starfield-mods

[grand zodiac]

the mod was created in august 2024, it's not like it's brand new.

[kindred elm]

I do this all the time if I can't find them on nexus or discord

I asked the mod authors of
The veil - Emily archer
Lyria
Robin Locke
Derek
To make them not take up. Companion slot if their paid for companions

So far the mod author of lyria said they might look into doing this after they finish up with an update for lyria

[grand zodiac]

To me, it just sounds like a lottery.
There should be a feedback/comment section on the creation page.
Now, there is just zero way to contact the mod author, so maybe he has no clue about this issue and will never have.

[kindred elm]

Yeah I agree that there should be some way to give a thumbs up or down or comment so far all u can do is give a thumbs up only in your load order section lol but there is a reason there isn't one lol

[grand zodiac]

I bought Lyria too, works well, my ship has 8/8+ Sarah Morgan and she is still part of it.
It's advertised in the mod description that she does not take any crew slot, and it does not take any crew slot.
It's fine.

[kindred elm]

Like Emily archer quest gets bugged at the core ship but I had no problems at all but I'm not everyone else who had problems I was just lucky

[grand zodiac]

OBM mod advertises something that is not true, it's a paid mod.
It's not fine.
To me it's as simple as that.
Bethesda does not even care about it, that's why i said i might just take free mods from Nexus and use the achievement enabler.

[kindred elm]

Lyria dismisses herself if I try to have her follow me while also having Derek Emily and robin

[grand zodiac]

I have DEREK too, but apparently, cannot be assigned to the ship.

[kindred elm]

Just make Derek follow u at all times plus he gives u toast u will never be hungry on 70+ extreme difficulty

[grand zodiac]

I prefer to keep my original follower, not fans of big robots except when they stay outside my ship like Vasco

Do you think the mod author will update it to make it possible to assign it to the ship?

i might tag him and ask i guess

but now i'm interested in the veil, it gives you a follower that you can assign to your ship even if your crew is full, like Lyria?

[kindred elm]

Vasco and roach from trackers alliance always stays outside the ship as if there guardians lol

To keep roach with u just don't look for the bounty target he wants u to look for just leave

[grand zodiac]

Also, for the starchat crew member, my issue was not being able to take it as a follower or not, it was not being able to assign it to my ship.
It's a random ship specialist, those ones cannot be recruited as follower anyway, they're just ship crew.

so, the companion you talked about, Emily Archer, can you assign it to your crew even if you have 8/8?

to your ship*

[kindred elm]

Emily becomes a follower at the end of her quest line but technically if you leave the compound u first meet her in... After she open the 1st door u can keep her indefinitely

Meaning she can't take up a companion sot

Same thing with Mathis Castillo just don't go back to the key

[grand zodiac]

Yeah but if you finish the quest and get her as a regular companion, does she take a slot in your ship crew?

not sure if you tried

[kindred elm]

Same thing with Emma Wilcox just don't take here to that planet she wants to go to to keep her indefinitely

I beat it but I didn't check to see how if she does but just to make sure she doesn't take up a companion slot if she did do not follow thru what her quet

Instead take her on some travel with u not just Emily but every quest followers u can find

Keep them with u if ur lvl 40 keep them with u till ur lvl 300 then as a Farewell goodbye type of thing finally complete their quest

[grand zodiac]

well, if you ever test it, let me know, i'd probably buy the mod if it adds an extra follower that i can assign to a full ship crew.
And i usually don't let quests unfinished just to keep npc's

[kindred elm]

I almost always do this in every Bethesda game i ever played try to find all the quest followers I can

Fallout 4
Travis miles
Billy the ghoul
Sentinel Ai
And ada are with me at all times in my vanilla fallout 4

Skyrim
Mercer Frey
Farkas
Barbas the dog
Brother verulus
Anska
Thonnir
All follow me in my vanilla skyrim

Starfield
Emma Wilcox
Levi kilman
Mathis Castillo
Roach trackers alliance
Emily archer
Derek

All follow me in my vanilla starfield

I just need the mod authors to not makepid companions take up slots so I can have a small platoon with me

I for one have never been a fan of the lone wanderer cliche who tackles bases filled up to 20/30 high end weaponry using enemies by myself

[grand zodiac]

personally i prioritize them not taking ship crew slot so i can have more people in my ship, i'm good with one follower xD

It's ok to tag a creator in this channel to ask a question about it?

[kindred elm]

Who want to be the general of no army fallout 4

Who wants to be the dragonborn with no cult of his own Skyrim

Who wants to be the captain of a ship with no crew starfield lol 😆

But my point is yes it's sometimes hard to get ahold of these modders but if u can ask them for what u want do not be detured

[grand zodiac]

apparently, Robin Lock is also glitched, half of the character is invisible

well, might be able to fix this with a restart or something tho

fixed by giving her another space suit/armor

Hello @fossil tusk , just tagging you in case you were not aware of the issue:
I could fix it myself by giving it another suit/armor.
I still recommand the mod because despite taking a crew slot, it's the only companion except Sam Coe that has Piloting lv 4

and unfortunately Sam Coe comes with Corra 🤣

[fossil tusk]

Oh thanks for tagging me. I've seen this issue before. Do you have any other creations installed?

[grand zodiac]

i take it back apparently i could not find properly for OBM he is on the discord

[jolly torrent]

I wish I could have Sam Coe take the wheel of my ship and be a pilot. Point out the destination, and he takes us there as the navigator.

[grand zodiac]

yeah, a lot of Bethesda creations and verified creator mods

I don't take anything that is not achievement friendly or not made by verified creators tho

[fossil tusk]

Oh actually I think this might be another vc - but I'll have to confirm.

Either or, I'll try and work in a fix to a patch.

[grand zodiac]

just tagged in case more people need help with it, personally i found an easy tweak, by giving her another armor/suit, it's good, it only appears invisible to me if she has her default suit.

thank you for your quick answer

[jolly torrent]

Thank you @grand zodiac

I would kill if someone could mod in the Pulse Rifle/Flamethrower from Aliens

[grand zodiac]

No one did that yet?
Maybe there is one but not achievement friendly

[jolly torrent]

Heavens no. Nobody did that. But there’s a bunch of Star Wars stuff.

[grand zodiac]

I've seen an armor mod, the best one i could see by far (or at least to me), but unfortunately, not achievement friendly.

i'll try to find it back, the design, textures, etc.. that's crazy

[jolly torrent]

@grand zodiac if you find it on Creations, please DM me the link. Unfortunately, I’m a console pleb.

[grand zodiac]

pathfinder armor on creation club

"pathfinder mea redux"

it's some mass effect style armors

if you don't care about achievements you can probably get it even on consoles

[grand zodiac]

Hello @nimble sorrel , i have a question about D.E.R.EK, i could not find how to assign this companion to my ship, is it possible and maybe i missed something or is it intended for DEREK to remain at constellation when not following the main character?
Thank you!

[jolly torrent]

The Pulse Rifle from Aliens. Lol. Not the Mass Effect armor. Lol

[grand zodiac]

oh sorry, sure if i ever see one i'll let you know.

[jolly torrent]

Although I’m grateful that we have some Mass Effect mods.

On console. I think there should be much more. At least twice as many as Star Wars mods, but that’s just me. Lol

I’m weird like that.

[sharp lynx]

I'll upload mine soon

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/7462

[grand zodiac]

@dusky escarp Hello, I had a little issue at the end of StarChat.
The specialist is not free and cannot be assigned to ship if my crew is already full.
Since the mod page states the companion would be free and supernumerary i believe it might be a bug, did you already plan to fix it in a later update?
Thank you!

[regal wasp]

oh you're doing an update?

[sharp lynx]

Well I'd like it to be for console too

and not on nexus

It'll be free too

[regal wasp]

nice, I do love the work you do, its always solid

[sharp lynx]

I mean if I'm going to charge I at least try and make my work as close to studio quality as I can get it.

and stuff as much as I can into a mod as possible

but I'd like for my free stuff to be similar

I'll probably add some new skins and other things to the M41A I love that weapon XD

[jolly torrent]

I just died in @sharp lynx’s arms tonight. It must have been something she said.

[sharp lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pet-cat-cheese-cat-challenge-i-cant-see-wtf-gif-13770714

[regal wasp]

its a good habit to get into, I'm currently focused on completely fleshing out the full set of my va'ruun habs before I even glance at my next project

[sharp lynx]

AH YEA I member now, I did like what you were doing with it

[regal wasp]

added a lot more over the last few weeks

and Im working on a big update atm that will probably be the last before I start making use of the varuun dlc items

[jolly torrent]

I’d gladly pay for it, tbh. Any chance of getting actual Weyland-Yutani signs in the game?

Like this to replace the “Starfreight Logistics” boxes?

[grand zodiac]

@vagrant trench Hello, sorry to bother for this but I have a question about the creation called "The Veil".
I'm interested but i was just curious about the recruitable character, is it an "extra" one you can have even if your ship crew is full, or do you have to dismiss someone if you're at 8/8 already in order to assign Emily Archer to your ship?
Thank you!
Asking because i know Lyria is also one of your creation and she can be assigned even when the crew is full, so i thought it might be possible you did the same for the follower included in this one.

[safe sorrel]

To me I’d expect a mod companion to work like my other companions. I’d download them because I want their character, not for them to function differently unless it as specifically stipulated they behaved differently

[grand zodiac]

well, i bought this one because it was specifically stipulated they'd behave differently, also ingame it does too so i'm assuming it just requires a patch

It would be free i'd just do without but it's a paid mod, and 600 credits, so i'd like to make sure the author knows there is an issue so he can fix it.

[sharp lynx]

Oh I see what you mean

[jolly torrent]

@sharp lynx or any other modder, quick question: does the CK allow Eldrich horror type aliens or editing aliens at all in this game? I ask because Skyrim had giants, so I’m thinking large vertical enemies wouldn’t be an issue.

[sharp lynx]

well If I ever make that they're now getting called "Large Vertical enemies" thank you for that

[jolly torrent]

I didn’t know how else to describe them. I guess Kaiju monster would be another description.

[young laurel]

Working on one. https://youtu.be/ZW8W4FvjAd0?feature=shared

[sharp lynx]

nice I guess there will be two

[young laurel]

always nice to have options

[vagrant trench]

Like Lyria, Emily won’t take up a slot.

[kindred elm]

@vagrant trench when we say lyria Emily won't take up a companion slot does this also mean they follow me anywhere I go? Like they won't dismiss any current companions?

[vagrant trench]

She doesn't take a crew slot, like on a ship or outpost. She will be dismissed as a companion.

[nimble sorrel]

Hello, I didn’t set him up to be part of the main game following framework. He’s completely standalone. 😀

[kindred elm]

@vagrant trench she will be dismissed...

Just hear me out bro I paid to have them follow me at all times not to stay on the ship or dismiss the current followers I had... Like I like to have them walk across planets and raid bases with me all of them

Derek lyria robin Locke Emily archer

Along with quest followers u know followers whose quest u start but don't complete to keep them with u indefinitely like Emma Wilcox Levi kilman Mathias Castillo for a small platoon... I'm not the lone wanderer type of player

Will u just think about at least making it an option for players like me who want them with us at all times?

[sharp lynx]

Ahoy Skinny

[kindred elm]

Like fallout 4's sentinel Ai mod that guy follows u all over the wasteland no matter who u have as a companion

Like I'm just speaking as a consumer and a player but in my honest opinion if we have to pay for companions the most important rule should always be that they do not take up companion slots and they do not dismiss current followers.

