#fallout-general-chat
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Extremely bad RPG
Good gameplay
ok
If it's something that interests you and it's a topic you'd like to explore then you should do it 🙂
Hey guys, I’m looking to buy some NV collectibles or displayables, where’s the best place to look? Specifically I’m looking for a sunset sarsaparilla bottle but I’m open to ideas
The National Atomic Testing Museum in Vegas is launching a World of Fallout exhibit next month:
atomicmuseum.vegas/exhibits-and...
I'm soundtrack hunting from Fallout 2.
Anyone know the music from this cutscene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-zQjpD4Ing
Fallout 2: The destruction of Control Station Enclave, aka "The Oil Rig." The Enclave's HQ.
I know it's probably the wrong place to ask but I don't have Mark Morgan on my speed dial and Interplay has been defunct for years.
anyone can help me i'm trying to run fallout and its not working in trying to run it through game pass
Alright
Call me crazy, but new vegas plays like a moshpit of combat
The DLCs are just a nonstop slog of baddies and that rocks
Did anyone buy the Fallout 2025 advent calendar? I’ve been trying to find pictures of what the contents actually look like.
Nope.
Good idea tho. I should try an Advent calender
I bought FONV and I’m running into an error
“Fallout: New Vegas does not appear to be installed and the installer could not be found. Try exploring to your DVD-ROM drive and selecting setup.exe to install the game”
I bought it off steam
Now it wants to work
so ive got a pipboy radio mod installed but i wanna make it match the fallout style of jams for the list of music on it.
right now i wanna add "lovely day" by bill weathers. it sure dont sound like rap and seems like it would make sense to exist in fallout but i wanna know your thoughts on this choice.
there is also "dont worry be happy" by bobby mcferrin im thinkin' of slappin in there just because of the good vibes but again i wanna know if it would make sense to exist within the fallout setting.
Hmmmm
I like both songs but idk if they fit tbh
I really hope the next fallout game is set in a nuclear winter or sum
nah. whatd be cool is if theres a dynamic weather system. something to add snow when your pipboys calender says its winter, more flowers for chem crafting in the spring, higher dehydration at summer and less animals seen in the fall and winter. something based on the ingame clock ya know?
If it's for your own personal use you should use whatever music appeals to you. It's your game, your rules. Personally I think songs from the 30s to the 50s suit the game world best (I absolutely cringe when I hear "Take Me Home Country Roads" in a Fallout setting). But if a song makes sense to you, use it.
noted.
also i recognize this one song. am i right that fallout shelter used multiple renditions of the song "And All the While I'm Loving You" from the essential jazz masters?
I hope they drop a real nuke.
🤞
I don’t know anyone else, but I’m celebrating fallout month instead of celebrating one day
Listened to Johnny Cash, Stars of the Midnight Ranger, Big Iron, in the Shadow of the Valley and more on my way to Universal
Lately, I been getting into MTG. Everytime my roomie and I play, we put on some fallout tracks and it helps keep the mood up even when we're tryna ruin the other's plan. lol
If a fallout 3 remaster was ever created, what do yall think would change, besides the graphics and stuff like that.
I'm thinking the green filter would probably be removed
If Fallout 3 remastered is created I expect Virtuos will probably improve faces and add some new hairstyles, as they did with Oblivion Remastered.
I'm not the biggest fan of the green filter but it's a big part of the game's charm so I'd say the best way to handle it is to reduce it but not completely get rid of it.
Like keep it in areas that are heavily destroyed with a lot of nuke craters around like the DC mall.
But remove it from areas away from the main city where there's no craters nearby
Kinda hoping they let us toggle it, if it ever happens. But I do want a more colorful wasteland to re-explore.
Yeah I agree
Right... Thats bc it uses the old microsoft direct X thing to verify things
Plus the relics from ye olden "Read Only From Disk,"
Oh it works now?
If it does it again, just give your system a sec. And save regularly.
I hope there are more pip boy updates
I hope they keep the green filter
It made 3 visually distinct. I wish they'd go back a little bit to it's artstyle. But eh
Think there just should be a option to turn on/off
I’ve been trying to find a list of the fallout creatures. All of them but each one separated by games. Like creatures in fallout 1 then 2 and so on. I’m making an art piece of all of the, but can’t find a good list? Where can I find one?
Will we have crossplay on Fallout someday ...
15 years of New Vegas is insane... i remember playing that the day of the games launch and i just absorbed myself into it. im well aware it was made by Obsidian but still
The launch was a complete disaster. The PC version was broken, and the PS3 version was unplayable.
Im home, I went to Halloween Horror Nights last night and loved it!!
The Master is still the best fallout antagonist
The bar isn't really that high tbf
But yeah Master is definitely the best of the bunch
I got fallout bundle lets go
For the love of god we need a fallout remaster of 3 or NV 😭 im tired of playing 4 on PS5 (not even gonna touch 76 lol) Xbox has the luxury of playing both And the DLC
Just finished dead money, what a great dlc, reading the reviews of it I was unsure of whether I even wanted to buy and try it but I’m glad I did. I only found one part frustrating which is pretty good considering the reviews say it’s all frustrating
I even left behind the gold bars in the spirit of letting go
How long have the 76 servers been down?
AWS is having an outage which is affecting several platforms/services, including Fallout 76. Should be back to normal once that outage has been resolved!
Bethesda has sorted out its site all is Green
As long as it includes its DLC also
Unnecesary remake
I'd rather have a remake that fixes a lot of the problems and has a construction set than a bland remaster
Fallout: Mexico 🇲🇽
But really, any location outside U.S. would be cool for "spin-offs."
Do y'all think Cajun, zydeco or swamp pop music fits the fallout athstetic?
I have an idea for a mod but am not fully sure how much making a mod full of licensed songs is gonna set me back. I want a nice Louisiana based radio station. Perhaps one to rival the Blue bayou radio mod on Nexus.
Some songs come to mind like the gumbo song, chickens on the run and it ain't gonna rain no more all from Moe D and Moe D Too. Because those are some nice sounding ones that is sure to bring up spirits in the harsh Boston area.
Not entirely sure how much it's gonna set me back though to license those songs as I know nothing about synchronization and master rights for songs And I hope it ain't gonna be like crazy out the wazoo expensive as this will be a simple radio mod made to be free for anyone to enjoy, jam and listen to.
Also do I need a master and sync agreement to use AI songs too? There's this one vault tec based audio track I kinda wanna use for a small micro ESL mod. Which would be literally just adding that one song to the game for players who have the vault tec workshop mod.
Mardi Gras is enough to bring up any spirit, including the dead, lol.
What do y'all think, F3 or FNV remaster announcement in 3 days? I'm hoping FNV
Fallout is indeed peak ladies and gentlemen
I think it's gonna be a Fallout 3 remaster, or a Fallout 4 anniversary edition.
If it is being worked on, I doubt we'll hear about it for atleast a couple more years. It did take them about 4 years to finish the oblivion remaster.
I'm expecting an update for FO4, 76, Shelter, and a clip from the show. Nothing crazy this year.
Can we put a minigun lazer in a helicopter
Theoretically, but it would be a nightmare to implement from a modder's perspective.
Vertibirds are actually a fancy kind of furniture, and the minigun mount is linked to it.
Then why do they like lazer Guns but miniguns are there
Yes
Imagine that a soldier gets in front of you after you launch a missile at the enemy then both of you die
does somebody know how long these service on fallout 76 take a time ?
That's standard Bethesda Video game design, Jethro. It's not just BoS. Imagine a coding system not smart enough to teach the NPCs not to step in front of a sniper with his eye on the scope. I've shot my NPCs in the back an embarrassing number of times. And it'll take however long it takes, Mily. It's Bethesda.
Since they are prepping to launch Burning Sands, I would guess at least a couple more hours
Err... Burning Springs lol oops. got my s words mixed up
It's not just Bethesda. Most rpgs have janky npc ai.
yes and no. I don't remember having that problem with Mass Effect. But Starfield, Fallout, and Elder Scrolls... The NPCs won't stay the hell out of my way. I agree NPC ai is a joke across the board, but BGS' NPCs seem to be especially stupid, when it comes to getting in the PCs way in combat
which is why once I finish their loyalty quests, most NPCs get stuffed in a settlement and forgotten about
I specifically remember it being a massive headache in Mass Effect 2
The squad ai is godawful in that game.
It's single handedly one of the main reasons why it's my least favorite ME game
Bethesda's AI however has improved quite a lot over the years. Starfield's ai is pretty decent
I think ME 2 is most ME fans least favorite of the 3 (not including ME:A, for a reason)
MEA is my 2nd favorite. Just behind ME3
ME1 third, 2 last. I don't hate it but there's plenty i dislike about 2
Squad ai being one of the major issues
I did actually like ME:A. Just think it should've been a launch of completely different franchise. Like Starfield. Should've been taken completely out of the ME universe, to shut all the Shepard fanboys up
It took too much criticism for being in the ME universe and not having Shepard
But back to Fallout
The clunky animations criticism was warranted
Let's take the Mass Effect discussion to #off-topic folks.
