#RUTGERS! (2022-2023)
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I don't even have under review checked off
All I want for Christmas is RU
u think theyll come out tmro also?
I'm guessing no because of break tbh
damn
Yeah they’re probably not doing anymore till January
No I refuse to believe this
Ruggers pls release the decisions I beg
Pls
fr


Anyone get results instate CS?
Did you?
Haven’t heard results back but I applied RD
I applied ea, as an in state. Haven’t gotten anything back yet. Although I’ve heard some international students got theirs
yes many int'l students got in
CS and biz
dk abt that lol
You get in?
yes most prolly
Why can’t colleges send their decisions faster?
Like I cant wait another month
😭
I’m in state from camden county and haven’t gotten New Brunswick back yet but my friend from south brunswick said some of her friends got their decisions/have enrolled
if u google it, it does say NB has rolling admissions
“These are not deadlines. You may apply after due dates have passed. However, if you apply after the due dates or if your file remains incomplete after due dates for credentials submission have passed, you will be withdrawn from admissions consideration if your school(s) of application meet enrollment goals before the Admissions Office reviews your application.”
From the admissions website
guys
the time u get ur decision depends on the school u applied to
SOS is different from coe
j to clarify im international and mine still says "application submitted" lmfao
I got in. (NB) When should I expect scholarship info?
Not for a while lol
do they email you when your decision comes out
which departments at NB had decisions come out? CAS? COE?
when is sos
and y is it called sos instead of cos
school of science instead of college maybe
wait no
thats wrong
im losing my mind
does anyone know when/how you can view financial aid offers? The CAS at Camden and Newark both accepted me by 12/1, and almost a month later I still don't see anything in the RU app portal, neither when I log in w/ my community id or the net id I created. Also nothing when I log into FAFSA.
this is definitely the most frustrating application to do lol
why cant it just be on common app lmao
Cause that’ll be too easy
too many nj people just apply to rutgers tbh, so thats why having their own platform, no matter now stupid works for them
the ease of common app is that you can apply to many colleges at once
It’ll be on common app next year
classic
international?
all these schools and the ACT are cucking me
WHERE ARE MY SCORES
WHERE ARE MY DECISIONS
also, NB?
👍
do yall think the ppl getting accepted early are honors college material? like what’s making AOs look at them and say, “yeah we definitely want them” without looking at everyone else?
I would say most of them are just international students
I don’t know any domestic students that got their decision
yeah cause they know international got the $$$
ive only heard like 1 domestic student get in
so true
Uhh a friend from south brunswick said two of their friends are already ENROLLED 😬
This admissions pattern makes absolutely no fucking sense
my admissions counselor can admit these balls into their mouth
huh what
all we can do is wait though 😭
when does rutger nb usually come out in the past years?
chance bot really humbled me
dayum
Before Jan
Or at least that’s what I’ve seen at my school
Hopefully first week of Jan
Ruggers gang😎
MAN I HOPE THATS THE CASE BC 😭😭😭😭
mine is not even under review yet. 😭
watch rutgers release it on the last week of January 😭
😭Rutgers betrayed us
I hope this is false
I don’t generally whine but
Ruggers pls
fr. i applied in october. can't be this hard to make a decision for me
I think one day I should take the road trip down to their admissions office
And ask them to release decisions
and tell them to prioritize cs along with your major also
oh you're cs too well that makes your trip easier doesn't it
Nah I’m Premed
Cs is cool tho
I’m just and at computers
RBS > STERN BITCHES
nj students: yeah cs and premed arent a good fit for me so im gonna to Rutgers Buisness School!
NoOOoOoo soN yUo aRE DoINg PrEmeD!!!
lol my parents also don't want me doing finance
tbh my ECs and stuff also don't rlly line up w/ finance so ... ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t wanna do finance
Just doesn’t strike me as much as my other interests
yea same
before cs, i considered accounting but it only felt like a side hustle and not something i want to major in
Fair enough
not sure if this is a thing already but a philosophy minor would certainly be something i'm interested in
Philosophy cool tho
I’m prolly gonna end up doing psychology Premed
Unless they let me do just Premed
Idk if Rutgers has that as a major or not
I don’t think so. I just always go looking for my major.
