fallout-tv-series

[long falcon]

Nice of them to use cut content.

[ancient bear]

Yoo that suck that they didn't gave us the rest of the season

[oak mist]

The subtitles called Bud a brain on a Roomba

[long falcon]

I saw that.

Good thing there's no sanity stat in Fallout.

[last garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-on-prime-fallout-prime-video-bethesda-maximus-gif-341377901427165611

[hallow sail]

4

was that todd as the vault tech salesmen?

[oak mist]

We already saw 4 last season and this ain't vault 4

[hallow sail]

ohh then i misheard lol

and i'm jumlbing things up

24 is the vault with the brain chips/commies

[pearl igloo]

Despite the mess ups on small things I’m loving how much the ghoul and Lucy feel like a follower getting dragged into BS 😂

[oak mist]

Ehh, it seems like Lucy regressed as a character from s1 to 2

[long falcon]

I see it as her trying to hold on to her humanity.

[snow inlet]

I cant lie, first episode for season 2 started off extremely strong. Heres hoping the rest of the episodes throughout the season can keep up

[ancient bear]

Do yall have a date for the next episode?

[oak mist]

Probably next week

[sand grove]

every hump day

[long falcon]

and not become the murder hobo all player characters become.

[silent heart]

Dec 24

[pearl igloo]

Weekly releases are the bane of my existence 😭

[storm relic]

did everyone just finsih it or did it come out earlier in other places (first ep)

[thick patio]

Same

[snow inlet]

I just finished it

[plush quest]

The next episode teaser looks hype as heck

[snow inlet]

Really well done episode, I enjoyed it heavily. I think the atmosphere and writing and dialogue are way better now. And it feels less goofy and more serious.

They did a proper balance this episode. I'm hoping I dont eat my words later.

[pearl igloo]

Praying the other episodes get leaked i don’t have the patience for this weekly stuff 😂

[long falcon]

That's how we did it in the olden days.

[storm relic]

is there 2 mr houses?

[snow inlet]

I think it could be someone from the enclave.

[verbal spoke]

I think it's his double

[queen rivet]

I forget how many episodes are for this season.

[wide current]

That gave 24 more questions than answers

[storm relic]

so if u kill him in new vegas MAYBE it was his doube which would seem kidna lam\

[plush quest]

There are probably about 2 dozen of them

[long falcon]

It was nice that they used cut content though.

[verbal spoke]

Vault 24 was a cut New Vegas Vault so that's cool

[plush quest]

man had a plan for everything

[wide current]

Ye

[snow inlet]

Its quite clear the person in the shadows that told Coopers wife about the speech to the other CEO's was the man we saw in the bar. He could be in charge of Vault Tec's operations, who knows.

[verbal spoke]

John Vault

[snow inlet]

John Fallout major reveal

Nate the Rake comes from new england to las vegas to fallout all over the vaults

[verbal spoke]

It's Fallout time

[dusk helm]

Big ironnnnn

[storm relic]

yall think the figure in the window at the vault tec meeting scene was the "real" mr house

[verbal spoke]

Probably

[snow inlet]

||I have a feeling that cooper could've accidently been responsible for the chip delivery being late, with the way that diner scene was implied.||

[long falcon]

The lore so far is that House was wrong about the date by a day in his predictions.

[snow inlet]

||Maybe cooper delivered him false intelligence? A lot of questions, good questions nonetheless.||

[storm relic]

the delivery of the cold fusion to mr house?

[verbal spoke]

The preview for the season and the next episode were pretty hype ngl

[snow inlet]

Could be cooper messed up House's plan A on defending Las Vegas with cold fusion for power, being forced to go-to plan B which is the chip.

[long falcon]

No, the chip that would have upgraded all his systems, including his missile defence systems.

[queen rivet]

||I remember house having a laser defense system but not sure what else he might have||

[storm relic]

ohhh you mean the platinum chip mb

[split gorge]

|| Episode one is so good I'm disappointed we didn't get to see Maximus tho. ||

[desert skiff]

Man the first episode was good

[snow inlet]

||They said missile defenses in the show, Mr. House could've saved more than what the chip could've provided he had in Vegas. If he had cold fusion instead of a engineered platinum chip. Imagine how the securitrons, and the strip would be with cold fusion instead of a chip.||

[snow inlet]

Agreed, quite frankly its the best episode so far in the show, in my opinion its quite clear theirs high stakes now. And its giving more information about pre-war America.

[verbal spoke]

||it looks like episode 2 is a big maximus episode||

[split gorge]

I hope

[glacial bridge]

||Did anyone catch the seeming BoS x Legion faction in the preview at the end?||

[split gorge]

|| House's explosive Remote thing is crazy ||

[snow inlet]

||Looks like Elder Maxson survives "Looks like the commonwealth is going to kill us all"||

[split gorge]

|| the Pimp-boy 3 billion being the Mk V is neat, maybe each version was given a Vegas makeover? ||

[dusk helm]

I thought siding with house was the good ending😭😭

[stray steppe]

I only have one complaint, I wish it was longer. Very good episode

[long falcon]

||Makes House much more sinnister.||

[snow inlet]

This

[desert skiff]

Truly makes an hour feel like 10 minutes

[plain portal]

Its all grey areas

[snow inlet]

||I presume he got ahold of Vault Tec's technology and wanted to test it on some rent-a-thugs in the bar. ||

[glacial bridge]

Occurs at about 58:16. ||You can make out a banner and, if you look very closely, it looks like a map with some Legion insignia.||

[verbal spoke]

||Yeah if those mfs from the Commonwealth are willing to nuke the Institute, they definitely will try and secure that cold fusion lol.||

[storm relic]

wth happened to all the character development of lucy becoming more cold from last season she seems super innocent again

[glacial bridge]

I didn't doubt this tbh

[desert skiff]

I was secretly hoping for a double episode premiere, but at least now we have an extra week of keeping busy

[long falcon]

||The Sole Survivor is coming for you Maxon.||

[snow inlet]

||Well maybe they could just be implying a commonwealth of brotherhood, commonwealth could mean a lot of things. And they possibly would've referred it to Maxsons Brotherhood Chapter and from the previews, i'm not seeing any liberty prime.||

[long falcon]

I think she's trying real hard to keep her humanity and not become a PC murder hobo.

[desert skiff]

Curious about the release times for the rest as well as we got ep1 early. I don't have it in me to stay up until 3-4am every Wednesday for the next two months 😭

[coarse saddle]

Do we only get 1 episode per week this time?

[long falcon]

Yes

[plain portal]

||elder
quintus||

[plush quest]

Nope. That was it. That was the whole season /s

[waxen silo]

Yes. the next episodes all come out wednesday though.

[snow inlet]

I do wish they did two episodes instead of one episode. It hurts being back to this once a week episode droppage like cable TV.

[verbal spoke]

It will be good for discussion though, seeing what people get right and stuff.

[waxen silo]

I watch more things when they drop all episodes at once.

[long falcon]

It would be fine if the season was 20 plus episodes a season like cable TV was.

[snow inlet]

True, thats a good decision and so far its making me look forward to the next one

[dim torrent]

Dont spoil anything, but is the new episode good? I dont have prime so I cant watch it

[glacial bridge]

||Was flea soup lady wearing the same fabric as her son in Vault 24?||

[desert skiff]

I love weekly episodes because then we can analyze and speculate in the meantime. Keeps the hype going longer for me

[long falcon]

YES

[verbal spoke]

It was cool

[snow inlet]

In my opinion its more interesting and far more intriguing than season one, but that is just my opinion. Others will have varying one's ofcourse.

[dim torrent]

Well now Im even more excited haha

thanks guys

[desert skiff]

I wouldn't linger in here for too long in case of accidental spoilers

[dim torrent]

Oh Im not, was just asking if it was any good. Thanks for looking out for me though!

[desert skiff]

No problem

[plush quest]

||I was hoping Norm would eat the brain||

[dusk helm]

Same!!

[long falcon]

I was leaning that way too.

[split gorge]

That's a good argument for it but I wish I could binge it.

[split gorge]

|| I was thinking that too! Also, didn't the trailer show him getting into the cryo pod? Was it misleading on purpose? ||

[lilac sequoia]

i would have recommended releasing the first 2 episodes || Maximus didnt have an appearance but the episode did clear up everyone else’s ending ||

because i feel the 2nd episode is more catered to New Vegas fans while this episode was to set up what is to come

[velvet pulsar]

||is house in it yet idgaf about anything else mr house is my wifau||

[split gorge]

|| He is ||

[velvet pulsar]

thank you

[split gorge]

|| So when they flashbacked to the board meeting in the beginning, is that guy with the RobCo nameplate house or not? Because if he is wouldn't they have reshoot that scene? ||

[lilac sequoia]

|| I kinda wish they started at Goodsprings but ig it would take forever ||

[plush quest]

||It’s not clear yet but I think the implication is that the house in that meeting was a body double that he uses to attend Vault Tec meetings||

[lilac sequoia]

|| I believe he is acting as House as a decoy. Basically the billionaire persona while real House is going around doing his research and tests ||

|| Like the reason he’d do this ofc is because the public clearly hate him. He’s responsible for taking peoples jobs due to robco ||

[split gorge]

|| oh that's a sick idea! Until said otherwise I'm going with that! ||

[lilac sequoia]

|| House obv wouldnt survive if everyone knew what he looked like in public ||

[split gorge]

|| But him in the bar using the device, But I guess he needed to test the thing ||

[desert skiff]

|| I do wonder what this means regarding the options and outcomes we had in new vegas ||

[split gorge]

|| well. The house Always wins ||

[long falcon]

Still love that the CC called Bud, Bud's Brain on a Rumba.

[plush quest]

||It means somehow… House returned||

[desert skiff]

|| this might be a huge stretch, but what if the house that we could kill in the game would be retconned into being a double ||

[split gorge]

|| would house give immortality to a body double though? ||

[long falcon]

||Like a test for 6.||

[plush quest]

||That’s likely the angle they’re going for I think. They did say the man was planning for every contingency||

[desert skiff]

|| yeah, that line about every contingency makes me think that perhaps he did have a trick up his sleeve for an outcome like this ||

[lilac sequoia]

|| doubt the body double we kill is the fake house, this is still a fairly expensive life support even the nuka cola CEO could only afford putting his head in a capsule ||

[regal lodge]

Not sure where to post it, but I just released the first New Vegas mod for Season 2 of the show! Not a spoiler since it was in the trailer; it recreated the custom NCR Power Armor shown.

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/95097

Probably gonna release more in the next few weeks, since I got a lot of ideas after that first episode. ||Recreated Vault 24 maybe?||

[plush quest]

||with the mind control brain chips that house in the life support pod could literally be anybody||

[desert skiff]

|| also, do we think Coopers family is among the frozen vault dwellers that just got thawed? ||

[lilac sequoia]

|| I also think House having a contingency for even the courier killing him kinda kills the weight of the player’s choice. What was good about defying House was how angry he became as if not expecting you to reject the wealth and promise because you had ulterior motives. I think it makes sense the courier left him alive but disconnected only for a possible contingency plan for that ||

|| Like House’s whole character appeal is he controls everyone so when you the player is NOT in his control. He has a crashout over it ||

[long falcon]

||No, I don't think so. Vault 31 is an experiment eventhough it has executives. Barb was talking about getting in a nonexperiment Vault.||

[desert skiff]

|| wasn't she implying to go to a vault for management in season 1 though? I guess it could still be something else ||

[long falcon]

||Maybe 31 is for junior exeutives?||

[desert skiff]

|| That's a good point ||

[lilac sequoia]

Like i dont think the courier will appear because they are you, the player. And they are always known as the random variable of a complex equation. You come in, cause chaos, leave.

