#fallout-4-chat
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In my opinion i think its ridiculous. Just played mass fusion mission and it crashed probably 7 times throughout the mission. Thats a main story mission and honestly i think that’s unacceptable.
My thing only crashed 1 time from that quest, that was when I leave the room after defeating the security robots and see the synths and bos fighting and I instantly leave and i think all the fighting caused the fame to crashed when I used the exit door
Probably also loading downtown outside of the building. All the downtown area i avoid like the plague because it just constantly crashes
What do you play on?
XD bethesdas system is so jank
i uploaded my load order to beth net
then i deleted the load order by the xbox manage menu
rebooted the game and asked beth net to bring my load order back
it downloaded half of the stuff
i then re delete everything and manually download each mod in my load order and it fits
humans 1 bethesdas janky systems 0
How do I scrap items, I know how to scrap large things like cars
i typically use scrap everything ultimate edition
Why did I just find Reba II in the dirt between some corn in Bunker Hill?
Why do some mods say im missing some addons etc when i have all DLCs owned and installed and they used to work before?
How do I level up science, I can't find it in the perk tree
It's under Intelligence, row 6, Vault Boy holding a laser pistol. - https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Fallout_4_Perks
Which mods?
Thnx
It's been quite a long time, I've rallied the Brotherhood, the RailRoad, reached level 35, liberated the Minutemen fort, killed thousand of wasteland creature... I'm now ready to save Preston in Concord !
I've built a cozy sanctuary mini settlement, made it welcoming, they will surely appreciate the thought
BoS overhaul
I got it at the top
It wouldnt even let me change the load order or whatever since it kept saying i was missing something, I checked a subreddit and it said that it was due to Bethesda updating something regarding mods.
Drop them on the ground in a settlement and scrap them in Build mode.
Some items can also be scrapped at workbenches.
Xbox
Go to Settings in the main menu, then Audio to change the voice language, if supported.
Alternatively, check the console system settings for language options if not available in-game.
Basically you change the console language, rather the specific game’s language
Any updates will be announced on #fallout-announcements
Nothing
Sorry I don’t know about why u can’t move it , but I think it supposed to be at the bottom in u load order
I'm sorry, I'm checking all my settings, both in the Xbox app and on my PC, and I have everything set to display in Spanish. The launcher does show Spanish text, but once I'm in the game, everything appears in English. The launcher doesn’t let me change anything except the graphics, and inside the game, the only option I see is subtitles, but everything is in English.
Apparently I'll have to buy the Steam version to play more comfortably
I think that's controlled with a ini setting, on PC
🙁 Wow, this is the first time I've struggled to change a simple language.
I think he is on Xbox
nono Xbox game pass on PC
I swear playing Bethesda games especially fallout 4 feels like slamming my head into a brick wall but I can't stop for some reason, it's just crash after crash after crash
tho potentially the ini's im helping him look at might work on console too lol(depends on which language packs are there i guess)
Ah, thanks for the explanation
frigging japanese preston garvey lol
Crash after crash after crash... so its Palworld?
It costs money, but even a low-end gaming laptop would play FO4 (3, NV, London) and you could connect it to your TV with an HDMI cable. The GOG.com versions of 3, NV, 4 play fine without constant crashing. I only mention this since it would solve the problem, and as a bonus let you play Fallout London and free mods from NexusMods.

Any news on a fix for the Creation Club bunker home on fallout 4?
It’s not major if it hasnt I’ll still play it’s just it’s kinda goofy it says no storage space available when I have 300gb on PC lol
Hey guys, would you recommend going vanilla+dlc or also activating the creations bundle for my first playthrough?
Vanilla
Does it break vanilla's game balance?
Hi
Hello
Bye bye
I would choose creations piecemeal based on what looks nice to you but not the whole thing
also tbh a few things do break balance but like 3/4 is just cosmetics
NGL the AI power armor just makes too much sense not to have it in the base game xP, would you roughly know which ones break balance?
well sentinel for one is just one I wouldn't use
Lmao is it busted? XD
it just feels like a massive crutch, also large followers (i.e. people in PA and sentrybots, not sure if Strong has those issues thoughs) are really annoying in interiors
How so? Is it a bullet sponge compared to other followers in power armor?
ok so i load a save and it says i need virtual workshop installed but i go check whats installed and it says that virtual workshop is installed
ok this discord is a key cuz soon as i typed that it fixed itself
Big daddy Bethesda watches over you
i should prob put a shirt on then XD
the thing is you can have him and a regular follower but also yes it's a huge bullet sponge, hell its companion slot still lets you use man's best friend to move dogmeat to the originally intended slot
Haven't heard anything myself.
is this about the bug where the interior becomes impossible to leave after cell reset?
No, you just can't update or install it at the moment due to what I think is an issue with the modding platform in the game.
oh, weird
oh huh, I was about to say something dumb cause I thought I'd actually installed it yesterday but no, same problem
I somehow updated it lmao. I just can’t install it.
tbh better than noir penthouse letting you download an empty file
Everything except the cosmetic items make the game easier. So to appreciate that I would play through without the Creations bundle at least once.
That penthouse is sick
The creations bundle gave me sick minutemen PA paint so imma glaze it till the ends my days. Why such paint didnt exist for any suit other than T45 in vanilla is beyond me.
biggest issue if you mod a lot is the full CC pack is like 100 mods
Brother they like a few mb each
OMG Tomorrow gonna be februaryyy
if i i ever delayed a work this late i would get fired asap lmao
How do I tell him it’s already Feb 1st for me
Beth's on est though
That doesnt…… change the fact it’s February 1st for me. Bethesda dont dictate time zones. Last time I checked God Todd is a low tier deity
Fallout London would be cool but I do got a 360 that I play all the other ones on
Didnt the queen die after fallout London came out or before
A ghoul queen and ghoul prince charles were going to be in FOLON but the real one died before that happened, so I'd guess she died before the 1.00 release.
Damn, and somehow fallout London looks better than IRL London.
What tab is the recruitment beacon under?
Uhh I think power stuff
Thnx
I'm chomping at the bit to hear a release date for the Nintendo Switch 2 version.
Also anxious to see if it will have mods available.
Since it's supposed to contain all the Anniversary content I'm guessing, yes.
They said it was planned for this year during the anniversary stream. They had a trailer and everything.
Switch 2 version of Fallout 4 isn't out yet. It doesn't even have a firm release date yet other than 2026.
Ok
Is there a way to contact a Mod creator ? ( PlayStation)
By any chance do u know the mod Jenni's Cheat cellar ?
No
Crazy how 100GBs storage was promised in December and it’s February now
wdym
does the slog always recruit ghoul settlers? i know starlight can also get them, anything else?
trying to set up some ghoul settlements
I had a quesiton concerning the tesla cannon in FO4 with the next gen update version of the game. Does the standard barrel attachment for the weapon benefit from running demoltionist or not? i couldnt find conclusively where it was confirmed if it did and didnt
Especially with us needed double the mod space now to download stuff
Just a Simple Question: Where’s the 100GB Update? Like, is it gone in the Aether? Or is it still being worked on?
Give an Update, or, anything 
It’s never coming
Its not coming
It's still being worked on. any news will be posted in #fallout-announcements
Hey does anyone else delete saves when they are done or is it just me? I have 300 hours and I don’t keep saves lmao. I need to start doing it.
Kinda, I usually keep the last few saves but delete the rest
Hell yeah finally some news!!!!
Nah fr love you hadeostry
Is anyone getting some kinda weird freezing over at the trailer park on the west side of the map? I keep trying to go to it because the haptic drive is there in need to collect for quartermastery but it just won't let me go there. At all. My game just keeps locking up as soon as I enter a cell even near there. Just. Locks. Freeze. Game audio works but the game completely freezes.
Hallo ich hatte fallout 4 ab und zu noch gespielt aber es kam probleme ich hatte früher schon die pakete alle gekauft wieso geht das jetzt nicht mehr habe ich die pakete um sonst gekauft
Update : Yeah so its definitely got to be something in one of the neighboring cells. I saved my game near by the area where I've been locking up by brute forcing and now I can't even load my save because it's just frozen. If anyone has any idea what the hell's up let me know....
I forgot to mention I'm on a mod pack of my own creation that has 101 mods on it rn so if y'all need a mod list let me know and I'll send it for troubleshooting but idk what the hell is up with my game.
Thank goodness I have a game auto save from before the lockup quick save but now I have to try and brute force it again just to get back there.
rookie number
how do i clear my libary i went to the bethesda website and got rid of what i could but it seams the mods are still there in the mod menu
Ok so I'm getting the freezing on other spots of the map. A ruined flooded bridge towards diamond city froze me. Remind me it's F4 Edit to check if I have conflicts right?
Stupid humans! 
Soon supermutant rule all
Fallout 4 is broken on Playstation 4. They are working on a fix, when it is ready it will appear in #fallout-announcements not here. They have not announced a date for when the fix will arrive.
Guys I noticed In the Intro Nate used a laser beam splitter on his weapon. Hes a shot gunner lol.
My game keeps crashing, it’s not the 160+ mods I have installed, I swear 😂
Laser Shotgun
can some1 ping me when they fix the ps4 addons issue?
Yes
Sure I’ll book you in for 890 days.
I will never talk in this channel EVER AGAIN, GOODBYE
huh this is cute, the official plasma defender's automatic mode turns it into a plasma miniminigun
picogun
lol
i think it will be out this update
"Hope is the first step on the path to disappointment"
lmao they better tho
There’s a max number of mods limit regardless of mod size
They could bundle all that stuff but the user might still not be able to mod the game themselves. Isn’t modding quite unusual on the Switch and on Nintendo in general?
