#elder-scrolls-general-chat

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minor dew
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like youve got battle shouts and all tha i never use em

feral viper
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Oh, yeah, that's why I don't generally support just adding more skills. Make Skills more interesting and allow for differentiation within them...

minor dew
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I dotnsee them turning it in to a nioh

feral viper
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But, I have to go out up a trellis for my peas before they fall over. I'll be back later.

minor dew
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fiore this graphically idea of a game is not wrong but theyll never go for it

livid ingot
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Perhaps not

minor dew
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look a this recent ps5 convension,what a load of crap,its so blow me away it would take your sockets out head

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thinkbet just need to get ready for the backlash for whatver comes after skyrim

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break it in to 4 teams make an elder scrolls every year

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oblivion graphics

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starfield does space you out,im worried edler might completely fry your brain

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makeit black and white hahaha

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just remeber where skyrim came from and its not this **** weve got now

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should have that up in a notice board in room

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yeah skyrims old,who to know what new game with thsimalr? graphics will be like.

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there was an old guy brian he was like 70 somethin,g back when skrim was relased. i wanna be that guy that is all

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it might take abad elder scrolls to make a good one but thry say there on to something

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this guy ppayed all them an ive never even played 1 and 2

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anyway im off to play some fallout 76 have a good night folks

raw hawk
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Might be wrong place to ask but I didn't see an ESO channel. I've played a year there and a year here. Question tho, how would you say the new game experience is? Are there new players or is it mostly returning players? Pondering starting anew instead of one of my old charachters, been a few years since I played.

rose fjord
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I wonder if the thalmor will hold you prisoner in es6 tutorial

eager remnant
feral viper
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Who those pirates are, and where you'd go from there, are a whole other topic

pale walrus
# rose fjord I wonder if the thalmor will hold you prisoner in es6 tutorial

I'd rather it started off as your PC being part of a group of captured slaves being herded along by some Alik'r nomads. Either from an attack or a sandstorm, you find an opportunity to escape, and your adventure starts from there. Just a personal preference. As regards any thalmor presence in HF, I'd rather it be much more under cover - real clandestine stuff, like a network of undercover agents.

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The thalmor have to date been treated too much like an altmer version of the Gestapo. It's boring.

rose fjord
forest surge
feral viper
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Aaah, Mannimarco... My beloved...

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Never forget what they did to you.

forest surge
feral viper
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So he got super edgy and bad ass in Daggerfall. And then...

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Oblivion. And whatever THAT was.

hidden herald
pale walrus
nimble pond
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Curious question, how are some of you going to react if it turns out to not be in the province you're pressuring for, such as Hammerfell? Redfall all over again?

eager remnant
pale walrus
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I have to admit, though, that I would very much prefer the province to have some mountains. I think that might make a game set in Black Marsh a bit of a problem in that respect. Nevertheless - any province is fine, so long as it's richly detailed.

gray oyster
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I would really like to see proper romancing system in TES VI, followed by more complex wedding quests or something and an ability to not just adopt but have the main character's own kind (it could be sort of a continuation of the family thing in Starfield (being able to have parents), only involving romancing (in-game quest integration), not just a perk you choose at the beginning).

feral viper
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The biggest issue with romance in any game, is the need to write it all out first. And romance is an incredibly difficult thing to write convincingly.

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As far as location, I'm not commited to anywhere. I'm pretty sure it won't be where I WANT it, so I'm more or less just going with the flow there.

livid ingot
feral viper
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I tend to agree. Starfield made up my mind on that.

livid ingot
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I'm all about game development playing to their strengths 💪

feral viper
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I'm sure sychophantic love bugs who coo every time you walk by appeal to someone. But not me.

livid ingot
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Skyrim's system was basically character assassination.

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I've always loved that TES gives even the lightest character building to npcs that in other games would just be faceless spawns

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Marriage in Skyrim would erase what little character npcs were alotted. It was sad

feral viper
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Yeah. And Starfield is just as bad in that regard. So unless they can show vast improvement on if, I'd rather not.

livid ingot
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While they should discard romancing, I do think TES VI should build on having travel/questing companions. They really need to fix the glorified pack mule problem though.

feral viper
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Indeed

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And Starfield did great there. It just collapsed with marriage

livid ingot
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I'm really glad to hear there was improvement on that front

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I need to go back and play Starfield at some point. I didn't get too far in before I started running into performance problems due to my minimum-end specs.

feral viper
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It's got its ups and downs. But there's a lot of improvement in it that is positive for TES.

pale walrus
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Marriage seemed an awkward and contrived thing in ES5. It's almost as if the developers just cobbled it together and stuck it onto the main game with some elmer's glue. If BGS keeps a marriage & family aspect for ES6, it needs a very substantial overhaul. As it stands in ES5, there's no sense that it creates a belonging to a particular community or the creation of a very special purpose and focus in the PC's life. Think about it - marriage and kids is a HUGE DEAL IRL. There's zero sense of that in ES5.

feral viper
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Starfield does better in the overall process, but ends up falling flat on the aftermath. Partners lose all character once you marry them, and become flat puppy love chatboxes afterwards.

nimble pond
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What, no fighting and throwing beer bottles at each other? Scandalous affairs with the Argonian next door?

feral viper
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More like... Bella in twilight.

rose fjord
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I wonder if the vampire mechanics will differ in es6

feral viper
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They have yet to be the same 2 games in a row. So I can practically guarantee the will be different.

pale walrus
glass marlin
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I just want TES6 to have a better written story than what we got in Skyrim. lol Something along the lines we got in Morrowind.

feral viper
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Well, plus side, Fallout 4 and Starfield are notably better written. Still have their problems, but they're head and shoulders better written than Skyrim.

rose fjord
feral viper
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I actually like the Skyrim approach. I think it's more thematically and mechanically interesting.

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You trade your humanity for the illusion of community, or you sacrifice community for power.

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Being a Vampire should never be viewed as a positive. You are a MONSTER, and your choices are either try to conceal that fact, or embrace it.

rose fjord
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Does anyone actually know what platform es6 is going to be on

livid ingot
rose fjord
livid ingot
rose fjord
pale walrus
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As long as ES6 is on PC, I'm content.

rose fjord
pale walrus
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Yup. I'd say it's essentially guaranteed.

rose fjord
rose fjord
pale walrus
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I'm just speculating, bro. I have no hard evidence. But: based on what's been said by TH and MSFT lately, it sounds like a Q4 2026 release of ES6 is a reasonable supposition, and past history suggests the announcement and platform details. The only people who, I think, really need to worry are the PS owners.

rose fjord
nimble pond
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Do vampires always have to drain life force though? Why not ones that focus on draining Magicka out of it's victims and even from the world itself?

rose fjord
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Do you think they’ll say something before the end of this year about es6

pale walrus
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One major objection to how the vamps operate now (at least in ES5) - they drain health not from biting, but from somethign that really looks like a spell. That's weak. A vamp should have to sink his fangs into you. And you shouldn't be able to get an infection in any other way than a bite.

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Oh, by the way - I have to fault BGS on their physical designs of vamps. The only good looking one I've seen is Serana, and she's maybe a 7. Fact is, they should all be at least as good looking as Catherine Deneuve. That would be the right way to 'skin' them.

pale walrus
rose fjord
hearty glade
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Afternoon humans 😌

nimble pond
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Why would they have to camp out at mage gatherings? I thought magic was like in everything including the world itself? Even our characters always start out with a default value of magicka regardless if we ever cast any spells or not.

pale walrus
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I was just assuming that your regular Joe going to work every morning in Tamriel doesn't have any magicka at all. That means your specialized vamp needs to go shopping at particular places to satisfy his case of the munchies.

feral viper
pale walrus
feral viper
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Straight up the the most recent vampire case in Romania, which was entirely predicated on a woman in a Villiage getting a bad bout of the flu shortly after a man had died.

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So they blamed the deceased, dug up his body and staked him.

In 2014.

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No blood drinking, no sightings, no nothing. Just a lady in the village getting sick, a few days after a funeral.

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Different variations also have vampires being the cause of SIDs being an explanation for dug up graves (which were certainly grave robbers) and general cannibalism

pale walrus
feral viper
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Vampires are a pretty broad mythological category of generalised 'life force drainers'.

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Not everything typically classified as a Vampire today, was ever really called that historically. We've sorta lumped a lot of them together.

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Similar to what we did with Dragons.

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Technically, most modern classifications lump Draugar in with Vampires.

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Personally, my favourite take are from Legacy of Kain, where they are able to draw blood out of wounds like they have a psychic straw.

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They also mutate as they age, becoming more and more like debased versions of the original Vampire Race.

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Point being, Vampires are a diverse concept with many different feeding mechanisms. So a 'Drain' spell isn't that bad.

feral viper
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In terms of Vampiric diversity, the prize has always gone to The Masquerade, and Warhammer..

pale walrus
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Overall, are you content with how the vamps are handled to this point in ES? If not, what changes would you like to see?

nimble pond
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I feel like in order for one to be truly killed should require other methods (no not stakes, lmao). Just hacking away at them shouldn't kill them, just make them use invisibility to retreat from you when their health drops down instead of dying.

eager remnant
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The main thing I'd like to see is the reintroduction and expansion of vampire clans. It was a promising idea in Morrowind but they didn't do much with it. It's a shame they got rid of it completely in Oblivion

pale walrus
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Something else: I want to be able to cure myself of the infection without excessive difficulty. The idea of being 'trapped' into being a vampire could ruin the game for me.

minor dew
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off topic, but i was just thinking something about the withcer 4 will probably be announced at next years sgf too,.

