UChicago (2022-2023)

[safe wagon]

yeah they always do

[gentle slate]

i’m so happy

[brazen comet]

You got waitlisted?

[gentle slate]

yea

[distant onyx]

james pls shut up

[ocean mortar]

james is a nerd

[daring steeple]

as someone from chicago nu >>>>>

[safe wagon]

James can go away

DID ANYONE IN THIS THREAD GET IN

[ocean mortar]

NO

[lilac bridge]

uchi is 80k a year anyways we all dodged a bullet

[safe wagon]

we need someone here to get in we need a success story

[near temple]

uchicago ddosed everyone in the uchicago channel

[gentle maple]

Aw man

[near temple]

and rejected anyone who wasted time on discord. such a scummy move by uchicago

[rose falcon]

thats wild

[safe wagon]

Time to update my spreadsheet and watch Netflix

[gentle slate]

i’m honestly so happy

[sharp pulsar]

85 k really

[safe wagon]

U win some u lose some

[distant onyx]

when will i win

[glacial wave]

did anyone get in

[safe wagon]

My essays were ass this was expected I’m not upset

[trim karma]

no

[full pagoda]

this server might be biased towards WL though cause a lot of us are definitely top 15%

[trim karma]

nobody

[distant onyx]

[woven narwhal]

feel free to keep updating this 👍

[spice garden]

sending love to all who didnt get a decision they wanted today <3

[tame grove]

time to delete the uchicago from my nickname lmao

[full pagoda]

the thing is tho if nobody got accepted there could potentially be spots on the waitlist accepted 😍

[brazen comet]

14 people got waitlisted?

[distant onyx]

good luck to everyone who got waitlisted

[brazen comet]

WHAT WHY SO MANY

[sterile magnet]

good luck to waitlists

[tame grove]

they waitlist a lot

[wheat rampart]

waitlisted🙁🙁

[gentle maple]

Sorry to everyone, admissions brutal

[rigid crane]

i completely forgot i applied here but got waitlisted 😵‍💫

[tame grove]

chicago also has rly high yield

[brazen comet]

do they take anybody from waitlist

[distant onyx]

love y'all i hope i also get accepted to somewhere around the us

[mild rose]

omg hi thomas

[tame grove]

my guess is not many ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modern sable]

Any intl student applying for aid who got waitlisted?

[near temple]

if you got deffered, you were supposed to write a LOCI right?

[gentle maple]

HEYA

[soft rover]

I got in

[loud whale]

proof

[trim karma]

YOOOOOO

CONGRATS

[spice garden]

YAY CONGRATS!

[tame grove]

AYO CONGRATSSSSS

[sterile magnet]

W

[distant onyx]

CAN WE PLS SEE HOW AN ACCEPTION LOOKS LIKE

[tame grove]

show us the happy bubbles 😭

[limber gazelle]

confusion??

[full pagoda]

it wasn't wrong LMFAO

[tame grove]

we aint mentioning portal astronomy

[full pagoda]

@crimson turtle did you get in :p

[safe wagon]

YOOOOO

[silk flare]

Man, Mine were really good

[safe wagon]

CONGRATS U MUST BE CRACKED ASL

[wheat rampart]

this is so real

[crimson turtle]

It was a troll
I didn’t even apply lmao

[safe wagon]

Damn I’m sorry I’m sure ur gonna get into another great school tho and u seem like a good applicant

[silk flare]

I hope so Lmao

[merry portal]

Waitlisted UChicago

[silk flare]

Gets me wondering, if i did the video maybe I would have gotten in

[hard sentinel]

what does a waitlist v rejection look like

[mighty hinge]

Real

What’s the move on waitlist

[quasi ermine]

Did anyone get in lol

[sudden turtle]

anyone know what percentage they waitlist

[mighty hinge]

One so far per the server

[limber gazelle]

I'm going to chicago the day after tomorrow for a campus tour

[mighty hinge]

Sliding right to the admissions office fr

[glacial wave]

a good amount i'm pretty sure

[limber gazelle]

Hopefully write a good LOCI, demonstarte some interest

[glacial wave]

good loci and interest could def help

[quasi ermine]

That’s insane lol

Does anyone know what percent of waitlist gets in?

[sudden turtle]

smth on google said like 15% but idk where their source is

[mental rivet]

waitlist

[quasi ermine]

Well that can’t be that bad ig

[wheat rampart]

was the lack of withdrawal thing a red herring or

[ocean mortar]

no it was legit LMAO

[daring steeple]

YOUR ESSAY WAS FIRE

[hard sentinel]

lot a waitlists here

[daring steeple]

IM PROUD

[oak trench]

so no withdrawal = either acceptance or rejection?

[teal gulch]

You’re probably going to get timed out lol

[daring steeple]

AND YOU WERE RD

[mental rivet]

thank you 🙂

[hard sentinel]

anybody flat out rejected

[daring steeple]

GOOD JOB

u have good things to come

[mighty hinge]

Shawty it’s out

[oak trench]

waiting till i get home to open it with my fam 🥲

[spice garden]

tbh waitlisting so many people seems a little scummy

[heavy surge]

Guys did we all get waitlisted?

[mighty hinge]

So that was probs bs

[heavy surge]

Did we all just get waitlisted?

[hexed loom]

did everyone get wailisted?

[teal gulch]

Isn’t MIT even worse with waitlisting people.

[hard sentinel]

i guess so

[ocean mortar]

i got rejected

[mighty badge]

i’m scared to open it lolz

[woven narwhal]

reminder of this for anyone who'd like!

[hard flame]

Waitlisted 😥

[hexed loom]

smae

[heavy surge]

Same

[full pagoda]

it seems like the vast majority of people were waitlisted

[hard sentinel]

what does it look like

[mighty hinge]

Even after 4:30?

[hard flame]

NOAH ITS THEO

[hard sentinel]

here at least*

[ocean mortar]

#💪-chad-rejects message

[full pagoda]

but i can't tell if it's accurate considering this is a bias of top students so true

[gentle slate]

14?

[woven narwhal]

UChicago decisions came out at 4pm CST (5pm EST, 2pm PST, 10pm GMT) on Friday, March 10th.

