fallout-4-chat

[tepid dew]

in FO4, does aynone know why i hear 2 people speaking when its just 1 talking? i tried relaunching it; same thing, also, the sound space is wierd (i hear something on the back space of my earphones, but the sounds are at the front of me

[simple ginkgo]

Eh rather play with mods in my opinion

[strange sapphire]

honestly… it’s either someone in the voice line’s play distance (off screen) or it’s bugged

is it a consistent issue across the game or is it one specific instance?

[tepid dew]

its in the house at the beginning, but not constant, it activates sometimes then cuts,

i will try again right now though

[strange sapphire]

could definitely be a glitch then; maybe try walking around the house to see what the source is?

usually I try to find it and kill it via console commands but if it’s Codsworth or the wife/husband of your character then it’s not possible to play the game

[fleet schooner]

Mods usually disable achievement, but there are mods that allow bypassing this, tho I don't know if I can post it here just in case BSG Moderator dislike such idea

[strange sapphire]

fair enough

[tepid dew]

I think its gone now, but now i cant sprint in the house,

[fleet schooner]

you play w mod?

go to Fallout4.ini (even if you aren't modded)

look for this line and change it from 1 to 0

[Gameplay]
fPlayerDisableSprintingLoadingCellDistance=0

it fixed it for me, but idk about you

[tepid dew]

can i just put that in launch options?

[fleet schooner]

is this PC or PS4

[tepid dew]

PC

[fleet schooner]

oh, if then I rather just go to INI file

it's Document/ My Game/ Fallout 4

idk about Launch option, never bother touching

[tepid dew]

alright man

[strange slate]

I found it kinda ridiculous that in Fallout 4, they send a deathclaw in basically the 2nd tutorial of the game. It’s a thing that Fallout 4 failed to do that Fallout 3 did. If you follow the story in Fallout 3, there will always be a Behemoth at Galaxy News. I am pretty sure this is the inspiration of the deathclaw fight in Fallout 4 but it’s done so poorly.

[fleet schooner]

the thing was that not until up later in Fo3 you get Power Armor

in Fallout 4 they gave you a set of PA, and a Minigun right at the beginning of the gun

the PA isn't the problem since the T45 is kinda bad, but the Minigun was to be so powerful so they have to nerf it to kingdom come

in FO4 they also give you a Fat man and you can grab it without any problem at level 0

[neat temple]

When will the next gen come out

[merry mirage]

If stimpaks are used on humans and robot packs are used on robots, then why do we use stimacks on Valentine?

[flint nest]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[fleet schooner]

well since he's both machine and organic so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weak coyote]

Nick has no organics?!

[weak coyote]

Because Valentine existed before Automaton dlc, and they didn't bother changing it in a patch to make sense.

[flint nest]

the only thing organic about Nick is the blood and guts of our enemies

[fleet schooner]

Fallout 4 companion after you steal 3 pieces of trash: Blue, You are worthless, you are a waste of oxygen, you should die now!

Fallout 3/NV Companion after you steal entire NCR Camp: We chill yes yes?

[flint nest]

one of my favorite mods

"unowned trash - taking trash isnt theft"

now i just need a mod to make the pie in the Dug Out Inn unowned

even tho ill probably never win it again

[fleet schooner]

or ya kno

[strange sapphire]

guys I finally got Benevolent Leader

[fleet schooner]

just drag it into a restroom

[strange sapphire]

the right way to go

[fleet schooner]

im sure Diamond City isn't lacking of any restroom

[strange sapphire]

I’ve stolen so many Nuka-Quantums that way

[flint nest]

i cant, its in the port a diner container

[fleet schooner]

no way

[restive violet]

could someone help me do a long time ago i downloaded mods and stuff and i was trying to get rid of them earlier and i deleted some files and folders in the data folder could someone send me a picture of what the data folder should look like for vanilla game

[fleet schooner]

just delete the entire game folder and reinstall fallout 4

[restive violet]

ok thanku that will remove any mod files right? even hidden ones ? created by vortex and stuff

[fleet schooner]

the reason why that is mainly because some mod overwritten the content inside certain files, document, so not even that you "restore" to look like vanilla, all the contents won't be vanilla and even more proned to CTD

[fleet schooner]

mainly what get affected should be in My Document/ Fallout 4 and steam or main game folder of Fallout 4

I usually use Mod org 2 because it has a feature to show me where are the file folder locations are

Vortex idk much I haven't touched it for 3 months now

[restive violet]

ok thanku also by this message does that mean my game won’t ever be vanilla again? even if i delete all of the fallout files and reinstall?

[fleet schooner]

but tbh, unless you didn't download F4SE, or ENB or anything injected to main game folder, i don't think much is gonna happena

[restive violet]

i did download F4SE there was a folder in data that said F4SE and i deleted it earlier

[fleet schooner]

if you delete the entire modded main game folder now and uninstall again (in steam) and reinstall from steam, steam will give you the original folders as it believed that you have corrupted the old file, everything new in installation will be originally new

delete the Fallout 4 folder in Document/My Game also

some people might have a better way to, but I found this works best for me since it only takes 30 minutes to redownload Fallout 4

[restive violet]

oki thanku for the help appreciate it so i shouldn’t have too go to anything like %appdata% for any files right? if yk what i’m talking abt and when i delete the fallout 4 files from steam and then document i just delete the whole file correct

[fleet schooner]

that I do not know but usually Mods would be confined to Main game folder, Vortex mod folder, and Document folder

[restive violet]

oki thanku

[fleet schooner]

there is one file in Roaming> Local, you can try deleting it to do a fresh installation, but I don't think it affect much

I have never touched it, and it never caused me problem

[restive violet]

ok and yes i do believe u have too do %appdata% because there’s a vortex folder in there so ima just delete that aswell

[fleet schooner]

try switching to MO2, it's a bit more tedious to install mod but you can see everything better

[strange slate]

Nick is a Gen 2 Synth so he does have organic substance as all synths do

Although the real answer is that Bethesda forgot

[distant sedge]

...not really though? The only organic synths are Gen 3 (which is why Shaun's DNA was needed in the first place), Gen 1 and Gen 2 (including "Gen 2.5" ones like Nick and DimA) are just human-shaped robots. Which TBH is why I think Gen 3 shouldn't actually be named " Synth Gen 3" but something else because the only thing they have in common with the first 2 gens is the Institute made them, otherwise they're a completely different thing.

[strange slate]

I guess so, also they should have definitely called Gen 1 and 2s “androids” like Dr. Zimmer does and called the Gen 3s “Synths”

[unborn sentinel]

the game keeps crashing when i try to finish the game lol the last cutscene plays for a second then dies any fix have restarted my pc 3 times

[gleaming tide]

Could be a quest script error

[unborn sentinel]

i got steam to validate the files and it was ok tried it and it crashed again always at the same point

[strange sapphire]

legitimate question; why are Radscorpions so much harder to kill than literal Deathclaws 😭

[strange slate]

I think it’s because they nerfed deathclaws movement wise

[strange sapphire]

I can sweep a Deathclaw in about a minute (I don’t use my Power Armor much or any of the explosive weapons + minigun) but I’ve been struggling with the Radscorpions

[strange sapphire]

fair enough ngl

[strange slate]

Also radscorpians are usually in groups

Deathclaws aren’t anymore

[pure sigil]

This happens more than you think during that cut scene.
Although you won't get the pleasure of watching it you can try just simply skipping the cinematic.
Watch it on YouTube if you want to see enjoy it

[weak coyote]

Armored exoskeleton, only weak point is small face target... Deathclaws weak point is a large exposed belly.

[hasty canopy]

Anyone have any good recommendations for a survival run? Like build factions ect

[weak coyote]

Stealth, sniper rifle,auto rifle, pistol and knife for back up... Minutemen... Use red rocket for main home, stores, link to Abernathy food farm,link to sanctuary water farm... Only use those 3 settlements, build them up, grow vegetable soup, antibiotics, refreshing beverages, adhesive.

Mod survival to be harder and as realistic as possible

[feral wigeon]

I have two suggestions for the next gen patch: 1. Allow us to have Dogmeat and humanoid companion together. 2. Fix the low texture resolution bug

[flint nest]

barely if any new stuff will be added to the base game/DLCs, mostly bug fixes (probably bigger ones) and Creation Club DLCs

even tho as much as i would want them to touch up several things

like settlements, mostly making more stuff scrappable and making some stuff disappear when you claim a workshop (skeletons, bodies, and the raider bodies outside the boundaries of Hangmans ally)

[gaunt wolf]

I have a genuine question: Is Fallout New Vegas not listed here because it was developed by Obsidian?

[proven elm]

That is correct. This is a Bethesda Games Studio Discord.

[gaunt wolf]

I was just wondering because it said it was published by Bethesda so I thought it'd be here,

Thanks for the info tho 👍

[flint nest]

same, Bethesda own the rights to Fallout 1, 2 and NV so one would figure any official forums or server would have sections for them

[gaunt wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not Bethesda, so I couldn't say.

[mint lodge]

No. Next gen patch needs, and I stress needs to address the memory leaks that occur when a player heads into the "death triangle" around Faneuil Hall in downtown Boston on Series S/X (modded or unmodded, this is a SERIOUS hard crash to dashboard/hard lock area of the map). Something is legitimately broken with the Precombines or the meshing in this area. That should be the PRIORITY. This area doesn't work? It kills a LOT of the game (Goodneighbor outskirts, Old North Church etc).

[proven elm]

Fallout: New Vegas was published by Bethesda Softworks. As stated, this is not a Bethesda Softworks Discord.

[gaunt wolf]

Ohh I see the distinction now, sorry

[swift copper]

Lol okay

[flint nest]

i would file that under "big bugs" that would probably come first and foremost

stability should always be the main concern with any update

[mint lodge]

TBH, I think this issue was the BIG drive to make the "next gen patch" as FO4 was utterly broken on Next Gen in that specific area, for almost everyone on a series platform. Worked fine on PS4 / Xbox One, but not on series S/X at all.

The modding community has narrowed it down to three things.

1. broken meshing and precombines.
2. too many spawns.
3. too many screen draws causing FPS drops that the game cannot recover from.

Im eager to see what the patch includes, but surely hope its top ticket item is a complete rebuilt of the cells around Faneuil Hall, everything in between Haymarket Mall and the Old Corner Bookstore within the loadable uGrids.

[steady tundra]

Decided to try out Fallout 4 GOTYE as GOG had a great sale recently.
Loving it so far. Is there any of the random junk in the first few towns that's worth keeping? I'm an in-game packrat and this game is REALLY testing me!

😆

Even though the DLC hi-res pack is said to be not so good, I loaded it anyway. Trying to play vanilla at first with just the unofficial patch.

[fleet schooner]

I am still waiting for Fallout London

so I can stereotypically shank someone in the alley of London

[grizzled swift]

Scrap it all! Scrap it all!

[steady tundra]

Ahhh, break down into base building/mod components.

[fleet schooner]

tbh mainly focusing on Alluminum, Adhesive, Screw

those are very rare junks that don't appear a lot in the beginning

focus on getting Tato, Mutfruit and Corn too, and get Science 1 so you don't have to worry about Adhesive anymore

if you want screw you can unlock Scrapper, so any auto guns scrapped can yield 1-2 screws

Aluminum now is the hard part as it's both rare, and non-obtainable from scrapping weapons

[steady tundra]

Ok. Cool.
I have a feeling that this game may suck me in for many, many hours.

[fleet schooner]

oh yeh and leather too if you focus on up your armor

[steady tundra]

Graphics aren't too bad at all with the hi-res pack and bethINI settings turned up to max.
Surprising for an 8 year old game.

Skyrim never got a 58GB hi-res texture pack!

[fleet schooner]

never install hi res btw

it doesn't "HD" your thing, but made your game run even worse

and its around 40GB

best if you just download HD texture overhaul

[steady tundra]

I've seen the breakdown Google sheet. Yeah, many are the exact same texture but many of the items/weapons/clothing/armor is increased.

