#Remove 24-hour cooldown when traveling from PVP to PVP server.

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pastel parcel
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I wouldn’t mind a 2 or 3 hour cooldown. Make people commit a bit so they just aren’t hitting a single collection point or just harassing someone

midnight tendon
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24 hours is literally insane

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Honesty don’t mind it at the start of the game but it’s horrible after like one week

wide hazel
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It would be great if the warning tooltip we get when traveling to a different county would tell us how long we'd have to wait before we're able to travel back

odd crater
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Yeah you will get no warning as it is right now and that would be great as well. But 24-hour cd is just way too much. As one of the great things about a game like this is that you can go anywhere you want, but this limits it a lot.

spiral nimbus
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U Want to hide in the locked area and go raid the unlocked area? 24 hours is the correct setting

midnight tendon
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It’s objectively bad for the game player interaction goes into the toilet 🚽

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Should be a multiplayer maybe if ur spam traveling too much but it’s just not good for games longevity

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Multiplier* for like time

mental junco
# pastel parcel I wouldn’t mind a 2 or 3 hour cooldown. Make people commit a bit so they just ar...

I agree 3 hours would be a decent time, it would at least take 1 hour to raid any serious targets anyway and possible another to get back to FOB for stashing and server exit.

With a 3 hour count, the attacked server has at least a chance to regroup and engage the raiders with potential time to take back things lost to raiders.
But with 24 hours as is. The likely scenario will be that raiders would sit up all night with no sleep or face a crushing retaliation at some obscure time when most of them are offline due to work next day.
This would not be in the interest of PvP and will not promote PvP in any possible way. In fact it will likely reduce PvP to weekend warriors or worse.

I fully agree with OP 24 hours is simply too much and has to be addressed before launch or it will have a huge impact on game sales, due to most of the community being hardcore pvp'ers who will loose interest very fast and simple jump to next pvp mmo. 😦

odd crater
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I actually want to be able to raid on all servers and not have a 24-hour cooldown before I can return to my home server.

odd crater
# spiral nimbus Live in a non-locked area

And what if I want to raid someone in a locked server as an EU player? I will have to wait 24-hours to go back. No EU will want to wait 24-hours before returning to their own map.

spiral nimbus
odd crater
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All it will do is it will keep everyone from traveling maps and there will be less interaction servers between them

fossil ginkgo
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3-6 hours cooldown max. You want players to raid cross server. But nobody is going to send 20 players to raid, and then be trapped on the server for 24 hours. Those 20 players assault a guild at full power, then the guild they assaulted gets to transfer for revenge and gets a 20 man advantage in their own attack? No way man. That's to OP

midnight tendon
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Yeah I think the devs are gonna change/revert a lot of bad things

delicate lynx
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hide in locked region and want like unlocked region you want too much

wintry axle
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Honestly, I say keep the timer, because then people cannot just transfer from pvp to pvp right away and 2 - 3 hour wait time is just too low.

pastel parcel
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why its a pvp server letting people transfer quicker lets more pvp happen, lets people fight over more collection points and help their allies with defense and attacking. if my allies are getting attacked one server over transfering over there to help is now a ridiculous committment

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and also then you cant even transfer back to defend your own base

delicate lynx
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Why you hide in locked regions. You scare raied from another regions and hide in locked regions and want CD times like unlocked regions. Weird

wintry axle
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No, just that I don't see the needs to remove cool downs? Raids pff I haven't lost one yet on my server.
(Towers are a wonderful thing for defense)
Another note, I just do not believe dropping a timer would make it any better, if its problematic, then time your transfers right, or accordingly. Strategy is a thing too instead of blowing up massive amounts of players jumping region to region likes monkeys on trees Shrug Just my own opinion and my point ^

pastel parcel
radiant scroll
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24hour cool down for items, not players, is my recommendation. You aren't supposed to just go from server to server clearing everyone out.

sonic haven
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it limits the smaller guilds to not raid on other servers so hard. and it gives bigger guilds more chances to raid. its a bad design

pastel parcel
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Yeah it is bad design. Means you can’t go help an ally attack or defend on another server as it leaves your main base wide open

surreal tinsel
radiant scroll
surreal tinsel
radiant scroll
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Ive seen guilds wipe 6 servers in a single day. Im ok with any change that prevents that