[merry portal]

I was so surprised to get that email

[sterile magnet]

2 pm pst

[merry portal]

that decisions were out

[woven narwhal]

YO WAIT WHICH THEO

[brazen comet]

@crimson turtle did u get in or were u capping

[crimson turtle]

I said I was trolling
I didn’t apply at all

[loud whale]

y'all fell for it again lmao

[hard flame]

Theo tobel 😂

[ashen violet]

me

[high skiff]

waitlisted

[daring steeple]

Waitlisted, accepted my spot so quick

[gentle slate]

same lol

[hard sentinel]

😭sadgeeee

[merry portal]

does the spots run out ?

[spiral frigate]

idgaf about chicago but this is so corny 💀

[high skiff]

don’t think so

[merry portal]

or you can accept it at any time

[hard sentinel]

how the hell did so many people get waitlisted

[mighty badge]

i got ejected

they’re clowns

[crystal marsh]

Did they come out at 5 EST or just now?

[merry portal]

The students here are like Tryhards so the sample a bit biased from the population

[hard sentinel]

5

[round sable]

There's basically no point in uchig Rd with their 1% acceptance rate

Either Ed or bust

[rose falcon]

^^ its y i withdrew even tho they gv me a fee waiver

[woven narwhal]

Omg awesome! How's it going dude?

[high skiff]

did no one get accepted

[woven narwhal]

There's a Theo t at my school lol

[heavy surge]

Fellow waitlisted peeps, should we switch to ED 3?

Do you think they’ll accept us then?

[high skiff]

nah bro wait for ivy day

[daring steeple]

One of my friends just got in RD

[tame grove]

i deadass just dont know why i got my hopes up 😭 should have gone ed

[high skiff]

i’m international tho so i had no expectations to begin w

[spiral frigate]

right and the essays r so much effort i can’t understand why ppl rd

[hard sentinel]

what is that header tho 😭

[safe wagon]

Me

[trim karma]

if i did uchicago ed id have applied but rd isn’t worth it because there’s 3 rounds prior to it lmao

[still seal]

is it a red flag abt ur app to get rejected instead of waitlisted if so many get waitlisted 😭

[trim karma]

you’re fighting for scraps

[high skiff]

i’m not that bothered it’s chill

[safe wagon]

no

[tame grove]

no cause a lot get both waitlisted and rejected

[lilac bridge]

:((((((

fuck umich for doing that

[heavy surge]

Nah we’re just a server of sweats

[lilac bridge]

& fuck uchi for not accepting you

[tame grove]

bro they aint going to accept me either 😭 like i dont think theyre gonna take more from my school

[safe wagon]

it’s not indicative of future decisions if that’s what ur getting at. college admissions r so random and a lottery so don’t sweat it

[mighty badge]

uchicago a bunch of bums

[lilac bridge]

unich the true villain actually .... getting your hopes up for WHAT

[tame grove]

no the issue is

[safe wagon]

Why tf is there slow mode

[tame grove]

90% of my class sending an app there

[mental rivet]

this is still making me smile thanks 🙂

[safe wagon]

TURN IT OFF THRN OFF SLOW MODE

[tame grove]

so like, how many can they accept?

[lilac bridge]

bc decisions came out a while ago & ppl are still checking

[safe wagon]

they should at least make it 5 instead of 10 secs

[marsh harbor]

bro why'd my entire friend group get waitlisted 💀

[lilac bridge]

i believe in you you'll be one of the acceptances

[jagged ocean]

Where are all my uchi babes

[tame grove]

thanks natalie but i rly dont 😭

[lilac bridge]

omg lucy i haven't seen you in forever

[loud whale]

No one in my school has been accepted from 2010💀

[lilac bridge]

only one person in this server got in 💀 as far as we know

[safe wagon]

Natalie is gonna go to UPenn

[lilac bridge]

literally pray for me

[jagged ocean]

Hi, Nat! How are college apps going

[safe wagon]

We don’t even know if that person was capping tho tbh

[lilac bridge]

waiting on rd to come back and praying it goes well

road to upenn please 🙏

[jagged ocean]

To where?

[austere stag]

that person was me. i didn’t get in i got waitlisted my friend got accepted

[torpid sequoia]

congrats to your friend!!

[austere stag]

and i’m not capping i can show the letter he sent it to me

[tight nimbus]

i didnt even get an email 😭 i’ll go check i guess

[lilac bridge]

none of my rd came back yet but my top choices are barnard upenn & dartmouth

[lilac bridge]

nah there was someone else

[austere stag]

thanks man he got in for RD math there. this kid is considering UCSC over it

[lilac bridge]

asides from ur friend

[torpid sequoia]

I’m at school so I’m too scared to open rn I’ll wait until I get home😪

[safe wagon]

I’m not talking ab ppls friends I’m talking ab someone actually in this thread saying they got in

[safe wagon]

This person

[daring steeple]

✨ of course, my gut never lies

[loud whale]

bro gave no prrof

[royal musk]

How much do they accept off the waitlist

[jagged ocean]

open rn fam

[safe wagon]

Yeah that’s why we dk if they’re capping

[high cairn]

uchicago waitlist c’of 2027

[sterile magnet]

Most likely capping lol

[quasi ermine]

do u know where to check this on naviance? i only see scattergrams lol

[woven narwhal]

So far 26 waitlists, 15 rejections, no acceptances (for a2c responders)

[high cairn]

guess they filled up in eds 💀

[hard flame]

pretty good hbu

[austere stag]

average UC Hicago RD

it’s why they are worst UC campus by far dude

[high cairn]

waitlist chances r low right

[rose bloom]

Rejected YAYYY

[high cairn]

if like 75% got waitlist 😭

[rose bloom]

not upset ngl

[high cairn]

w no loci

[tight nimbus]

oh fun i got rejected

[woven narwhal]

pretty good! Abt to go on spring break

[tight nimbus]

moral of the story dont apply RD

[austere stag]

literally

[high cairn]

anybody here do questbridge rd?

[wide bramble]

I know one person that got in but that’s it 😭

[gentle maple]

Yikers

[frail cedar]

1 guy got in

[sterile magnet]

no

[sharp pulsar]

umich rd isnt that hard

i think if u wrote a good loci and sent it early you have a good shot

[cosmic solar]

meeeee, and I got rejected:')

[high thistle]

I got waitlisted. Is there any chance or?

[pastel dawn]

It’s not looking too good. The majority of rd applicants got waitlisted

[silk flare]

I think there is some

Ive heard its like 5-10% from WL in the past (?)