I loaded it just for the vanilla experience. It's not gonna slow down this rig. 😉

[fleet schooner]

I am modded gameplay dude so I think some weapon retex mod looks better

well that's me for modded texture so yep yep

also download the Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch if you use Hi Res texture btw

[steady tundra]

Oh, I may add some more textures on top of this, eventually.

[steady tundra]

Already have the unofficial patch installed.

[fleet schooner]

now get BUffout 4

[steady tundra]

[google searches]

[fleet schooner]

right now I want to heavy mod my game but FO4 at high Plugin tend to crash

and even ESL convert doesn't really fix much

[steady tundra]

does buffout 4 include high fps physics fix? ...cause I already have a separate mod installed for that.

If yes, I'll just dump that other one and install this which does more.

[fleet schooner]

Buffout 4 increase Engine durability so it can increase normal FPS, performance

High FPS physic should go along w it

I downloaded it without High FPS Physic once, and everything is zoomie

[steady tundra]

Thanks. Will load it.

[fleet schooner]

I would suggest to remove Vsync and God ray too

you can do that by editting Ini files

[steady tundra]

Vsync is already off.
Godrays looks great. Why remove?

[fleet schooner]

Godrays for Fallout 4 vanilla is painfully unoptimized, if you want to keep it on, consider using mod to increase quality without harming the optimization

it's one of the reason why your game fps dipped when entering Boston

[steady tundra]

Ok. Will check out.

[fleet schooner]

its funny that I have never finished FO4 story

[steady tundra]

But how many hours do you have in it?

I've only finished the MQ of Skyrim 2-4 times but I have about 2000 hours in it since 2011. Haven't played in this year though - moving on.

[fleet schooner]

well for Fallout 4 I have had 1000 hours put in it

it's my most played Fallout game

yet I never finished the story

[bitter estuary]

I really like the fallout 4 story line and feel like there should be another game kinda like that

[lilac saffron]

Anyone know how to fix codsworth he's glitched right at the start of the game so I can't do anything

[mint light]

It's been a long time since I did it but I believe if you reload a save before you exited the vault it should fix.

[vague basin]

When you exit the vault, stay put and wait for all the DLC messages to go by.

[nimble forum]

Hi, editing my custom.ini is there a way to write comments after a setting, so i dont forget what it does or note the default value? For example:
[VR]
bVrShowIntroBink=0 //skip intro video

[fleet schooner]

I think Fallout 4 might be written in LUA so idk

[feral wigeon]

comments start with #

FATE Patch has them set up that way in its included ini

[steady tundra]

DLC messages? I guess the GOTYE removed them.

[steady tundra]

Is there a way to scrap ashtrays, TV dinner trays, and all of that type of junk?

[vague basin]

The ones from the CC content if you have them. They spam a bunch of quest notifications.

[feral wigeon]

put them in the workshop

they get scrapped as needed

[steady tundra]

I just have all the official DLCs.
It's the GOG version, so no Creation Club.

[steady tundra]

Is it only for that one workshop or do all workshops then have these scraps to be broken down.

[feral wigeon]

then Codsworth shouldn't glitch for you

[feral wigeon]

wdym?

all workbenches in the settlement share inventory

[steady tundra]

Nope. He doesn't (so far). I was just curious as I never got any DLC message.

[steady tundra]

I mean, if I dump all the junk in the workshop in Sanctuary will other workshops have that stuff too. I'm guessing not.

[fleet schooner]

i wonder if GOTY is more stable than standard

[steady tundra]

No issues so far.

I loaded up BethINI, set it all to ultra, and then threw all the visual distance settings to max.

Game still hold up visually, today.

[fleet schooner]

I am using standard Fallout but when it comes to mod it crashes a lot so I wonder if GOTY would eliviate some system problem somewhat

[steady tundra]

For anyone looking. GOG still has the GOTYE for only $9.99.

[steady tundra]

...but not across all of FO4, right?

[feral wigeon]

no

unless you establish trading routes

just play the game

[fleet schooner]

the Trade Route require Local Leader has to be my most hated perk

[steady tundra]

Damn. This game has some intricacies.

Maybe even more so than Skyrim.

[fleet schooner]

well it's really not tbh

beside for an infuriating settlement system, I dont think its as intricated and detailed as skyrim

[past junco]

how much data is fallout 4 on my xbox series s?

[sturdy viper]

Drop them on the ground, open workshop highlight and scrap, building something has a bad habit of only taking what you need and discarding the rest.

[steady tundra]

Will try. Thanks.

[flint nest]

yk, i wish Bethesda did more with the Boston Airport settlement, theres so much unused potential, the parking garage, the land across from Primes gantry, basically the whole airport could of been turned into a settlement for housing, farmland, and storage cause we all know that the prydwen with the lousy dozen beds aint gonna supply a entire army

[weak coyote]

Hundreds

[strange sapphire]

sooo… I’m playing through Fallout 4’s final act for the first time; I haven’t played any prior Fallout games but I’m assuming Liberty Prime is important from being in one of the past games?

[vague basin]

Yeah, in that case you won't have any DLC messages to let process. People with a lot of CC DLCs do though and it can take a good long time before they stop.

[strange sapphire]

does anyone know how to end up at The Nuclear Option?

[sleek cave]

So thankful we have fallout 4 and mod support console I am loving exploring with Heather and thinking hrrrrm I wonder what Bethesda done with starfield love fallout 4 heaps. It’s ready helping to cure the wait for starfield

[sick drift]

Help, I’m doing long time coming and I’m at the part where I have to follow much after killing Eddie and he’s just getting stuck and not moving at the corner before the room opens up into a cafeteria looking area and I’ve tried downing him to fix his ai but that won’t work and I’m on console

[viral flower]

How do I know if a Creation Club item has an update

[flint nest]

there will be a "update" section iirc

[viral flower]

I'm guessing it's only there when a CC item has an update

Since there's none for me

[fleet schooner]

the only thing I hate about Character Creation is that a lot of cool weapons aren't on the Levelled List

[strange sapphire]

URGENT!

How do I get to the next part of Underground Undercover after “continue working with father”? I understand that I need to complete Mass Fusion and Pinned, but does it happen during Powering Up? Do I tell the Railroad about the orders?

[fleet schooner]

your pipboy should update it man

[strange sapphire]

it never updated for me and I already finished Nuclear Family once

[fleet schooner]

wait 24 hours @strange sapphire

[strange sapphire]

oh mb

[steep bison]

i've lost Piper in Commonwealth 😂

[strange sapphire]

I accidentally killed Emmett

[quasi ore]

Guys, how do I get rid of the mess on the roads of sanctuary?

[hidden sonnet]

where next gen

[winter geode]

This but MacCready. Had to start the game over because he was important to my build.

[hasty canopy]

Anyone have a good build recommendation for survival

[pure sigil]

A scrapping mod is the only way.
A few bits can be removed using console commands but a lot of it doesn't have an ID.
On PC I use Scrap Everything, it must be placed at the bottom of your load order. Be careful scrapping, it's very easy to scrap something you didn't mean to, save often when using.

[quasi ore]

Thx for the help man!

[weak coyote]

Mod : sts + living and dead plugin... Read description carefully, load order must be correct.

[weak coyote]

If it's the scrap everything mod I know about... Wouldn't recommend using it, it breaks pre combines and causes major fps issues and crashes.

[weak coyote]

Stealth silenced sniper

[ancient steppe]

https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo/status/1694341434558800261?s=20

Prime Video (@PrimeVideo)

📍 Vault 33
Location: Los Angeles

Fallout, an original series, coming to Prime Video in 2024

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2751

Retweets

825

Twitter · Aug 23, 2023, 1:30 PM

[lilac saffron]

Fallout 4 when might the update come and will there be a new dlc

[flint nest]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[knotty granite]

I'm guessing it's a control vault for movie stars

[steady tundra]

Last I heard it's still sometime in 2023.

[steady tundra]

Anyone know of a survival mode mod that disables (or allows adjustments of) the survival incoming/outgoing damage modifier?

I like the immersion of eating/drinking/sleeping/diseases/etc. but I HATE damage sponges since it, ironically, breaks immersion.

[worn fjord]

How to cure mole rat disease

[flint nest]

Cant, unless you take the cure for yourself or mod a extra cure in

The best way tho is to not let it infect you, which requires dismissing your companion (cause iirc theres a bug where if they get hit, you'll get infected) and hard saving before you enter the hidden vault, and then hard saving after every encounter with mole rats

[worn fjord]

Or duplicate the cure and save everyone like i did 🙃

Its sad how no one try to do it that way

Because the cure is not a quest item so you can drop it

[flint nest]

I didnt even know that you could duplicate it

I knew you could dupe Power Armor, scrap, and bottlecaps, at least on console, but i didnt find a way to dupe other items

Please teach me tho

[mint lodge]

Advanced Needs 76 - available on Xbox (Beth.net) and PC (Nexus). Will do EVERYTHING you want in a survival mode, and soooooo much more.

AN76 has damage mult settings but more importantly, it has build in headshot systems, so you can 1 or 2 shot most people and kill them outright.

AN76 completely replaces vanilla survival mode - I coded it from scratch, and as such, it doesnt use the HC_Manager (survival mode) at all. You need to play in Very Easy through Very Hard modes, you cannot use it in "survival mode". But it is a FULL fledged survival mode. Eating/Sleeping/Drinking/Diseases. Plus fishing. Chopping trees, scraping cars. Has C.A.M.P., so you can deploy a base ANYWHERE in the game. Massive hygiene systems. Everything is 100% toggleable - you choose how "survival" you want the mode to be. 🙂

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58440

Here is a brief look at it from Juicehead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHhLJFPGwzg

[weak coyote]

Search damage modifier... There is a series of them by the same author with different values... I'm guessing the one you'd want is 1x1x,it makes the damage modifier normal difficulty... There is also one that Scales based on difficulty selected.

[steady tundra]

According to posts under each mod these have difficulties due to the fact that Survival actually sets TWO damage multipliers for both incoming and outgoing damage.

Spent a bit digging and testing and I found what I wanted though.

Some clues are here - https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/65qibd/here_are_the_damage_multipliers_for_the_different/?rdt=62720

Unfortunately, it looks like the hidden perk (second multiplier) can't be disabled/removed.

So I did the next best thing. I adjusted the initial difficulty damage modifier to offset the one added by the hidden survival perk.

...and just made it a one-liner in the fallout4.ini

So this command under the {General} section is all you need to nullify Survival Mode's enemy damage increase and damage nerf on you -

sStartingConsoleCommand="SetGS fDiffMultHPbyPCTSV .66;SetGS fDiffMultHPtoPCTSV .5"

(not sure if it'll take 3 decimal points. More precise would be .666 or .6666)

[steady tundra]

This looks pretty amazing. Thanks!

[pure sigil]

The mod doesn't break pre-combines 😂 That's caused by the user irresponsibly scrapping willy nilly and not knowing what to or what not to scrap. Save often and if issues arrises you can revert.

[mint lodge]

^^^ This.

[mint lodge]

If it sounds interesting, give it a try on a new game, as a test. But be warned, lol... most people who do that, never go back to vanilla survival mode.

[flint nest]

tbh, Bethesda really should make more things scrappable, aint no way people dont know how to use a broom after 200 years living in the wasteland

i can think of several things in Sanctuary alone that should of been scrappable

[steady tundra]

Oh, maybe someone here knows...
According to the in-game console help, the ID for the hidden survival perk is 0000084B. However, I can't see to be able to do anything with it.

I don't have the CK because mine's the GOG version, but I'm guessing there's some flag visible in the CK that makes this perk hidden/non-removable.

Thoughts...?

[mint lodge]

No, thats not the thing.

Perks that dont have a "name", as you would see them in your Pipboy list, cannot be accessed via the console directly in some cases.

[heady flare]

Hey, I recently got fallout 4 and I’m wondering if anyone knows anything about starlight drive in not working. I’m trying to complete the quest but I can’t enter workshop mode anywhere on the lot.

[flint nest]

have you killed all the mole rats? and if so, have you found the red workbench?

[heady flare]

Yes, I’ve killed all of them. I don’t think so. I’ll have to look around more carefully

[flint nest]

its in a metal shed by the hill

[heady flare]

Okay thanks!

