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tardy shoal
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I sort of agree but not 100% because IIRC they haven't been using them as anything but jump packs, really

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maybe, but from my own experience making props, it largely boils down to cardboard and worbla. bulky yes, but heavy, not necessarily

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worbla, clay, foam, thermoplastics and joinery. it adds up but at the end of the day, they're hollow

woven scaffold
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The suits themselves are already poorly balanced and are very heavy. Wouldn’t take much to tip them over.

tardy shoal
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trashing decades of jet pack IP to make the costumes less bulky doesn't make sense to me

woven scaffold
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I wouldn’t say decades. It only appeared barely in Fallout 4 and more commonly in Fallout 76.

tardy shoal
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that's fair

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the way I see it, it would be a decision that contradicts itself - they worked so hard to honor the lore in, like, every other way lol

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after reading the wiki the answer is probably way more obvious...

the jet pack scenes were filmed using a LITERAL jet pack and pilot from Gravity Industries. The jets are on the arms, not the back... no tether, no crane. Since they emphasized practical effects / minimal CGI, it's probably not a stretch to assume they wanted to maintain the realistic motions of the actor-pilot. Thus, Iron Man jet pack was born.

All I can say is, I hope it gets retconned or otherwise explained at some point.

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smoky hazel
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That is sick

humble prairie
quaint onyx
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Some on help me

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Idk but I got the replica pip boy

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It's not trunin back on

hollow oasis
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LOL I keep seeing people talking about ||dinkys position in Novac. Like how boone and Manny served as lifeguards for the patrons in the pool because dinky is facing the pool. ||

autumn jay
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I watched the first episode and I loved it. I won’t say spoilers but it’s a nice introduction to new Vegas.

grizzled gate
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||Hit the ground running with Big Iron||

tardy shoal
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that could make sense though like Iron Man for short flights / hops, actual jet pack for sustained flight. or BIG hops

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the jet packs in FO4 werent very prolific so it kinda supports the idea that the Iron Man version is an invention of the Brotherhood Scribes

tardy shoal
autumn jay
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I should’ve been more clear lol

tardy shoal
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eh that's on me

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like new vegas isnt really relevant in S1E1

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either way agreed what a banger of a premiere. I wish all the episodes were released at once.

torpid ermine
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The house always wins huh.

torpid ermine
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||Kinda wondering what happened with Novac and the rest of NV considering Novac is empty and was filled with the Khans||

lofty prairie
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Actually I think it was the fiends as doesn’t Khans get sent to some land under the NCR

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Either way a genocide does happen at Novac

torpid ermine
humble prairie
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||So I assume we can make the assumption that hoover dam went cablooey if house is alive||

torpid ermine
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Idk, if that was the case NV would be flooded no?

torpid ermine
humble prairie
torpid ermine
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But tbf I did a wildcard ending almost every single time and it was fire

torpid ermine
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But I'm pretty sure Hoover dam is still up

gray badger
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Are... Are we getting the Enclave this season for real?

No real use for the Star Spangled Banner in this kinda orchestral rendition otherwise

coral juniper
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Unless it's used for a flashback scene.

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If it is the Enclave hopefully it's just them showing up and then proceeding to die entirely

steep cypress
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It's just another variation of the BoS theme

More specifically, it's a remix of the theme that played when Max was "saving" Lucy in Vault 4

coral juniper
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Which ya know given their track record lmao yea

lofty prairie
coral juniper
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And then they die

lofty prairie
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lol

coral juniper
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that's the issue with them constantly coming back

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Their win record was against a defenseless vault and an impoverished tribe

lofty prairie
coral juniper
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Not really, they only had 1000 people on the oil rig, unknown amount on Navarro and both ended up being defeated. Then Raven Rock, the satellite relay, most of their troops in the field and of course the mobile fortress. They'd be handfuls of remnants instead of a serious fighting force. Which ya know given in Fallout 4's update they're specifically called remnants

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Oh yea they also lost there

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It's about time they just canonically killed them off

lofty prairie
coral juniper
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They're fascists, they never learn

lofty prairie
lofty prairie
gray badger
gray badger
lofty prairie
gray badger
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I get we all want our own theories to be true but like come on, the Enclave are the foremost enemy of every fallout game in a way, either directly or indirectly through past actions.

They do have to die at some point, but that point is basically the finale of the franchise

lofty prairie
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Imo the enclave are just as much as an enemy as the institute and whenever they’ve been destroyed permanently, and come back it’s just a lazy writing bit

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I understand they are big bad but they have literally been decimated to like 2 dudes now no way they are fully back to FO2 enclave

gray badger
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I don't see it as poor writing, but as a fictitious exaggeration of past realities, which is pretty much what fallout is about at its core

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It's satirical SciFi exaggeration

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At the end of the day, the enclave is based on "shadow government" plans over the last half century

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Especially those plans devised during the early cold war

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It would make sense for both House to have an interest in enclave developed tech, which I think those Mind control devices are, and for Hank to be working with them to control wasteland creatures and "mutated humans"

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House, not out of a desire for control, but a desire to understand progress in certain tech fields and to know what his potential opponents are up to

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Also, in the season preview trailer posted today, did I see a brotherhood flag with a minuteman logo beside it when Kumil's character appeared in the hanger?

gray badger
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In game and in the show so far

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Sorry I'm drunk and rambling and just nerding out everyone

lofty prairie
spark nova
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Minutemen/BoS ending canon?

lofty prairie
gray badger
lofty prairie
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Would be fire to see both factions working together

spark nova
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Preston Garvey and Sentinel-General Nate the Rake step off a vertibird

lofty prairie
spark nova
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the toy of Filly was under attack and Preston marked it on your map

lofty prairie
grizzled gate
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Honestly I like the idea of every surviving Enclave... enclave no matter how small thinking they're the last one left, getting a big head about it, and trying to conquer the wasteland.

spark nova
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town lol

lofty prairie
nova mango
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Just finished season 2 episode 1 (ik im late on it) this is so peak

tranquil matrix
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So let me ask now because I see conflicting information, but will the TV show "canonize" an ending or no? It does taken place AFTER New Vegas right?

orchid lake
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Murica raaaaaaaaaaaah (JK JK)

nova mango
orchid lake
lofty prairie
red forge
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All we know so far is that it seems House is still alive.

tranquil matrix
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Yeah the season ain't done yet right? Ehh silly question.

red forge
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Not a silly question, just can't be answered yet.

lofty prairie
lofty prairie
red forge
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All we know so far is that Cooper has met up with House both pre and post ghoulification.

lofty prairie
steep cypress
steep cypress
lofty prairie
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This may actually sound dumb but I couldn’t understand from your text, is it fallout related? Ik I sound extremely like a doofus rn im just so confused

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Ok mb, and writers, what type skilled or anything like that?

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Ok

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Good to know

runic swan
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So I hear they totally screwed up mr house?

red forge
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Please elaborate.

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People are making assumptions way too soon. We don't yet know the full direction the show will take with lore. People can make speculation, but treat it as that.

zinc temple
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Yeah I haven't really seen evidence of that other than there's two actors playing him but I just assume either one is Anthony his brother or a body double bc house was notoriously paranoid prewar

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Well, and the fact that he's alive in general bc that does totally invalidate any possibility of a yes man ending being canon bc killing house is literally the very first thing yes man has you do

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But what have you heard?

red forge
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It wouldn't be the first time any TV/movie franchise changes actors. GoT had 2 other actors playing Gregor Clegane/The Mountain, for instance, before Hafthor was "it" in the end.

zinc temple
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Yeah but the new guy is also playing along side the old actor they're both in the first episode of the show

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It's not just like an outright replacement I can't remember which one of the actors but in an interview one of them said that his character is more or less based on the other's?

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Hence why I'm saying body double at the moment

red forge
woven scaffold
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I don’t think they changed House. We literally had no references for what he was like before the war outside of what we hear from third parties. It’s just fleshing out info we don’t have. I think people just don’t like the direction they went.