[long falcon]

Leaving a massive trail of bodies behind you.

[plush quest]

||Who do you think Hank was reporting to at the end? On first impression you think House but it’s just vague enough to be a fake out. Personally I hope it was the Enclave he was speaking to||

[lilac sequoia]

|| hes def tryna join the Enclave ||

|| In fo76, you could join the enclave and you had access to Nuclear weapons ||

[desert skiff]

|| I would assume house or the enclave, though maybe it's also something new we haven't heard of yet ||

[plush quest]

||The Enclave would definitely be interested in completing the mind control chip research||

[long falcon]

||Hot tip Hank the Poseidon Oil Rig is gone.||

[desert skiff]

|| though i think he was trying to contact house, as in the lab he was in there were also mind control devices that were being worked on ||

[lilac sequoia]

|| You also have to remember the Enclave was defeated because the Brotherhood and NCR. It makes sense Hank operated to eliminate both ||

|| Theres also the possibility Hank is a spy for House since he says vegas was his stomping grounds ||

[plush quest]

||There’s cut content in 76 suggesting they still have a strong foothold in the Norfolk Naval Base in southern Virginia||

[desert skiff]

|| it's most definitely house, and otherwise maybe Hank had some kind of friend who was also high up and somehow alive 200 years later ||

|| also, in the season 2 preview at the end we do see people working at the desks in that big vault tec complex, but I'm almost sure that they're all under mind control. ||

|| hold up, mr house had a brother that owned H&H Tools right? It could be that one of either implied house characters could be Anthony House ||

[split gorge]

|| What did y'all think about the Commie vault? Vault 24? ||

[desert skiff]

|| hm no after reading the wiki it doesn't seem to align with the rivalry between the brothers||

[graceful rose]

Nice seeing primm in the credits

[plush quest]

||What are the implications of Vault 24? Vault Tec was brainwashing americans to use in false flag operations to stir up anti Chinese sentiment to help them sell more Vaults most definitely||

||But how far does that extend? Like are the communists we meet in 76 the result of this false flag brain washing?||

[desert skiff]

|| i hope it gets elaborated further in the coming episodes ||

|| we also see only one mr house appear on the lucky 38 monitor in the trailer so far, and the mr house in the vault tec meeting and on the billboards is the other one. So I'd think that one is just the public face / potential decoy ||

Anyway I'm off to bed, it's been nice talking with yall

[hallow sail]

lucy also isn't grabbing ANYTHING....how she gonna craft stuffs or sell junk for caps 😮

[desert skiff]

5am here rn

[plush quest]

I was thinking that myself. If I were the player controlling Lucy I would’ve taken that box of sugar bombs with me

But I get that it’s narratively symbolic of her further distancing herself from her dad

[hallow sail]

lucy is NOT the typical fallout player 🤣

[plush quest]

She was just complaining how hungry she was a few scenes ago!

[tiny saddle]

What if I’m the result of brain washing? 🥹

[hallow sail]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[plush quest]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-wash-washing-brain-get-help-brainrot-stan-twitter-gif-18201109234677105211

[hallow sail]

she needs some perfect bubblegum

[split gorge]

Ooooooo didn't think about that

[plush quest]

||I checked and they already did that in 76. Except it was a psyop conducted by the DIA instead of Vault Tec||

Cool to see it be referenced here though. They even use the same swirling projector image that they use in game

[reef bloom]

Season 1 already feels so small in comparison

Holy crap what an episode

[plush quest]

They did say this season was for the fans

The first season was meant to introduce a new audience to the world

[lilac sequoia]

|| So basically Vault Tec didnt drop the bombs literally. They advertised their services with the Enclave probably in collaboration to create false alarm air raids which were tests but ofc some people didnt know when you’re given like a 10 second headstart ||

[verbal spoke]

||I know I thought earlier that the second Mr House is a body double but what if one of the Houses is Anthony House? The H&H Nail gun reference at the beginning could have hinted towards that...||

[lilac sequoia]

well no Anthony House was outcompeted by Robert House and went insane

He and his brother had corporate rivalry if u read the terminals

[verbal spoke]

I'm still mostly on the side of he's a body double. I just thought the reference could be interesting if it may have had a bigger meaning.

[lilac sequoia]

|| Well unless the lore was changed. Anthony House did not like Robert at all. He also went mad with paranoia and engaged in conspiracy theory ultimately locking himself up and died due to faulty security ||

|| The reason he’d reference H&H is because he inherited it but left zero money as his half brother kicked him out ||

[verbal spoke]

||idk if this would even be a spoiler but the little fake Fallout S2 talkshow has FISTO in it lol||

[lilac sequoia]

|| The flea soup for 2 caps btw is very generous ||

[foggy garden]

Gonna have to go dark here until after the season is over. See ya'll in February.

[unique sedge]

Anyone else having problems with the dialog not playing on the show? It's not just on Fallout but other prime shows it's happening too. But older movies play fine.

[ivory sage]

No sir

[unique sedge]

Damn

Like the sounds and everything else I can hear fine

[ivory sage]

Try deleting the app ? Or signing in and out

[unique sedge]

Yeah gonna try that. The trailer plays normal too. So weird

Okay found the fix! We're watching it on a ps4 so we went to our ps4 audio settings and changed it to Dolby and now it works.

[split gorge]

What if we see Nate in the TV show? (Nate from fallout 4)

[spark nova]

Nate the Rake?

some cool BTS info here https://www.amazon.com/Fallout-Season-2/dp/B0FLSZBRZJ

[lofty prairie]

Guys why was legate lanius in the episode 2 preview im concerned why hes shrunk about 2 feet

[lilac sequoia]

pretty sure its macaulay culkin character

[spark nova]

Legate Minimus

[lilac sequoia]

its probably someone who is wearing the armor after he idk maybe died

[lofty prairie]

Made me laugh

[lunar thorn]

I liked the new episode : )

Legate Lanius being small is weird tho

[spark nova]

would be funny if Lanius became a mythical figure that's really just a different guy in the original's iconic armor, Lanius never quite recovered from losing his shins at Hoover Dam.

[lunar thorn]

Watch it be Macaulay Culkin who’s Lanius

[fallow sand]

||How does this episode unlock with the game btw ? I feel like i learned something more crazier.||

[fallow sand]

fr. ||i feel like i learned alot & once this season is over ima do a new run on fallout new vegas|| 😆

[fallow sand]

||i wouldnt be surprised with vault tecs sinister experiments||

[frozen badger]

||they put Neuralink in fallout||

[desert skiff]

|| anyone know what was up with that airship in the first couple seconds of the episode? Looks like the prydwen model but the scene plays out before the war ||

[lusty lark]

||That's ironically what we find at Camp Liberty. Pretty much the exact same hypnotic conditioning. Think: MK Ultra but turned to 11.

So, it doesn't surprise me that Vault Tec would do the same.

After all: They were connected with the US military/government. Camp Liberty was definitely a "let's see how this works in two scenarios" kind of deal.

Really shows how screwed up pre-War America truly was. It's no wonder Cpt. Roger Maxson rebelled at Mariposa. It's no wonder many survivors were terrified of the vaults. Or even how demonic Vault Tec truly was. The Free States in Appalachia were right on the money to be wary about their intentions.||

I can't wait for episode 2 on Christmas Eve!

[orchid lake]

I hope the Enclave returns in it, I want to see those Stars and Stripes again damnit!

Imagine the Enclave flying into Vegas in a squadron of Vertibirds, clad in power armor and energy weapons, ready to obliterate everyone in their way while the Battle Hymn of the Republic plays in the background

[coral juniper]

That'd be hard after a majority of their forces were decimated in 2, 3, remnants hunted down on both coasts and what we see with the fallout 4 quest more dead

As far as we know that outpost in season 1 which looked like a run down factory could be nothing but a small holdout, not enough to actually survive against a fighting force, especially considering we see no enclave power armor meaning resources could be limited

Free States are the most right Fallout faction

[distant breach]

i want mmmooorrreee

[distant breach]

nope

minuteman are

[coral juniper]

Minutemen are barely a faction. Free States lean more into the whole mutual aid and mutual defense aspect of their brand of anarchism

[fallow sand]

the responders are the true saviors

[plush quest]

The Responders would be if this new batch wasn’t being be puppetted by “Mr. Otis”

[fallow sand]

so they're owned by corpos too huh. dam i really liked em.

[plush quest]

The original group headed by Maria Chavez is probably the most altruistic purely good-intentioned group in the series

They’re basically everything the Followers of the Apocalypse are trying to be

[storm grove]

enclave is as dead as it should be

[green hatch]

Anyone else notice the first scene in the show was the motel where you meet Boone in new vegas

[minor lark]

Well that was a good start to the season. Lotta set up. Loved seeing the cut NV vault being used.

[plush quest]

I like that they started in media res for the first scene. Really frontloads the action

It also did a tight job at highlighting Lucy and the Ghoul’s main conflict this season

[unborn granite]

Really hit home when Marty Robbins started singing

[green hatch]

I can't wait til Max comes back he's my favorite

[plush quest]

The next episode teaser looks so hype. I hope that’s all in one episode and not a teaser for like the whole season

[green hatch]

Strong black brotherhood soldier with a moral compass that thinks beyond the brotherhood brainwashing

[plush quest]

we even learned Kumail Nanjiani’s character name. Paladin Xander Harkness

[green hatch]

It looks like he gets some good battle scenes that brotherhood training paying off

[plush quest]

I like that Maximus is struggling with his morally grey character in a very morally grey faction

[green hatch]

I wonder if we'll get to see the maxson bloodline soon

[green hatch]

Very much so

[plush quest]

My money is that we won’t get a face reveal until season 3

[green hatch]

Hes breaking out of those brotherhood prejudices

Maybe hell become an NCR ranger instead🤔

[plush quest]

He’s starting to. His character at the beginning was very deep in the kool-aid over being a knight though

[green hatch]

After his moral battle is complete

[plush quest]

That’d be cool. I’m interested to see where that NCR power armor comes into play

[green hatch]

Max in the ranger armor and coat would go hard

And the NCR is more tolerant of ghouls and mutants

[plush quest]

Oh yeah Thaddeus will 100% have a role to play in his change of heart this season

Apparently he’s the leader of some kind of children’s commune or something

[green hatch]

Yeah I saw that

Little lamplight maybe🤔

[plush quest]

Too far from the location of the show, but maybe a similar deal

[green hatch]

Isn't lamplight Mojave?

[plush quest]

Capital I believe

[green hatch]

Oh it is

I'm confusing my game lore

[limpid edge]

||What happened to Dogmeat?||

[weak kayak]

I think he’s becoming something akin to either the master or Harold

||I hate what they did to novac loved big iron being blared but where Boone||

Overall thought it was a solid 7/10 episode nice mediator to start the season

[long falcon]

I don't think Boone could have fired on a Khan after what he went through.

[orchid lake]

Man we all know Bethesda will never let the Enclave die, same with the Brotherhood

[weak kayak]

I’m just curious tbh

||If he’s dead because of them I’m gonna be a bit annoyed||

[long falcon]

Yep, me to. He was the follower I used the most.

[coral juniper]

Yea they'll keep making them remnants and targets to shoot

[weak kayak]

I am curious whether the tunnellers are going to crop up

Due to what Ulysses said in the last new vegas dlc

[tidal tendon]

Boone would be what, in his 40s? Probably doesn't live there anymore, ||and from the looks of it no one but the Great Khans were there at this point||

[weak kayak]

Do we still all believe no bark is chosen one from fallout 2 yeah?

[tidal tendon]

Haha I'd never heard that theory. I like it.