[mint lodge]

https://imgur.com/ubyk1Hu
As you can see, no name and its flagged as HIDDEN, though the hidden flag doesnt always mean you cannot access it - its just what hides it from the list in the Pipboy.

In my experience modding the game for many years, its the lack of a name that is tripping you up.

Have you tried removing the perk by using its formID?

Player.RemovePerk 0000084D

That is the only thing you will be able to do with it.

However... there are actor values associated to the perk, that govern incoming and outgoing mults.
You can likely get at them. But you will need to reset them EVERY TIME you load a saved game - they will not remain fixed in your save file.

HC_OutgoingDamageMult <--- this one governs outgoing damage mult```

Honestly, you are much better off ditching vanilla survival mode and going with Advanced Needs like hundreds of thousands other people do.

[steady tundra]

I tried modifying the HC_IncomingDamageMult (and outgoing) no dice.

[mint lodge]

With it, you can adjust outgoing and incoming damage mults with sliders in the MCM.

[steady tundra]

Ahhh, ok. Cool.
Question for you. If I wanted to mimic as close to the built-in Survival as possible, with your mod, what settings would be enabled and disabled?

Also, does your handle hunger by weight or caps?

[mint lodge]

In Advanced Needs? Eating drinking sleeping and diseases. And then alter your damage mults. And yes, you can choose food to have weighting.

As in, some foods satisfy hunger more than others.

Honestly, there are about 100 or so different things you can customize it with, and I dont remember them all

[steady tundra]

lol. No worries. I'll check it out.

[mint lodge]

Your game will become a lot easier AND better with it, than without. 🙂

[ruby stirrup]

I have a problem, the institue quest where i need to go to my apartment isnt working, im going in to the room but it dosnt work, any one knows what to do?

[lilac saffron]

I wonder if the update will fix quest bugs

On all platforms

[lilac saffron]

Maybe a new dlc

[weak coyote]

Must not be the scrap everything mod I've seen then,The description says it breaks pre combines... I used it in the past and the framerate issues and crashes were constant.

[maiden kernel]

the nuka world dlc. when i get to the bit where they want to expand into the common wealth do you end up doing harm to the rest of your play through. i couldn't proceed for fear of ruining my commonwealth rep

[strange slate]

Yes, you will raid your commonwealth settlements

Preston Garvey will hate you, until another settlement needs your help, here I’ll mark it on your map.

[lilac saffron]

I have a feeling our boy Preston will show up in Starfield reminding us that a settlement still needs our help and we should return to the commonwealth immediately.

[vapid mountain]

I clocked in close to 160 hours and I'm on my second playthrough WITHOUT touching the DLCs

[steady tundra]

I'm really liking it so far. Still at the very beginning of the game though.

With almost (over?) 2000 hours into Skyrim, I can see a good chuck of the next couple years abducted by Fallout 4! 😆

[young fjord]

Hey does anyone know if creation club weaponry enter the legendary drop pool, like if I kill a legendary deathclaw do I run the chance of getting a instigating prototype Gauss rifle or an explosive handmade shotgun for example? If anyone knows the answer that’d be great

[sturdy viper]

Google knows.

[pure sigil]

They are unique items not tagged as legendary.

[fleet schooner]

just download mod and raid Nuka World with Minutemen

[shy cargo]

Anyone know if 5 is on the way?

[mint lodge]

5? As in Fallout 5? If so, yes... around 2033 or so. Starfield will occupy the team for a good couple of years, while the pre-prod team works on TES6. Once that's out, in maybe 5-6 years from now, FO5 will take another 4-5 years. So, you're looking, roughly, at 2033 at the soonest.

[humble wasp]

Hello

[humble wasp]

Jesus I'll probably have a family by then

[mint lodge]

Birth control. Spare yourself the anguish. 😄

[humble wasp]

Good idea 😂

I used to play Fallout 4 on PS but I got a Xbox series s a few days ago and oh my the mods are so much better

And the game runs so much smoother

[flint nest]

if you think the mods on Xbox series are better, wait until you see how many mods are on PC

[lilac saffron]

Update when are you coming

[flint nest]

shame that alot of people dont port their mods to Xbox (and PS if they can), but i get why, all the hassle of trying to make sure it works, or to find someone who can port it for you as well as test it, all the rude people going "PoRt To CoNsOlE pLs!!!!", the space limit, the input restrictions, no console commands, no F4SE

[humble wasp]

I have a friend who plays it on PC
His game literally looks like what Fallout 5 should be

He made it so ghouls are replaced by zombies

Got full tactical gear
Vehicles
Like wtf I can barely recognise it

[fleet schooner]

that's either Ghoul Variant or Fallevil Zombies

[mint lodge]

Be wary of the area around Fanueil Hall, between Haymarket Mall and Goodneighbor. It is a known death zone for Series S and X... something in those cells causes the game to crash for pretty much anyone playing on that platform (google it, you will find thousands of results). Hoping the next-gen patch fixes it.

fallout 4 faneuil hall series s
Use that as a google search. You'll see. 🙂

[humble wasp]

Now that you've told me not to go there I'm going to go there

[mint lodge]

Save before you do so you dont lose anything, lol.

[humble wasp]

Thanks for letting me know tho
Knowing me I'd end up losing everything

[mint lodge]

In all honesty, as a rather "big" mod author for FO4, I test A LOT with my mods to ensure they work well on xbox. And on Series S/X, I have only gotten this area to NOT crash exactly 1 time out of 25 tests. Both with and without mods. Its a death zone, no other way to put it.

[young fjord]

No, no it doesn’t.

[torpid galleon]

Isn't that in the Financial District?

Yeah, just checked the notes I wrote. That's one of the two "problem" areas due to a flaw in the master files.

Much like Corvega, that area has like a few thousand more draw calls than expected as a lot of objects are incorrectly tagged and not precombined. I have a mod for that.

[mint lodge]

Xbox compatible? And not a massive download like the PC file PRP pack? We only have 4 gigs for mods on Xbox, so a 2.x gig download would not be good.

[mint lodge]

Yeah, I had the notion to remake the whole area around Fanueil in the CK. I noped out of it the minute I saw how the whole area in a 6 ugrid array was set up. 😄

[torpid galleon]

PRP Lite is a thing and is done per cluster!

Honestly, there's no way I could fit full PRP into the XB1 storage even if the format was supported for uploading.

[mint lodge]

@humble wasp Look in the MODS tool within the game's main menu for "PRP Lite" - download Boston Commons and Financial District ones - these most likely fix the crashing issue (havent tested on XBox, but I know firsthand that PRP is a GODSEND MUST on PC).

[humble wasp]

Will do when I hop on next thank you!

[mint lodge]

Np

Thanks to @torpid galleon mostly though. 😊

[torpid galleon]

salute

Small caveat, the other lite modules won't have that much of an effect on your draw calls aside from Corvega and Financial. If you need the space, don't grab the others.

I really should look into what sort of sacrifice it would take to get those major fixes merged upstream, though.

Maybe sacrifice an entire turkey?

[fleet schooner]

on PC around Boston Common lags hard

[mint lodge]

I run PRP on PC, so I dont have these kinds of issues. 🙂 You should too.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46403

[fleet schooner]

I was never able to achieve maximum optimization for fallout

even with 4GB patch, Buffout, Unof Patch, PRP, Shadow Boost, everything still lags

[mint lodge]

Well, I can tell you that on Series S/X, Corvega is smooth. Even Boston Commons, around Swan's Pond is smooth.
In hundreds of hours of playing on Series S/X, the ONLY place I ever had frame drops and crashes was in the Fanueil Hall area. Sometimes crossing the bridge over the Charles, coming from Bunker Hill, the minute Faneuil and Haymarkey Mall load into memory, hard lock or crash to dashboard. Same for when coming from Goodneighbor, into the Old Corner Bookstore - the minute Faneuil and Haymarket load, hard lock or crash to dashboard.

[mint lodge]

Weird. Im usually a solid 50 in swans pond/boston commons area. 3080 though, if that makes a difference compared to your setup.

[fleet schooner]

oh that's why, I am 1660

[lilac saffron]

4gb patch? FO4 is a 64bit game that uses 8gb by default.

[fleet schooner]

I mean the Memory Extender

[mint lodge]

Some folks are console users and dont know about Baka Scrap Heap or the script memory extenders.
One of the reasons I dont envy folks who are console only players. F4SE would save all of their lives, lol.

[fleet schooner]

F4SE is a blessing and a curse at the same time imo

[mint lodge]

The constant updating of mods when a new build comes out is a definite curse, lol.

[fleet schooner]

I mean usually the thing that causes you to crash the most is F4Se itself

[lilac saffron]

⬆️ Reason why I stopped using it.

[fleet schooner]

that's why Baka scrapheap kind come in same with Buffout

[vague basin]

So long as you have F4SE set up to load properly, you'll never know it's there. By itself it does nothing. It's there to provide the gateway for scripts and dlls that make uses of it. THOSE are what can cause crash issues if they're built for the wrong version of the game.

[fleet schooner]

one thing I found funny is that if you mark a plug in as ESL, the game straight up ignore it in term of plugin limit

[azure viper]

Man...
I can't wait until they release the pipboy version of Skyrim

[fleet schooner]

I wanna try to recreate modern era weapons in Fallout lore-friendly style but I can't texture

[azure viper]

This would be dope.

The weapons from NV were done very well imo

[fleet schooner]

Im still disturbed by the fact that Ar15 doesn't look Ar15 in NV

[azure viper]

I do hate the side charging handle

[fleet schooner]

but tbh Service Rifle weapon mod does not leave my FO4 load order

[azure viper]

I used to use painter's, until SREP came to xbox. Unfortunately I'm a console dweeb for now

But painter did very well with the hodge podge raider versions. And the uniques... that gauss version was nutzo

[fleet schooner]

I am waiting for Dak's Weapon Mod Expansion pack

[azure viper]

He's got some cool stuff too
His anims for the assault rifle that's actually an LMG work well.
He realized that it has both a carry handle, and a charging handle

[fleet schooner]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/71131 this is currently my most favorite mod

[chilly mirage]

hi :D!

[ionic falcon]

hello

[simple ginkgo]

Hey

[jaunty river]

Making Kramvh's Tooth for a school project B]

[simple ginkgo]

Nice

[jaunty river]

Will keep updated to the best of my ability

[frosty pumice]

What’s your favorite FOV in fo4?

[fickle pine]

how does FO4 compare to new vegas? I enjoyed playing NV in the past and picked up FO4 on some sale a while ago, tried the beginning and just couldn't really get into it. The story didn't feel that compelling, I was some random suburban parent that woke up 200 years later and 5 minutes later I was suddenly in one of those suits shooting up a deathclaw

and it felt colorful, wasn't really feeling like exploring the wasteland and the grimy feeling of NV, does it get better?

[weak coyote]

Make your own story on why your doing what your doing

Ignore the main story, try to survive doing side stuff, building up a settlement, etc..