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so pre production means,the initial planning stages of a game,when did i hear someone say edler scrolls was going in to pre production stage,it wasnt terble long ago

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says this was 2018 so maybe i lost a few years somewere

eager remnant
feral viper
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I'd rather see it fleshed out into a sliding scale. Well fed and 'hale' Vampires shouldn't get physical or magic buffs. Instead, they are more charming and manipulative. A vampire that feels regularly will find it easier to remain imbedded in civil society and remain hidden. But in doing so, they're not actually going to get much out of Vampirism. And they still get the drawbacks of being weak in sunlight.

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If you abstain, however, you get the real buffs. You become stronger, faster, and more dangerous. But the trade off is that you become more inhuman, and can't blend in as easily.

So to get all the cool powers, you have to effectively suffer, whereas if you want to keep your social presence you need to feed on innocent people and don't really get anything out of it.

minor dew
eager remnant
# minor dew what w tht say i know nothing of pre production production,how long do both? st...

Typically, a small group of developers begin working on pre-production (which generally consists of preliminary concept drawings, first drafts of story and character ideas, ect) on a future game while most of the team begins full production on the current game. So, most likely, BGS began pre-production of TES VI immediately after Fallout 76 was released in 2018. As a developer's job on the current game is finished BGS usually reassigns them to the future game. As the current game nears completion, more and more developers are moved over to the future game.

minor dew
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im gonna take a stab and say it take 2-3 years to produce a game

eager remnant
minor dew
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fallout 76 wasnt made by bethesda though,anyway september 2026....this was my first guess....thanks

livid ingot
minor dew
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they arent seperate teams?

livid ingot
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Bethesda Austin worked on the multi-player aspect, but the most of the game's content came from the Maryland studio, iirc

minor dew
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oh

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i always got the impression,bethesda and bethesda studios where seperate

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bethesda softwroks whatever the way of it is

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im getting mixe up

eager remnant
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There are two comapnies named "Bethesda." Bethesda Softworks, the publisher, and Bethesda Game Studios, the developers. This is a Bethesda Game Studios Discord, not a Bethesda Softworks Discord. This is why there is a Fallout 76 chat here but no Wolfenstein, Doom or Elder Scrolls Online chats. This is because Bethesda Game Studios did not develop those games

minor dew
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i see i always wondered,that but i took fallout 76 and elder scrolls online where here because they had taken from the game

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ebthesda softwork employees? will be called in at the later stages of a main bethesda game to help finish it off?>

eager remnant
minor dew
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hmm oh

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dunno where i got that info

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why didnt they just say it was a bethesda game then lol

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cause no bethesda player wanted online

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wasnt wolfienstein bethesda

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im mixed up compoletely now man

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yeah it was bethesda softworks i dunno man

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i get it,quite a few.,., betheda..main....team.,., worked on ESO

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I know ebthesda has a whole lotta outlets and seprate teams

forest surge
minor dew
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ty

forest surge
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The ESO Devs consult with Bethesda very often when it comes to making new content to add to the overall world

minor dew
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yeah its basically what i said at the start no?

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anyway its gonna be 2026 before es6

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*** **** 2 more years man

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sigh

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hope everyone is having a good night,fallout 76 has me wore out

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who the man united fan that works in bethesda, i know pete hines was an arsenal fan, the red devils in starfield this has to eb a united fan

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tim cains cahnnels,pretty cool,guys got some rpetty cool stories, i onlt start following these guys whenever they retire

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anyway back to elder scrolls stop chaging topic folks

rose fjord
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If they’re in production and development of es6 doesn’t that mean that they are expirementing with current gen consoles

minor dew
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how longs the ps5 been out

rose fjord
minor dew
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probably be expecting a ps6 2025 2026 aynway

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theres been damn all games man

rose fjord
minor dew
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ah its not gonna be that far away man

rose fjord
minor dew
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yeah theres not been enough games for it either

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lol

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it would mean a whole console skip without and elder scrolls or even a fallout

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actually there was no edler scrolls on the ps4

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from what i recall..,.,someone said they where waiting on next gen consoles (ps5) to be able to what they want with ES6

rose fjord
minor dew
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aw yeahs till

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heres for hope

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maybe the xbox will have a ps5 control by then

rose fjord
minor dew
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try and find a game that i havnt beat 5 times

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:p

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night :p

rose fjord
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But seriously if they’re in development of es6 are they using current gen Xbox to experiment on doesn’t that mean they’re planning for this gen consoles

minor dew
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im gonna belive you then i can be shocked if it come out 2026

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i can remeber arguing with a guy in a facebook saying no it will come out 2016 theres 5 years between nevery games and he says it will be like 2025

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bethesda spy

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lol

gloomy anchor
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This has been going on for a while. So lets get back on elder scrolls current and not elder scrolls future

rose fjord
minor dew
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ha, i doubt that heres for hoping though

rose fjord
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On Xbox 360

minor dew
gloomy anchor
minor dew
gloomy anchor
minor dew
gloomy anchor
minor dew
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ah yeah...this is a elder scrolls disussion dude and you says to change topic, theres a room for ESO

dusk iron
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I miss playing Skyrim

minor dew
dusk iron
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Its impossible to finish that game

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I got all trophies and did all quests but somehow I still have side quests left

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And last time I played I found new one

minor dew
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no you can actually, if if you run from one side of the map horizontllky or diagonally, unlocking every location you can actually

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id suggest going across the map, i did this with fallout too

dusk iron
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Maybe I should download again I hit 500 hours last summer and havent played since

rose fjord
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Es6 I wonder if they’ll be smithing skills

minor dew
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600 hours was my first playthrough

dusk iron
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Im still on my first playthrough

minor dew
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659 to be precise

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😄

dusk iron
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But now I want see different choises like destroy Brotherhood side with stormcloacks

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Hopefully es6 will have this magic

minor dew
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level 252....yeah ive did all that but thats the nly split choice there is from what i recall....yeha for sure man

dusk iron
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Just no loading screens and weird ai and game is perfect

minor dew
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i dont really mind the loading screens it slows it down a bit, was the same with starfield,the game was so much tht when the people where complaining about the waiting time to sell your gear.,. i was like it gives you a breather

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i would be most happy with no glitches

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bugs whatever

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quest bugs!

dusk iron
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Atleast everything was enterable

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In Skyrim so it makes sense

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But I dont know if that will be acceptable if I guess game comes in 2028

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Will all new technology

minor dew
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they just announced it,you must have missed ti wve been talking about it as hours

dusk iron
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I missed it

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What was announced

minor dew
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I joke

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i just dont hope they wait as long for the next one

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i have 2000 hours in skyrim who can beat me

dusk iron
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Nobody

minor dew
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nah one guy had 5000 like 10 years ago

dusk iron
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Insanity

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At that point I dont know what would I do in game

minor dew
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indeed bit like the fromsoft player players have similar numbers....same

dusk iron
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Yeah I have almost 400 in elden ring and 500 in Skyrim

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Im just like that when I play rpg game

minor dew
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yeah 600 in elden ring but never play dlc

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yeah i have the death played outa the all,cyberpunmk withcer

dusk iron
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Yeah same

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I started cyberpunk yesterday and witcher is one of my favorite games ever

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I love action rpgs

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Should I wait for skyoblivion I never played original

gloomy anchor
minor dew
minor dew
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oblivion

dusk iron
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Witcher 3 map you can fall in love

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Amazing details everything has soul and soundtrack is amazing

dusk iron
minor dew
minor dew
dusk iron
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Im lazy to do gwent trophies

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Oblivion and Morrowind are probably on sale on steam

minor dew
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yeah there not as hard as you think i actually had fun with it

minor dew
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even you didnt i would still buy oblivion for sure, i just dont like morrowind cause thers too much reading

dusk iron
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Im afraid how these games aged

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Some old games are just unplayable now with old controls

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I can buy them for collection and try when I have nothing to play

minor dew
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every time i see oblvion even too this day, i say i want o play that game even with recent graphics

minor dew
dusk iron
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Im just busy now with cyberpunk game is very fun

minor dew
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yeah ive platinumed it but tried it on the ps4 its no where near as good

dusk iron
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Yeah I dont mind old graphics

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Its all about art direction, look at fromsoftware games

minor dew
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to me obvion had a better look than skyrim it just didnt have the same hold

dusk iron
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Not the best graphics but they are beautful

dusk iron
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They didn't even bother updating there is no dlc

minor dew
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i dunno what to play

dusk iron
minor dew
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few games coming out soon 🙂 😛

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i never thought of playing dragon quest, i seen one guy recommend it in a facebook group, it s a good (rpg)...if you like the jrpg style

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not many of them i like

dusk iron
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Sorry I never tried that game

minor dew
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do you play final fantasies?

dusk iron
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No but I dont mind jrpg

minor dew
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tales of?

dusk iron
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I might try to get into genre

minor dew
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there only certain ones man, its just depends on your preferences

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but ive a good half a doaen jrpgs over the years,maybe more

gloomy anchor
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Final Fantasy 10 is in my top 5 games of all time

minor dew
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you prob havnt as much time on your hand as me vit,yeah its in my top ten anyway the krisken with 7

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zelda a link tot eh past might be showing my age here.