[spice garden]

that seems really high tbh

[high thistle]

Does anyone know how many applicants they accept off the waitlist?

[tame grove]

yeah but with a lower sat submission and not the most urgent loci, it aint happening

[sharp pulsar]

if u wanted umich why didnt u submit loci sooner then

[tame grove]

was busy, forgot about it for some time & struggled drafting it

at this point im accepting going to my least favorite safety

[celest path]

What percent did they waitlist

[sterile magnet]

Discord server 63%

[celest path]

No

Like

Actual people

😭

Of the whole pool

[craggy night]

I don't think we have that data atm

[mild rose]

they wont release

[craggy night]

there should be, like, mandatory reporting for this kind of stuff

[mild rose]

theyre obscure with their numbers

[round trail]

wooo add me to that rejection pile

[craggy night]

If a college wants non-profit tax status and such the govt. should make them report admission rates and such

[sterile magnet]

they will never release that information because it's not beneficial to applicant numbers

2021-2022 CDS it's left blank

they want people to think RD is a fair game lol

[craggy night]

grrrr

Anyone else indicate they wanted consideration for c/o 2028 on the waitlist spot acceptance form?

[real condor]

yeah

does anyone know the actual waitlist %

[scenic zodiac]

Welcome to the fam! Can’t wait to meet you

[sterile magnet]

No

[high cairn]

://

[celest path]

Its likely higher odds of getting into that than waitlist acceptance

I said yes to both

[craggy night]

same

tho in the small text they said it doesn't affect your odds

[celest path]

I mean

Putting yes to both doesnt affect ur co27 odds

But in general the co28 is more likely to happen than a co27

Since they dont need to report co28 acceptances in their acceptance rate

[gray geyser]

i was napping but i woke up and i am rejected 🕺💃🕺💃

[spice garden]

sending love ur way <3 their loss tbh

[gray geyser]

tbh it brings me comfort to know i only didn’t withdraw my application because my philosophy is that if i wasted my time writing those essays, i wanna waste the AO’s time reading them again

and by god did i waste five minutes of that man’s time god bless

[maiden jolt]

You have to see it through, no point of withdrawing if you put the effort in

[spice garden]

CONGRATS!!!!

[torpid sequoia]

CONGRATSSS

[round trail]

the first and only uchic rd w

[torpid sequoia]

I got waitlisted

[round trail]

congrats dude

[tight nimbus]

CONGRATS!!!!

[foggy lintel]

im still waiting on mi decision

transfer moment

[long thistle]

waitlisted! im so happy bc i thought i was going to be straight rejected

congrats to everyone who was accepted im so happy for you

[celest path]

Hinestly i was so confused reading the waitlisted msg

Cuz i didnt wanna read from the start

So i wouldnt have to see like

We regret to inform i

U

So all i was seeing was like

We had a record number of applicants

And couldnt take u

Then i read the start and there was no regret

And then i wasrlly fucking confused

[long thistle]

lmao

[vast iris]

whats the purpose of submitting it sooner? it's not due until March 17.

[vast iris]

whats the purpose of submitting loci sooner? it's not due until March 17.

[rose falcon]

realistically speaking if u did the deadline theyd have maybe week to review it

and its a loci how much interest u got if u waiting that long

[sharp pulsar]

They make decisions well before march 17 and it shows interest. If you get your file reviewed with no loci you could just get rejected due to the lack of effort shown

[long thistle]

oh ig im getting tejected from there

[rose falcon]

with the amount they deferred (rumored) bc of not being able to finish id imagine a late loci may fuck u over

cuz its us + rd kids

[vast iris]

not really, if you submit way early like in february, it'd be a general loci. but if you're submitting it in mid-march (when half the college results are already out), that shows you are seriously interested in umich.

many of umich deferrals are to protect their yield rate, and chances of protecting their yield rate goes high if you submit loci as late as possible

[rose falcon]

r u talking bout an update letter or the reequired for consideration

[rose falcon]

im interested in how u came to this conclusion

[vast iris]

loci: letter of continued interest

it says online everywhere that michigan defers bulk of california applicants to protect their yield rate, because they know californian's will likely pick UCs above umich

[rose falcon]

right

im just wondering how later=more interest

[quiet kraken]

why would umich yield protect 💀

[vast iris]

here's the logic: if you submit loci in early february, you are not helping them with their yield rate protection. however when you submit loci in late march when many of UCs are already out, you are conveying to umich that you still want to come to umich, hence helping them with their yield rate

[daring steeple]

I'm not even gonna mf lie to you all

I didn't even know it was possible to be EA deferred and waitlisted☠

Got me waiting the whole app cycle for a firm decision

[trim karma]

u were just that good

[daring steeple]

Should've accepted me atp, now I'm wondering why I took the time out my precious summer to attend their little summer scholarship program and get a 100 in their class

Welp, might have my first firm reject tomorrow with caltech☠ it was a nice run

[long thistle]

lol actually?

[wide shuttle]

i did not indeed get in

how does waitlist work? do you write a loci? i have additional info to provide but idk if they want a loci or anything bc they did say if we had additional info to provide we should put it in our portal

[daring steeple]

Idek what to do w that

I've already written a LOCI

[wide shuttle]

ive yet to write a loci (i need to stop procrastinating umich...)

[limber gazelle]

what does this mean?

[wide shuttle]

so if you want to withdraw from waitlist you wont be considered for co2028 gap year

[limber gazelle]

Ok, so released just means that you quit from waitlist

[wide shuttle]

yep i think so

[austere canyon]

Does anyone know around what percent of applicants got waitlisted and how many get off the waitlist

[daring steeple]

Both are unknown

Not even gonna try guesstimate because A2C is very competitive in general, might not apply to the rest of the pool

[vast iris]

chicago doesn't publish those stats

[slate flume]

Fuck UChicago I got my offer @ #1050953827186114581 anyways :D

exactly

[limber gazelle]

11% is what i saw online

[mighty badge]

how many got in percentage wise

[rose falcon]

0.000001

[solar pike]

real

(the sad part is that this number might actually be real)

[woven narwhal]

The waitlist is almost by definition variable year to year, but from speculation online the regular decision acceptance rate is ~6.5%, approximately 15% get waitlisted, and approximately ~4-10% of the waitlist get off the waitlist and are offered a spot.

