#modding-general

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gentle owl
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the issue isnt ui,the game is searching for a file it cant find it could of happened if you were downloading a file at the time and crashed

cyan ivy
gentle owl
gaunt valley
cyan ivy
silver peak
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My steam account are connect so what should I do now ? :/

river schooner
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With the new update do i need to buy some cc mods to get full version of ae skyrim ?

hoary sand
slim reef
river schooner
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im trying to download nolvus but when it comes to downloading it it says i dont have skyrim ae.

zenith fiber
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Looks like there's an issue with the Updated section of Creations on Xbox Series X. Usually the option only shows up when a mod has been updated, but right now when I click on it there's nothing there and when I press A it immediately CTD 🤔
UPDATE: Found the problem, USSEP was updated but it was down a few categories in the Updated section instead of the one in the Category List.

pearl crystal
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cant search noth without disconnected

stuck moth
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Hey all! Last night was my first experience modding skyrim and it went pretty okay, nothing too terrible just time consuming for the first time. I'm wondering if someone could take a look at this and let me know if anything amiss. It looks loads better, but I did get some weird effects here and there forcing me to move things around. I'm quite certain the water mod isn't working. It looks better but I'm constantly tweaking enb light values. Whatcha think? Anything more I should add?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sw6NoKIL1tKL1gClZ8g2dEPjmeQoMP18/view?usp=drivesdk

naive umbra
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All the mods selected on the Bethesda website do not appear in my Creation Club library. Furthermore, I'm not able to organize the order of the downloaded mods, so as not to crash my game. I change the order of the mods but every time I reload the game it messes up again.

zenith fiber
gaunt valley
river schooner
naive umbra
gaunt valley
zenith fiber
river schooner
naive umbra
zenith fiber
naive umbra
naive umbra
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It starts to crash, this update messed up the whole game

zenith fiber
# naive umbra Even before loading the save

Are all the mods you're rearranging going back to where they were originally or just some of them? I'm asking just in case some of these mods you're trying to move are Master Files that need to load to the top

thorny lark
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Wish I realized the verified creations were considered mods really threw me off guard when I couldn't load my vanilla character and trophies would be disabled

naive umbra
zenith fiber
# naive umbra There are some mods, but they are random mods, patch examples, which in my previ...

Unfortunately it sounds like there could be a mod(s) that is no longer available that the others in your Load Order rely on. I would read each description of the mods you have in your Load Order and see if it requires another mod that you don't have installed. I'm not sure if this new UI hides those mods like it did before. Worse case scenario, you may have to delete your reserve space and redownload all the mods you had if they're available. Then when you load up your save choose "Current" when it asks you which Load Order you want to load

naive umbra
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🫠

naive umbra
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but thanks for your attention

zenith fiber
# naive umbra but thanks for your attention

No problem, sorry your problem couldn't be solved. Like I said though, if anything you could always delete reserved space and start your Load Order from scratch then choose Current Load Order when you fire up your save. Good luck!

coral glen
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Is mods down again?

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Or Is the ui just broken

elfin jewel
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Worth noting Simon magnus removed his mods off bethnet so if any yall were using Mysticism your gonna have to use the reupload

native stump
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It seems like ui mods only crash creations when trying to search for mods.. I've managed to work around that for xbox... add all mods to bookmarks first then reset game and download them straight from bookmarks tab.. it worked for me 😅

gloomy pine
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Having constant crash issues with the game since this update it's basically unplayable at this point, any load creations without it crashing, can't load into my game without crashing...

modern crypt
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Even I'm having problems just getting on the game currently though it could be my slow Internet connection but it was working 5 mins ago

faint acorn
coral glen
chilly prism
modern crypt
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Can't even search up things without being booted to the skyrim main menu stealt236Ded

elfin jewel
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Bigger load orders also hurt the menu

After 200 mods I'd say the menu will probably become unusable

distant kindle
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Hello there, idk if you guys can help me here but in the eso server they dont answer my questions. Last sunday i just install the whole ESO modlist ( what a wonderfull timng considering the update i wasnt aware of...) i succeed the installation and after the last steps my game doesnt lmook that nice because it was missing the CC needed (idk why but ralof just look at me instead of saying his wellknown line). Now that the CC is back i downloaded the lastest version of skse (back when i tried sunday it was 2.2.3 now its 2.2.4) Is the mod or modpack broken for everyone?

sick sable
distant kindle
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i think that skse is updated, as i said when i downloaded it it was 2.2.3 and now its 2.2.4, it was updated yesterday so, is the game too new for the mod to work anymore? we will have to wait for the modcreator to update their mods?

jagged canyon
distant kindle
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i tried to launched it from steam and not vortex, so without any mod, as i believed, found out that none of the alive were moving, i was in T pose but i could move and jk skyrim all in one was running, riverwood wasnt vanilla

jagged canyon
distant kindle
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its a bit boring considering i stop playing skyrim like 6 mouth after the AE and i wanted, as always, go through my 6 mouth annually skyrim mood just to found out i can only play vanilla 😭

craggy moth
distant kindle
coral glen
vast edge
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Anyone else having issues connecting to the creations tab

distant kindle
steady river
distant kindle
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just had an announcement from ESO, CC is down

coral glen
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Of course considering the headache I now have I give up completely trying to fix my mods

lyric ether
silver drum
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Strange Issue (Xbox One S/Skyrim SE):
Circumstance: At 150 mods with about 700+mb to spare
Issue: Load Order Shuffling itself, seeming to not save
Issue 2: When the game is booted around 53 to 75 mods just disable themselves

  1. Loading a save will correct the mod load order somewhat.
  2. If one of the mods that randomly decide to disable themselves is disabled, I can re-enable them via the Creation menu and then use the save LO memory to correct it.
  3. However any mod not present in the save (replacement for missing mods) will not 'hold' in a load order correction
  4. Entering the load order after editing it at all will shuffle the load order, as well as attempting to use the archive function

Looking for any ideas, as of right now it appears as though somehow my load order is set to 'read only'

  1. Have performed a hard reset
  2. I have no UI mods
  3. The game is up to date and I can connect to the Creation menu fine
craggy moth
distant kindle
steady river
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nice , so now we will wait for another week

coral glen
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Probably yea

craggy moth
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Ugh I waited one week for the mods to be back up, and now I gotta wait another for them to fix “creations” ? This is messed up, half of our lo’s are completely broken, and they didn’t even give us more space.

harsh oak
wanton sluice
steady river
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well its time to play vanilla after looong time ...but i agree @craggy moth they should gave us more space at least... and next gen update for fallout 4 also 😃

gloomy pine
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Can't load Skyrim now and it fails to sync

harsh oak
wanton sluice
harsh oak
steady river
harsh oak
coral glen
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Back to cyberpunk then

steady river
harsh oak
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yeahh

granite rampart
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Are the servers still down?

steady river
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it looks like servers are online

granite rampart
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Sweet so mods are good to go?

lofty abyss
granite rampart
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Why does my skyrim crash when it loads in my game when I changed load order

steady river
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servers down again?😂

harsh oak
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they’ve stayed down for me

craggy moth
harsh oak
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same, honestly

soft pebble
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Ne1 know how to solve the dwarven armillary in the arquebus gun creation????

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I'm getting real sick of this puzzle:(

drowsy swallow
chrome cypress
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@real sphinx apologize for the ping but now that the load orders can be backed up. What would the next step or challenge be in expanding the mod storage cap / space.
Also purely for personal understanding does the game files partition work the same way or similar to a pc windows installation partition.

summer timber
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that's a good point tbh, now that we can back up our load orders there isn't really a reason not to increase mod caps

chilly prism
harsh oak
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iirc it’s a microsoft / xbox thing and they’re still working on negotiating it with them

don’t take my word for it though

summer timber
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iirc it isn't, bethesda's reasoning is: Bricking load orders, breaking saves

pearl crystal
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they said before the game updated their talking to mirosoft about it about mod space increase

split crescent
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Does anyone know if the saver load order feature actually works?

chrome cypress
# summer timber that's a good point tbh, now that we can back up our load orders there isn't rea...

Naturally there's other challenges but from the way they made things sound yesterday that was there biggest issue, as for game save files they won't be deleted or lost, the reason they would have before is if you had certain mods installed and don't reinstall before launching your save corrupts. With the new update not only can a load order be backed up but the game can now detect mods not installed on a saved file and auto download them without even needing to manually back up the load order

strong moss
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ok so its not just me ... so mods still down for skyrim?

split crescent
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No they are up. Just some certain mods mess with the menu

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Also does anyone know of this load order feature actually work because it really does not seem to. It just shoves mods wherever it wants without any attempt to out them where i suposably saved them

strong moss
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well i need someone to help me with a load order im not that smart and my girlfriend did this b4 the mod rework i need 1 on 1 help if anyone can

slender fiber
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can't you use loot?

strong moss
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?

split crescent
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Im about to just wipe all my mods and be done with skyrim for a while because of one stupid mistake and the freaking load order thing not working how it should now my mods are in random places and it isnt following the load order. I dont understand how they release a feature and this is what happens ugh

strong moss
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wait was this for skyrim only or fo4 to

split crescent
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Skyrim only

slender fiber
# strong moss ?

its a program that just does all the load order and plugin stuff for you. Although i haven't used it in forever so i'm unsure whether it actually still works

strong moss
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idk ive never did this b4 just on xbox

slender fiber
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you are talking about a load order on pc right?

strong moss
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yes i... its so hard explain in txt lol i need 1on1 help since im dumb as rocks and computer illiterate

slender fiber
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just watch a youtube guide on loot for whichever game u want but i remember it being pretty easy to use

strong moss
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like if we could call it would be so easey to explain for me

green hornet
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I just spent 1 hours organizing my load order just to see be shuffled and scrambled randomly... Frustrating to say the least

strong moss
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so its not me ok my stuff wont stay activated

slender fiber
strong moss
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skse and nexus with the mod well wht was the mod button in the skyrim main menu

elfin jewel
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Low key funny how the server mods went quiet

cyan ivy
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Why does it have to be so broken! Reinstalled and managed to get back into the game again, got over halfway through my LO, decided I wanted to delete a couple mods to use different ones instead, I delete them but the space is still taken up

slender fiber
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use mod organizer 2 then use loot for the load order @strong moss you can find pretty comprehensive guides on youtube

strong moss
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its diffrent tho i thinl like i go skyrim together and stuff big like that and beyond skyrim bruma

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like really ik im stupid but i just .. i cant work correctly and i need to show it ..

split crescent
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Ive been working on my load order for 2 freaking days. I finally had it perfect and i was able to disable a mod that caused problems and then bam it crashed with no way to access my load order to disable it now i had to wipe everything and noe the saved load order does not function correctly so only half my mods installed

strong moss
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i keep turning on my mos and leaving the menu in game to just say there off again

slender fiber
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that's why im saying to use mod organizer 2 if ur on pc

strong moss
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idk if skyrim together needs to be done a specific way

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and idk even how to get that im computer illiterate .. lizzy plz can dm u this slow mode is killing me

slender fiber
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that's why i told you to use guides on youtube they can explain 10x better than i ever could

cyan ivy
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For the third time now, time to clear reserved space :/ kinda over this, have they even acknowledged there's major issues?