Play on survival

[flint nest]

Yea that deathclaw fight wasnt the best idea

[fickle pine]

so does it have compelling and interesting locations to explore like some of the other fallouts

funny\quirky stuff? just wondering if i need to give it more of a chance despite it leaving a sour taste in my mouth in the opening

[tame spruce]

I accidentally clicked fallout 4 but gross worse fallout to exist 2/10 game

[wary pivot]

D:

Apparently Fallout Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel do not exist

[wary pivot]

IMO, the game gets way better if you ignore the main quest and do your own thing

The DLCs have some crazy storylines, especially Far Harbor

[wary pivot]

Yeah, it's definitely worth the time

The map is huge and has some interesting locations filled with lore

[fickle pine]

ok thanks maybe i just need to give it more of a chance

[wary pivot]

Yeah actually the same happened to me at the beginning, I wasn't really sold on the main quest, but then I discovered all of the other mechanics and completely forgot about it for like 40 hours

[fickle pine]

ya i mosty just like to scrounge around salvaging and selling stuff and exploring and ignoring main quest in new vegas

so if i can do that then its good

[wary pivot]

Well, let me tell ya Fallout 4 does that even better IMO

You can even start your own factory with production lines

Settle supply lines between your settlements

[fickle pine]

ok thanks for the info

[wary pivot]

It's like if Fallout and The Sims had a child lol

[fickle pine]

ic lol

[wary pivot]

But yeah, I agree on the fact that what made Fallout 4 so weak was the writing and the plot, cuz that's exactly what made NV so memorable in the first place

[crisp mirage]

So much good side content in 4

[wary pivot]

Indeed

It's the largest Fallout game

It also saves a special place on my heart too, I went on release day to get on queue at the store with my uncle and cousin

it was also the first BGS game that came in my languague for my country so that is extra points in my book

[flint nest]

I think you mean Fallout 76

[tame spruce]

best games in order f1 f2 fnv fallout tactics fallout 76 fallout 3 fallout shelter fallout 4

[flint nest]

Nahh, Fallout 76 is below 4, same with Shelter

[wary pivot]

ayo Shelter is a banger dawg

what I play when I take a dump lol

[flint nest]

It could be for you, but just not my type of game

[tame spruce]

i have 300 hours on shelter

[fickle pine]

seems like a pointless comparison when its a completely different type of game, like you say just doesnt appeal to some people

(like me, i dont play mobile games)

[tame spruce]

i play it on steam

[flint nest]

I don't care for mobile games either, but i also don't really care for those type of games

[tame spruce]

in my conclusion fallout 4 had the worse story out of all the games fallout 1 and nv had best story

[wary pivot]

well Fallout 4 having the weakest plot is something we all can agree on lol

but i've always said that Fallout 4 as a GAME itself is the best of them all by far

but as a story is pretty mid

[tame spruce]

joshua graham is my boy in both fallouts

[flint nest]

Ive never played 1, 2 or tactics so i cant comment on those, tried to play NV but didnt get far, Fallout 76 i have over 2k hours in and am over level 1200 but the story still feels like crap, Fallout 4, while not the best story indeed, it still ranks higher than 76 for me, and Fallout 3 i enjoyed alot, its the Fallout that got me to try and complete 4, and play 76

[fickle pine]

sheesh you've missed out on playing the 3 best fallout games? :\

[tame spruce]

people hate on 76 but imo it doesnt need a story just side quests and events it doesnt need a story its made to be played w people not alone

fnv dlcs are what makes it good

n people push away from the first 2 fallouts cause “its hard” or “its 2d”

[wary pivot]

oh yeah the NV DLCs are fantastic

[fickle pine]

yeah its a different type of game and probabloy hard to get into for people who didnt play them back in the day but i would say the original 2 are still the best \ definitive fallout games

just wondering from someone who has played a lot of fallout76, how much money do you think you have spent on that game at so many hours? isnt it full of microtransactions?

[tame spruce]

you can get atoms for free

you dont need to spend money

[flint nest]

the side quests and events are what i dislike most about 76, i hate repeating it over and over and over, while yea some events are fun and i have met very great friends on 76, even one who sent me a computer when my old one died, the events and quests/dailies are repetitive

with NV the map kinda looked small and sparsely populated to me compared to Fo3, not to mention i got murked by a deathclaw not too long after starting, always ment to go back and try again but never got around to it

and if the DLC are what makes NV good then ill have to get them before i try NV again

[tame spruce]

fnv w all dlc is 10 usd rn i think

[tame spruce]

everyonline game is repetitive

[flint nest]

indeed

[tame spruce]

eso cod battlefield

i havent found one game that isn’t repetitive

[simple ginkgo]

fallout 4

[scarlet sky]

anyone who says that prob doesn't play many genres of games

[tame spruce]

im talking about online games

[scarlet sky]

eh alright i'll give ya that one

[tame spruce]

actually metal gear survive isnt as repetitive

[fallow kestrel]

not sure if its my Xbox but man its hard that Series X takes forever for disk to download

[lilac saffron]

What's your internet download speed?

[fallow kestrel]

its not that it just keeps stoping and starting at 48% currently

[lilac saffron]

Ethernet connection or wireless?

[fallow kestrel]

Wireless

[lilac saffron]

That's why. The wireless connection for both the Xbox and Playstation consoles lack a lot to be desired.

Ethernet is your best option.

[fleet schooner]

noooo.... 10mm Fallout 4 pistol prop is 100 something dollah 😭

[weak coyote]

There is repetitive... And then there is a game that while having the same thing repeated, it's mixed with other stuff in between so your not just doing the same thing in a row.

[flint nest]

^

Why Fallout 4 is ranked higher than 76 for me, it can take days, probably even weeks to complete, different playthroughs, more bigger outcomes, not to mention a whole lotta mods to install incase you get bored of the main game

[hasty canopy]

question for vanilla, is there a better named rifle than the overseers guardian dps wise?

[flint nest]

Are you looking for a uniquely named weapon only?

[gleaming moon]

escape from tarkov

[simple ginkgo]

nice

[tame spruce]

wrong its repetitive thats why i quit playing it a week after wipe cause i hit level 45 too quick

[gleaming moon]

i dont find the tasks repetitive at all personally

except for maybe the gunsmith ones

[strange slate]

They sound just like a generic white man or woman, it’s kinda creepy

I thought Nora was better than Nate but that’s probably because “ooo women voice”

[strange slate]

“ooo bad roleplaying decisions”

Pretty sure if you play Nate, he gets to say “War never changes”, at Fraternal Post 115

[strange slate]

So clearly Nate is the better character to play

[strange slate]

If you go up to the mic, I am not completely sure though as my mind is kinda hazy and I have heard nobody else mention he can do this

Despite that, I distinctly remember being able to activate the mic at the stage

[distant sedge]

I think both Brian and Courtenay did an equally great job at depicting "40yo-ish 50s Picket Fences Suburbia Mom/Dad" voice. That being said, I personally abhor that character concept as a whole, so I like Nora's voice better since hers is the least difficult to make fit for other character ideas out of the two.

[pliant comet]

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

[lilac saffron]

Actually he never got the chance to say that at Post 115, listen closely to what Nora says and you'll realize he was just practicing the speech he was going to say in front of the mirror.

[distant sedge]

You can actually go there (post-War, of course) and activate the (broken) microphone and Nate says the line.

[lilac saffron]

Yeah I know it slipped my mind until you mentioned it.

[simple ginkgo]

yah

[flint nest]

I love watching brotherhood and something else fight cause sometimes it results in me getting a free suit of PA

[twin geyser]

what is the command to see your inventory?
somethings bugging out and giving me 13 weight when it shouldn't. I put all non quest items away

[viral orbit]

Yo what’s the name of the jacket the leader of the brotherhood wears?

[lilac saffron]

Believe it or not it's simply called Maxson's battlecoat. But if you mean by some type of brand name there probably isn't one as it's custom made.

[viral orbit]

Nah just wanted in-game name. Thanks 👍

[strange slate]

Yes, I’m not that dumb to forget the first line of the game

[proven hare]

Hi, first time in this discord. I've just started playing fallout 4 again and I cant leave vault 111. I have never had this problem before and I've tried multiple ways to solve this issue. Sadly nothing is working. I've tried multiple saves, relogging to just after leaving the cryopod and taking my time getting to the door. Any suggestions?

I'm on ps5 and I dont have any mods on.

[void hound]

Do you have to be outside of a settlement for fertilizer to be produced properly?

[strange slate]

Why are there only 5 actually good side quests in Fallout 4

Secret of Cabot House
The Silver Shrould
The Last Voyage of the USS Constitution
The Big Dig
Human Error

[strange slate]

All the other side quests in Fallout 4, don’t have alot of nuance. They may be interesting like Devil’s Due and Here There Be Monsters but the five listed above have twists and acts.

[lilac saffron]

Hey I need some quick advice

I'm fixing up my problem solver handmade automatic rifle,

The stock. Which is better? The marksman or the light?

[weak coyote]

The female is a better voice actor than the guy, it's a better experience as the female

[proven elm]

"Good" is subjective.

[strange slate]

Those quests have more effort put into them than the rest

That’s why I am categorizing them as good

[glass haven]

Highly disagree. The duder is way better

[flint nest]

I couldnt care less about who voice acts better, its just a game i enjoy

[strange salmon]

i uploaded the castle build on youtubehttps://youtu.be/nUwasp9PL38?si=Z35r7qqaXkDcGANl

[restive violet]

is there a way too reset your perks on pc? i wanna do a kinda like sniper pistol build that does good damage but still has perks like local leader or amorer or gunnut and also if i don’t wanna use a sniper i could use something like a shotgun?

[flint nest]

https://youtu.be/y-JSxc6ys9s?si=9cWNJgN5eFBSHJOg this is how to do it with console

there are mods that allow you to edit them in a better way, like a craftable chem that when taken resets all perks, or Cheat Terminal, but idk if you want to play with mods

[strange slate]

Both suck at emotion

[strange slate]

“Where is shawn, where is my son”

Yes but I really dislike how he says it

[weak coyote]

Anyone know of a mod that makes the sanctuary red rocket a completely empty settlement, that removes everything so you have a blank slate?

[strange slate]

“I am God, destroyer of settlements”

[distant sedge]

If you mean with everything that can be scrapped already pre-scrapped, just use the "scrapall" console command if you're on PC.

If you mean a full blank slate with just a flat stretch of dirt and nothing on it, ouch owie oof my precombines and also I don't recall seeing any such mod at all.

[floral crater]

I had a saved game at level 8 and I created a new save game for mods on xbox and now I try to go to my level 8 save its not there

[pure sigil]

The nearest you will get is Clean and Simple Red Rocket settlement blueprint. Never having used it myself I can't vouch for it so make a save before install and use.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44889

[lilac saffron]

By atom where is next gen update

[weak coyote]

I'm looking for a mod that makes red rocket near sanctuary a completely empty patch of land.
Preferably a Playstation version, but if it's only on other platforms I can contact the mod author and ask for a Playstation version uploaded, have had luck with request to mod authors over the years, most recently got the author of "Basic Companions Helper" to do a few updates, recently added teammates power armor takes no damage options.
Most mod authors I've spoke with are very helpful, some like the challenge of creating mods for Playstation because of the limitations, they are forced to get creative.

[silver pewter]

good afternoon, anybody around here able to work out why my f4 keeps constantly crashing?

[proven elm]

The best place to ask mod questions is in #fallout-4-mods or #1067505929534320700

[potent cove]

Ik this isn’t a support chat but I already submitted something into it and eagerly waiting on a solution but if anyone here plays on XBsX and knows how to fix dialog issues please lmk it’d be a huge help!

For fallout 4^

[weak coyote]

It's common with Bethesda games... You just learn to deal with it.

[lilac saffron]

If you are on the PC and using a Nvidia graphics card after the launcher loads up go into Options>Advanced and turn off Weapon Debris. But if you have a Radeon graphics or are on the console dunno, other than check for mod conflicts if you're using any. And if you are on the console which one?

[wary pivot]

Embrace Creation Engine

[slim rune]

I'd be happy with more mod space. You can make it relatively stable. If you dedicate about 700mb just to stability mods. (On Xbox of course)

Heard something about having to reinstall to get more mod space. And that's not a big deal at all. Not in the slightest.

[lilac saffron]

They have stated several times they will not increase mod space. Limitations are there for a reason.

[slim rune]

Whatever reason. It's a dumb one. When your game requires half the mod space to function. That's not our fault.

[lilac saffron]

And the game doesn't need half the mod space to function, in fact in doesn't mod space at all. It's your choice to do that.

[slim rune]

Excuse me, 1/3. And it does if you wanna visit downtown. At least on Xbox.

[lilac saffron]

I play on the PC, Xbox and Playstation never really had much problem with Downtown as I never linger around there for too long. I do what I need to do and leave.

And I usually restart my Xbox or Playstation once I get there.

[slim rune]

So you admit it's a problem area. Thanks. Now we can address the issue. And the fix. Which is more mod space.

Or an optimization pass.

[lilac saffron]

That's why a Next Gen update is supposed to drop sometime before the end of year.

[slim rune]

Tbh if it doesn't come with at least the same mod space as Skyrim it's a wasted effort.

[strange slate]

They are certainly taking their time

[lilac saffron]

There is 4 months before the year ends. Rather they take their time with it than rush it.