That’s for verified creations/creators which is a very very small fraction of all mod creations/creators.
But worth a try I guess.
what's the state of Fallout 4 Next Gen version? i remember when i stopped my first survival run on there, it was not good and i've heard that people have been having issues with the DLCs not registering as being installed and other stuff as well.
Been trying to play fallout 4 but I won't let me go on to my save and creation
PS users are struggling. DLCs are not being recognized as owned despite being downloaded. They’re working on a fix.
Is the mod on Nexus? You could try looking there.
Good idea
The DLC issue is not related to Next Gen (April 2024). It’s related to Anniversary Edition (AE) 2025.
hasn't it been an issue for like 2 months now?
are we sure they even are working on it? people have literally lost their DLCs they paid for lol. i saw someone in another discord the other day talking about how their PS4 game wouldn't reconize the DLCs as being installed.
Missing DLC has been an issue on PS4 since AE release in Nov 2025
oof, even longer then
If you are on PS5 the DLC should work fine unless you are using a PS4 physical disk
Coming up on 3 months yes
Moderators and BGS have acknowledged that it’s being worked on. It sucks and I feel for them but the only thing we can do is wait.
i played the next gen version sometime last year, started a new game and on survival for the first time and it was pain but new. but due to the state the game was in with new issues and other things i decided to stop instead of put more time into it just to have things break later in the game as i was reading about.
Yes it took a couple of months for the issues with NextGen to shake out
AE actually fixes some of the issues with NextGen.
But introduces new issues .
Overall it’s not a great trade.
Worst part in my opinion is that idk why the hell they decided to launch the update on playstation after seeing how it broke the dlcs, they could ve delayed it for playstation instead of messing people playthroughts
Why can't I update one of my creation Club items on my computer when I know I have plenty of space?!?
common bug
i do kind of want to go back to it but i feel like i'll be rusty and be all confused about what build i wanted to go for lol but i remember being excited about the Hellfire Power Armor creation that came with the Next Gen version
Is there a way to fix it?
everyone's getting the bunker home issue I think and no
So yeah it's just with that particular creation Club apparently because that's the same one that's not working for me to update
it's up to Beth patching that creation
Hopefully they'll fix it soon cuz I do want to play the game sometime today
If they don't fix bunker home pack, I'm going to flip my sh---
Hopefully they will after all apparently they were able to notice the problem enough people are having to potentially update the creation Club in the first place they just broke the update but that's not unbefitting for a Bethesda fortunately they tend to catch up quickly if the fans don't do it first?
They didn’t know about the impact on DLCs for PS4 until after they released it. Not all PS4 users are affected. There was a similar DLC issue on Xbox at launch of AE, but they managed to fix that quite quickly.
Sometimes there’s bugs that only present themselves when pushed to a live environment.
I mean im pretty sure that with a lil bit of testing in playstation they could have know that, wich that only could say that there is a chance they are not even testing the updates
Hmmm
I assume devs don't work in sundays so another pointless day
If it would show up with that kind of testing then yes they would have spotted it before release. But in a lot of cases it works fine on PS4. It looks like it’s certain combinations of different distributions that don’t work.
For example there are around 10+ versions of the base game out there on PS4. Plus a similar number of ways of bundling the DLC. So you are already looking at around 100 combinations they would need to regression test. And the regression tests would need to test for every possible failure, not just this failure that we now know about in hindsight.
Or the GoG version
To change the language in the PC version of Fallout 4, adjust settings through the gaming platform (Steam or GOG) rather than in-game. On Steam, right-click "Fallout 4" in the Library, select Properties > Language, and choose your language. For GOG, use Manage installation > Configure > Language.
Well thanks for educating me in the subject, since you clearly know more than me in there i will take your word on it
I’m mostly guessing but I do work in software development and testing so I know a lot of this stuff is harder than it looks
Then apologize me for my ignorance, just my frustration speaking
If you are on PS5 and have digital versions of Fallout 4 and its DLC, like the GOTY edition, you should be fine.
For myself on an impacted PS4 version, I’ve found that playing without the DLC is just kind of frustrating, even if I start a new game.
I even tried playing the original release version 1.00. That was kind of fun actually.
No worries friend. We are all quite frustrated about this.
i did the thing where i could download the next gen version by having a PS4 disc in the PS5. i don't remember my DLCs not showing up but it's annoying to think people are having the issue and has been for months when it's literally something they paid for at one point and now can't access, you know?
Ah if you have a PS4 physical disc on a PS5 system then you might also run into this DLC issue
To add to that, I have no idea why the update was even implemented on PlayStation at all. Like, 80% of these paid mods aren't compliant with Sony's ToS and to force an update to curate the delivery of these mods is nonsensical. Even if they fix all the issues with the DLC, the consolation and payoff for the people affected get what? An opportunity to spend even more money on a few minuscule and restrictive mods? They don't get the free Tale of the Beast Hunter, T60 Pistol, Varmint Rifle, or Revenge of the Van Graffs as their apology like everyone else, they get nothing. Having the game broken for such a diminishing return, especially for the people who don't even play with mods, is the most frustrating part.
If you have not updated to Anniversary Edition yet then you might want to hold off.
(Although NOT upgrading on a PS is a constant effort of cancelling updates).
i'd have to check but i don't remember them saying they weren't installed so i might've been good but it's been like a year or somethiing since so i'd have to check i guess.
Generally agree.
Looking at it from Bethesda’s (and Sony) viewpoints, console players are a big chunk of the base so they want to monetise that base with the new (paid) Verified Creations and Creations Bundle.
By the way it does not violate Sony ToS if Bethesda releases something to PS that uses external assets. It’s only for free community authored mods. Creation Club was always available on PS with external assets. The Verified Creations initiative is a way to try to persuade Sony to accept external assets in a wider variety of mods (Creations) for Fallout 4, as I believe Sony have already done in other Bethesda games that have Verified Creator programmes.
The place to check is under Add Ons from the first menu screen (the menu where you can do New game). If you check under Installed while you are in-game that information is wrong (on all platforms currently). It will tell you that you have every Creation and every DLC owned and installed, whether you do or don’t.
Like skyrim? (Sorry if i said nonsense)
Hi guys i was wondering i wanna buy the aneversery edition on ps5 only the creations fo i get ghe lucky 38 mod and bounty hunter stuff
If you buy just the Anniversary Edition AFAIK you don't get any new mods/ creations as such. If you buy the Anniversary Creations Bundle then yes you get a bunch of mods (Creations) included.
I wnat jsut the creations do i get the ranger queat andbounty hunter quets i dont want the game and the dlcs i alr have em
On PS, the bounty hunter stuff isn't currently available but it should be getting added with the 100gb update once that's ready
Do you know when but if i buy it like today when it gets realesed do i get it but what about the other lost ranger quest
We don't know when it'll be ready, but if you're planning on it, I'd wait until the update to make sure everything you'll want is 100% there. Things can always change between now and the update. Better playing it safe than jumping in and something goes wrong 
Ok thanks i will wait but will it be soon??
We don't know
Ok
Unlikely based on past update timelines
Why tf did they even put an animation for using a stimpak? Like the amount of times ive died because of that animation and they dont even do it for other meds
My guess is just because it's a common immersive feature. Bit like Dark Souls 2, how the drink animation could get you killed but other items don't have that issue at all
My devils x-02 power armor has a jetpack on it and sometimes the jetpack loads super glitchy. Like right now its floating like 5 feet away from my power armor and sideways aswell 😂😂
thats just a normal power armour bug relogging should fix it
Yikes thats a regular bug? Thought it was because of the x-02… they truly gave up on fixing fo4 😂😂😭😭
Running Diamond City radio station 🫡🫡🫡
Omg these bugs are ridiculous just got another one. Anyone know how to fix not being able to use pip boy at all?
Like i literally just got back into game after experiencing bugs and the game crashing and not even a minute back in i cant ise my pip boy wtf
i’ve never experienced any bugs with Fallout 4…
You are lucky
Quick question for any of the people who know already could I still play the game even without updating the bunker creation Club item because I do have that installed but do I have to update it in order to keep using that creation Club item or should I wait until they fix the update bug for it before I play the game again?
Luck stat is maxed out with the Lucky bobble head
Bobblehead? Nah, I just put all my points into luck.
i was saying u have 10 Luck +1 from the bobble head so 11
I have ZERO charisma, ZERO strength, ZERO endurance, ZERO agility, ZERO perception
all i have other than luck is intellect
You know what, I'm curious.
Thx you anwy
What do we think Nate and Nora's lore starting stats are?
Considering Nate is a US Army Vet and Nora is a lawyer.
I feel your pain. But never use stimpaks in the middle of a fight. Use any other form of Aid but not that. Especially in Survival mode.
If you don't use mods then a game ending bug is very rare.
Nate I feel would be:
S: 4
P: 4
E: 4
C: 4
I: 4
A: 5
L: 7
It's never mandatory to update a Creation just because an update is shown as Available.
are you kidding? i flood my stuff with Creation Club mods
Lets hope this week we get a goated creation 🙂
i agree with most of it except the luck
Nate's a soldier, he's gonna rely on pure skill, not luck.
The Creation Club mods have quite a few bugs, but the only game-ending bugs (in CC) were fixed in NG and AE updates.