strong moss
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bethesda u really had to just touch it didnt u god

cyan ivy
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Luckily I saved my LO midway through so I'm just restoring, but this is infuriating

steady igloo
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Mod authors, do you think Bethesda is gonna give us more resource packs in the future? I love the fact we are apparently getting extra resources. I want this to keep going, personally.

split crescent
thorny lark
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i cant get skse working on either vortex or mo2

steady igloo
thorny lark
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yes

cyan ivy
split crescent
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I give up on skyrim for now. I need to wait till some of the mods i use get patched as well or at least have the offending bits removed so i can still use the new menu

steady igloo
elfin jewel
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I've backed up my LO to a Google doc so I know what to download if/when Bethesda fix everything they broke

split crescent
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Oh looks like the urbanranger88 mods that were down came back. For fallout 4

elfin jewel
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Feck

cyan ivy
split crescent
# elfin jewel Feck

My problem was i wasnt expecting a crash so i didnt have the ability to and i was so mad i just wiped my lo

elfin jewel
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I got far enough to
Gonna test to see if I can fix the ghost space bug

split crescent
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Well. Goodluck. Its gonna randomly put mods in random places

undone void
split crescent
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They might be classified as master files

light wasp
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Even before the update, some mods automatically did that. I just left them untouched after they moved.

silver drum
split crescent
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Thats just how those file types work. They will always jump to the top no matter what you do even before the update. When a mod is bugged is when it will jump to the bottom no matter where you put it. If they do that then thats the real problem. But jumping to the top means the porter or the original had them flagged as master files.

undone void
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I don't remember specifically which mods they were, but I don't think they were master files

split crescent
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Not every mod makes sense as a master file. There is a horse tweak mod i use thats flagged as a master file

silver drum
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the files in question were in the load order before the update, and they only jump about half the time

undone void
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They weren't placed at the top on download, only when I saved the LO to bethesda net. I'm hesitant to try replicating it

split crescent
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Oh that yeah i have that too. Idk. The load order saving and loading is just broken from what i can tell. It only saved about half my load order and did not even make an attempt to put it in the correct order

silver drum
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Ive noticed it seems related to opening the load order menu more then once per instance
Or using the archive tool

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Its almost as if the load order is marked as read only, it keeps randomly reverting and disabling things on its own. And the order its reading from seems consistently borked

undone void
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Is playing safe at all? My order is good for now, but if even starting a new file risks scrambling it, it's not worth the risk IMO

split crescent
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Yes playing has been safe since before the update

silver drum
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if you make no changes, you should be able to use a save to force the correct LO. The issue arises when you need to change a 'repair'

split crescent
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They need to fix the load order thing because it will ruin a lot of peoples days. It ruined mine. 2 days of downloading to get everything working. Gone. To ashes. Now i have to refind like 50 mods

undone void
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So save files currently work as a better archive feature than the feature in the creations tab?

silver drum
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I've been trying to brute force it by using a save file but its been a nightmare, basically a constant battle of me trying to move one mod correct -> entering a game and saving to bake the load order into the save file

split crescent
undone void
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That's good to know. Unfortunately, I'm not even sure if this new order is safe, with all the bug fixes and other updates they pushed

silver drum
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if I ever succeed, I will be making a brand new character: LOAD ORDER MAN
Then the routine will have to be: Boot game -> Open Creations -> enable all creations -> back out -> load LOAD ORDER MAN (Choosing use Load order from save) -> Load actual save file

split crescent
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With the 150 mod limit removed ive been able to actually patch my mods instead of relying on the load order to hope for the best lol

silver drum
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I'm hoping wiping my reserved space (I am writing everything down as we speak) will remove the 'read only' on my load order and maybe I can actually make adjustments

cyan ivy
split crescent
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Lucky you. 100 of my mods did not install

quasi moss
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Hi there! Sorry to pop in unexpectedly but is anyone else having issues with mod space? I still have over 300MB of space left but it is saying i don’t have any space left.

golden scaffold
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So after checking out the new creations layout in a fresh install on a new Xbox, it crashed, I reopened it, but now it’s back to the old layout of the mods but nothing is loading. Search isn’t working.

silver drum
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When I boot the game, it randomly disables 53 mods on its own. it claims they are not downloaded when I attempt to continue, I have to go into creations and force enable all creations then load the save and its still borked because the patches are out of order

cyan ivy
# split crescent Lucky you. 100 of my mods did not install

I pressed restore and didn't close that menu and just left it for ages, then pressed back and it was all there, bar one mod, it wasn't even too badly out of order, definitely better than manually reinstalling them all lol, but this whole thing has been a nightmare

split crescent
elfin jewel
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Yeah problem

It's happening alot more often now

Hell the problem was fixed with the old menu

quasi moss
split crescent
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Uninstall skyrim

quasi moss
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Okay i will try that, this has been such a headache

split crescent
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Play with legos instead. Idk man i think that's the first time ive seen persistent ghost space

quasi moss
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Me to actually

split crescent
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Wanna know how i found out you can go beyond 150 mods? Back before i wiped it i had 600+ mods in my library. The thing that shows your installed mods. Because the update decided any mod you have ever used will go there. Anyways i did that and hit the install all button and got past the 5gb and got to 171 mods

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So download your patches and dont install more then 251 esm files

light wasp
acoustic badge
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Anyone else not able to search with new creations update

split crescent
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Hit left bumper. You don't hit y/triangle anymore

acoustic badge
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I did. But it never shows results no matter what I type

split crescent
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Then you hit right trigger after when the words are in the bar

quasi moss
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elfin jewel
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I miss Patron
Now my inns and Carriages are too cheap in survival mode

split crescent
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Nah. Steam deck. Don't own a console. Got a deck and a gaming laptop.

split crescent
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Why you even using bethnet then?

elfin jewel
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Reinstalling skyrim
This better fix the issue

gentle owl
split crescent
split crescent
# gentle owl beth has pc mods aswell as console

Yeah but they are inferior in every way when you can just use a mod organizer on pc to just move your mods into a good load order. Theres also tools to download whole modlists without needing to do anything yourself. Plus skse and all the mods attached. Plus still 99% of mods are still on nexus and steam

gentle owl
split crescent
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Nexus is still where most of the mods are tbh even if modders are hating it because they cant ruin peoples load orders by pulling there mods off the website anymore

gentle owl
split crescent
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And that is against bethesda tos

gentle owl
split crescent
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Im all for tips and donations but dont hide your mod behind a paywall. If your good enough to make money off your mods make your own game like that one mod team did, or do what wardaddy and hyper do and do contract work for different studios

gentle owl
split crescent
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Bethesda started payed mods because they were hemeraging money

gentle owl
thorny lark
gentle owl
jagged canyon
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If any one of you are using a new version of the SKSE but still having troubles with mods due to crashing or missing textures these are the mods that aren’t updated:
X28 Skeleton Movement
Viokill Mod
JC Container
RaceMenu
TrueHUD
Open Animation Replacer
More to find soon.

nocturne lake
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I deleted some of em and still crash

gentle owl
thorny lark
jagged canyon
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I’m listing the broken mods so I won’t have to deal with the crashing. Since I just wanna go back to before all of this update.

gentle owl
thorny lark
gentle owl
thorny lark
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Nexus still is the main modding platform by FAR, what are you talking about? Most mods on patreon are animations or cosmetic things such as hairstyles and armors, which are free on there for the most part

thorny lark
nocturne lake
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Looks like Skyrim has officially fallen of it graces

gentle owl
thorny lark
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The new paid mods will never be anything extraordinary since they cannot rely on other assets/files anyway

warm osprey
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If I want install nolvus I have to Upgrade se again and nolvus downgraded it again or?

thorny lark
thorny lark
gentle owl
thorny lark
gentle owl
thorny lark
gentle owl
thorny lark
thorny lark
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Arthmoor is probably one of the top modders on the Nexus. Creator of USSEP, Alternate Start, Open Cities...

thorny lark
gentle owl
distant oracle
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Anyone else having issues trying to remove mods or trying to load them after the game crashes in the creation menu?

thorny lark
lapis vine
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Hey how do you see your LO now, i can't figure it out. Really none of the hotkeys work for me but either way???

thorny lark
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Honestly the donation point system isn't terrible, tho I only care about the viability of 1.5.97 in the future since I do not care for paid mods at all. I'm not interested in going into an argument about fair compensation and all that

gentle owl
distant oracle
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Wonder if a patch is coming anytime soon, almost a week and it don't work properly

thorny lark
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Nothing works properly, right now.

gentle owl
thorny lark
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Who has played the Enderal mod?

distant oracle
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I'm trying to disable my mods and remove them and hasn't worked in a few days now

thorny lark
nocturne lake
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i try to save and enter buildings or exit buildings and i crash

lean pine
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Any1 kno sm mods i should try after i finish my 100% plqytrough? Like im lookin for sm list for both visuals n game changes like gear n simmilar anythin tht could b fun t run , smthn t switch uo lots from vanilla

nocturne lake
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Guys run it with vortex it not crashing for me like that anymore

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idk i decided to close all mods and just run it with vortex then in the vortex run get the mods in creative store hopefully it wont crash like all that for me

split crescent
undone void
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Question, unrelated to recent nonsense. Does anyone know whether scroll spells and player spells share IDs or not? I suspect they're different but not sure. A mod that edits scroll spells won't conflict with a vanilla spell mod, will it?

polar fractal
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nah sorry, the scroll/spell is just a trigger, the same event is used for the spell effect(ususally)

undone void
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Unfortunate, but thank you

minor nebula
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This update is hell

spring oyster
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is it even worth using mods on playstation?

undone void
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Vanilla is so dated, and it doesn't take much to make the game feel and look better

static sedge
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The “update” is a huge downgrade tbh

jagged canyon
split crescent
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The best thing about this is the fact the 150 total mod cap is gone

frank sail
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Ugh this is an awful update crash after crash in mod menu, ghost space still rampant, can’t download a mod that’s 140mb as it says i don’t have space (I do) but can download several other mods that equal more than that?!

split crescent
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What mod you trying to install?

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Some mods might of gotten scuffed in the transfer. I know an armor mod i was using was lost because of it and now the file size is at 0kb aka empty

jagged canyon
# split crescent What mod you trying to install?

I didn’t install them but I had them previously installed before the updated dropped and during the maintenance I was playing the skse easily and nothing was going on. But Bethesda has to drop this and broke couple of mods.

split crescent
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Well with the skse update mods relying on it need to update too

Thats the extent of my knowledge on pc modding outside of Morrowind. I can do manual installation on Morrowind lol

frank sail
split crescent
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Oh I was downloading that one just fine

frank sail
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Yeah I have no idea why it’s happening but what can ya do

tame trout
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The new Creation Club on PC is great. Worth the wait for the update. Played it the whole day, if anyone here knows where I can find Dovahkiin Relax mod would be nice, all I got at Creation Club is P.A.M.I. as alternative.

undone void
surreal igloo
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Skyrim is unplayable on console with the mod menu bugging & glitching 🙄

deep kernel
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are mods fixed yet or nah

frank sail
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And the save LO feature positively does not work, saved about 15 out of my 120, and will not restore the rest.

split crescent
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Yup

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Actually if you hit the download all creations thing its more reliable. But you can get even better results by starting a playthrough with your mod list and then using that as your backup

frank sail
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Just spent hours re doing my LO after having to wipe it, saved my LO so I could wipe reserved space to get rid, aaaaand it’s gone.