[orchid lake]

He sounds as crazy as someone like the Chosen One would've been too

[sterile ermine]

I only just started the episode and already noticed they got the Novac dino the wrong way round, he looks away from the apartments not at them

[native patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[marble yoke]

and there was no pool in game

[plush quest]

There’s bound to be some inconsistencies between two different mediums. The Dino facing the town works better for the scene and it doesn’t really make that much of a difference imo.

[orchid lake]

Could've been built later, it's been almost 20 years

[plush quest]

Looks like you can still snipe old ladies from that position

[orchid lake]

Maybe Boon used his sheer willpower to move the Dino so he could snipe Jeanie's ghost or something in the town

[native patrol]

I'm a huge New Vegas fan, and I actually didn't even notice that inconsistency

I just love that there's more Fallout, and it's genuinely good

[plush quest]

They said the next season is for the fans and they definitely delivered on it

The first season was about setting up the world for an audience who weren’t familiar with the property

[native patrol]

I actually think they improved Mr. House as a character so far, even with just the one episode.

They definitely are keeping in line with his need for control.

[sterile ermine]

I know, but it really annoyed me lol

[orchid lake]

Exactly, also liked the cliffhanger at the end of the episode

[sterile ermine]

(I know it does t matter )

[orchid lake]

I still think that the dude at the VT meeting was a body double and this is the real Mr House

[native patrol]

Yeah, for sure.

[plush quest]

I like that it’s not 1 for 1 with the games. 2010 graphics leave a lot to be desired

[orchid lake]

Plus it means we can see stuff from future games in NV now instead of just keeping the stuff we saw in the game

[native patrol]

They recreated the areas faithfully enough that I'm content with the inconsistencies tbh, but I also see how some minor ones could be just a little annoying.

[marble yoke]

so why didn't the ghoul visit new vegas much earlier to talk to mr house? ||If he was 25 years ago in Novac||

[plush quest]

I can’t wait to see places like Free Side and the strip proper

[native patrol]

Also, it's been 15 years since we've been to New Vegas and I'm just happy to see it again xD

[orchid lake]

Probably couldn't get to Vegas

[native patrol]

Probably not enough caps to pay the 2000 cap entry fee xD

[marble yoke]

just hop on the monorail!

[orchid lake]

Also yk, the Courier probably was still around and not even the Ghoul could risk fighting that force of nature

[native patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-good-point-agree-makes-sense-agreed-good-idea-gif-16556116

[ebon oracle]

Ok, here's what I think. ||Whether you side with the NCR, Legion, Yes Man, Mr. Hosue, it ultimately doesn't matter in the end. Because whether the NCR or other factions win the Battle of Hoover Dam or not, I think Mr. House would win in the end regardless whether we choose our factions, because I think Mr. House might have some contingency plans if there's a scenario that he might either be killed by Legion or NCR, or in rare cases, have Mr. House' body imobilized, Mr. House might find a way to survive whether his plans in the events of New Vegas succeeds or not. I think to him, if we have NCR or Legion win New Vegas in the game, he might eventually see that as a minor setback and has something up his sleave.||

[ebon oracle]

That might not be Legate Lanius. Might be someone else.

[pseudo prism]

Why were there great khans in Novac?

[ebon oracle]

They're raiders. They like to raid and make territory and get chems.

[pseudo prism]

But how did they take it

[ebon oracle]

We'll find out in future episodes. I'm guessing it might be because ||whether we side with the NCR, Legion, or other factions, there was probably chaos after the events of New Vegas and whatever happened, probably made some power vaccum.||

Remember, the NCR and the Legion overextend themselves.

[pseudo prism]

I hope so because I had thought if you don’t basically convince them to fight for you or if you side with the legion they kinda disappear

[ebon oracle]

Because this is my speculative answer of why New Vegas might be like this in the show. That's the tragedy of war. War never changes.

[pseudo prism]

[ebon oracle]

Come to think of it, since Khans are still around, then I would have to assume the Legion didn't win New Vegas. The Khans aren't exactly the good guys, but at least we get to know them from their perspective in New Vegas.

[crisp grail]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/12/17/fallout-season-2-just-set-three-rotten-tomatoes-records/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1450903228890746890/image.png?ex=69443a6e&is=6942e8ee&hm=3e663aa022f4935f38d52bdc88fb18dbdca36f6bb96f104118404aed640eedf3&

[ebon oracle]

Fallout TV show has done it again. As a guy with a Halo Spartan Mark V profile pic, I'd give those who made the fake "Halo TV Show" the middle finger and would defend the Fallout TV show despite Fallout TV show's flaws, any slander it might receive.

In fact, right now, it's making me want to play New Vegas like right now.

[orchid lake]

Fr

[hoary lance]

Is it an episode a week or is it bingeable?

[chilly hedge]

So... ||Is this stranger supposed to be Mr House? If so, why are we still seeing footage of the old actor?||

[ebon oracle]

A week.

[ebon oracle]

||That might be his body double, or a clone of his younger self.||

[hoary lance]

Ok. I'll catch it once it's bingeable then. Thanks!

[reef hinge]

They PR speak said the endings are going to be ignored

[forest fractal]

I hope their upcoming civil war crushes the brotherhood.

[gray badger]

https://x.com/i/status/2001352026140098842

CharlieIntel (@charlieINTEL)

Fallout TV show collab with Call of Duty for Black Ops 7 x Warzone Season 01 Reloaded

X · Dec 17, 2025, 6:01 PM

Bruh, I actually might try Black Ops 7 just for this

[frozen badger]

At least it looks better than their last collab

[red forge]

I think I have an idea of who "Man in shadows" is.

[red forge]

So my theory is the "Man in shadows" from season 1, in that big corporate round table room meeting, is ||related to the Enclave||.

[jolly olive]

Dear Bethesda I just wanted to say I loved the new season premiere y’all do fabulous work

I can’t wait for a soothing sounds of the apocalypse part 2 on vinyl as I love listening to the first one in my record player all the time

Happy holidays

[tidal tendon]

Let's be careful not to discuss irl current politics in the chat.

[red forge]

https://tenor.com/view/doh-gif-6304240952424168918

[rain matrix]

The ghoul said vault 4 would be the best case scenario wouldn't vault 76 be the best case scenario?

[plush quest]

We don’t know how it plays out for the 76ers. The popular fan theory is that they launched so many nukes that they got torched in Nuclear Winter

[undone mauve]

I just watched the First episode for season 2. And I want to say I love the episode especially the scene with the Ghoul shooting the Great Khans while playing Big Iron it was amazing!

[red forge]

I think he was suggesting "A" best case scenario.

"A", not "THE".

[reef hinge]

Vault 76 is a control vault, you can see it referenced in Fallout 3 in the citadels computer system

I mean the whole Vault Tec experiment is nonsensical IRL, but the idea of having control vaults makes sense

And to some extent the Vaults did work, Shady Sands was started by people in 15

I dont remember if Vault Tec being evil happened in 2 or Tactics

[nocturne citrus]

It was revealed towards the end of Fallout 2 which was a twist at the time I think

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1450947327996198932/IMG_0883.png?ex=69446380&is=69431200&hm=d614d3c85025c513b4612ba4a2e7718c4edb62690e5193249f79b1f55c753e01& The Dogs from Season 1

look familiar

[rain matrix]

Mr house this mr house that im wondering when does dr house show up

[hollow oasis]

more actually, a lot of the vaults were designed to fail, but some of them were not perfect but not bad, and it was the dwllers that ruined it for themselves

[limpid edge]

What happened to dogmeat? She ran into vault 24 but, did not come out with Lucy and the ghoul.

[spark nova]

she died on her way back to her home planet

[hollow oasis]

how dare ||Lucy throw that commie ushanka to the side. I wouldve worn that on my character. free hat||

[storm grove]

it was a good hat

i imagine ||vault 24 was just experimenting with brainwashing, the fact that we see communists there is going to be a red (heh) herring||

also its not communists exactly, its the stereotype that old world USA had of them before the war

like the dlc anchorage

[plush quest]

||I assume they were brainwashing Americans into conducting false flag operations to sow fear to raise war tensions and sell more vaults

A similar thing happened in Camp Liberty. They’re even playing the same projector tape||

[storm grove]

ooh, interesting. i hadn't played 76, just googled that

[hollow oasis]

ok so... I think they just confirmed ||that the NCR being the sheriff replacement is the canon choice for Primm. They done disrespected my boy primm slimm||

[storm grove]

how come?

[hollow oasis]

the end credits

[storm grove]

oh i skipped em

[red forge]

If MCU has taught us anything, don't skip credits anymore

[hollow oasis]

anyways with this in mind, we are so far ||leading with the NCR being the most likely canon for a lot of events, cant say all, but its probably the case that if the NCR was involved during a quest or whatever, its likely they were sided with||

Theres some thinking fuel until next weeks episode.

[red forge]

Well, as trends have it, everyone's flocked to "Working for the Man" video on the official Roy Orbison youtube channel to comment about the show's use of the song.

[hollow oasis]

i absolutely love how the fallout show, just really shows how little of an impact we had during our gameplay of the fallout games, the world is that screwed up still, but it makes sense because...can really 1 person fix a wasteland?

[red forge]

The 2nd quest in the Discord promo quest is now live.

[merry sandal]

release the full show !!! having to wait like this to starve the fans is just cruel

[vale girder]

Why are they releasing one episode a week, that’s disgraceful and abhorrent behaviour. They released the entire season 1 all together.

[crisp grail]

while i know it sucks, they only do this with shows they think are going to be big hits to stretch out the chatter about the show

[vale girder]

I bought an extra big bag of potato chips and I couldn’t even get through a quarter of the bag before I realised the pipe dream was abruptly over

The expensive ones too

It ruined my night, and made me restless

I tossed and turned all night

They didn’t even do what Netflix did which is not great but better than drip feeding one episode, release like 4-5 episodes than the rest a month or so later

This is a disgrace!

I can’t even remember what happened already…..

[merry sandal]

yeah ik , what they doing rn is bad

[vale girder]

Now next Tuesday I won’t know what’s going on

[red forge]

Moderation, my dude. It's about moderation.
We got lucky they dumped season 1 in entirety, which seemed to have been a surprise as it was.

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-shut-your-mouth-slap-slapping-gif-8050553153066707611

Moderation can go moderate somewhere else, we want the entire season

[merry sandal]

yeah well they shouldnt do that , season 1 full release was a good thing and they should do it on season 2

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-cute-slamming-gif-17531055

[merry sandal]

this is all about keeping ppl subscribed to prime videos for money , they dont care about what fans want

[red forge]

... well yeah

[vale girder]

The fans want episode 1-8 to be put out to watch at our leisure

[red forge]

Game of Thrones was a weekly release.

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/thin-ice-general-mark-r-naird-steve-carell-space-force-warning-gif-17463682

And look how that turned out for them

[red forge]

https://tenor.com/view/vinny-my-cousin-lovetohearthis-gif-19250981

[merry sandal]

il just wait for all the episodes to come out because waiting will just make it worse for me

[vale girder]

I’m sure we can all unanimously agree that it was drawn out and the final season was hated by everyone

And I didn’t even watch it

I got bored of it 3 seasons in

[red forge]

The reception of the very end of the last season is inconsequential to this.

[vale girder]

You’re inconsequential to this

In fact I think you made the decision to release the episodes on a weekly basis

https://tenor.com/view/get-him-south-park-its-christmas-in-canada-s7e15-seize-him-gif-22110406

[graceful rose]

Did the ghoul mean Carla when he said darla? Just out of curiosity

[vale girder]

I can’t remember it was so long ago

[graceful rose]

Oof I just remembered Boone and Carla only moved there in 2280 so after the ghoul last visited 😭

[vale girder]

I think the first episode was kind of all over the place they were switching between characters and than going back in time than back to present than over to another character, than back in time again and oop we’re back to present

But it was the first episode, so I still have hope it will sort itself out and live up to the greatness of the first season

[red forge]

Well it's not as if we can understand pre-war plot elements through the characters just reading nothing but computer terminals.