I think Bethesda's ai is pretty on par with other western rpgs
Just comparing NPC AI behavior, so it's relevant
Bioware, Obsidian and even CDPR is often criticized for npc ai
They have improved over the years. Like FO4's ai isn't perfect but it's significantly better than 3/NV's ai
I don't know about that... I don't remember the sniper being anywhere near as annoying as Preston
And Grandma Mutant was kinda funny
Boone? Try and give him anything other than a sniper and he's terrible. The only reason he's not that annoying is because he stays FAR away from enemies
It's the general trend. Ranged companions are good enough but melee npcs are a mess
Pizza's burnin
I hate Veronica in combat with a burning passion
Like stop getting in my way while I'm trying to shoot something
I'm the same way with Sam in Starfield. I'll shoot him in the face, on general principle, just to put him in a down state, so he'll stay the hell outta my way
I give developers a bit of a pass on this. Iin fast-paced real-time action it's nearly impossible for coding to predict what a player is going to do.
Yeah it's a problem with almost all rpgs. Starfield if anything is a massive improvement over prior games
True. Where I don't give them the pass, is when the enemies literally dodge bullets. If I'm point blank range, and fire, and the enemy jumps sideways, causing me to miss, I call BS on the game engine
We are playing Marvel Superheroes
aren't
That's a feature tho. Enemies are designed to try and dodge attacks
Dodging an arrow (elder scrolls) is one thing. That's maybe 300 fps. Dodging a bullet that's doing 3000 fps is a whole different story.
I mean you can do it as well. That's just how it works. Move out of their line of fire and they'll miss
Oh, I know. This is just kinda where my brain went when Wyrd talked about giving the devs a pass for NPCs getting in the way because the engine can't predict our actions
If it can't read our minds, then it sure as hell shouldn't be able to violate the laws of physics either
anyway. gonna see if 76 is out of maintenance yet. been fun
oh cool. Didn't realize they had started doing 76 related titles. are those self-assigned or requested?
figured it out
hmmm... it won't let me self-assign Responders, Foundation, or Blue Ridge. Just the generic FO 76 new and player role
nope, still in maintenance
Well. guess I should do something productive with my day off. Put up some Halloween decorations, or something. Catch yall later.
I think we need a more powerfull tactical nuke
It's been so long since I played the game (just coming back, now that there's NPCs), I don't even know where the popular spots are to nuke anymore. Whitesprings used to be THE spot, back when TSE was a thing.
and I got tired of Black Desert
Idk what the opening will be for F5. But I think it'd be pretty cool if we start out as one of the bomber pilots dropping the nukes. Let us get that bird's eye view of it all below. Before flying back to base to get into a militarized-style vault and go from there.
If not the bomber, then in a nuclear submarine launching nukes would be alright too before retreating to a highly-classified underwater military base.
I like the nuke sub thing... would let them finally make a N'Awlin's game.
There could be a huge naval battle going up above, you look out the windows of the sub seeing the sinking ships and bodies. Sharks having a feeding frenzy.
True, but it's a fantasy.
Idk, maybe look thru the telescope thing
Nvm, apparently there have been windows on subs before and it's in a past setting, so it could work.
Nukazilla in the Gulf.
ATP I’m seeing so much advertising for FNV we’re bound to get something tomorrow
Or atleast for 3 I’ll take either
Anyone else on xbox, having problems with the fact that bollots of the 6 keeps crashing as well as it keeps telling you that it
Needs to update, but you know it's updated and there is no extra update for it.
Nothing ever happend.
any special in fallout da
Happy fallout day
me while im waiting for the video https://tenor.com/view/deathclaw-gif-2329806922847431974
Happy fallout day
Ain't it a great day to be American and have a Vault spot reserved. Im sure this war will be over in no time 😃
war not change
Warfare changes. People change, faction change, but war never changes. What will never change about war is the effects and results of war involving death, destruction, greed, famine, human suffering and loss. Even after the bombs dropped, there will always be war.
So is the double-xp on or not?
Indeed there will be war, and there will be sorrow and there will be sorrow
Thinking an actual update to fallout 4 or just some fo76 and TV show stuff?
War changed. Send help.
Fallout day theories anyone?
Fallout 3 remaster possible , talk about fallout good springs day and a fallout 4 update that destroys mods again
Oh and 76 next big update and whats in it
No remasters. Better
Shelter? And this wouldn’t be first time Bethesda dropped something on us
Playing music? It is good I’m kinda wishing they did silly brand commercials
It's fine, hope they play country roads or rocket 69 lol
Man i was hoping they'll play the Fallout theme. Kinda tired of them using Inkspots everywhere
I mean they're good but like there's other things
Atom bomb baby
I got my wish xD
Hey inkspots is the icon song for 3 so I figured they use it alot
So is the main Fallout theme. Use that
Wanted longer version haha
Someone said "she can play my violin 💀😂😂😂
Ooo it's starting
I still got sound on YouTube
Mines back it just went weird
Fo4 damn 10 years
Yep xD been so long
Yup the skyrim treatment
Then again I heard they changing creation club and mods to creations like Skyrim
Hey not bad
I do wish for more mod space
CC was the beta of creations
If creation clubs will be included to the space now
Slice of mojave to commonwealth ?
NV I bought it while it was cheap as cheap xD
Have they announced fallout 3 remaster?
NCR patch sweet
Heck ill buy thay
Also could someone explain the hog? I know the dog but I feel like i missed some lore
I think 76 is getting the new hog as pets in next update
Ahhhh
Uhh oh 😂😂😂😂 gonna love my feed today
Man one of my students told me the fallout mazd is freaken awesome
What... Fallout 4 repackaged, New Vegas only gets an upgraded collectors edition release no Remaster of 3 or New Vegas? What kind of mickey mouse shenanigans is this?!?!?!
Hey its still slightly more than they promised in that atleast
Since they listed what would be talked about more or less
We already knew FO4 was getting a creations update... Fallout 3 and New Vegas need a remaster badly for todays hardware to larger displays...
Huh fallout shelter has ultracite from 76?
Good name
youtube chat needs to chill for a minute
Im not even going to look at that pit xD
lol it is mad
Man that reminds me I gotta hunt the monthly axolotl
I was happy with camp update best camp/ settlement Building.
Into the thunderdome!
Time to go follow some cultists to Ohio
F76 cooked hard
Bounty hunting time!
💔
Warm or cold
I’m so sad, what am I gonna do with my switch lite now😔💔
Might have to see if my old faction WVR is still kicking around
Its papa Howard
Tor a one more thing?
Welp time to wait some more years till fallout game or remaster
Wes!
They re launch new vegas ultimate edition but only for PC im on playstation and i had to play the old ps3 laggy version ☠️
Im doomed
Im on xbox so it’s atleast decent better than ps3 version
Aww river is such a good pupper
Is river the new doggo I was pretty sure the one from 4 passed sadly
Yeah kind of a kick in the gut to us ps fans.
Haaaa. No remasters
Why say ha about it?
I never likes remasters o remakes
It wasn’t going to happen today anyway
And Fallout 3 and NV dont need that
We got baited so hard.
No she's still alive in our hearts 💔
Have you seen NV on pc and ps3/4?? they need remasters
Not really. No one should have expected remasters
I just got my tale of two wastelands to stop crashing every 10 minutes im fine fir now
The dont give a damn about us actually 76 is even more crashing ps5 or ps4
Not really why should you have to install mods for the game to work? And ps4/5 fans are just left out to dry?
They almost got me baited. First there's a re-release of New Vegas with no new content, now yet another anniversary update for Fallout 4 that would once again break everyone's mods. And the announcement of Burning Springs that tells everything we already know.
I never have a problem
I can’t even play it on ps4
The remasters are probably still 2-3 years away. I don’t want them to rush them out just because people want them.
Then you are lucky I’m glad my sword S nv doesn’t have as many issues still crashes a few times
It’s sad
Anyone else feel the need for any info on the remasters in order to do damage control for the stream today?
I'm not really surprised by the stream at all, I'm honestly just a bit disappointed.
Anyway. Fallout 4 AE
They will somehow break mods in some way
Will probably break a load of mods and crash more crashes
lmao that's a certainty
Not even a ptach to fix everything they broke in the next gen update....
I should keep my expectations very low for now on. Like as low as a pessimist.
more like it's very disrespectful but what can i say you canot force pepole to notice you at some point
Probably best I guess I got my hopes up thx to how they dealt with oblivion.