@split crescent will try the save method now as I made a new game with the mods installed

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Lol it crashed instantly when I tried to load the save

@surreal igloo Xbox

surreal igloo
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On PC or Console?

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Well, bethesda needs to fix this issue immediately

frank sail
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Yeah I mean I wish there was a way to send a clear message to anyone at the company who would listen that this update is absolutely heinous

surreal igloo
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Yeah no 💩

thorny lark
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wheres the best spot to find stable xbox LO? i suck at making them lol

surreal igloo
frank sail
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Nowhere mate the update has shat the bed, good luck having a stable play through at the moment

thorny lark
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more issues finding them than anything, im newer to modding and wanna do LOTD LO since my old one got sacked

surreal igloo
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I'm not gonna play it until they fix this

final thicket
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W Update everybody? No, No? thought so.

split crescent
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Oh

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Idk

steady urchin
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen lately. What an absolute fumble.

chrome cypress
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@real sphinx apologize for the ping but now that the load orders can be backed up. What would the next step or challenge be in expanding the mod storage cap / space.
Also purely for personal understanding does the game files partition work the same way or similar to a pc windows installation partition.

frank sail
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I can wholeheartedly say the mod backup does not work as intended, from personal experience, but even still an increase would soften the blow of this heinous update

split crescent
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Yes. Number 4 to figure that out

frank sail
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Shush

split crescent
#

Every time insee your name i think of Brett "The Hitman" Heart

frank sail
#

It was meant to be like ricky hitman hatton but i’ll take it lmao

split crescent
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Lol i figured it wasnt since boxer and the one im referring to is a wrestler

violet crown
#

Why do certain mods start downloading on the Xbox mod page, and when it gets to the last part it stops and resets the download.

quiet jasper
#

Thanks to all the modders who are updating their mods for the patch 🥺 rlly appreciated! even if it takes a while ^^

celest aspen
#

Everyone still mad?

cobalt sluice
#

What do you think?

celest aspen
#

I'd like to believe that at some point over the last 10 hours the rage subsided, then came back, subsided again and now is setting in the long misery that is the normalcy of life.

cobalt sluice
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Until Bethesda fixes everything, we're going to be forever mad at them. They cannot bribe us to stop being mad by giving us new content.

timid gorge
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Mad until dead then

celest aspen
#

That, or hot pockets. But those are more like hot fury with an icy cold center leading to depression because you ate a hot pocket

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Sorry, I know I'm not funny. I'm just checking in on ya'll cuz blood was up and up and up

cobalt sluice
celest aspen
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I've made some mods in skyrim and Fallout 4, and did some test work for some bigger mods. I was working on a thing for starfield to make pilotable mechs. Made some mods for old doom, xcom, mechwarrior 5, and did some work on a few older games. Stopped generally modding a few months back and mostly miss it. Nothing really noteworthy shared openly. Just mostly share things with friends in a different discord who appreciate a good joke or two

chrome cypress
shrewd otter
#

love that y'all released an update that did essentially nothing and broke my game 👍

split crescent
# chrome cypress I'd take a 500 mod limit with 25 gigs of reserved space 🙂 I'd forgive them. Hel...

People installing 500 mods is why we got the 150 limit to begin with. Skyrim has a hard limit of 251 esp files. Even on pc its hard to get around this. Its why a lot of small mods mark themselves as esl as esl files have a greater limit on the number they can have and they doubled it this update

Past 251 esp files and problems start happening since its an engine limitation and can be gotten around with bundles on console and pc has a different way of doing it where it basically tricks the game into thinking certian sets of mods are only a single esp or whatever

acoustic badge
#

Anyone have issues downloading bruma from creations.

Every time I try to download the 2nd part (the 3 gb one) it gets like 60% done then fails

nocturne lake
#

I ran my stuff on vortex and it worked no more crashes

zealous spruce
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All of my saves are corrupted…VBThumbsDown

split crescent
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Yay See they corrupt all your saves and then tbey can justify upgrading the storage

zealous spruce
#

Silverhand was right, these corporations gotta go. 😡

split crescent
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Lol, But then we will have no products to consume and id be terribly bored

signal bridge
#

where do you guys go to see if anyone's interested in a mod you're developing?

polar fractal
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you gotta do it for the love of the game

chilly prism
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Or if you enjoy challenging yourself.

floral cape
polar fractal
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"the game" being modding, not necessarily skyrim :p

split crescent
chilly prism
hollow jetty
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Did skyrim visuals get updated with this update on consoles

split crescent
hollow jetty
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@split crescent yeah I know I just read the patch notes. But what they did do is put in a system that makes sure all mods are running apparently before some mods wouldn't run without the person knowing on consoles that's probably the difference I see

buoyant pebble
#

Does anyone know how to restore mods through a save with mods? I learned that now it is possible

cold trout
#

is it up?

whole finch
#

Unfortunately

forest robin
# chrome cypress I'd take a 500 mod limit with 25 gigs of reserved space 🙂 I'd forgive them. Hel...

I'd even be fine with 10 GB space my game already looks great with 5gb / 150 mods but what I'm missing is

  • npc replacer
  • animal replacer
  • some area mods like falskaar

I had to say goodbye to game of thrones dragons since the ussep increased size by 70mb or so or would also love to get mods like diverse dragons, upgrade my northern roads from 1k (and other mods) to higher resolutions

10 gb would be enough tbh but with 5 you're too limited
And 150 mod cap with mods like lux, lux orbis, lux via, northern roads, jks skyrim aio / jks interiors aio that require a million patches
I think I don't need to tell you the point here...

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Also is there any chance mods like skyclimb are ported to xbox?

whole finch
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Certainly not, it uses SKSE and has a variety of additional dependencies. Plus it's too good of a mod, Bethesda wouldn't dare include that... To think I wanted to work for Bethesda when I was little

modern nacelle
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how do i delete my mods outside of the creation menu on xbox

whole finch
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On Xbox, I think creation menu is the only way

modern nacelle
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well thats great cause my creation menu doesnt even work

eternal umbra
#

Are we not able to save mods as drafts anymore on bethnet? Saw someone asked on reddit as well and didn't receive a response. I've got some half finished mods I don't wanna be forced to publish

drifting stump
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I downgraded my game version from 1.6.1130 to 1.640. I also deleted the newly arrived ResourcePack files and MarketplaceTextures file. I cleaned up the new files using xEdit. I used the LOOT. Despite everything, I get CTD at the entrance to the game. Anyone have any ideas? Where am I making a mistake?

thorny lark
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Welp this sucks… my ui mod won’t let me into my LO

thorny lark
modern spruce
#

not really digging this new mod menu system on pc atleast

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they just made it harder to find good mods

summer timber
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I've been having a better time with the search feature on this menu rather than the old one tbh

warm osprey
drifting stump
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I discovered that the problem is due to the mods, but I won't be able to find out which of the 600 mods will be the problem, so I guess I'll have to reinstall all the mods one by one

warm osprey
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I wanted downgrade to version 1.640 but I manged only to downgrade to 1.5 😅

eternal umbra
warm osprey
drifting stump
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"Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Downgrade Patcher" on Nexusmods You can find the answer you are looking for in the POSTS section of the " mode.

warm osprey
drifting stump
warm osprey
drifting stump
#

Open a command window "Run" by pressing Win + R and then enter the command: steam://open/console, and then press Enter

warm osprey
warm osprey
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Can i install nolvus and than downgrade to Version 1.5 or I have to downgrade to Version 1.640? And can I play skyrim during the installion?

drifting stump
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I think Nolvus is for Skyrim AE

tranquil agate
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Are all UI mods not compatible with the new update?

warm osprey
summer timber
tranquil agate
summer timber
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Unsure about that, but the reason UI mods don't work is because they conflict with the new creations menu

thorny lark
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Ahh I was gonna ask which mods…😭

frank sail
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Bleak HUD does work for xbox

stuck ermine
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Im playing AE on ps5 and since the new update my loading screens are very long and also when im going on Menu kann somebody help ?

hollow jetty
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@stuck ermine I'm on PS5 as well this is not happening to me must be the mods you have because my loading screens haven't changed it could be the amount of mods you have

stuck ermine
hollow jetty
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@stuck ermine weird I don't know try reinstalling then maybe that will help

stuck ermine
hollow jetty
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@stuck ermine also do you have creation club content installed if so make sure you updated it I only ask because you said your playing on AE

stuck ermine
hollow jetty
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@stuck ermine you have to go into creations and there a category for update you need to updat all creation club content

stuck ermine
hollow jetty
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@stuck ermine ok

white sluice
stuck ermine
hollow jetty
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@stuck ermine sorry yeah I don't know what it is then

stuck ermine
long elm
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Does anybody else also have the problem, since the latest update, that the game crashes as you scroll through your load order in Creations? It’s so annoying 😩

summer timber
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yeah, I've had that issue

mystic geode
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Yeah I had that as well, it's a pain. I haven't found a solution though

quartz trellis
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Hey guys, anyone else having problems with the creations tab? Ill start to download my mods and then the game will crash and when i to back to creations its just a loading screen. Iv uninstalled 2 times now and the same thing keeps happening. Any ideas how to fix?

split crescent
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I love when i download a mod and for some reason it shoves itself anywhere it wants while also not actually getting rid of the mod i deleted and showing both for some reason

#

Ok i need to wipe my mods again this isnt fockij working

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Yay i love doing the same thing over and over again since Tuesday

steady igloo
#

I heard mod authors are taking down their mods in protest?

thorny lark
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Some. But it won't do anything

steady igloo
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I'm not going to take down all 26 mods I have because I spent too much time on them. It seems pointless if nothing is going to happen.

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Btw, SteamDB shows that they are working on another update, it's probs bug fixes.

modern crypt
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I'd say they couldn't make things worse but I have a feeling it's just gonna make more bugs

steady igloo
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Even though I was disappointed on day one, I still have faith that they'll fix this somehow. Who knows, they may also add more modder's resources.