Did Rutgers have a 2nd major selection?
me who’s doing econ:
I bet you I’m the only biochem major in this thread
plz- pharm d so close enough but im gonna switch to biochemical engineering with materials science as my "academic interest"
so no you aren't
minus chem, im a bio major
i heard it's good
Eh close enough
If you don’t mind me asking what are you planning on doing
Me who said Biochem but ill prolly gonna switch out of it 👀
Premeds💪
Then that doesn’t count lol
That’s pretty cool
Biochem just seems like too much work
I need to relax in college
Maybe actually get some sleep
u don't get sleep in college lmao
Well then at least I can party my nights out or something
ehhh
idk where mfs go getting absolute hell for uni
sister went to ucla and was mad chillin
UCLA seems chill ngl
Idk if they’d accept me 😭
med
college seems chill ngl
i hope at least 1 accepts me
Cool
Yessir
Gl!
u2
Does anyone else keep getting these emails from RU newark?
I get them too and I didn't apply to newark
uhh fishy
I applied to all 3 campuses and have already been accepted to newark so Im trying to figure out if its a scam
scam? probably not lol
my guess is they just haven't updated emailing lists
ok makes sense
I mean it’s got to be this month
did any instate ppl get their decisions yet for new brunswick
Im getting into NB but i wont feel any sort of security until I do
Nope just newark and camden
alright
No😔
Ruggers NB why!!!! Why!!!! Why did you take the internationals first💀
Why can’t is be like “NJ first” 😭
😭 IKR
They want da money
no fr but also dont they get state funded to like take in more nj ppl
No Trenton has been cutting their state funding so they look for Oos/internationals to make up the loss
That’s unfortunate
I assure you my parents pay the state taxes😭
But tbh internationals paying 33k
Which is more than double
bruh when tf is nb coming out
wth i applied in late september and havent even gotten an email from them since the portal
Ruggers😭
same
applied 10/1 same lmao
SAME
Hell I didn’t even get an email from Newark about my acceptance I just check the portal one day lol
I woke up to an email from Camden on 12/1 after applying on 11/1 and saw that Newark had accepted me to, they only sent me an email recently
im an intl, submitted on 11/1. got into newark on 11/12, and nothing from NB till today. This better not be signs of a rejection since so many other intls are alr admitted
they come out in waves so you're probably fine lol
has nobody instate heard back from nb?
Yep 
bros have like 10 buisness days left to drop EA decisions
theres no way this is an intentional policy right
they fucked up and now theyre cramming last second
10?
They have to drop by Jan 15?
dont they?
RUTGERS!
I swear if they do it on the 27th😭
All my decisions coming on that day
Maybe I’ll make a video out of it
😭
For real.
I should wear a suit or something idk
UIUC, UNC, this, perhaps even Michigan
Nah I got work at 4 pm so imma make a video from my phone 😭
Wait they come out at 4pm?
Ha imagine working💀
That or 7
If it was on Monday- Thursday then I would be home
I come home at 2:40
It’s different for me, working is my number 1 extracurricular
Same
Or cool science job?
Manager at a restaurant
Has ruggers put your app under review yet?
Mine still says on the application submitted
I don’t think it’ll ever say under review
We’ll probably just get our decisions before it says under review
Wouldn’t be surprised.
Found out I chose EE for 3rd choice 💀
First, it was not having an application for common app. 2nd, taking forever to receive my SRAR, and now this lol
Srar takes too long to submit
I’m in state
Why can’t they take transcripts from my school
Why?????
Like is that not the same lol
NYU wants both but at least I completed for ruggers so I’m good
Worse for me cuz this is my 3rd high school lmao
NYU asks for quarter grades so I just😳
Noped out of that
From like first quarter? Even for RD?
Rd they’ll ask for semester
U applied ED?
