fallout-4-chat

[proven bluff]

Everything is compatible afaik, and will not result in any major fps drop or performance problems

[kindred wasp]

Nice

[pliant grotto]

I don’t know why you’d do that when the Ultimate Update or whatever that’s gonna include it all for free is coming sometime within the next 8-9 months

[crisp stream]

me who bought almost all the CC a year and a half ago

[kindred wasp]

Slocum's joe is must have

[kindred wasp]

I have a question. Not quite about mod, but something geared towards how the game works. Since we have so many mods recreating real-life weapons, inspired by games like COD, Battlefield and Farcry, why isn't there a mod that makes your character jump through obstacles like the animations in those games?

Any problems with working with player collision with a static object?

[crisp stream]

Sounds difficult

[weak coyote]

Honestly how many instances do you encounter waist high obstacles to justify a vault

[kindred wasp]

Good question, but what we mostly have in this game are destroyed buildings and obstacles on the street, no?

Even I might be crazy, but don't NPCS have animations jumping over obstacles?

I would like to have one of their animations adapted in first person. Since I don't know how to make Mods, I would like to know why I haven't seen any yet since we have a lot of things that increase immersion. Those Battlefield animations when you slide over an object you used to get cover are a pleasure to watch

I actually expressed myself badly. Somehow it felt like I wanted to jump like we do in farcry on rocks. I meant jumping like in Battlefield through windows and bags we use for cover

[proven bluff]

Fun fact, there are 4x as much players playing Fo4 on steam as SWOTR

[lilac saffron]

Tunnel Snakes has been known to keep the Vault 111 door from opening at the beginning of the game and it also interferes with Codsworth when you first get back to Sanctuary and interferes with When Freedoms Calls in Concord. Basically wait to download Tunnel Snakes until you bring Preston and the others in Concord back to Sanctuary.

[proven bluff]

Strange, maybe multiple runs needed for this bug to happen to me

[lilac saffron]

It's long known bug if you haven't had it happen then you're just lucky.

[proven bluff]

Oh, ig that’s where all my gacha luck went

[lilac saffron]

Maybe @vague basin can enlighten you about the bug with Tunnel Snakes since you seem to think it's a joke.

[proven bluff]

No, I believe you

It’s just many times i see people complaining about bugs that i don’t seem to get hit by

Which is strange

[lilac saffron]

For the years I never got hit by most bugs either but the last few months I've gotten hit by a lot of them.

[proven bluff]

Guess RNGesus works in mysterious ways xD

It seems that it’s the opposite case for me in FoNV, people keep saying that it’s playable unmodded yet i keep crashing, having corrupted files, etc

It even crashes less than Fo3 (which people say crashes more than NV)

I think i only crashed twice in Fo3 through my entire play, and one of these two was self inflicted crash

[lilac saffron]

I've never had problems with NV or FO3 so far FO3 has launched right out of the box and only one crash with NV and none with FO3.

And watch now that I said that I probably jinxed myself and they'll both start crashing like no tomorrow. 😋

[proven bluff]

This entire conversation is Jinxed xD

[lilac saffron]

Me with "Blood on the Ice" in Skyrim.

For years, I've witnessed people mention how buggy and broken it is, but I've never had a single issue with that quest in all my years playing Skyrim.

[vague basin]

I've never been hit by the Tunnel Snakes issue either. It's also not something limited to that quest that clogs things up. It's overload of the system in general at the beginning of the game because of how so many of the CCs get set off.

[vague basin]

Firsthand witness here. I killed one of the NPCs necessary to it during the Dark Brotherhood questline and BOTI would simply not start because of it.

[lilac saffron]

Not doubting it happens. Just that I have never dealt with the bug.

[lilac saffron]

I seem to get hit by it every time I install it and it could be the only one I have installed.

[vague basin]

It's a long term set of circumstances that could happen. Edge case as it were. Which is usually how most bugs work.

As far as Tunnel Snakes, I've specifically had it be the only thing installed at the beginning and rushed straight down to Codsworth. That's how you're supposed to know things got borked because he wouldn't speak to you for awhile.

[lilac saffron]

Well in my case the vault door would never open so I couldn't get to Codsworth.

[vague basin]

Well hopefully when Bethesda does the next-gen update, one of the bug fixes includes changing the CC quests so they don't all fire off at once.

[lilac saffron]

That would be nice if they did....but I'm not holding my breath.

[vague basin]

They did it for Skyrim.

[lilac saffron]

I was referring to fixing the bugs.

[vague basin]

I suspect modifying how those quests start will address the issue.

[lilac saffron]

I hate the 0 kb glitch

[trail ridge]

I've read the runes in the mud and they tell me the update will be delayed indefinitely without explanation.

[zinc ridge]

guess you'll find out in nine months

[trail ridge]

We shall see indeed

[crisp stream]

Did you try sacrificing your soul to Atom?

Might help I think

Definitely recommend it

[lilac saffron]

I’m hoping they fix the 0kb glitch in that update

[trail ridge]

I believe it would work but I'd rather read the runes than lose my soul to radiation 😮

[crisp stream]

Reading the runes will suffice

[north needle]

i went a virtual rune reader just for funs asking when the update will be and i got "anything can happen mysteries may revealed and everything is in flux"

not fun anymore

[zinc ridge]

consult the magic 8 ball - ||Bethesda is your Friend||

consult the magic nukashine -|| where the *** am I ||

[lilac saffron]

One of my raider missions is to collar someone in the third rail. Will everyone in their turn hostile when I put the collar on the dude?

There*

[zinc ridge]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Collaring_Outside_the_Lines

[crisp stream]

Yeah, they all aggro pretty much

I think this occurs in FO3 as well, with Strictly Business

[grave pecan]

Lure him out

[lilac saffron]

That is a limitation of the console due to way it handles files. The only way that can get permanently fixed is if Sony cooperates and so far Sony has refused to do so.

[kindred wasp]

I find this argument funny. Unfortunately I can't agree with something like that, and I don't even have a PlayStation. It's like: I'm going to put this box here and not tell you that there's a bomb here. If it explodes and your house comes down, then it's the fault of the material in your house that couldn't withstand the explosion. fellsbadman But rest assured, if you have 0kb Glitch just uninstall the game, restart the console, install the game again, run three marathons, pray twenty-five times, break three world records and do two hundred push-ups. Then if following these steps nothing resolves then just send a ticket and wait four years for us to see if they take action to remove the creation club from the console

[lilac saffron]

https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/topic/5968-the-xbox-ps4-0kb-glitch/&do=findComment&comment=181747

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[kindred wasp]

I also think I overdid it. Four years? maybe only two

But that's ok, I don't want to sound bombphobic

[lilac saffron]

On the PS4 and PS5 mods, saves and CC all share the same storage space which is a little over 1gb and when that space runs out that's when the 0kb glitch hits. On the Xbox1 and Series X/S mods and CC have their own reserved space and saves have their own. And on the PC CC is in the games install directory.

On the PS4 and PS5 that makes it an OS specific problem that only Sony can address. All they would have to do is increase the storage allocated for the game. But they won't do it.

[kindred wasp]

I will apologize. I don't own a PlayStation, so I publicly apologize to Bethesda for my comments. It's not my place to speak. I will also, with each creation club I buy, type a thank you email with at least 1,500 sentences. I'm sorry please

[lilac saffron]

Not a problem I have a PS5, Xbox Series X/S and PC because I'm a big nerd 😋

[proven bluff]

Afaik, Playstation even started actively working against mods and modders

[proven bluff]

Something about them refusing outsourcing mods, which makes games like fallout 4 get hurt

It’s a shame as well since Fo4 has the best mods

Well, it’s Fo4 vs Skyrim, but Fo4 has the more stable ones from what i’ve tested

[kindred wasp]

[lilac saffron]

That sucks

[lilac saffron]

I’m hoping that deleting my game app then redownloading and reinstalling the game will uninstall the cc mods I have

[lilac saffron]

Cause I think the cc mods are causing the 0kb glitch

[full mango]

That can also be caused if you have too many save files, especially quick saves

[lilac saffron]

Oh true

[sturdy viper]

0kb was around before mods even released, but getting rid of quick saves and auto save except maybe sleep should help. You just have to remember to manual save frequently.

[lilac saffron]

Ok

[blazing silo]

Isn't there only one quicksave slot?

[blazing silo]

Wouldn't multiple quicksaves not just overwrite the same file

[proven bluff]

They do in PC afaik

In Survival as well

[sturdy viper]

Quick save is basically the exit save, but when you got all the autosaves on, and then you fast travel, wait, sleep all in succession while it was trying to save one and trying to save another and another in the three Auto saves and that seems like when you get the 0KB bug...

[lilac saffron]

Yes if you delete the game it also deletes the CC installed

[lilac saffron]

Doesn't auto-saves just reuse the same 3 spots.

[sturdy viper]

Yes and it keeps over writing them but if you've got all the auto saves on and you fast travel then sleep it's trying to overwrite one while it's over writing another

[lilac saffron]

I delete those periodically and I have the others at least the ones I can turn off in the settings options off

[sturdy viper]

Like for example you fast travel to your settlement and you've got the Fast Travel marker in front of your bed and then instantly sleep to heal yourself it's trying to save twice at the same time.

Or another example is you've got cages, you sit and wait in a chair 24 hours, it auto saves, but your cages didn't fill up so you sit right back down and wait another 24 hours it's trying to auto save over the other Auto Save...

[lilac saffron]

All those can be turned off in the setting menu options. The only auto-save that can't be turned off is the one that occurs after you use your Perk points.

[sturdy viper]

Dude you don't have to tag somebody every time, especially if they're responding back, and also yes you are correct only reason why that perk Point Auto Save on is so you can't change your mind... but if you're trying out a perk manual save before you pick it and if you don't like what happens (like the night vision perk, which is unfortunate because then you're stuck with that night vision crap, and the one after it is pretty decent) you have a saved revert back to.

[lilac saffron]

Well excuse me I was raised to show proper respect when responding to someone.

[sturdy viper]

I was just saying I'm back and forth between three different channels, and have I been replying without the reply tag to you every time and you've been responding? But you've been reading mine and responding.

[lilac saffron]

I'm sorry I use dual monitors and I forget that some don't use them.

[sturdy viper]

Not a problem, but I'm on my phone bouncing around.

But if it's been a half an hour I usually use the tag/reply on someone.

[lilac saffron]

I thought I had the ping turned off when I tagged someone just looked in the settings and the option had been removed.

Now I see it you have to turn it off every single time now didn't notice that before.....I hate Discord sometimes almost as bad Facebook.

[sturdy viper]

No the Ping is attached to reply or @mentions.

[lilac saffron]

There was a setting if you right clicked on the server that would turn it off but it's not there anymore.

[sturdy viper]

There is still @mentions which a reply tag is.

[lilac saffron]

Yeah but that I think only applies to when you get mentioned tho

[sturdy viper]

See

Reply ⬆️

[heady current]

Let's try and bring it back to Fallout 4 or discuss discord functionality in #off-topic.

[lilac saffron]

Yes you're right and on that subject when is that nasty bug called Preston Garvey going to get fixed. 😋

[sturdy viper]

Never, another settlement needs your help.. unless you leave him in the museum, which does coincidentally seem to lower settlement attacks.