The resources are something I NEED now.

modern crypt
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More modding resources doesn't sound bad actually sounds pretty helpful least in the long run for modders and mod enjoyers alike but one can hope another update doesn't cause any other problems

chilly prism
#

Additional Modders Resources that Bethesda adds w game and CK updates means Modders can create “new” content for PlayStation users 🤯

junior sinew
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Is anyone else having issues with mods not staying installed to your load order? (Xbox series X) some mods I install, like the USSEP, character class overhaul, interior lightings, etc will let me download them to my load order like normal, but when I close out of creations and go back into creations or start a new character and check my downloaded creations they are disappearing from my downloaded creations/ content. When I go back to the creations/mod page and look for those same mods it’s acting as if I never installed them and have to redownloaded them over and over.

gentle owl
gentle owl
modern crypt
quartz trellis
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Hey guys, I need some help. Does anyone else have an issue with the creations not loading at all

gentle owl
quartz trellis
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Are you on PC? If so it might be moved to just using nexus

gentle owl
quartz trellis
forest robin
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I might be getting a pc so could anyone give me a crashcourse on nexusmods pls?
Like

  • what about whole modpacks?
  • (if there are modpacks, could you download other mods too or are you restricted to that pack then? Cause there are mods I CAN'T play without them)
  • and could anyone send me a screenshot of how pc modding would look like? Like not ingame just the menu etc
quartz trellis
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I have it on PC too, gimme a min and il send you what i use

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@forest robin I use "vortex" with nexus its really good and straight forward

gentle owl
forest robin
quartz trellis
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@gentle owl welp I have uninstalled a few times but its installed now, ig I'll just wait. @forest robin its not a mod pack its a mod organizer. It places things where they go so you don't get any bugs but it is a way to get mod packs

forest robin
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Oh nice so I don't need to worry bout load orders I just need to install mods (and just make sure I get the right patches and compatible mods)

quartz trellis
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Yea, its been a life saver for me

forest robin
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That definitely helps alot thx mate
I thought modding on pc is much more complex

quartz trellis
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I also have really large mod packs installed on it and the only thing i havent been able to figure out is "SKY UI" and "Immersive citizens overhaul"

harsh oak
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does anyone else’s load order keep getting shuffled around without input ?

forest robin
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Anyways thx for the vortex tip I'll look for some good graphics mod packs @quartz trellis
Any recommendations? Heard parallax or what it's called is pretty realistic and great

tranquil agate
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Im really struggling to get Skyrim AE to work. Could someone help me.

I removed most of my mods and left a few. So my remaining mods are SKYUI, address library, unnofficial patch, mcm helper, TrueHUD alternate start, sky shards and ordinator.

The issue is whether I use mod organiser or vortex, Skyrim won’t even open. Sometimes I get the message “couldn’t find SkyrimSE.exe”

I’m really confused and I’ve been told the mods I have work with the new update. Does anyone know why this could be happening?

modern nacelle
quartz trellis
north crown
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Hello, one question is there a mod that makes the body look more muscular?

errant narwhal
#

Is anyone creation page look weird

north crown
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I'm looking for it for my character to make him look more muscular

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I'm looking for a mod for Skyrim Anniversary PS4 where my character looks more muscular?

silver drum
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@north crown unfortunatly thats not going to be possible other then maybe a setscale (make you bigger height wise) given that PS4/PS5 cannot have external assets (like meshes and textures that are required for body replacement mods)

gentle owl
gentle owl
errant narwhal
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Never mind

#

I had to delete my saved data

marble root
tranquil agate
gentle owl
strange ridge
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Do anyone have a mod pack for Skyrim PS4 to share I really need immersive game to do on my off time

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Is so pls send me a message

untold dragon
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Does somebody knows when the creation content manifest files load in the "creation" folder in the game directory?

tranquil agate
cyan ivy
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Warning, do not install two different versions of the same mod, for example if you have a 2k texture and want to swap it out for 1k, make sure you delete the one you already have first or it messes up and will always try to have both installed. I wanted to test embers XD so installed it, then noticed the magical forces bundle, so installed that, intending to delete the embers XD I just installed, then it glitched, can't use either now lol (magical forces uses the same file name as embers XD so the patches work with it)

grizzled torrent
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This has been known since 2016. It is remnant data. Skyrim players have called it "ghost" space.

cyan ivy
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I've never had this happen before, I've swapped around 2k/1k versions before without any issues, but now I can't use embers XD or magical forces because trying to install one causes both of them to appear

marble root
cyan ivy
marble root
grizzled torrent
tranquil agate
grizzled torrent
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Bethesda.net seems to be connected to the load order so I'd go in and clear things up on the website to make sure you've got everything cleaned up. When the community forums first landed, they had a similar issue for PlayStation players where there would be mods in the library and the game still reading them since they don't have a reserve space to clear.

harsh oak
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is anybody else’s search, category list, or load order feature straight-up not working? i press the correct buttons but nothing comes up

cyan ivy
grizzled torrent
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Search was working for me yesterday. Load order feature is weird. Sorting is interesting.

harsh oak
deep kernel
#

does the crash still happen when you load creation list

grizzled torrent
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They've also got hit with a lot of people downloading. I think they had a burp or two today because of it. Have you tried letting the device rest for a bit? Also, if you're on Series, don't let the Quick Resume feature have priority. Load from a game that's been shut down properly.

north crown
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Are there UNP mods for the ps4 skyrim anniversary

gloomy leaf
split crescent
#

Universal Nubbins Property
Unadulterated Necklace Puppy

steady hamlet
#

Hi everyone, I'm on an xbox series x and I was able to look at my load order this morning and maneuver around on Creations (search mods, check load order and so on). But suddenly I'm unable to do anything but click in and out of Creations. Like every button I hit except the back button isn't working. I realize there is probably an update that needs to happen but I was curious if anyone else is experiencing this on xbox?

split crescent
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Oh cool a new problem! Yay~

drowsy swallow
shrewd marlin
#

Does anyone know how the Save LO to and Restore LO from Bethnet function works on PS?
Can I save multiple LOs?

I have mods in my LO which have since been removed from Bethnet – will those mods be restored if I save my LO to bethnet and restore it later?

pure otter
gentle owl
pure otter
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If neither works, try clearing your browser cache.

steady igloo
red cove
#

So like. Any word on them fixing the other bugs like my library being broken and bookmarks not all showing up

steady igloo
floral cape
gentle owl
gentle owl
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i dont think the problem is on the mod side (other than ui) i think there could be a always online sytem being used,when i tried loading a saved file it said it was corrupted brcause it couldnt connect to beth.net

strange egret
#

Hey I just modded my game and I'm using Vortex. Since then I haven't been able to Sync the game. How do I determine which mod is causing issues?

elfin jewel
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Good news everyone

Deleting the game and reinstalling didn't fix my ghost space issue

I'm out 400mb of my 5gb
Thx bethesda

steady hamlet
drowsy swallow
# steady hamlet i did!

Thatll be it im afraid, they aren’t compatible with the new creations menu ;(( makes it so you cant do anything in creations afaik

steady hamlet
drowsy swallow
steady hamlet
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smart! thank you so much, I appreciate you help with that. haha back to modding

drowsy swallow
quartz trellis
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Can anyone help me with this, m creations tab crashes after abt 5 mins of being on it. Then it won't let me load it back up unless I unistall the game and reinstall it. But then it crashes again, any help would be appreciated!! (Xbox)

drowsy swallow
quartz trellis
drowsy swallow
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not that im aware of ://

random dagger
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And how do so-called "Creations" now differ from ordinary player-made Mods? Or is this just a case of Bethesda trying to monetize things that have previously been free?

quartz trellis
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Creations are paid, mods arent

elfin jewel
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Gooder news everyone
In trying to fix my 400mb ghost space bug I have

Cleared reserved space twice
Uninstalled and reinstalled the game
Deleted my save files
Deleted persistent storage
Cleared my cache

And none of these have worked
I assume this happened after a booked update of ussep

Bethesda mods you better see this

I can't do anymore to get my lost 400mb back

Please actually fix this

drowsy swallow
shrewd marlin
midnight gate
#

Are there any mods that give a new option like how you can be a werewolf or vampire is there mods that add new paths

gentle owl
random dagger
#

It is still mighty confusing to see the paid creations (which CANNOT be disabled, and are permanently at the top of the Load Order as "Creation Club") all among the same categories as the free mods (which CAN be disabled).

I believe the old system which kept the two categories separate, was better.

Also: A couple of mods appear to be in my "library" that have now been superseded by others, but I can't delete them from my "library". Example: The unofficial "Updated Creation Club Content" - which was invented especially to stop all Creation Club Quests starting at once, instead tying them to various in-game events or the reading of notes that were scattered around the game - is now superseded by the fact that, in the Anniversary Edition, all these Creation Club quests now indeed do start organically like that. (In fact I suspect what's happened is that all the proposed changes were officially adopted and became part of the standard versions of these Creations.)

I am unable to DELETE these: there is no DELETE option, even though they are not downloaded. If I download, I can then "disable" and "enable" (keep it on my computer, but stop it working) and/or "delete" (remove from my actual computer) but there is no way to delete them from my LIBRARY. How do I do this?

drowsy swallow
gentle owl
random dagger
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also... there are so many mods... that the lists are just too short to list them all, even in the "View All" view. Like, one of my mods is a small free home in Winterhold hold, "Underhearth: A Winterhold Home". But, because it begins with U, it doesn't get to show in the alphabetical viewing - which, in the main screen, barely gets further than the A's, and even the "view all" screen basically gets most of the way through the D's.

drowsy swallow
elfin jewel
gentle owl
drowsy swallow
elfin jewel
drowsy swallow
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Really? strange, I thought I had ghost space (which I didnt have before the update) and reinstalled skyrim after getting the same issue. Maybe the play now is to download mods in order of file size if that is the case

gentle owl
elfin jewel
gentle owl
elfin jewel
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I was referring to me

random dagger
#

Another thing:

Among the mods I have, some of them seem to require SKSE or SkyUI for their full functionality. But these are not available on Bethesda. I can get them via Steam, or via Nexus (and which of these versions is the most likely to be up to date, or to even function with the latest Skyrim update)?

And, for a couple of others, Bethesda has only an older version: the one on NexusMods is the one that is up to date.

How does all this interact when I am likely to need to use multiple different sources to actually load in mods? How does load order even work under these circumstances? Can this be explained in THE VERY SIMPLEST OF SIMPLE TERMS as if talking to a novice?

grizzled torrent
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The simplest solution is to wait until the mods are fully updated to the current version of the game. SKSE is updated but not everything else is. Things are still in a bit of a state of flux seeing as the update only happened a few days ago. Give things a week or two. It is holiday season in many countries as well which may set back the update schedule for many. On NexusMods, you can track a mod for updates.

