure, i think people can change majors when accepting waitlist too.. so it may vary
ah ok i see
Is cmu waitlist need aware?
Yes
someone should pin that
oh ok then I will have no chance 😭
Could someone link a source
Asking for a friend
No reliable recourses just saw someone’s comment on raddit and cc
?
Second part
Tysm
Can someone pin this
can someone add me to the cs discord server?
I can pm proof of admission
i just don't know how to join
can I be added to the cmu server
nvm someone invited me alr
Can i also be added?
does anyone know how double majoring in SCS works? i got into Tepper but can anyone just do a double major in CS as long as they finish the requirements? (ik double majoring is gonna be extremely hard when it comes to the courseload but how hard is it to actually start a double major since ik that CMU CS is extremely competitive)
i think you have to do the core CS classes
before being able to declare a double major
i see i see
oooooh thats nice
at least ik i can actually do a double major in CS and the hardest part is actually having the mental health to go through with their CS curriculum
It’s non binding
Pls check the pin
Hello
Does everyone get priority waitlist?
yep!
im a double in the two
So You Want To Transfer To SCS (or double major, or minor, or something) An SCS Transfer’s Thoughts Written by Brandon Wu Last revised, January 2023 Author’s note: This document has long since outlived the audience that it was written for. Regardless, I hope that the information contained withi...
I couldn’t find the link in the thread
Found it in my Google drive
@late lion
Surviving as a direct admit is probably difficult enough but transferring sounds like hell
3.6 GPA 😂
Would minoring in CS has a math major be hard @earnest timber