[lilac saffron]

I don't get settlement attacks I have mod that turns them off

Coincidence? I think not!

Preston is a synth

[icy parrot]

Anyone know of a mod that adds more capacity to vault 88?

[sturdy viper]

And somehow the developer seem to think ahead, where you don't actually need Sturgis to activate the ending if you go through other factions.... it's like they knew that everyone would hate, everyone you rescued from Concord... they made that apparent when they made Marcy non-essential.

[lilac saffron]

Uh do you mean more space to build on?

[icy parrot]

not physical space, more the capacity that you see on the top right....I'm assuming that it how much I can build...

[lilac saffron]

Oh settlement budget the only mods I know affect all of them and not really a good idea to use.

But there is a glitch not sure if it works for Vault 88 but if you scrap a bunch of weapons it should increase the budget.

The more valuable the better.

[icy parrot]

what would be the issue with using a budget increase

[lilac saffron]

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/understanding-ctds-in-the-triangle-of-death-sanctuary-abernathy-farm-and-red-rocket.6964/

[lilac saffron]

I don't hate anyone we rescue in Concord...

[sturdy viper]

Why rescue them? Leave them in the museum... @lilac saffron

[lilac saffron]

I like them?

I just don't like how Preston and Marcy are programmed to behave.

Spend enough time around Marcy and you realize she's actually a really nice person but then you get those off handed comments she makes.

I don't like how they handled Preston and his radiant quests, but I still like his character.

They should have had Preston give you scripted tutorial quests in the beginning and then left the radiant quests to Radio Freedom after you retake the Castle.

Instead of him continuing to give you radiant quests without asking for them...

[icy parrot]

what about a mod that only increases Vault 88's budget?

that shouldn't cause too many problems ...right?

[lilac saffron]

Best bet is to just try and use the weapon glitch not sure if it's even possible to have a mod that affects just one settlement at least not without F4SE. You can try asking in #fallout-4-mods

[icy parrot]

when you say scrap, do you mean scrapping in the weapon bench or drop and scrap

[lilac saffron]

Drop and scrap.

I think clothes can also work so if you have bunch of raider junk on you.

[icy parrot]

I'm in survival so I havn't got much useless stuff

[lilac saffron]

Survival I'd ask in #fallout-4-mods then as there are some mods that don't work well with survival mode and can even cause problems.

[proven elm]

Neither do I.

[lilac saffron]

Marcy may come across as cold, but I can't blame her. We meet her after they lost everything--including their son--and have been running from problem after problem for days if not weeks.

[lilac saffron]

It's not that she comes off cold it's the offhanded rude comments that just doesn't match her real personality.

I used to not like her but after spending a lot of time around her I just feel sorry for her.

[crisp stream]

Marcy and Jun are suffering from trauma

They lost their boy and they have literally been fighting against death for a while now

if i had to guess, her cold demeanor is probably a way to conceal her true feelings or something like that.

[sturdy viper]

It's not drop and scrap it's drop and store in workbench , bigger items like miniguns, rocket launchers, guass, basically anything other than one-handed weapons will significantly decrease your build limit when dropped and stored and you can do it over and over and over, however doing that too much may lead to the 0KB glitch, because I'm thinking about that might be how it happened to me before mods came out at Spectacle Island.

[deep parcel]

a question that made my Fallout 4 character wake up in the middle of his sleep; Will current gen save files work on the next gen update ?

[lilac saffron]

Don't see why not IIRC it did for Skyrim.

Although you probably won't see the full benefit until you start a new game.

[lilac saffron]

Oh crap I am never letting my cousin touch my game again they bought and downloaded the Pint Sized Slasher CC. Now I got a creepy clown in my game. 👀

[icy parrot]

what is the 0KB glitch?

[lilac saffron]

It's when the consoles allocated save storage space for the game has reached it's limit and there is no more room. It mostly happens on the PS4 and PS5 because saves, mods and CC use the same storage space. It can also happen on the Xbox but far less likely due to CC and mods having their own reserved space and saves have their own storage space. It can also happen if a game save gets corrupted such as extensive overwriting of the same save file.

[weak coyote]

On PS4, okb is mainly in my experience and research caused by ccc, mostly skins ... And the chemistry workbench, crafting alot of things all at once, and alot of crafting mods use the chemistry workbench.

[lilac saffron]

The 0kb glitch existed before CC was even around.

[weak coyote]

Just save before crafting and after, if okb, delete new save, reload previous save.

[weak coyote]

Also chemistry workbench...

[lilac saffron]

How do i get a settlement to 100 happy. I have all humans no robots and a dog and cat and stores and stuff and it’s at 75 with a red arrow going down

[weak coyote]

I have got okb with no ccc and no mods by crafting alot of jet all at once

[lilac saffron]

Or just be mindful of how much you install which is what I do with my PS5 and have never seen the glitch and I also don't keep a ton of saves 12 at most.

[lilac saffron]

Save file bloat yeah that is another one.

Usually means the save got corrupted.

Had that happen on my XboxOneX

[weak coyote]

There is a detailed explanation on the Bethesda net forums explaining it in detail,all the research and known causes that have been able to be replicated... It proved the chemistry workbench is one cause.

[lilac saffron]

There was some bad code with the chemistry workbench but I thought that was fixed.

But I rarely ever use it so I could be wrong.

[lilac saffron]

Make sure all beds are sheltered they need a roof and 3 walls. And make sure they all are assigned to a job and have a bed. Also note that double beds and bunk beds only count as one bed. Well I should say the room they are in needs a roof and 3 walls if the room is big enough you can have more than one bed in it. And in some settlements the pre-existing beds should be removed if you can do it as they tend to be buggy and sometimes won't count and sometimes you need to manually assign a bed. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Happiness_(Fallout_4)

[proven bluff]

Make water and food at least 2x your settler count, make settlement item from vault 88 dlc

[lilac saffron]

Dang it that’s so much work

Can a “large settlement” be one dude or is there a minimum pop it has to be for the achievement

[lilac saffron]

If your trying get Sanctuary to a happiness of 100 forgot it there's something about the crew you rescue from Concord that makes it nearly impossible.

Not sure if there is a minimum population requirement. Oh now that I think about it I think I got that achievement using Sunshine Tidings with just 3 settlers. Or maybe it was Starlight Drive-in.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Benevolent_Leader

[lilac saffron]

I wish I can turn autosaving off

[lilac saffron]

They can be turned off in the Settings Menu under Gameplay. The only one that can't be disabled is the one that happens after you use your Perk Points.

You can also avoid Exit Saves by holding the Playstation button (the one with the Playstation symbol) to exit to the PS desktop and use the options button to close the game.

Oh right the autosaves in Vault 111 before you get back to Sanctuary after the Prologue can't be turned of either.

[scarlet sky]

they can be turned off by playing that pesky lil setting called survival lol.

[lilac saffron]

Don't need Survival they can be turned off in the Settings Menu.

[grave pecan]

I wish glory was a companion 🙏 she’s so cool and amazing nickname angel of death

[scarlet sky]

Hahaha. Huh. Didnt know that

Seriously i never looked

[lilac saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

Are laser rifles bugged or am I missing something. I had a maxed out laser sniper rifle that did more damage than my combat rifle and had more range but would 4 shot feral ghouls when my combat rifle would one shot them

[lilac saffron]

Lasers are energy weapons and ghouls have a higher resistance to it.

[lilac saffron]

[scarlet sky]

the concept of lasers in games is so weird and flawed its super funny.

[lilac saffron]

I was lucky enough to find a 2 shot handmade rifle on my rifleman build (450 dmg pretty insane) and got excited to find a 2 shot laser rifle but it seems everything has a good bit of laser resistance

Making it worthless basically

[lilac saffron]

Not really worthless if it can get a critical hit it can turn most enemies into ash instantly.

The problem is getting the crit hit.

[tall bluff]

So, has there ever been an explanation for how Danse got into the Brotherhood?

He's not an Institute asset, and he's not recognized by the Railroad.

Closest I can figure is that maybe Harkness got another mind wipe and facelift from Pinkerton.

[lilac saffron]

As a human child he grew up in Rivet City and joined BoS when they were on a recruiting run. But when and where he was replaced by a synth is unknown. And considering he is Gen 3 synth it could have shortly before or after he came to the Commonwealth.

[grave pecan]

What’s the best armour I can wear with ballistic weave?

[lilac saffron]

The Mechanist's armor 182 damage resistance and 182 energy resistance with Ballistic weave MKV.

2nd best or maybe the depending on your view point would be Morgan's Spacesuit 115 damage resistance, 160 energy resistance and 1000 rad resistance.

[tall bluff]

I'm still salty I've never managed to unlock Ballistic Weave at crafting tables.

[lilac saffron]

You have to do the Railroad quests.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ballistic_weave

[tall bluff]

I know, but I've still never gotten access to it.

[ionic coral]

Hey everyone I’m stuck on a level can u help?

I am trying to remove hostiles in concord and died a few times and now I ran out of ammo for my mini gun where can I get some ammo or a new mini gun?

plz help

[lilac saffron]

Well what I do is let the deathclaw kill most of the raiders for me by making beeline to near where it spawns after killing Gristle and quickly get inside the right hand building the one with the balcony; watch out for the raider in there; once I hear the deathclaw trying to get through from the service tunnel. Then I just play cat and mouse waiting for the deathclaw to come out of hiding and nail him from the safety of the balcony.

[ionic coral]

Yeah but how do u get more ammo for the mini gun?

Thx btw

[lilac saffron]

You can't at that point need to make your shots count using short control bursts. And if you need to start using the 10mm or Pipe Pistol and even the Laser Musket.

And if your lucky you try to blow up the car and the truck when he is standing next to them by shooting them and take a huge chunk of his health that way.

[ionic coral]

Hmm ok

How do you get the laser musket?

[lilac saffron]

You should've picked that up right before you went into the museum there was a quest indicator right above it.

[ionic coral]

ah ok

I might need to go back and do it again

[proven bluff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/1269b0w/everything_that_was_bad_got_even_worse/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

A standard day in Fallout 4

[north needle]

majestic

[lilac saffron]

He likely was never replaced. The memories in his head were artificially created by someone.

[lilac saffron]

No one we meet in the Railroad recognizes him. I'm sure he went through the Railroad either way. I doubt he's supposed to be Harkness.

[lilac saffron]

Any proof to that? Otherwise that's just your head canon. Also not all synth's went through the Railroad; Nick Valentine, DIMA, Faraday, Chase and possibly most of the synth's in Arcadia never did.

[lilac saffron]

The fact that he's a missing synth implies it. The Institute keeps fairly good track of their synths and only seem to lose them when they go off and do their own thing.

If he had simply replaced someone, they'd probably have watched it happen. Danse is unaware he is a synth. The ones who replace people know they are.

DIMA could also artificially create memories so Danse could've went through Arcadia.

[lilac saffron]

That wouldn't really fit DiMA's MO.

[lilac saffron]

Usually no but he is not above it especially if said synth was meant to be spy.

DiMA only artificially created memories when he replaced people, and that was because he thought he had to to keep the peace between Acadia, Far Harbor, and the Nucleus.

Danse doesn't fit into that.

Why would DiMA need to spy on Rivet City?

[lilac saffron]

He wouldn't but he would need one in BoS.

Why? They posed no threat to his interests at the time.