Another thing you could do is put in a request with the mod author to update the version on Bethesda or ask if they don't mind someone porting the updated version. You would then find someone to port it for you and be sure to tell them to contact the author to finalize the arrangements because the mod author must display the name of the porter in either the comments section or on the description of the mod for it to be considered a legal port to Bethesda.

pearl crystal
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is creation down for other people?

split crescent
pearl crystal
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Its theee old version i just got donee moding the game

split crescent
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Then you're gonna need to wipe your load order. Whatever ui you used is incompatible with the new creations menu

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People have noticed some other mods other then ui mods doing this too so be careful. Use only the new Nordic Ui or elden scrolls ui that say updated till more get updated or made

pearl crystal
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i guess elden ring ui messed with it

split crescent
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Yeah there is a new ui called

Elden Scrolls Ui (Updated)

Use it instead

faint acorn
#

oh so the newly updated ones work? maybe they just needed to remove the UI updates to the creations and mod menu

split crescent
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Lol its more that they changed the main menu and changed the ui and code completely for how mods and cc are displayed

pearl crystal
#

ok do i need a cbbe enchancher mod for buxtom body mesh?

long dove
#

Is the Bethesda.net site still undergoing maintenance or did Bethesda finish that already?

thorny lark
#

Accidentally installed a UI mod on Xbox

split crescent
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If it isnt one of the updated ones and your still on the creations menu. Remove it

split crescent
long dove
#

Hopefully they fix it soon I need my modded Skyrim fix.

split crescent
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The 150 mod cap on consoles has been removed. At least on xbox. As thats where i am with iver 200 mods installed. Half of them patches but still

thorny lark
split crescent
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Just do not go over 251 mods or any problems are your own fault

pure oriole
#

Question does anyone know how to install the legacy of the Dragonborn for mo2

hollow jetty
#

Anyone know why brynjolf won't interact with me I can't start the thieves guild quest line

grizzled torrent
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Please specify the platform you’re playing on and let us know what mods you’re playing with.

hollow jetty
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@grizzled torrent it's ps5 it's going to take awhile to list all my mods

grizzled torrent
tender summit
#

Is it just me or did this update take the dawnstar chest next to the mine away?

jagged canyon
#

How do I downgrade Skyrim from the current version since the mod authors of other popular mods aren’t gonna be updated for awhile.

twin iron
#

keepmodsfree

forest robin
hollow jetty
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@twin iron there's literally like only 4 payed mods it's not bad

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@twin iron and it's up to the mod author's Bethesda isn't forcing anyone to make them payable

forest robin
#

Does anyone know a good sword / katana mod for like spellsword/blade

whole ice
celest aspen
hollow jetty
#

@celest aspen oh I know but I think there's a lot of anger for nothing considering nobody is forcing someone to create paid mods. The modders have all the power here. They don't have to monetize their mods.

prisma merlin
#

Does anyone know why is it that i'm downloading 2 mods at once, when i only ever selected one?
For Context: the mods in question are Amazing Follower Tweaks and Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks.
I do NOT want Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks but the game keeps downloading it, no matter how many times i delete it. It also keeps making my game crash when I back out of Creations to reload my Mod Load Order. It also forces me to lose connection to the bethesda servers for a time.
I honestly just want Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks mod to be delisted or something, so this can stop.

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Im also on XBOX btw

celest aspen
#

Until they're required mods? Think of how the CC content ended up playing out.

For me, I'm mostly underwhelmed and unsurprised by them. The worst part is that not only are these mods going to require patches, but are misleading, even of lesser quality than unpaid mods. And these mods are by people who now work for bethesda. Moreover the profit share is so bad that it makes nexus' model look almost good.

celest aspen
#

Let's not forget about mod exclusivity

summer timber
silver drum
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@prisma merlin @summer timber check if both variants are in your library

summer timber
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they are not

silver drum
#

I had the same issue with CBBE, and it was because both were in my libary. The workaround for me was, go on bethesda.net and remove one assuring only the one I wanted was present. Then wiping reserved space, and using the load order menu "download all creations" option from a vanilla reboot

west halo
#

I have HUGE problems with my load order on Xbox series.
I can't install anything, can't even search anything. When I manage to install something it disappears instantly when I return to my load order.
Anyone else?

naive umbra
#

I came to share with you my experience with this new update on Xbox in relation to mods, which might help you.

  1. Go to the Bethesda website and leave only the mods you will actually use in your favorites and in your library, I recommend removing the rest from your list to make the process easier.

  2. Download all the mods one by one, you probably won't find all of them in the Creation Club library, so you'll probably have to search for the ones that aren't there one by one. I recommend using a cell phone together to identify those who are missing.

  3. Download all Mods before organizing the loading order, as the probability of messing up this order is high if you install a new mod. Generating bugs and game crashes.

  4. I recommend creating a new game. Unfortunately, the Update hurt the game a lot. When I reloaded my old save, it messed up the order of the mods, causing a bug in the game.

mystic cove
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Has anyone tried to use CompactGUI (or any transparent compression method) with mods folder?

Will it mess with MO2 or am I fine compressing it?

nocturne lake
#

do mods work now?

grim hawk
#

Also why can't I change the settings in game ? Like the difficulty and all keeps resetting all the time... I had to change it manually in the SkyrimPref.ini

Also some saves I deleted long ago keep reappearing now...

Anyone know how to fix ?

split crescent
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Some times my own settings reset on console so i just fix it on load. Normally happens to me when a new mod comes on and the game bugs and resets everything to default

split crescent
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I love crashing to my xbox home every time i wanna scroll through my installed mods to reorganize it

dense stream
split crescent
dense stream
#

On xbox? I thought there was a cap of 200.

split crescent
#

Nope. Not 200. It was assumed to be 200 but im well over it

dense stream
#

Was it crashing before the update too, or were you using alot of mods and it was running fine?

split crescent
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My crashes are not with the game running. Or anything like that, it is exclusive to when im in the load order screen. The screen where you actually do the load order organization

dense stream
#

Then it could be because of how many you have with the new layout. I had around 120 and cut down by like 100 and mine runs fine and doesn't crash in the menu.

split crescent
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Any time I try to scroll down my list of mods there is a 80% chance of crashing to the xbox homescreen. Pre update it didnt happen. All that would happen with 150 mods was the bottom half of my list just did not load the preview images

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The extra 57 mods i have installed are patches and small tweaks that used to be part of packs but those packs are not accessible thanks to being unable to see wip mods

drowsy swallow
#

Anyone got advice on how to stop my load order from randomly reorganising itself?

split crescent
#

You shoot you xbox with a pipe rifle

drowsy swallow
split crescent
#

Sacrifice a virgin to it.

Prey to godhward

Write down your load order. Wipe the list and download it in order so it does not have a chance to order itself

drowsy swallow
buoyant pebble
#

My unoficial patch literally gone lol, but all mods that nedeed that is working... Wtf

split crescent
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Idk. I have yet to see this issue. But i also like to download enough mods the mod menu says screw you and sends me to desktop/xbox home

buoyant pebble
#

I added 152 mods, organized everything, but the game disorganized everything by itself, but as incredible as it may seem, the game is running smoothly (xbox series s) I have very heavy mods, 4 hours playing and it didn't crash wtf

split crescent
#

Idk maybe load orders dont matter anymore

grizzled torrent
#

Nothing has changed with the way mods are created internally.

buoyant pebble
#

It matters because depending on the order, it changes another mod, I had to change the order a few times for the Spartan Replacer mod to work with total armory, but the game is running at 60fps, I don't understand

grizzled torrent
#

It is only the in-game manager that has changed. Whatever is below will override above.

buoyant pebble
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60 fps fixed, without any drops, and before the update, there were several drops due to the mods and look, my load order was organized, now everything is messed up and it's better... Like???

jolly geyser
split crescent
#

Why would you go to 278? The engine cant handle anything beyond 251. Unless 27 mods were esl marked

jolly geyser
#

My game ran fine, but the menu did not

split crescent
#

Yeah thats my problem at 209 the load order menu just crashes the game half the time

prisma merlin
jolly geyser
#

Yeah I was really excited to have all that mod fluff but now I can barely even delete it. And with the memory of a goldfish that I was given I have no idea what I downloaded two days ago

thorny lark
#

Creation kit fixed yet? cant get mine to launch properly 🏃🏾‍♂️

jagged inlet
#

Hi, is anyone using the "Unofficial creation kit patch" from nexusmods? Is it still valid for the latest creation kit update?

buoyant pebble
#

Is anyone able to get into creation? Says there's a communication failure

inner jetty
thorny lark
#

yea that's prolly it. i'll see to it immediately. thanks.

shrewd flare
#

I wonder how long it's gonna be before they ruin fallout 4

floral cape
frail magnet
#

Do consoles support ESP files with the ESL flag?

chilly prism
#

Yes

frail magnet
rotund parrot
#

keep mods free

shrewd flare
#

I'm all for paid if it's actually good stuff I'm buying lol

tepid mural
pearl dew
#

Anyone had issues with blackthorn on xbox?

gentle owl
gentle owl
wispy tree
#

I'm sorry to bother you guys. Is there any good PS mods for Lakeview Manor? I saw the Peaceful mod and 1 other but that's it

visual edge
#

Is there any trick to not having the game crash on Xbox when scrolling through the load order menu... I've finished organizing all the upper mods but very frequently when I'm scrolling toward the bottom it'll freeze and crash to the dashboard on me.

mental moat
#

Don’t know if it’s been asked before and I have a screen shot to go with it, but my “creations” menu is only showing one mod needing an update, a wide expanded image of it and nothing else. Showing load order shows my mods installed, also with wide expanded images. Is there a fix for this?

mortal needle
#

Any PlayStation players game crashing when they open the new mod menu

spring oyster
#

I've found adding a few mods at a time seems to work for console, instead of downloading an entire load order.

mortal needle
#

I mean like I can’t open it with it crashing, like the title for all the mods will load but the images won’t the I the game just crashes

drifting garden
#

Anyone have any idea what kind of new “modder resources” bethesda is providing?

spring oyster
jagged inlet
#

Did anyone port anything on xbox already after the latest update? I got some .bsa to be uploaded, having same name as the loaded .esp, but can't figure out how to make the CK detect them when uploading

formal onyx
crimson smelt
#

So basically......the update was so they could milk another 30$ out of the fan base?

#

Also anyone have problems with the update crashing your "creations" menu, or outright uninstalling mods that don't violate the tos?

#

The new layout is super confusing, yeah I know there's controls at the bottom to tell you where stuff is, but by god I hope they don't do this garbage to fallout 4....it's buggier than ever now...

drifting garden
crimson smelt
drifting garden
formal onyx
drifting garden
#

I’m a ps4 user so any new assets and scripts are welcome. Wish I could mod

crimson smelt
formal onyx
# drifting garden Afforestation magic? Love that mod

Yes. I will add "Lily Pads" in the next update. These have been postponed from this update in order to figure out a better way to place objects on the water surface. There are three Lily Pad flowers with three color variations and one with large leaves.

drifting garden
#

Such a shame that recoloring weapons sucks for the ps4.

drifting garden
jagged inlet
crimson smelt
median shard
pure beacon
steady igloo
tepid mural
steady igloo
#

I think they removed the plugin cap, btw

formal onyx
celest aspen
#

Has anyone bought EEE? If so, how big is it (file size wise)

stone bay
#

29.76 MB

earnest bloom
#

I've been hearing from various players that the 150 plugin limit seems to have been lifted on xbox.

Wondering what anyone has heard about this. I'm inclined to think it a mistake or accident since it's mentioned nowhere I can find regarding the recent update.

Did they enable .esl functionality on xbox or something? That's about the only thing I can think of if it wasn't a deliberate change to the limit.