Nora
S: 2
P: 3
E: 4
C: 5
I: 7
A: 5
L: 4
i'd put 1 or 2 of those luck points into Strength to really push that soldier/dad strength, I'd then put 1 or 2 into Endurance, 1 into perception, then 1 or 2 into Intelligence (just for gun nut and military tactics.)
He was in a war. A war the US pretty much lost. And he lived and has full use of all his limbs. He has LCK 11.
Went with luck because he survived a war. Feel like that goes
fair
now do the War Criminal build for Nate 🤑
So I can still play it even if the creation needs to be updated but I can't update it because the update is bugged out at the moment?
When you say it needs to be updated, is it refusing to load your game unless you update? If not you should be good 
Granted I have to fight with the game every time I boot it up because for some reason ever since the anniversary edition my game constantly deactivates my mods or at least some of my mods and I have to reactivate them try to boot up the game have it say you want to use the current loadout or the saved one tell it to use the same one only for it to deactivate some mods again then when it doesn't load go back reactivate all my mods again and then log into the game proper this time once it gets done updating... So I don't know if the game will break without the updated creation?
Also any one know why my vault tec rep won’t work / is not able to move settlements?. Or be commanded?.
Is there a patch on console for fallen skybridge location ?? Cause I can't go anywhere Near the location and I got a quest there
That is pretty much a vanilla issue. I think the only thing you can do with him is assign him to a store. He is a tier 4 trader iirc
I know I can’t assign him . I click him then the trading emporium then it picks up the table he won’t work but keeps reapeatimg certain lines.
Yes he only repeats those lines
no he’s supposed to work on a trading table .
Is it a tier 3 emporium? Is anyone else assigned to it?
Yes and . Nobody is assigned to it
I feel like he’s glitched cause I can’t even move him to a new settlement
I think he’s not registered as a settler for some reason even though I moved him from sanctuary when I first saw him there after good neighbor sent him to long fellow cabin cause that’s where all my cap making empire is.
Whats good everyone
Any good free mods?
How do i solve the add on issue on ps 4?
As far as I know, that's just how he is; he can only go to Sanctuary Hills and doesn't really "count" as a settler in terms of giving him a job, or expecting him to lay down his life when you're attacked
Just installed the mr krabs walk for mirelurks 😂
afaik he does have the ability to buff a general store and technically you can send him somewhere else after the initial recruitment if you don't want to deal with his dialogue (I don't think I've ever bothered recruiting him though)
trying to figure out sensible provisioner paths in the souths is such a pain also, I hate that both Murkwater and Warwick basically don't have a path that avoids Quincy
at least the bypass for Saugeen doesn't take a detour across half the map
what DLC is the tesla cannon part of? I only recently started a new game after getting all the DLCs.
also why is no one talking about the tesla cannon being OP
The Tesla cannon is creation club content
- Pretty sure Tesla Cannon was integrated into the base game with the NextGen update in April 2024. Along with X-02 and Hellfire power armour, makeshift weapons, Halloween pack and Enclave Remnants.
- Many Creations and even DLC items are OP and unbalancing. I guess a lot of people like to play on Easy Mode? 😆
So: not DLC, former creation club item, now part of the base game since NextGen.
You don’t. Wait for Bethesda and Sony to fix it
Settler and settlement management is different in Far Harbor (for example you can’t create doctors). So if you sent the Rep to Longfellow’s cabin first that may be why you can’t move him and can’t assign him to a trading store.
I found a misspelling in game, they accidentally called it Swan's pond
Never mind, not a misspelling, don't go in the pond
Why is there not a warning sign or something?????!!!!!
There is a warning sign and multiple people say dont to there
Then im blind and stupid
I was just going in a straight line to my objective and found this little pond and thought to myself "I can cross that"
Dont go to Boston comms
I was on my way to Dimond city iirc
first play through?
Yup
Uh oh, having frank horrigan ask this is like the packgod call meme. Your done for.
Fallout is full of surprises 😁
Yes
Frank horrigan, you’ll meet me on the oil rig very soon, come with loads, because I’m defeating you.
Are you on survival mode?
Im on whatever the standard difficulty is
Ok so you’ll be fine
Use a Fatman on Kellogg
I don't have one
Theres one close by sanctuary, if you head north over the lake theres one
Ok thnx
It’s in a tip, it has a sentry bot thats turned off
It’s a Sony issue btw
Im in the building that dogmeat leads you to, ive killed all the synths, I can't figure out how to get the god damn chained door open
Ohhh your supposed to find an elevator
🤦♂️
It’s down the hallway I think, you gotta go thru a hole in the building
I was looking for a different set of stairs that would lead back down on the other side of the door
Most chained doors you need to find your way to the other side of the door and open it from there
Careful cuz there’s more synths, a lot more.
Thanks for the heads up
Also Kellogg can turn invisible and heals really quickly so it’s best to kill him quickly
nuh uh
I think the elevator is on the same level. If you find a cage near a terminal the elevator is near there.
He darts off sometimes and you can’t find him. It gets disorientating the first time cuz u cant find him, and your just bombareded with synths.
You died 3 Fallouts ago, Frank 😁
Also, anyone else hear Kellogg's name and immediately think of Tony the Tiger?
Bruh
not cool bruh that hurt
I though corn flakes
He’s the Cereal Killer
Those are just unfrosted frosted flakes
How did you die to a dumb tribal?
Sorry buddy. We love you really Frank
didn't know that
it was hardly the tribals fault
Oh really???
gonna be my toy until I find the explosive combat shotgun or minigun
Remind me how did you die again??? lol. Tell me are they bringing you back for the show???
uhh
close quarter combat against a gunner with a fat man (disclaimer, no one won)
because of stomachaches
I gotta watch the show
Should’ve had breakfast then frank
Get yourself some Kellogg frosted flakes
you know what your right
the reason my stomach exploded was because i had no breakfast
Yeah lol
Also, why are the dark night joker's scars a character creator option?
Fly high heath ledger
My character is named the jonkler
We lost an Australian national treasure
I had to
I love you
In my defense, my watch schedule has been busy between stranger things 5 and the expanse
Okay yeah I didn't need to update in order to continue using the creation I just hope they fix it soon.
By the way quick question does anyone know why I'm not getting the right arm of the special armor pieces from the tribal helmet creation club and on top of that not ever really finding those helmets in the merchants trade?
Cuz right arm for it aint exist
Really?!? Why won't it it would be kind of annoying to use only one half of the armor as bear armor... More importantly why doesn't it have the tribal helmets hat in the merchants inventory too often?!? In fact I think I've only found it in a merchant inventory twice?!?
Are the minutemen gonna go to war with the brotherhood of steal?
Ok cool
Not unless you piss off the BOS which main story doesnt happen.
I was worried I would have to pick between them
The reason is it’s a reference to some armour I think from NV and that only has a left arm piece
That's really going to annoy my OCD...
You can build up minutemen but Preston doesnt see them as a threat. And BOS dont either.
It’s only if you kill say Arthur that Preston’s like oh let’s fight the BOS because then your hostile
Technically there is a way to have the Brotherhood and Minuteman go to war but I believe that only happens if you're already at war with the Brotherhood of Steel so your crew follows behind you and decides to go against them?
I wipe out the railroad fast as possible
But main story they don’t fight, and honestly dude first playthru do BOS
And im assuming that gaining good standing with the BOS gets me mods and stuff for my power armor
They have sick items and heartbreaking moments in the story. They are also ethnic discrimitors.
My first playthrough I somehow managed to do a Minutemen ending where the Railroad, Brotherhood of Steel, and the Minutemen all survived and I've always liked that particular ending so much I kind of do it every time I play the game
Yes you get powerful enough to fight Institute, BY THE WAY dont get fooled and stick entirely BOS first playthru
Im gonna do BOS and minutemen if possible
The institute does the Starwars equivalent of the anakin tactic and tries to draw you in.
Go BOS ending it’s fire
I have a question, where do I get more ammo for the minigun?
Buying it is best bet also with dlc you can make it
Which dlc, I have the G.O.T.Y edition so I don't know if it is included
Yes it will be
Ok cool, how do I craft it?
If you’ve got GOTY. You’ll need to make an ammo machine
Ahh ok thnx
It pumps out ammo, you can put it in any settlement with a conveyer belt
Is anyone able to download Bunker Home Pack? It wont let me on steam
same for me
Most of the time random super mutant encounters have then face down on the ground, in quests they are fine but when traveling they usually are on the ground.
Original Fallout 4, Xbox one.
The update for it is saying not enough room, they made another bug as my computer has plenty of space 🤪
Do you have mods/creations installed? One of them is probably the cause.
fun thing: it actually sets aside the space every time you try
I had my free drive space drop by like 1 gb the time I realized it, it only clears that space if you restart the game (but yeah there's a problem with the download, not really a first with creation club stuff sadly)
also what does that creation even do, is it a home or a workshop pack
also kinda sad that literally no official creation adds proper settlements; Backwater is a nice town (not sure if you can unlock it as a proper settlement without being evil tho) and the ruined town on Little Nahant would have been amazing for a new one
Kinda both but it's mostly player homes. I really only use one, Copley Station.
also I hate that you have to remove creations manually
or at least my install might be bugged but I literally can't remove the official stuff I don't want without having to go into files and figuring out the actual plugin names
I’m thinking once the final episode drops the game update will too for the mod storage. I wouldn’t put it past, it might be a paid subscription thing for the 100mb but I honestly don’t care, personally.
ohhhh nahhh, i started the bos path in far harbor and it says eliminate all synth in acadia. It for some reason marked the objective in the commonwelth as well...
i thought they wanted me tolike... talk to maxson or something...but the mark is on the girl i resued 💀 💀
No mods, all I have are the dlcs downloaded.
bruh why far harbor ending is so anti climatic
Bunker Home Pack still broken?