A problem is over the decade, people have built up a preconceived notion of what this character should be in their own minds, which was never actually real.

zinc temple
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Cause in the last season only the one actor was used, but in episode one they both appear

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One being the brain chip flashback guy and the other appearing in the ad on on the TV playing in the same scene

red forge
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Suppose we'll find out 1 way or another.

zinc temple
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But house did also have a brother, Anthony House who hated him and intentionally tried to push him out of the family

red forge
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The only other thing that's most implied at the moment is House survives, and the Legion are still a thing, but based on the trailer snippets alone, we don't yet know of timelines.

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Cooper meets House both pre and post ghoulification, but that's all we know of that so far.

zinc temple
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But it's implied that Anthony basically just went insane so it's unlikely we'll see him post war

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Either way I'm extremely eager to see where things go

runic swan
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I heard they had Mr House doing things he would of never done like mind control devices when he abhors slavery, making him more like a cartoony super villain than the calculating kind of person he was?

glacial bridge
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Like, he turned H&H into a giant escape room basically

woven scaffold
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It’s super super unlikely he’s Anthony House. Especially since the director said they both were Robert, both actors said they both were, and the S1 actor has said in interviews that he’s playing a body double.

frozen badger
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I dont think Anthony has anything to do with this

woven scaffold
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And Howard Hughes, who House is based on, used body doubles (allegedly) in real life.

frozen badger
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||the house on tv and in the vault tec meeting is an actor, the house doing "market research" is either the real house or another double specifically for testing the mind control chips|| (my thoughts)

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||i think all of this will be cleared up when Cooper meets House, he might say something like "you look different in person" and then he will explain.||

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||i think the conversation between House and prewar Cooper who knows about the vault experiment plans and the bombs will be very interesting||

graceful rose
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We getting the interloper in season 2 or nah 😂

lofty prairie
plush quest
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Especially as someone calculating and charismatic as House, he’ll say anything to get what he wants

reef hinge
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I dont think its rage bait, i expect them to strip out any of the nuance with him or Caesars legion, which made them interesting

spring basin
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I have a feeling they'll do a good job of capturing what many of us love about his character, and the legion, the best they can.

reef hinge
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Caesars legion should be immortan Joe not Lord Dementus, ruthless and competent

errant sandal
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yeah, i heard the reason why they were successful despite not using guns is cuz of guerilla tactics and psychological warfare

i’d say that’s pretty smart

lofty prairie
lofty prairie
errant sandal
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being able to manage to pull off ancient/classical warfare in a world of modern/future tech is a feat

lofty prairie
errant sandal
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fallout 4 and 76 have guns-galore nowadays that that seems impressive to me

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maybe the creators who created them were thinking of albert’s stick and stones quote when they/he made them

lofty prairie
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Also Vojta btw legion im pretty sure rules Mexico

errant sandal
lofty prairie
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Vojta have you noticed how un-coordinated the raiders are in FO4, meanwhile there hundreds of tribes west with there own lore.

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In NV theres a tribe in Zion canyon who are descendants from European tourists

errant sandal
errant sandal
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i heard the legion was possibly no more if caesar was killed, so it goes to show the importance of the the right people/person

lofty prairie
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In 76 the main raiders are joinable and are actually somewhat level headed, unlike the splinter groups like the blood eagles. The 76 main raiders faction at the crater sees themselves a more survivalist just trying to establish order in a world with disorder, the main leader even try’s to not attack innocents but will if they don’t help. It’s a contrast to raiders in 4 who try and mug me in T60 power armour lol

lofty prairie
errant sandal
lofty prairie
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While settler are the good side (And im going to join them in my new run) they are imo the most underprepared

lofty prairie
cunning rock
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Where’s the tv series comments?

frosty wolf
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Nah. Knowing how he’s described could be Mr Fantastic surviving with the Legion lol

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I wouldn’t.

coral juniper
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Thinking about it they should've made it canon that Fantastic figured out how to use Helios One by accident and started using it to take control of Vegas by bending the forces there under his control, I want this dumb guy to continue to fail upwards

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That should've been the plot of season 2

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Macaulay Culkin should be Fantastic

woven scaffold
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Fantastic will inherit the earth.

lunar wigeon
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Whats up with mr house in the tv series? Is there 2? Can somebody who's more versed in the lore put their two senses in what is or could be going on here? I'm confused.

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they have the guy from the round table in season 1 and this other guy in the season 2 promo material and episodic material but both the guy from season 1 and the new guy are both depicted in season 2 and im quite confused about this

red forge
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We don't know for certain yet.

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Someone suggested the other day that he's a body double.

lunar wigeon
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Okay

safe turtle
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Remember in Fallout New Vegas, that there was the H&H Tools Company, run by Anthony House, Mr. House's half brother who had developed intense paranoia?

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I'm betting the "body double" is Anthony, mind controlled by Robert.

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After playing Fallout 4 it didn't sit quite so well with me that House was in his life preservation pod in NV, since they had cryogenics. He could have automated everything and thawed himself out once a year to check on things without becoming what he was as of FNV

frosty wolf
crisp grail
reef hinge
red forge
storm grove
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I like the new actor better, but I do think the real Robert house should have a much more cold and calculating personality

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the other actor does give off more serious

coral juniper
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House wasn't necessary a cold person, he was just full of himself

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I do think house is genuine in wanting humanity to rebuild and thinks his ideals are good

storm grove
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I know what you mean but he's definitely a strategist type, not a go find random people in a bar to have a fight with type

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though it could make sense in the show if he's desperate or something

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or maybe he's just forced to become more hands off because of the whole FNV spoilers situation

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||becoming confined to his life support could be something that makes him change as a character||

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||looking back now yeah it could be extremely compelling if he actually develops his present personality because of his conditions over time, rather than just being a static one note character||

woven scaffold
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We literally never saw pre-war House before. He’s been stuck 200 years strapped to a machine. That’s plenty of time for one’s mindset and attitude to change.

severe dock
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Just started watching Episode 1 of season 1 and it's obvious its an Amazon show

crisp grail
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new trailer, a few seconds of new scenes

frozen badger
storm grove
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its weird that you even feel the need to point out his daughter's race, but his wife does appear and she is very important to the story

crisp grail
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lol right? just watch the show - you sound .... yeah . lol . very ignorant right now

storm grove
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yeah i think maybe vulpes would be a tad too evil for the show actually lol

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i doubt it'll be caesar tho

orchid lake
frosty wolf
severe dock
orchid lake
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Bro I don't even... You know what? I want whatever the hell you're smoking

severe dock
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Ironic

crisp grail
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just watch the show, it will make sense

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she is one of the MOST pivotal characters that ALL the rest of us know about , and your flat refusal to continue watching is.... something

severe dock
orchid lake
severe dock
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I never said I will refuse to keep watching, you added that for some reason bro

lofty prairie
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When was Lucy black???

severe dock
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As any healthy person should, im just very skeptical of amazon lmao

severe dock
storm grove
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Black people existing in media: a

average bigot: Is this politics

crisp grail
lofty prairie
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Read your message

severe dock
storm grove
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you didn't invent this rhetoric and I will not play dumb to your crap

severe dock
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Too late

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Whatever, kids. Yall don't know the real world yet, thats cute

lofty prairie
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???