Edit: Just saw the above comments...

cold widget
#

So, now we want the 2GB restriction to be increased for Fallout 4. That is way to low, especially since FO4 is more stable then Skyrim.

lilac heart
#

is mo2 having issues once i got mods installed after i booted game all the masters and cc content was gone

cyan ivy
#

If the 150 limit being gone wasn't intended they should leave it and pretend it was

jagged inlet
#

No bother @pure beacon 🙂

summer timber
#

Ugh, found a load order for xbox that looks super great, but it turns out it is ridiculously unstable! Does anyone have a load order that features epoch while also having good graphics?

thorny lark
#

@formal onyx looks like a base modders can use and isnt meant to be used on its own

#

when is bethesda releasing an update to fix the Load Order bugging out and changing itself and UI issue

median shard
#

the UI issue is probably never getting "fixed." UI mods just need to be updated to work with the new one.

thorny lark
#

i understand UI mods but they need to resolve the LO issue where mods are over the place randomly

split crescent
summer timber
#

huge landscape/city/building mod

eternal umbra
#

I've spent 2 hours unfavoriting and unsubscribing to 2200 mods.

Why. Just. Why.

north current
#

will this be the last update or should we just stop playing modded skyrim

chrome cypress
viral swallow
#

not sure why the content of the recent update makes you confident that that can be done but good luck i gueds

chrome cypress
# viral swallow not sure why the content of the recent update makes you confident that that can ...

Well the biggest issue continually given why they couldn't was it would break load orders and losing the load order would break saves. It was saved in the same partition. Every save now saves and can re-download mods uses in that save as well as you can back up load orders to betheda.net a different partition. Thus if they do that yeah you jusy have to hit download load order or yes when loading a save and it's not broken and ya good with more space. That's based on what ik from the little they have said. At the very least I want a reasoning why they can't

#

No rollback needed the update helps make the space and cap Increase possible in theory

#

Some people I think are calling for them to rollback the update because they don't like it. Asides the crashing and ui mods breaking I get a more stable game, better searching overall, cleaner controls that make it less likely to download a mod accidentally, saveable load orders great for clearing ghost space

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Like it's not that bad ppl just mad they load orders broken but overall it's an improvement. No longer typing in jk's skyrim aio and scrolling to the end to find exactly what was searched

cyan ivy
#

I would like for my mods to stop changing order, disabling and deleting themsleves, there better be fixes on the way

chrome cypress
#

Oh no you get the full 5 gigs of space of you get ghost space save the load order wait about 5 minutes then clear reserved space re-download you will have to reorganize but helps

thorny lark
#

so, for USSEP on xbox i have the updated version and need to backtrack it to nonupdated so i have the MBs i need for the LO is this possible?

cyan ivy
#

Welp, looks like the restore load order feature failed me and only saved 3 of my 140 something mods lol, looks like I'm reinstalling them all the old fashioned way

cyan ivy
#

Lol, I used the download all mods from library thing, mostly worked ok, but now I can't put anything in order because every time I move something it just resets itself when I press back, I think I'm done with this nonsense, was excited to play Skyrim again after 3 years, guess it wasn't meant to be

earnest bloom
vast edge
#

Anyone having trouble connecting to the creation tab in skyrim im on xbox btw

thorny lark
#

ah alr

eternal umbra
#

So how do we push updates through? All my drafts are not updating on the Xbox end.

grizzled torrent
jagged inlet
#

Anyone having troubles uploading .esp files for xbox? I have tons of warnings when uploading the .esp and the ck crashes...without any specific reason

vocal valve
#

I have a sudden orange door problem on a modded house and i tried rearranging my load order, disabling certain texture mods, etc and its not gone!

storm bay
storm bay
vocal valve
#

I had this mod a while ago and had no issue and i dont think it has been updated. its the Niflholm mod and ill be sad if i cant fix this problem because its my favorite modded house

storm bay
vocal valve
#

Oh okay thank you!

torn fiber
#

🤔

gentle owl
jagged inlet
storm bay
jagged inlet
median shard
jagged inlet
#

oh alright, I might have mispelled the name yesterday 🙂 thank you!

storm bay
#

@jagged inlet forgot to mention about the lowercase x in _xbox, I assumed you knew, 🙂

jagged inlet
#

Yeah I do 🙂 now i am simply stuck. I was going to port the newest version of lux, since I believe basspainter is away from modding.

storm bay
grizzled torrent
# gentle owl i dont have the tab game content

Submit a ticket to Bethesda. They can help you further. https://help.bethesda.net

All I know is that the Creations menu will not show up if the Settings on the Xbox account does not say "Everybody". To access your Xbox settings hit the Home button in the middle of the controller to bring up the menu and scroll over to the last option. You can access the settings from there. Or you can access them from the Xbox app or the home screen/desktop on Xbox. On the Xbox desktop/home screen, scroll up to the top of the screen and press A on your gamertag icon. Find settings and find account. https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/hardware-network/settings-updates/system-settings

thorny lark
#

So like, have we figured out how to combat the mods reinstalling themselves and moving in the load order problem or do I need to delete my storage and install all my mods for the 5th time because Bethesda is one of the most incompetent gaming company I know?

gentle owl
jagged inlet
storm bay
thorny lark
#

are there any mods that tell me what can be done in cities?

frail magnet
#

Is there any way to fix the game constantly breaking load orders?

jagged inlet
#

I always used the archive creation tool alone, and then let the CK detect the .bsa files and upload them

median shard
#

yeah that's how we're doing it still, would need to see the bsa to confirm the issue here PepeThonk what's the full name of it?

oof 1 minute timer

jagged inlet
#

Lux_xbox.bsa, and then Lux - Textures_xbox.bsa. Sounds right? 😄

storm bay
jagged inlet
#

it is mostly complaining about textures when it is trying to upload the plugin and the bsa files..What I did was simply using catehdral asset optimizer to halve the textures size, then modify some meshes to hide the editor markers. Then used the archive creation tool to pack meshes and textures separately..I always tick the two options below "compress textures" for meshes

storm bay
#

I compress as well, only things I dont are sound and music

jagged inlet
#

I see, thank you both 😄 I can try to pack textures and meshes again..at least I know that the plugin is not causing the issue

lucid granite
#

hey so i don't mean to bother y'all but ummm skyui isnt working neither is mcm helper not quite sure where i went wrong

#

I’ve got mcm helper and skyui installed but they ain’t showing up

split crescent
frail magnet
split crescent
frail magnet
#

That's what I'm using, but the game disables all the mods.

lucid granite
#

Welp I’m now confused to all high hell

#

Can someone possibly help me out because I’m confused

red cove
#

So they've just completely broken everything and all have gone completely radio silence on a fix huh?

frail magnet
#

The Steam integration you can at least fix yourself.

thorny lark
undone void
split crescent
undone void
#

Unfortunate. I respect simon removing his mods but I'm not exactly spoiled for choice with overhauls

Anyone have any ps4 friendly race, perk, magic and/or enchanting mod recommendations?

split crescent
#

You can fight the load order untill it behaves itself. I did that like 6 hours ago

slim kettle
torn fiber
#

Does anyone know if the bug where the CK will crash after a while if you don't disable sound has been fixed?

slim kettle
#

That's quite a bug. Patch notes didn't mention it being fixed.

torn fiber
#

I know the unofficial CK patch fixed it but it no longer works because of the CK update

slim kettle
#

Yeah, and the lead dev for The unofficial ck patches has given up on it now apparently

torn fiber
#

😭

slim kettle
#

Somebody else might pick it back up, but that requires somebody skilled enough to do so. And somebody with free time.

torn fiber
#

@real sphinx ^discord scammer

lucid granite
#

Well I’m now scratching my head because FNIS output won’t show up

jolly egret
#

Hello Skyrim often crashes for me with mods, I deactivated mods, now things are back to normal, hopefully someone can help me or explain why (gaming on Xbox Series X/S)

slim kettle
jolly egret
lucid granite
#

Soooo question should I try and redownload FNIS again via the mod organiser 2 because the fnis output isn’t showing up or isn’t generating

slim kettle
#

Without knowing the mod, and with console not having access to tools like xEdit, there is no easy way to figure it out.

real sphinx
torn fiber
#

Alright, will do 🙂

median shard
tame trout
#

And if you have a save file earlier back then the most recent ones that crash. This would help too.

jolly egret
tame trout
jagged inlet
celest aspen
#

For those who don't know, if you use mods like Ryn's, JK'S, Spaghetti's, civil War outposts, or any mods that add world elements, they will interfere with the new Kingath EEE "creation."

split crescent
#

Till patches are inevitably made

jagged inlet
grizzled torrent
#

Which CK are you having issues with?

#

Don't run the CK though any additional programs, like MO2 or the like. It takes up too many system resources. Just run through Steam. (I don't even like having to have Steam running in the background, but it is what it is.) If the CK is getting stuck packaging, go through your archive and make sure you do not have bad mesh. You'll need to sanitize the mesh and rebuild it if it's borked. For FO4, you'll need 3DS Max (not sure if you can do it with Blender). Someone who does Skyrim meshes will need to take you through the process of sanitizing a mesh in Blender for that game. You might be able to find the information at Beyond Skyrim wiki or someone here might know.

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Go through your EditorWarnings.txt and see if there is a current issue. Search for <Current>. In FO4 CK, you can create a color warning for the Warnings Window, then just double-click the warning. It will take you to the problematic issue.

jagged inlet
#

I ma having issues with the skyrim ck since the latest update

I am not using any extra plugin or program, as the unofficial ck patch I was using is not compatible with the latest update

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MASTERFILE: ===========================================================
MASTERFILE: One of the files that "Lux.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
MASTERFILE: One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
MASTERFILE: Potentially duplicate Land (000028df) encountered in file Dawnguard.esm.
MASTERFILE: Potentially duplicate Land (000028fd) encountered in file Dawnguard.esm.
QUESTS: Could not find previous info (02015C83) for TopicInfo (02015C84) in Topic "" (02004DAA).
FORMS: Non-parent CONT form 'MerchantCaravanCChest' (0007434E) exists in both file 'HearthFires.esm' and 'Dawnguard.esm'
EDITOR: Editor ID 'DweRmSmCounter01Half' for STAT (03003F0D) is not unique, previous object (02003F0D) is type STAT. Editor ID will be set to 'DweRmSmCounter01HalfDUPLICATE001'.
MASTERFILE: File 'Lux.esp' is changing ref (00100991):
from base 'DefaultTorch01NS' (00088243) to base 'Lux_RuinsEmberFireOmni' (071449F0)
from cell 'NONE' (00000000) to cell 'Labyrinthian03origin' (0001CECF).
CELLS: Ref is not in its persistence location 'LabyrinthianLocation' (00019262).

So what happens is that I go through all the warnings, clicking on "yes to all", but then the ck crashes as soon as it tries to upload the files, right after editing the creation page

#

I need to take note of what textures the ck is giving me a warning for when uploading the mod

grizzled torrent
#

Lux.esp's master has changed. Can you link the page?

#

Lux requires Lux Via

#

At least the SSE version of it does. I thought it was designed for ENB.