No. I might’ve but they ask so I didn’t
I will ask my counselor next week. Prob won’t even have it as teacher takes ages to finalize grades
Too cold compared to nyc and nb
Dk how I’m going survive snow taller than me
They’re my safety so… I just said nah
I prob won’t send them mid year grades at this point
Just be 6’0+😎💪
already taller than both my parents. not much i can do 😭
I mean I’m basically 5’9
Supposedly the average height but I can live with snow just fine
aye im 5'8 and like 1/2 so we same
That rounds up. You 5’9. I round up😭
natural instinct to do that 😂
Naturally. I mean with shoes on I’m much taller
I should get shoes that are like 3-4in taller so that I can pretend to be tall
: )
Bro that’s a good senior prank idea
All the normal height and short kids get these
Show up to school in these
Anyways anyone watch anthpo vids
They make Ruggers seem cool
Mine says under review
Good for you 😭
sameee 
You were giving me hope💀
Mine isn’t even under review yet and I applied in like September
I dont understand how they're working it out like is it even rolling at this point 😭
cuz i applied like two days before the deadline and mines under review compared to my frds who applied two months before me and theirs are not
wtf
yeah idk anymore like is mine j glitching or smthing
did u apply to only NB?
yeah
in-state?
yepp
interesting
💀 imagine if the AOs are just randomly clicking ppl's things to be under review
Drive down to the nb ao office and protest for your decision
on my way 
istggg i j dont think its rolling admissions...is it rolling? i forget
Yes apparently 😭
😭 tf idk watch them dump all our decisions on the last day
11:59 EST be like:
let's j keep waiting yall T_T
Nah we should all march down to their offices
idt they would even care 💀
proceeds to find no one in the offices, hence why admissions are taking so long
everyones still on winter brk, more like thansgiving brk
AOs never came out of it
Proceeds to only find the international AO there
Hey look Gandhi did it to the Bri’ish why can’t we do it to Ruggers
We oppressed too
they're really out there playing w our under review buttons
Nah they playing with our minds💀
Fr man don’t think it’s that hard to send out decisions. Even earlier batches, im sure they have already made decisions and is there just hanging around
Especially for in state. But tbh maybe they got more apps this year
Cuz they took in internationals first so…
Maybe they taking longer for remaining internationals and domestic
Since they not doing in state might as well do oos next then
Jk do both

Tellin you Ruggers in state before all 
Because
Ruggers💪
NJ best state
Add KY to it too. Not much apply for ruggers so it’s ez
litereally the worst
Tbh it’s my only in state school
Fight me
NJ is an urban hellscape
*dont
ayo same i applied to like two schs instate schs rutgers and stevens
not really
Seeing everyone get into to their school is so exciting. Can’t even imagine my reaction when I get some acceptances coming in
at least we dont have destructive snow storms every other day
and yk we have every biome in our state
Idk if I wanna stay in Nj tbh. 💀 it’d be cheap but not a lot of unis
Same 2 school I applied to in Nj
we wait together then 🤝
LMAO i wanna get out of nj
I can go to NYC in less than a day
Same 😭
LA is literally better NYC
for me rutgers is like my last option
Ohio is next to me 💀
Nah LA got a homeless issue. NYC got a bigger rat issue. We got homeless but they live around the city
Same 😭 but it’s not my top choice
the homeless issue is so fucking exacerbated
we don't have anymore homeless than other cities
Each day Ruggers is looking like a better safe option for me
But idk
Oos seems exciting
densitywise we're equal
Nah Nj more dense
pop wise sure we're the biggest but we're the biggest metro area in the US
I mean Bing has a good campus and community
homeless density
And u got that MONEY
Nj as dense as India
it's my parents first choice tho 💀
Yes but Rutgers would be cheaper and waiting for illinois, Wisconsin and Mich. even Florida
I’m waiting on 16 schools 😭
acc same but i dont wanna accept it cuz like i j wanna get out of this place
I have food allergy reasons to stay close but I just wanna go some place far and exciting
I’ll just cook for myself
So long as they provide me with a stove or something
for me its more like im fed up of nj not much of a reason
Just take a 1 hr trip to nyc and eat everything
Same too many ppl here + Nj drivers💀 also I don’t like the kids in my school and half of them end up in Rutgers
But if I go oos far away from Nj nyc then I can’t
Also eating out is a big no
Bad food allergy
NO SAME LIT EVWRYONE
the last thing i wanna do is go back to high school in a uni setting
I might consider going to Rutgers only if barely anyone form my class goes
And maybe a couple friends
I’d retain a friend group in Rutgers but… idk unless I don’t get into my top choices then I’ll see
it hasn't snowed here yet this year ...