[limber gazelle]

I thought overall is 6.5% from online

Which is outdated now, the 11% was from 19-20

[woven narwhal]

For the last admissions cycle, the acceptance rate was 5.4%
https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/class-2026-profile

[loud whale]

It should be immeadetely above the scattergrams

[quasi ermine]

thanks

[loud whale]

np! surprised you missed it ( your school naviance could be acting weird)

[spice garden]

overall its gonna be <4% this year, dean nondorf said at an admitted students event (apparently)

[versed salmon]

Time to open

Did anyone get in??

[lilac bridge]

like 1 person 😭

[versed salmon]

Yikes

I haven't opened mine yet so we'll see

[lilac bridge]

good luck dnx 🫡

[daring steeple]

My friend got in
She don't even wanna go fr☠

[versed salmon]

No bueno

This year’s applicant pool was one of the strongest in the University’s history.

should've done better in HS smh lmao

[lilac bridge]

im ...

[versed salmon]

Not a good way to start my morning, but whatever

at least i got notified that UBuffalo finaid is on its way!

[daring steeple]

Fr, she don't even know what she did fr, that spot could've been me😭😭

They accept at least 1 a year from our school

[lilac bridge]

im sorry dnx :(((

[lilac bridge]

hoping you get a fat package

[versed salmon]

amen

[versed salmon]

Chicago is too far anyways 😆

[lilac bridge]

it's cold af anyways you dodged a major bullet

[versed salmon]

Colder than NYC?

[lilac bridge]

uhhh it's like consistent 20s-40s farenheit for 5 months straight, at night you can go all the way down to single digits, and in dec/jan it'll be single digits & negative degrees w the wind chill

chicago aint the windy city for no reason

[versed salmon]

Omg i even forgot to say:
it's really annoying that the link in the email directly links to the decision cause i couldn't even get to pray before opening it smh

Welp, time to leave this thread ig

[lilac bridge]

bye dnx

good luck on the rest of your decisions!!

[safe wagon]

What were her stats and stuff

[daring steeple]

all ik is that she's ranked #1 and has a gpa of like 3.9UW/4.85W, she also went TO

i'm #3 with 3.95UW/4.77W

[royal ocean]

What's atp meaning

[daring steeple]

at this/that point

[broken mason]

Did not see much good news here

L Uchicago

[spice garden]

i didnt expect it to be that bad 😭

[broken mason]

I expected about as much but 🤷‍♂️ was hoping for these guys

[silk flare]

I mean RD is just a bloodbath

[woeful marsh]

To all accepted with Q's, dms are open. Current Soph that is fairly well versed in everything related to the uni

[vestal stratus]

I got waitlisted

[elfin stag]

Dammit

Rejection hits hard

[gentle maple]

yes just write LOCI if you want

if youre really passionate

[clear sluice]

ayyy gang

u got rejected with those oly medals right
same here brother ❤️

they just yield protected us 😎 || /s ||

[elfin stag]

Do they admit international student in RD round?

[clear sluice]

yea an indian ik got a likely + fin aid in RD

[elfin stag]

Hmm

[silk flare]

Sure but

dont feel too bad, UChicago RD for intls is like giga rng shitfestival

[restive pike]

who?

also, they waitlisted intls who applied without aid

for profit

[clear sluice]

a guy on intltousa

[vestal stratus]

I’m so sorry to hear that

Uchicago missing out frfr

[tribal hull]

is there anything we can do to get accepted from the waitlist???

[tender pasture]

does any1 know acceptance rate of getting in from wait list

[royal musk]

I’m not sure ngl

Hopefully decent since I got on the waitlist

[mental rivet]

My guess would be that less than a dozen people make it off each year - it's equated to a rejection for all I know.

[open ledge]

queen me too

[royal musk]

Doubtful they definitely take more than a dozen

They probbaly take somewhere between 5 and 15% of waitlisted applicants just I’m not entirely sure what the numbers are since each year is diff

[open ledge]

the number they take is still super low

so i’m not like super confident but it’s like waitlist is like a soft no vs an absolute

[royal musk]

yeah def

Not even a soft no really you still have a chance

[celest path]

Some schiols overenroll and take none off the waitlist

Bu i dont think uhci is one of those

[open ledge]

true but i thought the over enroll only really happened at bigger schools

[royal musk]

Just show them u are still interested in going and update them w ur new awards and how things are going

[celest path]

The way my counselor (former ao) put it was they waitlist hordes of ppl bc when someone withdraws or denies admission, they need to fill that exact hole

[royal musk]

other than that it’s out of ur hands just accept ur waitlist spot and hopefully u get in 😭

[celest path]

Like male in humanities

Cuz they expected a male in humanities theyre going to scour the waitlist for so@eone who matches the profile theyre looking for

[long thistle]

oh. asian in stem btw🤡

[royal musk]

yeah, they have a set amount of people they can accept and a set amount of people they need to enroll so they fill it as much as possible because after all they still need to make money etc

[celest path]

Yeah but i meant more so its out of ur hands cuz they know ur a solid candidate and they know ur projected major and ur demographics

Theyll choose based on that

Not how good u r

College is a business

😔

[royal musk]

yep p sure UChicago doesn’t do ranked waitlists

so atp it’s just by chance of others accepting/denying

[celest path]

You can attempt to raise odds like im grateful my hs is quirky and lets us basically ed3 to a waitlist

But it rlly is out of ur hands

Raise odds as in send updates and loci

[royal musk]

yep I’m sure the acceptance rate of students on the waitlist with LOCIs and updates sent is much higher than those without

[celest path]

I need to send an update form but idk what id update with

💀

I havent done anything

If i get rejected from all other schools i like more ill pribs take advantage of our ed3 system and use it on uchi

🙏

[royal musk]

u got it just send it over with an update of how ur classes are going what u have accomplished in clubs etc

[long thistle]

how early do i send

asap? actually i might send after a debate tourney next week

[royal musk]

ye delay it a little if u have competitions coming up

since u can potentially get award

[celest path]

We dont do clubs

💀

[royal musk]

bro wha😭😭

[celest path]

Ig i can comment on clssses

[royal musk]

So u got no extra curriculars

umm I’m not sure rhen tbh I’ll try to think a bit for ya

[long thistle]

how does getting waitlisted work? what does the loci do?