#

Lux Via's zip file is 1.3 GB.

thick verge
#

Any tips on fixing up a load order? for some odd reason in the game whenever i fast travel the textures for the character in the loading screen dont pop up sometimes.

crude hill
#

Is anyone having issues connecting to bethesdas servers for skyrim?

prisma merlin
#

Is the skyrim creation menu down again? Everytime i try to log in, im immediately kicked off the game. (Xbox)

crude hill
narrow nimbus
crude hill
#

I wonder if they ever update the status portal. its the first place I look every time. Then I just its just me lol

prisma merlin
#

I honestly don't know if they do/don't. Its also unfortunate that PS is having the same problem too. I guess I'm gonna have to suffer with my current load order in the meantime lol.

grizzled torrent
#

Xbox was having game pass issues earlier but I don't know what part of game pass was doing what. You might check on the Xbox status page

jagged inlet
thorny lark
#

What even is the “$CreateAcct_BNET_CANNOT_CONNECT” BS?

frank sail
#

just a failure to connect to the server, it’s normally just a one off and you can reconnect straicht away but seems like it’s possibly down atm

thorny lark
#

Good to know I’m not the only one I guess

wise ginkgo
thorny lark
frank sail
#

Linking to a guide when there’s multiple of us reporting it is crazy man

crude hill
#

To be fair it would be helpful if they updated their status portal. Its also down on pc. The portal is the first place I checked, along with their support twitter

wise ginkgo
frank sail
#

thanks chief

crude hill
daring yarrow
#

Anyone having problems with their load order on Skyrim, like finding out a few or every mod being in the wrong order?

wise ginkgo
daring yarrow
#

No, assuming that should fix it?

wise ginkgo
grizzled torrent
#

the instructions for the resources are for PC players with mod managers. Xbox works totally different

frank sail
gentle owl
daring yarrow
prisma merlin
slim kettle
#

Creation club has cbbe mods?

naive umbra
modern nacelle
#

so im on xbox, what happens when i clear the reserved data?

#

or reserved space i mean

#

100 million billion people in this server and nobody cares to respond

slim kettle
#

A quick google search should explain it too.
It clears your mods.

prisma merlin
modern nacelle
split crescent
thorny lark
#

Hey so I had to update all my cc content anyone know why

elfin jewel
#

Have any bigfix patches released since the creations update I want Noble smim back

thorny lark
#

No unfortunately

elfin jewel
#

But starfield gets a bug fix patch
Ok bethesda

thorny lark
#

I know right

slim kettle
#

More communication about patches would be nice.

thorny lark
neon sphinx
#

So who wants to help make a vending machine mod to celebrate what will surely be Creations cooked into the release of Creation Kit for Starfield (and the game update attached)? Vending machine would be called "Third Attempt Vending powered by Creations" and would sell less useful versions of simple items like chunks food or whatever but at 1000x the price! - I think a determined team of modders could push hard and make it one of the first Creations to go live when they introduce it sometime next quarter!

slim kettle
neon sphinx
#

Could have it spit out a replica version of a random item from the modding community for those folks who give permission. Big ticket item is it's gotta be really expensive and be significantly less amazing than something else available.

split crescent
neon sphinx
low river
#

When will mod support come for starfield

slim kettle
#

Next year

low river
slim kettle
#

Early. But who knows what early means for them

low river
lucid granite
#

Well I give up on tryna use mod organiser 2

#

Mod organiser 2 is confusing to all high hell is there anything easier to use? Like with star field how all I had to do was just drag and drop the files

neon sphinx
#

I'm so glad I never switched away from Skyrim LE. I Know a ton of newer stuff went SE exclusive but the hundreds of tweaks i made to mods i have loaded, my own stuff... No Creation (whatever)... It's sad.

slim kettle
tender vault
slim kettle
steady igloo
#

I'm making a Dwemer ruin called Ahrkchend and it's on a desert island in the middle of nowhere in a cave, what could the Dwemer have used Ahrkchend for? The name translates to "Broken passage"

waxen musk
#

Doesn't quite sync up with the name but with the remoteness, some sort of dangerous experimental laboratory / factorum might make sense. Something they didn't want to let "poison the homeland" as it were if it broke.

steady igloo
lucid granite
#

How to sort the mods properly and so on how to update the mods

grizzled torrent
#

If you install everything manually, you gain a better appreciation for what the mod managers do and will be able troubleshoot any issues while using them.

slim kettle
lucid granite
slim kettle
#

You download the mod again from nexus, then you update it.
Simple as that.

Or are you talking about updating mo2 itself? if so. That is done relatively automatically. It'll give you a notification about it.

lucid granite
slim kettle
#

Yes
Well, loot is built in to mo2, but otherwise yes.

errant narwhal
#

Has there been any news on a mod that redone the main quest in Skyrim

tepid mural
thorny lark
split crescent
grizzled torrent
split crescent
#

No no you have always been able to bookmark thousands. The problem is actually seeing them

grizzled torrent
#

Wait. You cannot see them now?

split crescent
#

They are perfectly viewable....on the website where you can change pages. In game it tops out at like 40

Im exaggerating but it is nowhere near what i could view with ugh in my favorites with the old ui

grizzled torrent
#

People need to give mod authors more information when reporting bugs. Jeebus.

I’ll look into then.

#

Is jpexs still the go-to for SWF decompiling?

tepid mural
#

Yes

grizzled torrent
#

Thank you

split crescent
#

Your mod just does not function with the new ui, and the new search is a bit better so you CAN find old mods

However take that one popular retexture mod with 300 mods under the same name and finding the exact one is impossible if it gets burried because the new search refuses to show it to you

grizzled torrent
#

Search was never touched.

split crescent
#

Yeah it was. Changing the viewable amount imfor the mod viewing allowed more mods to show when searching too as a byproduct

grizzled torrent
#

You misunderstand what I’m saying. All things were expanded. But I never touched the search function

split crescent
#

No what im saying is i could scroll for 700 or so modsto reach old mods that i would never be able to find without ugh

grizzled torrent
#

To be clear: Make sure my mod is NOT enabled when you report any UI weirdness to Bethesda.

split crescent
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But with the current system is a crapshoot if the tab shows 100 or 1000.it seems to show everything in ui but then i go to bookmarks and i cant see past 100

grizzled torrent
#

Oh yeah. It was supposed to do that. I’ll crack open the UI and see what’s going on.

#

I do hope people with UI problems aren’t because of my edit though. I’d feel horrible

tepid mural
grizzled torrent
#

I’ll see what I can do. I have to install even more software though. 🤣

tepid mural
#

It can never be simple can it lol

crude hill
#

the limit is 100 for all tabs, not a mod limitation. also - if your load order is too long and you scroll with the mouse wheel the game crashes consitently. they also removed the "all time" sort, wich is a shame

grizzled torrent
#

The limits are imposed for a reason. I wouldn't be surprised if they imposed them for bandwidth reasons.

crude hill
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it would be nice if they allowed us to go to a second page or something if we have more than 100 bookmarks. I can confirm they store more than 100

grizzled torrent
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That's a lot of graphics to stream by a lot of users. That might be do-able. I need to see how the swfs are set up first though.

split crescent
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I don't even care if preview images bug out and don't load like the previous ui. Just let me see my mods

Not you turtle just venting at bethesda

grizzled torrent
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The images are really pretty though...

crude hill
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I ike the new layout, its just theres a few things I wish they would improve on. like letting us expand search or see scroll through multiple pages of mods. or adding 'all time' back to the search function. right now a-z is useless since you can only see the first 100 mods

split crescent
grizzled torrent
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I'm not having that issue. I'm so sorry you are. 😦 I don't have a lot of mods loaded though.

crude hill
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I noticed it crashes less often if you scroll slower. instead of using my mouse wheel I use the arrow keys now. not saying its acceptable though

split crescent
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The old ui the mod thumbnails would stop loading of you scrolled to fast on a full 150 mod load order. Now im at a nice 216 and the game crashes if i sit on the load order screen for more then 5 seconds. I have to load into the load order and before any images are loaded scroll to the mpd to reorganize it. Its literally a race against time

grizzled torrent
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LoneSurvivalist, is that vanilla UI or SkyUI?

crude hill
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Ive tested with both. both have the same result

grizzled torrent
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I'm not having issues on PC or Xbox. I feel like I should be having issues. I know as soon as I say, "I feel left out" all the things are going to break.

split crescent
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Look just download a big load order and start enjoying the problems

crude hill
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Im a PC user myself, but I heard the Xbox users are having the same issue

split crescent
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We are. I've been fighting my load order for a week now and its only gotten worse as i add more small mods to my game to up that number and do ldittle tweaks since 3 of my mods were allowed port bundles but are stuck in wip for various reasons

So instead of using the bundle im using the individual mods

grizzled torrent
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I have full AE on PC so prefer to play there with all the extra goodies and that way its just one download for the CC patch, but have some of the stuff for CC on Xbox. I have to wait til after the holiday season to update to the full AE on Xbox. My spouse's work is shutting down for 2 weeks starting next week so we'll be on an extremely tight budget. Better than last year though. Their work had an issue, shut down for their holiday and then couldn't get back up again so we were without power and heat.

split crescent
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Oh god. That sucks bro. Good luck to you

grizzled torrent
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It sucked, but the point was: I'm not having issues on either device.

split crescent
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You also do not do the "6000 mod load orders" either to be fair

crude hill
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Hopefully youll all be Ok this year! Im guessing the more mods you have the worse the problem gets. I removed some mods to test yesterday and the crashing happened less often. fingers crossed they get a light patch in on the creation page, and maybe implement some more fixes before adding it to fallout 4 and starfield

split crescent
crude hill
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Thats been my experience as well. Nexus mod manager has helped greatly with testing. Still not a fan of vortex. I need to remember that xbox users dont have that option!

split crescent
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My mod number might increase again as i wanna break down my Enai mod packs and just use the individual mods since the mod limit is gone, im mostly doing this so i can use all the proper patches

grizzled torrent
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I use the in-game manager for both. I have no need to use a mod manager. Loose files are horrible.

lilac rivet
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Ive modded skyrim on xbox and it has literally broken the whole game

split crescent
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I need to math it out tho and see if its viable since the official enai ports by enai himself are very big in size

crude hill
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Ive been using it to help with testing since the creations page crashes so much lol. I usually either manually install mods myself or just use the creations tab

grizzled torrent
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Some mods might have header issues that the in-game manager might not be recognizing? I'm not sure how closely Bethesda worked with tool creators for things like xEdit. I know that those in the CC program were not allowed to use it but there weren't specifics as to why.

crude hill
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I know that esl files are using different headers now. its possible new and old esl files are conflicting

grizzled torrent
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I totally forgot about that. I'm used to the esls on FO4.

split crescent
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I know the crashes are due to the preview images loading because it doesnt crash when none if the images have loaded yet

grizzled torrent
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So internet connection then?

crude hill
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That seems to be the case.. the faster you scroll or the more in the list the more unstable it gets. I wouldnt think it was a connection issue, more likely a server issue or a storage issue (in game, not physical hardware storage)

grizzled torrent
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I don't want to increase the amount then. Good god. Would have people all over screaming at me. WeKnow

split crescent
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No its just for the load order. In the load order organization screen if you load into the creations page right, then you quickly go into your load order while everything is loadingm no crashes

But if you wait for all the images to load and all that and then go into it 98% chance it crashes righ there

crude hill
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I think if they stored things in multiple pages it would help. like 100 mods a page. then refresh everything when you open the next list

split crescent
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Well the way it worked before the preview images would break and you could explore freely without problem as the images were not taxing the console or whatever code they used

grizzled torrent
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The menu for FO4 is more robust. It's why I had so many warnings posted for the Skyrim version.