Saw someone say that their expectations were ground level but BethSoft dug underneath them lmao
Yeah, that's also why I feel disappointed because I was hoping for remasters of the fallout games.
Same but nope..Welp back to trying to play 4 where I crash if I level up twice and add perks
I guess I'll just keep mine at Vault level then
With how they handeled the Oblivion remaster. I honestly am not excited for those. Oblivion remaster is still bugged down and not an update in sight.
Most of the things they announced are basically nothing we already know except another Fallout 4 update that breaks mods once again.
Well I hope no one who hasn’t bought fallout yet buys fallout 4 while it’s on sale atm
In essence: womp womp
Listening to "it's all over" after this stream 😂😂😂😂
lol
facts
yup, except for the crying
back to the grind i suppose. laters peeps
they specifically said there would be no release announcements. you played yourselves. its not their fault.
Then Todd says they read out comment. Um, sir, it does not look like y'all read much of anything.
so excited for the fallout shelter update!!! 🥳
Enjoy it, I’m gonna start up a new game level up and go meet ulysses
Did they say a price on the anniversary edition?
I don't believe they have yet
Probably between 50 or 70
Fallout new Vegas ultimate edition, literally the exact same 2010 game. What a sick joke
Literally the exact same game. Skyrim had at least an ukgrade from 32 to 64
Glad to see the game still struggles above 60 fps 
Friendly reminder we do not discuss drama from other servers here.
that reasonable
Another day: another Bethesda opportunity squandered
There was once a time when this was my favorite company. That was about 15 years ago.
Go to bethesda's website. It looks like it's $155 USD
@lone furnace can I link it or are links disabled?
That's the NV thing I think
If it's an official site link then it's fine.
Oh, my bad. I thought that's what you were referring to
The FNV one in case anyone was curious
Not a bad fallout day imo
well that was a big fat slap in the face if I ever saw one
Source?
could have been something that brought Bethesda back from the bottom with all the New Vegas hype and figurines and promotional items they are releasing but no effing remake info at all
their own social media go look at it.
MacFarlane toys are releasing a Benny and Courier figurine as well
Well I'm hoping that they increase the mod limit, make SS2 and AR2 semi-official creations for free perhaps even with patches and small improvements in them, and that's because doing something with SS2 and AR2 (the most popular quest mods and AR2 would make the Enclave in vanilla way way better and SS2 has Vault Tec as the ultimate big bad with a Moon base so that'd also fit their new plot of evil VT) would just make sense, plus increasing mod space on consoles would make people very happy
You need to be more specific than that. I mean a direct source. A link. I want to be proven wrong. Please back your case. Even what you say is true, not many people know about that.
sorry but it is their fault. They shadow dropped Oblivion and are promoting New Vegas in multiple ways, they built up hype before they even listed that info.
What do you all think about this?
they also didn't mention that NV figurine in the list or anything NV related. They could have dropped more info as a surprise which they didn't want to list on that link which I believe is what people were hoping for
I believe they could have at the very least confirmed a remake is in the works. I have a feeling they are in development (i.e. Project Platinum) but SOMETHING for us to hold onto
The Oblivion release is not what surprised Bethesda fans the most. We were foreseeing a possible re-release. What surprised us the most is how Oblivion got visual upgrades and some change of gameplay and changes to NPCs in general. That's what surprised us about Oblivion Remaster. We were hoping for an announcement or at least acknowledgement that people want Fallout NV remaster or Fallout 3 remaster or both. But we were overhyped enough to get our hopes up.
We're not trying to be greedy or not trying to ask for so much; not like those entitled spoiled people. We just want to hear something new.
Anyone know if unmodded save game files will transfer over from the current version of Fallout 4 and if there’s any increase in Xbox mod limits?
If not where best to get an answer for this?
side note, I believe we will get a Skyrim Remake before Fallout 5 imo xD
in the announcement they stated that it was for existing games. f3 and NV may be existing but their remasters are not. they did not hint at the remasters being mentioned. that was just people hyping themselves up with no evidence to back it up but "trust me bro"
They didn't hint anything for NV, yet NV content was in the livestream
NV is an existing game. try again.
A game Bethesda did not make.
so is Fallout 4 and Fallout Shelter
still a fallout game
my point is that beth didn't promise you remaster info. you hyped yourself. you are just mad that you were wrong.
Dude, are you just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian? I'm not trying to bash Bethesda. I'm stating my disappointment of the stream because I care about Bethesda and their games. If I didn't like Bethesda and their games, I wouldn't be having this conversation.
they hyped a lot of people for the reasons I explained before
I'm not being contrarian I just disagree with you.
Trying to find excuses to make our complaints and disappointment invalid is being contrarian.
if you campare this to previous fallout day streams it was par for the course. that was community hype. beth doesn't have to obey it.
Bethesda encouraged that community hype
my point is that your disappointment is self-inflicted.
Let's move on please
it's not self inflicted
a majority of people were setup for disappointment
anyway
it's good they are looking at a PS5 version for Fallout 76
Fallout da-disappointment
Ah bounty hunting
I didn't even know today was Fallout day. Even if I knew I probably wouldn't have tuned in. Last year was terrible
preaching to the choir bro
"we at bethesda have a new exciting brilliant product FALLOUT 4 REMASTER" i genuinely would not be shocked if they do ts
It's literally been so long since we've had a good open world RPG that I started working on one. Got to put this near decade's worth of modding knowledge to use
hell yeah im betting it will have less bugs than most releases now days
Please do not bash. We welcome constructive criticism, but just bashing the company is against the #rules
obsidian goated
I say these things with love from a broken heart 💔
Does it still break the rules?
Im sorry but an as-is code in a box of new vegas with a low budget looking victor statue for $155 might be the most insulting announcement Bethesdas ever had. Especially when NV goes on sale almost weekly at this point for a dollar or two.
Wonder if switch 2 will be able to run mods on fo4
I was putting in honest work for society, so I missed out the fallout day content. Any key points?
Fo4 anniversary plus switch port. 76 is gonna get a next Gen update, shelters is getting seasons, fallout hope stuff, and I think thats it
You think Nintendo would allow downloading external content?
Highly unlikely
If they did, I doubt mods would work on switch 2
Switch 2s would turn into mininukes
Oh they are also releasing a collectors edition or something for New Vegas. No remaster or anything. Just the PC Ultimate editon and a bunch of goodies.
Out of all those things, why does only the first thing interest and confuse me. I thought fallout 4 could run on steam deck? Why is it getting it's own custom version? Does the switch need additional optimization or something?
I think anniversary is also for the other platforms
Unnecesary remaster
It's not a remaster. Its the exact same version as the one on steam for $2.49 right now.
The only new thing about it is the box, some stickers and badges and a statue.
Yeah like $1 for them to make and they net $149 in profit. Sweet deal right?
I know
I love this company's games but that just screams "we see NV fans as cash cows".
@lilac moss It's not about an FNV remaster being necessary: it's about "you're charging us for the SAME THING AGAIN?"
If you re-release something, there should be something special about it. They're basically just selling $150 worth of merch and throwing in an FNV steam code
I dont care
Does it even include every single paid creation club item? If so maybe it would be decent to have a base with everything instead of front loading, encrypting and hiding the key behind a pay wall.
I don't even think they finished the fixes from the last free update
It does. All 150 CC
Pretty sure the game breaks if you have every creation club item installed so you'd be doing yourself dirty
And some new/unreleased ones too
I am not speaking from experience regarding this. If anyone can verify if this has been fixed, that'd be cool
I don't think it was ever an issue. Plenty of content creators have bought all the cc in the past to try out
and they work fine in Skyrim too
This is going to sound like a sibling being jealous of his older brother, but It always felt fallout got second fidle in terms of quality and content.
Atleast it's finally getting it's due update. Better late than never
yeah I can agree to that I think.
I'm not looking forward to creations shop tho.
ever since they made that one quest hook for starfield and basically advertised a paid mod to be the one to expand it, rubbed me the wrong way.
It's like if automaton gave you eda, and the robo brain hunt side quests but the rest required a paid mod for both parts and the final quest run in with the mechanist
felt wrong
There's Good and bad sides to it
Some of the creations are pretty good and worth the money. Some are cash grabs.
Just gotta look out
Will we at least get a discount if we own fallout 4?
Apparently Skyrim SE owners were just given the AE for free when it came out
Might be us GOTY owners are treated the same. If not I'd wager it'll be available as an upgrade/dlc for the base game
HAPPY FALLOUT DAY 💣 (sorry for saying it late)
Are they just reselling new vegas?