Like is their some sorta companion limitation in the ck that prevents the player from having a certain amount of npc companions?

Like is their a reason why most paid companions dismiss vanilla companions? that prevents modders from making their companion mods not dismiss vanilla companions?

I bought them for hired guns but they sit on the ship all day because I can't bring them with me 😆

[kindred elm]

Oh and I forgot to mention

During the crimson fleet quest King meets rook if u take Emily archer to the key she attacks them even tho your character is sided with the crimson fleet.

I boarded the key with Emily she didn't do anything to the pirates in the tunnel... U know the tunnel that leads from your ship to the inner part of the key itself but the second we walked thru all hell broke loose Emily was murdering them even tho she's following me the fleet never turned hostile towards me they would shoot her down then I would buy what I needed and she would rise repeat get KO'd I buy some more u can't buy during combat but yeah she will start attacking the crimson fleet.

But like it might have been my fault because I started the veil made it to the part where Emily places something down to remove that black portal like door. Then just left and went to the key didn't continue on with her quest To keep her with me indefinitely

Dude before we went to the key I stopped at new Atlantis which is where it all started her and Mathias went to war so I left and went to the key Mathias is supposed to come to the key with u but this fight thru his programing off where he stands next to the ship technician in new Atlantis

I forced Mathias into the hanger of the ship then teleported to the cockpit to go to the key but he disappeared

I'm pretty sure if u just go to the key and speak to neava and Delgado that Mathias will magically appear because well he has to he has dialogue to say so I'm guessing the game will force him back into existence

Sorry bought this long winded text just was letting us know I don't think emily likes the crimson fleet and she doesn't care if I'm a member.

[kindred elm]

I guess what I'm really trying to say is I shouldn't need to download the recruit any npc mod or the gangs all here mod to do what the paid companion should already allow me to do by default which is make them follow me.... Indefinitely.

Come with me 😆

[kindred elm]

I finished Emily's quest a couple days ago I went back to the key just now - the last nova and yes Mathias has reappeared at the bar. LoL

But he no longer follows me

[kindred elm]

The most interesting thing about the Emily and Mathias fight in new Atlantis is that ppl say when they shoot a gun (I've done this to with Frankie's emporium the miney I like that gun) that the npc crowd doesn't run and they don't but no one ever said if two different npcs ( in my case Mathias v.s. Emily) start shooting at each other the crowd will actually run it was funny to see

[kindred elm]

Does anybody use fleet commander?

I just found the craziest bug with this fleet commander mod

I was standing in the key when I opened the menu to select the ship tab to see where Emily was

And low and behold I'm allowed to purchase the key for 0 credits

I'm able to use the key as storage

I'm able to make the key my home ship.

I wonder if this works on the eye.

[lavish flax]

@tight plinth hey there. Out of curiosity were you ever able to get your furnished starborn guardian mod working? If not, what's the possibility of one where you're able to place all the furniture included in it yourself under the furniture tab on creations/nexus?

[kindred elm]

Update: i was able to transport the key to new atlantis and u can hear the key being attacked the entire station randomly shakes this is crazy lol 😆

[lavish flax]

Lmao that's hilarious

So it basically acts as a ship? Are you able to modify it in any way at a ship tech?

[kindred elm]

I reloaded gonna see if it lets me do it at the ship technician

[lavish flax]

Because if so that bug may have unintentionally brought out some cut content in a roundabout way

Ah gotcha

[kindred elm]

I could not enter my actual ship once I made the key my home ship but I felt us go thru the grav drive warp

[lavish flax]

Damn

[tight plinth]

Furnished Starborn works on PC, and there seem to be a lot of people using it on XBox. Not sure if that means it works or not. Re buildable furniture, there's the mod Starborn Aesthetic on Nexus Mods. I'm not sure if it's on Creations or not.

[lavish flax]

Ah gotch. Nice if so. Haven't seen starborn aesthetic before so I'll chdck

[kindred elm]

It was a bug I can't recreate it

[oblique mantle]

🥲

[grand zodiac]

Thank you

[grand zodiac]

Thank you for clarifying!
I might let it at a home or outpost with the "this is your home" command then when i don't have him following me!
Still nice.

Ah well, i don't use any outside mod but i usually play using all the creation club achievement friendly mods so i wouldn't install everything else.
I didn't think it worked like that since most achievement friendly creations now are compatible with everything else.
No possible update in the future?
Still thank you for the answer anyway.

general question here if anyone knows:

I downloaded accidentally a mod that was not achievement friendly, i checked again and i "deleted" it, THEN i played the game.
So my save won't be marked and i'll be able to get achievements?
Thank you!

thank you

and for StarChat, no update expected? Just to know if i should keep a save before the end of it just in case

[primal orchid]

have anyone tried to use Marvelous designer til create outfits for Starfield or previous bethesda titles?

[safe sorrel]

Can’t you do this by using the gangs all here mod?

[rancid basin]

You can, but this guy is hung up on wanting it to be in the companion mod and the mindset that everything needs to be achievement friendly

[safe sorrel]

I have Starborn furniture as part of my Furnish Your Fleet mod with more coming in the next update; and that’s available through creations https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/4bb10c93-5e28-4b7a-b6c4-34d8d366723b/Furnish_Your_Fleet

[safe sorrel]

Ah, then I guess they’re out of luck then

[rancid basin]

One would assume that, but this is one of those "really vocal minority" type individuals. As evidenced by some of the posts here, has the "I paid money, give me what I want, not just what you advertised", mindset.

[safe sorrel]

Yeah I noticed that. Money isn’t a magic potion that gets you everything you ever dreamed of (unless you have an awful lot of it to throw around, then it can be quite often I guess) but a lot of people seem to think it is.

We buy what is offered, not everything we dream up for ourselves and want to will into existence. That’s what learning to do it yourself is for

[grand zodiac]

anyone using the "useful mess hall" mod?
I was wondering, if i have a cooking station in a lounge (like the trident lounge), does it work, or it has to be a mess hall room?

same for infirmary, does it have to be in a dedicated room or just any empty hab with medical beds works?

[rancid basin]

You would need to check the individual hab mod to see if they are built to be compatible or have a patch to be compatible. If not, they won't work with it

Great example of this is the Graf habs stating in their description that the infirmary is built compatible with Useful Infirmaries

[grand zodiac]

so it would have to be a vanilla mess hall or empty hab?
Also i noticed that you can craft "usefull mess hall tables", does it mean you can put them in vanilla empty habs to make it work?

[grand zodiac]

for useful infirmary, my question was more: do you need an actual infirmary or can you just craft medical begs and a pharmacy workbench?

[jolly torrent]

Useful Mess Halls is a banger of a mod. Whoever created it is awesome. I’m not sure why that wasn’t in the vanilla game.

[rancid basin]

Yes, you can put those in any hab.

[rancid basin]

My understanding is it needs to be an infirmary. Not sure if a patch exists that does anything different

[boreal osprey]

I thought you were removing everything from Nexus?

[grand zodiac]

@vagrant trench hey hey, me again, i'm trying to start the veil but nothing happens, i'm lv 131, i jumped to Adromas, traveled between the planets in the system, but cannot trigger the quest start.

[grand zodiac]

Is there a way to force trigger it?
Because if not, i'm not sure how i can play it

ok after traveling from planets for a while to planets as some people said on internet, it worked

[torn sigil]

how do i fix the mod page ingame it says i have stuff in my libary but when i go to the website they arnt there

[signal coral]

I don't think there is a way to fix it. My library and fav list is completely differnet from the website lol

[torn sigil]

you would thing that bethesda would also add a "Remove from libary" button on consoles aswell cuz not everyones got a PC

[signal coral]

There is no remove on PC either

[torn sigil]

yea its a needed feature

[signal coral]

I can unfav something but it still shows for me on the game menu, At one point they were synced with teh website for me. but that has long since gone.

or unbokmark... just not both lol

[torn sigil]

ive even downloaded these mods and then deleted em and they still stick

[signal coral]

yep

I have a laundry list of mods I tried and dind't like, but now I'm stuck with them in lu library on the ingame menu

[torn sigil]

wonder if i give bethesda the details they can send a poke to the accounts details to basically clean slate

[signal coral]

Let me know if you find a solution lol

Its really grasting my OCD lol

Well so much for typing today lol

[torn sigil]

also isnt there ment to be more catagories XD all i got is featured VC BGS bookmarked libary and the populars

[signal coral]

they seem to change on a daily basis lol

[sharp lynx]

furnish your feet

[safe sorrel]

You know, I do in fact make shoes, so can indeed furnish my feet

[median drift]

🤣

[safe sorrel]

Quentin Tarantino Downloaded it though and sent me a nasty DM saying it made his coffee maker spit flames

And that there wasn’t quite enough feet, but some feet and that was surprising

[normal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/spilling-spits-water-gif-5910757

[sharp lynx]

I've downloaded your mod and now my couch speaks rodian

[drifting maple]

Try verifying the game files if you haven't already.

[jolly torrent]

I can’t wait for more space horror themed mods. Ngl. I want this game to get downright creepy.

[kindred elm]

All I'm saying is at least sentinel ai follows us starfield was released in 2024

And we can't have multiple followers unless we download other mods to make them actually follow u without dismissing anyone else in your group if your paying for them...

Otherwise they literally are just ship chatter and decorations

[prisma gazelle]

Weeping angels, xenomorphs, yautja,

[kindred elm]

Miss o plays and sharkicirnKing

Im only asking because downloading a free mod will disable the achievements
I'm trying to play a achievement friendly modded game

Then once I collect all my paid modded stuff in game then I will use the gangs all here or recruitable npcs

I'm saying I should not need a free mod to do something that the paid follower mod should already allow me to do

Like how don't u understand that they're paid for followers that don't actually follow u unless u dismiss a follower lol

Paid followers that actually follow u not tell u they aren't because u already have a follwer with u

Like others have said there needs to be certain rules

1. They do not take up companion slots

2 they should follow u without dismissing othe followers

following u should be your choice not an arbitrary choice since u are paying for them

[sharp lynx]

this all sounds like great suggestions lol but you seem to be subjecting how you want the mod to be onto others lol I suggest making one the way you want it to be made.

I've never made a follower and only use sarah so I can't relate and wouldn't know.

[prisma gazelle]

We need a SCP foundation mod

[kindred elm]

No I'm just saying why is there a limit

[sharp lynx]

maybe the intention is to have them behave and feel like vanilla companions which have a limit.

they should follower the player tho

one would expect a follower to follow the player

[kindred elm]

No one seems to think there's nothing wrong with paid follower that don't follow u and thats all I'm saying it kinda hurts my feelings that I paid for Emily I paid from lyria I paid for robin I paid for Derek

Tank girl one would absolutely expect a paid follower to follow u without dismissing other followers I would expect for vanilla free followers to have that certain amount of followers limitation not a paid for companion

This isn't about achievements achievement friendly tags or achievement hunting

It's simply asking why don't they allow me to force them to follow me instead of picking? They're paid for... So they should auto come with this functionality...

I'm not forcing them the mod authors of these awesome companions

But doesn't it make sense that if y wanna get to really know these characters that u bring them with you so u can here them scream at enemies

U can hear the comment on scenery or certain locations

But u will never hear it because they are ship bound decorations unless u dismiss one to bring another just wondering why?

Derek is the only one that understands me took him to the key he starts acting like a pirate lol everyone else got the firing squad

crimson fleet has no use for paid companions that don't follow... Orders

[sharp lynx]

wait so they do follow the player

and your only complaint is that they behave like normal in-game companions

[jolly torrent]

Yes!!!!! Especially Xenomorphs

[sharp lynx]

Sorry I'm doing a bunch of stuff XD it would help if I actually read the whole paragrah

[kindred elm]

Paid companions dismiss any other companions they have some sort of limitation as to how many can follow u

I'm saying why is the limitation in place for paid companions?