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Im so confused what ive just come into the middle of

storm grove
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just forget it lol

lofty prairie
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Ok lol

crisp grail
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he's angry that Cooper has a black kid and hasn't watched very far and thinks its DEI instead of an actual plot point that the rest of us know about

severe dock
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Angry? Far fetched but aiight

lofty prairie
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Unless it ruins the show then it’s no problem

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When acting like that becomes a problem is when it drains the media and only becomes apart of a political/Personal agenda. Her being black does a total of 0% damage to fallouts story

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Anyways you guys looking forward to tomorrow’s episode? I hope we get to see the civil war or start of it

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Jokes on you im not American

severe dock
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It doesnt matter

lofty prairie
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Ok whatever

storm grove
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"woke" is just refurbished conspiracy theory bigotry

severe dock
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Yikes, lmao

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Keep living in your fantasy world then

lofty prairie
storm grove
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im not going to mince words on this and I really think we should avoid being prejudiced against race (since I can't say the term, apparently)

severe dock
storm grove
severe dock
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That explains a lot

storm grove
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I have my own thoughts about where fantasy land is

severe dock
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Inspiring

lofty prairie
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The “5 seconds without any controversy challenge” fails with fallout fans i see

trim quest
severe dock
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hides

lofty prairie
orchid lake
trim quest
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Let's keep the political topics and terms out of this, unless they are directly from the show. Real World politics is against #rules

severe dock
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Gotcha

lofty prairie
trim quest
severe dock
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Why delete my very logical comment but everything else can stay? Smh

lofty prairie
trim quest
severe dock
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Ouch, hit me with the automated response lol
Ofc it isnt

weak kayak
trim quest
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If you also need clarification about #rules , also DM @hearty pasture

lofty prairie
trim quest
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Let's get back on topic, about the show

lofty prairie
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Or cant I ask mods personal questions?

trim quest
severe dock
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First impression is alright, just saw lucy getting married to some random guy from another vault, lmao. Curious to see where it goes

lofty prairie
severe dock
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Plus being a Moderator here, youre bound to get spoiled

lofty prairie
severe dock
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Lmao

trim quest
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and spoilers, meh, dont bother me.

severe dock
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I can see that. Sometimes even when knowing the ending to a Story, its still sometimes worth to see how it happens

lofty prairie
severe dock
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Exactly

orchid lake
minor gorge
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Spoilers four of the five magically created prydwen will be blown up because it's cool

lofty prairie
minor gorge
# lofty prairie Source: Trust me bro

Hey,when they just introduce five huge airships blowing up a settlement and setting up this iteration of the BoS to be nothing short of a southern hick cult, yea. The only reason to have those many airships is to watch most of them blow up

lofty prairie
frosty wolf
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Speaking of airships, did I see one in the prewar scene?

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Idk how to spoil text my bad

red forge
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Use || on either side.

frozen badger
frozen badger
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Anyway just looked back at the season 2 trailer and ||looks like Norm is going to be leading the unfrosted bud's buds to find the water chip or some other quest||

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||maybe find Hank?||

ancient bear
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Anyone know when the next episode release?

weak kayak
tender cypress
ancient bear
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Bruh thx lol

weak kayak
errant sandal
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huh..
wonder if we’ll ever see the mysterious stranger in the show

broken zephyr
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Watched the first episode of the second season last night, it was amazing, can’t wait for more

marble heron
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Does the next episode come out tonight or tomorrow?

frosty wolf
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Tomorrow

plush quest
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Does it come at midnight tomorrow or at a specific time?

red forge
vale girder
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When is episode 2 coming in the UK?

red forge
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Adapt your timezone to pacific time.

vale girder
storm grove
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Now u have to change the time to midnight

red forge
storm grove
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if u just put your system time in the future u will unlock every episode

red forge
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So it's going to be closer to 6am for you.

vale girder
severe dock
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I just finished the first season, if you look past the Amazon stuff, it's a pretty cool story man

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I guess in the story the lone wanderer died in concord lmao

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Because the prydwen is still intact

lofty prairie
lofty prairie
severe dock
lofty prairie
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Only if you make yourself an enemy of the bos which being a minutemen doesnt

severe dock
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Everything is optional, pretty sure Preston wants them gone

lofty prairie
lofty prairie
severe dock
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Really a missed opportunity to decide the Canon of the games but I guess it doesn't matter at the end

lofty prairie
severe dock
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What?

lofty prairie
# severe dock What?

You were trying to tell me that the Sole survivor dies cuz the BoS is there even tho 3/4 endings doesnt lead up to destroying the BoS and only if you say shoot Idk the entirety of Cambridge. Have you actually played the game?

severe dock
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Over 1k hours, the story parts were years ago, but I still remember em

lofty prairie
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Oh ok I thought u were a newbie who got confused.

severe dock
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Currently in a 300 hour playthrough where BOS still didn't arrive. Lvl 125

lofty prairie
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Mb, but you should know the taking down BoS is optional and they survived Because in season 2 teaser a || Representative from the commonwealth is joining with the cult western chapter ||

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Why is it not spoiler warning it

severe dock
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I know it is, but it seems like a huge part of the game since you gotta build all those artilleries in your settlements

lofty prairie
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Also why won’t my spoiler hiding work wth???

severe dock
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No clue, gonna watch the first episode tomorrow tho

lofty prairie
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Ok

severe dock
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Of season 2

red forge
marble heron
marble heron
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Second episode is out

graceful rose
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Episode 2 was 🧑‍🍳 💋

lusty lark
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Hell yeah it was. I really liked it.

marble heron
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Commonwealth brotherhood is maxsons brotherhood isn’t it? so why do the other branches seem to all dislike his brotherhood? I wonder

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Unless if it has something to do with Arthur maxsons beliefs and ideologies, we all seen him in fallout 4 and his thirst for the destruction of synths and the institute

graceful rose
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A lot of people respect him, so these other chapters kinda don’t want Maxon to claim what they’ve discovered and kinda just power hungry

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There’s a lot of lore to unload on wants about to come

lusty lark
# marble heron Commonwealth brotherhood is maxsons brotherhood isn’t it? so why do the other br...

Good question. ||I find it interesting that Elder Cleric Quintus was able to gather multiple Brotherhood Chapters together for the coup. "F the Commonwealth!" I found that hilarious. Especially the one hick Elder saying about one of his Squires screwing around with a robot. My reaction to that: O_o.

The 2 Knights playing with a Plasma Grenade. That was hilarious but not unexpected. In Fallout: New Vegas, one of the Rangers says that a few NCR Troopers got blown up when playing with a Frag Grenade.

I think the Knight that challenged Maximus must've been an NCR Trooper embedded in the Brotherhood and took out his anger in his attempt to kill Maximus.

Interesting that Maximus and Paladin Harkness already have an understanding: Since they both nodded at each other.||

lusty lark
marble heron
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||Harkness why does that name sound so familiar||

graceful rose
lusty lark
marble heron
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Wonder if it’s possible that they could be one and the same

graceful rose
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He’s name was harnkness if I Remember

graceful rose
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Also he’s definitely avoid the BoS especially with their hate for synths

marble heron
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Maybe coincidence but if it’s commonwealth then synth Harkness would be dead

lusty lark
marble heron
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Perhaps maxson was only in his 20’s during FO4 so by now he’s in his 30’s

graceful rose
lusty lark
marble heron
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Only due to maxsons addiction to strict protocol. Have you ever tried disobeying maxsons orders to see what he says, maybe not as funny as Caesar but still he is a man who expects results not excuses

graceful rose
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I like how the capital wasteland/ commonwealth is finally coming full circle and coming to vegas after all these years

marble heron
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Question is will we see maxson and perhaps some familiar faces

graceful rose
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Arguably my favourite BoS chapter was the capital wastelands under elder Lyon’s looking forward to Easter eggs and lore

lusty lark
graceful rose
lusty lark
marble heron
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So it’s not like east coast or west coast or even mid west. They all have their own territory like Californian Bos or Commonwealth Bos

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Question is are there more splinter factions of the BOS

graceful rose
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I love how they just completely ignored the zetan and freaked over a ice box instead

marble heron
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I don’t recall if there was an elder there from the Mojave chapter at the gathering

lusty lark
lusty lark
marble heron
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One thing im surprised about is they only have the vertibirds from FO4 and 76 but not from 3 and NV. I figured there would be a bit of diversity between them. I guess not

graceful rose
lusty lark
marble heron
graceful rose
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Ok so it’s Yosemite chapter, Colorado, Grand Canyon

marble heron
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||I also wonder if The Ghouls wife and daughter are specifically where Hank Macclean is. Especially with the whats it premium + vault tec people||

graceful rose
marble heron
lusty lark
# marble heron That was likely an hilarious moment this season thus far,

I think that was the Colorado Chapter's Elder boasting about it.