I was told that ammo boxes were the best way to get fusion cores, ive had no luck so far "and my luck is maxed)
Invest in the scrounger perk in the luck category of the perk tree
I thought they didn't actually drop from ammo boxes
that said the Atom Cats mechanic always has one when her inventory resets
Yup...
hey guys. just playing fallout 4 on pc for the first time in forever. having a really bizarre issue where the sensitivity in menus/selecting things on controller is insanely high. makes it almost impossible to operate
¿Fallout 4 is broken in Playstation?,I'm don't pliying My dlcs,i hace the GOTY edition,this problema of ps4,o same to ps5?
I still have the same problems on my ps4. Installed everything again and refreshed eveything and still no succes 😒
whats broken with it besides not wanting to update?
its like that since november and the anniversary update for ps4 players, even after 3 hotfixes they cant get it fixed and the update in the "new year" still didnt happen
I have no idea how to fix the gap in my vaults roof
This is getting ridiculous, it can’t be that hard to undo whatever they did to mess up the bunker home pack not downloading it’s also been about a week and there has been no acknowledgment about it from Bethesda seems like they just don’t care but will happily take your money anyways.
in the moment bethesda is taking major Ls gamewise but man they got publicity through fallout 76 and the show, in germany we have pringels with a secret taste with a collab from fallout 76...there is the money spend. i have the feeling this company got good money from that and dont really care about the problems. i know some underpaid people with good heart are trying to fix this mess...these people arent at fault its the higher ups that push for anniversary updates that no one asked for
i hope really they will learn from it and dont die off because they got big monopol on rpg single player games, if they give that up it will be a shame
but its competiton out there if there is a indie studio that will do it better because bethesda got lazy they eventually have to compete again its like twitch and kick
but then again they farm money from fallout 76 and the shows thats important to them right now
Kasumi?
There's many competitors that Bethesda could fight against even in current times (CDPR, Potentially Playground Games with Fable, etc.) but they aren't going anywhere because the IPs are that powerful. While I do somewhat understand the Twitch vs Kick analogy, it's a bit unfitting because of the vast problems between the two. Bethesda vs any other RPG dev would just be what IPs they bring to the table, but they can both thrive in the same ecosystem without much competition too. In my view, Bethesda have their own style compared to anyone else and it's hard to really hit the same marks. People can do better, but I think Bethesda games are special in their own way and that's the charm.
One day, one day the update will be out
One day and then i dont have to keep checking this server,
Please GodHoward BLESSS USSSSSSS
Yes they do. Sometimes 4 at once
Honestly i think they want people to forget about the update a promise they cannot commit do the signed contracts zenimax made with Microsoft when they first set up mods, but i think thats baloney.
Ammo boxes are not a bad place to look. Your LCK stat has no effect on what you find. Or anything much at all. The Luck perk tree does contain Scrounger which will get you more ammo (but not necessarily better/rarer ammo).
The only thing LCK stat does in the game directly is increase the rate at which you regain Criticals.
Feburary second
Hey Spike, because I feel I can trust you, why do people keep bringing up Zenimax with the whole mod/update situation? I thought they only had ground on ESO, or have I missed something obvious? 
If you are in urgent need of fusion cores (and can’t afford to buy them from a trader) there are fixed locations with fusion cores that you could google or find in the wiki
🦟
Not sure either
I guess because Microsoft did not buy Bethesda directly but bought Zenimax which owns Bethesda
I always had confidence Zenimax had no stakes in anything other than ESO but this is the fourth time someone's brought them up so I'm starting to wonder if either I'm an idiot or if people just.. don't understand who runs what 
If that final episode drops and at no point do they update or fix ANYTHING I will burn my shrine to todd Howard on live
Todd will get the David bazucki treatment
What.. exactly is this implying?
look at the current david bazucki related tweets
Oh……
Given what I know about his platforms' situation, I would much rather not look at Twitter for that. Especially as someone with community note access. 
I have schizophrenic friends who would do that for me.
Yeah I think comparing him to Todd is a massive stretch in that aspect
Todd been evil though
The 3 mod authors who made it would have to push an update to Bethesda likely why they haven’t fixed it yet depending how slow the process is
I kid
Damn, you made me look it up 😁
Microsoft bought ZeniMax Media which include[d (in 2021)]
Bethesda Game Studios, id Software, ZeniMax Online Studios, Arkane, MachineGames, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios.
The same statement says future titles (eg Fallout 5) will be exclusive to PC and XBox.
Have to remember two of the sub studios are gone
Fixed thanks
Old article. Xbox isn't really doing major release as exclusives anymore because they pivoted away from a hardware centric model
Game pass is basically unsustainable already, if they voluntarily cut out revenue from Sony and Nintendo ports they basically sink any AAA release under water budget wise.
citation?
I feel like it's difficult to really say whether it's unsustainable because of the variety of people that exist. Some might pay for both the service and the game, others maybe one or the other, but it's definitely still valuable. Fable 2 lately's been a wild seller despite being on the service, but I do think though that in the long term, it's all around better to do multi-platform than just Xbox/PC.
It would certainly make sense, industry wise, for future games to be of minimum generation exclusivity, like how at one point support was dropped for the 360, but overall it's speculative.
Are death claws supposed to be attacking sanctuary
Just Wikipedia
Wikipedia cites sources. It's not a source itself.
True, it’s just a massive selection bias filter 😁
It's not even that, it's not a source. Like AI, it's only as reliable as its sources.
Actually no it wasn’t Wikipedia
I forgot the Google default summary is no longer Wikipedia
It was Google AI
I would say that Wikipedia is less reliable than its sources, because it obscures both its own selection bias and the bias of its sources.
This isn't the place for that debate... change of subject.
Hey I didn’t start the digression, you did
All I asked was a source.
All this talk of “sourcing” is an infinite regression fallacy anyway. Who will source the sources of the sources of the sources? 😁
https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/9/22319124/microsoft-bethesda-acquisition-complete-finalized
This is a source.
Are yall being nice in here?
Looks like we have to wait until end of feb now for a result on external mods on PS5 / PS4 😭😥 Had a feeling January was going to be a hard ask
This source says to return to Fallout 4 discussion please
And then challenge it
Throws BBQ sauce at @shell thistle and @peak wing
I have no idea what's going on.. all I asked was for a source about the future of console games.
I hope it is bright
Let's just get back to Fallout 4 as jdm asked please.
Ok I gladly will Looks like we have to wait until end of feb now for a result on external mods on PS5 / PS4 😭😥 Had a feeling January was going to be a hard ask
Please don't spam, but currently we do not have an update on that.
Wasnt spam it is a legit question
posts a pic of spam
I think when the same 3 questions get asked 40 times a day, that counts as spam
Is this better or u vegans and veggies nothing wrong with it
Fallout 4 Spam I may add
you ever rip ass so powerful yo think the arc jet engine just got fired up again
This morning lol
rip a fart so pungent even a bloatfly would turn away from it XD
i still find it hilarious that bethesdas load order thing dosent work XD like my load order takes up 70% of the storage space BUT bethesdas system breaks because of the double space bug
Yeah like three minutes ago
like yea lemme save my load order to to bethesdas server to save it from screwups from bethesda oh wait ...
@velvet delta as you may have seen my attempt to write a mod to fix the DLC problem on PS4 has failed. It was kind of instructive though as the mod works on PC but does not work on PS4. So I guess I am hitting the same root problem as your packaging team. Probably.
Lowkey wish there was a mod that synced with my music and spwned hostiles at the correct moment to create a feedback loop of dopamine on each gunshot
i still think my best moment in fallout4 has been getting in the power armour at concord and blasting the pacifc rim song jumpin off the roof at the right point then laydown a hail of bullets as the solo shreds through my skull
pure euphoria espescially with the prime plus hydralica mod
Morning mods 
My best was blasting the diamond city music while i use a fully automatic rocket launcher clearing out the glowing swa
Peak, thousands of dead radscorpians and deathclaws
Atleast someone is trying to fix it and admitting the truth many thanks for the attempt friend
Thank you. I’m trying my best
That’s more then what the devs are doing currently you should be hired
I still have a few angles to try so I’m not quitting yet
It’s all good man I appreciate you trying but you shouldn’t have to the devs need to pull their fingers out and sort it and be more open to us all.
I don't really think we should go around accusing the devs of not working, Space. 
Yeah it is a really tough problem to be honest and they did try many times to fix it
Not accusing just saying it how it is because how do we know any better with minimal lack luster responses but thanks for grassing me up and accusations
Fair enough but if they were more open we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place
Greed as normal takes prime sadly 😭😥
Why do u think I am playing old games now instead of the new ones because the quality was there
I am ranting I know but that’s how it is the more open we are all with it the better
I will say from everything I've seen from you Spike, it's almost refreshing in a way to see a bug that has the community just as confused on how to fix it. Rare to find a bug that has both sides of the coin struggling to find a quick fix, especially with you trying to relay your findings back to the devs 
We are all on the same team wanting to get it fixed. Thanks Ruby
Agreed and some more then others
LOL first the first time ever I’ve seen how many hours I have on Fallout 4: 5036 hours 😂🤣
Wish I had this lol
How do you people manage that, my most played game ain't even 500 hours 
I figured it was a couple of thousand but 5000 was a shock
I just love the game so much. It’s my go-to
Honestly fair. If my pc could handle all the big modpacks I'd want to play, I'd probably end up having way more hours than I do. Sadly my CPU isn't the best for modding
Ah that is a shame
Could be worse
My PC is a housebrick but I only use it to write mods. I play on a PS4 and that’s not too bad.