[sharp lynx]

because I'm pretty sure they would like their mod to not feel like a mod and part of the game as this is a game feature and makes it look more professional and immersive.

[kindred elm]

If mods like recruit any npc or the gangs all here can force anyone to follow u then why don't the paid companions allow u to force them to follow u?

Why do the paid companions get to tell me no? U already have someone following u. LoL like what cause I paid for u with real money then bought u with fake money then paid u in-game uc credits to do so lol

Not to sit on my ship waiting for me dismiss another lol

[sharp lynx]

sometimes in life the thing that is made isn't made the way you want it, that's part of life

[kindred elm]

Which is why I'm asking the mod author to make a paid version of recruitable npcs so I can then use that paid for mod to force another paid for mod to do what the other paid for mods should already allow me to do lol

[sharp lynx]

my suggestion would be to make a nice suggestion for the folks who made those... I know for me as a modder if someone approached me this way about something I may have intentionally made and said because I paid for it, its your job to make it the way I want it. I will 100% not do exactly what they ask me at all. But if someone said "Hey, I like this... could you do that?" you bet, I'll totally do that for you."

If it was a bug, that'd be totally understandable

[kindred elm]

But tank girl I'm not saying because I paid for it do it this way

I'm just saying if they are paid for why don't they?

That's literally what I'm asking each mod author who makes companion mods it seems to be an oversight

[sharp lynx]

so I did respond to that lol

"Tank_Girl444 — Today at 4:40 PM
because I'm pretty sure they would like their mod to not feel like a mod and part of the game as this is a game feature and makes it look more professional and immersive."

In the game. real companions limit the number so you can have a personal journey with said companion. these companions are meant to come with the same level of experience.

this is my assumption

at the end of the day it's up the author how they wanted it to function.

I know if I spent 100s of hours and hired VAs I'd prefer for someone to take that person on a personal journey rather then them being back seat 4th wheel.

[kindred elm]

More professional and immersive?

How can any companion be back seat if they are all following me Immersive is them following me

It's unimmersive when they tell me no because I have other followers but these followers are paid for

I'm saying it makes more sense to have them follow me this way I don't have to pick and choose what paid for followers I wan to learn about seperatly instead they are all giving opinions on a situation they all are helping me raid bases they all are commenting certain scenery

Not one at a time

There is no option to force them to follow me I can ask and ask but they will only do it if u dismiss someone else in the party

I'm recruiting them for this reason to follow me at all times so I can hear what they all have to say at once about certain events scenery story

Not one at a time

[jolly torrent]

@sharp lynx Another random ass question. Are you or is anyone else working on a mod that introduces more food items to the game? I know it’s a lot with textures and the like, but I’m just curious. Some aspects of this game look amazing, especially the food.

[sharp lynx]

In the game followers tell you no, ergo they made it like a follower would behave in the game

[kindred elm]

So yeah I'm just gonna have to try to get the mod author of recruitable npcs to make a mod that corrects this

[sharp lynx]

honestly I think if they were meant to be a main follower and didn't come with a limit that would be oversite and an error

because once again main followers do that in the game

I dunno I just have this winner follow me around

[kindred elm]

You say say that but then there's mods like recruitable npc or the gangs all here if there is a limitation these two mods figured out how to make it so u have multiple followers

[sharp lynx]

that's a mod, made by a completely different person who has no connection to anyone but them

expecting it to be different is a little outlandish actually, because once again main companions come one at a time

[kindred elm]

So is there a limitation or is this something the modders are limiting themselves

[young laurel]

You need a mod like that to make it work properly. Companions with story and environment voice lines will conflict without something like The Gang's All Here's ability to choose which one will speak.

[sharp lynx]

I am

[kindred elm]

Jkruse ahhhhhh ok... Ok I think I get what ur saying

I have never used the gangs all here

Only recruitable npcs

[young laurel]

You basically need a framework to make the more complex ones work together, which is what those other mods are.

[sharp lynx]

Lol I forgot about barklines lol

[kindred elm]

Which forces anyone to follow u it works on these paid companions but with out this mod they go back to telling me no lol

Which made me feel like are the mod authors purposefully limiting it.

[young laurel]

Per 'The gang's all here's page there's also an issue with commands, like wait and follow, that can have issues with multiple followers

[kindred elm]

Yeah I never use that one I only use recruitable npc which works wonders on these paid companions they are forced to follow me not tell me no lol

This way I get to hear all the commentary all the bickering all the scenery exposition commentary lol all at once not like some robotic one at a time lol

[jolly torrent]

Damn. How many mods are you working on at once? May I get a preview of the food one? Pretty please?

Be still, my beating heart.

Wait….were those stuffed peppers?!?!?!

Ay Madón!!!!

@sharp lynx Where can I make a donation?

[true valley]

Hi everyone. For xbox series x starfield, when using the mod "DEEPSEEKER WARRIOR SET", how do I apply the wakizashi skin?
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/d2b40e41-d5bf-4d48-a51b-cad14e139555/DEEPSEEKER_WARRIOR_SET

[sharp lynx]

those were stuffed peppers

[jolly torrent]

More of those type of mods, please. My game is ready.

[kindred elm]

To the mod author of Emily archer

I love her questline gave me District 9 vibes

To the mod author of lyria I love her goofiness

To the mod author of them robin Locke shes my right hand in the crimson fleet

To the mod author of Derek this robot has personality disorder lmao I love it

But to all the mod authors plz allow us to have them all follow us lol

[jolly torrent]

Especially food mods.

[grand zodiac]

well i checked and Emily actually takes a crew slot, unlike Lyria.

[kindred elm]

I know Emily does but I never knew companion slot only refers to ship and outpost not followers following me... U learn something new everyday

But u would expect companion slot to also included following me is all I'm saying lol 🤣

The only mod author that actually agreed that they might just might look into having their companion follow u indefinitely is the mod author for lyria but we have to wait until they finish a huge update for her and then only then will they consider it all I'm asking for is for other mod authors of these awesome companions to just consider it no one is forcing their will unto the mod author that they must do this... Just asking and hoping

[grand zodiac]

@vagrant trench I tested it, unfortunately, she takes up a slot, cannot assign her to my crew.

I was trying to find the right message to reply ^^

Since it's not intended to be like that, i wanted to let you know.

Not sure if there is a condition to trigger to recruit her without taking up a slot, or if you'll just have to fix/update it but i'd be grateful for it anyway, i'd really love to be able to recruit her despite the crew limit.

[kindred elm]

I'd really like if she followed me everywhere

I turned Travis Miles into a companion in fallout 4 because he tells u stories of the wasteland but how would Travis Miles know this if he wasn't traveling the wasteland with the lone wanderer...

Well now he travels with u everywhere u go so it makes sense that he is able to tell the stories about the wasteland he knows... Does this Makes sense?

It would be an even better experience with starfield's paid companions if they traveled with us... Sitting at tables at the terrabrew telling us their past experiences or whatever it is u mod authors programmed them to say lol

[grand zodiac]

well, i'm just saying that cause mod author stated she did not take any crew slot, so i assume if she does, it's something that has to be updated/fixed.

[kindred elm]

Hey nono do u have Emily in your active party like can she follow u

[grand zodiac]

she can follow me yes

but only if i assign her to my crew

[kindred elm]

Are u crimson fleet?

[grand zodiac]

no, i did pick UC sysdef

[kindred elm]

Does Emily attack uc sysdef members?

[sharp lynx]

lol we need more of that

I want anti-constellation.

[grand zodiac]

no idea, i could not add her to my crew yet

i'm waiting for the fix lol

[kindred elm]

Oh well I'm thinking about deleting the veil and reinstalling it to see if I actually complete her storyline first then start rook meets king will she still be hostile towards the fleet. I can't have her going rogue on the fleet like she did before

I could have sworn she didn't have a magshear

Does she?

[grand zodiac]

magshear?

oh the weapon, no idea, i did not even check her weapons, since i cannot recruit her.

[kindred elm]

Tank girl I roleplay as Neava moras big brother 😆

I am a crimson fleet captain who is trying to work with constellation not against constellation. Forging alliances between the crimson fleet, freestar, UC, and constellation.

Using recruitable npcs

All of constellation is on my ship no one is at the lodge Walter stroud has blue contacts and is renamed mass effects the illusive man + Delgado Neava and shinya voss.

I am way over the limit of ppl u should be able to have on a ship but they aren't counted because I started but did not complete their quest so I could keep them indefinitely until I complete everything then I will complete their quests as a farewell goodbye nice to know u. Before going thru the unity.

Nono I could have sworn Emily had a pistol not a magshear

[kindred elm]

She already has this in her inventory

[grand zodiac]

I like to finish quests, i don't plan to go in Unity again, i did that like 10+ times at release already

[kindred elm]

I did not give her this

I'm still in my 1st universe I've never left been playing since release lol

[grand zodiac]

One of the main reason i bought the mod because the author stated here that the follower you get at the end can be recruited without taking a crew slot, so i hope it's just a bug and it will be fixed.
I'd be surprised if not tho, especially when the other companion the author made is one that does not take any slot (Lyria).

So, it should be fine

[kindred elm]

This is my vanilla achievement friendly only game file

There is no option to ask Emily to follow me

[grand zodiac]

you need companions to be part of your crew in order for them to follow you

or at least to have the "follow me" option

[grand zodiac]

weird, did you finish the quest?

[kindred elm]

Yes

[grand zodiac]

well, bug i guess then

even if she takes a crew slot at least i had the option to assign her to my crew (after kicking someone else)

[kindred elm]

But it says that even after u finish her quest new quest will appear... Those have not appeared yet we are on the ship

Vanilla achievement friendly only

[grand zodiac]

I'll test myself to check

[kindred elm]

I'm supposed to be able to ask Emily to follow me

[grand zodiac]

ok i tested, it works for me, i have the option

[kindred elm]

I'm gonna delete and reinstall

[grand zodiac]

@but still cannot assign her to my crew when it's 8/8

: (

[kindred elm]

I'm gonna test to see if I complete Emily's quest line 1st and then try king meets rook... will Emily still be hostile towards the fleet?

Like Emily chill out u work for me now lol

[sharp lynx]

Sounds really fun

[kindred elm]

It doesn't matter if I dismiss robin Locke I still can't ask Emily to follow me she is ship bound only

I can only ask her let's trade and do you mind if I ask u something

[last whale]

Cool, so this is awesome - apparently people are reporting "do not download" test mods for code of conduct violations. I got an email from Bethesda saying they were removing my test mod (actually after I'd already deleted it, but whatever). There was a rather passive aggressive line included saying my account could be terminated if this keeps happening.

So I guess Xbox players/Bethesda doesn't want tested/working Xbox mods any more. Oh well, guess that's my first and last Xbox release then.

[jolly torrent]

Big, big request!!!!! Female military style tight buns that appear under hats/caps/berets

Willing to pay!!!

[kindred elm]

Nono when u install mods he will auto upgrade the suit

Oh I was just showing its an achievement friendly only mod load order sorry bout that lol☺️

[sharp lynx]

that doesn't sound passive-aggressive that sounds direct XD

[last whale]

It sounds moronic.

[sharp lynx]

I recommend putting your concern in the feedback channel

and giving a valid reason why it would be necessary to have.