[sharp pulsar]

Omg me 🥰

They just waitlisted me so they can give me the good news later‼️‼️

[celest path]

Well fencing season j ended lmao

I alrdy updated them on a recent course addition i did in feb

And i included my internship plans for may

[royal musk]

LOCI shows them you still value them and are interested meaning if they take you off the waitlist u will probably accept

[royal musk]

N did u update them for that

[celest path]

Yeah for waitlist, loci is a lot about showing the school u rlly want to attend

[sharp pulsar]

It’s annoying tho cause were expected to act like a school is #1 choice without knowing the finaid package

[celest path]

Im probs gonna j toss in how we medaled at the tournament

[royal musk]

Not necessarily, just because u accept ur waitlist spot doesn’t mean u haaave to go

[celest path]

Valid tbh

But my counselor also mentioned that aos know how to read the difference in subliminal msging they read hundredds of locis

Theyll know if ur language intends to mean ull 100% admit if accepted

[sharp pulsar]

It’s ok uchicago was just the warmup

[celest path]

Or if its generalized i rlly like this school

[sharp pulsar]

Colleges are just feeling a bit shy it’s fine 🥰🥰 I know mit got my back

[celest path]

Thats why my school does ed3 to boost our odds

[sharp pulsar]

What💀I have never heard of that

[celest path]

Its like

Not a thing most hses do

I think

[royal musk]

bro my school has only sent 2 people to ivys

[long thistle]

idk if my school has sent any

[royal musk]

One like 30 years ago and one like 4 years ago

[celest path]

But we sign a legal document saying we’d attend if accepted

And our counselor calls the admissions office

Saying we signed smth

[sharp pulsar]

💀

[royal musk]

👍 ED is pretty strict

[sharp pulsar]

Ed3 is so funny to me like how many rounds can it be LMFAOO

[celest path]

I j call it that

[sharp pulsar]

Ed4 😧

[celest path]

Cuz its quite literally ed3

[royal musk]

brb gonna go apply ed7

[celest path]

But then again our counselors dont let us remain on waitlists after may

[royal musk]

my counselors aren’t that involved they just upload the stuff they gotta do and then the rest is up to us

[celest path]

We’re told to withdraw so we can spend time making ourselves happier abt the acceptances we do have

[sharp pulsar]

Your counselors sound so overbearing id wanna be left tf alone 💀

[celest path]

Mines p chill

The woman is overbearing af

The things they do genuienely help and have solid reasoning

So idm

Like withdrawing ur safeties if u get accepted toa. Target

Makes sense

[spice garden]

where are people getting the 15% statistic about the waitlist?

[royal musk]

Google

dk if it’s accurate though since it’s not@directly from them

[heavy surge]

That’s just depressing

15%?

[slate flume]

there is an ED3???

(for some schools)

[heavy surge]

Nah it’s just an ongoing joke we have. Because UChi loves ppl who do ED 1 or ED 2

[slate flume]

lol, imagine an ED3 for waitlist tho lol

[heavy surge]

Would we do it tho?

[slate flume]

only if I didn't get anywhere better

[celest path]

No my school j like

Has a legal doc for us to sign

To commit to a waitlisted school

Guaranteed attendance

And then they call the admissions of the uni and notify them

And whatever

[slate flume]

huh
interestingg
also pls remove slowmode

[heavy surge]

I think its possible to be waitlisted from UChicago RD and get into an Ivy

Unless UChicago just waitlisted everyone, like WOTS claims

[slate flume]

yeah but I mean if UChicago is higher than any school you got admitted to. And then your waitlist options are minimal - best to increase your chances than hope out of an Ivy waitlist. ykwim?

[heavy surge]

oh no i agree

I'm gonna grind this LOCI out sometime this week

And this video portfolio too

[full pagoda]

IMO being waitlisted RD probably means something (at least i'm holding hope for my other colleges 😭 )

i had a weaker app in terms of ecs compared to other people and yet i got wl'd so i hope it means my essay was good or smth

[celest path]

slow mode off apologiies

[full pagoda]

or maybe it's the luck of the draw

[celest path]

yeah our counselors obv take the "ed3" thing srsly so im gonna wait until after ivy day and april 1 decisions to officiate anything

i also wouldnt miind deferred acceptance to any top school

😭

like girl id gladly take a gap year

[foggy lintel]

ed3???

[celest path]

my hs gives us a form to sign if we want to commit to a waitlisted school

and when we email that school with updates, we use definitive language saying we'd 100% go if accepted

and then our counselors call the uni

doesnt guarantee anything but it adds hope lmao

[foggy lintel]

oh damn

that’s cool

[slate flume]

kool

[slate flume]

ty

[mental rivet]

Is there anything we need to do for the waitlist?

Like LOCI or video?

[full pagoda]

i think a loci is very recommended

[daring steeple]

I cant do another loci ☠☠

[mental rivet]

damnit

[broken mason]

These fellas are working on the damn fourth round of UChicago decisions

Man why is the school like this

They’ll keep you on your toes until they can’t anymore

[mental rivet]

Do I even write the LOCI? 😆

[mental rivet]

It's like the person who cheats on you but just says they were "keeping their options open"

[mental rivet]

Any guidelines for it?

[celest path]

I mean in general remind uchi that theyre high on ur list if it is
Include why uchi and any and all updates

My counselor told me to send multiple locis

💀

[mental rivet]

dayum

[mental rivet]

Okay so I wrote my LOCI, do I email it to my state's AO?

[wheat rampart]

if u didn’t do the video originally is it worth doing now?

[mental rivet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/frlcwa/uchicago_video_profile_for_waitlist/

The question is

What if I'm too damn lazy to do the video

[celest path]

Yea

I did my video alrdy

The thing is

The video is recommended

And therefore “optiona”

With the heavy quotes

[mental rivet]

Yeah but they do say it won't go against you

Will it look worse to submit it now?

[celest path]

Well they have to say that

[mental rivet]

I really don't have anything to add, that's the issue

[celest path]

Not rlly itll show u care

[mental rivet]

All I would do is film myself solving a Rubik's cube

And yapping a little

[celest path]

Have u seen the loads of other vids

[mental rivet]

No

[lilac bridge]

i mean from my pov, doing the video shows that you care abt the school enough to do an optional thing

[celest path]

^

Its recommended

Not optional

Well

[lilac bridge]

and if you're looking to (hopefully) increase the chances of getting off the waitlist, it's a great thing to do

[celest path]

Inherently optional

But recommended

[mental rivet]

Oh okay

[celest path]

My regions ao heavily emphasized the optional part

Like

[mental rivet]

Looks like I'm filming tomorrow

[celest path]

How its recommended

And they j made it rec this year

[mental rivet]

I guess I just solve a Rubik's cube and then talk

[celest path]

Yeah she said anything fine, even just talking abt ur favorite spot to read

Or favorite places in ur home

[mental rivet]

Or maybe a book I'm reading?