[slim rune]

I was hoping it would be out already. To fill the gap leading up to Starfield. But oh well.

[lilac saffron]

That's a matter of option fixing Downtown on the consoles > mod space. To me anyway. The precombine system made FO4 a more ambitious game than Skyrim and more demanding in terms of computing resources.

[slim rune]

I wish we could just delete unnecessary parts of Boston. The city is impressive no doubt. But it's a killer. Eats up resources like a fat kid eats cake.

[lilac saffron]

The older consoles should get the optimization improvements but not the graphic improvements.

[lilac saffron]

And break everyone else's saves in the process. You might be fine with starting over but the majority would not be. And breaking saves was one of the main reasons they won't add more mod space they already tried it in a test environment.

[vague basin]

More mod space isn't going to fix the performance issues in Boston or anywhere else. That kind of thing has to be fixed at the code level, which is Bethesda's domain.

[slim rune]

Where can I opt into that? The sanity servers.

[lilac saffron]

Don't think you can at least not directly.

[slim rune]

Go buy a series S. You will 100% change your mind about that. I guarantee it.

[vague basin]

Buying a console isn't going to change the technical facts of the matter. More mod space won't help no matter what platform you're on since mods can't resolve the kinds of issues you're talking about.

[lilac saffron]

I have a Series X and PS 5 and I stick to what I have said.

[slim rune]

Try it on a series S. Even if you have to borrow one.

[lilac saffron]

No thanks a friend of mine has one and FO4 still runs better on the Series X and PS 5.

They have more resources at there disposal, to offset the performance issues.

[slim rune]

Well no kidding. It's better hardware. Somehow, and I can't explain it, 4 runs worse on the S than it did on my original Xbox One.

[lilac saffron]

Xbox One X by any chance?

[slim rune]

OG. 1st gen Xbone. Bought used from GameStop.

[lilac saffron]

IIRC correctly the Xbox One's OS used less memory so that would explain it. As the less memory the OS uses the more memory the games can use and FO4's main problem is running out of memory. And that consoles can't really purge unused cached memory that well.

[slim rune]

Try it on a series S. Even if you have to borrow one.

[lilac saffron]

You sound like a broken record. The problems with the game are code related.

And to get really technical the more mods you add the faster the game runs of out memory. So more mod space to add more mods would in fact exacerbate the problem.

[civic hollow]

Sadly with the release of starfield, I don’t think it’s going to be coming any time soon.

[lilac saffron]

There is till 4 months till the end of the year.

[civic hollow]

Yes but I imagine then most of the resources will then go towards the Dlc Shattered space (and any others yet to be announced, they did say they would make a lot of content for Starfield) and then also ES6 starting production.

[lilac saffron]

You don't need a full team to do DLC and isn't ES6 supposed to go into development/production at the beginning of next year.

[flint nest]

I say that after Starfield releases, there'll probably be a couple weeks or so where they're mostly focused on monitoring it, fixing any bugs and crashes that crop up since it'll be being played by thousands more players than when it was beta tested, then they'll move on to Fo4

We've heard about the update at the end of 2022, so its obviously have work being done on it since then, all the CC stuff is probably left over from way back when stuff got halted

The bugs being fixed are probably high priority ones, crashes, lag, freezes, anything that would be encountered often and then some medium priority ones

[simple ginkgo]

well it might not happen my dudes and dudeites

[lilac saffron]

I'm just going to start putting the whiners on the ignore list.

[simple ginkgo]

who me?

[flint nest]

Its coming, theres still 4 months left, at the latest it'll be at the end of December

[vague basin]

Even if it isn't going to end up being this year, they'll tell us if there's a delay.

[lilac saffron]

If I was talking about you I would've quoted you.

[simple ginkgo]

so yes me then

[lilac saffron]

Let me be more clear no not you. As I didn't quote you with my original message.

[simple ginkgo]

ah ok i still think it happen but maby next year

cuz star field coming out in like week now so maby they will relases next year

[lilac saffron]

Nah, I'm thinking it's possibly around Halloween like it was in game during the Prologue.

Which was also around the time they announced it last year.

[simple ginkgo]

yeah but you gota rember they got plan for dlc for star field and maby some patches if any thing goes shakey with the game

[lilac saffron]

Don't need a full team for DLC's

[flint nest]

Once again, theres still 4 more months left, we are getting bug fixes, cc content, and iirc a FPS boost, most, if not all of the CC content is already made, and Bethesda staff doesnt all work on just 1 game, not to mention multiple studios, so they've probably been working on it since last year, probably before announcing it as most game companies do when making games or DLC

[simple ginkgo]

i mean its more about planing and stuff like that

plus our lord and savior todd howard had to give the project the green light

[flint nest]

Dont need a team at all, most of the CC content is player made, Bethesda just buys the rights to it or something, stuff like Pipboy and PA skins are made by them probably, but bigger stuff is community made

[simple ginkgo]

i thought they the other stedious not coming out till next year?

[lilac saffron]

That was in response to someone talking about Starfield DLC.

[flint nest]

Ah

[simple ginkgo]

ah

so you guys think it coming out in oct?

[lilac saffron]

I don't know how Bethesda does it but some companies use interns for DLC under the guidance of experienced professionals to help get experience and "get their feet wet".

[flint nest]

i think its coming out sometime in the 4 months remaining

[simple ginkgo]

maby oct or nov

cuz that like the free days

but dec going to be hard on every one tho

[flint nest]

December is Christmas time tho, where people get gifts and gift cards, releasing DLC near or after Christmas is a strat alot of companies do to maximize profits

[lilac saffron]

Not really if all they need to do is just polish the code and want to do the update as Christmas present.

[simple ginkgo]

i mean yeah but you gota rember its going to be hard cuz you gota buy presents and stuff like that for kids and relatives stuff like that but its a free udate sure that makes sense or hell go all out and do like they did with skyrim and makes a special eddition

[simple ginkgo]

that also true

[lilac saffron]

I don't think we'll see anything like a Anniversary Edition for FO4 as it's only the 8th year mark.

[simple ginkgo]

really 8 years jeez i feel old XD

i rember geting it on my ps4 like what 2014 or 15

[lilac saffron]

Skyrim is 12 yrs

[simple ginkgo]

oh dear god i am old

[lilac saffron]

I still have my old Atari 2600.

[simple ginkgo]

lol i still have my 360 and ps3

[lilac saffron]

I was in high school at the time I got my 2600.

[simple ginkgo]

nice

[flint nest]

i have my 360 somewhere, i think, but ik for sure i got my PS3, also got a Ps1 and a PS2 Fat and Slim

[simple ginkgo]

i use to have a ps1 but its gone now

still have my ps2

[lilac saffron]

I still remember the Magnavox Odyssey way back in 1972.

[simple ginkgo]

cool

[lilac saffron]

Damn I'm old.

[simple ginkgo]

lol welcome to the club

[gleaming moon]

Yeah I feel ancient nowadays.

[lilac saffron]

Only 2 years left tell retirement.

[gleaming moon]

Nice, wish you the best with that.

[simple ginkgo]

nice

[lilac saffron]

My brother has 20 yrs to go.....how did that happen.

Oh right forgot dad was a horndog.

[simple ginkgo]

lol

[lilac saffron]

When’s this next gen update supposed to get here

[fallow wyvern]

In 2023. We know nothing more. It would be really cool if the update included FSR2+ and other thechnologies to modernize experience.

[strange slate]

@brave wadi I am gonna respond with my main point, Emil barely cared about the main quest like at all. He thought people wouldn't care for the main quest because exploration which is a terrible reason but he was so wrong.

The Brotherhood has literally been decapitated in this game, they are literally terrorists in power armor, they kill whoever and they steal whatever fuels their power.

They are so distant from the good guy Brotherhood in Fallout 3, it's the biggest example of faction assasination, I have ever seen.

Also did you say the NV story is worse than 4... have you played NV, I would really like to know

[brave wadi]

I would disagreeon some. The brotherhood being unlikeable I like, because they were too much of the classic heroic fantasy knights in previous games. In fallout4 all factions are unlikeable to some extent which I find realistic

fallout 4 is the first beth game where you could find evil and good in all factions. In new vegas the heroes and the villains were predefined.

[strange slate]

Sure, but they aren't that evil, in every game, they are good or morally ambiguous. The Eastern Brotherhood is literally the most terroristic faction in the Commonwealth, they are basically evil for evil's sake

Speaking of that, the Institute and the Brotherhood are both evil for evil's sake, both of their goals are so contradictory and convuluated, that it makes only one viable faction.

[brave wadi]

I feel the brotherhood was evil and fascist since fallout 1. They wanted to hoard all the old world stuff to have power.

[strange slate]

Do you even know why they did that??? They hoard old world tech because it can cause suffering across the wasteland in the hands of the wrong people.

[brave wadi]

do you see how shallow that reasoning is? "I need to have all the power to keep the world safe" In fallout 4 the world is a raw struggle for power with only a mask of pretention. Which is more realistic

[strange slate]

"power for power's sake" what a great goal for such a nuanced faction

Something tells me you barely know about the Brotherhood except for in Fallout 4 and just think they are another evil faction which they aren't

Maxson is one of the most moronic characters I have ever seen in a Fallout game, he literally flips Danse right off when he is revealed as a synth, even after everything Danse did

[tropic pilot]

i mean to be fair is this not just, like, plot progression? i would say that it's not a retcon so much as it is just following the plot hooks provided by FO3 right? in FO3 the Brotherhood was tearing themselves apart because Lyons was considered too nice to the people in the Wasteland, hence the Outcasts (being far more hostile and bent on their fundamental mission than being 'good guys') being excommunicated from the main faction... because even in FO3 we learn that many of the Brotherhood soldiers in the ranks are actually pretty terrible people; Madison Li doesnt trust them at all, plenty soldiers are apparently racist and take regular potshots at the ghouls in Underworld, the simple fact that Ashur became a slaver from the same ideology the BOS had, etc... to me it seems that Owyn & Sarah Lyons and maybe a couple others are the glue that made these people 'good' in the first place, but as we know... well they die!

i always saw the BOS as they are in FO4 as being a result of essentially that -- lyons dying, and maxson becoming the elder. he became the elder as a teenager! and then he re-integrated the -- as i mentioned hostile, unsympathetic -- outcasts back into the BOS! and clearly the main BOS wasn't even all that nice to begin with, just sufficiently nice enough that they werent made outcasts. i see it as a domino effect where maxson is this malleable, maybe somewhat traumatized teenager, getting influenced and puppeteered by his new friends who are all angry, vindictive, violent people so he grows up this way. then the people who join the faction afterwards are people who are attracted to this sort of thing and its all downhill from there

im not really adversarily debating u btw, im just sharing my perspective since i think it makes sense, but idk? 😅

mind that i havent played fo 1 and 2 so if im missing any context it is in there

[strange slate]

This is most likely the truth, pretty sure it is confirmed to be true, even besides this, the Brotherhood is still not morally ambiguous.

They ask you to force or convince Commonwealth farmers to give them food, this is not any different than raiding. This is even mentioned by Gage in Nuka-World, farmers are literally starving from Gunners and raider groups and the Brotherhood leaves them to starve. They are clearly scared or unwilling, but are forced as anyway to gain resources is allowed by the Brotherhood.

This is incredibly hypocritical to how the Brotherhood say they are here to help

They don't care if you send the minutemen into battle against the Institute, they care about their success in the region and rule. It is feudalism.

[tropic pilot]

oh well yeah! if caracal meant that the BOS is morally ambiguous in FO4 then i wouldnt really agree with that, i absolutely see them as being an unrepentant villainous faction in FO4, i guess i was just saying i don't see it as an issue really

like it makes sense why that happened given the circumstances so i just see it as just like, plot and character development, their original visions have been compromised, like to me thats the point of it rather

[strange slate]

He's saying that he likes that they aren't a morally ambiguous faction when they always have been (except F3). He literally wants them to be another evil faction than to be a nuanced and morally ambiguous faction. I find that ridiculous.