[last whale]

No need. I won't be making another Xbox compatible mod if this is the result of necessary testing.

[sharp lynx]

I mean, nothing gets done if you don't communicate but that's on not my call.

who knows they do indeed listen to feedback or might even have a valid reason why

either way not doing so wont give you either answer

[last whale]

It was incredibly obvious what the mod and test was for, and why.

They decided it was against the rules. So no tests. And no more Xbox mods from me.

[sharp lynx]

and all would be valid things to bring up

which is why I say go for it

[kindred elm]

Macarya now I'm wondering what kinda test lol

[last whale]

Xbox textures. Given that Bethesda didn't bother to document how things have changed from PC or the old Xbox One textures made by texconv.

[kindred elm]

Oh that sounds harmless

[last whale]

It was.

[sharp lynx]

from my understanding for Xbox they just need to be compressed as BC1

[kindred elm]

But can't u still upload it as a test? I could test it for u on an Xbox one x not a series s/x we could go way back lol

[last whale]

Nope, that's what I got reported for. Luckily someone had already tested it for me before Bethesda removed it. But this hassle isn't worth it.

[kindred elm]

Understood

[last whale]

BC1 for anything BC7, it seems like probably everything else can stay as PC.

[sharp lynx]

just the defuse

color maps

correct

everything else is normal

[jolly torrent]

Please don’t. This game needs more Xbox mods, period. Please don’t do that.

[last whale]

Don't tell me, tell Bethesda. I don't know what they're thinking, between this and the achievements mess.

[sharp lynx]

I mean it's not gonna go anywhere if people just sit and get angry and don't try and bridge the gap of comms but here we are

[vale knot]

OMG

[sharp lynx]

I made a thing

[last whale]

Nobody's going to sit and get angry, they're going to leave and do other things.

[jolly torrent]

Right, but, at least in my opinion, mods made this game so much more. Please don’t take away your creativity or place it just for PC folk just because of your anger and frustration. I’m an Xbox console pleb who wants so much more from this game that I know only modders can deliver.

[sharp lynx]

then I guess that's where you'll be

[last whale]

Yup

[sharp lynx]

I made a thing today

[jolly torrent]

May I see?

Lol

[jolly torrent]

Please don’t go.

[sharp lynx]

wait that's the other thing

Look at that!

I call it, Los Angeles.

[kindred elm]

District 9 lol

[sharp lynx]

It's modeled after Megaton kind of.... vaguely, you have city around clear spot.

[kindred elm]

Like... Like a new city mod?

[sharp lynx]

I can't wait to do those lol

the game is young many things to do

@safe sorrel I'll furnish this fleet

[safe sorrel]

You have to upload the mod as a WIP only, that way you are the only person that sees it. That’s how Xbox testing is set up to be done

[jolly torrent]

Is this a project to have real cities on Earth?

[grand zodiac]

@south tulip Hello, I love your trident luxury habs, but i'd love it even more with 3-2 or 3-3 habs (like the lounge, it's epic, with the bar, the music, dancing crew, etc... but it would be really crazy to be able to make it a central/main hab of the ship, right now it's only possible to put it on sides.

Just suggesting! I'd instant buy and a lot of other people would probably do too!

I'd probably keep the crew/captain hab for sides, but the garden and the lounge definitely deserve a 3-2 or 3-3 hab ! : D

Maybe a potential idea for a "Trident Luxury Habitats pack 2" lol

[jolly torrent]

Whomsoever created the Synth Music mod then ported it over to the Xbox is amazing!!! It completely replaces the ridiculous OST and makes the game have far more atmosphere.

I just hope they keep updating it to make the soundtrack more robust. It’s an amazing must have mod, at least IMHO. Still waiting for @sharp lynx to drop that Pulse Rifle/ food mod lol

[lavish flax]

Oh sweet. Gonna use this and keep an eye out for for updates. Love the starborn aesthetic

[sharp lynx]

gotta furnish them feet

[lavish flax]

😂

[safe sorrel]

Same here! There are a few furniture pieces already in the kit I didn’t manage to pack in to the first update that’s being added, and I’m trying to put together some larger pieces like the bathrooms, showers kitchens etc that fit with the style as well

Give Starborn players some nice set pieces to put their feet up on and show them off to their crew mates

[lavish flax]

Can't wait for that! I use the guardian pretty often if I'm on a variant universe so being able to decorate with the same or similar aesthetic is something I'm looking forward to

[safe sorrel]

PiggyLover96 said it was their favorite mod, made Sarah’s shoes disappear, 10 out of 10

[sharp lynx]

Randomuser444 said their shoes quickly become dependant on shoe polish after downloading

[safe sorrel]

And they liked that

[tawdry sluice]

Miss O Plays I just used Furnish the Fleet with the STEM habs that are completely empty to make the most amazing 3x1 Captain’s Quarters. It is so great.

AND I love invisible craft stations too. So awesome.

[safe sorrel]

Nice!! So happy you like it!

[devout flame]

Probably some of the last few items to be added. Big Struckture is the Industrial Hangar! It comes with a Hanar (obvoiusly) but an entire Spaceship Workshop, and crewstation!

[median drift]

this looks AWESOME!

[median drift]

and this too 😆

[sharp lynx]

Ahoi vince

[median drift]

hey !
wait, you're still awake ? :o

[sharp lynx]

I never sleep

[median drift]

I see 😂

[tawdry sluice]

Miss O Plays, I think that invisible craft stations might be a really underrated mod. You can decorate and use all your goodies and then make it a craft station. It's awesome!

[sharp lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-i-dont-need-no-sleep-gif-17899403

[median drift]

like a tank, you don't need to sleep 😂

[sharp lynx]

first I love it second I thought you were wearing one of those stop cones on your head for a min

[tawdry sluice]

It's some Princess Leia buns from Zone's mod. I thought it was cute.

[sharp lynx]

yea I love it

[kindred elm]

Today the paid version of vendors sell faction gear is supposed to drop

I can't wait 🥹 finally get to wear neavas original crimson fleet outfit

[lyric finch]

There's several mods that already allow that outfit? Unless you're specifically trying to get achievements

[kindred elm]

Nono Emily starts with a gun similar to the deadeye not a magpulse lol

[autumn idol]

my mod doesn't have this issue🤣

yet people still won't try it out oddly
it works for both Paid and free companions with no issues

[thick plaza]

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/1ce5b909-198b-40f3-82de-3de0cd44dfac/Personal_Vendor_Tweaks

[jolly torrent]

Is that the issue you were telling me about with “The Gang’s All Here”?

[thick plaza]

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/a7fd58b9-d6a9-4eda-a7fc-3a21789eaa3f/Faction_Requisition_Kiosks

[autumn idol]

yes

if I can port the timeout for Affinity events my port would be the definitive version

[jolly torrent]

I definitely want to use your version. I’m just scared of disabling “The Gang’s All Here” midsave and then enabling your version. I’m not sure if that would break my save or not.

[autumn idol]

does the gang all here have an uninstaller?

since you need to deactivate its scripts

[jolly torrent]

Not that I saw on Xbox.

[young laurel]

Oh, no, not that the mod has that issue, it's saying the game has that issue if you just use the console command. I haven't tried either way personally, so 🤷

[boreal osprey]

lol I was about ask if this megaton after seeing the first pic. then I scrolled down XD Just need a big nuke in the middle

[boreal osprey]

Is there a way to share it with others for them to test? I don't have a console with SF so I can only test on PC.

[south tulip]

Thank you. I'm glad you like it. I have plans to do the park, lounge and the rev 8 hanger in 3x2s. After I finish the my next mod. Maybe be a little while. These habs take awhile to build and decorate since I'm decorating in a modern clean but lived in style.

[dusky escarp]

Without publishing it, the only way I know of to share your mod with others to get it tested on XBox is to give them the files so that they can upload them themselves (without publishing, of course) and download them onto their own XBoxes. A handful of fellow-VCs have trusted me with their files and I was able to test and debug their creations for them on my Series S, so I know the scheme works. It has to be people you trust not to steal your mod, obviously. Ideally, though, you should buy a cheap Series S of your own - it makes testing and debugging a whole lot faster.

Alternatively, if you take out a suitable GamePass subscription, there is a way to do it on a virtual console on the cloud. I haven't tried this myself but i'm assured that it works.

[jolly torrent]

Hey @dusky escarp any good mods coming from you any time soon?

[kindred elm]

@thick plaza paid mods only so I can play vanilla starfield

[fringe trench]

Looking for a bit of advice to an issue I’m facing.

Basically I’m trying to build a reaalllly big ship. HALO Frigate style. 99% of things are working fine apart from connecting to landing bay to cockpit. There is a path to where I want them, though I imagine the game can’t find it due to the height. Any specific mods or ways around this?

I should clarify I’m already running mods that loosen restrictions on ship building parts and using Silly big ship’s configuration.

[kindred elm]

@south tulip whatever u do plz just make sure the rev-8 can go on the ground level of a ship so we aren't forced to have the rev-8 hanger as the wing of the ship. LoL

[eager ether]

Is anyone able to put the cyberpunk outfit and jacket into starfeild

I know it’s on fallout 4 mods for console

😁

[safe sorrel]

Right? It’s a really small mod, but one that I’ve used in every build since I published it.

It’s like the deep cut track that only the cool peope know about

[safe sorrel]

I think you would have to find a tester you trust who also has the CK and can upload it as a WIP themself to test it that way, then delete it once testing is finished, or leave it there as a WIP to update for any future testing

[kindred elm]

Bruh whoever made Emily archer u gotta make her stop attacking the fleet if we are crimson fleet lol

She done lost her mind lol

[dusky escarp]

Like Bethesda, I do not reveal plans 😄

[kindred elm]

Emily Made Delgado run thru that door lol

U have to wait for the fleet to ko Emily before u can progress the story... I guess the mod author never played as crimson fleet to check and see if Emily would be hostile or not which she is in fact hostile towards

[oblique mantle]

https://youtu.be/7WnGU-r5IMk?si=6Lv8JD8PLPkDJvrY

[kindred elm]

Emily chill out u work for me now lol

[devout flame]

New video on Industrial Hangar, lol! https://youtube.com/shorts/dC1kWQh-EtQ?feature=share

[kindred elm]

U can still get thru the quest line but Emily stagnates the crap out of it lol

[primal orchid]

Does anyone know if there's a guide on how to apply a skeleton to a hat/headwear

[cold vault]

Sorry for the late response. But please post these in #1146468823822774322

Also, let's try to be a bit more polite to each other please.

[rancid basin]

Between your mod and Miss O's new one, guess I'm gonna have to become an outpost builder.

[fringe trench]

Anyone got some extra mods/workarounds for ship building, specifically in relation to ship height? I’ve got mods that allow me to build massive ships but still my cockpit can only be like 6 modules high off from land bay? I don’t think anything is conflicting but I’m no modder.

Bruh

[kindred elm]

That's what I said lol

[rancid basin]

Now that I think about it, I've not built any beyond that height to know for sure if I have that issue or not. I use TN's ship builder mods(not the class m though) and ship building tweaks. Have made some obscenely large ships, but never paid attention to how high the cockpit/bridge was to the landing bay

[cold vault]

I'm going to ask one more time that people be polite to each other on this server.

[torn sigil]

has the mod menu been fixed its been bugged for me since shattered space TLDR it only shows down till the latest tab none of the catagories

[cold vault]

AND that if someone asks for a subject to be dropped, drop it.

[fringe trench]

I’m currently using ship building tweaks, TNs M class and Silly big ship configuration. I’ve only just started with building tweaks hoping it would fix it but no, sadly it hasn’t. I understand what I’m attempting to make is…pushing it (think HALO Frigate) but I’d have thought such mods would have changed that restriction.

