2-4 + OH relay

[naive sleet]

lol made every reconstruction, even the 4x4 ones

https://youtu.be/4fE5v2NAlbQ

recons are in video description :)

[naive sleet]

@cloud knot @keen swan @hybrid horizon

plssssss critique me

time dilation doesnt work

[hybrid horizon]

ok one second

what method do you use for 2x2?

[naive sleet]

eg cll and 1-look

anticll too

[hybrid horizon]

2x2

1. you missed 2 4 move layers on green (x z' U' R' U R') and red (x' U2 R U' R2)
   other than that pretty good, just work on first face efficiency

[keen swan]

I am literally shit at 4x4 and oh

why did you ping me

[hybrid horizon]

crap

[keen swan]

the only thing i am better than you in here is 2x2

and i am garbage at 2x2

[hybrid horizon]

ignore that, I accidentally hit enter before I was done

[keen swan]

L

Get good bro

I recommend learning time dialation as this will lower your times and make you incredibly fast, I am still learning it but I have seen a huge improvement in my times(sub 16 to sub 12) and I think it will help you improve a ton too! Also what was that xcross. Just learn time dialation, it'll really help and it's what the wr single of -0.33 used(solved in inspection) other than that just practice getting better lookahead and f2l efficiency the main focus though is time dialation since it can drop your times by seconds and will def make you a lot faster so yeah. if you have any questions just dm me or ping me in #🎲・cubing and I will try to help you as much as I can 👍 also maybe don't try to do stupid xcrosses like that, that just looks slow and I would just do normal cross without the xcross that you did. doing that solve without that xcross would probably be faster, i also recommend not quitting 3x3 🤯 Anyways I will most likely sleep now, if you need help just ping me and when I wake up I can try to help you on stuff like how to practice time dialation or how to learn it in the first place, trust me it's not as hard as it seems. It took me a few hours to learn how to and once I got it down, I started to improve like crazy.

[hybrid horizon]

4x4

1. for f2c I wouldve done x2 z R' Uw' D' Rw' R y Rw U2 Rw' R2 Uw y Rw U2 Rw', your solution wasnt bad though
2. for your first cross edge, x Rw2 U' Rw wouldve been more efficient
3. the and of edge pairing felt kind of choppy, try to pause less during it, even if you have to turn a little slower
4. try Rw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' F2 Rw2 U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 F2 Rw2 F2 for oll parity, it only has 1 regrip and I like it a lot better

OH
idk we use different methods and average about the same iirc

3x3
everything looked pretty balanced, plus we avg about the same again, and based on your reaction during the solve I think you know what your mistakes are

[naive sleet]

i suck at layer

i’m not changing oll parity, i times both, that one was over 1 sec slower

i need to do more untimed solves

and practice 2x2 layer

do you know any layer solver

[hybrid horizon]

no, I just use unlimited inspection when I can't find an efficient layer

during untimed/casual solves

[keen swan]

murr

[naive sleet]

i cant even do that with unlimited inspection

[hybrid horizon]

5 moves is ok, but most of the time theres something better

[naive sleet]

i usually do more than 5 moves

[hybrid horizon]

5 moves is the maximum it should take if you find the optimal solution every time

[naive sleet]

tf i sometimes do 10 moves i need to stop myself

ahh

[hybrid horizon]

if you get a scramble where you cant find anything good then ping me

[naive sleet]

ok

[cloud knot]

im slow af compared to you but i'll try

[quartz glade]

3x3: Ur f2l solutions are wierd sometimes bc of either bad lookahead or tunnel vision. It its bad lookahead do turbo tracking. If its tunnel vision idk what to do.

Also ur cross is sorta jank.