[warm sparrow]

In terms of writing, I take more issue with the Institute, since their goal is way more ambiguous and poorly defined. They want to essentially upgrade humanity, have apparently made some new synths immune to radiation but then also, they insist on the policy of treating synths as inferior to humans.

[tropic pilot]

it was striking to me when id finally played both 4 & 3 that the Enclave and BOS show up in the exact same way at the exact same time (about midway through, intimidatingly and hostilely with a fleet of vertibirds) so it felt quite poetic, as if it was saying "now they're just as evil, they became worse" -- idk if thats on purpose but i thought that'd be kinda neat

[strange slate]

I would've gone after the Institute earlier, but caracel isn't really here.

[north needle]

institute is by far the worst writen faction in fo4. feels extremely rushed

[tropic pilot]

ah i see? well that is a little bit odd then yeah haha, it seemed like you took issue with the BOS because of their evil actions so i just wanted to defend that specifically through a writing lens is all

[north needle]

wich is sad i think it had the potential to be a great written faction

[strange slate]

They could have acted like a bad faction with good arguments like Caesar's Legion but it wasn't meant to be

this is why you don't hire someone to write a main story, when they think nobody will care about the main story

[tropic pilot]

it definitely would have helped if there were a character who spelled out everything all at once like Caesar does... i think there's some internal consistency but it's spread over so many things and places that it's hard to really grasp and yeah i suppose it is a flaw if you have to research to understand literally just, the main point of the main villain 😭

note that i said "i think" because im not 100% sure if there IS consistency, i just think, "well maybe?" 💀

[strange slate]

Also I think he said Fallout 4 has better quests than NV or good quests at all

there are like only 5 redeemable side quests in Fallout 4

[warm sparrow]

I don't know if I'd agree that BoS have always been morally ambiguous either. Even going back to Fallout 1, they've always been tech raiders pretending to be knights. Hell in Fallout New Vegas, their status as tech hoarders is what makes their faction decline and become non-viable in the post-post-apocalyptic setting of the west coast.

[strange slate]

I love these quests, I think the USS Constitution crashing into a skyscraper right after you let it fly and then they congratulate you on their meager success is one of the funniest things in Fallout

[warm sparrow]

BoS wanting to set up a feudal society is just a part of their anachronistic theme imo.

[tropic pilot]

i think thats a fair point yeah

[strange slate]

Well it's that the Mojave Chapter didn't adept, one of the messages in NV is adaption

Not necessarily they hoarded all the tech for themselves but that they never adapated, then the NCR beat them to Hidden Valley and now they are even more isolationist and traditionalist

It is quite similar to the Boomers

[warm sparrow]

I'm aware. I was just pointing out that they've always been tech raiders hiding behind a thin veneer of being gallant knights. At the end of the day, they've always been stealing tech from people to ultimately benefit themselves. It's never really been morally ambiguous to me.

[north needle]

in fo4 i feel the enhaced "greedy at any cost" face that bos have is in hand with hand with the institute "new discovered" so advanced technology. Like the whole point was preventing missuse of technology as with the boms, and then there is just a worst than bombs technology

[strange slate]

" Because new vegas sort of was bad in everything except some quests, while fallout4 had good quests AND good gameplay. people only remember the quests from new vegas because the gameplay systems were primitive." Oh my gosh, I have never heard of a more wrong opinion in my life, this isn't even subjectivity anymore, this is just ridiculous.

[strange slate]

What quests did this guy play in Flalout 4 that were good? The kitty quest, the paint quest, the radient quests, the damn fridge quest?

[warm sparrow]

The Fallout 4 chapter is definitely a lot more radical, for sure. If I recall correctly, there are other chapters that allow ghouls in their ranks, for example.

[strange slate]

Again there are only 5 actually nuanced and well written quests in Fallout 4, 5, 5 damn quests.

[north needle]

ah yes the "discrimination" in fo4 bos for me felt more like only a maxons thing. there is even a quest to help one soldier that is hidding ghouls because he emphatizes with them

[strange slate]

USS Constitution, Cabot House, Human Error, the Big Dig, the Silver Shrould

These quests feel like they have soul in them, the rest feel like hog wash.

[warm sparrow]

To Maxson's credit, he did allow wastelanders to join, which is non-standard for the brotherhood.

[north needle]

like they wanted us to know is mostly a maxons thing

[warm sparrow]

Although I suspect this is more about consolidating power than actually caring about wastelanders

[strange slate]

All 5 have choices, interesting writing, or 2nd acts.

[north needle]

yes i refered specifically ghouls supermutants and synths, aka non humans. to wich we have more than enough proof than none of the are all totally bad

[strange slate]

imagine how much knowledge ghouls and even some supermutants have that could contribute to the Brotherhood

[strange slate]

Ghouls are centuries old and we know smart supermutants exist like Marcus

[north needle]

and what about synths? it made not sense at all for me that their main goal was destroy the factory of this new technology and at the same time you kill it instad of use it? even danse who is totally bos perfect soldier? its like (for me) there is no explanation other than a blind hate from maxon

[strange slate]

Danse isn't a perfect soldier and yes it's just blind racism

[north needle]

no i mean perfect in terms of loyalty to bos etc wich is one of the things they value the most in fo4

[strange slate]

ah ok, yeah it's just ridiculous

I was hoping for some character arc within Maxson's story but nothing happened

[strange slate]

I guess it's in character for someone who has been raised to be a fanatic

[north needle]

however a personal thing i had with the faction writing was railroad (wich is my personal favorite faction) can only destroy the institute, with no other outcome. Why would they destroy the birthplace of something you consider equal to humans (basically)? the most logical step is taking it not destroying it

[strange slate]

They literally made 3 out of the 4 faction endings, the same thing, it's crazy

[north needle]

or rushed, thats what i heard internet said about all the institute related writing

[strange slate]

How didn't they even think of what the 3/4 of the faction endings would be

I mean they had years to develop this game, I am assuming they had to trash their original F4 and recycle stuff. It isn't uncommon for games to make large last minute changes but come on.

[open solar]

What happened to the fallout 4 next gen upgrade?

[sturdy viper]

Nothing.

Is 2023 over yet?

[fresh folio]

The common mindset of "if the Railroad thinks Synths are equals, why don't they keep making more?" is both a misreading and terribly short-sighted

1. The Railroad values Synth life for their thoughts, feelings, and ability to develop mentally, not as a species.

2. Creating more Synths is creating a problem in the literal sense, given the Commonwealth's attitude towards them. Why do that when there's other slaves out there to assist, like in Capital Wasteland?

3. Whether Synths run the Institute or not, nothing really changes. There's still an isolated community with a (greater) disconnection from humanity, who requires resources from the surface to maintain itself.

[open solar]

It's just weird we have heard nothing since they said they was making it?

[fresh folio]

What else is there to say besides "still working on it?"

[open solar]

Literally anything like a release date they did for skyrim which is stupid 🙄

[strange slate]

Because the synth race wouldn’t be able to continue

[strange slate]

There are too few independent synths for reproduction on a high scale level, actually we don’t even know if they can reproduce

[steel hill]

They might have a new title coming out that might have a bigger priority.

[strange slate]

Starfish

[steel hill]

They might not have release date yet...

[strange slate]

It would be a shame for the Railroad to free a species that wouldn’t be able to live on, actually do synths even age?

Plot holes Bethesda, learn to fill them

[fresh folio]

And? There's nothing special about them that warrants their continued production, is my point

They're obsolete the moment you stop using them as tools

[strange slate]

A species would want to continue their existence, synth should’ve been the ones to make the decision if continued production of synth kind was to be administered

[fresh folio]

Look back up at point 3, then look at Acadia — Institute waiting to happen.

In the Railroad ending, it was their choice. They wanted to be free and fought alongside the Railroad to let it happen

[strange slate]

Not to completely destroy the Institute, that decision only makes sense for the minutemen but for the other factions, they would have other reasons to keep the institution functioning

[fresh folio]

That depends on what you see the Railroad as — abolitionist group with a Synth focus, or a Synth group with an abolitionist theme?

It bugs me to have them seen as the latter, to be honest

[strange slate]

If they become useless as tools, well who cares, you could still make more synths

Them no longer being tools doesn’t mean synth production should be destroyed

[strange slate]

Yes they are the former but it still doesn’t justify them destroying the ones and only synth production machines

[fresh folio]

It absolutely does, because then a Synth is essentially no different to a human. So why not just make humans the old fashioned way, without the population issues?

[strange slate]

Make humans the old fashioned way? I don’t follow

You mean synths

Synths are different from humans, they don’t age, they don’t need to sleep (i think), and they don’t have reproductive organs. Synths are incredibly different from humans, the only similarities are mental.

How are these synths going to survive as a species if they can’t continue their population, there will always be a set number of synths unless one dies (which isn’t unlikely).

[strange slate]

Soon enough, these synths would be wiped out as a population and their goals would be for nothing. They are almost like ghouls, except ghouls have a consistent way to reappear.

*Ghouls can’t reproduce

[fresh folio]

That's not the point. Any of these abolitionists just want the slaves to be free and make their own lives; if they made that possible, they already did that part of their job

Don't make me pull out the Metal Gear Solid 2 lines

"Life is more than just passing on your genes"

[fresh folio]

The aging stuff's muddled by ||"Shaun,"|| but I interpret it as being "stagnant" in growth. A synth child can't grow into an adult, but all Synth bodies wear. ||Danse|| and ||McDonough|| were never suspicious with how they looked, and there's no reason ||Magnolia|| would look middle-aged.

The sleeping things disproven multiple times by Acadia & Glory, and only exists because of Binet's hypotheticals

[lilac saffron]

I’ve noticed whenever someone is being replaced it’s always the person acting aggressive and violent is the human and the one who’s trying to de escalate everything and be nice is the synth

So humans and synths aren’t completely mentally similar

[strange slate]

That isn’t because humans are more aggressive but synths are seen as evil machinery of the Institute

[strange slate]

It’s not known if they need sleep to survive like humans do

[strange slate]

I said the synths should make the decision on production, not the Railroad

[north needle]

1. Thanks for the free insult.
2. I think the same of You.
   The "synth" problem is only that because they are being using as tools by the institute so the rest of your arguments Lost sense after that one.

[weak coyote]

Curie, who mentions needing to sleep and eat when in her synth body, to some degree, it appear that synths can still maintain these functions even if not required.

[fervent furnace]

Is there a video to use a nexus mod in cohesion with the bestheda mod

[hollow hinge]

anyone have a weird bug where the game is sped up in every aspect? dialouge and gameplay is like on x200 and i have zero clue how to fix

[flint nest]

That should be due to your FPS, at least one of the reasons, if theres others then idk, did you uncap your framerate?

[copper echo]

Taking over an entire society wouldn’t be feasible for any faction. The Railroad are very few in number; it’s why they need the synths inside the Institute to help. The Brotherhood can’t control an entire society and deal with the external threats caused by the gapping hole now in the ground; an entire populace that would be ideologically opposed to them.

[copper echo]

I think the point is synths aligned with the Railroad or Arcadia simply want their autonomy from the Institute; they’re not looking to thrive as an autonomous A.I.

[north needle]

this is mostly true except that in the suppossed roleplay you are able to be important in both factions so they can claim it not by force but some kind of fusion. They dont need to kill all the scientists and people.

[neat temple]

Man can they stop focusing on fallout 76 and get the new gen on fallout 4

[steel hill]

I'm guessing that they're focusing on Starfield release..

[vague basin]

Pretty sure whichever team is working on 76 isn't the same one responsible for the nextgen update.

[sturdy viper]

⬆️And there is still four months remaining.... sometime in 2023.

[rigid yoke]

i heard the FO4AE was scraped till next year

[sturdy viper]

Even so... is that going to stop the same people from asking every other day?

[sturdy viper]

And it's not an anniversary edition it's just the Fallout 4 Next Gen update

[frigid bloom]

Its kinda wild to remember we're inching closer to 10 years since FO4 though. (AE mention spurred this thought, though I know its not an anniversary thing)

[rigid yoke]

skyrim
skyrim special edition
skyrim anniversary edition
fallout 4
fallout 4 GOTY
fallout 4
you see where im going with this right

[torpid galleon]

In the immortal words of a well known software company: "When it's done."