Did it not? In Dec?
i don't think that even stuck
Close enough 🤷♂️
Rlly they got in? To nb?
thats j messed up
Too Desi for me. *too competitive. 😭
My school is too that’s why I’m afraid
Nah there’s no way in hell this is rolling
Maybe for other campuses
Not for nb
Yeah not for Nb
😭💀
I’m oos and haven’t gotten anything
same, what a nightmare
Another day of not anticipating much from NB💀
Tomorrow is a Friday. I’m hoping but that’s a reach 💀
They might wait till the 15th
Or the end of the month
Nah they’re going to wait till the absolute last minute lol
Jan 31st 11:59 pm 🤡
That’s it, your done
Fr tho hoping it’s like the 15th or something in 20’s
Pls not the absolute last day
yea i hope it's not they cram everything until the last minute then waitlist a ton of ppl
oh my god imagine 😭
I hope the acceptance rate doesn’t plummet this year
Rutgers moved up the ranking pretty fast so idk
Athletes?
^^
is it weird that my app still hasnt gone to the under review stage
lmao
same here
dont understand it
i heard somewhere that it doesn't matter
cause nb doesn't use that
thats more for like newark
if u applied
I only applied to NB and have the under review checked off
When you’re that passionate about Rutgers that you become xenophobic
I got NB CS too, back in mid December and I’m in California
bro i didnt get it either, intl cs:(

TF
maybe they doing cs early
but then why cs kids in my NJ school no have it
cs kids in my intl school didnt get it either
i love ruggies
rutgers's application process baffles me
mine hasnt even reached under review yet
and all these intl mfs have alr gotten in
Maybe they consider out of state and intls first
applied late sept oos and not even under review
applied like first of october in state, not even under review
😭
Nov 1, in state, in review since at least December 1
Same except oos
mine just switched to under review
Today?
yeah
Mines been under review since November
rip
Well at least they have to release decisions in 3 weeks
We whatever the our status is
We will get it
It’d be funny if they deferred people so that they can get more time lol
Pls no
we gotta stop calling rutgers ruggers
every time i hear it htis is what i flashback to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTkNFnDcPLA
but like RUGGERS instead of yk
Bro now you got this stuck in my mind
Hadn’t thought of it
But like it’s Ruggers
Like completely different
As an NJ local I have the constitutional right to call it whatever I want 😎
and when a nj local says it, we outsiders follow
Lol, fair point
Got into newark as an oos cs person today, idt I applied to Camden but somehow it says I did. That decision isn't out yet for me though and neither is New Brunswick.
On a Saturday?
(its sunday)
*on a Sunday
I didn’t sleep tho so it’s still Saturday💀
Goddamnit Rutgers wtf is taking so long
^
it better be this week💀
It’s not going to be this week
How wonderful 
Better be
Haha I gave up on those a while ago
Happy thoughts 😃
It’s going to come this week. It’s this week until it’s not
rawr ruggers .w. uwu make me so icky sicky 🤤 i want u ruggies 🫠 my wuv 💗 roll tide ♥️ go knighties with the tightie whities 🥺🩲 my wuvy duvies
bwcause im a sick, sick indvidual raghie
roll tide 💀
The email came on Saturday, it was possibly released earlier? I didn't check my portal on Friday
At thing point tho it doesn’t even change the fact that Ruggers is late💀
It was like the 20th of December last year
Why are they so slow this year
I’m tempted to call up admissions but imma get some boilerplate response
Yeah
Well wait it out
I mean they said by the end of the month or something like that
yay got both choices at new brunswick
You got your decision today?
Congratulations 🎉🍾🎈
thank you thank you:)
^
intl?
yessir
but yo u declare major after right? is there a chance u can’t get yo major?
and im oos so instate doesn't mean anyt

BRUH the school only has 7% international students lmfao
that's 7% of acceptances that could've gone to me
lmfao
Facts
umm
question
I somehow managed to submit my application now
will it even be considered or did I just waste $70?
Maybe for spring semester or something but idk
Call them and check
Still no change on ur portal?