[torn sigil]

hey couchtato is there a posibility of you or someone at bethesda sending a data package to my account to force sync libaries cuz mine are broken

[rancid basin]

I've gotten that bug intermittently too. Usually leaving the menu and returning into it fixes it. Is that not working for you?

[torn sigil]

been that way since day one @rancid basin

even downloaded xyz and uninstalled xyz basically tried everthing i can think of

[fringe trench]

Rip

[rancid basin]

I almost wonder if there is a conflict between those that may be canceling it out. How is your load order? In mine I have TN stuff at the front of my ship mod section and put ship building tweaks near the end of my load order to be sure it gets the final say on any tolerances and ship size

[torn sigil]

but yeah if a bethesda member is able to help me with this libary sync issue that would be great tbh i dont know how they broke the mod menu on starfeild when the one on skyrim works 100% fine

[rancid basin]

That really sucks. Hopefully they can sort that out for you

[fringe trench]

I’ll double check and do some disabling etc to see if there’s a conflict. There could easily be. Load order wise the tweaks should be the overwriting factor though. I’ll play about with it now and come back.

[cold vault]

You can submit a ticket for troubleshooting here, I can't answer that question in good faith.

[torn sigil]

yeah that route ill be subjected to "redownload this and that" even tho in the report ive already stated i have done some steps XD

[rancid basin]

That's been the thing that has been blowing my mind. Some of the mods are super crazy sensitive to load order. I've had a session go from practically unplayable to nearly bulletproof just by swapping positions of a few mods.

[cold vault]

You will just have to keep working with them if possible.

[fringe trench]

Oh yeah for sure, first thing I noticed as well since hopping back on to try mods. Even things that I’d have thought wouldn’t conflict and are unrelated, have.

No change so far with just TNs class M, still getting landing bay error.

[rancid basin]

I know that folks have mentioned that sometimes errors persist even after disabling/uninstall. May need to make a hard save with only that installed. And hard load from that save. Also be sure to do a reboot of the game after any changes to your load order. Gives the files a chance to sort themselves out. If on console, restart the console

[west flare]

When will we have the ability to make new animations? When will it be publicly released?

[fringe trench]

Ya I typically try to do that after learning that the hard way and locking up my Xbox years ago on Fo4.

[jolly torrent]

I’m really needing them to release that and get it together.

[west flare]

We don't want reused animations. We want new animations and an animation resource for us to freely create for Starfield.

[autumn idol]

soon

[boreal osprey]

oh boy, here we go again Soon™ XD

[drifting maple]

Landing bay error can o cur in base game. Sometimes the game doesn't path to the cockpit, depending on the modules used.

That happens even if they are modules which have ladders and doors, because what it's doing is placing hatches and ladders to path through the ship, and sometimes it removes the path to the cockpit

Workaround is typically to swap other modules around and have it recalculate with the new module positions

[autumn idol]

they did it for facefx🤣

it will come in time

[drifting maple]

No guarantees that will work, but I've run into the issue and solved it that way

[boreal osprey]

true lol

[west flare]

How soon? Next Starfield update?

[autumn idol]

that idk

same as how they did FaceFx

[fringe trench]

Sadly I’ve tried that, practically replaced and built the ship from the ground up again, with new habs, different orders etc. the main consistency is height, once I’m over vanilla limit it won’t work.

Could be a part missing from the mods, could be a conflict, I could just be very dumb. Many possibilities

[drifting maple]

The further the cockpit is from the landing bay, it seems the more likely it will pop up.

Might just be you need to adjust the design to lower the cockpit or move the bay closer to it.

Shops can get pretty messed up; I captured a First ship once and it had pathetic ladders through turret placements

*pathed

Ships* 😆

Autocorrect is ridiculous sometimes

[fringe trench]

Yeah im starting to believe the design itself may just not be feasible which is a shame. I’ll keep at it and see if it frees me from suffering or if I find a new mod that makes a change because so far it just doesn’t want to cooperate

[oblique mantle]

What Starfield needs 🥲

[jolly torrent]

Man, I wish. I can’t wait to see what the modders create with new animations. I don’t know what’s taking them so long with that.

[jolly torrent]

I would like that very much. That’d be nice.

[torn sigil]

great new issues have risen not only are mods stuck in my libary but they are now stuck in bookmarks aswell while the website says i have nothing

[jolly torrent]

What do the FaceFX look like? Just curious.

[autumn idol]

https://facefx.com

[jolly torrent]

How difficult would it be to add colors to the berets like the 82nd Airborne? Also, unit crests on berets?

[jolly torrent]

Oh, so that’s what they mean by lip sync. Gotcha.

[true valley]

Hi everyone. For xbox series x starfield, For the mod "Vale Armor Standalone (Port)", are you able to craft it?
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/0620b868-3200-4156-a506-1aa444dbb0ad/Vale_Armor_Standalone__Port_

[safe sorrel]

One of us, one of us

[fringe trench]

So uhhh…I found a fix. Still WIP. It’s pretty big.

[true valley]

Hi everyone. For xbox series x starfield, when using the mod "Jaeger-556 - Light Machine Gun", where exactly on jemson can I buy the "Jaeger-556" gun?
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/602116d1-8f81-4ff4-83c4-49a842b8b6fe/Jaeger_556___Light_Machine_Gun

[normal steeple]

@true igloo ^

[true igloo]

Most weapon vendors should have it (except laraedo), when testing I found it at Centurian arms.

It's added to a list of possible spawns so you might need to refresh a few times by waiting in game for 48-72 hours depending on luck

[true valley]

Out of all of the places on jemson, where do you think would be the best place to try to get it at?

[true igloo]

Centurian Arms, it's one of the shops near-ish to MAST tower

[fierce ridge]

Wait what! When did starfield get this! 😂

[fierce ridge]

Love all your weapons mate! This is one of my favourites currently

Does anyone know if the author of the mod BASHKIT is releasing any updates? As the mods really broken

[sharp lynx]

@distant stream

might be a bot

[fierce ridge]

Now all Starfield needs is a scar h mod 😂

[thick plaza]

Can't wait drop this

[fierce ridge]

Is this for the male only body or female as well?

[thick plaza]

it’s mainly for male characters but it will be wearable for female characters as well

[fierce ridge]

Awesome!! Finally someone doing none star wars outfits 😂

[thick plaza]

🤣

[fierce ridge]

Btw @thick plaza your m4a1 mod for me keeps saying I have an update for it on the creation page I’ve updated it like 5 times

[thick plaza]

yeah creations is bugged, it does the same for me

[fierce ridge]

Ah right okay so not just me then 😂

Besides that the mod is incredible! Only thing I noticed is the hand placement on the grip is too low

[jolly torrent]

Yeah, that happens to me ALL the time I’ve updated mods like 500 times. Still stays there. I gave up after a while. Lol.

[fierce ridge]

As long as the mods work it’s not really an issue I just thought I’d let the author know on case anything was going on lol

[true valley]

Thanks for the help.

[true igloo]

No worries

[fierce ridge]

Can’t believe starfield got a m249 mod

@true igloo I’m guessing the mag on your lmg is meant to say 9999999

[true igloo]

Yeah, can't do actual animations like reloads so the large number makes it so all the ammo the player can carry is put straight into the gun

Like the belt is feeding directly from the inventory

[fierce ridge]

Oh damn nice! Good thing I crafted loads of ammo 😂

[grand zodiac]

ok! no problem! I'll try to check times to times just in case xD

[south tulip]

That's part of the plan.

[brazen socket]

Any date to release? This is very good.

[jolly torrent]

Yeah, thankfully, my mods still work. For some reason, the ship framework doesn’t. I have to check it and see.

[fierce ridge]

@true igloo this 249 sounds like a really angry minigun 😂 I love it!!

[fierce ridge]

Oh right I don’t use that mod I don’t think

[devout flame]

Latest in the Workshop, Industrial Hangar- Full Video!
https://youtu.be/7DXN5J7Bq24

[normal steeple]

Submitting tomorrow, not sure I'm gonna make xmas. Send xmas cheer my way 🙏

[sharp lynx]

opens door, "package on porch" X-mas cheer

[fierce ridge]

So does anyone know if there’s a mod on Xbox that can change the interior colour of your ships? As the white interior is very boring

[tawdry sluice]

@safe sorrel you are my absolute HERO! I've gotten so many mods that add buildings, but I could never get Bard's colonists you go in the buildings. Boom! Three colonists just hanging out. I'm so happy! Sim Settlements in SPACE!

[tawdry sluice]

The STEM habs that are all empty? They have choices that are different colors. Like they have Deimos habs that are white or black.

[safe sorrel]

Yesss! Trying to get NPCs to go into the habs and walk through doors was such an ordeal, really happy to know even Bards colonists will go inside

[jolly torrent]

Try “Darker Interiors”

[rancid basin]

Dark Ship Interiors mod changes all of them to black or white with lots of black trim. Just be sure to put it at the end of all of your ship hab mods

[jolly torrent]

Exactly this

[steady willow]

The Apparel/Body/Immersion/Gear ( Varuun Outfits, CrimsonX, etc) They should go to the top underneath Patches, UI and Environmental and planets correct? I’m on the Xbox Series and it’s messing my game up

[dapper galleon]

@sly ocean sorry for ping but would you be willing to make a mod for starfield that adds a ring of unlocking type of thing? If so, could u release it on Xbox too?

[oblique mantle]

https://youtu.be/pr3doNLvODU?si=7y64fZATxhNJ4voZ
What a creation

[fierce ridge]

Thank you I’ll check it out tonight can’t stand the all white interiors as my exterior is all black and red

[tawdry sluice]

Miss O Plays, I gave your mod a glowing review on the NoSodiumStarfield reddit. Hope you get a few more downloads off that. 💖

[oblique mantle]

In my case I put the tour in Starfieldmods reddit

[oblique mantle]

BGS, we need a stock market minigame

[safe sorrel]

I just saw! Thank you!

I was so worried while I was making this that I was the only person who be in to the mining aesthetic, it’s been nice to see there are a few other dusty enthusiasts too

[fluid spear]

Hello. Im having a problem accessing creations on pc but i am able to on xbox. Any suggestions??

[misty abyss]

There's a number of errors / issues going on right now with the internet

Major hosting service seems to have crashed.

[sharp lotus]

Clearly too many people are downloading the hells gate mod B)

[tawdry sluice]

I love it. I've actually been holding onto mining outfits now so I can dress everyone. 🙂 I would love a farm version of this though or a Science version. Take my money Miss O Plays. 😉

[sharp lynx]

I got you fam

Farm stuff is my fav

[brazen socket]

Is it good?

[autumn idol]

apparently it is

[brazen socket]

Maybe I'll download and see what is what... 👍🙂

[sharp lynx]

There's probably reviews on it already

[jolly torrent]

I would try it out however, every time I try to boot up Creations from the Xbox, the game just crashes. Xbox Series X.

[signal coral]

I enjoyed it and I never played Doom before lol

[thick plaza]

Doom2016 is an incredibly based game

[brazen socket]

Nice! 😆

[subtle jungle]

It was a no-brainer grab for me. Utilizing it alongside Mining Sim mods or the like? Absolutely. I'm a total sucker for the outpost building system too though. Mining themes, military, industrial, science. I crave them all. 😂

I use most of your mods so there is also the knowing I'm getting something quality. Reputation is a powerful thing. Your stuff rocks. 🤘

[fringe trench]

Ah the man, the myth, the legend.
Any known conflicts/bugs with the M4A1? Just downloaded a handful of your mods (look insane btw) but I’m getting the “missing required ammo” error and 0s on HUD despite carrying 5.56

[safe sorrel]

Thanks! I always try my best with them

[thick plaza]

Yea the project warfare mod and the m4a1 use different ammo IDs so look for this one

In ammo boxes/crafting table & vendors

[fringe trench]

Ahhh okay, thank you. That makes a lot of sense

Wow the M4 sounds good.