[north needle]

the railroad its more in the creating new memories of synths dont knowing they are synths and even helping them relocate even outside of the commonwhealth. in lack of others proofs the straighfoward way is to assume railroad "created" synths such as magnolia sturges and danse etc

[lilac saffron]

Because of the Harkness incident it sparked a war between BoS and the Institute and considering how BoS views anything that isn't human or one their own, it would make sense to have have a spy among their ranks as a precautionary measure.

The Institute didn't become a focal point until Maxson took over though. It was scouts sent to the Commonwealth who informed them of what was happening. We don't even know how recently Acadia was founded. DiMA traveled a bit before he settled down and started it up.

[lilac saffron]

BoS knew about the Institute after the Harkness incident they just didn't know where they were at.

Yes they did.

Madison Li straight up told Lyons she was headed to the Commonwealth to find them.

[lilac saffron]

Yes in 2287 was when she went to the Commonwealth that means they didn't know where the Institute was until around that time.

She left in 2277...

[lilac saffron]

She was working with Project Purity at Vault 101 in 2277.

When you wake up after the events of Fallout 3's main quest, Lyons informs you Madison Li departed for the Commonwealth to find the Institute.

That's why she's suddenly absent.

Sorry, it wasn't Lyons. Daniel Agincourt and Alex Dargon say it, but they're working with the Brotherhood, so you can safely assume they knew.

[north needle]

also the game is in 2287 and she is already a head of a part of the institute, that wouldnt make any sense if she is a new person from outside just recently

[lilac saffron]

You don't know much about scientific communities do you.

[pliant grotto]

What Harkness incident? He and his quest aren't mentioned by literally anyone in FO4

[lilac saffron]

FO3

[pliant grotto]

I know about the Fallout 3 quest

The Brotherhood has no involvement in that and nobody mentions it in FO4

[north needle]

i know what a non cientific nomal person could know fiy

[pliant grotto]

There's nothing to suggest Harkness had any part in the Brotherhood's decision to investigate the Commonwealth; for all we know the Lone Wanderer may have never even done that quest canonically

[lilac saffron]

Whether the player did the quest canonically or not is irrelevant, but the Harkness incident brought BoS into contact with both the Railroad and the Institute and Harkness' very existence was deeply offensive to them.

According to what?

That sounds like sourceless conjecture. Nothing mentions Harkness being the spark that lit the flame.

[lilac saffron]

I'm only going by the wiki I personally couldn't care.

[pliant grotto]

Again, there's no indication that the Brotherhood had any involvement in the Harkness incident, or even knew about it. For all we know it went totally under their radar, and the fact that they didn't make any attempts to investigate the Institute or the Commonwealth until nearly 10 years later and make no mention of Rivet City or Harkness as the cause of those investigations suggests that's the case

And to my knowledge neither wiki suggests what you're saying, I'd be interested to see your alleged source

[hybrid vault]

what’s a good legendary effect for the assault rifle?

[crisp stream]

Doctor Li leaves at the end of Fallout 3. She started leaving immediately after it.

So, she did in fact, leave, in 2277

[lilac saffron]

Yeah I see that now missed it the first time.

[crisp stream]

[lilac saffron]

But the wiki having bits and pieces scattered makes it hard to put it all together.

[crisp stream]

I'll add onto what Blue said. There's no direct mention that the BoS knew about the Harkness incident, nor that it was the cause of them going to the Commonwealth.

I always support drawing your conclusion based on what you have though, but it should be made clear that its conjecture or hc if there's not much to go off of.

[north needle]

is not the lost patrol and danse patrol went to the commonwealth for the classic technologies and documents but danse's discovered those strange signals that we later know was ||the institute tp signals|| and that made maxon travel thre with the prydwen?

[lilac saffron]

Danse was sent into The Commonwealth as a scouting squadron to find the missing unit. However, when they reached the commonwealth they started receiving signals in frequencies that could only be reached by a high level of technology. When you enter ArcJet Systems, Danse informs you on The Institute. Meaning they already knew it exists. Their mission changed from retrieving a squad or their remains to figuring out where these signals were coming from. That’s when you meet them.

[north needle]

i mean they stand for blaming technology (as the bombs) for being the bane of civilization so knowing of an orgnization with technology to replace humans its enough for them to have a reason to want war with the institute, they dont need any incident for a reason. they only needed a true proof of location besides rumors and thats the signal haylen found

[lilac saffron]

But they went to the commonwealth for technology. Not war.

BoS is really nothing more than a Raider gang and a more high tech version of the Gunners.

[north needle]

once haylen found a strong indicator of the institute they went to war

[lilac saffron]

They literally do similar things they condemn Raiders for.

[lilac saffron]

I'll never really understand the justification set by Fallout 4. It's almost like they assumed players wouldn't have played Fallout 3 and didn't really want to reference the events of it beyond a very small amount. Even Doctor Li is totally explainable in just Fallout 4 alone. You don't really need context for anything with her.

There's no reason the Brotherhood wouldn't have already known about the Institute and the high level technology they could achieve. That's why Madison Li left to find them in the first place.

[lilac saffron]

The character doesn’t need to know about Fallout 3 though. The person playing the character however already knows. The character however, wouldn’t ask questions about Fallout 3 because he or she wasn’t even awake then.

Nate and Nora don’t know about the events of Fallout 3, and don’t know about the Enclave either. They don’t know anything about DC.

[lilac saffron]

That's not what I said. I said player not player character.

Yes but the player already knows about Fallout 3…why would characters in Fallout 4 mention anything about Fallout 3 to the main character who has just only woke up in Boston-

[lilac saffron]

... because they could have easily mentioned that the Brotherhood already knew about the Institute and what it was capable of accomplishing? Instead they use Recon Squad Gladius discovering the energy signals emitted by the Institute as the excuse for the Brotherhood realizing what they were capable of.

They didn’t know about the institute in fallout 3 though

[lilac saffron]

Speaking of which I need to replay FO3 to refresh my memory having to rely on the wiki to try and remember pretty much sucks with the way it has bits and pieces scattered everywhere.

[lilac saffron]

Madison Li left to find the Institute... the Brotherhood definitely knew why she left.

People who work for the Brotherhood tell you where she went.

[lilac saffron]

And that’s in the lore? Because I don’t remember anything about that.

Yes, it is. Alex Dargon and Daniel Agincourt both say she left to find them in the Commonwealth.

"Oh. Well, she... After what happened to you when the purifier started, I think she just kind of had enough. It was really hard on her, you know? First losing your dad, and then the Enclave, and then the Brotherhood taking over here. It was really just too much for her. So I guess she packed up a few things and headed off north, towards the Commonwealth. Rumor has it there's a scientific community up there. I sure hope she finds what she's looking for."
Probably because Dr. Zimmer wouldn't shut up about the Institute in Rivet City.

I mean did the brotherhood know? The only time I’ve seen the brotherhood mention her leaving the brotherhood FOR the institute is after you give the network scanner to Proctor Ingram. Maxson had a suspicion Li was working for the institute but didn’t know.

[lilac saffron]

That is what I was trying to say earlier. It's almost like Fallout 4 goes out of its way to use as little context from Fallout 3 as possible, despite this branch of the Brotherhood being from D.C. I was always taken aback by only Maxson being a returning character from 3's Brotherhood. Some of those scribes were young. Did they all happen to die or something?

Yeah they died besides Paladin Brandis.

That’s why Danse was sent in

Huh?

But after Danse entered the institute they started getting high frequencies.

I'm talking about Fallout 3 characters.

Which is what changed their objective

[lilac saffron]

Oh? I dunno they could’ve stayed in DC to keep it under control.

There’s a ton of easy explanations for that

[lilac saffron]

Acadia was around at least since 2276 which was when DIMA killed Captain Avery.

Or at least that's what the timeline on the wiki says

[hybrid vault]

i’m sad no one answered my question

[lilac saffron]

Would it be stupid if Bethesda didn’t give us all of fallout4’s cc content with the next gen update ? In my opinion it’s a yes .

[lilac saffron]

Seems to be conjecture. It's one of the few things on the wiki's timeline they don't source at all.

[proven bluff]

They literally gave us all of it for free in anniversary

[lilac saffron]

That’s skyrim not fallout 4

[lilac saffron]

I think you're confusing Skyrim and Fallout 4.
And it wasn't free anyway. It was $20.

[lilac saffron]

Didn't help me any I already had all of it.

[proven bluff]

No, in the 25th anniversary

They were giving out CC content free every day

Thought you had to grab them before the time is done

[lilac saffron]

Oh, huh. Must have missed when that was happening.

[lilac saffron]

It wasn’t the main content

[proven bluff]

Idk which ones

But they gave a whole lot of them

[lilac saffron]

That's probably because it's based on your play style on what legendary effects are best.

Yeah, some Legendary effects are better than others based on how you're playing.

Still I hope the fallout 4 next gen update will be like skyrim anniversary edition

I'm a stealth build so commando type effects won't help.

[lilac saffron]

I don't think we'll see an anniversary edition for FO4 for another 2 years as the game is 8 years old.

[lilac saffron]

I still hope we do

[crisp stream]

I can't believe its 8 years old

I remember watching the E3 reveal when I was 13-14

[lilac saffron]

Release date was Nov. 10, 2015 so actually a little under 8.

[lilac saffron]

I didn't even know what E3 or really anything in gaming was at the time. I would just happen to come across a YT video about a game and be like "mom I want that for Christmas!"

My brother had apparently heard about it from somewhere and showed me the trailer. He's to blame for my BGS addiction.

[crisp stream]

I remember seeing Alien concept art in the reveal and being like, omg they're adding aliens again

I've played fallout since I was 10. Had Fallout 3 gifted to me on my bday then

It was my first PC game

[lilac saffron]

I got Skyrim around when it came out, but my small brain didn't really understand it at the time. Fallout 4 was my first true BGS experience, and I got sucked into TES when Skyrim Special Edition came out.

I'm an old fart I remember playing the original Fallout back in 1997.

[crisp stream]

I'm really glad I get to contribute my love for the game to one of the wikis

[lilac saffron]

Fallout 2 my beloved.

[crisp stream]

Fallout 3 my beloved

[lilac saffron]

All of 'em are pretty good though... except a certain one...

We don't talk about that one.

[crisp stream]

Actually, that one is good

People just don't like it because everyone tells them not to tbh

[lilac saffron]

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is no bueno.

[crisp stream]

😡

Its a good game!

[lilac saffron]

Is a 5/10 at best.

[crisp stream]

Well, 5/10 is better than a 0/10

😭

[lilac saffron]

A good game that everyone hates on is Tactics.

[crisp stream]

Bethesda does care about Tactics too

Otherwise, they wouldn't give it its own page on Fallout website and bundle it with the Fallout anthology and reference the Midwestern BoS 6 times

Now, if only they made... Figurines

I would buy the hell out of those

[lilac saffron]

I enjoyed BoS, but I wouldn't call it a good video game. That's why I gave it a 5/10.

[crisp stream]

All fair and good

[lilac saffron]

Tactics is underrated.

[crisp stream]

Agree

[lilac saffron]

I think that's a perfect example of people hating a game because they were told to.

So many Fallout communities I've been a part of in the past have a lot of hate for the game. Not really sure why, especially considering a lot of 'em have admitted to never playing it.