[weak kayak]

Probably an oversight in the script

[graceful rose]

Was sad to see the khans took over Novac, so I’m guessing the deathclaw problem at quary junction was taken care of so no one really has to go the long way around

[weak kayak]

Or it’s to show he’s probably in the early stages of losing his memories

[vale girder]

Probably only saw her once a week

[weak kayak]

It would make his drive to find his family more meaningful if it’s the case

I also kinda liked house using a front man to impersonate him for the media side of things

[vale girder]

I just want to know what happened to the BoS at Hidden Valley Bunker

Maybe we’re going to see a little East vs West with the Brotherhood

A clash of ideals

Going to probably have to wait a few weeks to find out

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-i-hate-it-i-dont-like-it-hate-it-gif-20134478

[spark nova]

So someone started calling the House body double Venom House and I think that's great

[long falcon]

So impatient, a weekly release was the standard for decades. Be glad you don't have to endure the mid-season hiatus. However we did get 20 plus episodes a season back then.

[spark nova]

And there's supposed to be new BTS content on the website after every episode to check out

[red forge]

BTS?

[spark nova]

Behind the scenes, on the Amazon site Yes Man will guide you thru 3D scene tours, storyboards, production photos, etc.

[red forge]

ahh

[reef hinge]

Is there a pinned link to the discord quest?

[spark nova]

And it looks like there's gonna be new content dropped there weekly on the game map

[reef hinge]

Also weekly episodes are meant to be enjoyed, slop is binged

[red forge]

https://discord.com/quests/1445133129382891662

[reef hinge]

I can only view the reward >.<

Says the quest has expired

[red forge]

I think you had to have started it by a certain date.

[hollow oasis]

Are you on mobile

[crisp grail]

25 episodes for season 1 of lost

[dry thistle]

Do radscorpions or other buggies show up in the first episode of S2? I know they're probably gonna show up sometime this season going by that one poster, I just wanna know ahead of time so I can warn my girlfriend.

[crisp grail]

radroaches i think are it

[red forge]

||In the mid/post credits||

This episode ||just showed primarily heads exploding||

[orchid lake]

Literally

[lofty prairie]

I hope we get to see Arthur Maxson.

[lusty lark]

Well, at least we now know who the Brotherhood Officer that befriends Maximus is from the trailer: ||A Brotherhood Paladin named Xander Harkness, from the Commonwealth Chapter. Makes sense: Especially since we didn't see any Paladins in the first season. Also, apparently Dane has been reassigned as a Scribe (according to what was posted all over about the Brotherhood). So, we get to actually see Scribes at their fullest.||

[lofty prairie]

The brotherhood forever

[grizzled gate]

and ||flea soup||

[plush quest]

Umm excuse me… there’s a fly in my ||flea soup||

[frozen badger]

Extra protein

[reef hinge]

Hmmm can spoilers for the next episode be labeled as much? I want to try to go into each episode as blind as possible.

Maybe others do to

[red forge]

They are, and it's a server rule, and in this room's topic.

That's what the ||spoiler tag|| is all about.

[reef hinge]

The thing is, you can't tell what the spoiler is until you click it

[red forge]

Well that's the idea of spoilers.

[reef hinge]

Like saying spoilers for next episode:....

[red forge]

If someone does a spoiler tag, and you click it, anything that happens afterwards is on you.

If someone uses spoiler tags, whether or not what they are saying is a spoiler or fake, they are complying with use of the spoiler tag.

[reef hinge]

But the point is if you want to discuss this episode, you want to see spoil tagged stuff, but you can't tell what is for this episode vs the next one, does that make sense

[red forge]

Then that's on you.

If you reveal for yourself what is spoiler tagged, that's on you.

[reef hinge]

Or just write in unspoiled text, this is regarding next episode? its not some crazy request

[red forge]

Anyone can speculate, with a spoiler tag or not.

But only if they are making clear it's their speculation.

[thick patio]

It is literally in the headline of this chat: Please use spoilers for the show! You can use || on either side of what you want to hide

[red forge]

If anyone makes speculation and directly references what is a spoiler, they need to spoiler tag it.

Or should tag it.

If you want to discuss things without spoiler tags, you're best to find another server/community like reddit or whatever that'll allow it.

[hollow oasis]

They assume you are kept up

Im crying right now.
I just saw on Twitter someone was complaining about how ||the dinky dino was facing towards Novac instead of away, and someone commented that their headcanon was that the Khan's moved it towards the pool to do cannonballs||

[red forge]

Purists will complain about nth degree detail.

[cunning rock]

Canon-bawl!

[plush quest]

errrm actually Dinky the Dinosaur is supposed to be rotated 67 degree to the south. It doesn’t make sense that Boone would’ve been able to shoot an elderly lady from that angle because the 4th to last molar is blocking his sight line

[lofty prairie]

Seems like a khan thing to do

[spark nova]

Dinky gets a bit quirky at night and moves around.

[coral juniper]

Wasn't the dinky scene shot at location lol if anything the issue is new vegas got it wrong

[spark nova]

I suppose the considerations of a live-action scene might supersede the digital depiction, after all the Mojave Wasteland has always been a shrunk-down abstraction of the real thing

[red forge]

This is why it's impossible to have 1:1 adaptation between media.

[plush quest]

If the direction Dinky is facing the harshest criticism people have, then I’d say season 2 landed pretty dang well

[weak kayak]

I kinda wish they picked up the unique that gun on their way out

[lilac sequoia]

well the place itself isnt where the dino obsidian took inspiration from existed

They built a real Dinky the Dinosaur statue and then placed it at a random motel

[lilac sequoia]

i dont think its a big deal but you have to admit they placed it incorrectly for the sake of this scene

Like this wasnt done in mind of “we wanna be lore accurate”. They knew Novac had a dinosaur but i dont think the shoe runners understood why the dinosaur faced that direction

Again not a big deal but completely valid to call out this mistake

because Novac didnt have a pool either and there are houses in front where Ranger andy used to stay in

[coral juniper]

Showrunners not understanding fallout is like something that's very obvious with how many things they messed up in s1

[lilac sequoia]

ig my take is i want a good show vs just something that has to be 1:1

[coral juniper]

I want a show that doesn't constantly do "look, thing from game you like please clap"

Or the dumb ironman stuff they did with power armor

[lilac sequoia]

I do think the iron man jet hands is dumb. The helmet latch i understand as u rlly cant just take it off and on realistically

i dont think u can lift ur arms that far up in those suits

but i also dont think the show is trying to do the “Look, thing from game” like thing is thats just how fallout’s world always has been. Theres always Nuka Cola signs or robots or all this stuff

Because Fallout is not like the real world. It has its own norms and this is what it looks like

[coral juniper]

The helmet latch doesn't make sense because there's no hinges on the helmet to make it do that

There's no lines that show how it can do that

It just happens lol

[lilac sequoia]

i mean im not a prop guy so idk how that works but they just managed it ig

The thruster arms is what pisses me off more because its lazy they didnt wanna make a real PA jetpack

which i have a feeling they will never do again

[coral juniper]

It turned an action scene into a comedy yea they're not going to lol

[lilac sequoia]

its also production wise incredibly expensive. They used a real jetpack guy and then cover it with CGI of the suit

like that one scene of just him hovering probably costed millions only for people to dislike it

[orchid lake]

Omg you guys are so nitpicky lmao

[weak kayak]

Will give them credit where it’s due the fallout 1 references were peak, broken waterchip and Bakersfield (the location of where a vault was built and had a malfunction causing the vault to ghoulify)

Praying there’s more of that tied with some hints of what happened after new vegas

[orchid lake]

Imo it's entirely possible that the BoS just added those thrusters in Post-War because they couldn't maintain jetpacks

[lilac sequoia]

its just a goofy addition they just wanted to do an Iron Man thing but forgot that wasnt the reason we like PA.

[orchid lake]

It absolutely makes sense, it could just be really well sealed which is why you don't see anything and the faceplate could be using electromagnetic stuff to move

[weak kayak]

Those jet packs in the power armour for 4 and 76 are massive and are a bit over designed tbh don’t blame them for changing it

But i wouldn’t be opposed to them staying a game thing

[lilac sequoia]

here’s a counter argument. U cant shoot when ur arms are tryna stabilize you. You cant hold ur weapon either

[orchid lake]

I imagine that the T-60 will have both the Jetpack and the arm thrusters and the rest of the suits will just have the jetpack

[lilac sequoia]

So its immediately useless for assault tactics when u cant use a two handed weapon

[orchid lake]

I mean the point of it seems to be to just get into or out of situations quickly, not actually stay in the air which, by the way, would make you a very easy target

[weak kayak]

That would be ideal but its also a tvshow it’s not real life lol

But yeah no 2 handed weapons and you can get away with it

[lilac sequoia]

i mean yea ofc its fiction but like again the Jetpack exists they just wanted to do it for the Iron Man bit

like its way too obvious

[weak kayak]

Like it bugs me don’t get me wrong but it’s one of those things you can pass off easily

[lilac sequoia]

im not annoyed by it, its more so like this is the part i feel in production they didnt know whether they should fully appeal to fans or a certain audience

[weak kayak]

Could be that as well unless they tried the big jetpack and it wasn’t feasible that would be the only consensus I’d see likely being the case

[lilac sequoia]

well the way its done is someone was using a jetpack so it does the effects of well dust and leaves flowing off the ground. And then probably had an actual power armor with wires to replicate the movement over it ig

so post editing with some CGI

because Behind the scenes we know an actual jetpack was used on set

[coral juniper]

It's the writers don't know fallout and heard power armor so their first thought was "whoa just like ironman people love ironman!"

The show only knows how to look like fallout but the moment it opens its mouth it's a collection of gibberish that makes no sense the more you think about it

[woven scaffold]

It’s Fallout tradition to not make sense.

[coral juniper]

Most of fallout makes sense is the thing, the stuff that doesn't isn't the entire story or plot

[storm grove]

is Emil the director lol

[coral juniper]

Even Emil knows more about fallout than Nolan lol

Couldn't find that "people are stupid" quote so instead of spreading misinformation that I might be misremembering I'm just going to retract that statement but I feel the show does actually treat the viewer as stupid by not explaining plot details or giving a clear motive for a majority of what happens like the whole nuking of shady sands

Yet not vault city, the Shi in San Fran, New Reno, new Vegas, the legion, the brotherhood, etc etc as well as the fact we had to have Todd and Emil clarify a lot of details like the "fall of shady sands" or how the NCR isn't completely gone while the show ignored all that because it doesn't actually want you to think

[red forge]

Let people make up their own minds on things.

Speak for yourself, please. This is purist attitude.

[orchid lake]

Fr, most of us love the show and what the writers are doing, Purists are so annoying

[coral juniper]

Like even the whole ||"it was vault-tec all along" doesn't make sense because

1. Shady Sands was built by vault dwellers, with a geck
2. Numerous control vaults opened
3. Why wouldn't vault-tec infiltrate those instead of waiting over 200 years||

"purists" is just an insult to shut down criticism lol

[orchid lake]

We aren't seeing them because we haven't visited where they are, and the BoS simply is there to take advantage of a severely weakened NCR

[red forge]

Calling us stupid based on your implication of how the director wants to convey the story is not criticism, in fact it's borderline conspiracy.

[coral juniper]

I'm not a purist I just want a franchise be respected. For instance I love New Vegas but I also love 76 and 4

[red forge]

If the show was truly the way you're suggesting, it would not be getting the high ratings it has.