NV plus a statue and some stickers
Really barebones for the price that one
Could've atleast packaged a vinyl for the soundtrack or something
@raw comet
What’re everyone’s thoughts on the livestream?
lately I feel like 76 is slowly but surely infecting other fallout ip's I get its improved, but there somethings I really feel like should be exclusive to 76 and not cannnonized. Like how ultracite has become this almost marvel like vibranium. Nothing feels like a mobel game than a new "exciting" rare currency that makes something more powerful across the board.
In my opinion, I think they should focus on a different game. Like a new fallout game.
With the new expansion taking place in a different state, they could’ve used that location and make a new fallout game. I really wanna know the mindset behind their latest decisions
thats basically how I feel like what they do for 76 in the ohio expansion.
Yeah I think they’re beating a dead horse
I wish they cared about what we thought, but it is what it is
Also I'm afraid that they might carry over "camp" levels for guns, or perk cards. I very much like the og skills, ammo types, and skills from new vegas and 3
I agree
I have this bad feeling that the next fallout game will have things to pivit folks to the online mmorpg
They don't care what Fallout fans want. They care about what makes their investors happy. And what makes the investors happy is getting more normies to buy re-releases and microtransactions
I wouldn’t really call it that. It’s kind of a storefront
Unfortunately that’s probably how it is
To this day I believe fallout should of done a multiplayer like fromsoft and not so much a mmorpg. But I will admit camps and settlements do have potential Id like to see.
If only
coop, and invasions with cool messages left by mohave express
Wasn’t their slogan something like “we want to make games that we want to play” I haven’t heard anyone say that in a while
💰
Who said that?
I remember hearing it in one of their old videos
the last post I saw was "good kitty" sometime in september
Bethesda?
Like those documentaries they used to do a long time ago
We don't talk about that post 💀
we shouldn't forget it though.
I need to hear about this lol
Oh trust me. I have not forgotten.
Look up "Bethesda Twitter post backlash"
I've just committed to not buying anything besides something I actually want from them due to posts like that and feeling like we aren't heard. Love bgs, some of the best games ever, but money can't be everything
I remember there being backlash whenever they tried to make Nate into a war criminal
Keep it on topic please
Damn I just finished the livestream. That could’ve been an email 😭
I haven't gotten to play the 76 new area yet, it looks really cool at least. Going to at least check it out when it comes
The Ohio dlc?
honestly though I got a job and don't have the time to be as disappointed as I usually am, if it goes on sale I'll pick up the aniv.
I thought it was a live service free expansion, they charging like wow now?
@carmine forum I dm'd you about it since we'll keep this chat all about Fallout
Alr give me a bit. @ me in like an hour
I just call it a dlc because it’s downloadable content
Now something I think they could super benefit from would be cross platform support for 76. But then again they are stable enough with that game, wouldn't want to break it
I don't think that works because that mean any patches and updates would be dlc and dlc is usually or at least historacally had been massive expansions
They mean the same thing
Someone try taking bethesda to court about that cause the expansion pass didnt contain thier "mini dlcs"
They said what they were going to talk about and that's what they did. It's about on par with what i expected. Only dissapointment was the NV collectors edition being kinda lackluster
Not always. NV had the preorder dlc
yeah but that was obsidian
Can I get some of the better PC mods on Xbox? Like sim settlements?
Bethesda had that stuff too. Horse armor dlc
fallout 3 didnt have this I think
I kinda wish they did more of that makes sense
All i really got is that they’re updating games that should be left behind and not have any developers on anymore
That's exactly what they said they were going to do. People went ahead and started thinking they'll have remasters and what not
I expected an anniversary edition for FO4 and that's what i got. I'm happy.
True, it’s just not what people want 😔
I didn’t really properly understand that part. What all comes with it?
Why
Why is this undying support for Bethesda still happening
Base game + all the CC packs bundled in just like skyrim
I don't have undying support for them. I've wanted an anniversary edition that bundles all the cc long before this
😔
It's way cheaper than individually buying all of them
Which really isn't worth it
Everyone who already bought them is now scammed lol
I get that they’re milking fallout 76 but why can’t most of the development go towards different games already?
that’s really funny
I mean, you don’t really get scammed. You get what you paid for
It already is. They're already all hands on ES6. This was just a small detour
Surprised this isn't a thing considering they're owned by Microsoft who did this for Minecraft (so as to maximize microtransactions)
I feel like I’ve heard this before
It entered early dev near the end of 2023
I would literally go back to being a 76 whale if I could play with my PC friends on my Xbox
Todd said they teased it way too early. Actual work only began roughly 2 years ago
Real
Now they're all hands in on it
Yeah I wanna know why they teased it at all lol
I will never understand buying Creation Club content. It doesn't even look worth being free, never mind paid for. Very few exceptions where the content is solid like "prototype gauss rifle"
Skyrim AE with the creation club content is honestly pretty cool. I still find new things in my survival playthrough recently. I'm just praying the fallout 4 update is like that
I like a bunch of the CC items. The classic 10mm pistol and Manwell rifle sets are nice
But paying for them individually is really not worth it which is why i wanted an AE that just budles all of it in for cheaper
Saw some weird mole rat looking enemies in the trailer 👀
thats funny
What’s up Dexter Morgan lol
theyll never move on
2030
fallout skyrim ultimate anniversary ultimate bundle edition
Might as well lol
£150
ultimate creation club
ultimate creation club is a new range of creation club items, only available if you purchse the ultimate anniversary bundle edition
costs £100 on top of that
i see the future, it looks bleak
Still though those announcements were WEAK
It was extremely disappointing I have to admit
They really were
As people were saying, all the information from Fallout Day could’ve been an email or something

At least the victor figure looks somewhat decent, but 150 bucks just isn’t worth what you’re getting man
How long Was the live stream today? I missed it but last year I remember it being like all evening. Seems like it was short this year but I can’t find it on YouTube
Is fallout New Vegas going to get a compatibility update, I can't play it on my 4080 it crashes instantly. Even with the mods that are meant to fix it.
I've wanted to replay it for maybe 5-6 years now but I can't anymore.
Man i lost the fallout day stream
Console isnt awful
Backwards compatibility on the Series X is solid and I haven’t really ran into much crashes and such
Hey does anyone know if the ncr veteran ranger backpack is gonna be back in stock anytime soon?
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all seem like they don't want to commit to backwards compatibility
I want to play all my Xbox games on the newest Xbox, all my PS games on the newest PlayStation, and all my Nintendo games on Switch 2, without having to pay for their online
Playing the old Fallout games on PS5 is a death sentence lmao, you can’t get the DLC’s and you can only stream the game, you can’t buy it.
I have a little bit of everything, 360 Fat and S, One S and X, Series X, PS2 fat and slim, PS3 non BC fat and super slim, GameCube, first generation Wii, switch, and a PC
I also have to mention that Fallout 3 and NV isn’t awful on Xbox One and the loading times are better than on 360 and PS3 for sure
Oh and a Sony PSP
Bethesda sure knows how to listen to feedback
And ignore it
The sarcasm is strong with this one. 🤣
And do the bare minimum, yeah.
like… rereleasing fallout 4 again!
Hi just want to ask is there anyway to watch the Fallout for Hope post show. I missed the live broadcast
Oh, and New Vegas too
I’ve studied marketing. While I am no gaming expert I can add that this is a terrible move
I can already foresee review bombing
https://falloutforhope.com/ Not sure. You can check their website. I had to miss a lot of it. I don't know how much they were able to raise. I hope they hit their $20k goal. Last I saw they were at 10k.
Fallout day sucked
Anyways-
[Everyone disliked that]
Ill give my actual opinion on this fallout day stream when I have time trust-
But I am not spending 150 dollars for a non-remastered fallout nv.
The bundle is nice but.. nnno...
CRAZY 💀
The word "tone deaf" perfectly describes this
Danny Trejo wants Bethesda to remaster New Vegas. Raul has spoken. In the words of Raul; "Remaster New Vegas Boss! 🔥 "
I'm not making this up. It's real. That's the real source. https://x.com/officialDannyT/status/1981047466628960489
They re-re-re-re-released Skyrim (base, Legendary, Special, Anniversary, Switch and VR/next-gen) while also launching Fo76 and Starfield in a badly optimized state. While I am not part of that group that "dogpile and treats them the same way either way", it leaves a precedent as for how they handle their IPs and products with the player base (their customers) . They could've brought Obsidian for the FNV remaster and that get a full-on 180 on the scope of things, but decided to run a cheap shot with re-releasing Fallout when it's already on next-gen, all while launching FNV "collector's edition" with knock-off TEMU Victor and price it for $155+/$270 CAD for "their loyal fans".
So the criticism, while harsh, is much warranted because they stoked the flames for it.
I never said I agreed with their choices. I'm just not surprised.