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They hit almost every base, wiping out anyone who wasnt in a max guild.

surreal tinsel
fossil ginkgo
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So you could raid 4 times per 24hrs by server transfer

delicate lynx
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24 is good for locked regions

odd crater
# delicate lynx 24 is good for locked regions

But why is the timer different from Locked and non-locked? Whats the idea with that? You will be able to raid some people and go back in 1 hour. But if that is what they are trying to prevent why even have 1 hour cooldowns in the first place? Shouldnt matter where you travel. Why should I be able to raid Russians in 1 hour and go back as an EU player, but not China?

spiral nimbus
delicate lynx
leaden cedar
odd crater
leaden cedar
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Region locked has been asked for a lot but will end up being terrible. People who wanna play on region locked servers shouldn't be able to bother people from other regions. Because people from other regions can't retaliate on your home server.
If you want to be able to be attacked by EU only you should only be able to attack EU too.

spiral nimbus
odd crater
# leaden cedar Region locked has been asked for a lot but will end up being terrible. People wh...

I agree. I am not a fan of region locking or splitting the playerbase in any way. And honestly my team and I are mostly playing the game to fight vs China as its just the most fun. But now we only have half the servers to travel to if we dont wanna get stuck for 24-hours. I would prefer to go back to the way it was before. But yeah maybe Leyan is right and it can become acceptable if that guild skill is maxed out. I dont remember how much you can level in that.

odd crater
spiral nimbus
odd crater
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Last time I could raid on at least 50% of the total servers and now its down to 25% if I dont want a 24 hour cooldown

spiral nimbus
odd crater
kindred cloud
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Would make more sense for the 24 hours to just be moving between pve and pvp or vise versa. Pvp to pvp is dumb to have a cd

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Being able to hide in pve and raid in pvp is the dumbest mechanic I've ever heard of

leaden cedar
slow basalt
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I agree - region lock seems to really be a bad idea. 24 hours is INSANE. Don't let the 15 people complaining about region lock ruin the game for everyone. They can go play private servers.

trail goblet
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Is thia not relating to locked servers? Where chinese could jump from their server directly to eu or na server...? Because then I prefer the 24h cooldown stays.

slow basalt
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Why you upvote your own comment

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china cant jump to region lock server. cooldown is for inside region only

pastel parcel
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Isn’t it one hour from china unlocked to na unlocked?

trail goblet
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But then they should write this suggestion more clearly. They should write pvp to pvp inside, like locked to locked, unlock to unlocked.

peak summit
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24hrs? Should be 3 days imo. You shouldn’t be able to go from server to server wiping bases while your base is tucked away safely.

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What’s to stop people from building on PVE where they’re perfectly safe and simply going to PVP servers to wipe every day. The whole moving from server to server shouldn’t even be a feature all it’s going to do is promote trolling.

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And if they are going to keep this feature than they should make it so in the log where it tells you who attacked you it also shows the server they came from if they did just transfer recently.

slow basalt
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There is already a log

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PVE - PVP is 24 hour timer.

slow basalt
split magnet
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They should change that from 24h to 18-20.

Lets sah you raid someone and go offline after the raid at midnight. The next day you like to play at 20:00.
But you are locked on that Server vor 4 more hours.
Which leads into a day where you can treally play as you have bo stations, base etc on that server

slow basalt
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Exactly the problem, this timer is making it so people can't play the game.

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If the people want protection, they should go to private servers with rules

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I went to locked server on the test, and didn't realize it was a 24 hour timer, and so I was unable to play the last day of the test

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so fun

split magnet
# slow basalt There is already a log

Pve and pvp Server transfer should be disabled. Even the cost tranfering items is doubled and you get less ressources on pve Server you can save a lot and nobody can get that from you. As pvp player you should not go to pve Servers

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For nolifersit makes no different but For people who like the game and like to play it nearly every day For some hours they need to think about a raid as they cant play next day as usual. So 20h would be better

peak summit
# slow basalt There is already a log

I know I’m saying they should add to it a way to see the server whoever raided you recently transferred from if they did come from another server.

slow basalt
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Well - you just need to scout other maps

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Generally - we end up knowing where other clans live

peak summit
slow basalt
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I don't think this was a very big problem before tbh

