Trying to get to Sub 20

[silver fulcrum]

Scramble:
U F' R2 D2 L2 F2 D R F L U L2 F2 D' L2 U' R2 D2 F2 R2 U' D' R2 F2

Scramble Orientation:
White Top, Green Front

Solve Method:
CFOP

Note:
All notation was recorded relative to White Top / Green Front.
Cube rotations (x, y, z) occurred during the solve but were not recorded by the app.

Total Solve Time: 23.928s
Total Moves: 67
Average TPS: 2.8

Cross
Moves: 10
Time: 3.429s
TPS: 2.8
B' F' F F' R D' F2 L B' L'

F2L Pair 1
Moves: 9
D D' D L' D2 L F D' F'

F2L Pair 2
Moves: 9
D D' R D' R' D' L D L'

F2L Pair 3
Moves: 7
D2 B' D' B2 R' B' R

F2L Pair 4
Moves: 5
D2 L B' L' B

F2L Total
Moves: 30
Time: 12.922s
TPS: 2.2

OLL
Moves: 11
Time: 3.646s
TPS: 2.9
D D' D' B' L B R' B' L' B R

PLL
Moves: 9
Time: 3.931s
TPS: 2.2
D2 S2 U S L2 S' U S2 D'

AUF
Time: 0.367s

Any tips would be appreciated

[silver fulcrum]

Ive attached a more accurate solve summary below, which is taken from yellow top, green face

Total Solve Time: 23.928s
Total Moves: 67
Average TPS: 2.8

Cross
Moves: 10
Time: 3.429s
TPS: 2.8
B' F' F F' L U' F2 R B' R'

F2L Pair 1
Moves: 9
U U' U R' U2 R F U' F'

F2L Pair 2
Moves: 9
U U' L U' L' U' R U R'

F2L Pair 3
Moves: 7
U2 B' U' B2 L' B' L

F2L Pair 4
Moves: 5
U2 R B' R' B

F2L Total
Moves: 30
Time: 12.922s
TPS: 2.2

OLL
Moves: 11
Time: 3.646s
TPS: 2.9
U U' U' B' R B L' B' R' B L

PLL
Moves: 9
Time: 3.931s
TPS: 2.2
U2 S2 D S R2 S' D S2 U'

AUF
Time: 0.367s

My speed isnt great but i blame the fact that the solve is done on a gan i carry 2 which is frosted and new so it slides out of my hands like its tryna escape (i main a gan 11m pro uv)

But also look ahead isnt great either

[buoyant badge]

@silver fulcrum You did a lot of filler moves, if I'm not mistaken it also happens during cross, which is really bad
Your move count on cross should be 8 moves or less

Also, I recommend actually trying to record the solves instead of using smart cubes, because they can't give the critics whether or not you regrip or rotate too much during a solve

Also, at this average you don't really need lookahead, just focus on improving your efficiency and recognition

[silver fulcrum]

I made 8 filler moves

And i blame the cube for those ngl, its not my main and i had a few moves overshoot or like mess up, so i had to readjust

[buoyant badge]

Then again, record an actual solve on your main instead

[silver fulcrum]

I dont rlly have a setup to record

[buoyant badge]

Then you have to remember the reconstruction urself
I think this does help because remembering how the solve goes can let you have better understanding of solutions

Tbh using smart cubes if they don't track ur rotations and regrips is just a waste of time lol, unless you're matching against others

Not to mention it's holding you back

[silver fulcrum]

@buoyant badge

Heres a solve i did, i dont have any details like the scramble etc, but u can see it all anyway

And another

[uneven badge]

• rotationless cross on bottom ~ use misorientated cross to help (cross off by D, D2 D')
• work on ur f2l solutions, keep it basic, no need for R B' R' B back insert etc.
• rotate better by learning about EO
• keep homegrip for most R moves and the r move for OLL
• learn proper fingertricks for PLL, particularly the R2 you showed

[silver fulcrum]

My back insert isnt slow though? All my f2l solutions are similiar pace, so i see no reason why not do them, id get it if they were slow or done poorly, but they seem fine, most of my cross solutions are rotationless, im pretty sure, i still need to work on it, cuz my cross solutions are slow, and ik all abt EO already, so id appreciate if u can expand on that, and my homegrip stuff is pretty poor, but i also never do an r move for OLL, I cant remember the exact alg I use, but it might look like an r move but it isnt, but i am looking to imrpove my OLL algs soon, because i only know like 3, and the algs are rlly outdated, but atm im working on full pll

[uneven badge]

for that back insert you can just do U' R' U R and end up at a better starting angle for ur next pair

on first vid

the 1st and 2nd vid are not rotationless crosses

[silver fulcrum]

Dont i literally do that for the 2nd f2l pair

So wdym

[uneven badge]

no you do R2 B' R B for 2nd pair

same idea for 3rd vid 3rd pair, you don't need to cancel into sledge just insert it normally with U R U' R'

simple solutions are better for lookahead in the future

[silver fulcrum]

The sledge was for lookahead

Thats why i looked at the white face

Thata just cuz i got poor lookahead

Otherwise i would do a normal insert

[uneven badge]

you never need to look at white face since its always at the bottom

[silver fulcrum]