Don't even want to add the "Feedback" section from before today.
||because there is none||
are you surprised? look at how people responded to no remaster info when none was promised. beth is not an angel by any means but some people are acting like entitled children.
Fair, there is much entitledness on that. But admit it, they had the chance for remaster and blew it up
a chance yes. but if the remaster isn't ready they will get roasted for that. if it isn't ready they are better off not showing anything. the ES 6 teaser taught them that.
I do wonder how much of this is todd.
cause if when he leaves all this changes for the better we will have that answer.
not that I hate him.
I don't hate him. But I don't like him
thats basically where I am at.
Well if Danny says it, then I'm for it.
I'd love to see him voice act for future Fallout titles too. Or even get a role in the Fallout TV series.
Ah, brings back memories of "Call of the Dead." 😂
They honestly did.
NV is 15 years old now and they could have given us something.
Well, at least NV getting some life in S2 of the tv series.
It's a bit dissapointing that no remaster for either Fallout 3 or New Vegas were announced. If not this year, then maybe next year. That said, Bethesda released a roadmap of what was happening today. People knew well in advance. Problem is that in situations like this, people set their expectations too high, and when those expectations aren't met, they get angry.
Honestly there really shouldn’t be any expectations if we’re talking about Bethesda
I mean either one could be "shadowdropped" like how it went with TES: Oblivion remaster.
Yea, they could have. But I think they'd want a big reveal to go along with that drop. They did the same with Oblivion Remaster.
Might be a long shot but does anyone have a copy of the fallout 1 survival guide by William Keith that they're looking to be rid of or sell off??
It's not disappointing there is no remaster. It's disappointing that new Vegas is still unplayable on pc without mods.
Bethesda have to fix this.
“Bethesda” Doesn’t care it doesn’t make them “money” sorry Todd I meant to say “The fans don’t want it”
Apparently the fans want a cartoon game with Godzilla and giant mole monsters I guess 76 does have a fan base because I’ll either be muted or bombed with replies anyways install mods if you can that might fix it
Wasted time 😔
I already said this earlier today, Bethesda set up this hype and disappointed themselves! They didn't list anything for a remaster yes but the hype with all the New Vegas stuff leading up to this AND the unexpected clip of the guys who worked on New Vegas during the Livestream talking about the 15th anniversary was a crude setup by Bethesda to insult everyone. It was intentional malice by Bethesda how they approached this and the anger and frustration by everyone is completely justified. They didn't have to promote the guys at Obsidian or even mention the 15th year anniversary but they chose to.
And no it’s not Microsoft, Microsoft have publicly stated that they have requested Bethesda to speed up the fallout stuff since it’s their biggest IP
Microsoft KNOWS it's about money, and Bethesda is digging their heels which doesn't make business sense
even Shelters continues to get support and updates. They’re getting a freakin battle pass after like 10 years
yet they won't release Fallout Shelter Online in the West which is such a better game. I play it on my phone and it's so much better than Shelter. Just another wasted opportunity.
I'm just surprised the guys on the Fallout 76 team were able to convince Todd to add New Vegas items in the game. It shows that they care about their work and listen to the fan base
there is no evidence that todd hates new vegas. that is just a conspiracy theory spawned out of reddit.
todd even came out to say that the ncr is not dead with the loss of shady sands.
This is gargantuan levels of stretching all to try and believe they purposefully set everyone up for dissapointment
They've been repeatedly telling everyone that this isn't supposed to be a big event. It goes far beyond just that list they posted about what they'll talk about.
If anyone thought they were getting something big that is very much on them
Like i won't say the event was perfect. I'm quite dissapointed in the lackluster anniversary bundle for NV (for 150 dollars no less).
But not once did they hype anything more than what they showed
Someone said "Bethesda will give us everything we want" when they never said that and now people are thinking they didn't get what was promised despite Bethesda saying what would be covered in the event
And now people are acting that being a Bethesda fan is like opening the hellraiser cube constantly
Like chill, stop being overdramatic, there are so many worse companies that do promise the sun and moon that end up under delivering
Fallout is not their biggest IP lol that's Elder Scrolls
The only people who set themselves up for disappointment are people who hyped themselves up despite Bethesda never going "we're going to give you all this cool stuff!!!"
Yeah fallout needs to be taken away from Microsoft. They simply are incapable to dedicate the resources and time fallout needs. A dedicated fallout studio should have been developed by Microsoft, because even a fallout 3 remaster is disappointing who wants to play a remaster for the weakest 3d fallout game
Nah Fallout and ES are more or less equally big. It's just that the last decade was entirely Fallout related. FO4, 76, the show. So ofcourse now they're focusing on ES
Also MS doesn't meddle into a studio's inner working all that much for better or worse. At best they just urge the leads to focus on something quicker.
So at the end it's still Bethesda's choice what they want to focus on.
They need to meddle more especially when their lack of meddling is hurting their ips and losing them fans.
I feel betrayed, as I have been a fan of Fallout NV since the PS3 era, seeing that no optimized version on PS4 was released, I had hoped that this Fallout Day would finally put an end to this interminable wait by offering at least the PlayStation player an upscaled port of FO3 and NV that runs at more than 30 fps, but no, obviously at Bethesta, it's all just a question of ego, I've had enough.
Yeah I'm done with them too
I'll pay outer worlds and then cancel my game pass. Won't bother with anything Bethesda related anymore
ESO is one of the top five mmorpgs whereas 76 isn't top in its genre, it's not been fallout dominated
What? They've had nearly the same number players as of now
Elder Scrolls modding communities are also more alive than fallout
Skyrim is also more played than fallout 3 or 4
That's the only place where ES is more popular
No lol
Yes lol. Revenue, player base is almost the same
their actions have spoken and many people are upset. Defending it won't change anything. Either they did it purposely or out of incompetence.When you have a history of doing it multiple times then it's no longer incompetence, it's a choice to let it keep happening.
Skyrim sold 30 million copies before the re releases.
Fallout 4 sold 25 million
People set themselves up for disappointment
Both NV and FO3 individually outsold Oblivion
This isn't on Bethesda this is on the community over hyping something and then going "but we were promised"
Oblivion sold like 9 million while 3 has sold 12 mil and NV 11 mil
Player base and revenue for both franchises is more or less the same. It's only the modding community that's more expansive on the ES side
Bethesda didn't even make this a big thing, they did like the bare minimum of advertising fallout day
No they literally haven't. People being stupid won't change anything
There are plenty who disliked the NV anniversary bundle which was a dissapointment for sure but the rest was fine
They never advertised anything more than what we got
they didn't advertise anything about New Vegas info yet they released a bundle and had the guys from Oblivion be a part of the livestream
Most people I know didn't even know fallout day was a thing that's how little it was advertised lol
They did. They literally said they'll talk about existing titles and nothing new
no they didn't. It was Fallout 76, Fallout 4 and Merchandise
Yes they did. Bruh. Read their Fallout day announcement post
it was literally listed on the tweet the night before
Yes that's what they said they were showing lol
nothing about Fallout New Vegas
i think bgs does not know the plot man, why are they releasing a ce for nv but dont remaster the game?????
You're getting angry you weren't shown more when they specifically said what they were going to show
New Vegas doesn't need a remaster
but they did
its not like its the games 15th anniversary and they are celebrating it
they didn't list anything related about Fallout New Vegas, they had a small segment for Fallout New Vegas from the guys at Oblivion and the Bundle
that's Not the tweet I'm talking about
Even on the list they said merch drops. That's what the NV announcement was. A big stupid victor statue and stickers. That's what was dissapointing but that's what they promised
This just feels like complaining for the sake of complaining
its not about them not saying anything and then they are out of the clear with fan expectations
the issue is that fans really want a remake/remaster and they arent listening
merchandise can be anything
It is a valid argument. You're twisting what they said to be dissapointed. They were VERY clear they won't do anything big
And it wasn't just NV merch drops. They merch dropped a bunch of other things
Now youre putting words in my mouth
That's understandable but the other guy is saying they purposefully misled fans about this event
Which they did not. It's exactly what they advertised
no they didnt
thank you, someone gets it
???
no there was not
No there wasn't
this was truly one of the streams of all time...
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I agree the NV bundle is a joke for charging 150 dollars but the event was exactly what they advertised
for me its just frustrating that fan feedback falls on deaf ears
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If people expected remasters, remakes and what not. That's entirely on them
Linkin random YT videos ain't really adding much to the argument
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now you're going to tell me I can't defend my side?