You could be trying to fix up the game's optimization system.
I have a building lacking character, advices welcomed #screenshots-and-video message
Yes kudos to you for your amazing work
I presume nothing has changed with the Bunker Homes problem, as a side note
Yall think yhe update coming out tommarow or we getting nothing besides some 76 gear?
Todd only giveth new F76 Subscription services
The howard subscription lets u go to only the luckt 38 and pick up some turbo and sunset sarsaparilla for ur camp
Howards been really selling new vegas wish he sold me mod size increase instead
All this time and money spent making fancy high production ads with paid partners...
You would think they would be able to fix the game they are advertising. Read the room guys.
Probably lack of communication between departments as a man who worked in trash work environments its not surprising to see it happening again
Back to update on Fallout 4, u think they have the mod size issue done or the playstation issue done or neither yet?
i think both are done just waiting on the right moment to release them maybe on fallout day in october or something
Yeah it's not likely that the people working on the game are in the same office as the people casting guys to wear a vault boy suit.
Also these commercials were probably shot months ago.
Given all the tension, I doubt they'd delay it if it was ready. My personal opinion is that the mod size update would be the easiest thing to do, but making sure the PS issue goes alongside is the priority along with maybe a couple other bug fixes so that this can be the magical final update and they can focus their attention on the next project. I'm not a game dev tho so what do I know 
Yeah they are juggling many plates at once
I'd be willing to bet that whoever is working on the update probably is going to never want to see F4 again after this is over 
Exactly i think like what others have said this is a issue not with Bethesda but with sony/microsoft i know for a fact sony hates game devs that are not owned by sony and especially hates game devs that release 3rd party content (ie mods) onto their "community". While microsoft is going thru some turmoil ie stock drop so that could cause some delayes with management but idk im just grasping at straws.
Back to fallout 4 i think we getting update this week or next fallout day in October
Nothing I reckon
Deadass its what i can think of is the only plausible answer or its going to worst, when im outta town and gets shadowdropped in april 🙁
God I hope we don’t have to wait that long painful enough as it is
I 100% think they may delay the update as they have before with promised then delayed content, so they can release it as a package with something bigger like fallout 76 expansion or fallout 3 remake
This is what I hope to be the case
So they can try to get more new people involved but i honestly think that hurts the fans moreee but idk IM just a desperate trogiphile waiting ona mod size increase
Since day 1 lol
Agreed and it sucks because Sony playerbase is suffering because of it
It’s already got to the point where I am pursuing other games to get my fill with devs and conglomerates that actually put quality in games and fixes the issues and say it how it is
I love fallout 4 but because of all this my love is faded in to doom and gloom
Exactly like i 100% the game last year before all the updates came out as i was rhinking the 2024 update was gonna be the last
Btw I believe the count down is the count down to the 100 Gb of mods we are supposed to get
100gb to me still seems to much
I know the retraints xbox has and 100gb = crashing and meltinf of my box
They will optimize it so that’s not an issue
But think of the high-res textures!
Bethesda and optimize is something i have never heard before
I like to think of bethesda clunk code something of a art form, not optimized but works and i thinks thats rhe most important
The 100gb (why isn't it 128gb or customizable) expansion doesn't bother me as much as the limitations of the engine.
Isn’t the engine part of the reason why BGS games are easily modded?
Yes the code is reused over and over again so their assets and other stuff doesnt often change makes it real easy to mess around but can cause alot of problems 76 at release is a prime example of bethesda clunk code i love it but its not for everyone
Let me put it this way, as of right now, console modding has additional hidden limitations, mostly to world space. Without a specific Creation Kit patch in place, the space requirement would skyrocket.
I still am excited for the update
oh my sweet summer child
Look bro I’m tired of not being able to install the mods I want
I have been modding fallout 4 for a long time to the point I’ve been able to optimize my load orders to be almost crashless
Mee too, but atm in going thru the 5 stages of death bc of this update
I still have the ghost space glitch so I can't even use all the space I'm supposed to have.
If on console you should be able to clear all mod space from the console settings.
U may have to do it on games and apps if ur on xbox have no idea on playstation
Tried multiple times it doesn't work.
What exactly is happening and what have you tried?
What console
Half my mod space was taken up before downloading a single mod and I've tried clearing the reserve space with power cycling and without multiple times, I've Uninstalled and reinstalled everything multillple times. On Xbox series S
Hmm. Does it show that you have 4gb of storage space?
Ahh perfect we twins in games and apps should be like 5 gbs on spaces gotta click the start key on fallout 4 and go to more options
Yeah total
OK I'm there
Funny thing to still see the "It's not Bethesda's fault, it's Sony" when even the last doom ports have mod support (published by Bethesda)
I’m not sure about Series S but on the X, I was able to get rid of this by clearing the reserve space (which you’ve said you’ve tried). To follow what Trog was saying, you should see an option to manage game. From there, you should see an option to clear saved date or storage (I’m not in front of my console). Clear the storage.
But do be warned that you should 1) take photos or screenshots of your LO and 2) redownload them going from largest to smallest.
Out of curiosity, did you make a new save on app playthroughs prior to the AE update in November?
I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it but I remember the announcement telling us to ensure a new save was created prior to the update.
I didn't even own a Xbox before the AE update
Weird…
Sorry farma was on it right i had a legion of customers
But yeah their should be 5 gbs of reserverd space clear that and restart ur box
It should clear up most of the space, but i swear no matter how many uninstalls and redownloads some of my more crazier mods still take up space
@tender nymph dont clear saved data that will delete or sometimes corrupt all ur saves just the reserved space
Only the 5gb reserved space those are ur mods the 30.1 mb is ur saved data might be a lil lower for u
Of higher if ur fallout 4 choomer
I'm trying it again just got the console back on
Oh no another monday without announcements
Still says three gigs are being used by nothing
Hahahaha what did u download
Which announcements were in Monday concerning Fallout?
If my way didnt work then i really have no idea, if u truly restarted ur xbox do a full shutdown might help
No idea. It's been like this since I got my xbox
Pls melt my Xbox
Could be bug problems but have been using series s sincd 2021 and that same issue has affected me over and over again but yeah just deleate reserved space full restart xbox and clear all mods in game in mod menu
Might be wiser to delete all mods in game first then clear them in my games and apps and then restart order might mattee
Why they put an elevator of death in nuka world galatic zone
I got u just download any weapons any attachment downlaod a mod that forces framerate increase and download a mod that fixes crashes u will watch that back fan spew out molten lava
Bc u get to fly up to the stars, a cheap marketring thing
I was hoping for PS4 fix. But it seems they are still working on it
That's a real style of attraction it's just janky enough to kill people because pre war America had basically no consumer protections
Hold on, I'll persuade them to stop it.
But really, as I said earlier in the mod channel.
It’s a shame that Beast Hunter & Bounty Hunter alone are like half a gb of storage lol now if you got UI, performance mods and other stuff? Forget any other mods
Well consumer protections costed money
Thank god i havent touched the game sincd 2025 sounds like a mess
If you can contact devs, can you hurry up them?
Could be why buddy sees all the space then might be the creation club content.
UOFP alone is 300+mb lol
My buddy has had the same problem on Skyrim for about two years now. We've tried every fix between us.
Skyrim has 10gb but i think skyrim doesnt need mods its perfect in vanilla only mods i download are lite graphic overhauls and perk fixes
Still nothing about the Bunker Home Pack either
The only other thing I can think of is clearing the saved data as well but then your saves are toast.
Todd is working on TES 6, Bunker Homes come after that xD
Any updates on the 100gb update
Sadly nope
Yeah that might fix it but i think its the creation club content. Filling up his mod space i dont have my xbox in front of me to tell u
They are still working on it
Im praying for tommarow if not then october
I like how Bethesda Support says "We're currently investigating an issue with the Bunker Home Pack Creation for Fallout 4, not installing properly for some PC players." meanwhile NO ONE can download it, way to soften the blow xD
“Some” that’s diabolical, everyone who owns it can’t update it 💀
Saying new year was like a hard promise
Why would people download it anyway it’s poorly made in my opinion
You can’t place stuff
lighting is terrible
I would download it, because it bugs me to do so every time I open the game xD
And I can fix the issues myself if I get down to wanting to use it
The cells for the bunkers Arnt named at all as well
There’s a mod on nexus by T03TA6 that fixes most of the bugs with the Bunker Home Pack, once again leave it up to modders to fix bethesdas screw ups
Plus there are better mods that are free that do it way better
Correcting the naming is like 30 seconds, the main issue with verified creations is that each update has to go through some kind of supposed testing
Be careful. Some people may get in and defend the studio
76…
Bethesda acknowledged it 2 days ago though, so we can give them the benefit of the doubt that it is simply not an immediate priority and they will address it sooner or later
You know what kinda annoys me tho the lack of communication between the Player base
I mean, I wouldn't care if I was them, given that the TV Show finale is like not even 2 days away, they probably have more pressing things... not saying it's a good approach, but it certainly is one
There's no need for any kind of bashing on the studio or developers, or spreading misinformation. All per the #rules of the server.