😭 atp it’s never going to change
It’s prolly not until I get my decision
Playing with us lmao
Last week of Jan for sure
Ain’t going to come before that
Sucks for us 
I want to contact admissions but I don’t wanna piss them off
me with stony brook
I can drive down to them if I wanted
But like
Why?
find another kid at your school applying there and use their name in the email
aka no one bc i live in ky lmao
that's messed up as well
Do you consider yourself a Midwest person or southerner?
well lived in ny for 8 years and 5 years in north carolina and only 3 in ky
idk tbh
Is Kentucky southern?
midwest
but the ppl here is no diff from southerners
that's my take
Yeah that’s why I’m saying
Regionally
Geographically they are Midwest
But socially they seem Southern
really southern like no joke
I haven’t met too many Southerners tbh
Some Georgians, Floridians but sometimes they ain’t it
And a couple from Kentucky due to how close it is to the Midwest
the ones with the country voice is really somethign else
Missouri is little of everyone
best thing ik about nj is that the workers do gas for u
It’s been 50/50 for me. Half I met sound like it and others didn’t sound it at all
They do that in India too
yes not a lot have it
That’s the first thing I through when I came to NJ
only thing is we have to give tip
so ur telling it ok not to?
No no
Idk if it’s included or not
Like I’ve never had to think abt tipping the guy who helps you with the gas
So idk
But I am a fairly new driver so…
Almost 6 months on full permit
my parents and i were on a trip to nyc and had to get gas in nj. we thought tip was a must and gave them cash
i myself same
Idk if you’re supposed to or not
so you're about get the official license
Nah 6 more months
just say “gassy ass” (“gracias”) and speed away
i can get mines next month
but i will prob get it during spring break
Nice
road test was so easy in ky
just driving in a nieghborhood for like 5-10 min
bruh
I mean I got mine done with a specific driving school
My driver had his connections and knew the easiest dmv
ah. work smarter not harder
Yep
u might need to drive up to rut(g)gers to complain every day til they release
I can do that feasibly
But
Why would I do that to Ruggers
In their home turf
You know how many Rutgers stickers I see on other cars
In Nj
a lot
Yes
always on the right side of the back of the car
Yep
same here but with UKy💀
Ruggers 😭 just release decisions for us already!!!!
That’s cool
Lotta Tulane stickers too
But Tulane is in Louisiana
tulane in nj?
Nope
oh was about to say
Yeah
free apps even got parents liking them
It’s kinda weird how so many Nj kids go there
And I see the few Princeton cars
The few
That’s definitely something
haiya flexing on us 😭
Big flex💀
Reminds me of where I’d apply if my grades and sat and ecs were all better 😔
I blame the state gov for cutting Rutgers funding so they have to turn to internationals
Exactly. We pay more than enough taxes
I’m hoping Ruggers gives out decisions before their Speing semester begins next Tuesday
both my rolling decision schools sent me nothing till today💀 (i guess at least ruggers isnt like the other one that keeps sending annoying promotional emails)
😭


Alright Rutgers, how the fuck have you not communicated at fucking all
Relax there’s 2 and a half weeks before the 31st
bro said relax
it been 3 months 😭
and usually schools that don't have an exact date sends out batches
exactly
literally nothign since the email for receiving app
😔
heyo
Rutgers is my new dream
every other school not named umass is new dream
same
I want to email ruggers but idk
I’d just say wait since they said Feb 15th
Why waste your energy
Wait isn’t it Jan 31
I thought Feb 15 was just for Camden
Oh
Oop
Well still
Wait till 31st then😔
Burgers Camden gave me my decision on 12/1
Buggers Camden you mean?
Ruggers, Buggers, and Ggers
Ruggers = NB campus
Buggers = Camden campus
Ggers = Newark campus
when rugga decision
my cousin goes to buggers
Rugga = TCNJ
huh
The College of New Jersey
tcnj is a different school
TCNJ’s campus is like what you think of when you think of a collage campus
It’s the small roads isnt it💀
I mean you can drive to campus I believe freshmen year if you’re an Nj resident so…. Wouldn’t even need to live there
I added it on common app and even sent my transcripts but I didn’t wanna apply since I prolly won’t go. Nj is home but idk if I wanna spend more time here
High taxes and congestion
Yeah they don’t have many dorms anyway
But I’d rather live on campus 1st to a college I go to
Why doesn’t ruggers come onto common app
Somewhere not too far but not too close
Acceptance rates go brrr then lmfao
Cause they want to be ✨different ✨
What's wrong with new Jersey?
small roads, high congestion, I go to hs in NJ, and high taxes
otherwise I like nj
its home for me
oh, i thought it was something more serious
rutgers new brunswick isnt a real place confirmed
legit havent gotten mail from t hem since late september
Wut?