Makes me think: Vault 0. Think about it: Fallout Tactics is being drip fed to us now with that small hilarious moment.

No other Brotherhood Chapter has robots in its capacity like that: To the point that an Elder would boast about it in front of 4 other Elders no less 😂

marble heron
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My question is lore dictates that the brotherhood has the council of elders. Is this that council? Or is there more at play

lusty lark
marble heron
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Honestly Im surprised i haven’t heard AD VICTORIAM yet

lusty lark
lusty lark
marble heron
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Unless if that’s something maxsons brotherhood started but I think the Appalachian BOS used it too but dont quote me on that as I don’t play 76

graceful rose
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That’s where they’re stationed

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Which is a great nod to the older games

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The Grand Canyon guys are in legion’s territory which is crazy

marble heron
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Dang mariposa still stands after 220 years. Dang the Yosemite BOS know how to play defense

graceful rose
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And the coronado chapter is mentioned in a fallout fan made mod

marble heron
lusty lark
marble heron
lusty lark
marble heron
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Dang

lusty lark
# marble heron Dang

The Mariposa Military Base was destroyed by the Vault Dweller and the Brotherhood of Steel during the Super Mutant Conflict a 134 years prior (2162) - so, it's absolutely a different facility within Mariposa County.

woven scaffold
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It’s Coronado, not Colorado.

marble heron
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I also wonder if The Ghouls wife is in that secret vault premium + thingy that hanks in.

marble heron
woven scaffold
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Coronado is a large area of San Diego.

marble heron
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Alright nvm

lusty lark
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Interesting that the Brotherhood has a Chapter at the Grand Canyon (of ALL places)

lofty prairie
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Guys that episode was fire of course they leave it to next episode with the commonwealth bos also the way the paladin rode in was straight aura. Ngl the whole time I was like dont side build with Lucy and the ghoul i just want all brotherhood.

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So my question is, where is the OG BOS from fallout 1 are they still around and number two is, duiring the 10 years between the show and 4 did the commonwealth make an army cuz why did they say they would whoop the other chapters assess

lofty prairie
graceful rose
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I kinda worried harkness is going to betray the commonwealth 😭

lusty lark
lusty lark
# lofty prairie So my question is, where is the OG BOS from fallout 1 are they still around and ...

The Commonwealth Brotherhood appears to be the new HQ. (Although, I'd arguably would've preferred if the Brotherhood HQ was at the Citadel in the Capital Wasteland. I mean: The Pentagon as the Brotherhood’s seat of power? Pure aura. Especially as a big "F you" to the Enclave.)

But, the Commonwealth makes sense. No known foes are there. Plus, the Brotherhood's got the Minutemen with them. So, life in the East Coast Brotherhood might be extremely different compared to how the West Coast Brotherhood is operating.

I mean: Paladin Harkness was able to fly his Vertibird all the way from Boston Massachusetts. So, it's clear High Elder Maxson's Brotherhood must've absolutely created a new fuel source for extremely long range Vertibird flights.

woven scaffold
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Unless another Prydwen arrived while everyone was in the hangar.

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Or another Commonwealth Prydwen is docked at another close Chapter, like Lost Hills.

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I’m assuming somehow Harkness and Maximus will take down one of the evil BoS airships that we see in the trailer.

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Also was anyone able to scan close enough to see any of the names on the other ships? Caswennan was there of course.

red forge
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So I find it funny how ||a working ice box was found to be more important than the remains of an alien||.

woven scaffold
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The corpse is just another piece of food. But ice? Ice is forever.

blazing jackal
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So many Zetan Easter eggs my mind exploded

red forge
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Also, a very interesting ||Nuclear Winter|| easter egg that ||set up the premise of the destruction of Shady Sands||.
A ||purified water generator||, a ||Brahmin, which at first I was confused why it had 2 heads already, but only to realise it's in Shady Sands, not a prewar town||.
This episode delivered quite a lot of nice game easter eggs.

lusty lark
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Anyone else notice the Commonwealth Chapter logo on Paladin Harkness' Vertibird? It's a mix of the Brotherhood of Steel insignia and Minutemen insignia.

red forge
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And the ||naivety of the Vault-Tec junior execs. Pure gold||.

lusty lark
red forge
lusty lark
# red forge Well she's a product of the experiment. They are prewar, but they ||exhibited no...

Oh definitely. ||Norm of all people had to step up. Gonna be interesting seeing how he'll develop as a leader of this exodus. Those Dwellers are gonna have to get organized immediately. Although, thankfully the Brotherhood controls the area now, so hopefully they'll come across a Brotherhood patrol that can give them provisions/some 10mm Pistols. Or a NCR patrol. Who knows who they'll come across?||

storm grove
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GOOD episode

storm grove
red forge
# storm grove ||reckon it just looked like any other mutant to them||

Probably, but just an interesting play on ||the whole thing about the possibility of aliens being at Area 51 in real life. Us as the audience would react quite a lot to the appearance of an alien, albeit its frozen body, only for it to be effectively discarded out of view unceremoniously||.

storm grove
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||it also confirms zetans as canon||

red forge
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I also honestly thought ||we'd see molerats, which ended up being the radscorpion scene from the trailer. Also did not expect the adult to "eat" one of its spawn||.
Also expected ||The Ghoul to break its tail when it got stuck in the trolley, but perhaps that's not an easy feat to simply snap it off by kicking it while it's wedged. That being said, the woman being stabbed by it wouldn't have happened otherwise||.

lofty prairie
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Do you guys think the Commonwealth bos uses only laser weapons or a mix of both in the show now. I mean whatever probably is easiest to disperse to the soldiers I guess.

lusty lark
lofty prairie
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Would love to see (Although this is not likely) low level grunts if we see them like bottom of the barrel soldiers use cool looking pipe rifles and I would love to see knights rock some fatmans

lofty prairie
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Idk im just thinking what was Nate and the other paladins would use

lusty lark
storm grove
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i imagine they'd give assault rifles to newbies

red forge
woven scaffold
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I have never seen a BoS Knight use an assault rifle. I had to mod that into their loot pool for a TV show conversion.

storm grove
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then keep good stuff like plasma rifles, miniguns and whatnot for the knights

lofty prairie
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Omg could u imagine if Nate uses a modified righteous authority cuz it reminds him of his mentor lol

lofty prairie
red forge
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That depends on how/if Nate (or Nora) will be depicted.

lofty prairie
lusty lark
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Hah. That's actually what I use as my primary service weapon on Fallout 4. Damn good weapon with great legendary effects.

red forge
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Someone made a plausible idea that they could simply be referenced as the Minutemen General.

blazing jackal
lofty prairie
storm grove
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i doubt they would show a player character in thhe series, especially with how they have gone too far with having a set in stone backstory already

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imo even "nate" and "nora" having names is a mistake

lofty prairie
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It really doesn’t matter it’s a show crap will be made canon, fan made lore be damn imo

red forge
storm grove
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that's really not the showmakers' philosphy if u actually watch any of the interviews

lofty prairie
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Doesnt late game in fo4 most bos soldiers use automatic rifles

lusty lark
# blazing jackal Wait really? I didn’t notice that, that implies the Minutemen BoS ending is the ...

Yeah. On his Vertibird if you look close enough, you'll see the insignia. It goes to show that Bethesda went with a mix of both Brotherhood and Minutemen ending. Which funnily enough is actually hinted as an option via the Art of Fallout 4. (It shows Preston Garvey, a squad of Minutemen and Brotherhood Knights fighting alongside each other with what looks like 2 airships above with Vertibirds)

storm grove
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they are actually actively trying to avoid invalidating players choices

lofty prairie
red forge
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But overall we don't yet know for certain how everything will play out.

storm grove
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idk, that's all i had to say u can read it again if you like

lofty prairie
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So you sided with the institute boo hoo. Like who gives a crap if Joe the average fan doesnt like it if in his run the institute wins and in the show they lost, canon has to be established

storm grove
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i dont really care to argue about this, bethesda has respected player decision in all their storymaking in all their games, it's their MO

lofty prairie
red forge
lusty lark
lofty prairie
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Like it’s actually a low IQ argument hes making

blazing jackal
lofty prairie
storm grove
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listen im fine with your opinions but that's just a downright insult

red forge
lofty prairie
lofty prairie
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Also I highly, highly doubt that those are all what remains of other chapters there gotta be more

red forge
lofty prairie
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Theres gotta be like Texas bos or like Alaskan bos or something like that

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Guys do you think the standard BoS laser rifle would be automatic??

woven scaffold
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I don’t think that insignia is the Minuteman one. It’s just an X.