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What point? I know people are mad. I'm saying they're mad for wrong reasons
that's just THREE videos of the same exact point I just made. You're not going to be able to defend against the majority of what is proven
And the original argument was about misled advertising. What do these YT videos prove?
what I JUST said
You're trying to prove that a lot of people were mad at the event for expecting wrong things?
there is the copium for a remake of nv, and then there is the hopes that we ever get a new game
If hundreds if not thousands of people are saying they were misled, they were mislead. It's not up for debate
i just dont know to which community bgs is listening to
Yeah and they were literally wrong. Nowhere in those videos do they say Bethesda hinted at anything more than what we got
you didn't watch them
Right so tell me what proof they showed in their videos
I'm not here to hold your hand
I've given you more than sufficient prove, you don't want to look at it that's entirely on you
Well if you are intent on imagining things to be mad at have at it then
it's not imaginary
I think we might get a remaster of 3
you just don't want to be wrong. That's denial and proves you aren't willing to be open to clear evidence.
If they did one for Oblivion they'll definitely do one for 3
And if that's successful they could do one for NV as well
As for a new game. That's definitely further away
i belive it when i see it
I'd wager we might get it next year
they need to do more for the general fans not just the 76 ones
Thing is the last decade was entirely Fallout related so now they're primarily focusing on ES
what?
i mesn for me it doesent matter what setting the game just needs to be good
tho i like the fallout setting more than es
you're just making up random bs. Where on earth did the focus on ES come from??
es6?
Yeah i think the show revitalized interest in Fallout at a weird time
They were focusing on ES6 and Starfield then all of a sudden there's a surge of people wanting fallout
also remaking nv rn when outerworlds just came out ms would kill its own sales
so they decided to drop all Fallout focus a few hours ago and put 100% focus on ES?
Same day as Fallout Day and other fallout items being published and worked on?
Bro
"oh now we're changing gears and focusing solely on ES"
this guy is too much for me adios
those are YOUR words not mine. Don't bro me that's what you just said.
Same adios
you gonna show me evidence of that claim so I won't look at it as well?
Guys, I invented the exclamation mark. Take my word on it and don't question me or I'll leave 😂 what a joke some of you are.
The acceptability of this is what's most disappointing. The fact they can release Skyrim and now F4 multiple times like wringing you out like a towel, yet you smile and ask for more
having just watched both videos they dont prove your point. at all. beth didn't promise remasters. they didn't owe you remasters.
rifle gaming is an idiot. hes just reading comments and repeating the same beth bad talking points we've all heard a thousand times.
I guess we are all talking about the disaster that aired yesterday?
It was somehow even worse than last year
it was the same as last year. and the year before that. they are never going to use it for a mainline or remaster announcement.
Nevertheless they just disappointed the entire fallout community, I made a tiktok about it trying to shed it in a positive light and everyone was flaming me not a single person liked it
so? there are a lot of idiots out there who played themselves. the show wasn't great mind you but this reaction is just a bunch of whiney, entitled, children.
Bethesda better step up their game next year, fallout is an RPG franchise, not an MMO and a TV show
Literally every single fallout fan I know absolutely hated the presentation
I wasn't excited by it myself but I'm not crying about it.
All they did was reheat fallout 4, add a battle pass for fallout shelter, show us 76 content we already know everything about, and made a "special" edition for fallout new Vegas that's just the PC version for 150 dollars
the last one was a big L. the rest of it is just standard beth.
It was just so
It was just so irritating to see? You know? This franchise is huge and a cash cow and they never do anything with it
I don't even mind the fallout 4 rerelease, but did that have to be the big announcement?
fo 3,4,76 w/ multiple dlc is not nothing. games take time to make. so do remasters
No the problem is with fallout day is that they were advertising it to look like something very special, it literally showed up on my Xbox feed and everything
it was a low level stream that is never going to have big announcements.
just like every other bit of news they put out large or small
If it was so low level then why was it literally everywhere, it even showed up on steam and the Xbox and PS homepages
they put low level stuff everywhere dude
They got people excited over nothing, I'm looking at the comments of fallout day right now and I'm not seeing a single positive comment
they hype everything. this isn't new
I wasn't bothered by this because I went in knowing what to expect. the rest of you hyped yourselves with nothing to back you.
My expectations were low and I was still disappointed
How is that even possible
Why did I have to be cursed with fallout being my favourite game
you excited yourself based on your imagination not evidence. thats how.
There's only ONE thing from that presentation that I liked and that was fallout on vinyl showing up in the pre-show, I know them personally
Apart from that Bethesda disappointed their fanbase again, they could've avoided it by saying like a week prior that it wasn't going to be anything crazy and then people would've been fine about it
they did? they said it would only be existing titles. anyone who expected more played themselves.
I'm still very happy about fallout season 2 and fallout 76 but I think people have to realise that this is an RPG franchise
I don't like fallout I LOVE it
I feel like this conversation was going when I went to bed last night. Please do not bicker back and forth.
It's obvious people are going to be bickering, it's fallout day


I guess we just have to wait another year or two for something cool to come out, keep bringing me those fallout 76 updates 😀
Wait do Bethesda employees even look at 76 suggestions
probably. its just that not every idea is going to make it in.
Has something from that channel even been put into the game before
🤷♂️
Of course they do.
No I just had the impression that they didn't because Bethesda aren't exactly known to read the room
They CANNOT read the room
Why won't i when it's benefiting me? People who already had Skyrim didn't have to rebuy the whole game. They simply got an update
I doubt 4's AE would be any different.
Bethesda's fault? The fandom itself was hyped up thinking there would be something related to Fallout 3 or NV when Bethesda didn't confirm anything.
Guys, do you know if there will be a physical release for fallout 4 on switch 2?
Not anymore
Considering the last game came out in 2010?
Doubt it for now. Else they'd have mentioned it
Tho they might make physical copies later
The Elder Scrolls Online exists, The Elder Scrolls is still Bethesda's biggest IP so far, and since Bethesda is working on The Elder Scrolls VI, I'm actually more excited about the new TES than Fallout.
Switch 2 is roughly as powerful as a ps4 pro so i don't think that meme applies anymore
Tho downtown boston may still cause that
Also. ES and Fallout are almost equally big. Neither is significantly more popular than the other.
It's only the modding community that's bigger on ES than Fallout
As i previously said. Fallout 4 and Skyrim (before the re releases) sold roughly the same amount of copies. 25 mil and 30 mil.
FO3 sold 12 million while Oblivion sold 9 mil
When the re-release of Skyrim occurred less than 1 million sold opening week tho. So apples to oranges with this Fallout 4 re release
Not counting Nintendo players I suppose
Well FO4 hasn't been resold yet so we need to wait for that to get a count
We'll know in about 2 weeks
Tho when the show came out it topped sales charts in the UK so it's still quite popular.
Because god forbid people have discourse on discord
Fallout > ES. My op tho
If the discourse is arguing then true.
I just can’t get into ES. It’s not bad and I’ve played and beat Skyrim but that’s about it.
There is no beating Skyrim... there will always be more to do
But fallout? I can play it all day long
All day? Man. Ive been playing Skyrim for 14 years 👴
And with new mods constantly adding new content, its endless
Been playing fallout for longer 
Elder Scrolls Arena... 1994
Fallout 1... 1997. I win

I’m cooked
Fallout still better
Ouch
Longer what?
10 years?
Can we cook a human in the game
no but you can cook-cook
If I remember correctly that game is one of if not the most hated game ever
I don’t feel like yapping about this
Bethesda snd Todd hate the community 👍
ESO is literally one of the five most played MMOs alongside WoW, FFXIV, RuneScape and guild wars 2 lmao
Huh? What? No it's not
Yes it is
No it's not. WoW pulls like 6-8 million players per month
ESO is popular but nowhere NEAR wow or ffxiv
No it's not lmao. It passed like 25 million total players worldwide last year. Monthly playerbase isn't stated officially but it's estimated to be in the 100-200ks
Roughly the same number as Fallout 76 which passed 23 million players this year
?
"ESO isn't one of the big mmorpgs, it only has 25 million players" is a wild claim
100k-200k daily is also a lot of people
Where did I say it's bigger than WoW?
You said it's one of the top ones alongside WoW and FF. It's not even close
WoW has dominated the MMORPG market since 2004.
I said it's on the top five ALONGSIDE WoW, it's player count may not be as high but it's still extremely high
That's not correct either. There's a massive gap between all the mmos you mentioned and ESO
ESO is comparable to relatively smaller mmos like SWTOR
Fallout 76 is also not too far off from it at 23 mil players total
https://mmo-population.com/game/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn
https://mmo-population.com/game/world-of-warcraft
https://mmo-population.com/game/the-elder-scrolls-online
https://activeplayer.io/fallout-76/
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Like it is popular but definitely not one of the top ones
Copies sold also =/= active players. I own 76 for instance and haven't touched it in years
100k. Like i said.
I mean that applies to ESO as well
Also the 76 counter here only counts steam
ESO: 160,159
FFXIV: 129,879
These are today's player counts
Activeplayer io says ffxiv has a daily player base of 3 mil.