[fierce ridge]

If your having trouble trying to get a good decent amount of this ammo just use the chest terminal to get lots of the primers to craft the new ammo type it’s what I did yes its cheating but it’s ammo 😂

[devout flame]

Just added a Mech Workshop; it will be the last object before I publish the mod!
https://youtube.com/shorts/10hhITCxysY?feature=share

[craggy wolf]

@signal coral . First. thanks for the mods.
The update to sarah overhaul, that changes her appearence, made her head disappear. Is there a way you can upload a dialog only version without the appearance change? Thank you for your time.

[signal coral]

I can re-upload the older version as an option. Are you on Xbox when this is happening?

[craggy wolf]

PC.
I tried to remove any mod that I thought would conflict with her appearce change, but I had no luck. Not sure what the issue is. I am playing on low graphics options?

[signal coral]

PC, Really... interesting.

Do you have any other mods that change anything else on Sarah? Default gear or anything like that?

Skills even

[craggy wolf]

I went through and uninstalled all that I thought would conflict. I could have missed something. I will give it another look at, and see if missed something. I do find the conflicting mod, I will let you know.

[signal coral]

Once I'm done work I'll see about uploading the conversation overhaul only.

[brazen socket]

Oh boy, this mod seems really amazing. Doesn anyone have it already?

[signal coral]

Just for you, friend: https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/24ea3d29-6777-4e7e-9110-070d782093db/Sarah_Overhaul_Lite

[jolly torrent]

Very nice. I like.

[jolly torrent]

I need to look at it. It does look dope af.

[brazen socket]

Yeah! If the modder deliver what they say, this could be a fantastic mod imho.

[jolly torrent]

How do you 400 and some odd GB of mods? Lol. I only have 2.90 GB and I’m bloody shaking in my boots, hoping my game doesn’t crash on Xbox Series X.

[jolly torrent]

It’s already out? Complete or will it be updated? I want to see it in creations, but creations menu makes my game crash. Lol

[brazen socket]

I saw it in Creations already

Its seem heavy indeed.

[jolly torrent]

Lol. I need that mod in my life.

I have a question: where would “At Hell’s Gate” go in my load order? Or is it truly “load order neutral”?

@autumn idol “Authentic Exchanges” shouldn’t conflict with any mod like “Renamed Companions”, will it?

[craggy wolf]

thanks!

[autumn idol]

mod link?

I only changed NPC_ records

[jolly torrent]

Thanks. About to download “Authentic Exchanges” from you now.

[autumn idol]

those are game settings btw so ya fine

[jolly torrent]

Thanks as always, bro bro

[brazen socket]

I usually put all "mod quests" up in my list but below the "overhaul" mods. But if it is order neutral it can go anywhere.

[coarse dirge]

Hi my mods that I have are all for ship building and since the update they are not working. I’m no longer able to build ships over 100m. Is my load order wrong or is anybody having the same problems

[devout flame]

Wicked Workshop Outpost Projeckt- Strucktured is LIVE: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12702

[shy cloak]

did you check and see if those mods are updated as well?

sometimes, after the base game updates, some mods may not work because the base game has some things changed in it, so you either have to wait for those mods to be updated by the mod author or those mods just dont work properly with the updated game and you may have to reinstall them or soemthing

[coarse dirge]

Thank you. I’m just going to reinstall them

[jolly torrent]

@coarse dirge is that the ship framework vendor mod?

Because mine has been acting strange ever since I’ve updated it.

[coarse dirge]

I’m not sure. I’m going to uninstall all of them and redownload them

[west flare]

My only complaint about the Doom mod is that the reload animation for the Doom shotgun is not unique.

[sharp lynx]

Well none of them will be as there's no animation tools

[west flare]

Really wish Bethesda would give us the animation tools for the next Starfield update:

[sharp lynx]

Only reason I haven't made true duel wield melee weapons yet

[west flare]

That sounds cool. That also made me wish for duel wield firearms and guns.

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-dual-guns-crazy-people-gif-21026588

Can't find the gif relating to Halo duel wielding as an example for wanting dual wielding mods for Starfield, so I found this instead. lol

[subtle jungle]

So I saw on Kinggath's site, the break down for the Doom rewards- "Constellation Pack Skin". I haven't gotten to check this out yet cause well, I don't have a Constellation Pack lmao. Aside from the one Sarah gives for joining the gang or the upgraded one during the questline, is there any other vanilla ways of obtaining a Constellation Pack?
Also checked the Mk1 and it didn't have a skin option so it's only for the Constellation Pack itself.

[thick plaza]

nova has done it again

[regal wasp]

his smile and joy: Restored

[jolly torrent]

I know. He’s cheesing hard in that screenshot.

[jolly torrent]

@sharp lynx I’m so patiently waiting for that food mod. 😂

[sharp lynx]

tellin ya it's only a matter of time

once people get more xp with the new stuff this game is gonna be amazing

new system lots of things to learn

[normal steeple]

Nova is the boss

[jolly torrent]

I need that food mod in my life. Lol

[boreal osprey]

Do you make your own animations or grab them online?

[west flare]

Neither. Just forced to use vanilla weapon animations.

[boreal osprey]

Ah, you asked about animation tools so I was curious if you had something you were working on XD

[jolly torrent]

@west flare please tell

[west flare]

I know nothing of it. I just wish they would release it on the next update. If not, then I'm gonna be peeved.

[jolly torrent]

I hope so. I really do

[jolly torrent]

Hell yeah!!!

@thick plaza Thank you!!!

[thick plaza]

Haha enjoy

[torn sigil]

i always forget how smol todd is its comical

hes just a lil guy

[sharp lotus]

Short king you mean

[supple nova]

What's the context?

[supple nova]

Bosmer

Boss mer

[stone birch]

Can i use both "No scanner Filter/animation" mod plus "Immersive HUD" I have them both at the top and seems don't work?

[jolly torrent]

I mean can I uninstall and reinstall “ship vendor framework” midsave or would it be better to just move the mod lower in my load order?

[stone birch]

Oh Geez gonna have to figure out which creation mod is doing this.. 😵‍💫

[sharp lynx]

Are you on Xbox

That doesn't look like a creation mod error

[cold slate]

Mod request:

[sharp lynx]

Bumper sword

[cold slate]

?

I don't understand.

[normal steeple]

True to your name then?

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-wheeze-laugh-nikkal-kundhal-nikkalkundhal-gif-23223780

[normal steeple]

Looks cool

[cold slate]

Not funny.

[normal steeple]

Depends on your sense of hummus

https://tenor.com/view/sauce-thick-and-rich-sauce-dip-dipping-homemade-gif-12763389

[cold slate]

I'm allergic to chickpeas.

[normal steeple]

Sorry for your loss 🙏

[cold slate]

What does Bumper mean in this context?

[normal steeple]

Like a car bumper?

[jolly torrent]

Oh dear.

[stone birch]

PC

[cold slate]

That sword is the Angel of Verdun sword from the tragically underrated movie Live. Die. Repeat. It is a salvaged and repurposed helicopter blade.

[jolly torrent]

I’m just scared

[sharp lynx]

Yep a bumper sword

Salvaged thing repurposed into sword

[wraith kernel]

Boromir scrubs up well, amazing what a shave can do 🥳

[cold slate]

Literally had never heard of a 'bumper sword' until today. I did not play the game my quick Google search turned up as reference.

But sure, let's make fun of me for asking for context so I can learn something new.

Thanks.

[sharp lynx]

Im sure no one was intentionally making fun of you probably a light hearted jab, this is a place peace freindo. Tho I can't assume, but at the same time I wouldnt assume they're being negative either. yea the bumper sword was a featured weapon in fnv similar to the design of the weapon you shown.

[thick plaza]

updated the mod, fixed crafting at the workbench and naming

[jolly torrent]

Great work, bro bro!!!

[crimson aurora]

Mod idea: Replace vendors with robots without changing the voices, so there's a good lore reason why stores are always open 24/7.

[jolly torrent]

Event Horizon like haunted by demons derelict ship quest would be badass

[boreal osprey]

WIP of the modular Tommy for the Old Earth Industries project

[young laurel]

Suggestion:

[boreal osprey]

Dear god where did that thing come from XD

[young laurel]

Some old prototype testing an in-line stock

Probably a pain to make work with regular sights though.

[jolly torrent]

Please, please continue!!!

I need more!!!

[boreal osprey]

I can only work so fast man lol

It's not 100% certain but I think I'll make a weapon store in New Homestead with all the Old Earth stuff. The real life guns and the redesigned versions for colonists/explorers

[steady willow]

Is there a mod for Xbox where you can build a starship? Also what is recommended for quest mods? I’ve already completed Veil, Doom, Hells gate, trackers, McClearance

[grand zodiac]

the name of the movie is "Edge of Tomorrow", no?

Live, Die, Repeat is just the tagline they used on some posters.
Not a bad movie, now i would not call it underrated since they had like 91% on rotten tomatoes with both critics score and public score.

[tiny quiver]

anyone know why when I delete mods the used space is still taken up. Also why certain mods keep reverting to "version 0"?

[stone birch]

Going to post all the creations im using but i dont know what causes this. (playing PC,steam)

[little hare]

Have you tried delete the Starfield shader cache and let the game rebuild it?

[dapper galleon]

Is sowmthig. Broken with the game currently, I have guns and suits not rendering right and Neon security is missing their lower body. I restarted and Haven't used any new mods, but I also haven't played in a long time. Everything is up to date in creations too

Inrealy.gope i don't have to NG plus again to.fix this this

I .ight just have to do that if that doesn't fix it I guess I'll just take another long breakmawaybfrom this game.

The unfortunate risk of playing with mods I guess

Also still have ing this issue why do I have to update my .kds everytime I start up starfeild

[grand zodiac]

the bug is that sarah morgan does not take any crew slot^^

that's why in vanilla game, you can add her to your crew even if it's 8/8

It was supposed to add a crew slot but instead, instead the effect is : Crew member with this skill don’t count towards Crew maximum.

The NPC from your mod has leadership 1, so it would not work, the effect comes from Leadership 2 probably (either that or unique to Sarah Morgan because she is the only one with Leadership 2 in the game)

You could try to give leadership 2 to your npc to fix it

[dapper galleon]

Ng+ reloading mods nothing works Sarah basically alloy has no head it's just lips and eyeballs, neon security is half gone

I don't have any new mods

Omg I have to update the mods again anytime I hard quit the gane I have to re update my mods

Im.so dang pse to u installing this thing lol

[supple nova]

Huh, I though Sarah's Leadership skill effect is that by increasing the crew limit by 1, she's effectively a free crew slot. Is that not the case? I remember that, on an 8-crew limit, the limit is increased to 9 with her on board

[grand zodiac]

well at launch it was supposed to do that

but in the end the effet is that she won't take a slot

due to a bug.
You can verify that everywhere, it's known since more or less day 1

You can check even now, limit will still be 8, but she'll join no matter what.
So you'll have 9 even if it says 8/8

But the result is the same i guess

That's why i told @dusky escarp that maybe the issue with his mod is that the crew member who joins after the quest has only leadership 1 and not 2.