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Also the X is also present in flags around the hangar. It’s likely the insignia of one of the Western Chapters.

lofty prairie
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The BoS has to lock the hell in cuz the enclave is rampant once again

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I did hear a theory (Now this is unlikely) but that Quitus is actually an enclave mole, he was put there to destroy the BoS from the inside cuz the enclave can’t defeat them. It’s highly highly unlikely but it’s a cool theory.

steep raven
woven scaffold
red forge
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Are we talking ||the emblem that's on the side of the bird towards its rear? The detail of it is obscured||.

steep raven
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||I did initially think it was the minutemen muskets because of the preview, but it was incredibly difficult to see because of the vertibird landing||

blazing jackal
woven scaffold
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Both lines are straight.

lofty prairie
lusty lark
lofty prairie
# lusty lark That's a big possibility.

Well Thats what makes sense to me, not completely eradicate the Minutemen calling card but instead merge it with the greatest party the commonwealth had seen. I wouldn’t be surprised if the minutemen are like a subdivision now

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A lot can happen in ten years

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No way the other chapters all use T60 aswell, I wanna see diversity i wanna see the other chapters in say T45 and T51. Maybe the less advanced and smaller chapters use like t51 and Tommy guns idk.

woven scaffold
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Still doesn’t beat the fact the flags with the cross insignia are present in the meeting between the 4 Western Chapters. It’s one of their logos.

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Which the Commonwealth was explicitly not invited to, mind you.

near birch
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Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

frozen badger
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S2E2 ||apart from Quintus and maybe the woman the anti-commonwealth civil war alliance seems completely incompetent||

woven scaffold
red forge
frozen badger
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||you think the big guy challenging max was also orchestrated in some way as a test?||

vale girder
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Can I just say that episode 2 was….

chilly hedge
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I just started episode 2... didn't expect it was possible to hate Hank anymore than i already did

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I'm a big NCR fan, I've always had a soft spot for the Republic

woven scaffold
red forge
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Guys don't forget to spoiler tag stuff please.

red forge
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Probably needed to ||get some plausibility of Maximus having the ability to kill Moldaver||.

granite lark
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Why i have the sensation ||New Vegas will be destroyed and Mr. House get killed?||

vale girder
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Pretty obvious what direction Maximus is heading, he’s starting to doubt the ideals of the brotherhood and his faith in them is waning. Along comes the Commonwealth, they’re ideals lining up more with what Maximus believes…. Need I say more.

spring basin
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I need to stop popping into chat before watching the episode, ya'll hyping it up got me exicited

woven scaffold
vale girder
split gorge
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#1. goated episode, so good. #2 IT'S NOT MAXON. #3 where are the other chapters from?

woven scaffold
split gorge
woven scaffold
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Nope, all new.

vale girder
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I wonder if we will see Maxon…. Also the Brotherhood chapter from New Vegas in Hidden Valley hasn’t appeared yet…

woven scaffold
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I think Maxson has a higher chance of appearing, but I doubt he will. Hidden Valley has too many ending variables so I think it just won’t be brought up.

vale girder
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Only issue with Maxon showing up is that it hits too close to home and than people are going to be asking where Nate/Nora is. They may just make Maxon the “Sauron” of Fallout, you know he’s there but you never see him.

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Would be cool to see Maxon though. It’s obvious the Show runners/Todd hate the West Coast Brotherhood though, they’re clowning on them every episode, they’re like the comedic relief of the show. So my money is on the East Coast chapter stomping them…. Which would mean they have to at some point show Maxon surely

next ermine
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Pulowski Preservation Shelters need to take notes on milk fridges

rain matrix
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Patrolling the Mojave...

indigo turret
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The radscorpions in episode 2 woo

plush quest
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||A little disappointed we didn’t get any pre-war scenes. But at least we got to see a pre-destruction Shady Sands||

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||Quintus mentions that there are dozens of splintered chapters but only 3 showed up for the meeting. Do you think he was unable to sway the other chapters or were those 3 just the closest ones that could convene?

The Grand Canyon chapter is interesting to me because they’re stationed in Legion territory||

worthy river
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Legion territory at the time of New Vegas, territory never stays the same forever

plush quest
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Well we know the Legion controls the east and the closest notable thing east of the Hoover dam is the Grand Canyon

worthy river
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All I know of the Grand Canyon is that a certain person was lit on fire and thrown down it

plush quest
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||I want to know what kind of deal the Grand Canyon BoS made with the Legion to be able to operate out of there. Or if they’re there without permission so they constantly fighting off the Legion||

worthy river
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||Maybe it’s far enough East that they don’t have enough troops to send like how you can point that out to Legate Lanius||

woven scaffold
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They could be a relatively new chapter since the Legion’s collapse.

plush quest
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||Yeah we’d have to see the state of the Legion at this point. Episode 2 makes it seem like they’re still a force to be reckoned with but we don’t know the extent of their remaining power yet.||

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||I liked that they didn’t shy away from the brutality of the Legion’s views on women. It plants them firmly in the ground as not the good guys||

marble heron
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The east coast brotherhood or more specifically Elder Maxsons brotherhood from the commonwealth will stomp out these brotherhood traitors. With liberty prime, with 10 years of expanding their military. There’s not much that the west coast can do against prime other than crash a prydwen into it.

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Or a satellite missile barrage

plush quest
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||We don’t know if the east coast has Liberty Prime. It could’ve been the Minutemen ending where the Commonwealth BoS survived but didn’t activate Prime||

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Would be cool to see Liberty Prime in live action though

marble heron
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10 years without activating prime? That seems unlikely

plush quest
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If they never recruited Madison Lee then chances of activating prime are low

marble heron
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Either way the beryllium agitator would be unopposed unless if the institute got to it

marble heron
vale girder
plush quest
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It very likely could be Prime. But it could also be the huge stockpile of fatmans they found on Fort Strong

marble heron
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Or reverse engineered institute technology

plush quest
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They never really had the chance to use them since the Institute was in an enclosed space

spark wolf
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||okay so was that elder maxson at the end of the most recent episode?||

vale girder
marble heron
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No paladin harkness

vale girder
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He literally tells everyone his name 😂

plush quest
spark wolf
spark wolf
plush quest
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It was aite. Was hoping for more pre-war and legion scenes though

marble heron
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Next episode will be legion focused it seems

plush quest
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||I honestly didn’t care for how much screen time Hank got||

vale girder
spark wolf
plush quest
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||Also there was a severe lack of House this episode ||

spark wolf
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Legion can survive in every ending ik that

marble heron
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Hank scenes was pretty annoying but the only thing that got me to the edge of my seat was the premium + thing. I wonder if that’s where the ghouls wife is

spark wolf
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And I bet there's some ncr survivors out there somewhere

marble heron
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He’s a good villain I just don’t like how much screen time he gets with his botched experiments

vale girder
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It seems going off the show that none of the New Vegas endings are canon, so far it’s as if the events of Fallout: New Vegas never happened

spark wolf
plush quest
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||No thadius in the new episode either :(||

spark wolf
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I do think there gonna canonize a ending though since there likely gonna canonize elder maxsons survival aswell

minor lark
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Seems like everyone lost at the dam.