[crisp stream]

Yeah

[lilac saffron]

How would you rank the games based on how much you enjoy them?

[crisp stream]

Well, I've enjoyed all of the ones I played. BoS included

I don't like ranking things like that tho

[lilac saffron]

Fair, fair.

[crisp stream]

Theres a unique quality to every game and targets a different niche

[lilac saffron]

I enjoy ranking things, but I always note that my rankings are fluid and subject to change at any time. xD

[lilac saffron]

Very true. It's a big reason I don't like comparing them unless they're of the same generation.

And really, I think the only games you can genuinely compare are 3 and NV.

[crisp stream]

Yeah, p much

[lilac saffron]

You can compare aspects of 'em all I guess. Like the quality of the writing and such, but it gets into some risky territory pretty fast outside of general things like that.

[lilac saffron]

Isn't BOS also around the time Interplay sold the rights away?

[crisp stream]

BoS is probably enjoyable a lot of Baldurs Gate Dark alliance fans

Same engine

[lilac saffron]

Dark Alliance is great.

[crisp stream]

And yeah, BoS came out in 2004. Beth bought fallout ip in 2004

[lilac saffron]

Dark Alliance II is good fun too.

Although it'll never happen I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Fallout, Fallout 2, Brotherhood and Tactics......as long as it's done right.

[crisp stream]

Knowing fans, they'd complain about every small detail /hj

[lilac saffron]

Most likely I've played the remake of FF7 and I do have some complaints about it.

But overall still enjoyed it.

Now they just need to release the second half of the game. Which will probably be another 100gigs.

[crisp stream]

😵‍💫

I want my Metroid Prime 4

But this is fallout 4 chat, so I'll not talk about it here xD

[lilac saffron]

My complaint about the FF7 remake is taking a single game and turning it into multiple games that you're releasing at different times.

What bugs me is the difference in the size of the game FO4 on PC around 36gigs, Playstation 56gigs and Xbox 63 gigs.

[lilac saffron]

No considering the size and scope of the game releasing it all once would've been massive money pit as very few could buy it.

It's less about that and more just disagreeing with how Final Fantasy handles their games as a whole anyway.

[full mango]

As a reminder: Abusive language and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. This includes comments directed at ZeniMax/Bethesda employees, mods, your fellow community members, or other groups or companies.

[lilac saffron]

There I removed it.

[warped tiger]

Attention all FALLOUT 4 PLAYERS, we are approaching april, which means it's potentially your last chance to collect the awesome St. Patties Day bundle for free in Creation Club.

Deck yourself out with a new power armor color, two new pipboy paints. Riley's rangers armor and weapons skins. Collect the package now before it's off store shelves.

While supplies last. Collect it now!

[sturdy viper]

Wow "Clean up on aisle 4"⬆️⬇️

[proven bluff]

Thx, i almost missed it

[north needle]

can u recomend me a laser or energy or something that looks like those? i wanna kinda play for a while with the chinese stealth armor (mostly for the looks) and a weapon that shoots energy and such but never really explored those so im pretty lost. I do searched my loots but seems i always leave them behind

oh yeah my build its absolute VATS and luck (crits) so something for that

[proven bluff]

Gatling Laser

Yes i know it’s not the best stealth weapon, but it looks way too good and fires way too satisfyingly

[warm yarrow]

@north needle have you looked at plasma?

[north needle]

dw im not that much stealth. 99% vats

[proven bluff]

Don’t use Gatling laser on Vats, it doesn’t work well due to its nature

[sturdy viper]

Gauss

[warm yarrow]

Melee is really fun if you have the correct build

[proven bluff]

Gauss is not a laser, it’s a high speed projectile

[sturdy viper]

It's still an energy weapon

[warm yarrow]

Righteous Authority would be the best if you use stealth and want a laser weapon

[proven bluff]

You can also use Muskets

[north needle]

yes i want laser or light or waves like proyectiles doesnt really matter the nature

[proven bluff]

These are insane in Vats builds

[north needle]

musket like the concord?

[proven bluff]

It deals ballistic damage

[proven bluff]

Yeah, Laser Muskets

[sturdy viper]

I am watching you don't have to tag 30 seconds later

[proven bluff]

Blame discord for this mechanic

[north needle]

from the pictures in wiki i liked plasma gun and gauss. wil try those and the musket and decide wich one gives me more fun. Thanks people

[sturdy viper]

It is basically a MAG rifle, which takes an electric charge to fire the bullet.

Yes, it's an Infamous rail gun.

[crisp stream]

There's a Rail Gun we never see, mentioned in Fallout 3

This is the only known prototype of the X277 "Viper" Magnetic Rail Cannon developed for the U.S. Military by West-Tek. Also commonly referred to as a "Railgun", the weapon uses energy cells to propel a depleted uranium round across a series of magnets discharging it at extremely high velocity. Deemed too costly to produce on a mass scale, the project was abandoned in 2044. On loan from the International Ordnance Museum, these cases display the various types of weapons and ammunition used by the military in past conflicts all over the globe.

[sturdy viper]

Fallout 3 didn't have the Guass

[crisp stream]

Wonder where it went... :p

Fallout 3 has the Gauss Rifle with Operation Anchorage

[proven bluff]

Too costly, throws Radium bullets, we can guess what it’s not in Fo4 😂😂

[crisp stream]

Depleted Uranium Rounds actually makes it sound an awful lot like the Tau Cannon from Half Life 1

[sturdy viper]

Well if you want to get technical about it, the Cryolator was a one-of-a-kind prototype weapon, but somehow every vendor sells ammo for it, and a few Raiders seem to have gotten their hands on one.

[crisp stream]

The Cryolator was actually originally created for Fallout 3 as a homemade weapon, but was shelved before release. Fallout 4 brought it back though, with a new design and background

[proven bluff]

Technically not a one of a kind, it’s made by items we already have in the world, mostly Gauss rifle parts and Cryo parts, we already have the Cryo bomb/mine so the technology is there, plus how fast it actually was developed from scratch by the overseer sounds very sus

[crisp stream]

I'm actually privy to its original makeshift version,

Adam Adamowicz knew exactly how to make what was on his mind

[sturdy viper]

Okay then explain why, in Fallout 3 and in NV the only way to wear power armor was to go through BOS training, all of a sudden in 4....if you weld a steering wheel to the back of it you can use an enter it? Apparently you could do that in Fallout 1 or 2. Why all the sudden put a submarine hatch door on it and anyone can wear it?

[crisp stream]

Well, with Power Armor Training, it's not that you "need" it per se, but that Power Armor is more so a weapon, which means it can be tough to use if you don't have proper know how

[proven bluff]

You require about 6 perks fully upgraded to draw out all of the Power armor’s usefulness

[crisp stream]

Any NPC being able to use power armor in game is a gameplay thing

The same way being able to carry 300 pounds of junk is a gameplay thing

[proven bluff]

You wearing it is nice and all, but you can’t do much without all the Intelligence , strength, and agility (i think) perks that requires it

[crisp stream]

Yeah, here, let me pull up dialogue from Fallout 3 and New Vegas for you. Hopefully, it helps out a little

Gunny in FO3:
Now look, to wear Power Armor, first thing you need to do is relax your muscles. Let the suit do the work. Okay? Now, you...

McNamara in FNV:
If only it were that simple. Think of power armor as a machine to be operated rather than clothing you'd wear. With a little instruction, using it becomes as natural as simple movement, but to the ignorant, it's just so much heavy junk.

Hardin in FNV:
Not even close. Power armor isn't something you wear so much as use. It's a weapon in its own right, and takes skill to wield. If you don't know what you're doing, you won't even be able to walk with it on. So how about a bit of quick instruction?

It's not that you need training specifically, its that in order to utilize it properly, training helps. That and being able to wear power armor instantly in FO3 and FNV off the bat could be seen as... overpowered in a way.

As for Fallout 4, I don't know if I would consider Power Armor to be overpowered.

[proven bluff]

And you can actually see that in Fo4, Leveled Spawns aside, Normal stupid raiders have the worst PAs, in fact, Raider PA is even weaker than T-45s, while Gunners, BOS and Rust Devils have the advanced versions of the PAs, like T-54, T-60 and even X-01, because they know how to upgrade and how to work with it, you’ll even see them having their own Legendary effect on PAs

[crisp stream]

Power Armor takes skill to use, the same way a car takes skill to drive or the same way it requires skill to fire a gun properly

[sturdy viper]

Still didn't explain why you can't equip power armor until you go to the training, and why there's no random power armor standing there, in any of those two games you can walk into it, and walk away wearing it, or buy a frame at a shop.... Unlike 4.

[crisp stream]

Hope that helps. This is just going off of my understanding of it.

Power Armor was more or less, a commodity in Fallout: New Vegas specifically. The BoS weren't that common in the Mojave since they stayed in their bunker.

So, Power Armor is not as frequently found.

As for why there's no random power armor standing anywhere, it's because it wasn't thought about extensively yet, most likely.

[lilac saffron]

In FO4 BoS lacked any significant presence the people of the Commonwealth most likely figured out how to use PA on their own. And the Sole Survivor depending on who you choose such as Nate former military would already know how same with Nora for all we know she could've been in the military as well but just being the spouse of someone in the military they could get the training to do it. I mean my wife can drive tank.

[crisp stream]

Nora could've have realistically been taught by Nate, even though she's a lawyer

[sturdy viper]

So unlike DC, and mojave, the people of Boston and Virginia somehow learned how to weld a submarine hach on the back of power armor and crack it open?

[lilac saffron]

Yep I taught my wife to drive tank.

I did power play so will there always be nuka world gang members in the commonwealth as random encounters

I’m enemies with them now idk if that changes anything

[crisp stream]

I never actually did Power Play, but I think if you go into their territory, they will attack you

[lilac saffron]

I'm not really sure I always just blasted them never did the Nuka Questline.

[crisp stream]

I can't really stomach doing Power Play either

[lilac saffron]

I always went straight to Open Season 😈

[sturdy viper]

Subject change, Wiki is wrong... where you at lunar?

[crisp stream]

I would go from when that guy tells you to start raiding settlements to Open Season

[lilac saffron]

Lunar who?

[crisp stream]

Then just blast em

[lilac saffron]

Nah I can't stomach Raiders.

Same with BoS

[crisp stream]

Yeah, no, that's what I meant

The moment they tell me to raid, I kill em

👿

[sturdy viper]

Neko... posting the cat gift

[lilac saffron]

Oh well probably taking a cat nap.

[crisp stream]

here, i have a suitable replacement

[sturdy viper]

Usually they're watching me, that was why I had to post clean up in aisle 4 from your conversation earlier.

[proven bluff]

It’s literally the place where both the PAs and most technology was made

In fact, we see it in pretty much every Terminal, every interaction, most prototypes originated from Boston and the CIT

Also if you checked the map, Boston is by far the map with the most Military Checkouts, Military bases, and Governmental areas

Plus the capital wasteland was bombarded to hell and back

[crisp stream]

Horse Power Armor 🐴

[sturdy viper]

Have you played 3 and NV? PA was a special bonus you could earn... then all of the sudden everybody can wear it, .

But apparently it was commonly available in pre beth.

[proven bluff]

Did you read what i wrote?

[crisp stream]

I did provide some dialogue lines that should serve as a good way to draw your conclusion.

Power Armor takes skill to use properly.