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didnt really ike that last one what was it tales of arise

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tales of besaria and zestari where cool rpgs

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is it besaria what the name of that

dusk iron
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I dont own nintendo

minor dew
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nah there on ps

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i dont own a nintendo etiehr

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what was the other one

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it wasnt a tales of game vit, was something else,just something to fill my time vit ive got too much time on my hands

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I will iterally play any genre but i dont play sports games o much any more, i used to love em

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the resident evils are one of my favs puttin gthe rpgs aside

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lumisoa of lacrossa or something its called

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gonna buy a rpg called the siege of flint or something is that what it called it out on 18th,hopefully be ok,then wow then new world, should take me up to asassins creed mirage and star wars outlaws

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maybe i shouldnt be writing all this in here, it just seems like everyone is bored of skyrim

dusk iron
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I played re7 and re2 remake pretty good games

minor dew
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try 8

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village I absolutrly loved it best re in years

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7 was aight 6 was ***

dusk iron
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Its on my wishlist

minor dew
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yeah man be better on a console but

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the 3 remakes ok too

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shold i be writing all this, if some bethesda employees forced to read all this

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horizon page is pretty good for general chat

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maybe there a general page in here :p

dusk iron
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Idk they used to be annoying with that (sorry devs and mods) back last year every time I talked off topic from elder scrolls they deleted my messages

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But we have been talking about this for an hour now

minor dew
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yeah well theree in production now, so id say there not looking so many more ideas

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there an off topic room, the problem with fallout players is some fallout players i knowadbsotl hate edler scrolls

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lots of fallout players arent rpg players at all

dusk iron
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I couldnt get into fallout but I tried only fallout 4

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And that was before tv show hype

minor dew
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i absolutly love fallou5 and 3 skyrim and oblvion

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tv show was cool too?

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i enjoyed it best show ive seen on netflix amazon in a while

dusk iron
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Its just funny how after tv show everyone is fallout fan

minor dew
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yeah well that might not last as far as fallout 76 😦

dusk iron
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Bro us tes players are waiting for new game since 2011 and they are complaining about fallout 5

minor dew
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be like elder scrolls online,plye the death otu of it for month or 2 then enevr touch it again

dusk iron
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Just because they enjoyed tv show

minor dew
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yeah well id take both

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🙂

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tim cain the guy that worked head or what.,.,. of most the fallout games has retired so thats not good

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well not retired,but....somewhere maybe there

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, i never heard of him til i seen him on a pdcast then i started watching him,guys cool as hell, i would say him and todd howard where pretty close

minor dew
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dont like the look of this dragon age veilguard

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I think i remived it from my wishlist

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anyway i think where all talked out

dusk iron
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I never even played ff games

minor dew
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...thats why i love an elder scrolls game,it always was a filler beween other games

dusk iron
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Even persona

minor dew
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yeah not one of my favourites but i think i put like80 hours in to it

dusk iron
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Baldur's gate 3 was a masterpiece to me

minor dew
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too tedious man all that walking about shops and eating burgers,these are 2 games i really should play

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if you where to mention 2 rpgs that i should finsih it would probalby be these 2,they just dont hod me

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baldurs gates just like blah, i dont know man why i dont like that game

eager remnant
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This is the Elder Scrolls chat. Let's take the discussion of Final Fantasy, Baldur's Gate, Persona and other games to #off-topic

minor dew
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yeah no prob m8

dusk iron
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Sure

minor dew
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are the fallut 76 player si in there 0.0

eager remnant
minor dew
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I cant find the off-topic,which sections it in, i seen it a minute ago

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strange seemingly its dissapeared,maybe its telling me to skeep g night

dusk iron
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Yes I have plans to wake up in 4 hours so g night

eager remnant
minor dew
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sorry man ty

minor dew
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why i couldnt find it,no idea whats going on

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gnight folks

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😄

stuck minnow
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Elder scrolls 6 better have flying mounts and new game plus

rose fjord
pale walrus
feral viper
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@pale walrus I'm going to respond to that here, since I think it's more appropriate for this channel. But I do think it has merit.

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I think it would be dishonest for anyone to claim that Bethesda's characters look GOOD. Possible, sure, but never good. A large part of that, I think, stems from the general approach to character design from Bethesda, where they try to steer away from true motion capture replication of real people and instead lean more towards creating new people in engine.

That sort of application always yields weirder results. Simply because even if you HAVE motion capture to draw on, the engine needs to try and apply that data to artificial faces that will not, and cannot, articulate in the same way as a real face. There simply are too few points to do it naturally.

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A real face has millions of microscopic points of articulation. An animated one doesn't. Do unless you're just replicating a real face, you can't manage the same thing. So it always looks... Weird.

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That said, I still prefer the attempt over just seeing the same real life actors in every third game.

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All of that said... Animations need a LOT of work. Even Starfield's animations are stuff and disjointed. They're an improvement, yes, but like... It's not 2010 anymore.

livid ingot
# feral viper I think it would be dishonest for anyone to claim that Bethesda's characters loo...

Maybe this doesn't mean much coming from someone that entered the series with Oblivion, but I thought Skyrim's characters looked excellent when they were revealed in 2011. They don't hold up 13 years later, I won't deny that. And it looks like further improvements have been made, with what I saw of Starfield. I'd agree that Beth isn't exactly in a competitive spot when it comes to character design, though.

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No argument from me regarding animations

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minor dew
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I seen one recent bethesda employee, he didnt look too Good, so im gonna hop over to the off topic page in the hopes that this wasnt the main team he joined

feral viper
# livid ingot Maybe this doesn't mean much coming from someone that entered the series with *O...

Oh, they have definitely shown improvement since they started doing it with Oblivion. Even Starfield is notably better in terms of facial expressions than Skyrim was.

But because of the approach, it's always going to feel a little uncanny Valley. At least until AI is able to accurately replicate 43 muscle groups, millions of undulating cells of different consistency, and all the nuance and plasticity of real faces.

minor dew
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yeah the starfield npcs sucked***

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downt o earth a little bit delussional,this is me, this is bethesda, this is why i will always buy ubislf games, downt o earth even though they have the same formula, this is why il always buy bethesda games until they give me reason not too

feral viper
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Eh, the only good thing I have to say about Ubisoft is... Anno 117 looks good.

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Obviously no game is 100% Accurate, but I love how they explain the inaccuracies present in time period with how the Animus is reconstructing the environments and such, using things that were present in certain parts of an era that came around later, the Animus is not a 100% Foolproof Device in that aspect.

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Had a crazy dream this morning the elder scrolls 6 trailer released, and they decided to go the chibi route..

pale walrus
minor dew
forest surge
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anyhoo :p elder scrolls 6 will be a 99 for def

feral viper
# forest surge Obviously no game is 100% Accurate, but I love how they explain the inaccuracies...

My main beef with them is I just don't find them mechanically engaging. Or, at least, not engaging enough for me to tolerate my seething hatred for the overarching plot and setting.

I'm an Anthropologist. My specialisation was in Archaeology. Atlantis, Ancient Aliens, Giants, Hyperdifusionism....they are all constant misinformation quagmires my beloved field has to wade through on a daily basis. So a game literally predicated on Graham Hancock's deranged ramblings already has a steep hill to climb, and needs to be bloody fun as hell to hold me.

feral viper
forest surge
minor dew
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forest surge
minor dew
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He is a fraudster and a pseudoarchaeology huckster who pushes the entirely fallacious narrative that all human civilisations descend from one global super civilisation wiped, invariably, by the last Ice Age, Younger Dryas Impact, or Global Flood.

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His latest sham was Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix, which is unfortunately getting a second season.

minor dew
forest surge
# feral viper My main beef with them is I just don't find them mechanically engaging. Or, at l...

So a nutjob, It’s nothing new I haven’t heard, but ultimately Assassins Creed it not meant to be 100% Historically Accurate, the idea of everything coming from the Isu, this super civilization is not necessarily them telling you that’s exactly what it is IRL, this is just them telling there own story while also teaching the player about History itself. Obviously the Templars never existed past when they existed.

minor dew
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its game 😦

forest surge
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Assassins Creed 3 helped me during my American Revolutionary War History Class in Middle School

feral viper
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That said, Black Flag was great. So long as I avoided all the Assassin's Creed parts of it.

minor dew
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assasins creed 3 and black flag where my least 2 assasins creed games thanks

forest surge
minor dew
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even i kow this in secret

feral viper
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Black Flag actually changed some of my opinions on what you could do in TES as well. Back in the day.

forest surge
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I love Assassins Creed because it helped teach me stuff. I wouldn’t be as interested in History without it.

feral viper
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But yeah. If I WANT to be angry, I watch Hancock. If I WANT to be sad, I listen to Sabatons Final Solution.

minor dew
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hanccock doesnt aek me angry I odnt thin a little maybe

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only seen., that one show

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bout year and half ago was it

forest surge
minor dew
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but i think its online only

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i tried a little im not sure if it was the demo or the main game but i didnt like it

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I dont like ship battles I like swords

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and migic

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bow and arrow its probly why i beat far cry primal

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even though it took me like a year

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lol

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wow had some cool classes too man like a draenor wouldnt be out of place in elder scrolls but that would be stealing

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you can always draw from wow man cause its been going so long, its got basically every enemy and class, like a worgan,what if there where just wild worgans

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or you know that other one the monster in america the ones that look like big foot or like they try to depict bgi foot as

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wendigo,think that was your idea tetrical

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heres an idea,what if you had under water monsters and under water casting

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loch ness monster man

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haha

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or draonflys

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we had the

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little ones

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thats kinda like what do you call them , bloodbugs in fallout

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like a oversized drongonfly has thay been done in an elder scrolls

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dont think anyone would want to run in to a full oversized female lion but a cheetah would be cool

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there are lions in elder scrolls

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oblibon had the bog one in the cellar

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glyps,what tf a glyps

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glyphs do we have glyphs yeah we have glyphs in elder scrolls online

pale walrus
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He's like this guy, but less attached to reality

minor dew
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he shows you some pretty col stuff man,even thogh his ideoligy is all wrong

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i actually find his stuff easy to watch

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just like the alien programs, you know its all bs but its so bs its kinda contenting

feral viper
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He's also incredibly charismatic. Which ironically may suggest he's a sociopath... But that's going wildly off topic.