spark wolf
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Both ncr legion and house (if you lock him disconnected in his pod) can survive

vale girder
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Hence I suspect none of the New Vegas events happened based on the show

woven scaffold
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Despite all the theories and arguments, there’s one thing every fan can agree on: We won’t go quietly, Legion can count on that.

storm grove
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they will make all the endings feel probable (from an interview "everyone thinks they won")

spark wolf
vale girder
spark wolf
vale girder
spark wolf
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One thing we can agree on is legion is not the canon ending

vale girder
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Do we know if Maxon exists in the show? I can’t remember but I recall his name being dropped this last episode?

storm grove
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not necessarily, I think it was implied that both NCR and the Legion were stretched too thin in the game (so whichever won could theoretically lose control over the region within the 15 years)

plush quest
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None of the New Vegas ending are canon exactly how we expect them to be canon

storm grove
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I mean I think the theme will be that no matter what happened the world moved on

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the decks been shuffled already 😎

plush quest
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||Also I find it hilarious that the whole religious theme found in Quintus’s chapter is solely because he likes the aesthetic. Not a faction wide thing||

minor lark
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Wonder where that football stadium Legion camp is.

vale girder
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If I recall correctly all Bethesda games, Skyrim, Fallout etc. The premise of each game is canon. Like the Oblivion Crisis being a canon event and the Hero of Kvatch is canon but everything the player does in between that time and after that is not canon. So like the in and outs of what the player actively chooses to do. Or like Skyrim, the only canon thing is that Alduin returned and the Dragonborn. Everything else is not canon. Just the overall premise.

storm grove
plush quest
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And the DLC main quests as well

storm grove
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nerevarine and HoK are around, LDB will be too

vale girder
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Everything else is the players playground

plush quest
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In my mind Nate/Nora did eventually end up becoming the Nuka World Raider boss

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Would be cool if a protagonist didn’t end up as “the savior of the wasteland” and became a menace instead

vale girder
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Hence the OVERALL premise being canon but not the minor intricacies

storm grove
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the institute ending would be the most interesting for the lore (I know the institute in game sucked, but their premise as a faction is interesting)

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In my opinion of course

plush quest
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They can still allude to certain player actions in future installments. Like how the Vault Dweller canonically has kids

storm grove
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institute ending as in the sole survivor joins the institute lol

vale girder
raw wraith
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So, I don't usually pop in, but I'm curious what the consensus on episode 2 seems to be from everyone?

storm grove
plush quest
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The Institute’s premise is just Big MT but less fun imo. Mad scientists can be a fun villain but I prefer the campy version instead of the weird white sleek iPhone aesthetic the institutes got going on

storm grove
raw wraith
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I had some gripes with episode 2, but I'm not sure if it's just a me thing haha

storm grove
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maybe more of a CIA kind of vibe back then

plush quest
vale girder
storm grove
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yeah I didn't really enjoy the Hank scenes too much, felt fillery

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i think the series works better as a binge because of the cutting between characters, feels like the plot doesn't advance that much for each one in a single episode

vale girder
raw wraith
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||I have a few issues, but they all revolve around the depiction of the BOS. They're kinda just... uncharacteristically incompetent in my opinion?||

plush quest
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His only defining character trait this season so far is being annoyed with Lucy

raw wraith
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In like, pretty much every scene imo

storm grove
plush quest
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Yeah the barracks culture the BoS has going on was cool in season 1 when it was just the recruits. But we find they’re still acting like high schoolers high up in front of the elders

vale girder
storm grove
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it might be that this chapter is supposed to be particularly bad, but two of the elders didn't seem convincing

plush quest
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||When they mentioned that they were having a meeting of the chapters, was anyone else hoping to see the Midwestern chapter among them?||

raw wraith
# storm grove I felt that way about them too, feels like they should be more professional idk

||As someone who just finished a playthrough of Fallout 2 a couple of weeks ago and recently jumped back into NV with TTW (Fallout 3), pretty much every aspect of them is kinda wrong. Like, they don't do fights to the death (at least for no reason), they don't goof around with military technology, and they're extremely disciplined. Even Veronica, who's the biggest BOS joker we know is diciplined and thoughful about the best interests of the brotherhood when she needs to be.||

minor lark
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Area 51 would be a treasure trove for them too. And they're all acting like an icebox matters.

storm grove
raw wraith
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||Also, the fact every BOS chapter has an airship kinda poops on the success of the East Coast change in doctrine. And it'd also be virtually impossible for the west coast chapter to build their own ship in the 15 years since we saw them in NV||

raw wraith
raw wraith
storm grove
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overall I still enjoyed the episode for what it was, I still want to see what happens and it's way above average as far as adaptations go

raw wraith
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||They also would never destroy a perfectly preserved car. That's a valuable piece of technology - they'd study and/or utilise it||

vale girder
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Yes I don’t like how they have turned the BoS into the running joke of the show either, it’s like they are bumbling buffoons, you would swear it was Beavis and Butthead in the Power Armor everytime you see them on screen, but I’m also waiting to see how they handle the East Coast Chapter, it’s either going to be a case of the show runners really don’t like the BoS or they don’t like the West Coast BoS

minor lark
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Maybe this chapter is just full of rejects from other chapters

storm grove
plush quest
raw wraith
vale girder
raw wraith
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I get it's supposed to be funny and played for laughs, but it honestly felt so out of place for me that it completely took me out

plush quest
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BoS training isn’t what it used to be. Maybe The Ghoul was being serious when he said that

storm grove
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might be a way to portray corruption that maximus will step up to change or whatever

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MBGA

raw wraith
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It didn't feel very faithful

storm grove
vale girder
storm grove
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the show seems to have a very theatrical kind of exaggeration to it, but it does come across as goofy

raw wraith
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Anyway, I'll stop ranting now. Thank you for listening to me vent

storm grove
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this was a collective rant thank you for the mutually beneficial vent session

vale girder
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What would really be amazing… Is if Sarah Lyon’s comes back. That would be unreal

raw wraith
vale girder
vapid kestrel
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Did they seriously reference the “patrolling the Mohave makes you wish for a nuclear winter”

plush quest
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they literally turned that guy into an NPC lol

vapid kestrel
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That’s hillarious (!)

plush quest
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We also learn that airships are pre-war. It isn’t too much of a stretch that they found some somewhat intact and refurbished them

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The Prydwen is a special case I think because it was built/refurbished using Enclave tech and materials

woven scaffold
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I don’t think Lyon’s had an airship, but the BoS definitely had them at some point.

worthy river
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Pretty sure one of the Brotherhood guys who put the fusion core into those fans was Thaddeus

plush quest
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No Thaddeus is MIA afaik

worthy river
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Sounded like him but could be wrong

plush quest
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Those were just some mooks

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Looked like they could be legion at first, but they cleared it up pretty quickly

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||It is kind of weird Area 51 has that fan system. The real Mojave desert isn’t that sandy.||

undone echo
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Genuinely think hank wont get anywhere with his stupid experiment.

plush quest
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We really didn’t need another Hank montage this episode

undone echo
plush quest
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Makes me wonder if Kyle MacLachlan has a contract with the producers for a certain amount of screen time

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He has been appearing in a lot of ads outside of the show

undone echo
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Yeah im gunna go out on a leash here and say it feels like he got no significant role in season 2 for his character, maybe im wrong. Guess only time will tell

plush quest
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||My wild speculation is that he’s not perfecting the mind control chips for House, but instead the Enclave||

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||He went to the Global Comms room to make that phone call last episode. Why would you need Global Comms if you’re just trying to reach House (who’s presumably in Vegas)||

woven scaffold
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Because Mr House was Chairman Cheng all along.

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Ever seen them in the same room?

plush quest
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a correspondence. Who knows the extent of House’s influence pre and post war

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||Also anyone else think the some of the vault tec junior executives are going to die a horrible death in the wasteland?||

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||Which would be a shame because I kinda like them||

woven scaffold
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Yeah I think they’ll get into some trouble. Or form the most ruthless gang in the wastes.

plush quest
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That’d be hilarious

minor lark
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I really hope they use the group to explain some more about the local LA wasteland. Let me know whats up with the Boneyard and the Runners!

plush quest
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“The mall is gone :(“ lol

minor lark
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Very few times in this series do Dwellers come up to the surface and not become something terrible/die horribly/ or get used by others.