[sturdy viper]

No I didn't read what you wrote at all ...why do you think I commented. So then how do you explain them showing up in Virginia?

[crisp stream]

Anyone can fire a gun, but just because you can, doesn't mean you're good at firing it.

[proven bluff]

There’s also the fact that the BOS was in both the capital wasteland and the Mojave and they were SAVAGE there, they’d literally force you out of your power armor and confiscate all your energy weapons in Fallout 3, in the Mojave they were destroyed, but before the events of Fallout New Vegas, the NCR fought the BOS 3 times because of them forcibly taking power armors and other technology from everyone in the area

[crisp stream]

People being able to wear Power Armor doesn't meant they're good at using it

[sturdy viper]

I never had power armor I found in Fallout 3, and they forced me out of, and I never saw any power armor and New Vegas, even Veronica didn't wear it.

[proven bluff]

I have seen interaction with the BOS Outcasts where they take your power armor

[sturdy viper]

But weld the hidious submarine hatch on the back of it and everybody can use it.

[proven bluff]

Veronica was exiled

Why would they even give her a power armor?

[sturdy viper]

Veronica was the only way you could get into the BOS

[crisp stream]

Veronica is not exiled, and you don't need her to get in.

[lilac saffron]

The ones found in FO4 could be variants that hadn't been deployed to all areas.

[sturdy viper]

But it helps, especially once you get in

[random spire]

Veronica will wear PA if given it, but I don't see why a Scribe would wear it normally.

[crisp stream]

Yep.

Though, she has excellent combat training and can wear it

[proven bluff]

I thought she was exiled because she was lesbian? Or was she indirectly exiled? There was an entire arc about her and the girl we see in the dead money DLC

[crisp stream]

No, you might've misunderstood. She was not exiled at all

[sturdy viper]

Veronica was awesome and one of the best companions, but that's not a bethesda game.

[random spire]

One of her endings results in her being exiled, but it does not have anything to do with her sexuality.

[crisp stream]

Christine was not exiled either, but she started working for The Circle.

Veronica is not currently exiled when you meet her. She even says she's out doing errands for them.

[proven bluff]

Oh, I misinterpreted it then

[crisp stream]

Father Elijah used his status to break Christine and Veronica apart. Christine left for The Circle afterwards, to hunt down Elijah

[sturdy viper]

And Dynobot didn't try to correct that? Lesbian?

[random spire]

It's not a hateful term, so I don't see why it would.

[crisp stream]

^

I'm lesbean :p

[proven bluff]

She’s mid tbh, Cait has a better Explosive personality, Cass is overall the better Follower

[proven bluff]

We all are beans in the soup we call life

[crisp stream]

:3 true

embed... fail...

[random spire]

😭

It was a fist bump

[crisp stream]

😢

i saw, dw xD

[lilac saffron]

Yeah the gifs don't seem to work in this channel.

[sturdy viper]

Got dynoed

[crisp stream]

Louupy is a moderator for the server, so I feel like they should've embeded for her

😔

[sturdy viper]

You have to be affiliated with Bethesda to use them or post pictures, otherwise it just shows up as a link

[random spire]

They may have been turned off at some point to prevent spam. I can ask about enabling them (not just for me 😆 )

[lilac saffron]

By way only this channel? I don't have a problem with any of the 76 channels.

Or Elder Scrolls channels gifs work there too.

[lilac saffron]

I suspect they could get in trouble for not being LBGTQetc friendly by banning that word.

[random spire]

Don't see why it would be banned

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/719626730960060467/1067716795340963860/image0-9.gif

and gifs should now be working!

[lilac saffron]

I wouldn’t expect it to be myself, but some places think of words like that as purely naughty word, historically at least. In recent times, its obviously being seen as prejudice to ban it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784546058381688912/1088964255233101915/IMG_0137.GIF

Hmm, its not moving…lol…..

[lilac saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-gif-24172682

It’s showing the image at least now tho

[lilac saffron]

Can you check that gifs work in the screenshot and video channel. As this link should work lol

All time for to get back to my game.

Please 🙂

[crisp stream]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout4-fallout-unlikely-valentine-nick-valentine-valetine-gif-23862386

We stan, Nick Valentine.

[random spire]

Sure

[random spire]

They work 😁

[lilac saffron]

Ok, lemme post it again in there

[random spire]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout4-dance-gif-5721417

[lilac saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784546058381688912/1091113049538183219/IMG_0137.GIF

[random spire]

I think that particular gif might be borked

[lilac saffron]

Ok, doesnt move when i do it hahah

It’s moving in my photo library on my ipad where im uploading it from lol

Puts a big smile on my face every time i see it lol

Ill try posting direct in here….

Not happening, cant post direct in to here at all lol

[runic geyser]

Try now

[lilac saffron]

Nope, i have same thing in 76 channel too, can only post to screenshots and video, then have to copy media link

Erm….now I keep seeing text disappearing that im posting?

Not my day clearly lol

[slim wedge]

Hey y'all, I'm trying to start the Armoral Combat quest but it's not triggering. I finished Open Season before I attempted to start the quest for the first time. Any suggestions on how to get it to work?

[split breach]

There's a way to force trigger it

[lilac saffron]

If you killed all the raiders it won’t

[split breach]

Really? I've had it work even with the raiders dead

[lilac saffron]

You have to side with them but you can always kill then after you get the final reward from amoral

[wind ermine]

It'll still trigger iirc, don't know how to force it but it takes longer for it to randomly trigger after open season

[slim wedge]

All the raiders became hostile regardless of the faction when I started going after the leaders. Like in between locations they were y'all hostile

[split breach]

@lilac saffron I've had it work with me and the raider audience would be y'know in their seats watching the battle then after the battle has ended they would immediately turn hostile and attack the player

[slim wedge]

Is there a particular in game time for it to trigger or just a random possibility?

[split breach]

It's really a random possibility

There's a video on YouTube out there where you go behind the arena building. Here I'll see if I can find the link

[slim wedge]

Is there a way to increase the possibility like loading in and out of Nuka World repeatedly?

[split breach]

I do know a way let me find the link

[slim wedge]

I tried that, watched about 3 videos about different areas to run to and return. None worked so far

[slim wedge]

Kk

[split breach]

Hmmmm? Then it might just have to be a random possibility.

[slim wedge]

Dang

[split breach]

I know there's a mod out there to force trigger it but I assume you're going with a non modded playthrough

[slim wedge]

Yeah :/
Do mods permanently disable trophies?

[lilac saffron]

Yes

[split breach]

Unfortunately they do

[slim wedge]

Gotcha

[split breach]

https://youtu.be/7ziCep5SWpo

Try to see if that works because there's more than one trigger point

At least based on previous experiences

[slim wedge]

Off topic but has Bethesda plan on making the Unofficial Patch mod official? Like bug fix the game the lazy way with the mod?

[slim wedge]

Noted, I'll check it out. Thanks

[split breach]

I know they're releasing a next gen patch to fix the bugs

For the Xbox Series consoles, PS5 and PC

[slim wedge]

Would that update include old consoles too or just new ones?

[split breach]

I have no idea. Not much is known as present.

[slim wedge]

Kk

[lilac saffron]

The Xbox One and PS4 will get the bug fixes but not the next gen optimization.

[split breach]

Well you heard it from him

[slim wedge]

Nice, maybe it would stop Preston Quest dumping dialogue bug haha

[split breach]

General Another settlement needs your help. I'll mark it on your map

[lilac saffron]

Doubtful that is considered a low priority bug.

[lilac saffron]

Not true your a true liar

[slim wedge]

Maybe the devs don't know about this immersion breaking bug and should be notified for the 13976278th time

[lilac saffron]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Amoral_Combat

[lilac saffron]

The fallout wiki is wrong

Trust me I’m right

[slim wedge]

How is it wrong specifically? I'm quite lost at this turn of events here

[lilac saffron]

No I've had the quest after doing Open Season I never helped the Nuka Raiders.

[split breach]

Yeah I'm not wrong I know what I saw

Would you like to see the relevant data

[slim wedge]

And shoot

[split breach]

Precisely

Shot every last raiders guts into the ground

Except Fritsch since I had the option to keep him alive

[slim wedge]

Did the quest start prior to the start of killing the raiders or during or after?

[slim wedge]

Plus he has the acid soaker, the most op weapon in the game

[split breach]

@slim wedge a bit of a irrelevant question. But have you spoke to Fritsch before trying to get the quest to trigger because that could be an issue too

Y'know let him do his introduction stuff

[slim wedge]

I've spoken to him a lot, before open season, after open season and atm many times after trying to get the alarms to sound off at the arena

[split breach]

Hmmmm? This is deeper than I anticipated

[slim wedge]

Mostly trading tho, I did the dialogue background options but they haven't changed as far as I know

Imma check again, maybe the 2-3 weeks of in-game waiting has paid off

[split breach]

Based on what I remember. Amoral combat is like the most confusing to trigger and probably one of the glitchiest quests in Nuka world

[slim wedge]

He asked if I wanted to test out my skills then welcomed me back to the arcade. Is the first part related to the quest by any chance?

[split breach]

Test out your skills? Hmmm? I don't think so

[slim wedge]

I've noticed after realizing that I gained 20 lvs since beating Nuka World dlc. Trying to do a pacifist playthrough where I keep all non raider factions alive without Preston hating me forever

[split breach]

I think he says something about the alarms and alerting you that somebody made it through the gauntlet

[slim wedge]

Gotcha

Any way to get a Gatling laser besides the quest and the BoS Elder?

[split breach]

Unfortunately not

I know that proctor Teagan sells Gatling lasers but no legendary effects

https://youtu.be/xeoMQvKlGtw @lilac saffron this proves my point since you want to throw absurd accusations

So yes it does work even if enemies with the raiders

[slim wedge]

Noted, I'll try to get to that part of the main quest line so I can get one. The legendary effects would be nice but if it's either a BoS ending with Far Harbor bad ending or a glitchy Nuka world quest and a pacifist playthrough, I'll keep the peace till next playthrough

[split breach]

My suggestion is to leave Nuka world and come back to see if it triggers then

[slim wedge]

Aight

[split breach]

If that doesn't work then go through the video I sent earlier

[slim wedge]

Kk

Thanks for the assistance:)

[split breach]

No can do if you continue having problems then I suggest loading a previous save prior to the destruction of the raiders

[slim wedge]

That would be 20 lvs ago 😦

Oh well, I'll see if it's possible to split up the save files or something

[split breach]

Yeah I know it sucks let's hope it won't have to come to that

[slim wedge]

Maybe the patch would fix it when it's available lol

[split breach]

Yeah we'll have to see

[slim wedge]

Yup 👍

[proven bluff]

MM Shop

The old dinosaur sell it

But for quite a packet of caps

[slim wedge]

Shaw?

[proven bluff]

Also spawns in some of your settlement shops after lv60 IF they are Trader tier 5 and above

[proven bluff]

Yeah

[slim wedge]

Awesome, thanks for the tip

[proven bluff]

You can also craft it using the forge

Thought it’s the most expensive weapon to craft and i think needs Science 4 Gun Nut 4

MB only Science 4

It’ll arguably be cheaper to buy xD

[lilac saffron]

How do I get Ronnie Shaw to spawn? Do I just wait or do I have to rescue some more helpless villagers

[north needle]

wiki says its approximately three days after ending taking independence

[proven bluff]

Do we ever know what happened to the separated family?