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Point being, Black Flag was the first game that really suggested to me that engaging sailing games were possible in the current era.

minor dew
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man i just hope he doesnt see this he ight never work again

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I would never bad mouth that guy

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does he still do stuff, know nothing of him man, i just seen the one show

feral viper
minor dew
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might be truth in that might not, I have no idea seems about right

pale walrus
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The idea that there was an ancient, pre-ending-of-last-ice-age super-civilization is quite silly, and hancock is either a con artist or has been out in the sun too long. But archeology itself is a beautiful discipline. I very much enjoy reading little tidbits here and there about societies that were formed in the pre-writing/hieroglyph, pre-agricultural days. That Gobleki Tepe place in turkey, as well as less ancient but equally interesting places like Stonehenge, the Carnac stones and even a variety of stone structures found in the western hemisphere are fascinating because they show that even hunter-gatherers who had no written communication standards and either no or extremely rudimentary agriculture would, upon settling in one spot, begin establishing more permanent structures out of wood or stone that had either economic, social or mystical/religious significance. I remember once reading about a people from the Moroccan region of north africa who, during the very earliest days of the copper age, migrated north to the iberian peninsula and dug mines, gradually working their way north into the northern slopes of the pyrenees whereupon they suddenly vanished. Look at the Polynesians and those amazing catamarans they build thousands of years ago - they could traverse thousands of miles of the pacific ocean in them, transporting even livestock, and their vessels were probably the most sophisticated sailing ships ever devised.

feral viper
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His whole brand is built on 'Mainstream Archaeologists hate me'.

And well. I am a mainstream archaeologist.

pale walrus
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The point of the above is that this kind of stuff could be explored to give us more insight into the Nedes, the Snow Elves, the Atmorans and other peoples in the Merethic or even Dawn era. This is a big opportunity for storytelling for BGS.

minor dew
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that is his agruement,hes got all wrong and i dont know my history so i found it easy watchnig

feral viper
minor dew
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snow elves do we have them in elder scrolls

feral viper
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Hyperdifusionism is an overplayed trope in fiction that ultimately diminishes the amazing and beautiful complexity of societies and their development, interaction, and conflict.

minor dew
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Like, we can track the development of YAWEH from a regional war and storm god, to becoming the patron god of a minor kingdom, to becoming the ONLY god in 3 of the world's largest and most enduring religions.

That's amazing shiz right there.

minor dew
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, yeah id otn get too in too god man,thats a touchy subject with me, i think i believe thats as far as it gos

feral viper
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And the rarity of Hyperdifusionism only makes ACTUAL examples of monodifusionism more interesting.

Like, did you know Dragons are not an archetype?

minor dew
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eyahw ell i like to believe there would only be one god,the one from monty python :p

feral viper
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Storm Gods, Nature Gods, Earth Gods, these are archetypical forms that appear and develop independently very commonly and very easily. Because they represent specific aspects of the world that everyone basically interacts with.

Dragons, or the idea of a Dragon, on the other hand, don't. They DO stem from a single source, about 29,000 years ago, in central Africa.

minor dew
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outised of solstiem,theres like a god in solsteim,there arent any god gods in elder scrolls, em maybe gettinf a bit carried away here

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theres not really like many typhoons hurricanes style events in elder scrolls,that would be a cool event no?

feral viper
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The Alessian Order did have a monotheistic view of Akatosh for awhile. Called The One.

minor dew
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that getting to dellusional man

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I dont really follow the lore for my own sanity

feral viper
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They also caused the Middle Dawn, so... They were kinda crazy

minor dew
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woh s the allesion?

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whos.?

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but like zeus and characters like that that the greeks actuall believe is cool to have lore on

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think that why the god of wars work so well?

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for em the lore in elder scrolls is in one ear oiut the other, I just bash stuff down and hunt treasure 😄 😄

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but i could not tell you full lore on partunaux or what happened up in the mountain, until i come to it ,then its like yeah heard it all before

feral viper
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Alessia was the founder and patron saint of the First Cyrodiilic Empire. The Alessian Order is the religious order founded by her followers.

minor dew
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as so she was like what was the first edler scrolls

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daggeall?

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yeha man when im hearing hearing all that in game i find it kinda compounding, but i would never actually have a cinversation like this too someone, im more like whats your day

feral viper
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Nope, the only Empire we have seen is the 3rd

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ESO takes place a few hundred years after the collapse of the 2nd. The Reman Empire.

minor dew
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ah so we havnt seen those parts

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brb

feral viper
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Nope. All we know for sure is... Alessia's son was a Minotaur.

minor dew
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what seriosly, she was the first god or what im lost,minataurs they where in oblvion?

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how di that come about]

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She was the first Empress. And then she became a saint by the religious order that followed. That religious order, known as the Alessian Order, also turned Akatosh into something of a Monotheistic god rather than the Time God we are now familiar with.

It clearly didn't stick.

minor dew
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alessias not one of the saints'gods but ive heard that name

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like how did she have a minataur i know its edler scrolls man but that pushing the boat

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As for how Minotaurs ended up monsters... Alessia's son, Belharza, had a long political conflict with the increasingly racist Alessian Order (who hated all non-humans) and sometime after his death, the Order seized control and drove the Minotaurs out of civilised society. While also turning on the Ayleids who had sided with Alessia in their revolt, and effectively exterminating them.

minor dew
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guess it would be like whats that show the one with,,,,brandon or wth you call him, you know the black heared guy

feral viper
minor dew
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are you making this up or is this in some lore youve seen somewhere

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but that tv was cool

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Nope, this is all in game.

minor dew
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what....the notes...wait til i find the name of that show

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car delvigne and the other guy any ever seen it,shes a fauiry :S

feral viper
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Some are in the Songs of Pelinal, some are from ESO, some are from the Trials of Saint Alessia...

minor dew
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yeah.,. i see i dont read the books, there was a poem in one i read something about knirs and knats it was good

feral viper
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Oh yeah, it's almost all in books in game.

minor dew
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this is why i dont like oblivon, too much reading 😄

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morrowund*

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played quite a bit of that game thoguh, was all over the map on one playthrough

feral viper
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Mmhmm. Man, I started playing Rogue Trader recently, and the amount of extra reading is...

I'm getting too old for dat

minor dew
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yeah lie short dialogue i think most do, but somebody that likes to talk on games a but rather than give idea i say would like reading

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or like im not gonna say it 🙂

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was in a facebook once for like 2 years, think i never spoke in it once

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maybe once,maybe put up a picute once not sure

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carnival row

feral viper
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I mostly use my Facebook to combat misinformation, and make fun of bigots.

Not exactly productive, but hey.

minor dew
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theres minataur men in it pretty cool

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i dont use mine all man its deactivated

feral viper
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I've been meaning to watch that. My brother recommends it.

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Maybe once I get my tv hooked up to a computer so I can do useful things with it..m

minor dew
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im gonna just stick it on here see where im at

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its decent man good cast

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yeah theres like a weird storyline going on in this second season think thats why i tuned oit off

feral viper
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Anyway, back to more productive topics.

Sailing in Black Flag was the first time in... Well, a decade at that point, that I actually enjoyed sailing. And unlike Sid Meier's Pirates, it was actually in a format that was at least somewhat applicable.

Blackwake and then Sea of Thieves eventually cemented my position on sailing in games as entirely viable.

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Which is why I am now fully on board with Sailing being a potential thing in TES.

minor dew
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for sure blag flag didnt suit an assasin land it uited more a fantasy land

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nah i dnt see, it,maybe coming in in a boat i dont see sailing one

feral viper
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Another thing I actually enjoyed in Black Flag was the Fleet Missions.

minor dew
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i only played lik 10-15ish hours of it the sailing actuall put me off

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I odnt drive a car so driving a boat you can understand

feral viper
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Not directly, of course. But being able to dispatch your ships on missions, I think, would be excellent if adopted for Guilds. Allowing you to send your underlings on actual jobs, and have being a leader of a guild actually DO something.

minor dew
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maybe dispaching your own ship that could be cool

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but there are no real seas

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its really kakes

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small lakes man, i dont think a sea has place for es

feral viper
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I don't mean Ships directly. But the idea could be applied to underlings. Like, imagine sending Farkas and Ayela out on a task as the head of the Companions.

minor dew
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where too

feral viper
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Instead of having to do everything yourself, you can delegate tasks to others.

minor dew
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maybe eso

feral viper
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Well, you'd need an actual Mission system in place to make use of any such mechanic. Which the games currently do not have.

minor dew
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naw man you need to explore the world yourelf!

feral viper
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Though, Starfield did introduce stats and skills for NPCs, so that's half the work done...

minor dew
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maybe if was a radiant qwuest for like wood, i dunno it wold kinda be a waste of time

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but if you can build you own house in edler scrolls!??? more like fallout?.?

feral viper
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I imagine it as something of an overhaul on Radiant Quests and the economy of the games. So, like... If you rise through the ranks of a Guild, you can then get the opportunity to send those guild members on the same sort of radiant quests you can do. They then generate money, which you can either reinvest into the Guild for upgrades and equipment, or skim off the top for yourself..

minor dew
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feels mmoey

feral viper
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So, for like personal adventuring, you can definitely make enough money to be comfortable. But if you want to be LAVISH, you need minions to multitask.