I keep saying that but nobody takes into account
We weren’t spreading misinformation dawg
There is no real proof that the studio or devs did anything wrong beyond passing the creation in an incomplete state. Agreed with no bashing
Brev, a quote isn’t “spreading misinformation” 💀
My PS4 might differ. But okey dokey
To be fair, it is funny that one message after saying lack of communication a mod shows up, Bethesda spidey senses xD
Anyways, I'm happy that we have Fallout 76, more than happy that we have the TV Show, and all stuff like that.
As for consoles, can't speak to those, never owned one in my life sadly.
We got one
Good for you
I meant specifically about the Bunker Homes
😂
🥀
If we start chanting maybe the mods will shut us down first
I miss my dlcs but everything is okey dokey
Dude got sniped in 0.1 seconds
Yep da rules
Im sorry
Oh, no, I agree, that is an issue. But I was specifically talking about the one creation the entire time
If it is not officially announced, we ask that it not be discussed here as it can be considered misinformation. As for everything else, remember to be respectful of each other and server/Bethesda staff, as per the #rules
I was testing to see if u were watching 🙂
I had a feeling the mods were going to say something,
That is a good rule honestly, given that half of our civilization believes they eat spiders at night from a social experiment about the spread of misinformation
I’m not hating on anybody it’s just that it’s getting annoying there’s no communication at all
We do though i eat them by the bundles
The other day I was said here that posting sony answers was missinformation. Then mod mail debunked sony
It literally is because of Sony, they don’t allow external/custom assets to be uploaded onto their platform
I would hate to be discord mod my lord the work and everyone treats u like a ghoul
They debunked that a long time ago. Everyone knows that we actually eat mini-kellogs at night.
Yeah... honestly, I think mods are kind of underappreciated. Without them the place would be a raging rioting mess 😄
Sure because of the long silence
Yes it would more chaotic than the wasteland
Lmao
I would gladly talk about the game but my dlcs are turned off
The Institute sure did make them tasty by turning them into cereal
Kinda means you have nothing else to do than talk about them, which one is your favorite? Or if you didn't get to play them yet, which one looks like you might like it the most? I love Nuka-World.
Vault-tec, automatron and far harbor. All lost
Aaaaaa, I forgot vault-tec one! I change my choice. I love Vault-Tec one and Nuka-World equally.
Far Harbor is my favorite because it feels like NV in a way, plus it used to be the only place in vanilla with an Enclave reference
SuGAR BomBS!!
I love the nuka agent that was trying to blow up the vim factory my kinda of corporate sabotage
They took corporate warfare a little too literally 
Nuka world feels like fallout 3 especially outside the parks, my only complaint is i wish we could use the settlement there before turning on the power but oh well
I wish we could’ve been able to somehow restore the parks and clean up all the rubbish
I fell in love with Nuka-World when the jingle played on my pip-boy. I was like... oh, I'm gonna like this. Then the start of it... such an absurdly ridiculous, yet fitting thing
Imo it's really good but not Far Harbor levels
Personally I liked the side stories a lot more than the main one
To me, Far Harbor feels more story heavy and choice driven, Nuka-World feels like just a place to have random fun. Both are great.
Tbh all 4 of the story DLCs are really fun, there’s not one I don’t like
Is there any way to skip the "Home Sweet Home" quest in the nuka world dlc ?
I just wish there was a way to help the traders set up their own trading settlement on par with Diamond City beyond just "kill the raiders"
Theres a mod called skip raiding your own settlements that does this
Yeah, I cannot bring myself to kill the Pack.
Far harbour is definitely my favourite its soo unqiue nuka world is unqiue too but i feel as if there is alot of empty space which makes me cringe, and screw those dam grasshoppers, i love the hidden stuff of far harbour just a little bit more
Disciples get it everytime in my playthroughs, can’t stand them
Same the other raiders are at least somewhat civilized with some... Morals? Ig, but the Disciples just disgust me
On the other hand, there is a way to skip the first settlement quest Garvey gives you when he sends you East. You can put a bullet in the settlers head, then say it didn't work out without any details whatsoever, and he makes you a general 😆 . Also, Disciples can rot.
I found that out accidentally once lol
Only good thing about diciples is the throatslicer and even that is not that good
Hello, I am experiencing a problem with Fallout 4. I installed several paid mods, but since I restarted the game, none of them work. The game bugs, and the content does not load, which affects my progress. I have invested a lot in these mods, and I am asking for your help to understand and resolve this issue. Furthermore, when I manage to open a mod, nothing happens. No quest, no mission, no progress possible. The content remains stuck.
Disciples are a good raider gang... but I don't trust them not to murder me in my sleep. And I want my fortress to be filled with people who have a reason to live alongside me more than blood for the blood gods. I do use their melee weapons though. They look fancy.
Dixie disguises as a settler looking for refuge to get the upper hand on people and kill them and then records their screams on Holotapes as souvenirs
Welcome to club take a seat and enjoy the show
Think u
Fr it's messed up
Yeah, for me that was the breaking point. I was onboard with letting all 3 live... but when I heard that... they had to go. They would mess up so many of my plans if I let them live.
They bite the dust every time, usually I just burn them alive because for what they did I feel like it's justice, plus Nate the Rake is psycho enough to do something like that lmao
Go back and make sure they're enabled there's a glitch where it sometimes disables itself when you download a creation and launch a game with it for the first time
I let ONE settlement have disciples in it without exterminating them, because I want to spite them by doing the exact opposite of what they would, but the ones in Nuka-World? Gone.
Sort of a prison colony more than anything lol
Honestly in general I like playing psycho protagonists who are also good guys but they are more than a bit chaotic and... Do things that anyone with any semblance of sanity or ability to feel fear would never do
Yeah, the Disciples are straight up sociopathic psychopaths on drugs with daggers. They fit in perfectly into fallout, but I have no clue how they managed to survive alongside the two other gangs
Probably because the others were too afraid of them to do anything
Which, honestly I can't blame them 😂
Like... The Pack are straight up friendly in comparison to them, and they love animals. The operators are pragmatic, I don't even consider those raiders, just mercs.
I played the game a long time ago and bought the creations, everything was working fine. I started playing again yesterday, and suddenly nothing works anymore. Everything is stuck. I deleted and reinstalled the game, but it’s still the same problem.
yo
Operators remind me of a mix between Talon Company and the Paradise Falls slavers
Oooh, they do kinda act like that
Like, I love the Pack for the vibes, the Operators for reliability. I do not believe either will stab me in the back without a reason. The Disciples will probably drink my blood in my sleep until I notice.
Honestly I'd argue the pack are the least likely to betray you since you basically are the strongest one in the park and you also do what they want too and it seems like they do value loyalty to an extent
And when you do good by them, you basically prove that you are where you belong - on top, leading them to a better future
They honestly seem more like a tribe than raiders imo
To be fair, the word tribes and raiders have often been used interchangably in fallout. I think it's more about lifestyle than being evil or harming people. Just like... social outcasts of sorts who gang up on Garvey's goons
True, and honestly I like that the raiders are more fleshed out, it makes them seem more human
Like how tribes were in NV's Honest Hearts
Technically speaking, we have good raiders - the pack, neutral ones - operators, and evil ones - disciples.
True
And I honestly feel like Garvey is making too much of a fuss over a few slaves, when the Commonwealth is practically without defenses. Like, you could easily turn the Operators into the Minutemen. The caps are there in patrolling and defense.
Like... there are what... maybe a hundred slaves between 3 gangs, and they run stores? I imagine the commonwealth raiders have far more.
Tbf the slaves are kinda where I normally would draw the line too, so I can see where he's coming from, plus he doesn't exactly have the best experience with mercenaries
Yeaaaa, but he also has no forces. Sometimes you have to make a compromise. Like... he never even suggested buying the slaves or negotiating for them.
He went straight to "kill everyone except the slaves or you will get no more quests from me"
That alone feels like raider behavior lol
I mean I feel like he has to threaten you with something other than a good thing lmao
No more "Another settlement needs your help"? Sign me up!
Also, conveniently complaining that the general is making unpopular decisions and refusing to cooperate is called insubordination, he essentially hijacks radio freedom 😆 not that I mind, I consider it a perk
I mean yeah that's true lmao
I just feel like the man is trouble. Either you kill the raiders in the entire Nuka-World who outnumber you by a thousand, or you will get no more minutemen resources, GENERAL.
Funniest thing is, I always house my raiders in like desolate distant places, so they have no contact with populated routes and other settlements... so that adds even more to it lol
Tbf in my playthroughs by that point I'm at the least kitted out in T-60C power armor armor with a minigun, assault rifle, fat man, tesla rifle, and more grenades than I could know what to do with so it isn't exactly out of the question that the General could do it
Could do it... sure... but the Minutemen aren't exactly rushing in to help you liberate those poor settlers, are they? Garvey doesn't even offer help, I think xD
That's where FCOM comes in
I just summon 36 PA MM soldiers and then I'm basically unstoppable 
Honestly though I do think that they should've added in Minutemen support for taking Nuka World
Would've made it so much easier, but still, the General definitely can do it alone
Is there a Creation for PS5 , that Gives Cheat like Damage with a weapon ?
If they didnt wanna be slaves they should have gone on strike
You see that they are told that if they don’t toe the line they will be fed to the bloodworms unarmed
I don't want the nuka raiders in the commonwealth. It is MY turf, they have no business here
Then they should win the fight 
Nuka World is an Evil Playthru unless you go straight to Open Season and waste all the gang leaders.