"FFXIV is an MMORPG and has approximately 3 million of daily active players 60% of those are from American Countries, followed by Europe of about 20%, Japan make up the 15% and Ocenia regions at 5%. Final Fantasy grew by 30% each year since 2019 with over 40 million registered players from 30 million from 2019."
My opinion of this Fallout Day (this is my opinion and I know im gonna get flamed regardless idc):
It was not good.
You mean to tell me you are gonna bundle the same NV game, not remastered and the same buggy mess as it always have been for 150/200 dollars with a figure, a pin, some stickers or smth?
In my opinion: if you are going to do a bundle like that, REMASTER. NEW VEGAS. dont give us the same game and expect us the cough up 150/200 dollars. the game is 2 dollars on steam. I am tired of new Vegas getting milked for money and not giving the proper love it deserves.
Not only this but fallout 4 on the switch 2? For probably 80 bucks? 20 bucks on steam.
If yall are actually hyped for these, good for you! Go out and experience what an amazing franchise fallout is!
But for me personally, this was a slap in the face.
New Vegas doesn't need a remaster
To me personally, it does 100%
I think the number you're mentioning only talks about steam? Or is it pc as a whole?
It's not Bethesda's fault that you and the rest of the fandom believed they would announce remasters when Bethesda didn't confirm anything.
Think it's PC as a whole because the steam count for both are lower
Hm. Then it must be consoles that have more players
Hold on that actually reminds me of something
Ehh its just my personal opinion lmao
Seems majority of 76's players are on consoles too. Guess console players love mmos more than pc
PC has more mmos than consoles so the player numbers for pc mmos are spread out more than on consoles
True. That could be the main reason
Me who plays ESO 🧍♀️
But back to my original point. 76 and ESO aren't quite that far off.
Atleast in terms of official numbers
ESO is still going strong from what I've seen and thats amazing to see
someone help me out i won the giveaway how do i claim ts 😭
A leak is not an announcement. Neither Microsoft, nor Bethesda Softworks nor Bethesda Game Studios have ever announced a remaster. Nor have they confirmed the existence of a remaster.
I can dream 😭
I'm surprised they haven't made a server tag for this discord.
Best you could hope for is some of the FSOnline content being ported
Bethesda straight trash
Wait does the seed repository exist in fallout?
If it does then many plants aren't dead but just need to be replanted.
Here whe go again
Here we go again? Has this same question been answered before?
Not you. The generic bethesda hater
Could learn a thing or two dozen from the Developers of BG3 about providing community desires and wants and learning to give what the community wants > Let’s keep working on 76, the only thing they tend to gaslight to hell and back.
I’ve played every one of their games from original fallout to 76 and Elder Scrolls arena to Skyrim and the recent remaster. 10 years since anything of a new fallout game, other then the floppy mess that is 76, and then we almost 15 years since another elder scrolls game, sorry oblivion remaster was ok, could have done better other wise it was nothing new. It’s a new fresh coat of paint over an old broken game that ironically was more buggy than the original. Lmfao.
Yep. The generic bethesda hater
With all do respect. Fallout 4 still has potential to be made grander. The last proper DLC was Nuka world and far harbor and all we've got is creation club stuffs since. I don't imagine it would be too much of an ask for a new full fledged FO4 dlc. Especially since they ported FO4 to modern consoles. It would be a nice thing to have more content other then some payed and non payed micro dlc.
^
Boy, do you know that Bethesda has a separate development team in charge of Fallout 76?
Who still finances that team?
Maybe if they want to consider more FO3 content. Perhaps a dlc based on capital wasteland stuffs that ISNT the creation club content.
Zenimax
With the licensed use of Bethesda, who still gives the green light to continue releasing dog 💩 content for a game that hardly gets touched.
With the release of FO Season 2 coming I do feel it would be a great time for some NCR paints and maybe a furniture pack if they wanna really utilize the hype of season 2 to their fullest advantage.
Meh. I never like the NCR
NCR, Kahn's, ECT ECT. All the major factions of the majave kinda thing. We all know the house deserves some representation. Not just the yes man helmet.
they could honestly do so much to revitalize Fo4
Meh
But they don’t care, 76 is their dead horse they wanna keep beating and then bringing out fallout shelter update, like who the heck actually plays that garbage micro transaction filled slop?
The actual 76 is a good game. And still alive after all thid years
It has no player base on PC, 76k was its all time peak of active players
With all do respect. 76 isn't that bad. It's built off of the frame of 04 with some mechanics from NV and 03 added like food and water stuffs and the repairing gear stuff which honestly is great. While I will agree micro transactions are a bummer. But it's a live service game. They need money to keep up the servers.
They barely can maintain 14k player average world wide via pc
12,138 players currently on PC, doesn't seem dead
When your game has fewer than 500 players, it's considered a dead game.
And FO:76 is not a dead game
Bro Destiny2 has a higher player count
And you think whe are talking about to destiny?
Bible
You know how pathetic that is? Especially with how crappy that game had/has been?
Mustard
The point is the did their big fallout event and the player numbers haven’t jumped at all.
I actually think it went down lmfao
Fallout day?
Yess Falloff day.
Do you really think an event that offers sneak peeks at new stuff was meant to increase player %?
First off. Distiny 2 was backing off of the success of destiny 1. Destiny 2 had a successful launch compared to FO76 which is their first propper online fallout game next to Fallout Shelter Online which isn't even available in the states.
Kinda the point, to build hype get people interested in playing again more actively, especially a mmo like setting 76 is ment to be, on average that’s normally what happens but I’m not talking about increased player number prior to Falloff day and after it significantly dropped about 2k active players
You wasn't around when FO76 first dropped. I wasn't either but I've heard from SOOOOO many veterans on the game saying that it was B.A.D. no question.
At launch mind you. It's grown heavily since then.
I was actually, played the beta and yeah it was worse then cyberpunk
Glitches galore, duppers everywhere causing constant instability in the servers it was not a good times
But comparing fallout to something like destiny is a bad example as your comparing a game that hardly works to a overwhelming success.
Compare it to day z and then talk your ass.
About that, dayz has 35k active players… lmfao
35k compared to 14.7k, that’s astounding that DAYZ is doing better that fallout 76
Well play day Z then. What are you doing here slamming 76 if you don't show even the slightest interest. Man I swear if fallouts drugs existed you'd be a psycho or buffout junkie.
I’m slamming a company that doesn’t give a 💩 about its player base or community and what they been asking for, for years now.
Not everyone has to get what they ask for. It can bring it down. Very much so. They can listen and figure out ideas to feature such but do they directly have to do as the fans ask? No.
10 years since anything new came to fallout other than a anniversary version of a 10 year old game that isn’t going to get any better and most likely isn’t going to be fixed since the next gen update, and for console players is most likely going to stay behind a 2 gb mod limit and nothing for elder scrolls for almost 15 years other than half assed remaster that I think is going to be overshadowed by the fan made free version.
Well this channel went sour fast after the anniversary, lol! Cheers 
Release a teaser trailer or nothing at all, can't win either way.
Should I do wild wasteland trait in new Vegas
Should you find various secrets only available from wild wasteland? Yes. Yes you should.
Ok thanks cause all the others kinda sounds booty
Only if you haven’t seen any of the Easter eggs. If you’ve seen the once you’ll see the same over again
It’s my 1st play through
Then yeah experience it one time then.
Alrighty
But it gets old after a couple of times seeing the same references over again.
Good luck finding all the Easter eggs 😉
How many are there
There’s quite a few of them. I think there’s like 13 or 14 of them. I’m not entirely sure.
But some of them have specific triggers you have to meet before they pop up
Ok thank you!
No problem. Have fun!
I still really enjoyed Oblivion Remastered tho, im ngl I was so excited when they announced that
Which is why I have such hope for fallout 3/nv remastered next
Just found the Nate the Rake lore
yo wanna ask in black friday r we gettin another sale
and also when is the new season coming out planning too get amazon prime or whatever the streaming service name
Why the bottle of milk is a gun for raiders?
First ep. drops dec. 17th
Hey does anyone know if the Two Shot legendary can spawn on Gatling lasers in FO4?
It's possible, but it's not very useful because the base damage is pretty low. For a weapon with low base damage and high fire rate like the Gatling laser you want something like Wounding.
Then it has to be bugged not only have I not gotten a two shot variant but I also haven’t seen one with the Deadeye,Hitman’s,irradiated or Rapid and I’ve been save scumming for two days now
finally finished all the NV dlcs, i was surprised how good they all were, if i was to rank them i would say TLR>DM>HH>OWB but owb was still very very good
S: Honest Hearts, Lonesome Road
A: OWB
B: DM
i can see why you'd put dm last but i really liked it on a lowish difficulty, allowed me to focus on the story properly
i also didnt expect to like dm as much as i did, read a lot of reviews before just deciding to try it
I'm gna play fallout new Vegas
Haven't played it since I was a teenager. Gna be peak nostalgia.