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It would also generally help with making it so guilds and the like have more of a presence in the world. Instead of always just hanging out in the clubhouse.

minor dew
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when you put it like that, but then its like you could probalby have 5 million gil within a week

feral viper
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But it's something that would require some background changes to how Radiant Quests are handled, and such...

minor dew
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but if there where very expensive items in the game

feral viper
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I have a rambling dissertation on the Nexus forums about it.

minor dew
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nice.

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doesnt fit right

feral viper
minor dew
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fell like sending your assasins out in assasins creed 2

feral viper
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It's in there somewhere.

At some point, I should go back and retool things post-Starfield...

minor dew
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ah

feral viper
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Sodding bulloxs, it's been 4 years since I updated that...

minor dew
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i see yeah man il stick here

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il take a very quick peak

feral viper
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It's largely a product from when we switched from the Forums, to Discord

minor dew
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ah wasnt discoord ages ago

feral viper
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The Forums were much better suited to long form discussion and details, and you could format posts to make discussion very clear and concise.

You can't do the same on Discord, unfortunately. So I started a post on the Nexus Forums to basically keep things formatted and condensed in the same way.

minor dew
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ah i see, you ssemd more interested thos days

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back in skyrim!

feral viper
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The anti-capitalist, legit wing conspiratorial side of me thinks that the shift to Discord was to make thoughtful discussion and dissection of games more difficult, and stifle meaningful discourse while shifting interaction more towards raw Community Management than anything...

minor dew
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i like talking in here man cause it feels like, your maybe,maybe not ,.feels more productive

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i used discoord 10years ago man, but it was for talking

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raid in wow....LOL!

feral viper
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Oh, ive used it for a decade too. But more for chatting with friends, after moving on from Skype.

minor dew
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ah yeah *** skype

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anyone im talking to on here im not really talking to them.

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well,there have .. been ..a few conversations

feral viper
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The more level headed side of me, however, largely adheres to 'Do not attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by incompetence'.

So I'm pretty sure the switch to Discord was more about cost saving and trend chasing than any active attempt to dodge thoughtful discourse.

minor dew
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well to me this as about as thoughtful a discourse as you can get cause employes are vewing this page

feral viper
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Fair. But I can tell you, some of the stuff we used to get up to was... Oof.

minor dew
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fair

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fcebook blah, i have no idea why i staed there for 2 years

feral viper
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Like, actually calculating the number of explicit outcomes for characters on Skyrim, to demonstrate that it's skill and perk system actually had more built in diversity than most RPGs.

minor dew
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bita banter to is usppose,fun

feral viper
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That one looked like a physics blackboard...

minor dew
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parasocial fun as far as veinwing each other page gos.....yeah i like figuring all that stuff out on my own but i owld be interested in that sort thing.,.,. i used the wow forums quite a bit

feral viper
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So did I. I largely fell off when they turned Night Elves into a laughing stock in Siege of Orgrimmar.

minor dew
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this new one looks good

feral viper
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'You're going to get some bad ass Night Elf stuff in Siege, and it won't be Druids we promise'

minor dew
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sige of orgammer was what expasino

feral viper
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What do we get? Some Huntresses knocking down a door.

minor dew
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was it legion

feral viper
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Mists of Pandaria.

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Don't even get me STARTED on Legion... Ruining Illidan...

minor dew
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ah, wasnt fussed on it,legion and lich king......burning crusade was awesomeo too but never played it til re relase

spare anchor
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Hello, this is the Elder Scrolls channel. Please stay on topic. Non-TES talk should be in #off-topic

minor dew
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it was mostly elder scrolls lumaro sorry

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Indeed. Overall point being, we used to talk a lot about the nitty gritty of the franchise, mechanical interactions, etc. and it's a lot more challenging to do that here, due to Discord's format.

Which is why I started that Forum thread, to keep the sort of bullet point formatting.

minor dew
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Because one of the major problems with any game, is the difficulty in talking about topics in isolation. GOOD mechanics work in systems to interact with eachother. So in order to really explore the potential of one thing, you have to bring up half a dozen OTHER things.

Which quickly devolves into a clunky wall of text.

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Take Armour for instance. I often argue that Light-Medium-Heavy Armour are stupid ideas and actively make both the game, and themselves, worse.

But in order to explain WHY, I need to go into Encumbrance, Skills, AC (which also requires going into Damage types, which requires talking about weapons and combat) Layering, Crafting, etc.

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In a Forum format, you can do things like colour code key words and use nested text (like Spoiler Tags) to make it easier to digest and cross reference.

Can't do that on Discord.

minor dew
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honesly man im kinda tsalking to myself here and whoever esle should be litsening.

feral viper
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Oh, I've been doing that for YEARS.

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I swear, some threads on the Forums were just me ranting, and another member who will not be named just basically repeating "I don't like that, therefore it is wrong"

minor dew
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but i was jus thinking the other night, i doubt theyll change from the fire,ice lightinng, i mentioned wind once, but arcane would be another viable mage source, probly not but it was just something that cam in to my head the other night

feral viper
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Arcane, as it functions in TES, is more like Light (the purest form of Fire) or just raw Magicka.

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Which can do things, but... You'd have to tinker with it, I think.

minor dew
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restoration damagins spells is an interisting choice

feral viper
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There used to be Drain spells in Restoration.

minor dew
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like holy

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no?:S

feral viper
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More like... Draining Stamina or an Attribute from someone. Taking their strength and giving it to you.

minor dew
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especially in the cryps, i know some enemies take certain damge types but i dotn really know which enmies take aart fron the obvious ones where lke a fire dragon takes ice

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yeah you sse thats where your more in to the alteration tree was it you said you used, illusion whocever one it was.

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the idea of like a holy light, i know wow use that sort of thing

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brb

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holy lght in the cryps now you cant say that wouldnt be cool

feral viper
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Anyway, my ultrasonic cleaner just arrived. I have to keep a bunch of models to go in and get stripped, because I'm tired of scrubbing them with a tooth brush.

eager remnant
minor dew
# eager remnant Ah, the good old days. 😄

didnt like your game psyren, didnt know if you seen, should have knew better to buy an xbox game ❤️ lost odyseys the only other one ive stil not tried but it looks like a typical xbox cover

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theres never been any knid of harpies in an elder scrolls

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psyren kinda sounded like syren

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tbh i quite liked the look of that game on cover might try it again.,

feral viper
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And Glargg, Turija, Barret...

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Oh god, am I getting sentimental in my old age?

violet lily
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Nah, I get the same way when I think about back when forums were the social gathering place of the internet

feral viper
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I still hang out on my first forum occasionally. 40kOnline. Though it was EldarOnline and I joined...

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Still, credit where credit is due, the formatting structure i use on the earlier forum post was presented originally by SkyrimSniper. Another old hat that is sorely missed.

pale walrus
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I bet none of you remember (or perhaps even know of) F*****company.com.... THAT was a very entertaining free-for-all of a forum.

minor dew
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I genuinly dont have any good memories of life.maybe I get this way whe i wake up

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anyway hope everyone has a wonderful day including myself,fingers crossed

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arkay something to do with diamonds, dont ask me man i just woke up

feral viper
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Ok, so. This is going to be something of a controversial statement, I know, but Imma do it anyway.

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Designing Complexity is bad.

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At its core, complexity is a sign of poor design. Good design is as simple as possible while also accomplishing the function.

wide garnet
feral viper
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It's more an issue of, making things deliberately complex often actually decreases the diversity of outcomes. DESIGNING Complexity usually makes things worse.

feral viper
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A prime example of this is Armour. Not only do complete AC formulas make it impossible to make informed decisions on Armour, resulting in people just equipping the shiniest armour they find, but Encumbrance linked to specific 'classes' of armour fails to present any sort of interaction with encumbrance, instead just serving as a flat tax no one actually pays attention to.

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Armour is made too complex to try and simulate natural complexity, and in the process ends up being a largely uninteresting and unengaging automatic 'Number go Up!' interaction.

minor dew
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playing skyrim recently i felt a bit odf a challenge too

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yeah you dont want too many mechanics tetrical VBThumbsUp

feral viper
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Ultimately, we will have as many mechanics as we have 'things' to do. However, when those mechanics are complex, they typically limit how you can engage with them, and how they can engage with eachother.

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Where real complexity comes from, is how mechanics INTERACT with eachother in systems.