I was directed at a mod that make you skip "Home Sweet Home". Making the nuka raider a problem only to nuka world area... It's okay then
Unarmed against bloodworms? You go first! 😁
Your exploding collar awaits.
Evil all the way
It just works 
😁
Raider army combined with synth army = unstoppable ruler of America
If only there was shadowed synth armor...
If only Todd stopped bricking my mods every update
Be careful be can't say something about him
dont mention its name 🦟
Nah see on my good playthroughs I always wipe them out with an army of Minutemen using unique armor and guns and with unique companions just wiping them all out
do you like fallout
Tumbajamba's armor collection, Dak's MM armor, and the Minutemen Weapons mod make the MM so much better
Pffft no ofc not- Yes of course I do lmao
It's a waste of a storyline that would be perfectly okay if not for the quest where you have to invade the commonwealth
just download wacky weapons, you can make anything you want
question for smarter people than myself
sony restricts ""creations"" based on external assets
but then, we have creations like tunnel snakes rule, and capital wasteland mercs
why is that? i cant imagine the game just had the GNR plaza or the original 10mm pistol just hiding in the files
We 100GB yet, Gang?
No
dang.
well, at least I know the wait will be worth it, unlike Fable fans.
Ayo hold up, what you sayin about me? What you mean "unlike Fable fans" 
Ruby, C’mon, we both know the new fable ain’t gonna be to even TICKLE the nose hairs of the original fable, I know y’all’s is excited, but then comes the tumble.
Will more of the creation club stuff soon be transferred to PlayStation?
Homie, that hype train has already left the station… and there’s no way you’re stopping it

no official word, but it seems like sony is easing up. other games flat out allow external assets. there has been a few mods with them, but they seem to just have slipped through the cracks
My brother in Atom, what even is that PFP?
Ok good
i cant imagine a fable remake being nearly as good as the OG
I will admit that I do have my doubts on whether it can truly live up to the OG (I have more hours in Fable 2 than I do any other game I've played), but honestly even it it doesn't, I feel like it could maybe lay some groundwork for them to improve on. You never get it right the first time, especially coming from Forza and this being their first non-racing game but everything I saw from their showcase personally has me hopeful that they're taking the right lessons and making the right moves to at least show a damn good try. And don't worry mods, I won't stick on this topic, so please don't steal my other kidney 
Samantha from Dungeon Crawler Carl.
I swear to god, I better get to own a bordello.
And contract “diseases” you know what I mean.
I think it could easily be better
like we look back with rose tinted glasses now but the originals disappointed a lot of ppl too
the core ideas of fable being developed but free of molyneux's crazy ambitions
so we might actually get gameplay being developed instead of a 3d 'menu' no one asked for
I was trying to join the Brotherhood of Steel in this Survival playthrough, so naturally I go to do the first Quartermastery quest for Scribe Haylen.
This lady sends me all the way to Far Harbor to collect a Flux Sensor from Eagles Cove Tannery 💀
Ridiculous that the faction who has has Veritbirds can’t do it themselves 🙄
LOL
There’s a mod to stop such silliness
I want some good mods that add some pistols and laser weapons I am also looking for a plasma caster y’all know any let me know
Hey I was wondering if there was a fix to the Headless Enclave soldiers in Fallout 4 I was just trying to complete the Echoes of the Past Quest but the soldiers are headless and I don't have many mods that collide with Enclave stuff is a fix to it
hi anyone know why i cant finish fire support mission any solutions?
Yeah idk why but it happened to me aswell, Rhys also sends you to far harbour
They are ghost enclave, lmao, they are spirits from navarro
That's cool in theory but how do I actually fix this
Sorry yeah I was just jesting im idk, I’d file a ticket or something. I have yet to find the enclave in my newest playthru so I can’t say for certain if it’s you or it’s a problem in the mass. Do you have mods?
Yes but they're mostly outfit mods and new weapons
In NV theres a similar issue if you get outfit mods. Maybe it’s a model conflict or smth idk, but I’d see if it’s the mods
Okay I'll try that
Im really sorry my guy, I wish I knew.
Oof
thats what i mean they are good in rpg but they drifted away from that. they have a big monopol on their ips... elder scrolls, fallout. good games, big time. maybe its just got to their heads. i know money rules the world and yeah having bread on the table is a good thing but bethesda trying to ultra capitalize everything shows what the higher ups really want and thats a liquid money flow with low effort and no care for old fans. i cant even blame them the fallout show and fallout 76 makes them so much. its not like years ago when bethesda was a indie studio trying to get known with their knew enigens and style of game programming. today its like bethesda forgot to hop on the train to capitalize everything like ubisoft and other studios with micro transactions and its so cringe for the real bethesda fans because they f'ed up to be like big money studios with cash grabbing intuition and the higher ups hate that they dont got hold of that because the fanbase is not like the casuals.
Kingdomcome is their biggest conpetitor right know and they are miles better and miles better to please their fans, its a indie studio they made the first title from scratch and its wow.
bethesda lost and they are on the way to lose their title as the first innovative studio that makes good rpgs.
Who are you excluding from the "real Bethesda fans" scope?
On what condition are you suggesting PersonA is a "real" fan, but PersonB is not?
Still can’t download the Bunker Home Pack…
Rhys a bum
Ok, so on my current playthrough of Fallout 4 on Xbox the quest Taking Independence never started. I cleared the castle before the quest like I always do so the Minutemen don't die. I've maxed out Preston's Affinity and Built the Signal Interceptor there. I have all the settlements except Spectacle Island, and all the egg clutches, Mirelurk Queen corpse are still there. All Preston does is keep giving me settlement quests and never brings up the castle. Any ideas?
i had a captain cosmos spacesuit in my red rocket workbench, and now its not there. any ideas?
i know settlers eat from there, can they also take items?
i only have companions at this settlement, and provisioners going out to other settlements
doh nvm, its "armored"
first time using ballistic weave lmao
Settlers will take weapons from storage and will use any power armors that have fusion cores
what's the best way to store stuff you dont want stolen, outside of player homes?
Maybe an unmanned settlement
So what does it mean if I don’t have mods?
Does anyone know if Fallout 4 is going to be updated to fix the DLC issues? I'm on PS4 and I really want to play with my DLC.
good to mention, yeah its ignorant to talk for everybody but i just talk what most people think and i know you are a big defender in discord and you like to keep it neutral and you like bethesda i think. nothing against that, nice that you challenge me on my words
thanks for giving me contrast
i consider myself as a real fan lol... because when iam in a discord for a game, flaming spamming frustrated because nothing works, that means something... never i was in a discord for a game like that. i love that damn game and i hate it that i just started fallout 2025 before the game breaking bug for the ps4 where the dlcs dont work anymore... iam one of the hardcore fans.
More of a elder scrolls guy and then i gave fallout 4 a shot and after a month it got broken while i started to like that game...
a true fan doesnt complain about what they arent getting they are contempt with what they have, yes BGS is failing but ill still play there games no matter what happens, not KCD. I find saying people are true fans and others not to be mentally stupid imo.
not saying your dumb ive just seen people swear on their lives that if you like any game other than fallout one your not a true fan
but im glad an ES fan is trying fallout lol
my friend who was a diehard by the book heavily religious ES fan from 3 to skyrim and he never wanted to touch fallout.
It’s a sony problem
It is actualy a bethesda problem
Sony refuses to allow Bethesda to update PS4 version
Can i get your source please?
the moderators
iam nothing like that, not a gatekeeper. Iam open minded, just frustrated. i mean i like that game lol i just want to that it works again. and thats a fan right there, i mean i am really specific about my games and when a good game won my heart and the studio behind it that i also really like because of elder scrolls f's up that makes me as a fan mad because after all these problems it makes me feel they got other priorities and yeah i just started fallout 4 in 2025
and if you maybe think i am dumb writing like that. english is my 2 language. not that you said that but i just wanted to clarify that
Nah i don't think so
????
Even if it was real bethesda mods aren't supose to divulgate information like that
ES6 delay does wonders to the human mind 😭
@errant echo please tell him in right
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/72932 - Please know that we are working to bring this Creation to PlayStation at a later date and it would continue to be free for players.
So the question you have to ask yourself is, why would that be?
See?
Search out "Sony external assets"
Is given the awnser for the delay, refuses to believe offical info.
Mh ig anyways, still no information for the 100gb?
Anyone else hate that you have to kill Kellogg to start most of the quest lines?!
No hes a horrible person
I know but some of the quests don’t start until he’s gone
So any news on fallout 4 getting the creation club item yet or nothing
So how is Sony preventing the update on Xbox?
Anyone know how to fix the "Run for the hills" quest added by the new free CC addon "Revenge of the Van Graffs"? I tune to the SOS signal, and the quest does not update. The only other creations i have are things like the Doom BFG, doom marine armor, Tale of the beast hunter, the varmint rifle, and the aquatic camo gun and PA paint. No mods, as i have been playing achievement friendly as of late.
Cause I’m still waiting for my storage
I keep thinking they are making sure everything works before launch
It could be - you used to have mods and they left "stuff" behind so you might need to uninstall and delete the folders, or you have a damaged FO4 install and need to verify files, or maybe you have a weird new bug I've never heard of that was added by the Anakin Edition (it hates sand).
Nope at this point I considered playing the forbidden Fallout game
Fallout brotherhood of steel and tactics
Don't forget the unwanted child. New vegas
Tactics was good, plus R. Lee Ermey! The PS/2 BoS thing not so much.