How do I fix the head scar from point lookout not showing up in Mojave wasteland?
Bad does not describe how terrible the game was on launch. The only AAA game worse than FO76 (IMHO) would be Cyberpunk 2077. For the older folks (Pentium 4 or older) the winner for absolutely worst game from a AAA studio is Rouge Warrior from Bethesda (no surprise there) that was so bad I actually recommend game reviewers finding a copy just so you can baseline reviews of other terrible games. Now FO76 is leaps ahead of RW, and has improved over the years substantially, it is still terrible.
The corporate (read T.H. idea) concept of an MMOP as a revenue center doomed the game from the start. Terrible management of production, rejection of design team ideas, and other development and production issues essentially doomed the game. Unfortunately the history of prior modern era FO games persisted in leading players and fans into believing Bethesda had things under control and were not aware of many of the ongoing problems.
Once the BETA was released to the very oversized 'BETA testing audience' it quickly became clear that Bethesda had no feedback system structured to accept the responses from the 'BETA Test group'. I was a BETA tester on FO76 and for the first several days I could not even login to the BETA Test portal. I did eventually manage to access to portal but was met with continued difficulties in trying to enter problem information, loading a debug log was impossible, and even the occasional developer questionnaire was impossible to complete due to issues on the Bethesda servers.
While I performed due diligence, getting the information to Bethesda was nearly impossible. I eventually emailed a member of the project several times with my logs and testing commentary. I did receive responses, but got the feeling that even he was just going through the motions for the BETA test and had become disillusioned with the project. This was hardly my first BETA test, having performed several prior BETA and more than a dozen ALPHA tests on other projects in both the gaming world and production system software.
For those I spoke with during the BETA, most with prior testing experience agreed that it was more of an ALPHA release and calling it a BETA was being very generous. As we all know, the production release was little better than the BETA, with many of the issues still not resolved. I do think they were able to clean up the mesh quite well, for the most part, and very few of the 'world fall' holes and landscape mesh traps were not repaired. There were still a few places that a player could fall though the mesh the last time I played, and a couple mesh traps that players can get caught in. Although I have not played in several months, those who I talk to and are active say it's better, but still very much a B-grade FPS with a few other live players around to interact with as you grind through repetitive search/fetch tasks.
This might be a really stupid question, but after the backlash of the Fallout Day Fail will Fallout 4 die? Will it never be the same? Im really worried that my favorite game is bouta go in the stinkaroony dumpster cause of Bethesda's greed?
The game will only receive an optional upgrade, like Skyrim's AE.
All backlash dies down within a week or two and everyone buys the AE anyway. Everything will be fine.
Heck even now it has almost entirely died down. No one's talking about it anymore
As a new player to the original Fallout games I'm quite confused of the Fallout 1in2 mod. So it basically requires both games, then it takes the Fallout 2 files and adapts them to the Fallout 1 game?
It's essentially Tale of Two Wastelands but for FO1 and 2 instead
It puts FO1 in FO2's version of the engine. Adding all the improvements FO2 added to 1
can someone get in my camp on fallout 76 and get a candy please? (PC)
#fallout-76-chat you’re more likely to get answers in here
thanks, I'll take a look
FO4 actually can't 'die', since it doesn't need a player base to sustain it. Your favorite will be the same old great game it's always been.
For the anniversary edition, can we please get an option to disable mouse acceleration and mouse smoothing and possibly improved mouse or sensitivity options. The mouse feels horrendous during gameplay
Well I hope it's alright for a first play through. I just finished setting it all up!
Thanks!
Anyways can a cat be used to be a silencer ?
Did you learn this from Postal?
Does anybody know if fallout 76 will ever have an offline mode? I like the game, I just want the option to be able to play offline
No because like cats have gas and silencers too so humans too?
I think it depends
What an odd thing to say.
Bout to start like my 6th run of NV to prepare for the show. All easter eggs will be spotted.
Nice
I wisg you luck in that endeavor. I'm about to do Dead Money in Survival
Nah its like the same thing as using a steak as a silencer
Bullet wouldnt be efective and good chance gun broke since the preasure and gas doesnt have amywhere to go
Manual bomb!
I would say that bomb will hurt you more than it will hurt you're target
Wire gun = C4
Yeah but the explosive capabilty wouldnt be as fraction as good as an actualy c4
At least, we have cat meat for, profit.
Yeah but cat meat is like liltle you know since its a cat
You barely get any meat or customer
Get a fat one, remove the fat, fry, oil
sum people like frying food
Yeah but at the same time chicke would be better
Less expensive more meat more protein
Cat meat doesnt have nutritional value as good as chicken
Thanks
For anyone wanting to know how did i know this its from tiktok
Idk why
How do i make baby oil tho
Ok you get oils from like almond or sum shi
And combine it with another oil like lavender then use more oil and shi
Basicly you just mixed alot of oil together
Wait there isnt babys in the wasteland so what do i do with it
Gosh uh idk sell it
Or do whatever the carthage did
Mixed with honey and put on a bear
They should have added mod support to the New Vegas re-release. That alone would have made me at least consider buying it.
Keep it civil please towards other games and companies
When is Fallout Shelter update releasing?
Has anyone heard any details on whether there will be a price difference if someone already has all the dlcs? It didn't seem to make a difference when they did it with Skyrim SE, it was still $20 to upgrade to AE.
Is this a good place to post fallout 5 or 6 ideas?
Yes! Go ahead!. 🙂
The ideas are few but they have some depth and definitely some reading to be had but decent ideas though, I hope.
I also have to post out of order. Though it won't be overly crazy. You'll see.
I have ideas for the next fallout game. Some of these ideas are already starting to sprout but I'll throw it out there anyways. 1. Players can become super mutants or ghouls. If a player invests or comes into contact with FEV for super mutant transformation or if they have the misfortune of acquiring too much radiation there is a 1 in 3 chance to become a ghoul, otherwise player instantly dies as would be normal but if they transform into a ghoul it changes the game quite a bit same for super mutants. For both it will turn many factions away from them but may also open some unique factions up too. Also, there is a chance to reverse being a super mutant but that way will not be quick easy or convenient, if you want that you'll have to earn it. If you're a super mutant you can ally yourself with a large settlement of other super mutants and maybe you could somehow gain alliance with them, and it may persist even if you find a way to become human again. You'll need to prove yourself beyond all doubt for this to work. Not just at that time but later on as well. As for the ghoul path, it is irreversible but you may discover a secret cluster of powerful ghouls with unique insights, information, and learn able and unique moves and attacks and can become instantly liked by the child of atoms and open up a completely different main story line unique to this transformation. You'll see this no other way and this particular option may open some particularly disturbing revelations you will know no other way. There is also a chance that with both forms your intelligence and other stats may degrade with time. The time in which this happens is random and happens in slow increments. Most of the time it won't be quick but it shouldn't be ruled out that it could be. After a certain point these losses become permanent. You can do things to stave off these effects though for a while and significantly slow the process. Even completely halt things at times.
I would've call you a nerd if i didnt also think abt making next fot game in my head
I wish I had a nerd talk to me about fallout 1-2
- More factions to be a part of, simply be able to be apart of more factions both large and small. Being able to potentially partner with a whole bunch of factions as long as they can also align with the main faction or factions you choose to align yourself with. Yes you can have a dark alliance too, enclave, institute, and raider super alliance would be cool to see and at some point this is tried or attempted. Maybe once a deal can be brokered with enclave and institute both can come together with a plan to make the raiders serve them.....
- Revisit creating your own faction like in fallout New Vegas. This needs minimal explanation this right here. Now I'm well aware this won't be possible in every game nor should it be but you got to do this again at some point, it's too good not to. My personal opinion. Maybe you do this from the ground up slowly next time the idea is implemented. Once you form enough friendships with potential members you can create a settlement and your group becomes a growing player in the world of the major factions. As you reach milestones of influence, and size other factions will notice, probe and mettle with yours, in both positive and negative ways depending on how they view your actions and how they are impacted by them. It's not just about you, it's also about your group now too. You directly influence if they survive or not.
What Fallout 5 really needs is the option to start off with any of the factions: you could of course play as a Vault Dweller if you want, but you also have the option to start out as a member of the Brotherhood of Steel, or a Raider, or any other faction that might exist in the game. And of course you could also choose to play as a Ghoul. Wherever you choose to start will greatly affect the story as well as how other groups and settlements treat you. It also gives the player a huge reason to replay the game.