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Clean, concise and SIMPLE mechanics are much easier to make work together to create diverse outcomes. Because each part of the system is only ever influencing one or two things, rather than trying to valance interactions between Mechanics that each do half a dozen things on their own.

minor dew
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yeah simple mechanics i can agrre with that word

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but the game can llok better and imagine what i was aying the holy light in a crypt imagine what that would looklike in a trailer

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it wouldnt be clear it would kinda have like dots flowing around it mowing downt he undead

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probably be a level 100 resotration spell too

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skelotons are easy mowed down anyway so if you could just use holy light you could run in and mow em down all at once

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thinking of one of the druagr cryps it would look awesome in there like the way they advertizes skyrim

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I think any concept artist would have the same idea as me, I think

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like i think if there picturing this it would be the same picture as me

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I wish i had a computer where i could say here, this is how it should look

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then they can say no, you suck, worst idea ever

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the stafield chats even dead on the starfield page, a new bethesda game is needed badly

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elder scrolls pages are dead compley man, the only one i can see thats runnig is fallout 76

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fallout 76 i can see why there in there,there trying to like that game, thye dont

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blah gnight folks

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bethesda teams dot really use twitter, so where do you actually see the bethesda team thats works on elder scrolls, id love to know

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do you get too old for game development thats my question, cause i dobt theres the same spritelyness around that office as there was when they where mang oblivon,skyrim, srry guys i just turned 40 myself and i knw something changed in me

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its sad if that the case cause id assume these guys where togehter through it all ❤️

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phil spencer payed 8 billion for bethesda Todd Howard gets the last laught there

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it would kinda be funny

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elder scrolls 6 scored like a 70

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and phil spencer hiding in a toilet

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I know th doesnt want to hand the regins down,its there baby, just like hideo koshima doesnt, i wouldnt either

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david jaffe sold to cory barlog but he doesnt even pay gow

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come on guys wheres all the young one at t witht eh greta ideas

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days gone was a fn awesome game man

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was only a 75 but a way underapreciated 75 im kinda sad man

minor dew
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cant stop thiking about old bryan at 76 who loved skyrim

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Julianne irace should know,she was the main force on facebook that made skyrim what it was, incase anyone at bethesda doesnt know, im gonna dm her and see how he is if she replies

minor dew
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first time ive been on facebook in 2 months **** never chages, might be worse than twitter

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im looking through all my games on my ps , too good too good good, then you have dragons dogam 2 an immortals of aveum that are way too good, how do you keep elder scrolls 6 at too good,yous for the most pulled it off with starfield

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sorry didnt sound too friendly our dearest beloved bethesda ❤️ almost puled it off with starfield

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too good this is why i think games should never be remade,. bcause? they lose that original feel,

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with the exception of cd project red games cause both the withcer and cyberpunk where better thn the originals

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tihs is going way back but when i started playing elder sc rolls at the start I always wondered why they never had health bars above there head, just a thought

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and a scan, to me it didnt make sense that this wasnt in the game

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I dont think im too far away too say that in todays,that in todays standard where you could make a game look like a final fantasy within a massive world( metaphorically, you could introdice some of the final fantasy tactics, if the game infact is imposible to keep down

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scans? weaknesses anything to keep it a game and less of a cinematic

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didnt fully make sense but i think you know what i mean,lets says your testing it and you think the games too much , the games not enough, might be an idea

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like the games so much on these new consoles its giving me nausea.,.

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you need some extremly deep thinkers on that team man and some extremely delusional graphic designers

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The article itself doesn't really do a lot for me (some of you might get more out of it than I did, though.) But what did catch my eye was a map in the article about 1/3 of the way down: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1v4f6u/where_all_the_elder_scrolls_games_have_taken_place/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=post_embed&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

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Some thoughts on the map:

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  1. Hammerfell is a very large province. To me, it looks larger than Skyrim. Couple that with the multiple offshore islands and archipelagos, along with the possibility of visiting what's left of Yokuda and perhaps a trip to Thras, and it's extremely attractive.
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  1. Look at morrowind. Just as a guesstimate, it looks to me like we've visited only 1/3 of the province. I would have zero objections to returning to Morrowind in a sort of "FONV" style, where another studio creates the title to tide everyone over between ES6 and ES7. The only problem is - what would the main story be? Just to throw an idea out there (be patient, it's not great) - somebody determines that the Akulakhan might not be destroyed but just buried. So: the Dunmer and the Argonians go to war again trying to get to it and unearth it. Both are prepared to power it up with a substitute for Lorkhan's Heart. The PC arrives during an interim period between combat between the invading armies as they marshal their resources - again, something like FONV and the New Cali Republic squaring off against the Legion over Hoover Dam and Vegas. Maybe some of the Dunmer cities have fallen to the Argonian invaders while others have not, so the battle lines are not clean and regular.
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I remember that map. What strikes me, looking at it now, are those four unexplored provinces in the south. We've seen a lot of the northern half of Tamriel in the single-player games but nothing at all of those southermost provinces. If I was deciding which province(s) to visit in TES VI I think I would pick one of those, if only for the sake of variety.

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I still like the idea of return to Morrowind, though, and something that encompasses the entire province. The main story is the 'problem', though. How do you top (or at least reach the equivalent of) the Tribunal, Big Daddy Dagoth and Lorkhan's ticker?

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I think it's largely because, well, I don't think Beth likes non humans

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Not in a racist way. But more in a 'these require a lot of work and can't just be simple copies of fantasy stereotypes' sort of way.

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It's the same with Fallout, they afraid to come down to the deep south 😁 fingers crossed for one in New Orleans eventually..

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Fallout generally parodies Americana more consistently, and executes on it relatively well. Probably because of a greater familiarity with the subject matter. But yeah, the south is a little more... Sensitive about being parodied.

Unfortunately, given the basically every Bethesda game since 2006, I think parody is all they really think about now. Even Starfield consisted parodies. Though I'm not sure if making Cowboys even more mindlessly ridiculous was intentional. In many ways, it feels like, once they got the Fallout IP, they mentally shifted into Fallout Mode, even while actively working on TES and Starfield.

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Why would we hope that?

minor dew
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sure this guys bethesda worker but hes wholely suited to te xbox and colours

feral viper
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Ah, Console Brand loyalty. Alright, I understand now.

Couldn't really care less about what his background is in that regard.

minor dew
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it has nothing to wit the console its the games

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and controller

feral viper
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Mmhmm

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Once again, couldn't care less about that.

Not that it even really matters, because what someone has worked on in the past is not an indicator of what they CAN work on.

minor dew
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even skyrim wasnt as good on xbox

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for me personally.....yeah but i know exactly where the game gos with said person

feral viper
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How, do you know him personally? For all you know, he exclusively plays PS5 and only develops games on Xbox because that's what he's paid to do.

minor dew
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lets pur some lov in to that **** blah elder scrolls games are dark

feral viper
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Eeeh, they're about as dark as a Disney movie.

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They actively AVOID maturity like it's a plague, for the most part.

minor dew
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your****ing me right dark brotgerhoood assasinating people deadric shrines gettig you to wipe out innicent communtiess, the thieves guild

feral viper
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I think the darkest a Bethesda TES has gotten in the last 20 years has been Sapphire, and even then it's only one line regarding her traumatic backstory.

minor dew
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skyrim ws medievel this guy would make it a disney movie

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you probly play on xbox

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its a diffent game on there its so colourful weeeee

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Nah, it's kids glove handling of violence and death is play-house levels of 'dark'.

minor dew
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it has a dark feel man come on it adult

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medievel i would say that was the dark ages

feral viper
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You and I have very different definitions of 'Dark'.

minor dew
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inddeed

feral viper
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On a scale between Veggie Tales, and Terrifier2, TES from Oblivion onward is somewhere around Sleeping Beauty.

minor dew
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oblion isnt overly dark but morrowind kinda is

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i hate disney movies also

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lion kingthats about it

feral viper
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Morrowind is an exception. Largely because it actually tries to explore mature themes like Religious Fanaticism, Slavery, Sexual Assault, Abuse, etc.

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It doesn't delve too deep into most of the things it touches on, and has its fair share of comedy to boot, but it's got a lot more maturity and darkness to it than any TES game Bethesda has made since.

minor dew
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yeah dark as f man skyrim was darkish to, but what your sayin is you would prefer a disney movie

feral viper
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Oh hell no. Give me DARK.

minor dew
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i like a mix of light and dark and thats whatn bethesda does

feral viper
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Ok, should have seen that coming... Synonym time.

No more Clown College Brotherhood. No more Robin Hood Thieves Guild. No more dancing around depressing, soul crusing and thought provoking topics.

minor dew
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the back sancrement has been performed ^.

feral viper
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The DARKEST quest in all of Skyrim was the House of Horrors. And it couldn't wait to end so you could become a generic mustache twirling cartoon villian instead of... You know, doing anything interesting with Molag Bal.

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Tacky and shallow.

Show me the kids desperation. Show me how he got those materials. Show me his rage and how it consumes him. Show me the CONSEQUENCES of his darkness.

The Sacrament is window dressing. It's not actually dark, any more than a skeleton in a dungeon in Snow White is.

minor dew
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if youve been following the 9 divines there basically getting you too wipe out innocent villages, but it ok new swork

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its a game bro id play final fantasy just

feral viper
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As much as I'm not generally fond of the game as a whole (Naughty Dog makes mediocre games mechanically, and the story was predictable and poorly paced) The Last of Us at least went into the darkness. The Diner scene was the height of that games emotional impact and gravitas.

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It sorta did it late, with Joel being a selfish prick and lying to Ellie at the end, but it utterly fails to commit and tries to paint Joel as the good guy in that... So it ends up failing to really explore just how much of a monster he is.

minor dew
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last of us 2 put me of games for like 6 moths, last of us 1 for a while was my favourite game

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recent uncharteds are garb

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it ws so unerving and gritty it honestly took me away from gsming

feral viper
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Again, Naughty Dog's games are borderline unplayable to me. Partially because I can't stand PlayStation controllers but also because I just don't like how they design their games mechanically. but they tend to tell decent enough stories.

minor dew
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brb

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tried replayinglast of us one recently again,wasnt the same experince, best rtiten game though in my opion,cant think of another

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Another game that for some reason gets praise for its 'Darkness' when it doesn't deserve it, is Dragon Age Origins. Everyone points to the Count's son as an example, but it's more an example of what the same problem with Bethesda is. They dip their feet into the darkness, but refuse to commit.