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This group will show us the gambit of that spectrum im sure haha

vapid kestrel
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||shouldn’t the cryolator not be in the vault thing that the BOS found? I thought it was invented by the v111 overseer…|||

minor lark
vapid kestrel
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I was under the impression 76 was non-canon for some reason

minor lark
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Yeah idk why people think that lol

plush quest
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76 is canon except from most of the atom shop stuff. And even then if an atom shop item appears in-game (on an NPC our out in the world or something) then it becomes canon

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One small thing they canonized recently was the Horsemen of the Apocalypse with the bounty hunting update. Before it was just a cool power armor aesthetic, but now we know these power armors existed in-universe

minor lark
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Yeah the PA lore is getting really muddy hahaha

plush quest
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Tbf the horsemen skins are all just modifications made to existing power armor models. It’s stuff like Civic Duty and V63 PA that kind of don’t make sense in the canon

minor lark
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Heavily modified but yeah sure. Im with ya.

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Horsemen PA looks like they were custom made but I cant tell what the base suit would be

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some of them are T-51. Another is T-60. Weirdly one’s an XO-1

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It makes sense in the context of the game. You aren’t actually “part” of those factions since they’re all dead. You just stole their credentials to accomplish some task

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The BoS expeditionary force is kind of weird though.

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They had to make up a new rank to justify being a BoS member while also being busy with everything else

minor lark
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Also the amount of dwellers that came out of vault 76. Some would've done all that we all have done

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This isnt one dwellers story. Its hundreds or lol 1000's

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Yeah canonically only one dweller pushed the button to nuke the SB queen. But for gameplay reasons it was all of us

minor lark
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Some likely joined Crater. The mothman cult. The new BOS. Etc

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a lot died. You can find 76er corpses scattered in a few places

minor lark
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All stories play out though is what im getting at. Dead dwellers from all the regional vaults on the map.

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and a special boy in a cargo crate

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|| do we think thatNorm and the vault-31 crew are going to live long? ||

minor lark
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Norm? Absolutely. The rest of the no names? Likely not. Haha

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minor lark
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Absolutely. They just all seemed like idiots.

orchid lake
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But for Bud, I hope someone punts him right into building

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Hot take: I don't mind how the Knights of San Fernando are being treated kinda like a post post apocalypse ISIS in a way

Destroying or disregarding historic relics, no regard for non member life, it makes sense for them to go that route, into ignorance after being screwed by the NCR and potentially the courier and more in the 15 years since we've seen them on the west coast.

I mean it's even mentioned that the other chapters don't agree with their religious stuff, so it's obviously an outlier

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I’ve been calling them Quintus’s Chapter but the San Fernando chapter makes a lot of sense

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It’s hilarious that all that religious theming is solely because Quintus thinks it’s cool. Not all the BoS are like that

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The naming convention was originally a morale boosting thing. Roger Maxon wanted to distance themselves from their pre-war military roots

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||Quintus' Brotherhood really not beating the "made up of former Legion troops" allegations with full-on gladiatorial combat.||

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But it evolved and people like Quintus takes it too seriously

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I will say, getting some heavy Father Elijah vibes from Quintus from what we've seen so far.

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orchid lake
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Agreed. The writing is excellent but I could do with less shots of characters looking stoically off into the distance

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minor lark
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Wonder is Mccully is going to be in this Legion camp or another we see.

orchid lake
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I'm just hoping we get to see the Enclave show up again

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||My crazy crackpot theory is that the person Hank called in ep 1 wasn’t Mr. House. He actually called the Enclave||

minor lark
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||He went to the Global Comms room to make that phone call. Why would you need Global Comms to contact House? (who’s presumably in Vegas)||

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# plush quest ||To me that just displayed how skewed the average Legion citizen’s world view i...

Oh, I just remembered. ||The Ghoul remarks to the Legion woman that she's "far west" when they meet her in the hospital. Assuming they're in between Novac and Vegas, that would mean the Legion might still be on the back foot in that region. Either that or it's been so long since The Ghoul was last in the area that he just isn't aware of the geopolitical changes that had been occuring since the Mojave Campaign.||

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Plus if it turns out that the Enclave are back in force it'll probably slowly be teased throughout the season before being revealed at the end when the BoS civil war is over

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The Ghoul doesn’t seem like the type to keep up with wasteland politics. He’s solely focused on his family.

minor lark
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The more this show progresses, the more I feel like they're going with a FNV ending that isn't possible in the actual game. Which I'm OK with.

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# plush quest ||My crazy crackpot theory is that the person Hank called in ep 1 wasn’t Mr. Hou...

It makes the most sense. It's been teased since Season 1, those dog collars looked way too much like the mind control devices, and you can't really show them with this expansive functioning base with legitimate transit lines without a follow up.

It would also make sense for House to try and gain access to the tech they were developing (we know they existed even before the great war, and so did he probably) to try and better understand their goals and motives and how to come out on top against them.

He wasn't doing "market research", he was doing opposition research

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Totally didnt see the connection with the dog collars! Hank is for sure contacting the Enclave

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Also sorry for the lack of spoiler tags I'm not very discord literate

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"promotion"

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Because it's all the same to him, Vault Tec, the Enclave

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gray badger
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He's still probably raging

minor lark
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Anyone else really enjoy seeing irl Radscorpions? Loved it

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I was wondering why they were so small until the big one showed up

minor lark
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I mean we do know they have a sizable base somewhere near California and that Hank was able to acquire a nuclear weapon somehow (albeit more crude) and that Wilzig somehow knew Lucy so honestly I think they may have a very massive detachment at the Cheyenne Mountain Complex

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It's in Colorado, only two states away

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Good point about Wilzig. I totally forgot that detail

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And in Norfolk as well

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Oooo. Maybe an entire southwestern US based game!

orchid lake
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Bethesda won't ever gonna let the Enclave die, they're just perfect villains

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I can’t wait to see the Norfolk base. I used to go to college down the street from there

gray badger
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I also love talking to people who seemingly understand US COOP plans irl lol

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minor lark
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I even deliver food there sometimes lol

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the guy said the thing!

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i'm watching it now lol

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That area is such a good option for a fallout expansion. It’s has the coastal vibes of the commonwealth but with the strategical military importance of the Capital

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OH I just realized the monorail in the Enclave complex from season 1, if it's from Cheyenne mountain, could be going to Peterson AFB

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why can't i smash doors in game?

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Not even just a door they took out a wall lol

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gray badger
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But yeah ik lol

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Moon base would be wild dlc content lol

orchid lake
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The Enclave ain't going anywhere for a long long time, same with the BoS

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lol "if oyu helped them,they would stop" 😂

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Meant a future title lol

orchid lake
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So having them be on a Moon base would be a cool DLC mission, where you either blow it up/take it over, or, if you side with the Enclave (Decently likely they'll allow it considering a lot of people want to and in 76 you can and the most popular quest mod aside from SS2 in F04 is an Enclave themed one), you get fight off the BoS and maybe even blow up an alien spaceship or something

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oh man i love how they did the radscorpion

orchid lake
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Don't worry about him
I wasn't
That's fair 😆

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That’s my favorite intro since the first episode.

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It better have a zoom out of earth and there’s scars of the Great War visible from space

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Like a giant crater where China used to be. Or the entire continent of Australia is constantly on fire

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This show keeps getting better and better, omg when Lucy said “oh you speak Latin” I bursted out laughing

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okay now i want a tiny working terminal on a desk a mouse for it

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where's my tiny terminal on a tiny desk beth? vbAngryFist

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new camp ally when?

orchid lake
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Make it compatible with the Pip Boy and some holotapes too

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bahaha A REAL ice box....never mind the alien

orchid lake
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That’s probably the closest the TV show will get to referencing Zetans without it feeling too campy

minor lark
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We got to see one of their ships under the sheet too!

hallow sail
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You can see a scribe messing with Electro Enforcer touching it on the uhhhh… probing end

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I mean yea tbf earth is probably right in the center of another civilization's borders

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Especially with the length the zetans have gone too

minor lark
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The Invasion Event in 76 shows us they really want our brainwaves.