[pliant grotto]

The Tournquists? Nah. We know they tried to flee when the Ameses’ old criminal pals attacked but that was over 200 years ago and there’s no trace of whether they made it out or where they went if they did.

[proven bluff]

And then there’s the mother’s holotape which makes it even more sad

[lilac saffron]

Thanks

[warped tiger]

(your welcome, the items you'll collect in the bundle is as fallows. "Green power armor paint". Was available last Christmas as well but it's available currently in the bundle. Along with the "Green Pipboy paint" which was too. While you will obtain 3 new paints I at least haven't seen before. "Ryles Rangers Pipboy, Armor and Weapon paints".)

This is a firm reminder to everyone who plays FALLOUT 4 and are collecting the Creation Club Content. Now's your chance to collect the ST. PATTIES DAY bundle available in the creation club interface.

Items given : Green power armor paint, Green Pipboy paint, Ryles Rangers Pipboy paint, Ryles Rangers armor paint, and Ryles Rangers weapon paint.

A value of {X amount} for Free! Tune in now before April to collect these wonderful items. While supplies last!

[lilac saffron]

Where can I get the under clothing the synth guards wear do I have to kill one or can I buy it from somewhere in the institute

[lilac saffron]

X6-88 has one in his inventory.

[lilac saffron]

Oh ok thank you. I want the institute to attack the castle but how do I anger them after working with them for a bit without shooting the place up

[proven bluff]

https://youtu.be/3iQDTZUJwb8

Couldn't find any videos about it, so i did mine

the silver shroud interaction is way too good

[high viper]

I need help
I moved a settler from outpost zimonja to red rocket but the settler isnt there
Every settler at red rocket is sleeping but 1 is missing

[lilac saffron]

It could take awhile since they have to walk all the way there.

[high viper]

Its been almost a month since i moved the settler

[lilac saffron]

Do they count in the settlement population?

In others words does the number settlers add up to the current population count in the settlement?

[high viper]

Yes

[lilac saffron]

It's possible they might have been killed on the way there then.

[high viper]

And for some reason my started crashing more frequently after i sent the settler

[lilac saffron]

That could be coincidence there are a lot of things can make this game crash. I once had a flying car do it thanks Havoc Physics.

[warped tiger]

The game needs some much needed polish. But it also needs some proformance fixes that would make the game smoother on potato computers.

[lilac saffron]

So true. Just glad my computer isn't a potato.

[warped tiger]

Then feel bad for me. I can't even open FO76 if my life was on the line. 3GB of shared graphics isn't enough to satisfy 2GB of Nvidia dedicated graphics. Why do people even have Nvidia or AMD as the basic graphics card base? Ever try to make your game actually FOR POTATOES rather than for rich people?

[lilac saffron]

Trust me I understand been there myself. And rich people wouldn't play this game their too busy driving their Ferrari's and playing golf.

[warped tiger]

I mean it as an expression. Because who in their right mind would spend 1K on a video card? I mean, hello. You can spend that grand on a car!

[lilac saffron]

Game enthusiasts mostly but in my case I have to have it for my workstation. I work in CNC development.

Good thing is my workstation PC can double as a gaming PC. And the company reimburses the cost.

Well half the cost anyway.

[kindred wasp]

Does anyone who plays on xbox and vanilla have performance issues when using a vertibird?

[lilac saffron]

Even some PC's have problems with it.

[kindred wasp]

My game crashes using one. And when it stops on the ground my fps drops considerably. I don't know about programming, but couldn't there be an option to remove the effects from it and just use it for Fast travel, for God's sake?

There's no way to simply send the pilot to fly over a terrain to use the Minigun, what's that for then? Is there really no way to enter Vertibird in first person and leave the player only seeing the panel and a static image of the flight until he arrives at the destination? The only thing I see is the map rendering or it freezing

[scarlet sky]

My biggest bugs i have with virtibirds are the minigun dissapearing. Graphical issues with distant obj. And then the super bug. Your companions falling out the DANG VIRTIBIRD WHEN YOU DOCK AT THE PRIDWEN!

[kindred wasp]

I saw these exact ones too

I think this is all an April Fool's joke. This game is in perfect condition, you can rarely see a bug and I'm seeing mirages

[ivory haven]

Hey Danta25. For further assistance you are welcome to post in the #1087805680829857822 section.

[proven bluff]

1080TI costs about $100 at best and will run most games

There’s nothing as “Making games for rich people” it’s how games develop, the more games have better, whether graphics or world, the more demanding they’ll be

[rough glade]

I am excited for that next gen update

[fading linden]

Do anyone know which legendary effect is good for a missile launcher?

[lilac saffron]

If you like VATS, Quickdraw. Otherwise missile launchers and Legendary effects don't go together very well. The "Targeting Computer" modification is better than any Legendary effect for a missile launcher.

[fading linden]

How about a two shot dude?

[lilac saffron]

Missile launchers don't naturally spawn with two-shot.

[fading linden]

🥲👍

[proven bluff]

Two shot missile launcher > Crippling > Vats enchanted

[fading linden]

Ok dude 🙏🙏

[lilac saffron]

Two Shot doesn't spawn naturally on missile launchers, can only be added with console commands. And Crippling is weird because it requires a direct impact to actually work.

[proven bluff]

Yeah, i meant instigating not two shot xD
Crippling is hard to use, but if used right, will almost one shot anyone due to limb loss

It will also render death claws and ghouls useless

[wind ermine]

What's the best light for a giant room?

[proven bluff]

I prefer the Florescent light

[kindred wasp]

Does anyone know how much damage the character inflicts unarmed

No perks, with a strength of 10 points

[lilac saffron]

If it uses one of the formulas as previous games where it was an actual skill. FO3 and NV it was 2 + (Endurance x 2)+(Luck/2). In FO1 65% + (Agility + Strength) / 2, in FO2 30% + (2% x (Agility + Strength) ).

I didn't see a formula for FO4. So it's probably based on what type of melee weapon you use and perks you have as things like the Deathclaw Gauntlet, Baton, Knuckles, etc......is considered unarmed combat by the game.

[sturdy viper]

Go get in a fist fight with a deathclaw, if you win it's pretty good.

[lilac saffron]

I tried that once just for giggles

[sturdy viper]

You got to take out the knees.

Then run around and take it from behind....

Donkey punch it

[lilac saffron]

Too bad you can't kick it between the legs no matter how big they are they is going down.

[sturdy viper]

Dyno wont erase those, but lunar will.

Yes legs and kicks should have been fighting animation. A V.A.T.S. kill with a kick between the legs, would have been hilarious, kind of transferred up to the head exploding like a Mortal Kombat kill.

[lilac saffron]

I think the only game I seen that allowed something similar was MGS2 Sons of Liberty were you could target and shoot enemies between the legs. As it was considered a valid target.

[sturdy viper]

Now that you say that I am surprised in GTA didn't have that way to steal a car.

[zinc ridge]

oops that didn't work on this super villan - must be a eunuch - run

[sturdy viper]

Nope he just had a nice Cod piece

[proven bluff]

I went unarmed build

You mostly relay on Vats for the Paralyzing punch

You can virtually one shot enemies with the right clothing and items

[sturdy viper]

Especially when you sneak up and take them from behind.

[zinc ridge]

kick him in the crotch then find out he's using a bladed/spiked cod piece

seen raiders have those

[sturdy viper]

You're looking too close

[lilac saffron]

Well on another note I just sniped a deathclaw and his tail flew off 😆

[sturdy viper]

Insert a cat watching gif at anytime... then again it is the weekend.

[zinc ridge]

you don't check out the armor you're considering wearing 🤣

[lilac saffron]

Nah I don't use armor my Char just runs around in their........

[sturdy viper]

You said it was a spiked Raider Cod piece they were wearing.... not yours.

[crisp stream]

if deathclaws are sooo good

Where's the Lifeclaws at?

[sturdy viper]

Trapped in the museum with Preston on my playthroughs.

[sturdy viper]

Have you ever tamed a deathclaw and have them follow you, that is some slightly Awesome backup.

[crisp stream]

I have not

[lilac saffron]

I have about 6 of them in Sanctuary their real good at decimating settlement attackers.

[lilac saffron]

The first Robocop game, on the Amiga/Atari 500’s had the sequence from the film, where he takes out the bad guy through the women’s skirt…lol

[zinc ridge]

guess you make your own raider armor

[sturdy viper]

No I usually go with Gunner

[proven bluff]

Death Claws are effective against everything except Yao Guais

[lilac saffron]

And Behemoths and Mirelurk Queens.

[proven bluff]

There’s also the power triangle
Behemoth > Death claws > Queens > Behemoths, but sometimes a death claw could actually kill a behemoth if the behemoth misses his stun

[crisp stream]

and tunnelers, if they existed in east coast :p

[proven bluff]

Idk if a death claw could win against the fog crawler, but the crawler doesn’t have enough damage to kill a death claw

[lilac saffron]

An Enraged Fog Crawler can kill a death claw.

[crisp stream]

okay, now here's the real question

Deathclaw vs. Those stupid tanky crickets in Nuka World

I think we all know who wins here 😼

[lilac saffron]

Mmmmm crispy cave cricket

[proven bluff]

I think crickets are bugged

Because when they attack they register multiple hits instead of one

[sturdy viper]

Cave crickets vs NV Casadors??? One flies, one is on the ground... as soon as the cricket hops game over?

[proven bluff]

Crickets have as much Hp as death claws

[sturdy viper]

Yeah but the cazadors had that poison factions, plus I think they had about the hit points as a deathclaw

[lilac saffron]

No they just have a very high DR.

[crisp stream]

Yea, like i said, tanky as hell

[sturdy viper]

Yes they are... most shotgun blast pointed at the floor will take out any enemy.. but not a damn cave cricket.

[proven bluff]

They have 600 HP

[lilac saffron]

Yeah they have as much DR as Ballistic Weave MKV

[proven bluff]

That’s as much as a Tier 2 Death claw

[lilac saffron]

Glowing crickets have 750

[sturdy viper]

They are the cazadors of Fallout 4, hit you in swarms.

[lilac saffron]

Close but a tier 2 deathclaw or Alpha Deathclaw has over 800

[proven bluff]

Oh right, mb

Thought they have half as much DR as death claws

I think the reason cave crickets one shot is not only do they attack multiple times per animation, but they often all attack at once

[lilac saffron]

They have as much DR as regular deathclaw and a little less than half the ER.

[proven bluff]

They have 100 DR? I thought it was 60

[lilac saffron]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Cave_cricket_(Nuka-World)#Cave_cricket Only 3 variants have less than 100 DR.

I thought they all had it.

Although the legendary creature that is a total joke would be the Legendary Radroach.

[magic current]

Ok so covenants mission can i ignore it and just kill everyone take the workshop then go to the compound and release stocktons daughter will stocktons dialouge change or will it be the same? as if i went trough the covenet quest

[warped tiger]

It's the last day of March guys! Tune into creation club on fallout 4 to obtain a free bundle featuring 5 different colors! The st. Patties Day bundle features green power armor and pip boy paints, as well as the Rylies Rangers Pipboy, regular armor and weapons colors for free!

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[sturdy viper]

Pete and Repeat were standing on a bridge Pete jumped off who's left? At least we won't see it again tomorrow.