[toxic urchin]

I already saw the first episode of fallout yesterday and I liked it only that I have to wait for other episodes to come out until February and it annoys me

[orchid lake]

I mean I can see the resemblance...

[coral juniper]

The show does treat the viewer as stupid is the issue, I'm not calling anyone that, I'm saying the show does not want you to think and just throws plot left and right that doesn't make sense nor explain itself

Like feral-b-gone not even having a name

[red forge]

So then explain the high ratings.

Explain why both us players of the games, AND new people getting into the franchise who have never played, are rating it highly.

[coral juniper]

It's very easy to watch, the characters aren't original but designed to be crowd pleasers, the plot is simple and the set design and cinematography are good. The show has good parts to it, I'm not saying it doesn't the writing is just not one of them

It's filled with issues that are easy to pick apart

[red forge]

It has to appeal to a new crowd who have no idea about Fallout at all.

We're talking roughly 30 years of franchise development.

[coral juniper]

And the show does an absolutely terrible job representing the love and attention to detail devs in those 30 years put into the setting

[woven scaffold]

Pretty sure the first season was often described as a ‘love letter to Fallout’.

Especially since the game devs wrote a lot of it.

[coral juniper]

Yet it constantly needed explanations from outside of the show like the issue with the fall of shady sands being before new Vegas or the state of various parts of new California and it still doesn't explain major setting changes like ghouls needing a drug to avoid feralism, they don't even give the new medicine a name, Lucy doesn't even question what a feral is

She just looks at the ghoul taking his medicine and says nothing, asks nothing, that's not a small change, that's a major thing when scientists on both coasts don't know what actually causes ghouls to go feral

The show couldn't even get right that Hollywood is part of L.A. creating a dissonance when L.A. is presented as the boneyards yet Hollywood is a lush flooded valley for miles on both ends

Or Lucy's vault being a stone's throw from the Master's cathedral and out in the open. The Master could find vaults that are built into mountain sides and hidden away in a cave system but one being a few miles away? Nope just completely stumps him

These aren't even new criticisms or ones I just randomly came up with lol people have been criticizing these issues when s1 came out

[weak kayak]

Also where the hell is vault city

[coral juniper]

That's what I'm saying, there's so many power players that would move into the boneyards or that lil shack town

Also how is there scrap metal towns, the NCR had adobe houses, that knowledge would be common place

[spring lake]

Just finished watching the new episode so excited for the new episodes!

[knotty holly]

what did people think of the first episode, happy to see what looks to be no retcons

[orchid lake]

Excited, Enclave seems to be coming back

[orchid lake]

To be fair the drug could be new

Or just not well known, plus it's only needed AFTER a ghoul starts going feral

[orchid lake]

It's not impossible that he missed the Vault, plus most Super Mutants are kinda stupid even in Fallout 1 lmao

[coral juniper]

It's the show was written by people who don't know fallout, again it's out in the open

[orchid lake]

And? It could've been missed, besides it may have been covered until Hank left it with Lucy's mother

Also, the show is amazing and absolutely written by people who understand Fallout, they may just have a different view of it compared to you

[knotty holly]

Why do you say that?

[knotty holly]

Literally everything is new to her, and the show does a good job of doing show not tell. Cooper looses control a bit or gets weak before he takes the drug, and we are shown that when someone doesn't have vials of it, they go feral. This is vastly preferable to a 60 second conversation where the ghoul just explains the drug in its entirety. It doesn't explain it because it doesn't need to, it trust the viewer enough to infer what it does, which is the show respecting the intelligence of its audience, not the other way around.

[weak kayak]

As first episode it does what it needs to tbh

[knotty holly]

I'm really excited to see what all happens with Norm

[weak kayak]

Norm intrigues me he has no ties to what’s going on outside the vault

[knotty holly]

One of the biggest sins of the show imo is treating it like there are 3 perspective characters as opposed to the 5 we really get
Cooper Howard pre war
The Ghoul
Lucy
Maximus
Norm / the vault in general

[weak kayak]

But I do get the feeling whatever is happening in the main plots mystery i would probably guess the enclave will be the surprise antagonist

Wildcard is the zetans

[knotty holly]

I think we are going to get a titanicly bad decision of China dropping the bombs because of vault tec and somehow also the enclave

That was tye very first thing I thought when I saw the "global communication" sign in the vault tec place Hank goes to

[weak kayak]

I do hope we see Jacobstown or Malcom holmes chasing them down

[coral juniper]

It was not lol it was out in the open, super mutants are not all dumb, the writing is all over the place and is has terrible continuity with the rest of the franchise.

It's not written by people who understand fallout it's written by people who go "this was from game people like put it in" or "this sounds cool don't research anything about the game put it in"

It has a very 13 year old modder quality of understanding Fallout

[orchid lake]

Norm is the true MC

[orchid lake]

Zetans being in the show would actually be peak ngl

[tidal tendon]

Norm is slowly becoming my favorite character.

[orchid lake]

My guess is that China discovers what they're planning/doing and decides to drop the bombs first in an act of desperation, kinda like the original idea of how the great war went down with the Chinese discovering FEV and after the US refused to stop experimenting with it China launched the bombs

[orchid lake]

||Seems like he'll be leading the Vault Dwellers too so I'm intrigued to see how that goes||

[tidal tendon]

Could you spoiler that? Just for those who haven't seen the first episode yet.

[orchid lake]

Oh yeah sorry

[tidal tendon]

But yah same here

I'm always glad for a decent agent of chaos.

[orchid lake]

Honestly I'm really excited to see what happens next, and I also hope that we find out exactly what the heck is going on with Mr House because ||He seems to have a body double or something based off the first episode||

[tidal tendon]

||I'm more interested to know how Cooper and his wife get separated, and how they deal with the fact that she wants to bring about the end of the world lol||

Lol this channel is just going to be full of spoiler tags in the coming weeks.

[orchid lake]

||Same here, I do hope it also explains why his daughter was with him when the bombs dropped||

[orchid lake]

It's gonna be the black ink channel real soon

[tidal tendon]

I think they go to their vault when the bombs dropped, but something happens and Cooper gets separated. (Not spoilers lol, this is speculation off the first season)

[knotty holly]

I'm hoping that is the direction they go, I really want it to be the chinese who dropped the bombs and it be independent of anyone else

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2001697842415771754

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

The Snake Oil Salesman is hosting his own Fallout Fake Talkshow, with new episodes releasing weekly

First guest is Ella Purnell

X · Dec 18, 2025, 4:55 PM

There are two episodes thus far, Ella and justin therox

[tidal tendon]

Yeah that feels more canon anyway

[orchid lake]

Yeah I'm guessing maybe Barb let in her daughter and then shoved Cooper right back out into the newly formed wasteland

[orchid lake]

WHAT

[tidal tendon]

Maybe, or maybe something even crazier. Hopefully something crazier lol.

[knotty holly]

I am interested to see how much people who don't like fallout feel about this season, like half of what I got excited for in this episode was like, knowing what bakersfield ends up as and stuff like that

[orchid lake]

Yeah and it still allows the evil Vault Tec planning to do something nefarious like dropping the bombs plot but with China beating them to it

[orchid lake]

Hopefully but if it is it's probably gonna be something we never expected

[orchid lake]

I think they probably at least think it's interesting

[knotty holly]

Thats what it felt like with the peeps I was watching it with

[orchid lake]

I honestly am glad that the show is so good, because it's bringing in so many new fans who are getting to experience everything for the first time (plus it means there's more noobs I can dump my un-needed but very good loot on so my stash doesn't fill up lmao)

[knotty holly]

I do think a few moments were a bit too silly, like the whole novac sequences was played a decent bit too silly, and so far the vault stuff that isn't norm is constantly cracking jokes (some of which do land well) but tonally I am interested to see if we get more or less serious, I'm a bit afraid that it will get less serious or is gonna go for more of a juxtaposed approach with moments of very serious and very silly back to back

I'd give episode one a 7.5/10, it's got some good setup for the rest of the season, but its got some serious tone issues

[orchid lake]

Well that usually is what the first episode of a season is, usually the bangers are either the endings or midpoints

[knotty holly]

That last part I disagree with, I think season 1s best episode might have been episode 1 lol

[orchid lake]

Really? How come?

[weak kayak]

That’s the wildcard I have for the explanation for all of the plot

[orchid lake]

Imagine they do a massive fakeout where it looks like VT and the US launched first, only to suddenly show aliens actually doing it and confirming the theory that the Zetans actually caused the great war after all

[knotty holly]

Perfect opening, the vault sequence was really fun and had a perfect way of making lucy list off her "build" in a way that felt really natural. The whole fight sequence was great, really good intrigue, the ghoul was incredibly done episode 1, maximus pre leaving the compound is played a fair bit more seriously and I think it works better, and overall just really amazing setup for what was to come, I do thinkthe best moments of the show are further in, specifically the talk with the ghoul, lucy, and the friendly ghoul who is turning feral.

[orchid lake]

Alright that makes sense

Although my favorite line during that convo was "Well, ass-jerky don't make itself"

[weak kayak]

It would be hilarious tbh

[chilly hedge]

So the couple pushing for wincest in the therapy scene... Do we know how they are related? Cousins?

[weak kayak]

Both red heads..

[orchid lake]

Although I think to not detract from the messaging they should still make it obvious that whether the Zetans did so or not, the world would've ended in nuclear fire, either by China, America, VT, or something/someone else

[chilly hedge]

So unclear. Cousins can both be redheads

[knotty holly]

It is like, an amazing way of making you realize that for all the kindness Lucy has, she truly is naive and doesn't understand what she is up against. If she tried being nice to that guy alone she would be dead without question. Instead the ghoul gives him something to smile about in his final moments before giving him a way out with dignity instead of turning into something he would hate. In a weird way, the one who is more morally upstanding in that scene is The Ghoul.

[chilly hedge]

I think we can say despite what Coop believes, House did not end the world. He wouldn't have been a day late on the platinum chip if he was

[knotty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-12198571562833607016

[chilly hedge]

People try to judge the world of fallout with our modern ideals and logic. But the only justice is vigilante justice. Sometimes all you can do is make someone comfortable

[chilly hedge]

Curiosity

[orchid lake]

I think the Ghoul still has a bit of Cooper hidden in him, he just tries so hard to distance himself from that part of himself because of likely guilt, feelings of betrayal, and losing faith in humanity, kinda like the Anakin-Vader thing

[orchid lake]

Well if you're in the NCR I think it's pretty fair to judge it with modern ideals and logic, outside of it though, ehhhhhhh

[chilly hedge]

This is why I personally support the NCR in New Vegas

[orchid lake]

Yeah, because for all the flaws it has (it has many, don't get me wrong here), it is the only faction which genuinely can improve in the long term and gives the best chance at a good life for people at the end of the day, even though their taxes are atrocious lmao

[knotty holly]

I really like the "the ghoul is a character being played by cooper howard" line of thinking. He couldn't live with himself being a monster so he plays "the ghoul" at all times because "the ghoul" would kill people for looking at him funny and "the ghoul" would become a cannibal. Any moment when coop starts to show back up threatens the security he gets from being "a character" all the time and he shoves it back down. He is currently dealing with reconciling this along with the guilt that comes from realizing that being an evil sack of garbage for 200 years means you arent a character, thats just who you are now

[chilly hedge]

The thing is, as long as humanity is fighting radiation and the creatures mutated by it, they need factions that can protect them. Factions like the Brotherhood. When I played fallout 4, I sided with them because they were the best equipped to protect the Commonwealth, even if they might not be the best force to lead it

[orchid lake]

And it's actually really realistic too

[knotty holly]

I mean, thats if you think the commonwealth is only the humans, if you view ghouls, intelligent mutants, or synths as people they are genocidal in nature

Which for the record, I think is a mark in the games favor, not an issue

I love the fact that 4s brotherhood has moral complexities, even if I'd like for there to be more there

[orchid lake]

Trauma causes things like that, and he DEFINITELY went through some trauma

[orchid lake]

Minutemen forever!