How is that a better starting angle, i just replicated it on my cube, and i dont rlly see a benefit

[silver fulcrum]

I had a look to see if the white corner was inserted or not

Because i didnt see it on the top layer

Just poor lookahead

Plus i used it to rotate easier

[uneven badge]

when you do the 2 gen RU solution the left side never moves, so once you can do ur current pair without looking, you can always know whats on ur left and reduce potential pieces on top

[silver fulcrum]

Yeah i just dont think like that tbh

[uneven badge]

yeah you need to change ur thinking else it would be harder to get sub 20

[silver fulcrum]

So in short your saying work on lookahead and finger tricks

(Im already in the process of changing / learning more algs)

[uneven badge]

work on solutions and fingertricks

no point of lookahead if you don't have a good foundation

[silver fulcrum]

Hit me w some video suggestions if u got any

[uneven badge]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqrfspOsG9B-DNSI6aS4s10atxVYqPxm9

mostly 1st vid

for cross, probably jperm
https://youtu.be/IWXpkfwimo0>

[silver fulcrum]

Ight

@uneven badge what time do u avg

[uneven badge]

sub 10

[silver fulcrum]

How long did it take u to average sub 10, also what cube do u use

[uneven badge]

like a few years on and off, weilong v10 bc

[silver fulcrum]

I logged this solve

SCRAMBLE:
U F2 D B2 U' L2 B2 R' U' B2 L F R' B2 F2 R' B' D' U2

SCRAMBLE ORIENTATION:
White Top / Green Front

START ORIENTATION:
Yellow Top / Orange Front

SOLVE TIME:
22.385s

CROSS:
U' R' F U L2

F2L PAIR 1:
U U' R U2 R' U2 x' U F U'

F2L PAIR 2:
x y' R U R' U' R U' R' U2 U' R' U' R

F2L PAIR 3:
U R U2 R' x R' U R U'

F2L PAIR 4:
x' y y' U L' U2 L U2 L' U' L

OLL:
U F U R U' R' F' U' R U R' U R U2 R'

PLL:
U x R2 D2 R U R' D2 R U' R x' U'

[buoyant badge]

Well you can clearly see that your solutions aren't efficient enough
Also you can use the cubedb format to make the reconstruction looks cleaner

[silver fulcrum]

It was only my second pair tbh

[buoyant badge]

I'm sub-15 and I think my F2L can still be more efficient, so it's not that simple to say "just my 2nd pair" lol
Not to mention the 4th you did like 2 rotations and one tilt

[silver fulcrum]

My goal is sub 20 gng, lets keep that in mind, i aint tryna go sub 10 here or nun crazy, a lot can be forgiven

[buoyant badge]

Well then we'll see how much is "a lot" being forgiven can slow down the progress to ur sub-20

[silver fulcrum]

Idm if it takes 2 weeks or two years tbh

I cube to pass the time

[buoyant badge]

Well, if you really wanna get to sub-20 then just try to learn better solutions for individual pairs
Try to develop your turning speed more, and learn more OLL for the last layer if you wanna optimize

Then ig it's spamming solves? Idk I think that's how I got to sub-20 then starting to fix my habits later on

(except full OLL tho, I think that's what pushed to get close to sub-15)

[silver fulcrum]

Ive learnt 16/21 pll algs

Once im done w that, im gonna move on to f2l cases i think

Optimising that

And then after that im finally gonna learn 2 look oll

[buoyant badge]

If these are what you're missing then i guess it's viable

Learn them first then

[silver fulcrum]

I know like 3 oll algs

So if i get a case idk, i just change the case till i have one ik

[buoyant badge]

Maybe it's better to learn 2 look OLL first
That way you don't have to spend time cycling for algs as much

[silver fulcrum]

My OLL never contributes massively to my solve time tbh

Even when i have to cycle through oll's

My execution is pretty fast, its like 1 second of my solve

Im just gonna finish up w pll algs, and move onto f2l, as its a massive chunk of my solves

Usually around 12 - 15 seconds of my solve

I also need to work on cross cuz thats like 4 seconds, but i should get that to sub 2 rlly

[buoyant badge]

Time your OLL solving a few times then, I'm pretty sure even if your exec is 1s for each alg it's still gonna take really long because of the time required to recognize

[silver fulcrum]

Because i only know like 3 cases, there is 0 recognition needed, cuz im looking for like 1 thing in particular

Ive already looked at around 50 oll solves of mine

They all fall around 1 - 2 seconds

My OLL usually gets 4+ TPS

[buoyant badge]

But eh, if you wanna do it ur way then do it ig, you already knew what to go for next anyway, so ig I don't even need to give you advice

You don't seem to actually asking for advice because you already knew what to do next ig

[silver fulcrum]

Tips are gd

[silver fulcrum]

Last guy gave me f2l advice

And cross advice

[buoyant badge]

Which is why now giving you last layer tips

[silver fulcrum]

I just PB'd

17.41 secs

[buoyant badge]

gg

[silver fulcrum]

It was on a smart cube aswell

F2l was 7 sum seconds

[buoyant badge]

Imagine your F2L was so fast that the other steps were the ones lacking behind
One reason why to not hold on learning some parts ig

[silver fulcrum]

My f2l is usually lile 12 - 15