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it's un-american lol

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Underpopulation is honestly more of an issue in a advanced civilization capable of stellar flight

minor lark
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that was ONE squire

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you something ONE TIME and you go down in history 🤣

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i kind of and kind of don't wanna know the one squire

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i'm jsut not gonna shake hands with him >_>

minor lark
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And was it Fisto?!

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Yeah idk if I can find it but a few days before the Season premiere they did a little show lol

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norm becoming a mid level manager lol

minor lark
# orchid lake Wait what!?

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just so you know I am nice

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I like all the pr stuff Beth has done this time around

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As a reminder, this channel is for the Fallout show only.

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Omg I just realized something

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Bear bull

orchid lake
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What if the Enclave in the show has some ties to MODUS from 76?

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I have to imagine that if the Appalachian Enclave was still active by the time ZAX showed up as President Eden, that they would have been absorbed or wiped out.

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come on everybod clap your hands

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# orchid lake What if the Enclave in the show has some ties to MODUS from 76?

Doubtful. MODUS and the Whitesprings bunker lost satcomms to other facilities after the exchange and weren't ever able to recover them at scale. If MODUS did, the Oil Rig and Raven Rock and every other potential detachment would all have been in contact with one another from the get go, but that's just not the case in universe. He was able to connect with the localized Kovac platform but that was it basically...

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Ngl, I found the scene with the fridge with the BoS funny

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I too wish Nuclear Winter came back. I didn’t really give it a fair shot the first time

lunar wigeon
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Guys what does "children of the mojave almost make you wish for a nuclear winter" mean?

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It’s the NCR equivalent to saying the McFlurry machine is broken

red forge
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So nuclear winter would mean "just end it all".

pine minnow
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Can i be cast as a background bloated ghoul

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Crazy how they inserted a Nightkin in the background of every scene. Even the pre-war ones!

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I was pinged but no message 🙁

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is ep 2 out yet

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||It’s actually really sick that they got a Native actor to play the Yosemite elder. They’re often underrepresented in media and when they are it’s usually in a stereotypical or token role.||

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Love how the bos knights decided to blow up the random car. Classic

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dang i thought elder maxon was gonna show up for the commonwealth

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Neighbors are wild they are launching fireworks off lol

lofty prairie
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For what???

glad ore
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I onno christmas i guess

lofty prairie
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Wait it’s Christmas what’s the date?

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Im being so deadass right now too. I haven’t been counting the days.

glad ore
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just hit midnight for me so yea

lofty prairie
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Oh ok

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I find it funny that the Bos cared more about a working freezer than the alien in it 😂

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Tbf they probably see all sorts of crazy wasteland creatures and just assumed it was another mutated monster

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well he was still well within his rights!

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Fisto is currently cohosting an out of canon fake talk show hosted by the chicken clucker.

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They have a life sized prop of him so there’s a non-zero chance he shows up in the TV show proper

dapper turtle
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Merry radioactive Christmas

lofty prairie
worthy river
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Say that again

lofty prairie
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Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

noble root
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Insert driver nephi message

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Patrolling ||shady sands|| almost makes you wish for a ||nuclear explosion||
S2E2 spoilers

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omg
||🦂|| !!

torpid ermine
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Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

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the codex is ||open to interpretation|| 😭

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the ||legion|| 😮

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quickly realized, after norm made his ||speech to them||, that he only needs for someone to see ||his back|| for them to doubt him again 😆

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hmm.. but ig he did say he's a ||'product' of their work||

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|| < do this on the end and start of the spoiler

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hey, what's hank trying to achieve with ||the device||? i thought it was already ||proven to be working when he nuked sandy shades using someone with a device on their neck||?

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||"aw man, the mall's gone!"|| 🤣
dude knows his priorities

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man.. what a waste of a good man
BoS is a cult indeed

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well, maybe not 'good' good.. but he would've been useful still

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yeah.. not enough people respect the environment, even those that aren't that familiar or hospitable

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hmm
||there's not a lot of test subjects tho. I feel like people or creatures that can withstand high levels are rare. It doesn't look like he's tinkering with the device either to improve it. I think it's rather inefficient, other than the given that it's evil, to be experimenting like that. Death is final, and creating life under the current circumstances isn't that easy.||
oh well, ig it's just to hone in showcasing that ||Hank is actually evil or a bad person who might be the new antagonist or villain||

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Not much new stuff presented in this episode sadly

tender cypress
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Let’s be appropriate

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From the first season I was really routing for Maximus’ chapter, they really leaned into the BOS cult vibe which I thought was cool but after episode 2 I hope the Commonwealth chapter wipes them all out. I still think Maximus’ chapter is cool but the other 3 didn’t give BOS vibes at all.

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So I’m pretty sure I know who the squire and robot are 😂

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Courier 6 and fisto are my bet

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It’s the only instance where someone does that with a robot in the games and if I’m not mistaken the Grand Canyon directly connects to the Mojave via the Colorado river

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||patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.||

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Ok in serious though nah, im watching episode 2 right now, im a little late, and i just got to the part where ||right after the bomb exploded, maximus is in the suit. they really just plopped the PA UI from the game, into this scene. HE HAS HP. AND HE HAS 0 POWER CORES AND IS EMPTY. OVERSIGHT||

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THEY ||destroyed the car, not the car. bethesda why||

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Ok so ||Norm has very high charisma, that or Luck Thats certain.||

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I wonder... why the tv series had to turn everything in a more idiocratic way the whole storytelling?

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I don't feel the tv series to be serious or believable. It's too cartoonish wacky.

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I got the sensation this serie is not for adults but for kids pretending to be adults with a lot of "member berries"

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it's called flanderization, thats whats happening

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been happening since fallout 2 really

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Keep in mind a peace treaty was never signed for the BoS/NCR war. Most of the competent and professional West Coast members could’ve been slaughtered in battle while what remains are their children who spent their generation holed up in isolated bunkers.

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It makes sense that after decades of conflict and isolation, individual chapters would lose power and stray from the original doctrine while the BoS on the East Coast have been united in actively recruiting and succeeding in their local campaigns.

granite lark
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theyve already nuked one iconic town for no reason

granite lark
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Becaus Vault Tec evil

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i don't even find them evil, just idiotic

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i didnt write it out but vault tec was one example of flanderized "character" in fallout that i had thought of

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they used to be shady up to fnv but from fo4 the whole experiment thing was just... explicit

granite lark
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still the whole BoS feels out of touch

storm grove
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you go to a terminal in fallout 4 and it literally reads out ipsis literis "this vault's experiment is X you don't have to follow morals"

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no subtlety anymore, no moral gray area

granite lark
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oh is understandable but this whole vault tec evil because they bombed the world is quite not functional

storm grove
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that too

granite lark
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is just a delusional james bond villain

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even the bombing of Shady Sands

storm grove
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the tv show was going with an idea that they bombed the world on purpose to sell the "end of the world" so ppl would get vaults, but its quite nonsensical

granite lark
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just how. NCR, the most burocratic society we ever saw in post war era and that NPC with the mind control chip and he was carrying a nuke

storm grove
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to be fair i am feeling a certain vibe that perhaps that bombing was on Enclave's orders, which would be more in character (though also a lame 2d villain move)

granite lark
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how he was capable to pass the checkpoints and the caravan controll is beyond of ridicolous

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then show the enclave, show them be active

storm grove
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its funny too bc one big part of FNV was how difficult it was to actually get into new vegas

granite lark
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oh sure, Quarry Junction is full of deathclaws

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what im saying is, that wasn't even ncr bureaucracy and it was a pain

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Casinos pat you down for guns, how does a huge nuke pass every checkpoint undected until the capital city of the NCR?

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