[celest path]

Yea

[mental rivet]

Oo okay

[celest path]

Thatd work

[mental rivet]

Okay should be fine

[celest path]

Mine was a bit overkill but its cuz i spent a while on it and i had a concept i rlly wanted tied in

[mental rivet]

Imagine...

What is it? 2 mins max?

[celest path]

2 min maximum but uchi has a flexible limit

Its fine to go over a bit

[mental rivet]

Oh okay

I'll brainstorm some ideas tomorrow, thanks!

[spice garden]

if anyone wants make to take a look at their video id be happy to offer some feedback

speaking, anecdotally of course, as someone who made a video

[full pagoda]

how did you even structure your video?

like how does it work

are you just talking about yourself or whatnot

[spice garden]

bruh i made mine in one day

dont think about structure

like just do what feels intuitive to you; you know yourself best

[full pagoda]

no no i mean like

what are you even supposed to talk ab

in the video

is it just whatever you like to do or something about yourself

[spice garden]

literally anything u want

[full pagoda]

ohhh

amazing

[spice garden]

either of these could work

[full pagoda]

then i'll just do a video ab me cooking LOL

[spice garden]

that sounds dope

[full pagoda]

you can still submit the video if you were waitlisted right

[spice garden]

that i have no idea about

[sterile magnet]

not sure if it is worth it, lol

dont need to put too much time

their RD is much more difficult for a reason lol

[spice garden]

^^

yeah if ur still waiting on more decisions i would worry about thsoe first

and then decide if you wnat to make the video or not based on how ur other decisions turn out

[full pagoda]

meh, i only have 2 more so i'm not too worried

[spice garden]

oh ok

then maybe email ur ao if u can still do the video? i genuinely have no idea

[celest path]

My video was like i had this concept and called doctors shaman then explained why i like medicine then explained two traits of shaman and how I’ve shown it in my ecs and general life even as a kid

[spiral vale]

for waitlisted ppl, where should we send the loci? to our regional ao’s email directly or upload it to our portal

[celest path]

apo

ao

[teal gulch]

Is it possible to get off the waitlist without submitting a LOCI?

[full pagoda]

probably but it's probably much better to submit one because it shows your continued interest

they're more likely to offer a spot to people who actually are interested in going

versus people who... do not

[teal gulch]

Alright, thanks. Could I wait a few weeks to send it as I will be getting the results back from a big competition then? Or, is this something that normally should be send soon after getting waitlisted?

[limber gazelle]

When should I send the loci, I’m in Chicago rn visiting campus, before this Friday, perhaps?

Would it be good if I submit an additional lor along with the loci 👀

[daring steeple]

probably not

the loci would be good enough

[celest path]

You can send multiple

Lol

[signal marten]

You should give it to them in person

that would be so cool

They’d be like woah this person flew here to give this to us

(I have no clue what I’m taking about)

[spice garden]

they recommend on the website to submit a loci if waitlisted ^^

[limber gazelle]

😳

[full pagoda]

A2C should I kiss my regional AO?

[signal marten]

Yes

[limber gazelle]

😚

[onyx sedge]

Only if they consent

Not sure if it will increase your chance of acceptance though

[full pagoda]

A2C me and my regional ao are in love..

[onyx sedge]

OH-

I'm concerned, but okay

Good luck

[woven narwhal]

Feel free to wait a bit for other decisions before you send it in

[hexed loom]

does anyone know the stats for rd admissions

how many people were waitlisted?

[tender pasture]

99%

[daring steeple]

An unknown amount

[woven narwhal]

In general the stats will come out after the cycle is complete

[mental rivet]

15% ish?

That's what I've heard, who knows if that's accurate though.

If not, I do apologize.

[woven narwhal]

That's kinda what it's been previously, but we really have no idea what it is this year

[mental rivet]

I imagine it hasn't changed too radically. Maybe it went up a little but that can't be by more than 5-10%, right?

[woven narwhal]

Waitlist rates are so different from admit rates that it's hard to know, like look at MIT's waitlist rate over time, and many schools are admitting less and less from waitlist, but it could change radically

[mental rivet]

Oh huh, the more you know. Thanks for the info!

🙂

I just hope it's at least sorta low so I can feel accomplished for making it on the waitlist 😆

[woven narwhal]

Totally hear you, I'm also waitlisted! I'm hoping that the waitlist admit rate is high this year so I get in 🫶

[mental rivet]

Yeah facts

Hey UChicago, if you need a white dude who's going into math but also likes the humanties, I'm your guy.

I'll give all of the money I make to you as an alumni: $20k/year as a postdoc.

[limber gazelle]

UChicago 🗿

[trim karma]

woah

[limber gazelle]

They got big buildings, the campus is very big

Admissions office ✝️

[azure arrow]

how many people got put on waitlist

for uchi??

[celest path]

Unknown

[celest path]

Does uchi require updates by a certain date

Or provide a day when wl will be closed

Or provide a day theyll notify wl students by

[austere stag]

it’s on the higher end

[marble wind]

so pretty

[limber gazelle]

Ikr

The campus is so big and has everything

Apparently students here could get free city transportation 🗿🗿🗿

💰

[marble wind]

im so excited to visit, ive never been to chicago

[foggy lintel]

if i get accepted i'll visit too

looks awesome

[broken mason]

apparently we get 20 lyft passes per semester

or some figure like that

well we dont hae semesters

but i doubt it would be that much per quarter...?

[wide shuttle]

i think

if you get accepted

you're probably doing more than visiting

[foggy lintel]

[wide shuttle]

(that is, unless you get into a higher option, for which gl!)

[foggy lintel]

yeah but i mean

i like all of my reaches

northwestern cornell rice chicago duke brown

IF i get into more than 1

i'll worry about this problem

lmfao

[wide shuttle]

heh

gotta believe tho!

waiting is so brutal though

[foggy lintel]

low expectations means i won't get sad when i get rejected

[foggy lintel]

esp since i'm a transfer

so this is the 2nd time

[wide shuttle]

yep

i feel u man

[foggy lintel]

1st time taught me to keep expectations low

[wide shuttle]

but were both gonna power through

!!!