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Nah, Legacy of Kain. Beats the socks off of anything Naughty Dog has ever written.

minor dew
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dont think i ever played,what sytems it on

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well the last of us I think it was just the game as a whole the way it blended the game in with the story

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you need 3 main things in a game story,gameplay and simple puzzles

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any gret game that is,diablo 3 maybe being the exception ^.^

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any game with a dark (theme) to it is always a hit, take even final fantasy 7 they where a terrorist group trying to save the planet

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not every game, i think most of the hits have a dark side tot hem

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it cant all be just mages guild altough thats the way i played my first playthrough of oblvion

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probly skyrim too

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anyway

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at least thats my perspective these days, im probly talking *** i play lots of games

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Dark, to me, is bare MINIMUM the Witches in Wild Hunt. Free the trapped spirit to save the children, killing the Barons wife as a consequence, but also later learning that the spirit caused an entire Villiage to go mad and murder eachother to feed on their deaths. Or kill the spirit as instructed, but have the Witches kill and eat the children, while the Baron's wife survives.

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Now, mutually exclusive outcomes and such Choice-Driven interactions are crude as a cudgel in my mind, but it's at least a step in the right direction there.

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Darkness explores brutality, despair, hatred and the DARK parts of humanity. It should make you uncomfortable, even angry and disgusted, because those are the emotions you WANT when confronted with darkness. Having those means you're a good person.

eager remnant
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There a quest in Neverwinter Nights 1 that I'll never forget. A woman in an Inn asks you to find her missing son. You find the corpse of her son in a dungeon. When you bring the corpse back to her the woman rushes out of the inn, wild with grief. She is immediately attcked by bandits and brutally killed. I was devasted by that quest.

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That, to me, is a dark quest

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minor dew
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grit

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but it had balance the world was beitful for the most but full of monsters,every game needs balance, its like why this modern playstation conference didnt impress me, everything was way over the top its like ok anyone under 25 you go enjoy that

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even more to the point im pretty sure i wouldt even have enjoyed them games at that age

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starfield left earth thats why it was a flop

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if were calling it that

minor dew
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actually im gonna but out of being your resident edler scrolls expert because before oblvion, i havnt a great recollection of elder scrolls, i bought morrwind on a pc but hadnt the pc to run it

feral viper
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but youve still got to make me my game, because me and todd howard could be borothers onlty hes older

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morrowind was a (too) not too good not too bad kinda like football

feral viper
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Starfield COULD have been dark. If it explored the loss of Earth in any meaningful way.

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But as usual, Bethesda just sidesteps it and doesn't really explore it in any meaningful way.

minor dew
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I think what mass effect did with space game was made it feel like you where still on earth

feral viper
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I don't mind the idea of Earth no longer being there. But then, I read Dune when I was but a young'n, so I was exposed to the idea early.

minor dew
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i dont like chage so id hate to mive to mars

feral viper
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But, as an example of how a quest in Skyrim that was SUPPOSED to be dark, could have been better if they had actually explored that darkness...

House of Horrors. The core premise of it is, Bal traps you and the Vigilant in the house, and orders you to kill eachother. Only one of you can leave.

If we had TRIED to escape, if we could watch our companion descend into despair and respiration, with Bal laughing at our failure the whole time, it would have been orders of magnitudes better. Because then the fear and resignation has meaning.

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As it was, the Vigilant just goes from 'Never trust a Dardra' to 'Only one of us is making it out of here' at the drop of a hat.

minor dew
feral viper
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Nah. If you don't take time to develop the emotional engagement, personal meaning and consequences of something, it's not dark.

Just killing a village means jack squat unless those people mean something to you.

minor dew
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maybe you should re read that

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Look i do these quests all the time but i always pause bedfore the end,what am i doung here

feral viper
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This is sorta why militaries removed free access to journalists. Because those journalists humanized the victims of war and conflict, making civilians back home care about the people their militaries were hurting.

Remove the humanization, and you remove the darkness. Because you remove the emotion.

minor dew
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too bads feel a lot

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they rull the world too

pale walrus
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Yeah, I think that quest does a lot right, but is also does a lot wrong.

In particular, it's a perfect showcase of what Bal is all about. HIS will is all that matters. HE is the boss an he WILL make you dance to his tune.

pure mulch
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They could've made the house bigger to lead you into a false sense of security that you can find an exit.

feral viper
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Though a general problem with Skyrim was the brevity of its questlines. Nothing has the room to properly breathe and develop.

minor dew
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Another great dark storyline, not from a game but from television, is the Torchwood miniseries Children of Earth.

To this day, I've only been able to watch it straight through once. It's weirdly even harder to make it through a second time, knowing the whole story.

pure mulch
minor dew
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ive got to go the children just landed in

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not mine pbviously im crazy

feral viper
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Hopefully they aren't with the 456

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Overall point being, Dark stories and themes are ones that play with your emotions, that explore our inherently empathetic tendencies to make you feel the pain of the victims in those stories.

And Bethesda just... Doesn't do that. They tend to engage in the window dressing of darkness, but none of the actual substance of it.

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WHY, I won't posit.

minor dew
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you dont have to , I WONT POST IT

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all jokes on the side though ive been lost since skyrim

feral viper
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I have an impeccable sense of direction.

minor dew
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I will have a better meory of this place,than any facebook or twitter by the time es6 come out

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but i have no dierction

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LOL!....

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back to whats the name of that game

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late

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er folks

feral viper
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Anyway, I'm off to load more minis into my ultrasonic cleaner. Which, I have discovered, is basically black magic.

rose fjord
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What consoles do you think es6 will come out on

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If they are making es6 right now then they should be playing around with Xbox series x too right

light bolt
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well, Bethesda is part of MS now
so im sure it will be Xbox exclusive (and PC), unless otherwise

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I get that some people actually like it,take the rob guy for example from playsation access, one of the best games ever made he sadi having been a lover of the original final fantasy, I guess it just depends where your at in your life

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rose fjord
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So little information come on Bethesda are we not entertained

light bolt
minor dew
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well, i can say much on that coz, its a never ending cycle, i feel
some people would love to see a modern take on an older game while some want to see new stuff being made

but its bad business if people dont like the new stuff and want to see older stuff in a modern take
theres really no winning here for the game devs today

minor dew
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re2 remake maybe re3 remake where probably as good as the original but it had been so long since you played,.,.,.,

minor dew
light bolt
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mm, fair enough

minor dew
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its nostagia its like a people shouted for a certain game for years,then its like we done that before...

light bolt
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guess it comes down to how people receive them then

minor dew
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yeah like anything else man

light bolt
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that said, im looking forward to ES6 and F5

minor dew
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yes, absolutely, i think the reason people are offputting these games is because of the modern graphics, like your looking at skyrim now and its agame that way to good man, but your putting that in to a different setting its a completely different game

light bolt
minor dew
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i can see why they made starfield

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when i think of skyrim these days i think of a rockey highlands, its (kinda) what starfield was, i find it hard to feel what skyrim will look like it hurts my brain

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es6.....:p

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fallout is much easier

light bolt
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never been a fallout guy
and Skyrim was my first BGS game
but i do enjoy all of them in their own way

and since Todd mentioned that they try to make each new game have a different feel, im down to see what they do next

minor dew
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I think there are many reasons why there been 13 years since skyrim lets just see what happens

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im saying to myself its gonna be to good but that exactly what im after I confuse myself sometimes....:S.

light bolt
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well, seeing that SF was suppose to happen after F4 but then got delayed and they decided to focus on F76 first... well, im just glad they are finally back into their routine and now that SF is out, ES6 is next on the list

minor dew
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what yous all up to tonight, srry i know this is the wrong chat, but no ones in the off topic?

minor dew
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yeah weekends suck for me too

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I prefer weekdays

eager remnant
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Back on topic, please.

livid ingot
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Watched this today, half of it while I was running the treadmill at the gym. One of the better looks at Daggerfall I thought

rose fjord
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Who is waiting for the next gen console coming 2028 Xbox I’m gonna have a full library

minor dew
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night folk

pale walrus
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You know what might be an interesting twist in ES6? Food recipes that you can make yourself and that are actually really good. I would enjoy such a thing. Think about it - do you know how to cook wild boar/feral pig, deer or elk in such a way that it takes out the gamey taste and tenderizes the meat? Such recipes are normally the specialty of starred Michelin chefs, but if there was stuff like that in there, and/or recipes for really good desserts and/or veggie and/or fish dishes, it would be both hilarious and awesome.

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I'm not crazy.

minor dew
# pale walrus You know what might be an interesting twist in ES6? Food recipes that you can ma...

its hard to really improve upon a wining formula, but i suppose you could suggest thing like a creamery or maybe a weapons making factory, but i think its probably improving upon what theyve alrwady got,the young ones might be like oh look how cool they made the fireball look, i maybe just getting old theres a case for that....what you could have is like a weapons making outpost with smyths making the weapons and the shean of the weapons that isnt within the realms of posibily these days,(kinof?) hearing the roar off the hot iron as it gos in to the water,also it wouldnt spoil the game cause they would be just iron weapons,but then you would have different random outpost who would be making dwarven weapons and thehre might be a whole different crafting system?

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maybe a duller noise that would come off the dwarven weapons, maybe a bright glram that would come of the malichite

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Ig uess? what your trying to do with an elder scrolls these days is make the game more life like without taking away from the fantasy, the human parts especially, so when you go to look in the villages you think what would make this stand out from skyrim,they have the technology thee now!