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all main clans had bases on pvp servers

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previously the timer was only 1 hour and it wasn't a problem

peak summit
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And I’m sure the majority of their stashes was on a PVE server safely tucked away

slow basalt
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now its 24 hours and that creates a large hassle

peak summit
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It’s a bs mechanic that has no business in a PVP mmo

slow basalt
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I think that horse breeders were using pve servers, but don't think resources were stored on pve

peak summit
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lol I’m 99% sure most of their inventory is stashed on PVE servers cause that exactly what I’d do

slow basalt
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I get it, I hate pve servers. I hate region lock and 24 hour cooldowns IN REGION even more.

peak summit
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And as a solo I probably will do it if the feature stays in. I mean why not take advantage of it if others will

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I’ll build my base in a PVE server completely safe and go raid fully geared when I feel like being an ass

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If I’m thinking of doing it others are.

slow basalt
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If your playing solo your input shouldn't even be given here, this is not a solo game lol

peak summit
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Crazy that you actually think your opinion somehow matters more because you play with a group lmao. The entitlement is strong with this community it seems.

tardy panther
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I'm new to MOE. Can someone explain what people mean by hiding on locker servers and raiding on unlocked. What does that mean, locked vs unlocked?

slow basalt
slow basalt
# tardy panther I'm new to MOE. Can someone explain what people mean by hiding on locker servers...

So there are now region lock servers. You can transfer in between servers in this game, but with region lock they are limited to that specific region. Example: NA Region Locked server - Only characters with a steam wallet based in the NA region can access this server, other regions are blocked. In addition, if you are on a unlocked NA server, and you transfer to a NA Region locked server, you are unable to leave that tile for 24 hours. Region locked <-> region locked = 1 hour transfer, Region locked <-> unlocked server = 24 hours. I made a suggestion that the region lock timer should be the same as the other servers (1 hour) because they are already blocking other regions from entering. The 24 hour cooldown will also keep people in that region from joining.

peak summit
slow basalt
peak summit
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PVE and PVP should be completely separate imo

odd crater
slow basalt
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He will quit within the first week.

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or find some friends.

peak summit
slow basalt
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this aint a playtest

peak summit
pastel parcel
trail goblet
tidal dirge
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This snake196 guy is kind of dumb. First climbing claws. Now he thinks he’ll be a godly offline solo raider

midnight tendon
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Pretty sure that guy is a troll

trail goblet
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Why people directly insulting and stuff, he is just a bit optimistic, probably didnt do enaugh research and reading what in-game expierences players are giving him as a feedback... and he just didnt play the game yet. He will, then he finds out, then he will probably learn. Or stay ignorent but yeah let him be

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Let him get hit in pvp enaugh times, the game itself will teach him.

leaden cedar
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Lmao if he thinks it is like Conan he is in for some surprises.

peak summit
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Like they have the audacity to call me dumb yet it’s already been established I’d build on a PVE server so good luck to them trying to raid me. Only way they will is by using some kind of exploit in PVE and hopefully im there to record it and get the whole clan banned as they rightfully should be.

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I said the climbing was like Conan and you guys basically went off on that in a rage for like 3 straight days lmao

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Looking back on that post looks like the up votes still got it. That clearly still upset you papa clam.

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The whole clan is incapable of coming into a suggestions discord and instead of actually talking about the topic they just insult anyone who doesn’t agree with them. It’s pathetic and child like.

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lol are you again making fun of special needs people?

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<@&793766213805015060> this is now the second time papa clam has said I basically have mental issues. When I was infact kicked in the head. Pretty sure this is harassment/verbal abuse and against not only this discord guidelines but against discord in general. Someone who has no issue calling random people mentally handicapped has no business being in here.

heady star
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He's earned a server demerit, anyone unable to debate like a civil adult will receive the same mark. If this thread continues being a cesspool of bravado it'll just be locked altogether. Doesn't seem like a conversation but moreso a rage filled angst fest.

midnight tendon
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For the record you can go look in those chats and everyone at first was trying to be nice to the snake kid but hes always gonna troll and bait its not worth it.

pastel parcel
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I mean it is annoying when someone doesn’t know enough about the game to suggest things. It would be like if I made suggestions on how to balance ark when I’ve played like 10 hours of it