[chilly hedge]

I wish the institute was more neounced than they are

I really cannot justify siding with them outside of for the achievement/trophy

[orchid lake]

That's why I got the Subversion mod to allow you to actually improve them

[chilly hedge]

See I'm a console player. I can't deviate too much from the vanilla experience

[knotty holly]

Eh, minutemen are so boring though, 0 complexity, 1 memorable character, a mountain of annoying settlement quests and repeated dialogue. They are generic good guys which makes me sad

[orchid lake]

Fair enough I suppose, but that's what SS2's for, and the Commonwealth Responders too

[chilly hedge]

I tried to side with them last playthrough. They got bugged and I couldn't continue

[orchid lake]

Damn that sucks

[knotty holly]

If you play someone who prioritizes power / knowledge over morals it works, but I agree the institute is like, half baked at best

[knotty holly]

76 lore, in MY single player fallout? How upsetting

[chilly hedge]

Maybe when I do my Shotgun only run, I'll make Doctor Shotgun and go Institute. Doctor Shotgun is my evil character from the Outer Worlds series lol

[knotty holly]

I always play as Nate but with different hair styles and levels of morality

sometimes if I want a smart Nate I'll name him Nathaniel

[chilly hedge]

Could be interesting to try an actual raider run of Nuka world. Usually I wipe out the raiders

[knotty holly]

gives you an excuse to actually bring cait along during base game too

[chilly hedge]

I married Cait in my very first run after i got her off drugs

Or romanced her anyways

[reef hinge]

I dont know who is worse the Bethesda NMA haters or the Mr. House Redditor haters

The show has flaws for sure, but its not bad

[knotty holly]

I do not vibe with any of the female romance options in 4 as far as romancing them goes, great characters, just not for shaking up with imo

[reef hinge]

It does seem like they have pulled back on humor a bit which i appreciate

[knotty holly]

idk, that flea soup thing was really stupid

like, not particularly funny kinda stupid

in contrast, our first random encounter type beat in season 1 was diaper man who drank all of lucys water who's aunt died in filly once, which was very funny

[reef hinge]

I mean its taste, I thought it was way less over the top

[knotty holly]

to this seasons credit, I like the music selection a lot, it fits wonderfully

[errant sandal]

when’s the next episode?

[knotty holly]

I am secretly hoping we ditch the johnny cash in season 2, it just didn't hit fallout vibes for me even if it's the right time period

[chilly hedge]

I mean I don't look at it from a me perspective. If I did, I probably would never romance a character because none of them are that appealing to me personally. I look at the character I'm making and what their goals and desires are.

[orchid lake]

Lmao

[orchid lake]

"Ah yes, I am the esteemed Nathaniel, and I am now your leader, as you ingrates don't seem capable of building even basic homes or infrastructure." He says in a British accent while sipping tea in a top hat and a monocle on his head

[knotty holly]

this is why the best follower is old longfellow, just trying to get drunk and have a good time

[orchid lake]

Based Old Longfellow

[red forge]

Mate, quit it with the conspiracy-like claims. If this was the case, the show would've bombed (no pun intended), and yet it hasn't.
Either watch the show, or don't.

[fierce finch]

Just watched S2 EP1, absolutely loved it 😄

[red forge]

If you don't like how the show is written, good for you, but stop claiming that the rest of us are being led on a false-narrative by the writers.

[fierce finch]

As a long time (since first game when released) fallout fan, i think they’ve done a very good job of moving it to a TV show, while making it accessible to non players at the same time …

They are creating some of their own lore via the show, which is likely to inject back in to the games, but thats part and parcel of something like this, it doesnt just have to go one way when the creative force is still primarily in Beths hands

[spark nova]

it's all a false flag to make FNV diehards look even more insufferable /j

[fierce finch]

I love the minor West Tek reference on the radio when coopers in his kitchen 😄

[spark nova]

I'm very excited to see the T-45 in Alaska

[fierce finch]

Almost a blink and you’ll miss it kinda moment lol

[coral juniper]

Sorry people are allowed to criticize things, it's not against the rules.

Like I said they did fine with the actors, the set designs, the action scenes (except the ironman bit lmao), special effects, all of that

Some of the dialogue is even good and the cast have good chemistry but they definitely messed up on some continuity and the plot is kinda hard to take seriously because any media analysis with the rest of the series starts creating dissonances

[red forge]

Then don't watch the show. You're just making it sound like you're trying to ruin it for the rest of us.

Let us make up our own minds about it.

[coral juniper]

If that's how you feel that's entirely on you, I never told anyone not to watch it or not to enjoy it, people can still criticize it's many issues

Ok but don't try to shut down people who want to talk about it then

[tidal tendon]

Let's not bicker please. If you find you are unable to get along, feel free to use the block button.

[coral juniper]

Honestly I wouldn't mind if we got more Alaska content in Fallout, especially since the whole Operation Anchorage is not faithfully accurate bit from the dlc

If the show focused more on Anchorage during the flashbacks that'd rule, it's an interesting part of the lore

[spark nova]

The Anchorage flashback I'm very excited for, given it's T-45 in the footage we've seen this sequence could even predate the deployment of the T-51

[coral juniper]

Wasn't T-51 deployed in Anchorage

Coulda sworn that was the first war to see it but might be misremembering

[spark nova]

Both were, T-45 was rushed out there first and T-51 was deployed to replace it

[coral juniper]

Ah fair fair

[errant sandal]

guys i got a question:
did the show retcon or change vaultboy to cooper (or maybe sort of like an alternate universe like MCU is to marvel comics), or was cooper just one of many ways the vaults were advertised?

[indigo trellis]

Cooper probably fell out of favour with VT after the divorce with Barb, so he had to get replaced in the advertising

[red forge]

Prior to the TV show, I don't think there was ever any established lore on the inspiration of its likeness.

[red forge]

That could be plausible.

[errant sandal]

saw some people being happy with the reference or connection once they saw cooper give that thumbs up in s1

but idk if it’s the kind of thing you need inspiration for 😆

it’s a simple thumbs up and a wink for approval or assurance

[severe dock]

Just bought prime to watch the series. First episode of season 2 is 1 hour or what??

[spark nova]

Yeah it's a longer one

[red forge]

I understood the question more to do with the difference in colour of the hair between vault boy and Cooper.

[errant sandal]

yeah, i was satisfied with inky’s answer

but before that, I found it puzzling how there’s even a signboard of him as an ad during the nuclear bomb evacuation drill in ep1

it made me think how ‘is the show really going for this? this signboard might survive the nukes, so how come we dont see that in the game?’

where do they live again? los angeles too? not near new vegas, right? or where was bakersfield (is it a fictional place)?

[spark nova]

Have any of y'all heard of Clawdius the Deathclaw?

[errant sandal]

am not sure (i’m quite forgetful)
sounds like something from fallout 4 tho

[spark nova]

Apparently it's the name of ||the Anchorage deathclaw|| as confirmed by someone working the show, but I'm looking for said source

[red forge]

How did that person provide their confirmation?

[spark nova]

See Im trying to track down the source so I have confirmation lol

[red forge]

Oh you did allude to that... sorry

[errant sandal]

why d’you speak kinda formal?

[orchid lake]

Likewise

[errant sandal]

wait, i thought t-45 was never used en masse?

[spark nova]

I'm curious as to why it doesn't have winterized paint or any military symbols

[orchid lake]

It was until 2076

[red forge]

Because I get sick and tired of needless arguments due to semantics of cultural language barriers where 1 person's sincerity is another's sass.

[orchid lake]

Then the T-51 came in and absolutely mopped the floor with the Chinese

[spark nova]

The T-45 was the first deployed to the battlefield, but the T-51 ate its lunch.

[orchid lake]

Yep

[errant sandal]

well, you do you i suppose
ig peace of mind is better sometimes, but i think you kinda sacrifice expression there

[red forge]

It's also a generation gap. I'm at the older end of Gen Y.

[errant sandal]

i forgot that t-45 was replaced because of its faultiness
i should’ve thought about that a lil bit more lol
kinda implies there that it was used a lot

[spark nova]

As per the show, the T-45 had a lot of design flaws that killed a lot of people, but it sure looked good!

[errant sandal]

idk why, but it reminds me of the factoid i learned from better call saul, iirc, of how m16s jammed a lot in that rainy and muddy environment during the vietnam war hah

[spark nova]

They basically rushed out a prototype to Alaska while they worked on the final production model, the T-51.

[errant sandal]

ahh interesting

[indigo trellis]

The flaws in the T-45 meant many soldiers ended up as spam in a can

[orchid lake]

You mean in an open can

[spark nova]

And then there's the common speculation that the T-60 was West-Tek refurbishing the T-45s into a functional product after the successful deployment of the T-51 at Anchorage, basically selling you a defective product and then making you pay for the fix.

[orchid lake]

Hey wait a minute....

Where have I seen that before?

[spark nova]

Very curious as to what the T-45f actually functions like in the lore, did it fix any of the actual problems with the armor or was it West-Tek selling the military a quick fix while they awaited the T-51?

[spark nova]

Here we go https://www.facebook.com/carygunnar/posts/some-highlights-from-season-2-of-fallout-cant-wait-to-see-clawdius-on-the-big-sc/10106832877206347/

[errant sandal]

omg! there’s gonna be a deathclaw and radscorpion this season 😃

just finished watching ep1

i wonder if the show will eventually feature super mutants too

tbh, i cant believe am excited about ‘em when they’re the reason why i came in late to the franchise 😆
i find the deathclaw and supermutants rather fantastical

[indigo trellis]

so far we've seen the hand of a supermutant

[errant sandal]

in s1? i don’t remember

[indigo trellis]

When Wilzig left the Enclave base with Dogmeat he passed a gurney with a giant green hand sticking out from the sheet covering, and there is a bounty poster( hand drawn 😸 ) of a supermutant where the Ghoul meets the president of the "Guvmint"

[errant sandal]

hmm
guess am gonna have a rewatch

[spark nova]

Frank Horrigan Jr

[lofty prairie]

Holy moly theres a second

[orchid lake]

This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them!

[lofty prairie]

Unironically think they would pull crap like this. Seeing how the enclave has comeback every time they’ve been defeated

[reef hinge]

The Enclave was known to be in Chicago

[red forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5iQqbK4LnY

||There's a lifesize Protectron||

[woven scaffold]

||Look at Theroux’s episodes, it’s not a life size protectron. It’s a life size Fisto.||

[red forge]

Either or.

Fact is it's tangible.

And lifesize.

[crisp grail]

assume the position

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254543981812121642/1451402281416396963/flat750x075f-pad750x1000f8f8f8.png?ex=69460b35&is=6944b9b5&hm=0b7aec9b91d7b6f6b1423d8d8b2ed3bd3c30e2bb0d099139306c16dff782d59b&

[lofty prairie]

Who do you think won in fallout 4, I mean the commonwealth bos seems to be in good shape

But maybe the minutemen won who knows

[red forge]

Some think BoS won, because Prydwen was seen in season 1, and a "new" ship with the name Caswennan has been cited in the 2nd trailer.

All we can do for now is speculate.

[errant sandal]

doesnt it depend on the player?

[red forge]

The show is chronologically after the events of FO4, which to date is the latest game in the series.

[errant sandal]

i know that, but why'd you say that?

are you saying whatever happens or is shown in the show will make specific endings in fo4 canon?
damn the player choice?