[foggy lintel]

yessir

worst case i go umich

which is still amazing

[wide shuttle]

whoa

congrats on umich!

[foggy lintel]

tyty

[wide shuttle]

i got deferred and then i procrastinated hard, so i haven't written my loci yet (the deadline is this friday, but i definitely shouldve done it earlier and they may have read my app by now)

so i doubt im getting into umich at this point

on the bright side tho, me procrastinating means i have a few extra updates in my loci that might help but they dont really pertain to my major much 😔

[foggy lintel]

oof, get it done brother!

[azure arrow]

oh

rip okk

not special 😔

[tender pasture]

when shld we send loci

[daring steeple]

That's my bsff

Miss her ngl😭😭

[heavy surge]

Wait are we supposed to send it to someone? I thought were just supposed to upload it to the portal

[mental rivet]

That works too, I realized after I emailed lol

[heavy surge]

Aight thanks 🙏 just making sure lol

[vast iris]

I don't see any LOCI in Chicago portal

[high cairn]

it’s in the upload tab

[vast iris]

Ok

[teal gulch]

I just realized I forgot to submit self-reported SAT scores to UChicago on my application. Will they still consider it if I submit them now(I was waitlisted)?

[teal gulch]

1580(800 math)

[high cairn]

BROOO😦

yes send that shit rn

[heavy surge]

Did u report it on common app?

[teal gulch]

Yes, but I’m not sure that they see that?

[peak patio]

gl!

u shd foshoo submit

[teal gulch]

Yeah, I did, thanks.

[peak patio]

glgl

[heavy surge]

I think they do but probably submit it anyway

Better to be safe than sorry

[spice garden]

hey fellow ‘27 :)

[blazing peak]

https://youtu.be/u3xkbq6azS4

Ngl I think it’s fitting that it’s UChicago that says once you grow plants somewhere you colonized it

[peak patio]

hihi

[delicate bone]

twolf asks: which one?

1⃣: grinnell
2⃣: reed

[full pagoda]

do you think it's too late to send a LOVI

LOCI*

i put it off bc i was too busy

[daring steeple]

it's not

[sterile magnet]

why would it be too late

[merry portal]

huh

shouldnt there be plenty of time for an LOCI

but p sure you should submit asap cause the waitlist is probably always being updated

[celest path]

Nah

Mycounselor (former ao) says its fine to wait

And waiting if anything looks better

Shows that you took the time to consider your other decisions;

My hs’s counselors advise us to wait until mid April unless the uni has specific time constraints

[hexed loom]

oh yeah this is true

maybe it’s better to wait

[limber gazelle]

I j visited campus so it would take me like a few days to write it and send lol

[celest path]

I desire to knowwaitlist stats

[azure arrow]

i’m waiting till my other decisions r out

[austere stag]

waitlist

will ot

mean

anything

for uchicago

sorry guys no one gets in waitlist

[azure arrow]

isn’t it 15%

[austere stag]

idt so

[limber gazelle]

I know people who got in waitlist i dont know exact % but its more common than a lot of other top 10 Unis

[austere stag]

oh

yay hopefully then

[limber gazelle]

cope

I went to UChicago a few days ago and talked with regional AO, she said that waitlist decisions will be out some time in april before May 1

[austere stag]

yay

[celest path]

🙏 uchi waitlist

[heavy surge]

Sameeeee

[austere stag]

same lol

[merry portal]

Same

[mental rivet]

Before May 1? Huh.

[heavy surge]

Brothers on the UChi Waitlist, I wish all of us luck

And I look forward to seeing you in Chicago next year

[silk flare]

Hello

I am on the waitlist too

I should probably withdraw

because I dont even want to go anymore

[celest path]

did yall check off both options

for continued waitlist + deferred admission to '28

[silk flare]

I did

[mental rivet]

I did, maybe they'll send me to c/o '28 because I'm a junior lol

I'll just twiddle my thumbs for a year, that's fine

[merry portal]

Nah I only did the waitlist one I don’t think I’m willing to take a gap year

Maybe I should’ve tho

[mental rivet]

Yeah I'm hesitant but if I could study abroad for a year I'd totally do it 👀

[silk flare]

I would afk uselessly for a year

[mental rivet]

If I got good aid I could spend the rest of my college fund on two semesters of university in Paris with a homestay and that would be sooo cool

[merry portal]

Exactly I’d waste hella time and I kinda want to get into the workforce asap

[mental rivet]

Fair

[celest path]

id hate needing to stay living out of my home

but id probably take a one year paramedics course

would be fun

or a year long intensive internship

or both

[mental rivet]

A year to recover from high school and ready yourself for college

You could get better study habits, learn to focus, find some passions, etc.

[full pagoda]

agree

i'd rather just go to another college than gap year

[hexed loom]

i’m waitlisted at the moment, but if you get into the gap year option, can you go to a school somewhere else and transfer for the next 3 years to uchicago?

[merry portal]

exactly

[full pagoda]

it's not worth delaying your college education for a year just to go to a big name college

[celest path]

I dont think so

Like u could have one yr but youd need a special case in order to transfer credits

[hexed loom]

😔

[rancid dew]

is this a guaranteed admission to the '28?

[celest path]

Yea

It was offered to all waitlists j think

[daring steeple]

Honestly

If they select me for that

I'm just gonna take that as an acceptance and move on☠

[mental rivet]

“Sweet, I can brag about that, but they got me fucked up if they think I’m going to accept it.”

[daring steeple]

Fr though

They should've taken me RD !

Or EA

It's been 2 rounds and I'm still waiting ☠

[vestal stratus]

fellow waitlisted people are you guys gonna submit a LOCI

[pastel dawn]

I think several people here are planning on it!!!!