[sturdy viper]

No, because you're off by 2 years, Fallout 4 released in NOvember 2015.

Next year is only 9 years they're not going to release an anniversary edition 9 years later

[strange slate]

How did you interpret maintaining the synth production and maintaining the entire institute as one in the same, besides they can have synths maintain the institute maybe as their new home a synthphobic world

[strange slate]

Autonomy from the Institute is autonomy from everyone

[rigid yoke]

im going to have to disagree with you on that the BOS and the RR both have reasons to hate and stop the institute

[strange slate]

Doesn’t matter if the institute, BOS, or railroad controls the synthetics, they care about their independence

[strange slate]

You can tell because the rogue synths at the Institute don’t even know the railroad even exists, you have to set up a secret communication network between them. They are wanting independence from basically the entire world to them and to go out into the a dangerous wasteland.

[strange slate]

Institute and institute are different

One’s the organization, the other is the futuristic heaven they inhabit

[rigid yoke]

-_-

and just like that i honestly dont care what you have to say i made my point you attacked the spelling you arguments are invlaid to me have a good day

[strange slate]

That’s because you misunderstood what I meant…

[copper echo]

How, exactly, would a few people who can barely assist synths as it is take total control of an entire society of men, women, children, and Coursers ideologically opposed to them? Synth production is tied to the existence of the Institute - a society of people who view synths as tools. I don’t disagree that the writing for the Institute needed work in many areas (while IMHO the Minutemen barely exist as a faction and have about 4 original quests in total so they are worse off out of all the main factions, not to mention having none of the appeal that groups like the Desert Rangers have) but destroying the Institute makes sense when you consider this is a society of people who, for generations, have been taught that synths are just tools and nothing more. Occupying the Institute isn’t something any of them can reasonably do. And they aren’t in the business of making synths, only protecting existing synths who want to be free.

[north needle]

i mean if they can make the whole society take you as their leader being a couple of days known for them, nothing its a strech. If i am the leader and i like the railroad what stops me to make them work togheter like it or not? writting only stops me

[copper echo]

The machines that make synths are within the Institute. How exactly would that be feasible when synth production is within a society of people who are opposed to everything you stand for? It’s not really a practical situation to take over their production facilities. Nor does anyone express an interest in pursuing this with the sole exception of DiMA, who expresses regret because it’ll mean no more synths.

[copper echo]

Because you would be easily replaced. Same reason your predecessor shut down the cybernetics work out of concern someone might replace him and his synth project with a more favorable and popular project. You don’t have absolute power as Director, and Desdemona even points out the Institute wouldn’t accept this if you broach this very topic with her.

[north needle]

yes because thats the writting they choose

[copper echo]

Fallout has never been a series where you get to put everyone under your thumb.

[copper echo]

They want autonomy from servitude to the Institute. As we see with the society of Arcadia.

[north needle]

i dont want everyone, i want my favorite fallout 4 faction not destroying the institute because there are real reasons to not do it. Lets say im the person in that world and not my character i would put all my hopes for humanity on technology and science. thats just personal. and imo destroying it isnt the ONLY viable way to deal with the institute missuse of synths.

[faint veldt]

I'd like to meet the designer of the gauntlet in nuka world in person, I need to add to my tooth collection.

[copper echo]

It’s a society of people who are ideologically opposed to the Railroad and they aren’t going to view synths as people just because you asked them to. They’ll keep using synths as tools and labor as long as they exist.

[north needle]

As in everything humans does, there is never, never total unification of ideas.

Anyway

[strange slate]

It’s not practical to takeover effective institute tech because it was developed by the institute, the logic doesn’t follow

[frail ravine]

Guys

[rigid yoke]

um im not a guy i am a tank

[frail ravine]

I apologize for the unfortunate inconvenience.

[fleet schooner]

Giant... Roaches?

What the hell?

[frail ravine]

Let’s be real, the institute cannot legally kidnap me if I say no. I’ll take them to court

[tired stirrup]

I genuinely love the 10mm reloading animation.
So smooth.
So iconic...

[fair bone]

Is 2000 water production enough?

[tired stirrup]

I think that was the output of project purity lmao

[fleet schooner]

I love how Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 have items that overcome the necessity of Project Purity

[rigid yoke]

huh

[weak coyote]

Gary!

[copper echo]

Water purifiers existed in Fallout 3 (Walter’s quest is predicated around the one in Megaton) but that doesn’t change that people were still dying of thirst because the populace lived under a capitalist system that meant that you needed to pay for water. Unless you personally give them water, for free, they would have nothing.

[copper echo]

It’s not practical to take over an entire society of men, women, children, and three generations of synths (including Coursers) just because the tech there can be useful.

[flint nest]

Fallout 76 would also make sense that it would have items that are on par with Project Purity, its only about 25yrs after the bombs fell, so theres alot more resources, alot less disrepair, if you find a water pump/purifier chances are its still working or just needs a few parts where as in 3 and 4 you've had more time pass in which weather, animals, and scavengers have gotten to it

[hidden sonnet]

next gen?

[flint nest]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[pure sigil]

Tomorrow..
You know tomorrow never comes, right..
So when it drops you can say it was today.
After that, you can say it was yesterday, but not yet.
Hope that clears things up 🤔

[strange slate]

When did I ever say they needed to take over every single being in the Institute, wipe out the Institute, just maintain the synth production center.

If you do the Railroad or Minutemen nuclear option, the synths are rescued and the scientists resettle into minutemen settlements.

All the railroad needs to do is maintain one center of the building

[copper echo]

Wipe out an entire society of men, women and children, including Coursers, with just one being able to canonically dispatch a building of Gunners on his own, and then deal with maintaining a facility that they don’t want or need? There are so many problems with this I wouldn’t even know where to start to address the numerous issues, especially for smaller groups like the Railroad. It’s easier to deal with a single sector leading to the reactor and then detonate the Institute while giving people the chance to leave.

[copper echo]

Because they aren’t trying to conquer a society. They simply took steps to destroy the housing facilities of the Institute.

[fleet schooner]

Fallout 4 (gameplay lol) produces like 1000 purified water even without mod is possible for me

and Fallout 76 has water coolers that can produce 1000 something purified water in 1 hour

it's a joke and not entire lore-based

[fleet schooner]

I kinda wonder what happened to Vault 79 gold in the time of FO4

[strange slate]

Well it’s either they doom synths to extinction or they are slaves under the institute

[strange slate]

They only care about the existing synths but don’t care for how the synths in the future

[copper echo]

Because making synths isn’t something they care about. Only the Institute cares to do that.

[strange slate]

They care about synths existing presumably

[north needle]

i could agree with all that lobsel is saying since yesterday except the fact that the game itself put you in charge of the institute. Forced or not is not only the railroad, is the railroad+the head of th institute if the head of the institute decides so.
yes i know "they will not accept" but thats, as the rest, speculation, since we dont know in deep the thinking of every single human in institute, plus there is already a revolt in the game and is pacified

[restive violet]

does anyone know why the splattercannon doesn’t have the skin on it? it just looks like a normal handmade it doesn’t have all the colors

[lilac saffron]

Hey I need help

I'm looking for the railroad and all of a sudden my game is crashing. It crashed so I reloaded it. And it's not gonna let me play because it's saying "Mods are currently active. Note Achievements are disabled. Do you wish to continue loading this save?" I don't have any mods downloaded?? The only this I guess count as mods are the creation club stuff but that's Bethesda approved it shouldn't cause any gaming problems. Why is it doing this and is there a way to resolve this?

Hello..? Got awful quiet

[fleet schooner]

did you download mods before

[lilac saffron]

Yeah but I didn't even play I deleted it after it was done downloading and I went to a save before downloading.

And I know it's worked because I've been getting achievements

[fleet schooner]

maybe what could happen was you uninstall it but leaving few files behind so it kinda clash with FO4 files

try to reverify the game or something

[lilac saffron]

Wdym reverify?

[fleet schooner]

Verify Game Integrity

[lilac saffron]

What...?

[fleet schooner]

which is something that everyone usually suggest but never works

[lilac saffron]

So why suggest it!????

[fleet schooner]

oh wait you are on Xbox, I thought you're PC guy

[lilac saffron]

Yeah

[fleet schooner]

well about that idk then

you sure no mods in load order? try to take a look at it

sometimes the Mod Browser unknowingly inject some stupid thing without you knowing

like me last time there's some reasons an AK74M mod without me downloading it and the mod listed as uninstalled but somehow it shows up in load order

[lilac saffron]

I literally just got an achievement yesterday and I got rid of the mod weeks before the achievements

[fleet schooner]

well other than that, Idk much about Xbox

[lilac saffron]

The only mods I technically have are the ones you can buy and install for your game but those are safe mods and it isn't supposed to disable any achievements

They're approved by Bethesda.. OH WAIT THEY MADE THE MODS YOU BUY

[fleet schooner]

and they are kinda suck ngl

[lilac saffron]

Also.. I'm noticing something

How come the BOS soldiers have green uniforms when I have orange?

I see they switched it in 76 but when did they switch for 4??

[fleet schooner]

there's always green version in game

[lilac saffron]

What??

[fleet schooner]

you never knew?

[lilac saffron]

How come I can't buy it

[lilac saffron]

NO! I've never seen it??

[fleet schooner]

because you don't have to, just take from their cold body

[lilac saffron]

I've always seen them wear orange and black

[fleet schooner]

yeh those are more common

[lilac saffron]

WTF

[fleet schooner]

I rarely see green but I do know there's green in it

[lilac saffron]

What the fuuuuck

[fleet schooner]

no swearing

[lilac saffron]

Shut up this is fallout...

[fleet schooner]

naw man this is Bethesda

[lilac saffron]

Fallout has way more profanity than me

[fleet schooner]

try no profanity then

[flint nest]

Fallout the game has profanity yes

This is the official Bethesda discord, which is not a Fallout game, and does not allowed cursing, which if you had read the #rules you would know that

Yk, it always bugged me that everyone lives in rickity shacks with holes everywhere, who would live in a house like that? You would catch a cold the first rain that comes thru, and would be most likely dead come the first winter

Gaps in the walls cloth roofs, no insulation, horrible

And then theres places like diamond city where no one knows how to use a broom?

[fleet schooner]

I love how Crater Raider seems to have better sanitary living environment than settler 200 years later

[flint nest]

Indeed

Its not like not that many people wouldn't know how to construct a proper shelter, hunt, fish, etc after the bombs, prices were high, resources were low, basically a great depression type era, people would probably be learning some stuff on the side, get creative and figure out ways to get what they need

And then those people would pass it down to their kids, and their kids

[fleet schooner]

I mean I guess because a lot of NPC around Fallout 4 only have 4 INT for their stats

[flint nest]

And true, but knowledge would of still gotten passed down

Alot of people would probably be writing down stuff too, how to make plaster, make and mix cement, make construction materials, how to fish, how to cook, etc

[fleet schooner]

I guess since gangs harass them so much their progress kept being halted

while Minutemen tries to keep law and order, they only do that to some extend before

[weak coyote]

There is... orange green... Green black... Black black ... Versions.

Orange looks good with like metal, robot, the junky homemade armors.

Green looks good with bos brown, black combat armor.

Black black looks awesome with black leather... A poor man's stealth suit.

[simple ginkgo]

Nice

[sand vessel]

Should I play modded or un-modded? (i just got on steam but ive played fo4 before on console)

[flint nest]

Up to you, mods on PC are much more plentiful and powerful than on console, so you could always just get UF4P and a achievement re-enabler for a vanilla playthru

[sand vessel]

Whats a mod that enables acheviments?

[flint nest]

Give me a lil bit and ill look at the one i have, but you should be able to just look up "Achievement re-enabler" on Nexus Mods and find one

[flint nest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12465 this is the one that i use, all of them uses F4SE, which youll need to install sooner or later if you play around with more and more mods

[pure sigil]

The UF4P was more trouble than its worth for me and others from what I've seen on various forums.
I actually had less trouble without it and nothing game breaking in over 5k hours.
I'm not dismissing it as I have also seen people say it was great for them.
Maybe try without it first, you can consider using it if you're encountering bugs you think it will fix.