[red forge]

The game gives player choice, like "choose your own adventure".
The TV show is giving absolutes, which is why there was a lot noise about it looking like House won NV.

[errant sandal]

oof

[red forge]

This is one of the reasons why I've been arguing that TV show adaptations of other media are not going to be 1:1 faithful translation.

[errant sandal]

like, in general?

well ig that's usually the case, even successful or more faithful adaptations

[red forge]

In general, yes, especially when the game is not linear.

[errant sandal]

the marvel peeps were kinda smart about it and said that their films are a universe of their own

[red forge]

Someone in here a while ago gave a plausible suggestion that us playing as Nate or Nora in FO4, could be merely background mentioned as the MM General in the show.

[errant sandal]

wonder how they'll be brought up then
cuz i think lucy and the ghoul are now on the west coast, but fo4 takes place on the east coast

[red forge]

Yep, this is why we can only speak in speculative terms.

[lofty prairie]

Wth do you mean doesnt it depend on the player the player won’t decide what direction the show goes like they can’t decide what’s cannon and what’s not. I don’t understand what you mean.

[plush quest]

There really isn’t a good reason for Lucy or the Ghoul to head to the Commonwealth atm. Maybe that changes by the end of the season

[red forge]

Not to forget a 3rd season has been greenlit.

[lofty prairie]

Who said they are going to the commonwealth couldn’t the commonwealth come to them especially if it’s the BOS

[plush quest]

I could see the Commonwealth being featured in S3 because Bethesda wants to rerelease Fallout 4 again.

[lofty prairie]

Hilarious

I could see that happening lol

[errant sandal]

bro did you even read the rest of the convo we had?

[errant sandal]

but if you really want your question to be answered: why are you even asking that question when season 2 has just begun?

[red forge]

We've not been given indication that player choice will determine the future based on what will be depicted in the show.

That might have been a tested and failed formula when Defiance was done.

[lofty prairie]

To hear others theories dummie

[lofty prairie]

Yeah but why would you ask wouldn’t player choice matter, in a tv show player choices gets thrown out the window

[errant sandal]

i'm not saying player choice will determine what will happen in the show, but that the showrunners will respect player choices by being as vague about it as possible and not making anything canon

[errant sandal]

well, i like to think the showrunners will stay respectful
but i wouldnt be too surprised if they 'chose' an ending to be canon

[lofty prairie]

It’s Bethesda we are talking about for the sake of continuity and story telling a definitive ending has to be set in order to tell a future story. Even if it’s not directly said but alluded to. Yes your right they can not choose a cannon ending, but then imo that’s and story telling, it’s a television show not an RPG if it’s the sequel to fallout 4 and new Vegas it needs an ending to launch off of

[red forge]

A "decision" is perhaps going to be inevitable.
What will also be inevitable is that people will be upset if 1 of another is canon but not the one THEY as the player chosen, or they will be upset if NONE are canon.

damned if do, damned if don't

[errant sandal]

am rather new to the franchise..
that's saddening to read that even a fan knows bethesda's bad 😆

the US also seems big enough that each storyline can be independent from one another tho

[lofty prairie]

And for the sake of oh they will respect players choices oh what if my player choice was the institute oh well canonically they aren’t there anymore because every faction wipes them out and if you side with the institute the BoS would be gone but they are literally said by word in the trailer that the bloke is a representative form the commonwealth

[lofty prairie]

Well then dont bloody come here acting like im stupid when you literally asked why would they have a cannon ending for an RPG game

[errant sandal]

mate, you're the one that started with 'what the hell do you mean' and then calling me a dummy

[errant sandal]

like seriously, it's on you to take offense on a curious question

[lofty prairie]

Look I don’t want to start a fight ok im sorry if I offended you but like dont ask silly questions as a new person to this franchise trust me I learnt the hard from new Vegas steam discussions

[lofty prairie]

Didnt take offense I assumed you were along time player asking this but you don’t know so it alright

That’s why I was like are we serious

[lofty prairie]

Have you played all the main game or did you come from the show?

[errant sandal]

i've played some of fo4 but didnt finish it 😆

and here i am playing 76 rn

[lofty prairie]

How you finding the 76 fans? I had a bloke fly to me in XO1 power armour and give me a mini gun then flew off

Never got his name……

[errant sandal]

well, i got the same treatment from randoms in-game
i got a full set of civil engineer armor that she crafted right in front of me
(oops, wrong reply)

[lofty prairie]

Like I literally left the vault and he gives it to me I couldn’t use it tho cuz when I played on PS4 pre- automatic level 20 selection so I had to grind from level 1 to 20 so yeah

[errant sandal]

the only fans i have confusion or an issue with are here on discord lmao

but whatever, vocal minority
maybe in general people are nice too

[lofty prairie]

What do you think of the show? Season 1 was kinda cheeks but Walton Higgins carried but season 2 already looks really promising

[lofty prairie]

Yeah mb I didn’t give you the best welcome, I would’ve flamed ur ass had u been a veteran player

I apologise

[errant sandal]

the show's alr
but it's endearing to see practical effects or props.. i always respect that

i sometimes consider that shows like that also have to cater to new people too tho

[lofty prairie]

Yeah the T60 was all real btw, and it was walked onto a stage of I forgot the name but it had a live audience and a stunt double was in the power armour is like 8-9 feet tall and is entirely plastic (I think because it would be to heavy otherwise) I seriously want to rob there warehouse and steal that, someone told me that props worth like 80,000 i dont have that much however

[errant sandal]

ig the sound it makes on the show are just sound fx added on from editing too

[lofty prairie]

Yeah probs

[errant sandal]

otherwise it'll be more than 80k hah

[lofty prairie]

Yeah bro I so want that full suit, fallout 1st subs paid for that btw

[errant sandal]

huh.. bethesda really had a hand on that show huh

[lofty prairie]

Ehh that was more of a joke but the fact that they rake in lots money from 76 and atom points I wouldn’t be surprised, I’ve always said im funding Todd’s yacht

[errant sandal]

i bet the overall production cost of that show costs more than Arcane..

[lofty prairie]

Yeah probably, the vertibird scene in season 1 I think was filmed in Florida which is not near California

[errant sandal]

oh yeah, just had a thought just now
i remember i had a question or two about fev and supermutants in the (other) f76 server and concluded that they're not sustainable--that they would die out eventually
d'you think that's the reason why supermutants weren't shown in s1, or is it more of a creative choice since they don't wanna overwhelm the audience or newcomers with all sorts of creatures?

[lofty prairie]

Im still very confused why the Us government would want to make commies out of American born citizens in fallout, Ik vault tec controlled the government but what purpose did that serve, maybe to sell more vaults to make it look like communism was a threat idk

[errant sandal]

i think House is more interested in how well the mind-control device works rather than the commie thing

but idk, the experiments inside the vaults would've happened after the nukes, right?

[lofty prairie]

Well FEV has different strains, the show takes place in California which is where fallout 1 took place. The main enemy of that game was the master and his supermutants, anyways he got defeated and a lot of supermutants died however many lived and migrated east towards Mojave. The show takes place many years after fallout 1 and they aren’t there because unlike 4 and 76 no one’s making mutants on the West anymore and 2 because they live in a desert and are probably harder to spot.

[lofty prairie]

Yes all of them did

[lofty prairie]

It yes as far as im aware the Supermutants are dying out on the west however they can live for a while

[errant sandal]

i think the only ones that'll live a long life are those that aren't warmongers or freaks of violence

i heard from a yt channel that it's possible for them to get smart or knowledgeable if they've lived long enough

[lofty prairie]

Yes like Marcus, but unfortunately many still cannot be docile towards humans even tho we have a companion supermutant in fallout 4 he only tolerate me us and repeatedly tells us he’ll kill us one day long with all other humans

[lofty prairie]

Yes very few survive the physiological breakdown that happens when transforming so rapidly, others like Dog/God and the one from fallout 3 either get side effects or have to teach themselves how to be human again

[errant sandal]

well, ig to try to answer your question or do some guesswork, maybe that vault making americans into commies are just part of the experiment of sort of anything goes
in s1 they talked about how they try to see whichever experiment is a success and outlasts the others will win the competition for a new sort of civilization or society in america

but the one shown in the latest episode though looks like a place of conversion and seeing how effective the mind-control device works, instead of seeing how communism works in a vault lol
idk

[lofty prairie]

Ahh yes most likely, also btw some vaults never finished completion and I read somewhere that out of the 112 confirmed active vaults only 17 were liveable/ for humans to stay for extended periods of time

[plush quest]

The brainwashing and indoctrination is the same exact experiment that was being held in Camp Liberty in Virginia. Except the ones there were being conducted by the DIA

the purpose of the Camp Liberty was to test how effective communist brainwashing and indoctrination techniques are so they have a better idea of what kind of enemy they’re against

How willing they are to die for the cause and the level of extremism they display. Things like that

[lofty prairie]

There also a Chinese concentration camp on Big MT in fallout NV if I remember correctly

[plush quest]

I believe that was for ethnically Chinese Americans meant to mimic Japanese concentration camps during WWII

[lofty prairie]

Oh so they weren’t captured soldiers

[plush quest]

It might be. I haven’t played NV in a while

[errant sandal]

hmm.. knowing House, his wealth and knowledge (or ability to gather intel), maybe he did a little tweaking for how it was done in the vault and also the goals too
otherwise, maybe it's a sort of easter egg for the players who are watching. Yknow, for people like you, long time fans, to pick up on

[plush quest]

It does bring up the question of how widespread was this communist brainwashing experiment

Since there are 2 confirmed instances of it at opposite sides of the country

[lofty prairie]

Also btw if you think supermutants are weird you should go into the other weird stuff in fallout like the zetans and mysterious stranger. Theories about him range from one of gods fallen angels to being a cosmic ghost cloud entity to being Harold friend from fallout 1.

[errant sandal]

im finding that hard to believe cuz he cant shoot for sh-- in 76 😆

[lofty prairie]

Yes well thats deliberate as in fallout 3 nv and 4 he can one shot enemies lol

[plush quest]

My favorite theory is that he’s a time traveller making sure the protagonist succeeds to prevent some future disaster

Protagonists*

[lofty prairie]

Yeah I like the fallen angels theory as he has a son and daughter (Lady Luck) but I also like the theory hes the main character from the future

[errant sandal]

yknow what tho, i'll watch conspiracy vids about him tho
cuz i havent been curious until now
i mean, the simplest reason would be there's a ghoul stalking the player and helping sometimes

wait, is he a ghoul? never even bothered to look at this face

[plush quest]

The mysterious stranger? No

[lofty prairie]

Yeah lol, unfortunately tho things are never that simple in the fallout universe

[lofty prairie]

No he has a proper face

[plush quest]

He almost seems pre-war

[lofty prairie]

But every game his face is different which is why people think he can shapeshift because he’s the same guy every game technically

[errant sandal]

hmmm
maybe not too farfetched, considering there's this one very old character in fallout 4 that has lived since the 18th or 19th century cuz he found a rather magical artifact

the one with the goofy looking helmet lol

[lofty prairie]

Vojta the mysterious stranger also has a son and maybe a daughter so yeah he can def you know so bed gymnastics

[plush quest]

Oh the eldritch horror stuff goes deep. Bethesda’s been injecting Lovecraftian elements to the series pretty hard recently

[errant sandal]

he kinda has the same outfit as the one who visited the fallout 4 protag tho
but then you meet that salesman later on in that game, so theory goes poof

[lofty prairie]

What’s weird is his son says whenever he would whether the room him and his mother would feel off putting like something wasn’t right, apparently he wouldn’t talk to them much and he left without reason one day. His mother said he was a very mysterious man even the day she met him. She felt as if she knew her son more than him.