[vestal stratus]

and what exaclty is that 2028 deferred thing

[vestal stratus]

i see! thank you

[vestal stratus]

i thought they simply automaticaly add you to the applicant pool

[pastel dawn]

Hmmm I’m not sure I’ve never heard of that

I’d imagine it’d just adding you to the applicant pool like you said

[vestal stratus]

i see i see ty

[merry portal]

yea in probably a few weeks

[daring steeple]

Mid April probs

I'll have all my decisions back by then so I can evaluate

[daring steeple]

One of my friends did it last year

They basically say you can take a gap year and attend next year

Like you're admitted

[celest path]

Yeah but mid april

[celest path]

Its acceptance with a necessary gap year

They accept u into the class of 2028

[vestal stratus]

what wha

NO wayy

but then everone one the waitlist would opt for that

[celest path]

Its not guaranteed

Its just another option

Like instead of notifying u u got accepted off the waitlist into ‘27

[vestal stratus]

oh alright yeah that makes a lot more sense

[celest path]

You get told youre now ‘28

Yeah

I opted for both

[vestal stratus]

same

im just honoured uchicago liked me enough to waitlist me tbj

[celest path]

Lmao valid

I hope i get either option tho id be satisfied

[vestal stratus]

i will always be weak to uchicagos praises

[vestal stratus]

same here i dont mind taking a gap year at all maybe ill get a pre college glowup

[celest path]

Fr

Also more time to build that bank balance

🤩

[vestal stratus]

mmm thats certianly true

[marble wind]

if only uchicago wasn’t in chicago.. then i’d like it even more 😭

so would my parents..

[celest path]

If only uchicago called itself ivy my mother would like it more

She shames uchicago for being easy to get into

.

Like

[marble wind]

bruh

[celest path]

Shes like “ik people with bad gpa that have gone there”

[marble wind]

thats a little silly

[celest path]

Girl so what

😭

Still t5

[vestal stratus]

no way 😭

[celest path]

Like ‘grats to them

But its still top tier

[marble wind]

im 100% convinced i used up all my college decision luck with uchicago

[celest path]

I have had no luck hinestly

So im praying it carries

[marble wind]

youll get some

[celest path]

Cuz like any school remaining

[marble wind]

i believe in you

[celest path]

Id be fine with

[marble wind]

the luck will come through

[celest path]

🙏

[marble wind]

along with ur abilities

[celest path]

I think case yielded me

But that feelsnlike coping

LOL

[marble wind]

my parents have told me if i get in to any other top schools i aint going to uchicago since they hate that city so much

[celest path]

Tbf its cold

And dangerous

[marble wind]

yeah thats what they hate about it

mostly the dangerous part since i like the cold

[merry portal]

Most top schools are cold

anyways

[marble wind]

yeah there’s like 4 or 5 in the top 20 that aren’t freezing

[celest path]

Stanny

Oh no stanny get s ocld

💀 geography moment

[marble wind]

yeah stanford, vanderford, caltechford, riceford come to mind as “not freezing”

[mental rivet]

Waitlist decisions come out before May 1 apparently

[celest path]

Still mid or early april

Just until i meet with my counselor abt ed3 n stuff

And get all ym decisions back

[pastel dawn]

Ohhhhh nice

[granite vine]

Where do we submit the loci?

[celest path]

Your regional ao via email

[silk flare]

no gl all

[granite vine]

should I still write a LOCI if I'm most likely not going to go to the school?

[celest path]

Only write a loci if you have continued interest

Lmao

[wide shuttle]

i'm doing it

but like most ppl here, after i get all my decisions back and re-evaluating

will also make me able to say its my top choice and id 100% commit if i get in off waitlist

[gentle maple]

UCHI!!!

[wide shuttle]

since its pretty high on my list and i would only not choose it over brown princeton columbia

all of which are probably not gonna happen for me

also definitely gonna submit a loci bc i have a ton of new info to update on (extracurricular stuff and competition stuff)

[celest path]

Am in the same exact situation w diff schools

[austere stag]

keep your hopes up

but guys for y’all that been WLd

be a bit realistic Uchi waitlists don’t normally have many spots

[daring steeple]

That's the same for like

Every waitlist in 2023

[celest path]

Lmfao

[limber gazelle]

For UChicago LOCI is it better to submit through portal or email regional AO

i think email regional AO is better idk

[celest path]

Yes

[limber gazelle]

^^

[long thistle]

How much of a priority should my LOCI be? I've been nonstop busy and will be for the next couple of days, should i do it asap?

[merry portal]

it should be a priority yes, but you have plenty of time

u should be fine doing it in about 2 weeks ish idk

[long thistle]

Gotcha, thanks for the response!

[long sinew]

Does anyone know if uchicago is really that bad/mediocre for CS like a lot of people say

I'm already committed but I'm interested in what other people think

[daring steeple]

Perhaps you'll find out !

[long sinew]

That too

But i mean

what other people or maybe current students think

[daring steeple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/uchicago/comments/wz0mnv/honest_review_of_cs_program_at_uchicago/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/uchicago/comments/2q460f/thoughts_on_uchicago_cs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/uchicago/comments/b2sslb/thoughts_and_review_on_cs_major/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[limber gazelle]

If we email our regional AO the loci do we j attach it as a pdf attachment and then send a short message along with it?

[celest path]

Advice varies on that front

[pseudo bronze]

i have a classmate who went to uchicago, this is a dm i got from him ab the school!

[pallid gale]

Is it fine to treat loci like all those creative writing prompts before? If I have a somewhat creative idea (ofc I understand that it still should contain some basic loci stuff like my achievements etc) should I use it?

[peak patio]

omg fate pfp

[vast iris]

no idea what the AO look for in LOCI. For wait list, from what i understand, they just look to maintain diversity that they had in their initial offers (e.g. if an asian female doesn't accept their EA/RD offer, they'll pull an asian female from waitlist, etc etc)

[hard sentinel]

is it still good to send a loci now?

[celest path]

Yep as well as desired focus/major

Whoever applied premed please withdraw

/j

[vast iris]

Exactly

[vast iris]

would anyone here pick UChicago CS above UIUC/GT/CMU/UCLA CS?

[foggy lintel]

never CMU or GT

but the other two possibly

[vast iris]

hmm means you'd pick UChicago CS above UIUC and UCLA CS but you'd pick CMU and GT CS above Chicago CS?

[hard sentinel]

very much depends what ur going for

if u want to do cs + econ or go for a masters degree in cs, i'd argue that uchicago becomes really appealing

[foggy lintel]

as in ik for sure id pick cmu and gt CS over chicago

but chicago vs ucla or UIUC id have to think

probably pick it over uiuc

[hard sentinel]

u got a whack tierlist lol

[foggy lintel]

it's just my personal preference lol