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the more an elder scrolls is a fantasy/dark fantasy,its the very human parts that people stick to, so i guess what your saying is,youve got to make the hooves and cooking sytem better maybe not with formulas,that seems more mmoey, but more like better looking cooking systems and maybe seing the food cooking???

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It would be a long process though if you had to wait on a 20 minute steak

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maybe what your saying here but you had to come back fori it,makes me think of the chefs in the kitchen, you could literally have then looking life like?

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like the steam flying you could kinda see them cooking the meat

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but if you had a personal cook your idea could realistically work, you ever heard a sirloin hitting the pan with mushrooms around it, maybe thats more for like a elder scrolls 7

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,when you think of improving the human system there a lot can be done especialy with todays technology a saleaman utside the shop would that be a racket?

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you could literally have a chain of shops in all the cities,belathors, it really depends how the games gonna look adn in which direction there taking it

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but the more human you make it,the less fantasy your gonna make it,thats the problem i feel, the vampires are gonna be sick in this game

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I think that why i origiannly suggested a wind spell, cause its more nature, cause its not hot cold or shock

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maybe even earth spells man but can you really change that system

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the story people will be much better with this than me

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like i cant come up with a mythic dawn or whatever, i can only come up with how the world would look ,im not creative enough on that front

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like or the falmer,all great idea,its just what do you place in this game, i think there have already been many great idea like wendigos...tetrical

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i cant really think of how you would make the monsters look this time round,they wold have to be fearce,like scary, but then is that putting a really nauseating feel in to the game

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you always have the deadra so how are they gonna look,gonna be scary

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the dearic lords holy **** man that *** will be bonkers

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this is a game im holding out for that i know is gonna make e completely leave reality, i must leave a note 'go outside'

pale walrus
minor dew
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if you read all of that

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LOL!

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.........

minor dew
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you would literally need a cooking skill. / would the player want that

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they might guess you could have a fishing skill too.

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fisihng hotspots theres an interesting idea

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you coukd have the map marked kinda like the red dead map. just fishing :.....

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i think the idea that the world around you is acutalyl gonna look 10 times better than skyrim is actually sarting to appela to me

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.......can you imagine what you could make diamonds look like.

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I think if you where gonna make gold it would have to very thinly lined stiff, you couldnt have bulky jewly,mabe on the wrist

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with like a spahire in it

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crowns im not so sure jeez that pretty heavy, like if they look lifelike that a lot man

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you could have like an ebony crown

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;p

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like a gold or ebony crown with lots of diamonds in it, i can see why i mentioned final fantast ealrier

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but i guess you could use this in like a crowning ceremony

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yeah the storys already writ and the games in production so this idea is invalid anyway

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tihkn that going way to fantasy iwth ending the game with soemone being crowned

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im confused agin

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lol

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like blackheart the betryed, being beatin down the whole game gonig finally on to rule hemmerfell?

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i dunno im just talking ***** at this point

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Andoullie

rose fjord
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Do you think the next Xbox 2028 will be backwards compatibility

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Duh

pale walrus
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I hope in elder scrolls 6 there’s a spell or something like werewolf that will keep you from getting vampirism or evolve it at least

nimble pond
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Can we explore something besides vampires and werewolves? Like they can stay in the game as enemy encounters, but give something else the spotlight in that area.

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I actually find both werewolves and vampires to be uninteresting. If they weren't in the next title at all, I would not miss them. Many would disagree with me, and I do not criticize their interest in those creatures. I just find them stale and tedious.

rose fjord
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It’s part of the fantasy world

minor dew
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I always thinks of imps, like a modern cool looking version of them, but they where in oblvioon and the player would probably complain?

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I guess a cool way around that would be to make one and call them something else :p

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,.floating eye was it they called them in final fantasy

rose fjord
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Hope they make better player home houses and how to sort through items better in es6

minor dew
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< I dunno if this idea would work, but maybe a way of getting your deadric artifcts to be on the same level as you when you aquire them, cause a lot of times i found you got a cool deadric artfact when you where like level 50 and t was, like 10 fire on it

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or a secret forge that level up daredric artifacts lolol

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,most of em are quite usable but you get like the odd one was iy like the dawnstart or somesoemrhing did you get it from from mediras shrine that had like 10 fire on it

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sya like when the guy in whiterun,,,,gave you the axe of whiterun and it had lie 4 fire on it,,,,maybe if that scaled with you too,,no?

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.like like say you where using the axe of whiterun, for a few levels...like it would make them feel more important than throwing them in a drawer

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,cause the weapons kinda where like i wanna use that but its way underleveled

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maybe these weapons are made to be auired at a certain point of the game I dont know

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even the lunar sword from tht forge that hadnt really any part in the game,theres always something that made me wanna use that

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itslkie had it night time damge on it

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like i dont mean just use i mean continue to use it, like i dont think you could level it up no?

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A shrine for the shrine artifacts i dunno my head gone this mrnin

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what if the dearc artifacts hung up in the whiterun tower just as an example

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well not the tower like the main hte, the place where you get the alchemy

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like if you had a main hoe outside the home where they where on display no?

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:p

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My thing is, it'd be like having the shout power in every tes game and ignoring other potential ideas. Vampires & werewolves are a minor feature and had their questlines and focus and that's great, but let's not make it a habit of repeating that in every tes game over other potential ventures.

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vampires for sure ar ethe most close to life horror fantasy you can get, but if there not in the game would anyone miss them???

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yes

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They can be in the game like any other creature, but another questline and focus on them like from Skyrim? Pass.

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for sure!!!!

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wasnt.,. fussed on that dlc

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what do you do with a dlc but , like they all go above the main game

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Just like I would not want TESVI to be about dragons all over again. They can be present and encounters, but not as the main thing again..

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I liked the Skyrim DLC and Soul Cairn was cool. I just don't want the same thing over and over again as opposed to exploring new things.

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yeah theres plenty of devs in that team im sure theyll come up with somethnig

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Were-ism itself is already a thing in the lore and there's a lot more than just wolves and bats 😆

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,yeah its the way you can make them llok thoguh thats gonna be the catch about the new game

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.....the way you can make them react :p

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like skyrim is only 40g starfield is 150 imwodering how far there gonna go with it

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like you could have a bunch of wolves flanking you, hiding in the bushes who knows

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:p...

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googly you tube 40 stragest animal im unsure if theres even a vid,its like beyond baffling how some of these greatures exist

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under sea ones are the weirdest

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,

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I dont really know of many withces in the elder scrolls

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:S

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the number one lytoidcal creture when i ggole it is sea onsters,weve got one in the uk called the loch ness moster in , a loch on scotland

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its actually what i had visioned would make sense

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theres ones of them that lok liek the supposed loch niegh monster in wow,there like what that zone, level 16 zone

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its beside ironforge :p

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supernatural had al the myhodical creatures,might be worth rewatching that show if you wanted some ideas

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gin

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idk

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Jin

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jyn?

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Sea Monsters
Ogres
Fire Birds
Giants
Mermaids
Werewolves
Dragons
Therianthropes
Vampires
Unicorns

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I just copy pasted it, most of them have been used

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maybe unicorns, :p

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sheogarath probly has one of those, its just probly not in game lolol

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if you come up with mydoical moster within a myhdocial world,that isnt tied to the real world,something that could steal your mana a mana leech

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:p

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maybe vampire that can sck your mana nosferatu

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lol

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doesnt have the same feel as having the blood sucked out of tyou

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a nosferatu head vampire as the head vampire in a cave,that would be scary as hell man if you wanted to add a bit off horro in to the game

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the old vampire films where youd go behind the pub and there just be a crypt of vampires on the walls, that *** freaked me out as kid

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ic ant rmeber the guys name that did them films, used to be on tv all the time,my dad loved em,,, cristopher something,let me see if i can find the scene im talking abot

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christopher lee,yeah i cant find it.,.,., was just the vision that cmae in to my head you could probably come up with something better

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if youve got like whiteruns version of elder scrolls 6 you could relsease it and il run about it for a while, i am so ****** fiedd there are no games

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how do yo keep this game down!

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maybe im just getting offput by the current version of skyrim

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or thfact that ive played 2000 hours on it

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like where there any eally scary creatures inskyrim, i cant thinkof any

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the vampire dens wernt nice

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it is a game i suppose so more detailed mosters fixes it

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i dunno why i cant stop thinking about the floating eye,like a good looking one a hairy one amongst the higlands

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yeah im gonna shut up,theres obviously experienced people on this team and im sure they can get this game looking right

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in my eyes you can go darker,even scarier,but that just me

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its has to go daker

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like im talking about when you see someone doing the black screment its like watching a seance

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but then what happens with magic cause if thT GOES REALLY DARK THAT GOS REALLY LIGHT AND ITS LIKE WOAH

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srry never meant to write in cap, game would be a 18+ and proably get banned

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I aybe old , maybe I sould try daggerfall

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imps are the only thing come to my head,like a way fearcer one, like you could just go way out of it and like them enmies you had in morrwind, i hoguht them enmies where weak man

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i cans ee why this has moved to xbox whenever a clown just came in to my head

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lie you could judt make and attacking square box LOL!

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whats about like eels,congor eels, if there was underwater fighting

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this idea is below my years

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you could realistaclly attack crabs underwater

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like how do you make the game look good without overdoing it,this a problem final fantasy ran in to years ago

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i think youve got to face facts youve, got to move with the tmes,please dont go xbox route,these games will be dung ma

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hermits i have no idea what he *** means

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grandpa from the simpsons if your lookig a cartoon version of what i was thinknig

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its the mosnters that are th tricky bit