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I would put a lot of the blame on the developers and streaming community. They do a decent job of broad stroke videos but are absolutely horrible when it comes to actually explaining how things work

peak summit
peak summit
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Sorry I just called you out for your bigotry was all.

pastel parcel
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snake just please go spend a couple hours of research. you giving ideas when you know nothing about the game is like arguing with a toddler. most people here have 500+ if not 1000+ hours in the game. if you havent even participated in multiple endgame raids where theres like 20v20 battles etc your suggestions wont have the nuance required to mean anything.

peak summit
pastel parcel
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i mean if you dont understand that your opinions are close to meaningless because you dont have the correct context. removing climbing with heavy gear literally does nothing lol. if someone is raiding you they are breaking down your walls destroying your towers etc. any small gorup of like 1-3 is not going to have a base on pvp anyway as it will get demolished instantly

peak summit
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If you read anything that was said in that thread you’d understand. It still currently has way more upvotes than down so say what you want but clearly I’m not the only one who feels it should be removed

slow basalt
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I made the same suggestion but since everyone hates me it got 16 downvotes

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its hard trying to stir up some drama for wipe with the strict discord moderators

heady star
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As opposed to carefree and completely unattentive I'm guessing.

peak summit
slow basalt
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@heady star we one week away from wipe

heady star
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Well I wouldn't call it a wipe but we are one week away, which means it's time and far overdue to purge some cess from the pool.

slow basalt
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I should get some admin powers here to rid the discord of some trash

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SO much rule breaking going on and no one moderating

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I'll check my pm's if u can send me the application

heady star
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Yeah, I'm gonna hard pass on that.

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Just going to go back to doing nothing, as you insinuated.

peak summit
trail goblet
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Because myself, I have posted many times against a certain suggestion. But dindt get hated or insulted. Even this one, I prefer 24h cooldown stays. Or less maybe 20h. But enaugh so bigger guilds or chinese zergs dont make missuse of their numbers against smaller/medium guilds and the small & medium guilds can still have fun, play and even grow slowly to become a bigger guils so at a point that bigger guilds can have more compitition and fun themself with a real challenge instead of only wiping small guilds.

peak summit
# trail goblet I believe its because of your attitude and the things you say or the type of att...

I don’t see how I say anything in any kind of way? I simply don’t agree with some things and because I don’t convert to their thought process they get upset there’s no real two ways about it. Nothing I’ve said is me actively trying to troll or seek attention from anyone. The two suggestions I made which was removing climbing with heavy armor and nerfing towers both had WAY more up votes than down. So again you guys can think I’m somehow in the wrong and stupid for thinking the way I do but clearly I’m not the only one. I’m simply the most vocal.

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This thread is another perfect example. Somehow I’m dumb because I think there should be a cool down yet the threads up and down votes are completely divided so clearly plenty of people think the same. But the ones who don’t have no business coming in here basically dumping on the people they don’t agree with trying to act like they’re somehow lesser beings which is exactly what they do. Look at papaclam he was the most hostile and people agreed with him left and right and now he’s gone. Clearly one side is full of trolls while the other simply wants to improve the game for everyone.

trail goblet
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I read what you say and can understand you. In any way, lets keep this chat focused on the actualy sugessted subject. 🙏

leaden cedar
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24H cooldown is from region locked pvp to not region locked pvp.
You don't have this 24h cooldown when you travel from region locked to region locked or from non region locked to non region locked.
This is a mean to make it somehow risky for people to raid on non region locked servers from a region locked server.
Exemple : EU guild lives on EU region locked server. Same EU guild goes to raid an asian guild on non region locked server and then go home. Asian guild can only defend themselves and never attack the EU guild on the EU locked server.

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With 24h cooldown that EU guild has to think twice before going to non region locked server because it means, they can't defend against other EU guilds from region locked servers for 24h.
So before doing this, they have to make sure they have enough people to both attack other server and defend their server from other EU guilds.
Makes it harder to abuse region lock feature to raid all NA/Asian guild without any risk of getting slaped back.

slow basalt
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It punishes player that play unlocked and lets newbs hide on locked servers

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You should be punished for playing on locked servers

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Segregating the population is bad

trail goblet
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If your new to the game, or your guild is small/medium... you prefer to have a fair growth line right? And fight against the bigger guilds when your ready.
Why should that make you a noob?