crude hill
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also interesting - heard they were going to announce some new creation currency thing. it looks like the page was updated in game and the price of credits increased

grizzled torrent
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Microsoft went up on Game Pass so it isn't surprising.

split crescent
grizzled torrent
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I'm on a wired connection. It may be that you need to be on one too?

split crescent
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They only break the preview inages when i get into like 6 doffrent mod categories at there max limit that ugh on fallout offers

crude hill
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I think its more likely a caching issue in game. I have a 1gps download speed and am hardwired, still have issues on pc. the game probably has some sort of hard limit in place for images

grizzled torrent
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My internet will go out during small storms but not ones where we have tornado warnings. It's weird.

split crescent
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My wifi right now is as strong as my wired connection with my previous internet provider lol

grizzled torrent
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I guess we should be grateful that dial up is no longer a thing.

split crescent
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I get like 5 ping in siege while my friends are getting 25 and im on wifi

crude hill
split crescent
wise ginkgo
split crescent
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We have SSDs now. Bring back windows 98 load times

grizzled torrent
crude hill
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punch card programming and floppy disks. how many floppys for skyrim Legedary super special anniversary edition?

split crescent
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Skyrim is smaller then The Legend Of Zelda Breath of the Wild in file size

grizzled torrent
split crescent
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Skyrim but its on an atari jaguar

crude hill
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lol now I want 8 bit skyrim. maybe a doom clone

grizzled torrent
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Some poor soul ported a graphics mod to FO4 and shrank the sizes so much it looked like 8 bit. Your dream is a reality there.

split crescent
crude hill
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fallout 4 but when you use the memory den on kellogs brain skyrim opens up and you start in the opening cutscene

split crescent
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Imagine Arenas full tamriel map but like in modern starfield graphics. Everything lore accurate and 1/1 scale

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With starfield it is fully possible to do if you make certian checkpoints loadzones and every Provence being its own map

crude hill
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that would be amazing. I wish they would do a remaster on the older games

split crescent
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It would be like how rdr2 uses the rdr1 map but through load zones like they love so much

crude hill
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Im kind of surprised nirn and fallout earth werent easter eggs in starfield.

split crescent
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Or a much better ESO because it isnt online.

The planet of Reach(from halo) is in starfield

Fallout earth is in starfield. Its called Earth

crude hill
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Thats cool, I havent made it far enough to see reach yet. I meant earth but green and irradiated. not covered in snow and dust

split crescent
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Reach is close to earth tho

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I forget its exact location tho. Look it up to see what star system its in but its really close. The human population in halo does not extend to far from earth. They are able to travel far but most civilizations are still very close to the home planet

crude hill
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ill have to look around now!

grizzled torrent
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Apropos of ini settings' mods: Are grass mods working that add/remove density?

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Bethesda might have removed mymod.esp mymod.ini from being uploaded to their servers is why I'm asking.

split crescent
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Far as im aware yes. I know i use simple Workaround Framework and its built in. I always set it back to defult or i get this ugly little thing where the grass extends not fsr enough because the lod is low

grizzled torrent
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That's a scripted thing though. SetINIBool() or some such.

split crescent
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Yeah. Im sure ini mods work fine as long as it isnt affecting rhe main menu

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Even your ugh mod didnt break anything even when i reinstalled it to see if it worked. So it should be alright.

grizzled torrent
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It would make sense they removed it. There are a lot of settings you shouldn't touch. FPS being one of them since its tied to the Havok physics engine.

split crescent
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I see i lost another mod for some reason. This one being pretty big too. Idk what one was lost and now i have to fight my load order to figure it out

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Yay im so excited to figure this bs out

grizzled torrent
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I would write your load order down outside the game. There a ton of spreadsheets floating around and Google has a free service for everything that is offered in LibreOffice and MS Office.

split crescent
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I just magically gained over 140mb of mod space so i know i lost something. My problem is i dont know what vanished because i csnt view my load order without it crashing the whole freaking game

grizzled torrent
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Sounds like you just need to start over. Not worth the hassle. Nuke your reserve and your saves and just start fresh. Once a mod is removed it changes the load order anyway and the saves tied to the original load order are hosed anyway. The game engine is not designed to remove plugins. They're plugins not plugouts.

split crescent
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I don't have any saves and im worried its one of my armor replacers

If i had a save id at least know what it was by the file name

grizzled torrent
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just trying to help, man. It's your game. Have fun. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

split crescent
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I need to know what i lost so i know what needs to be replaced

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Really difficult to write a load order down when the game crashes every time you look at your load order

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Maybe i gained so much because ussep lost some weight. Tho it isnt the first time my load order told me the wrong file sizes. Reconciliation is a 73mb download but shows as only 13 in my load order

thorny lark
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Yo the new prices for coins are there?

split crescent
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4.99 - 500
9.99 - 1000
24.99 - 2700
49.99 - 5500

thorny lark
split crescent
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They are now properly scaled with the cheeper ones and at more normal price varients so yeah 400 credits is just $4 now instead of a little less then 4

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Im gonna spend some time looking through my mods. Making sure everything is written down in my load order. Removing any mods ive removed since writing it and then wiping my lo and starting over

gentle owl
split crescent
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Yup im just reporting what the new prices are and what you get out of it

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Ok because i broke appart a Bundle my load order jumped from 212 to 236. This includes patches ive been unable to use thanks to the bundles name not matching what the patches needed. Also i dont know if every mod is gonna fit till i try lol

lucid granite
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Well I’ve switched to vortex because I heard it’s allot easier and beginner friendly for modders

long heath
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What would you need to get into modding for starfield?

split crescent
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I dont buy the credits so i dont know

long heath
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Why wasn’t there anything like hearth fire from Skyrim in starfield? It might be doable to work around it by setting something up like a shop that you buy from then the item is consumed and the structure/upgrade us spawned in

woeful vector
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They used to be cheaper, but still overpriced IMO. Price changed yesterday.

slim kettle
long heath
slim kettle
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xEdit for esm mods.
Capricia and champollion for scripts.
Nifskope and the blender Bridge for new visuals

split crescent
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What they said

slim kettle
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Bethesda archive extractor is important as well. It'll allow you to actually see what's inside the ba2 files

long heath
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What language is needed to program the mod?

split crescent
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Papyrus right?

slim kettle
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xEdit is required to create a new esm. No programming language.
Scripts require papyrus, a proprietary language made by Bethesda

long heath
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Java so a Java based language

slim kettle
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No. There's no Java involved at all. Where did you read that?

long heath
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Sorry trying to google it to figure out how to manually write the scripts

split crescent
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Goodluck learning enough papyrus

slim kettle
split crescent
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What you even trying to make anyway? I'm sure if you wait for the CK you could get most of it done with the in built tools if your trying to make a quest or whatever

long heath
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Skyrim hearth fire style system building mod where you find an abandoned system with automated mining facilities full of (clones?),( automated shipyards), (automated factories that make robot enemies). Maybe a bit too ambitious but just a somewhat small system the player can build up and make their home piece by piece.

slim kettle
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Good luck with that

split crescent
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You do know the hearthfire system evolved into the settlement system of fallout and then into the outpost system of starfield. Its wild that some one wants the hearthfire system.

But honestly how you describe it. Its more a buisness system like the mods that use hearthfire to make functional farms and mines for skyrim

long heath
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I feel like the settlement system is a bit of a downgrade from the hearth fire idea it just feels so janky and don’t get me started on the outpost system.

slim kettle
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Hearthfire is for designed a house with prefabs.
Settlements are about building a small town/village
And outpost... Well idk even. I guess making a small spot for 2 or 3 followers

split crescent
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Im just hoping the full loot mod that returns the full loot system bethesda is known for can be ported to console

Also the settlement system is only janky when you dont wanna build them yourself. I like the freedom it has. The outpost system needed like 10 times more objects to make it actually fun and the ability to recruit more then like 2 npcs per outpostm it really was cut back.

Since inknow they will be bringing it to tes6 they need to make it onto a player home builder snd focus a lot on objects some one actually wants to use in there homes

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I wanna build a nice mannor for myself, my followers and maybe adopted children of they bring that back

long heath
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I believe they are still using the same engine it is doable to use both the hearth fire and settlement creation methods to maybe make something better. Like you can buy or construct a structure even have it go underground to an extent and remove loading zones to make it cleaner while letting you free place decorations/furniture or letting you use the ship designer ui to build structures you can then place into the world and populate with furniture and have npcs frequent it to do things

split crescent
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Yeah it has the potential to be a lot more then it is that i agree with. Building your own prefabs that you can slap together into a live build would be fun. But we both know going underground without entering a load door is impossible unless the hole already exists there

long heath
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Could make a space in the world that only exists while the structure exists just going under the map

slim kettle
long heath
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I would like to be able to terraform planets and build cities

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I still feel like the size of the game is too big and empty. It’s getting closer to 1 terabyte.

slim kettle
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120gb is 12% of 1TB

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You could add 200 more planets and only need a few more MegaBytes of data.

split crescent
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Gsme is only 100kb its practically a gb already

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I hope the mod space on console doesnt suffer the fallout 4 fate of being way to small for the mods available

long heath
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To be honest you could trim the 120 systems down to 30 - 60 and cut the size of the game significantly

split crescent
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The size of the game is all the npc data, audio, all the ships, all of the lod data of literally thousands upon thousands of world cells

slim kettle
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The games size isn't related to the number of planets
The data is so large due to visual, models, etc

split crescent
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Oh yeah the game uses 4k textures by like default. Like everything is in 4k. What is funny is that cod, a game not natively 4k is larger in size and with less content

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The fact its ONLY 120GB when any other studio making this game it would of been pushing 500

slim kettle
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They spend a lot of storage space on animations and visuals.

split crescent
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Im scared to learn about gta6's file size. Rdr2 didnt leave me hopeful for proper compression

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Bethesda games already optomize and shrink everything to there utmost limits half the time i mean 720p skyrim is only 7 gb

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Thats smaller then most switch games with more content then most switch games

slim kettle
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Starfield doesn't shrink/compress/resize stuff a lot.
Most big studios don't bother with that

split crescent
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Yeah but bethesda still does it when it counts or needs to so it wont bloat your hard drive

slim kettle
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If you want to see a lot of content with small disk space, you'll have to look at smaller games. NMS is 15GB of storage space.

split crescent
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Nms is just assets and data that says this planet should look thid way and generates it for you that way all while being the laggiest thing in any of the generated towns

slim kettle
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That's what starfield planets are too.

split crescent
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Now have a lovely night everyone

lucid granite
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ugh the rabit hole that is mods

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seriously does it ever end

prisma merlin
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Nope. While the content of the mods get better, the management of said mods only get worse. Like I literally spent 3 whole days fixing my LO just to get 65 mods to work in tandem with each other. My most recent problem was an added follower mod that made followers from my other mods attack anyone and anything.

lucid granite
pearl lagoon
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That's why i am back at 1.6.640

normal arrow
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yeah had to spend a couple hours patching a few mods out of 770. so rough today.

split crescent
plain geode
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has there been any fix for TrueHUD yet?