[proven bluff]

Yeah, Stockton doesn’t know and probably doesn’t care about Covenant’s people

[sturdy viper]

Even better news, the Fallout 4 Next Gen update releases tomorrow.

[proven bluff]

Almost had me fooled

[mellow marsh]

Okay

I have an important question

I seen that you go to the institute and meet father (haven’t played that part yet)

Do you HAVE to kill father?

[lilac saffron]

No.

[mellow marsh]

Okay, I’m just making sure, I was gonna be like . Hell nah I ain’t killing him if I don’t have to lol

Ty✌️🥰

[lilac saffron]

Np

[primal mountain]

Grab the Father Companion mod on Nexus and have Daddy with you forever.

[proven bluff]

Let Natural selection do its work

[lilac saffron]

[lilac saffron]

Well since Father or Shaun is your child don't you mean have your Son with you forever.

[proven bluff]

https://youtu.be/0VxLQZPqI2M

The SS when he marries Curie

[lilac saffron]

SS????

[proven bluff]

Sole Survivor

[kindred wasp]

Hard to imagine you haven't seen a Leon outfit in the fallout mods yet. I think that with the Remake they will appear a lot

[grim urchin]

We need a split screen multiplayer version of Fallout 4

[lilac saffron]

I honestly think a 2 player co-op version would be cool. Not split screen though.

[proven bluff]

Normal co-op would be great for Fo4, make it so that each one choose their own faction and it’s a perma death, the winner would have their faction take the ending

[scarlet sky]

I dont think id mind

[warped carbon]

Eh it doesn't seem like a good idea

I mean in my eyes, Fallout 76 was a big failure ngl (multiplayer? Seriously? Bethesda, didn't you think about griefing?)

[lilac saffron]

Griefing isn't that big of an issue in Fo76.

[proven bluff]

Yeah and Co-op is selected people not randos

[dusty tendon]

Does anyone know a way where I can farm ledgendary items on Survival

[scarlet sky]

No one does the bounty system right

[dusty tendon]

No one really does do the bounty system whatsoever

[rocky bluff]

Rockstar sure didn’t when they made GTA Online or Red Dead Online.

[warped carbon]

Lol

[scarlet sky]

Plenty of games do the bounty hunter system. The problem is people are babies about it.

[proven bluff]

Coup Manor

The family at the bottom have a guaranteed legendary

[kindred wasp]

Do any of you miss a kill system guaranteeing stealth? like the games where you press a button and immobilize a target. Or do you think this wouldn't be cool in fallout? It wouldn't necessarily need to be like the older Assassins Creed where anyone could be killed regardless of level, but more like Assassins Creed Odyssey where you only stealth kill if you have the damage. I know something like that exists in 4, the damage multiplier in stealth, but still the game doesn't feel like it was well designed for creative area clearing in stealth. Maybe moving bodies and whistling to get attention doesn't go with the game?

We have something tactical about being able to command companions however we want, but I miss distractions and unarmed kills like every other game. Maybe they didn't put it because they didn't want fallout to become full fps

[lilac saffron]

It would be cool to be able to synchronize takedowns with a companion and stuff but whistling, moving bodies and assassination kind of things I feel like only work in games like far cry or assassins creed. Not fallout/elder scrolls

[kindred wasp]

I agree

[lilac saffron]

No, I don't miss it. I think it's more rewarding to earn that ability rather than to just start with it. I much prefer AC Odyssey's stealth system, and I don't think 4 is really that hard to become a stealth god in anyway. Just invest enough in Agility in the beginning.

[kindred wasp]

It's a good point. I think I went too far with Move Bodies, but a cinematic melee kill system I still think would be great. Not like the finishes we have, but well-crafted stuff. For example, in Corvega there are many interesting points such as windows, stairs and so on. I think using the environment on kills would be a cool addition. By the way, is there anything you miss about this game? that could be implemented but for some reason it wasn't

[kindred wasp]

In fact, I messed up all over. I don't want to turn the game into farcry or COD guys, sorry. I meant that I miss more creative stealth options. I expressed myself badly. I would like some attention in this area, although I never play like that. That's what I meant, that it was better worked and gave a vast opportunity for options on how to interact with each situation

[lilac saffron]

Even the finishing moves in Skyrim we’re better than in fo4

[kindred wasp]

imagine Corvega or the Gunners' courtyard. How could we interact with them in RPG mode? How about a perk check to short out a lightbox if we have the ability? Now the place is dark, and it helps you to be stealthy. Things like that, which are tactics and RPGs at the same time. Would you like it?

[lilac saffron]

Has someone created a mod like this? I'm more curious whether this is even doable in CE.

[atomic narwhal]

yo I just found something weird and new to me about fallout I've been playing it since 2015 on ps4 and pc and now that I'm on pc I just redownloaded it and for some reason, on the main menu both MODS and CREATIONCLUB are greyed out and I cant access them, the AUDIO in Settings is greyed out with a loading icon next to it but it not loading it at all, and when i try to open I a save I know I have since I put a name "STAR" next to I so I know that its the last main save I cannot get into the save, and the last and most weird thing is that when I open the game and go to click EXIT and CONFIRM it freezes up and does not close until I go to task manager and force end task, but in the main menu where it says ADDONS when I click and then click ESC(BACK) it completely closes the game immediately. I know that maybe one or a couple things may be on my fault or end but I've read some redit post of the same people having problems with the main menu of very late 2022 about similar stuff and I haven't found an answer I wanna ask if anyone knows anything even just one problem to fix that I can do or at least maybe why the menu is glitched for me.

[lilac saffron]

If you're on Steam did you try to Verify the game files if you got it at the Microsoft Store you'll probably need to get a hold of MS for support. You can also try in #1087805680829857822

[atomic narwhal]

i got it from steam thank you for the help ill see if it works

[latent knot]

can soemone help me with fallout 4 crashing ive tried everythinh

i did the verify on steam

downloaded latest direct x

[lilac saffron]

Just remembered it could also be your anti-virus. I know at least one company that has had problems with their AV interfering with games. But if you only use Windows Defender then it's not an AV issue.

[latent knot]

all that stuff

[lilac saffron]

Try in #1087805680829857822 sounds like it be more than one thing going on.

What graphics card do you have by the way Nvidias Turing and Ampere cards need INI tweaks to run the game right.

[knotty granite]

Guys the update got announced!!!

April fools 😊

[lilac saffron]

Your supposed to wait until people take the bait before saying that.

[knotty granite]

Nobody had responded

And I was about to leave so I was like ehhh might as well just say it

Just act like I fooled you lmao

[lilac saffron]

Uh yeah it's takes longer than few seconds to get a bite especially today considering the day it is.

[knotty granite]

Act like I got you

[proven bluff]

Fooled again

Thought the update is finally here

😔

[knotty granite]

https://tenor.com/view/hhgf-gif-25031041

[atomic narwhal]

i legit just uninstalled and installed and its fixed lol

[lilac saffron]

Glad you got working.

[proven bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825349606098337802/1091886303257296927/image.png

that's how good i am at the game 😎

[marble veldt]

I think Bethesda could’ve done more with the pipe weapon concept

If only they allowed us to go gun nuts

[simple ginkgo]

i think they could do better weapons in 4 i mean look at 3 there gun are very good looking

[flint nest]

OP players would never have When Freedom Calls cause screw Preston

[proven bluff]

Yeah, i missed not being able to hit enemies who are right in front of me, need that mechanic back

[simple ginkgo]

vats in 4 cool and all

[tall bluff]

I think crafted weapons would be a great concept. I briefly tried out 76, and they incorporated that somewhat into the gameplay.

It would be cool if you were the only human, could only scavenge pieces, and had to cobble together your own weapons. They don't break apart, but you're constantly working on them and upgrading them. You form a bond to this weapon.

Fable 3 tried something similar, but it didn't work out as well.

Fallout 4 also has a similar system, but nothing's stopping you from uprooting all the mods from your gun and putting it on that legendary gun with exploding bullets.

But, imagine having to scrimp together all the pieces to make a gun, and it's actually a big deal when you unlock even a 32 pistol.

[empty fox]

is there some high quality checklist for fo4? I only found one on nexus, which some people commented that it lacks something

[lilac saffron]

I always thought the implementation of pipe weapons was interesting but done poorly. They're intentionally the lowest tier of weapon. We should be forced to start out with them. Instead we're handed a 10mm pistol in the very beginning, which can be one of the best weapons in the game with the right perks and upgrades.

And it's not like the ammo for it is unplentiful.

[warped carbon]

Oh, really? I have: over 25,000 hours on record, beaten the game 50 times, have never played it the same time twice, AND modded ALL the legendary weapons. TOP THAT

[warped carbon]

Pipe guns can be devastating with the right mods

[lilac saffron]

Sure, but there's no incentive to use them when a 10mm is right there.

[warped carbon]

Fallout 4 needs to have the anti-material rifle, the 9mm pistol, and the 12.7mm pistol.

And the CC 'Classic' 10mm pistol looks nothing like the original, like why the frick does it have a foregrip?

My brain is just broke on this

[lilac saffron]

It does look like the original 10mm pistol though?

It's talking about the Fallout classics 10mm pistol. Not 3 and New Vegas.

[warped carbon]

Also, I'm not hating, but why was Bethesda hating against righties? Literally all the conventional ballistic guns are made for left-handed people.

Left-handed bolt actions, left-handed machine guns.

Why?

[proven bluff]

People got crazy over X-01s being in the commonwealth, what do you think they’ll do when anti-material or 9mm is in the commonwealth

Also in Fo4 each weapon tend to have it’s own gameplay, which means they have to limit the number of weapons, but in NV most weapons play exactly the same

Thought it would’ve been nice if they made 9mm a modification of the 10mm

But it’s honestly unnecessary

[lilac saffron]

This is a good point that I never considered before. 🤔

[tall bluff]

I wish we had more improvised weapons. Like the Nuka Breaker- I mean Broadsider is super cool.

Improvised and useful. Like, imagine beaning raiders with a cast iron frying pan like in Tangled.

[proven bluff]

We have Junk Jet, Cryolator (Arguable since it’s design seems more in line rather than handmade), Broadsider, Sheishkebab, Bowling Canon, Nuka Cola gun

It would’ve been cool if we could develop our own weapon

Maybe in Fo5 we could get that

[tall bluff]

I know, but I want even goofier. Like if the Commie Whacker could be upgraded to the point of one shotting death claws.

[proven bluff]

Explosive Commie whacker

[lilac saffron]

Fallout 4 wont launch

[vast wave]

Try deleting and reinstalling

[lilac saffron]

ive tried everything

[vast wave]

Clear your cached data then reinstall the whole game again

[lilac saffron]

i legit did. updated game drivers and directx and verified game files plus ran it as admin

[vast wave]

This issue is usually caused by having too much memory being used on mods. Could try deleting unused save files and high memory using mods such as workshop mods.

[proven bluff]

What device?

[lilac saffron]

pc and i checked that no mods are being used

[proven bluff]

Gpu/Cpu/Ram?

[lilac saffron]

ram is 8 gb gpu is nvidia 1650

[vast wave]

Should be working that's plenty

[lilac saffron]

more than enough for fo4

[bright sparrow]

any tips to not get your game crashed on boston?