[plush quest]

Right now in 76, a mysterious fish man is asking vault dwellers to bring him fish to sacrifice to the body of an eldritch being called the Interloper in a secret room at the bottom of a deep mine

[lofty prairie]

The fallout 4 vault representative is in good neighbour as a ghoul and you can recruit him to your settlement

[errant sandal]

wait.. can you meet his son in fo4?? how d'you know?

[errant sandal]

yup, yeah..

[lofty prairie]

Nope but in fallout new Vegas you can and because he hands you the mysterious magnum and it plays the tune that the stranger plays when entering near you

[plush quest]

This parallels with the canon Fallout tabletop game expansion Winter of Atom where a being called The Dreamer gave a Children of Atom priest eldritch powers

[lofty prairie]

Oh mb I wrote this before you added on

[plush quest]

Winter of Atom also establishes that there was a cult within the pre-war military that secretly wanted to use the Great War as a giant ritual sacrifice to The Dreamer

[lofty prairie]

So yeah we know very little about the mysterious stranger but we keep a he has a son and potential a daughter and I say potentially because in fallout new Vegas theres a perk exactly like mysterious stranger but this time it’s a woman and her name is Lady Luck. I don’t think she kills tho.

Also Vojta Todd Howard is a president in the games lore you can find his revolutionary era painting with him in it at the dugout in in fallout 4

The lore is wild my guy

[errant sandal]

wait.. i once saw a sort of magic the gathering style of card portraying the Motherlode of fallout 76
is it that tabletop game perchance?

[errant sandal]

yknow tho, i dont really mind some eldritch stuff in fallout cuz i've seen an episode in love, death, and robots that marries sci-fi with it haha

[plush quest]

No that’s the official Magic the Gathering Fallout themed deck. The Motherlode is a mining robot in Appalachia with a unnecessarily sexy voice because its creator was a gooner

[lofty prairie]

Im sorry what the actual hell are you guys taking about!!! A sexy robot not this again lol this has happened before.

[errant sandal]

i prefer exploring at my own pace tho
idk if i wanna watch iceberg lore vids cuz i might get spoiled
but am lovin' it hah

[reef hinge]

Actual magic doesn't belong imo

[plush quest]

It’s not a sexy robot. It’s a sexy sounding robot. It’s body is just a huge mining drill the size of a small NYC apartment

[reef hinge]

Im pretty sure the immortal in the commonwealth is alien tech

[plush quest]

Lorenzo Cabot?

[reef hinge]

if i remember right

[errant sandal]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/62/the-motherlode-excavator

[plush quest]

His son believed it was aliens but it’s actually closer to the Dunwich Borers mystery

[lofty prairie]

Fair enough to you dont go down the hours worth of rabbit hole son YouTube. You get topics like mysterious stranger to the puppet man who killed an entire raiding group with a vault boy puppet because the puppet told him to lol.

[errant sandal]

the motherlode is an autonomous, maybe even sentient, digger in 76

[lofty prairie]

We need to change unit of measurement to NYC apartments

[errant sandal]

i plan (and really hope i dont die somehow to accomplish this) to play every game someday
the way i play is i literally explore everything, that's what i meant by taking my time btw

every location, point of interest
i look at every loot

[lofty prairie]

Fair, I have played long enough i skip the dialogue sometimes like the opening convos of fallout 4 it’s just the same. But thats respectable theres a lot of terminals waiting their with your name on it lol

[plush quest]

It probably costs as much as one too

[lofty prairie]

Hah lol

[errant sandal]

welp, i've also killed zetans in fo4 too i think

aliens literally exist

and they look like how it was depicted in the 60s or somethin irl

[lofty prairie]

Vojta i would recommend going from fallout 4 to 76 then fallout 3 then do NV and Fallout 1 and 2 Bec NV is similar to later entries and even tho I love 4 is the superior story line and end with fallout 1 and 2 as they are extremely (Firt time doing it) difficult

[lofty prairie]

Crazy isnt it lol

[errant sandal]

i heard NV has the best storytelling out of all of them

[reef hinge]

An opinion

[plush quest]

Zetans tried to invade Appalachia multiple times 26 years after the Great War but it turns out the 76ers are psychos and fought them back everytime. Some 76ers even made flesh masks out of their skin to wear over Power Armor

[lofty prairie]

Oh yes by far, it’s a 3d version of fallout 1 and 2 and is by technicality is fallout 3 out of the original trilogy because the OG devs of the first 2 came back to help in Nav infact the story was borrowed from their canceled 3rd game

[reef hinge]

Opinion

[errant sandal]

i like how, since 76 is the earliest of them all in the timeline, that can be made canon

[lofty prairie]

Ok what would you say has the best story then Steel atlas let’s hear your opinion

[reef hinge]

1

[plush quest]

It is canon

[lofty prairie]

I agree 1s story is good but nv has the edge over it by not much

[reef hinge]

One has the best narrative, its just a product of its time so the gameplay is daunting

[lofty prairie]

Yes and for me the gameplay is what gives it the lower hand over Nav

[reef hinge]

If anything 3 is closer to 1 thematically

[lofty prairie]

NV is the sweet spot between tolerable and downright unplayable

[reef hinge]

1 is playable, its just from a different era , doesnt hold the Players hand

[lofty prairie]

Yes and it took me 5 months on and off to complete it but I’ve finished every game once lol

[plush quest]

Some people, including Todd, have been against a 1 and 2 remake but there’s a lot of good value to come out of that. As long as they keep the narrative and gameplay almost entirely the same and just updated to modern controls

[errant sandal]

back then, you don't have an internet to help you
playing games consists of trial and error, and actually using your brain to solve things

[plush quest]

Maybe updated graphics too. But idk since 1 and 2 had a very unique design aesthetic that some fans love

[reef hinge]

They are both buggy messes, and are becoming harder to run on modern computers

2 is worse in some ways then 1 with bugs

[red forge]

Older games progressively become harder to run on modern computers all the time. Have to run DOS box for DOS era games for instance.

[plush quest]

that’s not very accessible for 99% of people who want to play those games. A good portion don’t even know what that is

[red forge]

There's a fan mod in production that's remaking FO1 with FO4's engine.

[plush quest]

I saw that. Love how faithful he’s trying to keep it

[red forge]

That's just the nature of things. People find ways to get old/retro games working. Usually abandonware community comes into it.

[reef hinge]

Honestly the pixel look holds up today

But Id like to see a remaster so it can run on modern machines and bug fixes

[plush quest]

Yeah I get your point. But I still see value in modernizing the classics so a wider audience has the chance to experience it instead of mostly smaller niche tech communities

[red forge]

I'm only speaking on terms of the original way the games were released, not HD remakes or whatever.

[reef hinge]

We can add giant dewbacks

[red forge]

Also don't forget BGS did not make FO1, or 2, or NV.

[plush quest]

Similar to how a lot of people still keep and collect old arcade machines event though all of them have been ported to digital gaming at this point

[cunning rock]

Meanwhile, I’m rewatching season 1 of the tv series.

[errant sandal]

i looked up a bit on who's the lead writer in fallout 1 and learned that Mark O'Green's still alive

imagine seeing the game you had a hand in creating have a show now

it's like having children grow up and have a life of their own now or somethin

am also a bit sad tho

[lofty prairie]

They originally were going to make a movie about fallout OG. I believe they had a script and everything and maybe you can still read it, it was vastly different to the show however

[errant sandal]

d'you have a link? or what would be the title for it?

[reef hinge]

Fallout 1 was pretty successful

[spark nova]

I read that script as a kid

[reef hinge]

every time I see a AAA game

[errant sandal]

yeah.. but i feel bad that they're not part of future iterations of the game they made

[lofty prairie]

Maybe just type fallout movie script or it shouldn’t be too hard to find. I’ve never read it so idk the link.

The BoS Ik were originally supposed to die out long ago and they were portrayed a lot like the children of atom are how they have changed

[errant sandal]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_film_treatment

[reef hinge]

There are a lot different writers

I think 1 of the writers really hated the BoS

[lofty prairie]

Yeah maybe one day a fan may run the OG script into a movie but idk. I do know it’s supposed to be more mature and nothing like the show at all

[spark nova]

BoS, Enclave, and the CoA feel like a trifecta

[errant sandal]

how i wish for that
like andor is to star wars

[lofty prairie]

Yes they were supposed to be cultists driven to destroy humanity’s last hope by hoarding technology

[reef hinge]

But the BoS were definitely good guys originally and Vault Tec wasnt evil just incompetent

[lofty prairie]

Andor season 2 was the best Starwars ive in film recently

[reef hinge]

They literally mutineed against Westek for creating FEV

[lofty prairie]

Yes vault tec was incompetent

[errant sandal]

best scene tho, imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3RCme2zZRY
but i digress (off-topic)

[lofty prairie]

No Thats not what I mean I mean they would hide in their bunker while others suffered

[reef hinge]

But they weren't like that originally

they traded with the other settlements

[cunning rock]

Books, lots of potential for books just following the original games

[reef hinge]

One of the major quests in 1 is finding out what's happening to trading caravans heading to the BoS outpost

[lofty prairie]

Think I missed that one i dont remember that. I did do side quests unlike my first play thru but I missed a few as it was extensive

And I didn’t want to play the game for to long

[reef hinge]

Its easy to miss as is a lot, but basically the super mutants are attacking caravans

[lofty prairie]

Also the elder who had a Jedi hunch that an army was growing north, bro felt like doakes he knew but couldn’t prove it

The others thought he was mad lol

[reef hinge]

You end up fighting a deathclaw that has killed a super mutant and you get recording off it that you can show to Vree

I believe that's how you get the research that shows the super mutants are sterile

Once you know how to get the quest its easy besides the deathclaw, but again its not obvious

[lofty prairie]

Oh yeah I got that but I didn’t to anything related to supermutants attacking merchants i just stumbled upon the mutant

[raven mural]

Hi folks, please do not circumvent the automod. It's in place for a reason

[tardy shoal]

could see that being true for at least 76 since it's 100+ years before the series. but fo4 is less than 2 decades before it which seems less likely

is there any actual justification for not using the in-game jet packs?

[spark nova]

well the jetpacks in-game feel more like jump packs than something designed to manuever you Iron Man style

[woven scaffold]

They’re also huge and clunky, would make it really hard for the practical actors to stay balanced when acting those scenes.

They’re already easy to push over in the suits.

[tawdry kernel]

Hello

When does the rest of the episodes comes out?

[minor lark]

One episode a week, every Tuesday.

[tawdry kernel]

Thas alot of waiting 😭

Thank you

[red forge]

It's only a week inbetween...

[reef hinge]

Releasing clusters of episodes was the equivalent of the great war for television

[minor lark]

If you grew up with cable, this is just the norm.

[crisp grail]

nevermind the horrid mid-season break

[reef hinge]

Yeah heaven forbid you have time to think about product

[crisp grail]

which i guess you need when you have 27 episodes of LOST in a single season

[woven scaffold]

I think the per week episode gives us nice time to speculate and discuss as a community. Rather than just straight discussing the ending.

[reef hinge]

Binging somehow lost the negative connotation

[crisp grail]

for me, it helps with spoilers as even when its dropped at once, i like to watch and digest but then i need to avoid all social media cause everyone is just discussing the endings

[red forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUmIfSf2KJs
These are great. It's like "Between 2 Ferns". It's chaotic.

Whoever came up with this idea is a genius.

[orchid lake]

I'm totally gonna watch it

[fierce finch]

While i tend to prefer binging nowadays, this is one show im willing to go with the flow on, its just so good 😄 And at an hour an episode approx, you’re looking at more like the equivalent of a 13 episodes season (assuming this is 10 eps). The gap between seasons is a bit of a meh, but then the way this shows presenting is closer to a movie style, so im willing to overlook this as well.