Real
Curie has to be the best companion
Nah she's french
Imagine doing a playthrough of fallout 4 as Gunnery sargent hartman
And just go around insulting people like Preston garvey
Yoo we need to remaster every old fallout i swear
Like imaging beeing able to play fallout 1/2 and tactics in a fallout 4 style
Nah it would get censored af, too dark
Mods
It would suck as a base game if they censured how the og gore and creatures, gameplay
Yeah..
I think you could also kill kids in those games
I think on February 4th might be just fallout 4 on switch 2 and fallout 76 current gen hey im wrong im wrong
Most non-copium answer I've seen. I saw a reddit comment that had allot of upvotes talking about COOP fallout 3 re-master. WOuld that be incredible? yes. Do i believe it? Hell no. Thats GIGA cope, as cool as it would be
If I am wrong I am wrong
for sure. Its just an answer that I think is most in line with what they would do. Being wrong about this would be a good thing, but its good to keep expectations tame
I know I'm going to regret asking this, but how exactly is NV an "unwanted child"?
For the player base, it isn't. "Others"....😂
Think that's referencing how Bethesda seemed to ignore it for a long time.
Beginning of the game, should I scrap everything in the hometown or just continue with the story quests?
You've got plenty of time, don't rush
If you have the mod Sim Settlements 2, it's worth clearing some of the main debris.
Another day of wishing for a bug free Bunker Home Pack download
Is this CC?
Yep, comes with the Creations Bundle, something you paid money for can’t even be downloaded and Bethesda could care less about it, I don’t even think there’s been an official announcement about it
That's ok. Don't use CC stuff myself
At what point in the automatron dlc does it change how random encounters work?
Personally, pretty much right away
I just came across the "event" and had bot swarms showing up in the usual places
If I remember correctly can't remember where but someone said when you kill your first rust devil that's when it changes the random encounters
Hadn't noticed that. Will check on my next playthrough
Honestly I'd be eternally grateful to anyone that does myth busting for fallout 4
I'm hoping the update is this week with the finale
Update for what ?
Adding 100gb mod space for consoles and hopefully a bunch of bug fixes
That would be awesome but what id kill for is an ncr ranger armor that's achievement friendly
Although I'm a PC user, I really hate how the console players are getting screwed
I mean you kinda get that with tale of the beast hunter *KINDA
Rip PlayStation players
Yeah but it's just soo uggggg like I get remixing it to make it not just a direct copy of it but
I usually just use the helmet with the bounty hunter duster and it looks good enough, maybe the minutemen general outfit might work better
Yeah, these guys got hit hard....🤦♂️
Not only are most of them on consoles that can barely run the game vanilla but because of Sony's rules they can't have certain mods
I wish for more achievements friendly mods
Personally, I don't worry about "achievements"....just enjoy the game
Yeah but achievements are kinda an anchor for me all it takes is one mod to make the game way too easy
And if I'm gonna mod it there's no fixing the story to be good so I might as well just play a different game if I'll have to mod it that much
You don't sound happy with all the comlaining you're doing. Maybe play something lese?
How is that complaining
It is what it is
You're fine Leon, just looks like a normal convo to me 
I thoroughly enjoy fallout 4 even with its subpar story lmfao
The only questionable thing about you is your rather.. interesting profile but I don't judge 
What profile ?
Your discord bio. I had to take a look because of the name and good lord 
I don't see what's wrong with it frankly
Is this real?
Possibly either that or an announcement of 3 and nv remaster which I doubt will happen
Fallout fans are doing the same thing half life fans did with the game awards
The update for consoles is in fact real and being worked on, we have no idea if it will drop after the finale or not 
Most likely the day after or more because that's when 76 gets an update I think
Only time will tell 
Copium
how do you buy creation credits? Ive been trying but whenever i hit the purchase credits button it redirects me to the steam storefront
Im playing on PC
my bethesda.net account is linked as well
If you go to the Fallout 4 store page, scroll down to the dlcs and there's one called Creations, click on that and it'll give options for how many credits to buy 
ty
Did anyone knew that Horatio foreshadow a quest
Same
There are some mods that try to fix the main story. But it’s not easy to fix the whole thing.
✅
And it’s not what it’s not.
And for the rest, there are mods. 😁
Guys i've Been thinking What if Power armors had Like Attachments By that i mean imagine a New powerarmor,Heavy,giving amazing stats But It also comes with a shoulder mounted 4 barrel Lock on rpg That you have to reload manualy.Not only that imagine A fatman atrached to A power armor like artillery range could be Adapted using a special Device built into the Armor's Left Arm
No it's not working now
What is not working
Confirmed?
Peak
I wish
Wasteland 3 was a masterpiece, the true New Vegas sequel 
It would be nice
And Fallout (1) was a Wasteland remake. Arguably.
At least we have a new update in helldivers 2 we got a tank before fallout 4 patch and expansion
Today may be the day
Ngl we all have a proper reason to crash out if we don't hear anything today granted it's another season of the show ending
"Tonight is the night " dexter said
If we dont get news its over
Also worth bringing up they added a pack to 76 and slapping a 30 Euro price tag it, while maintaining radio silence on 100gb update and any updates on Starfield content. We should probably ask for whatever is they are smoking, cos it ain't Buffout or Jet is it
Btw that pack also has a pay to win 4 star weapon as well as the NCR and Legate armor.
At this point i only care about fallout 4 and the remasters other bethesda games i know they aint doing well
They waste all this time on the MMO's when they could have easily released the content of said MMO's as proper expansions and DLC's thus driving sales through the roof but alas they don't think like that.
Different people working on 76 than F4, same with Starfield so it doesn't mean anything that those games are getting updates while there's silence on the 100gb update/PS4 fixes. Just let them work at it and they'll release it when it's ready.
What we are dealing with is blatant disrespect of the consumer the PS4 players can't even access the dlcs they paid for and the PS5 players are missing content "the CC mods like Beast Hunter" that they bought the AE for...
Then Xbox players who have been dying to finally get their dream mod play through going are being disrespected by the radio silence...
The 100GB mod increase WAS set for December but then they said "EARLY" 2026 which means January to one and a half weeks into February...
Beast hunter is such an good mod
Respectfully, I'd appreciate you don't imply that I think everything is perfectly fine and there's no problems because I actually have shown my sympathy and respect to those suffering these problems lately. I get that the update got delayed several times, people in this server have even been trying to help provide ideas and delve into why it's happening with varying results, I'm just saying you can't expect answers if there's still difficulty in fixing the problem. They tried to say when it'd be out, it backfired twice, they're now taking their time to do it at their own pace. I just think the daily routine of finding things to blame and say "they shouldn't have done this" isn't a very "realistic" approach, personally.
It's ok I wouldn't go that far.
Well it was free and the suit is amazing but hey maybe not for everyone
Let's hope for just one last day
Fair points have been made it's just we have reached a breaking point. All of our patience has been expended and yet no form of reassurance or anything to tell for has come out from their end of this.
An actual Nuclear event is more likely to take place than hearing anything from Bethesda at this point 🤣
Today will be a day.
I fully get ya. You all have a right to be frustrated and express it, I just like to poke my head in to make sure no one gets too conspiratory because some people here really love to pull out some weird cards in this whole ordeal..
I genuinely do hope you all get it soon, along with maybe a bit of compensation for the delays too. I think even a small token alongside would be a kind gesture.
Hey guys just a quick reminder to follow the #rules This includes the spreading of rumors or misinformation, and being respectful towards another- this includes emojis.
Me thinking Tato was about to rip my head off: 
I’m scared now ! 😁
Maybe a rare collectors item Fallout 4 plastic tote bag?!? 😁
Imagine if Fallout 4 was good
Don't have to I can just play fallout 4
I play Fallout 4 all day, and I imagine if it was perfect. 😁
I'm working on a mod of my own for Fallout
Does it include making Fallout 4 good
I replace every single Codsworth and Mr Handy line of dialogue with Matt Berry voice lines
Your mod will win Game Of The Year 2026
Wish the update would drop already
Every players when we talk with them about this potential update :
I very well could be play station or Sony
okay I'm having trouble, literally none of the cc-added radio station works
do I need to redownload stuff, I skipped the radio call for Revenge of the van Graff quest but like nothing else seems to work
There is a known issue with that mod
Today is the day?? Copium
Dudes im going crazy building the teleporter for the institute thing
Guys what the hell is going on with the escape from Boston landscape and interiors mod cuz at one point my landscape is nice and green with the trees with leaves and now majority of rhe trees dont have leaves, like its dead
Making me restart the game all over again due to that error and mistake of that mod is doing
Is the dirt also black square on it for you too
? The t60 pistol is it available on ps5 as Google say yes it's in creation club but I don't see it anywhere
I cleared Galatic Zone and added all 35 star cores and unlocked most of the Nuka World Automatron parts. Yet I’m missing ones like the Red and Blue Auto Space Lasers for the left and right hands. How can I fix this? I really don’t wanna have to reload an old save to get those
You have to I think
Where do I ask questions? Sorry for asking
1 month later and still no news about the storage increase?
I've reached level 51 without cheats, glitchs, idiot savant or anything.... I still need a few levels to complete my core build raaaaaaah
Anyone got a good legit xp tips ?
Take ur best gear and just conquer place after place
If u take over the whole southern part of map from the shipwreak with russian ghouls to the glowing sea u can easily get 20+ levels
Take a seat, and enjoy the show ur gonna be here awhile.
Probably give it a few months
I feel as humans we have to right the speak any language and of course in fallout many characters speak other languages, such as latin, russian and sometimes french