[gentle solstice]

Are there any mods that add collectibles to the game? I remember having a gemstone collector mod that added coins and jewls to skyrim and I loved. I'm looking for something similar for starfield.

[sharp lynx]

I'm making something similar but not lol it's going to have collectables but not exactly those

[slim sun]

The Leadership perk for crew is just for the benefit of the player so it shows in the UI, it's actually the script Crew_LeadershipScript that's decreasing the CrewSlotCost. You can give any follower that, my Rosie mod has had it since we first got the CK.

[stone birch]

I do that from steam right? gonna give that a try

[timid temple]

Gonna honk my own beak a bit and point you at the rubber duckie mod I made: https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/cee76c92-4764-471e-959e-f0c83d9140b5/Duck_Hunt

[sharp lynx]

A great mod indeed

[grand zodiac]

That could also be an easy fix @dusky escarp .
Now the issue is that i believe that it's too late to recruit the companion from the mod once you left the place so it would require to let him stay there, or reddo a new game to make the fix effective anyway.

I understand that it was supposed to be a restriction on purpose, but since it did not work as intended first, maybe it could also be modified so people who already bought the mod could still enjoy this feature that was lost forever for them.
The companion could just stay there and wait.

[little hare]

No, SF shader cache is in C:\Users\<your_windows_user\AppData\Local\Starfield

The file is called "Pipeline.cache" delete that. when you start the game next time it will rebuild it

[normal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-milton-stephen-root-stapler-gif-3810312

[stone birch]

I deleted a folder in the steamapps that was name shader cache. There was no "Starfield" in my %appdata% only in steamapps

NVM found it, i think that did the trick! gonna have to play more late today but just loaded in and think it fixed all the blacked out textures, thanks!

[sharp lynx]

Just remember, sometimes, it's not a mod doing it lol

[normal steeple]

Sometimes it's the creatures bjork talked about

[boreal osprey]

I collected the coffee mugs, and now this will be a fine addition to my collection XD Just need a display stand like the FO 3 one for the bobbleheads

[grand zodiac]

I'm sorry but you're wrong here for many reasons:
1: Sarah Morgan has, and always had leadership 2 ^^
2: I have a 8/8 crew, +1 with Sarah Morgan (so 9)

If all slots are occupied, you can assign her to your crew, that's the thing with Sarah Morgan and it always had ^^

Have a good day !:)

[sharp lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/aba-aba-update-no-update-no-update-this-month-no-aba-update-gif-17856649846837073984

[jolly torrent]

Oh, please don’t fight!!

[thick plaza]

[sharp lynx]

I like turtles

@normal steeple listen all I'm saying is my staple guns better talk to me in wookiee

[gentle solstice]

Gonna take a look at it.

[jolly torrent]

I just saw this. Lol.

🎶 “If you ever get close to a human…and human behavior…” 🎶

[grand stream]

With ship weapons you can only connect them to certain collection points on a ship are there any mods that you can place a connection pice onto any point to allow it to be converted to a weapons connection point? Like a join connector?

[jagged forge]

@grand stream there's a part called an equipment plate (just a small square cover piece) made for this. no need for mods.

[grand stream]

Okay thank you!

[brazen socket]

This is amazingly creepy! (Owl Tech Clone Lab)

[jolly torrent]

This is what I need. More space horror!!!

[thick plaza]

gonna add a ton of spacesuits in by christmas

[young laurel]

Some of these might be worth adding as clothes with your own version of this https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12269?tab=description

[jolly torrent]

Please do.

[grand zodiac]

Will it be achievement friendly?
Just curious

[thick plaza]

unfortunately i have to be a verified creator to make my mods achievement friendly

[dusky escarp]

Actually, no, not quite. Sarah is a special case - she is the only vanilla NPC with the Crew_Leadership skill (which is a different thing from the Leadership skill that the player can take) and it's actually a dummy. You see in the game that she has it, but it doesn't do anything at all. Instead, she has a script attached that gives her a CrewSlotCost of zero, so the effect is the same (or should be); if you assign her to your crew, the count of remaining slots stays the same (because it's reduced by that zero cost) so you can still assign a full complement of others. Unfortunately, despite everything it says on the internet, in the current version of the game, there is a bug such that if you already have a full complement of crew, you can't assign her because it decides that your crew is full and fails to take into account that she doesn't need a slot. The workaround is to temporarily unassign a regular crew member, assign Sarah, then re-assign the regular one.

[grand zodiac]

Ok! Still looks cool

Well i personally confirm that everyone says on internet, in vanilla game, Sarah Morgan can be recruited even with a full crew.
But hey it's just my game, maybe if other people who play Vanilla could let us know about how it works for them it could help.
Everyone i've met said they could assign her no matter what.
But again i'm not a big mod player, i usually play Vanilla or with just achievements friendly mods so i don't have a lot things that conflict with each other so maybe that has a role in it.
edit: it was answered in https://discord.com/channels/784542837596225567/784546783602409543

[devout flame]

Getting a good start on my next Mod- Fortified

[jolly torrent]

@dusky escarp May I get a quick preview of what’s in store for us as far as your mods?

[normal steeple]

You're obviously great at the form structures, have you thought about learning to model your own content instead of building everything with ripped assets?

Would more than likely make VC immediately

Also if you're just doing modern military stuff; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz_VSbQEG_Y

ez pz

https://tenor.com/view/yes-evil-headnod-jack-nicholson-gif-8019533

[jolly torrent]

Lol

[thick plaza]

No

[normal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[thick plaza]

You should see my process, I kitbash a lot and heavily tweak the textures with topaz and substance painter

[normal steeple]

Yeah nice tweaks to make them work in CK for sure, the gun feel is great too but why not work on the potential for being the author of your own creations? I'm just thinking 5 years head type things here... Only as a fellow modder who loves to make custom stuff and want to see more folks create amazing things on the VC program 🍻

[thick plaza]

Well here’s the thing

I do a lot of things IRL and modeling is something I’m not gonna do

[normal steeple]

That's fair man!

thought about getting into game design stuff?

that's basically modding, tools/tech -> gameplay

[thick plaza]

A tiny bit, maybe in the future I’ll dabble more into it

[sharp lynx]

You should

[normal steeple]

Unreal engine for real

[sharp lynx]

As someone who started out porting I can tell you the absolute liberations of being able to make anything you need at anytime is beyond comparison and night and day vs spending hours looking for the bits and pieces

[thick plaza]

Yea modeling is cool kudos to those who can do that

[sharp lynx]

Every tree starts as a seed

At least you're in a place around the folks who have the know how to teach you should you choose to take that path one day ❤️

[normal steeple]

Aye for sure, I got resources out the wazoo. HMU whenever (I'll reply if I'm free )

[boreal osprey]

I concur with Malloy. Plasticity is the best place to start. I used Fusion 360 and Blender before. Now I do 95% of my modeling in Plasticity. Very easy to pickup.

The UV stuff is what I find harder to learn XD

[thick plaza]

I personally think animating is cool

Especially if we get those tools, I’ll redo my mods

[boreal osprey]

I'm trying to learn that too. Have a folder stock piled with weapon models that I need to animate

[dusky escarp]

In the fullness of time, when the omens are auspicious and the raven flies thrice around the sun, then shall it be made known. 😄

[harsh badge]

This group is so wholesome.

[devout flame]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ox7bZ95Z-PY?feature=share

[true valley]

For xbox series x starfield, are there any mods that allows you to change the color of your homes/outpost stuff?

[fierce ridge]

I can’t wait to see what you do with your mods when we get those animation tools!! Why can’t we just have them now 😂 I blame Todd! lol

[safe sorrel]

Not currently sadly

[true valley]

That stinks.

[timber umbra]

thank you

[brazen socket]

Fantastic work! The best! Thanks👍🏼

[crude valley]

Hey all, I'm new to here and Blender/Modding but I've made a mock-up of a helmet I'd love to have in starfield, It's in rough shape but nearly there. If there's anyone that'd be willing to have a chat about bringing it over or just some help with it I'd really appreciate it, Cheers!

*Also open for anyone with blender experience that could give me a hand with making it a bit better in blender feel free to DM

[sharp lynx]

Looks cool

if you have blender I can teach you how to do that yourself it's super easy

helmets are way easier to do than most things

[boreal osprey]

Looks like a kitbash of Revan's mask and Starkillers helmet. 👍

[crude valley]

Yeah you've got it spot on 😅

[boreal osprey]

I'd be interested in this 😅

[crude valley]

That'd be great thank you very much

[crude valley]

I've sent you a friend request for whenever you are available, thanks again

[sharp lynx]

I might as well explain here XD

[crude valley]

Yeah of course, even better

[sharp lynx]

well, maybe not it's a bit more in-depth but not really

for helmets in blender all you need to do is

Select this tab here, to the right. at the top where vertex groups is, click on the little + to the far right of that box, change the new group name to C_Head, then at the very top tabs select UV - Edit "My preference. " in the drop-down box at the top of the window with your model "while in edit mode (Press tab)" select weight paint. Make sure above strength at the top it says C_Head "paint the entire model red. "

there ya go, you've rigged your helmet, first step done

typing this out made me realise it's more complex than I think it might be to someone new XD

[crude valley]

That's okay i appreciate what you're doing anyway, and its a good starting point!

[sharp lynx]

exactly

now you can get the idea of where to go for weight painting

sometimes... you for get how much is involved after doing it for so long

reminds me I need to get back into outfit making too

[crude valley]

The only thing I've done previous that was similar to this was porting Blood dragon armour from Mass Effect into FO4, and even that took me a long time 😬

So starting from scratch again, but the process is fun!

[boreal osprey]

A proper space gun

[sharp lynx]

but that weapon appears to be made of metal not space???

[boreal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xiao-zhan-the-untamed-wei-wuxian-cute-adorable-gif-2513840214853403347

[sharp lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/c3po-star-wars-jawas-jawa-gif-9557861

[crude hare]

Anyone versed in quests willing/able to offer some advice? I cannot get my quest to start.
Start game enabled: check, quest type selected: check, location assigned: check, set state trigger setup to set initial stage: check. not sure what else I might be missing 😕

[sharp lynx]

did you complie your quest pex file into a ba2

[crude hare]

I was testing off the esp primarily. I have also tried packing to esm/ba2 but it was no different

[sharp lynx]

yea if you're using an esm it must be packed, if that's not the issue I'd recommend checking your trigger box I assume the trigger box is meant to trigger a setstage?

[crude hare]

yep. i used the defaultsetstagetrigger and set the quest and stage properties in the script.

[proud forum]

Enable papyrus logging in your custom Starfield ini and check the logs.

Also check “warn if alias does not fill” on the quest and make sure your aliases have filled so the quest starts.

Also make sure you’ve started the game. If you’re just coc’ing from the main menu, the game doesn’t know you want quests starting.

Check your plugin warnings as well.

[crude hare]

I'll check the logging. I've been starting at a save point outside the system and going in fresh each time. Where are the plugin warnings?

[proud forum]

Let me load the CK and double check. I have my warnings dialogue docked at the bottom so I can easily reference it. I think it’s View > Warnings.

[crude hare]

oh, that warnings box. it has been less than useful, lol. it often says to check the file, but I can't find that.

[proud forum]

Yes. In CK > View.
When you check the box to warn if alias is not filled, it will show up there

Check flag for Current Plugin. Everything else isn’t relevant

You can also double click anything there and it will pop up the window that is giving the warning if the CK allows the window to open. Story manager and planet manager won’t pop up and certain topic infos.