[flint nest]

ah, well, even if you dont use UF4P there are mods that you might find interesting or can go in a "Vanilla+" modlist

also i recommend using a mod launcher, i use Mod Organizer 2, but there are several others

[lilac saffron]

Anyone here have the fallout 2 Friday meme?

[simple ginkgo]

mods do help tho i play on seires x and having fun with it

[weak coyote]

On pc... Definitely modded.

[heavy pasture]

start here for modding https://themidnightride.moddinglinked.com/

[heavy pasture]

buffout 4 enables achievements on top of other stuff

not that it matters but it keeps the list lighter

[flint nest]

I think i tried to install Buffout 4 before but either i couldn't get it to work, or i couldn't find out how to enable achievements

Installed it again recently tho and have it working, but the Nexus page says nothing about it enabling achievements

[flint nest]

i got a vats enhanced gauss rifle and let me tell you, it is sexy

[heavy pasture]

its enabled by default in the buffout ini file

[gilded lava]

This game sucks

[flint nest]

You didnt need to join the discord to tell us that

[heavy pasture]

i was gonna send a picture but uh

cant lol

[pure sigil]

You can post pic in #screenshots-and-video

[heavy pasture]

oh well
eh
not a big deal

[lilac saffron]

How do I get early access I sign up and login for Xbox

[heavy pasture]

did you buy premium edition

[lilac saffron]

I haven’t

[flint nest]

For Starfield?

[heavy pasture]

no early access then

[lilac saffron]

If I buy it now can I play it

[heavy pasture]

uhhh
not sure, id assume so?

[unique elk]

I have game pass and got the premium upgrade to play early, it’s not letting me on…

[pure sigil]

#starfield-chat

Or #1146512307753590956 - technical issues

This is fallout-4-chat 😁

[clever talon]

Hello fallout 4 chat

How are we feeling today?

[flint nest]

Horrible because everytime i try to go retrieve Drinking Buddy, he doesnt move, and i cant exit the taphouse cause i get stuck on a Infinite loading screen

Other than that, good tho

[clever talon]

Fallout 🫶

[ruby carbon]

https://www.twitch.tv/nxmbnxp hey yall should check out my friend's stream

[restive violet]

does anyone know why the splattercannon looks like a default handmade but in videos on youtube and stuff the gun is all colorful?

[frail ridge]

Can anyone help me I’m trying to get into the game and I’m not sure what to do

[fleet schooner]

idk, when I try to buy it, it has The Pack color (Yellow, purple, blue and stuff) and I thought it's normal

[half light]

literally do whatever you want. Are you playing with mods, or vanilla?

[frail ridge]

Vanilla

[half light]

well, i say follow your main quest until you finish unlucky valentine

that way you can get to diamond city, get yourself 3~ companions (you can only have one at a time, unlike FNV.. humanoid and animal) ... Save your caps, explore, grind your levels..

figure out what sorta build you're gonna go for too, there are lots of options. But just stick to what works best for you! I usually use shotguns and revolvers..

But yes, just get yourself familiar with the gameplay loop, and make sure to take time to play all the side content you can find, and explore all that the map has to offer.

[half light]

so yeah, just do what what you wanna do. You dont have to focus on the main game.

[runic hawk]

Hello

[fleet schooner]

Find your son, shoot your son

I forgot to nuke your son too and his wicked legacy but whatever

[flint nest]

Dont forget to nuke the dude who kidnapped your son

[fleet schooner]

I tried but he lived

damn you Plot Armor

[flint nest]

Lol

[restive violet]

yea idk why it’s like that it’s weird mine doesn’t have all of the wacky colors i’ve tried searching it up and everything i can’t find nothing

[granite gale]

What's y'all's favorite modded power armor

[weak coyote]

For a first time player, I would focus on the main story, you will learn how everything works.

Also recommend playing on survival, all the mechanics like settlement building, chems, food, perks, looting, exploring,etc... Everything in the game becomes more important on survival, whereas on lower difficulty you ignore alot of stuff.

You'll get more outta the game on survival.

[cedar vigil]

Hello. Has anyone got a fix for the bug "Vault 111 door won't open" that actually works?

[covert kettle]

Can you have intercourse in fallout 4 ?

[copper echo]

It’s fade to black like in Fallout 3.

[flint nest]

Im going into the glowing sea naked, fingers crossed i get super powers

[lilac saffron]

Do you have the Tunnel Snakes CC installed? If so that's one you should wait to install until after you bring Preston and the others from Concord to Sanctuary.

[lilac saffron]

Hi

[woven spear]

@median geode hey im trying to use ur detection shades mod and it keeps freezing my game as soon as i wear them within 10 seconds.. ive changed my mod order and disabled suspect mods and it doesnt resolve its a good idea though lets find out why- dm me to reply

[storm kite]

hello someone knows how to fix that the game closes when entering the mechanist's lair I saved game and re-entered even load a previous game to try to access from the beginning but remains the same

[copper echo]

You could try asking in Fallout Support (it’s in the Community Support section). Someone there might know the answer.

[storm kite]

thnx

[proven elm]

The best place to ask mod questions is in #fallout-4-mods or #1067505929534320700

[twin geyser]

gatorclaws cant' spawn after the quest right?

[pure sigil]

Once the replicator has been shut down in the related quest they will no longer spawn.

[twin geyser]

further question how can I force drop an item
I have a quest item that I got before I started the quest and it doesn't recognize I got it

[steel hill]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Quest_item?so=search

Can't say that helps as it's not written for f4 yet...

Probably wont...

[pure sigil]

On PC do this: Open the console
Type: player.showinventory
This will give you all of the item id numbers in your inventory, find and note the ID of the item you want to remove.
Then type: player.removeitem <item ID>

[twin geyser]

do you know the command to spawn it it?

[pure sigil]

What is the item?

[twin geyser]

treehouse medalian

[pure sigil]

xx03ac7e
xx is the position of the Nuka World DLC in your load order

[twin geyser]

mod load order?

so if I have no mods would it be 01?

[pure sigil]

I'm not 100% sure that spawned quest items would count though. They may not be flagged as such.

[twin geyser]

and what's the command itself?

[pure sigil]

What dlc's do you have installed?

[twin geyser]

I doubt just putting an item id would work

cause I need to get it back

[pure sigil]

The command is player.additem xx03ac7e

[twin geyser]

welp that didn't fix the bug

[pure sigil]

In my load order with all dlc's the the prefix xx for Nuka-World is 06 btw

[twin geyser]

I was able to delte and readd the medalian but it didn't fix the quest

[pure sigil]

Possibly as I said, a spawned quest item may not carry the flag

[twin geyser]

well the old one didn't either

[pure sigil]

I assume this is the Precious Medals quest for NIRA
Do you have all the other Medals needed?

[twin geyser]

I had them all then died and didn't have a save

[pure sigil]

There's a known bug that the tree house one won't be checked off the list if obtained prior to actually receiving the quest @twin geyser

[twin geyser]

yep trying to fix that bug

does it do good damage compared to your other weapons, and do you like using it?

[pure sigil]

Most times collecting all the rest including the Nuka-Racers one will allow the quest to progress

[twin geyser]

nuka racers?

also selling to a specific npc is meaningless

all npcs will give you the same price for it

[pure sigil]

Nuka-Racers is a ride in Kiddie Kingdom

[twin geyser]

you don't need to ask about every weapon, you can try them out yourself and see what you like

[pure sigil]

@twin geyser if you have all 7 of the medals and still cannot get the quest to complete you can open the console and type
SetStage DLC04SettlementFF02 300
to complete the quest.

[fleet schooner]

T-65 Secret Service

[river berry]

any news on f4 next gen update?

[limpid hedge]

There’s a F4 next Gen update?

And it’s a free update rather than a ‘Fallout 4: special edition’?? That’s not very Bethesda-like but it would be greatly appreciated

[magic current]

dose marcey ever stop being a misserable cow or is the only fix to basically ship em off to a meat grinder?

[pure sigil]

She will only be a little bit less cynical if the settlement happiness is high but yeah she never stops moaning.

[weak coyote]

Banish her to spectacle island, and never build up the settlement, just unlock it and send fools there you never want to see agsin

[strange slate]

Just send her to the most miserable settlements

Spectatle Island, Murkwater, Hangsman’s Alley

[copper echo]

Spectacle Island is a good Railroad Safehouse - story-wise. It’s separated from the mainland, you have privacy, you can conduct meetings with ease, you’d see most enemies coming, you’d be able to hide synths without issue since you’re controlling the flow of traffic to the island (you can’t just stumble onto it like you could on the mainland). There’s plenty of room for the ||teleporter.||

[strange slate]

I really dislike how Mercer Safehouse is always random

Because Hangman’s Alley is not a good safehouse

[flint nest]

Was about to ask that, if it was always random who could we choose

Before today i always had outpost zimoja some how, which was 3 times

Well, before this playthru, not today

so naturally i thought Outpost Zimoja was the one it always picked

and yea idk why Pam decided that Hangmans alley would be the best place for a safehouse

[strange slate]

You need to be a certain level for some safehouse locations like a staggering 45 for Spectacle Island

Nobody got the time to grind that much

The more you have to work for a settlement, the more the level requirement for that settlement to be picked

[flint nest]

i was around 45 if not above it when i got my safe house, this time i got coastal cottage

[strange slate]

You can preload a safe to get the settlement you want

[strange slate]

So any settlement that is kinda difficult has a certain level requirement befitting of that difficulty

[flint nest]

well that was a while ago and i doubt ill remember that the next time i start a playthru

[strange slate]

You can also change the location through command

[flint nest]

how do i do that?

[strange slate]

“type ClearQuestAliases RRR04 and SetQuestAliases RRR04 successively until the desired location is selected. The ID of the chosen safehouse location can be checked by entering ShowQuestAliases RRR04” - thank you, Fallout wiki

[flint nest]

ty

[strange slate]

I don’t think you can change it after you complete a certain railroad quest, I’m not sure which. Just beware.

[copper echo]

You can save scum (prior to finishing the prior Railroad quest) to change the location. I like picking Spectacle Island. It makes the most narrative sense.

[copper echo]

You’re right. The location is chosen as soon as you’ve completed Boston After Dark and started Butcher's Bill. Literally during the conversation with Dr. Carrington that ends one quest and starts the other.

[weak coyote]

There are many mods that make the safe house a specific location... Iirc they are called "mercer safe house always (location name) “

Or just save scum.

[weak coyote]

What is with Abernathy farm and random objects appearing on the ground near a tato plant... I've had armor pieces, weapons and most recently the warhead quest item spawn?!

[river berry]

fallout 4 next gen update when?

[flint nest]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[lilac saffron]

When it's ready

[river berry]

date window?

[lilac saffron]

No one knows

[flint nest]

@river berry refer to this

[scarlet sky]

Lol doom doom doooooooom hahaha the universe dying of heat, in the spaces of vaacum that cant hold heat. Prob the dumbest thing ive ever heard 🤣

[glad atlas]

So what are some of things fallout 4 did better than starfield?

[scarlet sky]

Ill let u know when i can afford the game lol

[fleet schooner]

so far, modding

[glad atlas]

lol

[fleet schooner]

I think currently Fallout 4 (despite not that good) has a decent survival aspect while Starfield so far does not have Survival mode

[glad atlas]

yeah that is correct

[simple ginkgo]

i cant wait

[strange slate]

It shouldn’t have a survival aspect, actually I think Fallout 4’s world is contradictory to a survival game and heavily restricts the character.

[strange slate]

1. Fallout 4 shouldn’t be a survival game. Not that a survival fallout can’t exist, Fallout 76 is a pretty good survival game but Fallout 4 is 200 years from 2077. Trade is more important than scavenging, people trade more than they scavenge in Fallout 4 and yet the game makes you scavenge.
2. This playstyle restricts character freedom. Again, the game forces you to play as a scavenger if you care even the tiniest bit about your settlements. “Boom, you’re a scavenger. You never wanted this, you never asked for this.” It’s really infuriating as I stuff my pockets full of junk that should be junk.