[proven bluff]

Get a better device

[vast wave]

Your computer hot? check your afterburner if you have it.

[lilac saffron]

thats what has me so confused bc the launcher works but it black screen crashes when i hit play

and my computer is cool to the touch

[proven bluff]

Any other game have the same error?

[lilac saffron]

funny enough only fo4 has this issue

evden heavily modded Cyberpunk works fine

[proven bluff]

Steam, GoG or Microsoft Fo4?

[lilac saffron]

steam

[proud parcel]

okay so uhhhh i was doing that big lobster queen quest and killed it. Game told me to build a generator so i did. But i accidently clicked too fast and now there's a generator inside the walls. What the heck.. why would the game even allow me to build inside the walls? How do i remove it

[kindred wasp]

Print

[north needle]

Hi! i want covenant as a place for my companions. I just did its quest siding against them, all i need to do now is to return and kill them. I wanna know if i can kill them and pile the bodies in a corner and they will stay there? or should i lure all of them to a corner and kill them there so they respawn somehow hide? im confused about this mechanic.

[lilac saffron]

The bodies never despawn, so if you don't want a pile of corpses in your settlement, drag them outside.

[north needle]

nice so they will no "teleport" to its death place some time after if i pile them somewhere? good

i remember ghouls in sunshine tidding do teleport back at its place some time later even if i carry them somewhere

[kindred wasp]

Have any of you ever seen white squares appear? usually in places with light

[proven bluff]

We need Oxhorn as the DJ in Fallout 5

[proven bluff]

Yeah, common bug, dw about it

[kindred wasp]

I'm actually relieved. I thought it was just me

[leaden haven]

hello!

[fervent pumice]

Need help logging into mods from the fallout 4 main menu. Keep getting "this operation could not be complete". Does anybody know how to work around it?

im on a ps5

any body have any suggesttions?

[proven bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825349606098337802/1092244354271301744/image.png

best Review ever lol

[lilac saffron]

It is a pretty great review.

[solid pulsar]

Mutant Hounds confirmed https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a43457220/chernobyl-dogs-dna-evolution/

[young kraken]

NO

[lilac saffron]

Haha i remember seeing that review years ago lol. Altho given that date someones copied the original lol

[lilac saffron]

Hello

[warped carbon]

Fallout 5 needs to be a thing RIGHT NOW

[lilac saffron]

I heard it is in development, but I didn

I didn't fact check it, so I have no clue if it's true; be cool though

[tall bluff]

It's gonna be a while before we see either a Fallout or Elder Scrolls game.

Pretty sure that's why ESO and 76 were released so close together, so that they could give more content for each franchise while the series proper is in hiatus.

[lilac saffron]

I just started playing Fallout 4 in survival mode and wow

That first death claw, I can't kill it, and I keep going thirsty, tired and just all terrors are coming at my character

[tall bluff]

My advice, skip Concord, and head straight to Diamond City, or stay in Sanctuary and grind some levels.

[lilac saffron]

My only thing is I don't want to break the game by doing that. I skipped Codsworth and went to dogmeat but then I broke the game doing that.

So, is it safe to just skip Concord and go to diamond city?

[tall bluff]

Yeah, nothing's forcing you to. The game just nudges you towards the minutemen stuff for a tutorial. I've skipped it in a few playthroughs.

[lilac saffron]

That Death claw is just tough, though. I am not good enough to kill it. I almost died in Vault 111 on survival

[proven bluff]

Yes, his voice is soothing

[young kraken]

doesnt mean he has to be dj

[proven bluff]

He’s one of the content creators most known for their fallout stuff and helped share fallout and explain lore

[lilac saffron]

Wait who

[proven bluff]

On another Note, a Pet molerat called Jabo should be in Fo5 😂😂😂

[proven bluff]

Oxhorn

[lilac saffron]

I didn't know Fallout had such a big backstory to it

It's cool though to read about

[proven bluff]

Oxhorn has a lot of videos explaining back stories and events

[lilac saffron]

That's cool. How much of the backstory is made from the game, and how much is just imagination?

[tribal sky]

Does the game disc ever blink then return to normal on Xbox series x

[proven bluff]

Most are from the game and small portion are explanations/pov

[tribal sky]

Does the game have a blinking problem

[proven bluff]

No, I don’t think so

[kindred wasp]

My game crashes going to Far Harbor for the first time. Game on Survival and a Save was made by the game just before or at the time of the crash. Has anyone seen this?

[proven bluff]

Any crash indicators?

[kindred wasp]

No, no fps drop

Just insta crash

[proven bluff]

Delete far harbor ESM then reinstall it ig

[kindred wasp]

I played again going through the same part and I didn't crash this time

[proven bluff]

Eh, probably PC was feeling under the weather that time

[kindred wasp]

I play on xbox, but that might have been it

[lilac saffron]

This is irrelevant but I just made a Stockholm Syndrome by Muse cover and it's time to do vocals. That was just some good news. Anyways, has anyone done survival mode in fallout yet??

I just started it and it is kicking me to death.. any tips??

[kindred wasp]

Run

[lilac saffron]

Good deal haha, I keep trying to fight everyone, and I keep dying

[kindred wasp]

I use a lot of Psyco and Jet, in addition to nuka quantum and power armor. You must get enough Fusion Cores by joining the brotherhood. If your game is not poorly optimized like the console version, using Vertibird for locomotion is good, and for saving it might be an idea to take as many settlements as possible and turn them into Outposts

[lilac saffron]

I heard codsworth is good because he doesn't need stimpacks which may be helpful

[wind ermine]

High endurance + moving target perk + 10% faster movement armor has worked pretty well for me, why fight and waste ammo and stimpacks when you can just run away?

[proven bluff]

He needs robot kit, which is more expensive but doesn’t requires a perk to create

[proud grove]

Hey everybody
I've been playing Fallout 4 for quite a long time trying to figur out how to get all trophies but everytime I'm on one something ist bugging so how can this problem bei fixed without using mods because trophies are deactivevated once you activate a mod
Does anybody have an answer to this or could help me out? I've even tried updating the game but my Playstation said there wouldn't be an update available

[proven bluff]

There’s a mod that turns on achievements

[lilac saffron]

Only for PC iirc.

[proven bluff]

F

[proven bluff]

First its best to try and google the bugs, see if you can fix them, if not, open a ticket to the support team and hope they are able to guide you onto fixing the bugs that you encounter

[proud grove]

Okay, thanks for the advice
Whats up with that mod that turns the achievements back in? Could you give me the name please?

[proven bluff]

PC only sadly

[lilac saffron]

Irrelevant but I finished a music cover I was doing but anyways, time to try to survive fallout 4 survival mode once more. I love how you can only save by sleeping in a bed

[proven bluff]

Got any link to a preview of it?

[lilac saffron]

Anytime you visit a settlement area, scrap EVERYTHING, also get charisma up so you can get the perk allowing you to link your settlements. Having that supply chain is very handy. Other than that, i find you either need to build like a survival tank, ie lots of endurance, and perks to combat environment, or build sneak with killing power, so you can take what you need 😄 Enjoy it anyhow, its a far more involved game than on the conventional highest difficulty.

[lilac saffron]

So like, a lot of you may find me dumb for this, because it was a dumb move, but I set my starting charisma to 10, strength to 10 and like something else to 3 and left it all at one. I can persuade people though

[lilac saffron]

Here! https://vocaroo.com/1chp9uXhb77d - It is “Stockholm Syndrome” by Muse. The piano and drums plus the bass is MIDI, while the guitar is something I recorded and it is real. I still need to do vocals.

How does it sound so far?

[lilac saffron]

Haha, dont worry, you can always slowly add to the other stats, might take a while tho 😄 alternatively, restart, if you havnt done much yet, might be a better idea tbf. I do recommend CHarisma 6 tho as then you can straight away make supply lines. Also get each settlement up and running as much as possible before you move on, once you have a bunch linked, it makes life easier in survival mode.

[tall bluff]

I will say: never set any special stat to 10 in 3, NV, or 4, because there's always chances to boost your stat one extra point.

In 3 and 4, it's the Bobbleheads, and in NV, it's the New Vegas Clinic.

[proven bluff]

Unlike Fo3 and NV

In fo4 you can get your stat over 10 base

[tribal sky]

Does fallout 4 bugs that blink your screen on Xbox series x

[split gyro]

anyone else got a issue where ricky dalton is immortal? 💀

[proven bluff]

Why tf are you mad that he’s immortal, dude’s ready to sacrifice himself for you

[cloud hazel]

In survival i just roll high int/agil character then mow down everything that opposes me(using power armor) You have to be strategic and waste a lot of time moving junk from base to base but with dilligence it works. Man, now I have to move all of my stuff from diamond city to the mechanists place 😦 Being one of the examples of stuff you run into. I try not to go BOS path because getting free t60b seems a bit easy, but I'm a masocist

hmm, should I spoiler that?

[somber sage]

This is rather interesting. Either there is something here or BGS is just trolling: https://steamdb.info/app/377160/history/

NewVegas2 huh.

[cloud hazel]

I've always been curious if a melee non power armor build is viable for survival but every time I ask the channel becomes a deserted wasteland 😛

[night whale]

Has anyone ever had an issue with the mission of Stop the Raiding at Starlight Drive In where a singular mole rat spawns in and the mission doesn’t complete when you kill it?

[proven bluff]

Ah, it’s gonna be a riot

[proven bluff]

Yes it is

In fact, Melee Power Armor Sneak builds deal the highest damage in the game

Instigating Disciples Knife is guaranteed to one shot even modded bosses and like 1/8 HP Liberty Prime

At the maximum possible Strength without Gragnok’s clothing (25), you can hit 2.5x more damage from strength, 2.0x from big leagues, 0.25x from Blitz, 10x from Ninja, 3x from Yao Guai Ribs and 0.25x (total) from Psycho with a base damage of 35 w/ignore 30% Armor, 35% bonus limb damage and 2x bonus damage from Instigating you are looking at a whooping

You are dealing a direct 22148 damage that ignores 30% armor

I forgot many multipliers as well

[cloud hazel]

I may have to try that my next playthrough

[radiant hamlet]

Guys, guys.

I have tried Whispering Hills. While it does bring the experience of Silent Hill into Fallout, I just have a few criticisms. Mostly minor ones.

[proven bluff]

Tell them, i always wanted to try that mod

[radiant hamlet]

1. Incompatibility with Darker Nights. I play on PC, and I have Darker Nights load after Whispering Hills. They just don't seem to mesh together well.

2. Lack of spawns in the Commonwealth.

[split gyro]

he’s hostile because i don’t like the railroad

[proven bluff]

Isn’t there a way to increase spawns? Also it’s strange since almost all new enemies mods make their spawns like 10x as much as the base game

[radiant hamlet]

That may be on the designer's choice.

[gloomy gull]

Why no one is talking about this

[proven bluff]

We don’t want to have hope

[brisk creek]

In survival it's a very difficult curve to get ahead with a mellee build as enemies do enormous damage.

Its definitely doable, but maybe with a few mods that allow auto save

[tall bluff]

In survival, food is your best friend. It doesn't throw stimpaks at you the way regular does

Also, Fallout 4 just has a really good cooking system in general.

Why yes, I do want to roast this molerat meat and make something that both heals me for as much as a stimpak and and also gives me an AP bonus.