OH:
bro ur SB is just cfop
use onionhoney trainer and set it to ss

[trail egret]

for 3x3 you can do z2 F R L2 D L' which is just 5 moves

from doing the first pair you should have seen the GO or BR pair but you didnt for some reason

also for second pair i think it's better to do it as
R' U' R U' R U R' U2 R U' R'

or you could have rotated and do y' U L U' L' / y' U L U L' to make it a 3 move insert

[naive sleet]

ik

i did it wrong

[naive sleet]

real

[keen swan]

i highly recommend not dropping your cube during inspection

also that 2x2 1 look was

interesting to say the least

[keen swan]

honestly

just get good

[naive sleet]

dude

[naive sleet]

dude

[naive sleet]

and i unbanned you in my server

what am i thinking

[keen swan]

what

[keen swan]

It wasn't good

[keen swan]

you are thinking very critically

[keen swan]

[naive sleet]

sooooo useful information

of course it is bad i suck at 2x2

[keen swan]

ok

not like i'm good at helping in the first place

[quartz glade]

isnt that y u posted a critique with it

[naive sleet]

yes

[quartz glade]

lol

[keen swan]

Imagine being bad

[heavy ginkgo]

I made one

I can send it if you want

[naive sleet]

omg

pog

ty

[heavy ginkgo]

you'll probably have to install python

if you don't have it already

[naive sleet]

i have python on computer

thanks a lot

[heavy ginkgo]

nice

should work out of the box then

[heavy ginkgo]

np

it runs in the command line btw

[naive sleet]

ok

[heavy ginkgo]

there's a readme anyway

it will give you all optimal solutions as well if there are multiple optimal solutions for the same layer

[naive sleet]

ooo

[heavy ginkgo]

the readme could be a bit more detailed lol

but you'll get a list like this

[naive sleet]

ok

[heavy ginkgo]

the first row corresponds to white, then red, green, yellow, orange, blue (same order as cstimer's face solver)

[naive sleet]

alr

[heavy ginkgo]

first number is the optimal movecount, second number is how many solutions were found at that movecount and finally a list of those solutions

better example

[naive sleet]

ohhh

mmm

[heavy ginkgo]

so you can look through the different solutions to see if one is easier to understand intuitively

[heavy ginkgo]

this screenshot is from the face solving mode actually but yeah it has both modes

[naive sleet]

can i put it in my server’s 2x2 resources? its really good

[heavy ginkgo]

there's also summary mode

[naive sleet]

w

cool

[heavy ginkgo]

yeah sure just put my discord and github https://github.com/JaiWWW/

it's a bit slow lol, I made it bc I wanted to explore all 2x2 permutations and get overall optimal layer movecount stats (like how many scrambles require 1 move, how many require 2 etc) but it was too slow lol

it was too slow to even do that for faces

I might remake it in js at some point and see if I can get it fast enough

[heavy ginkgo]

if you want the layer solver as well

[heavy ginkgo]

here it is

[naive sleet]

bruh how do i run it

[heavy ginkgo]

are you on windows

[naive sleet]

it just opens visual studio

yes

[heavy ginkgo]

open command line

windows+space and type cmd and hit enter

[naive sleet]

yeah?

mhm

[heavy ginkgo]

then navigate to the folder the files are in

[naive sleet]

yes

[heavy ginkgo]

with cd "filepath"

[naive sleet]

yes

[heavy ginkgo]

which u can drag and drop

[naive sleet]

wut

[heavy ginkgo]

then type python face_layer_solver.py

[naive sleet]

ooo

dude i dont have numpy

nvm ill download

[heavy ginkgo]

or you can replace face_layer_solver.py with the full filepath rather than using cd if easier

[heavy ginkgo]

I should add how to do this and how to run etc in the readme lol

[naive sleet]

real

[heavy ginkgo]

I mean when I rewite it in js I'll just do it as a script that will run on cstimer so it will add an extra option to the solvers menu

[naive sleet]

finally got it working

i had to pip install numpy

[heavy ginkgo]

yeah

[naive sleet]

and change the np.int in py222 to just int

[heavy ginkgo]

sorry I don't know how to package python apps 😭

[heavy ginkgo]

o what

[naive sleet]

bruh

ye

it raised attribute error saying to just use int instead of np.int

but its working!!🥳

[heavy ginkgo]

weird works fine for me without that

[sonic forge]

I love how you posted a recon of a 2-4 relay and mostly got tips on 2x2 which will save like a second lmao

[naive sleet]

😭

[mossy orbit]

put ur timer on 2-pad first lol

[naive sleet]

i did

shut up about that

i surrendered to peer pressure

[mossy orbit]

lol