Otherway around, if you have such a big .... because you are in or have a big guild, then you prefer to fight against big guilds right. IF your the real deal, you prefer the small/medium guilds to grow up so they can face you equally.
If not, I think your the noob.

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‐----Region locked regions, with a cooldown of 24h. Is a perfect, smart choice of MoE if they focus on keeping this game alive and letting the numbers grow of players and guilds.

The guilds and players that really want to stay small, they will play pve or the new private server option.
Like, the current new mechanics are perfectly attracting a bigger audience, why are u guys unhappy?

If I would be a big guild, I would feel weak, and bored to only fight small guilds every time they grow a little.
I prefer they grow up and face me, so I have a new challenge, get more out of my own and my guilds full potential. Thats what real man do.

pastel parcel
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clever belfryBOT
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dynoSuccess snylack has been warned.

odd crater
peak summit
# pastel parcel you do. and we have a right to dismiss it because you dont know what you are tal...

there isn’t a game in existence where someone needs to have hundreds of hours of playtime to formulate an opinion on it. So in other words if I no life this game and then made my suggestions you guys would actually consider it or would you still be coming for my throat for any other reason? Cause that’s all you have on me is my playtime but plenty of others clearly think the same as me since they upvoted what I had said. Do their opinions not matter or should we do a poll to see what their average play time is just to make sure they’re worthy?

pastel parcel
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lol what about chess? what about league of legends. a couple hundred hours and you wont even know any of the advanced strategies let alone every single ability, the different builds the champions can go the way the put their points etc

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spend less time here and more time looking up videos and learnign to play the game

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a noob trying to change a game that they dont even begin to understand

peak summit
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It’s simply that the players who’ve been here for a while feel they’re entitled. You think you’re entitled to decide what changes should be made. You decide who should be making those suggestions and you decide who should and shouldn’t be playing the game. Thats your mind set in a nutshell.

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I have literally thousands of hours in the total war series and I would never in a million years think my opinion is somehow more valid than someone else simply cause I’ve played the games longer.

radiant scroll
peak summit
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You guys are simply doing what you did there to get this thread locked. Instead of actually talking about the topic all you’re capable of is personal attacks.

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Like any of you who clearly have an issue with me you’re more than welcome to DM me instead of replying to everything I say with nonsense that has nothing to do with the current topic.

supple dune
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Keep in mind to stick to the topic PES_ThumbsUp

faint wave
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24 hour ban seems more than reasonable. Folks should keep more stuff on PvP servers if they raiding and pvping. I dont know another game that allows pvpers a safe pve base. I would make it a week personally.

kindred hemlock
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First UP sorry for my bad english.

So One of the biggest Problems with the Game in the past was the thing big clans builded up on pve server lvled there builded up gear sieg stuff savely away behind pve settings.
They switch to PvP server stomped others small clans big clans it did not matter, if by any chance they just go back to there main server save and sound had no major lose other than what they had on the pvp server.
At some point player even go so far because of that BS that they find ways to f... with you on pve servers because they got feed up with it.

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Now you have to think about your target you have to think about stuff like how mutch can i earn from raiding a other server and what can i lose on my server if your home server is a PvP server, since you are away from your home for 24h.

If you loveing this game how i do, and you think it is a good thing to hide you behind pve go to pvp to f up with everyone just because you have nothing to lose.
And say it is good for server interaction than you just a toxic person that justify being a a.h.
If you a a.h just say it like it is you like to grief and don't talk yourself out of your toxic ways.

With that said 24h traveling is just fine!
Peace out!

worldly torrent
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If this happens, PVE players are the ones that will loose the most because the meta for competitive guilds will be PVE bases pushing PVE players out of their counties

slow basalt
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PVE should be removed

muted owl
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I hope from what I heard the restriction of moving resources from PVE to PVP is in place.. you should be able to play both with same character but resources and items hurts the value of PVP items...

faint wave
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no restriction, but pvp servers have higher gather rates

peak summit
# slow basalt PVE should be removed

They’d lose a lot of players. Games like this are always better when they give you the option between the two but the servers should be completely separate and nothing should be transferable