I’ve visited tho
New Jersey isn’t really as bad people say it is
We just get shit on constantly by New York lol
That mostly
I fw NJ for the most part
Down asf to attend Rutgers or something there
I mean we’re better than ny
*nyc
But then again nyc belongs more with us than is does with the rest of ny
However much I’ll dislike Nj I’d still call it home
Also we experience all 4 seasons
So💪
Our temperature range is 9°-98° lol
Exactly. But our tax range is high too💀
We’re also a safe state
Outside of our cities
And best for education
All of our problems would be solved if we weren’t so heavily populated
Philly is nj
Everyone from my area is like i’M fRoM PhiLLy, supports the flyers/sixers/eagles/mens football union or whatever its called, eats cheesesteak, and goes to center city on the weekends
I think id say some parts I lived in like west philly
now I'm in the suburbs feels weird ngl
Or maybe it’s more like NJ is philly
So is NYC
praying for this mf school
Bro
imma get rejected just wath
Ruggers making the in states mad
What do ya’ll think abt Jan 31th💀
pork roll or taylor ham
yall rockin with 01/31/2023 @ 11:59 pm EST?
i mean
idk i have heard both lol
what is ur answer
Haven’t tried both, which one is better?
I’ve never been to NJ
iirc the debate is which is the correct name
oh
theyre both referring to the same food
yepp
i havent ever tried it but whatever
Lmao 😭
LOL
Is it good
as a southern new jerseyan
yes
pork roll is the correct answer
I will make sure to try this pork roll thing if I can
also how do you feel about pennsylvania drivers-
Oh I know I just thought it was funny lmao
bitch i moved from nj to pennsylvania
Double L
PA drivers are such a meme
I proclaim thee
After no decision from UMass, deferred from Purdue. Rutgers pls
Pitt?
Apply to Pitt they get back pretty fast
Heck no Pitt ain’t a cs school
😂
UIUC 💪
Thanks for the suggestions tho
Cs is tough
27th 🤞
For bio?
Nah
Cs?
Ah
Making a strong prediction that Rutgers coming out on Jan 27 also
I predicted Purdue for today and turns out it was today
As a central jerseyite yes
Nice
I live in the same town Rutgers NB is in
That should by cryptic enough lol
I used to work in that area
I mean so you could walk down to admissions
Right?
I went to work like a solid 10 minutes away from Ruggers NB campus
Technically
It’s like a mile and a half away from my house lol
Sneak into the room where they keep admission files and tell us our decisions
We can call it a preview
Yes do exactly that
Bet
Y’all lmao
I got into rutgers camden and newark but I want main campus decisions asap
same
Jan 31st 11:59 pm
Jan 31st 11:59:59 pm EST
oh this is crazy 😭
Jan 31st at 11:59:59:59 pm EST
Jan 31st at 11:59:59:59:59 pm EST
Jan 32nd at 11:59:59:59:59:59 pm EST
yall are all fuckin stupid asl what the fuck
they already released it u j got rejected
yield protect and allat yadda yadda
Did you got accepted?
stfu
Bruh who is this goofy mf
Imagine not knowing Ram
Bet
also i love how you left out my banner
which j adds even more to the fire
9/11 joke tho
Not cool
Hmm great idea wrong execution brotha
bro stop trolling
what
your first name is Koosha you already took the L 😭
???
is this racism bro
like literaly read your name bro
"terminally online"
mf literally is unable to touch grass yet thinks its a roast to make fun of a name i didnt pick
no im muslim too you just got a goofy ass name 😹
???? muslim?????????
thats not a fuckin race my g
my name isnt islamic
@timid sapphire
it is literally a muslim name i just looked it up
im half iranian genius
vaghan?
stop
both of u
💀
Bro yall need to up yo game
That was a childish ass roast
This is not how you out ram the ram
yeah we r all at a disadvantage when ur the ceo of sex
Fr
can we change the topic
No
name a fun fact about rutgers
The ceo of sex applied there
my friend goes there
bruh
Isn't it new Jersey
no
no it's in new york
Isn't it new jerseys public university
that's where new brunswick got the "new" from
we r just gaslighting u
yeah its in nj
boring
there's not much to do
lacking in food diversity
air is fresh tho
Clean air is not something to take For granted in this day