[grand stream]

Is this mod out? It looks epic!

[crude hare]

I will review all that after work and report back. Thanks for the info!

[wooden gull]

Im trying to play with the Stacked Female Outfits 2.0 mod but the arms of every female disappears.. Is that a problem with a conflicting mod, or maybe a load order issue?

[crude hare]

Nothing in the script log about my mod, and no warnings about the aliases. 😦

[crude hare]

Seriously though, if anyone can help me get this quest rolling it will be greatly appreciated. Feel free to DM me if you like.

[proud forum]

Given that we don’t know exactly what it is you’re trying to do, other than a quest not starting, there’s really not enough info to give specific assistance.

While they are different games, Seddon4494 and kinggath have some excellent quest making tutorials for fallout 4. Kinggath goes into detail with his deployable turrets quest demo, and Seddon shows various ways to start quests.

The dialogue interface is mostly the same between games. Key differences of course being no voice main character, statements dialogue advancing and questions dialogue looping, and how greetings are done. There’s other changes to the quest form that might tie into what you need but I’m not sure what you’re doing.

[crude hare]

At the moment, I just want the quest to actually run. It seems the game just isn't starting it at all. When checking SQV in game it shows as not enabled and dormant, even after hitting the start trigger point. I've done a few dialogues already and those all worked just fine. this is a pretty straightforward point a to b to c, etc. quest without any dialogue. I'll look for Seddons video, i think that's in my list already 🙂

[proud forum]

Hm. One thing to check also is if your trigger box is large enough and you’re actually hitting it and it isn’t being hit by anything else. I’m just getting up and haven’t looked at how the default script is set up. You might have to specify that it’s for player only.

[crude hare]

Oh it's big enough for sure 🙂 I tried checking that player only box as well and no dice. I switched to adding the setonlocation change script to the quest to try and start it that way, but that isn't working either.

[proud forum]

You also might have to start an all new game. If that is the case, review kinggath’s tutorial. It shows you how to set up for middle of the game updates and I think how to start quests after the game is already running since all persistent refs load when you first start the game.

When you force start via console, does it work?

If it isn’t working via force start, something’s hinky with your stages.

Add a debug script to the first stage to make sure. Debug.trace(self + “Start stage and whatever else you want to add.”)

Then check your log when you force that stage from console.

[crude hare]

Failed to start, check the warnings file.
any idea where that file is?

[proud forum]

Oof.
Should be printed to editorwarnings.txt but I’m not sure if you have to enable that with custom ck ini setting.

It’ll be in the Starfield folder where CK is located if anything is printed there

Search for “current”

Or QUST

Or the name of your ESM

My current project has this in the editor warnings (because I'm not done with the set up yet):

QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FEBirthday00' (01004CFA)    Alias 'SecurityGuard' 1 uses non-preceding alias 'SecurityDesk' 4. This alias cannot be filled.
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Alias 1 is non-optional and Forced to NONE. This quest cannot start.
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Warnings were encountered initializing alias 'Trigger' on quest 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B).
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Alias 6 is non-optional and Forced to NONE. This quest cannot start.
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Warnings were encountered initializing alias 'ProtestScene' on quest 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B).
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Alias 3 is non-optional and Forced to NONE. This quest cannot start.
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Warnings were encountered initializing alias 'Protester' on quest 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B).
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Alias 5 is non-optional and Forced to NONE. This quest cannot start.
QUESTS:    <CURRENT>         QUST 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B)    Warnings were encountered initializing alias 'Guard' on quest 'oltSF_FE_PRO01' (01004C1B).

So I know that my quest will not start.

[crude hare]

what do you actually put here? It does not like that statement. I haven't done any debug stuff yet.
“Start stage and whatever else you want to add.”

[proud forum]

lol set up your debug messages with whatever is necessary to give you the most information when looking at your log. I'm not you so I have no idea what your first stage is doing.

[crude hare]

I get that, but I have no idea what kind of things to even put in there along with self 🙂

[proud forum]

Mine usually just gives the stage number and what it's supposed to do like: debug.trace(self + "Festivals and Feasts Creation: Stage 10. Running Start up functions. ")

[crude hare]

Ok, so the stuff in quotes is just extra descriptive text?

[proud forum]

No. That's what will show up in the log.

Handy guide for what trace prints: https://falloutck.uesp.net/wiki/Trace_-_Debug

self will print the name of the papyrus script. Which is only helpful for locating it.

When you get a lot of debug stuff running, you'll want to be specific so you can keep up with the logs.

[crude hare]

nothing at all in the editorwarnings.txt when using startquest :/

[proud forum]

And you have the warnings flag checked on your quest? And checked on a fresh save that didn't have the quest or where your trigger was already loaded into memory?

It won't show up in warnings without that flag.

[crude hare]

I have several saves for testing that I do not overwrite, that way they never have anything from the mod I am testing when loaded. I did check the warnings on alias fill fail, yes.

[proud forum]

Your save is always overwritten on exit. Delete your exit save before re-entering the game.

[crude hare]

Alt+F4, no exit save and I never use the continue option

the save files i load from have not been modified in weeks

[crude hare]

I have not been able to get the wiki to load for a few weeks now. How did you get that link?

[proud forum]

Ah. Cool.
My only suggestion at this point is to create another quest from scratch. Two initial stages. One will run on start. The other will be the finish stage that the trigger script will look for being finished.

[crude hare]

need to try to sleep. will hack at this again later 🙂

[proud forum]

Review these and see if they are helpful:
https://youtu.be/OshPvYcmn5o?si=U_2XB0WFSKfMgDk7

https://youtu.be/He-rD_5MtaU?si=iKGSEiZ4FT5lRo47

Triggers are covered in the second one.

Have a good sleep.

[proud forum]

I somehow missed this question. Apologies.
That is the cloned wiki, the awesome people from the unofficial elder scrolls pages cloned. They cloned all the kits wikis.

[frozen fox]

@jolly torrent are you still seeking for someone to assist you on this project or you got a moder helping you help on it.

[brazen socket]

Yeah, take all Owl mods. All of them are a state of art. The best.

[jolly torrent]

Still seeking help on that.

[misty abyss]

You can close the game by using qqq in console which is the app terminating itself instead of windows forcing it.

[crude hare]

Are you able to access it currently? It will not load for me at all.

[proud forum]

It was working earlier but you can join their discord and see if there is an issue. It is fan-run and they are sometimes bombarded by bots.

[proud forum]

I’m not at home atm but looking at their technical stuff in their server, it appears their ISP is running maintenance. If you’re having difficulties connecting, let them know. There isn’t supposed to be any downtime.
Highly suggest joining their server to report the issue.

If it’s happening to you, it might be happening to someone else.

[crude hare]

do you happen to have a link? I cannot find their discord server.

[fierce ridge]

Does anyone know if the black stone dynamics EBR M14 mod is on Xbox?

[jolly torrent]

Which one was the clone one??

[plush elk]

Are these any mods that add more people wondering around doing task on planets?

[autumn idol]

so random encounters?

[proud forum]

I don’t think I’m allowed to. There are rules against promotion here. The link is on the main page of the primary wiki.

[proud forum]

Forgot to hit reply. See above

[plush elk]

Yeah, just not completely random tho.

[brazen socket]

Owl Tech Lets Work Habs. But I advise you to install the Owl Tech Ship Living too. Trust me, Owl concept art is the best of all mods imho.

[devout flame]

https://youtu.be/bwT3WEfrG08

[jolly torrent]

Where does that go on my load order?

[plush elk]

Looks epic!! Are you use it a UI mod for the outpost UI?

[devout flame]

Yeah, just got it, still getting usd to it, lol. StarUI Outpost is the name.

[mental estuary]

can't wait til we get an adoption mod. yes yes Cora is annoying but i want a family in one of the cycles

[brazen socket]

I put them in the up-middle level, below overhaul mods.

[jolly torrent]

Thanks bro bro

[boreal osprey]

I'm curious, how does copyright work when it comes to assets in mods? I know when it comes to BGS games people port all sorts of things from others games. Has there ever been issues with this when it comes to free mods?

[signal coral]

I have updated the mod to address the appearance issues for Sarah. If you are still interested in this mod, please let me know how it works for you.

[signal coral]

I'm no lawyer, but my limited understanding tells me there should be no issues as long as you aren't using it to make money.

But Ihave heard of instances where that doesn't apply. I think it really depends on the IP owner.

[boreal osprey]

Thanks. I wanted to use a base model AK + a bunch of parts from escape from tarkov. Just so I don't need to spend tons of time or money to make it. Hopefully Nikita doesn't witch hunt me lol

[dusky escarp]

It's a popular misconception that copyright only matters if you are making money. To upload even free mods to sites such as BethNet or Nexus at least, it's in the T&C that you have to either own the assets or have permission from the owner to publish them. If you don't it's up to the copyright owner to decide if you are worth suing. At least in the UK, there is even a low-cost system for suing for copyright infringement where small or zero amounts of money are involved so that's something to be aware of. It's best to get permission and if you can't, it's wiser not to upload at all.

[signal coral]

I learned something new today. 😄

[boreal osprey]

Makes sense. I guess other mods that use Tarkov assets are up because BSG doesn't know about them, or don't care 🤔

[subtle jungle]

Or the uploader got permission. We've seen it with FO4 and Volition. Giving permission to a mod author to use their works or assets as long as they state they didn't create or own the assets and give credit etc.

[oblique mantle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12744

[sharp lynx]

I did a thing

[cold slate]

🤯

[normal steeple]

is that some lo-fi zelda?! Amazing mod as always TG!

[sharp lynx]

Lo-fi Zelda always best

[misty geyser]

It's also worth noting that Bethesda themselves forbids porting assets from one of their own games into another. That used to be linked on their old forums but I have no idea where that policy is listed now.

[placid hedge]

I bought the new jars of life mod. Anyone know how to place it at an outpost? What category it is under???

[boreal osprey]

Huh. That's interesting considering that someone is charging credits for FO 3 weapon ports.

[misty geyser]

If that's for a VC, then it's probably safe to say Bethesda knows they did it and granted permission for the specific case.

[placid hedge]

I love it so much how do you place it in your outpost??

[normal steeple]

@boreal osprey they also remade the assets from scratch, the designs are slightly different in their own ways but it wasn't an asset rehash, form edit and send etc

frustrating I can't really talk about the VC channel but we see a lot of the WIP development and context goes a long way prior to forming an opinion. I think the main thing is, don't use assets that aren't yours and you should be good if you can prove you made it step by step? 🤔

(If juggling with existing IPs/assets)

Also, double check with BGS 😅

[sharp lotus]

I think the important part is, you have to make the assets yourself, that's the rule, like when remaking an older title into the newer game they can do that but can't just take whole assets

[placid hedge]

I'm guessing it must be perk restricted to place the biome?

[sharp lynx]

@placid hedge structures / at the bottom

[boreal osprey]

What's the consensus on using assets you bought on sites like Turbo squid or CG trader?

[sharp lynx]

If you're making free mods nothing, just check and see if they allow public use

Some are particular about their asset usage

[sharp lotus]

I only know the rule for bethesda specific assets

[sharp lynx]

The license should outline what's okay

For BGS they don't allow cross game asset ports

[boreal osprey]

Yeah, when buying other peoples work I always pay attention to the useage/licensing, I'm just wondering how it's looked at for modding. Paid or free.

[normal steeple]

I frown upon it as a 3D artist, I know what it's like to learn 3D and I imagine not every artist who put their assets up on a stock model website would have ever imagined their work being used to sell for 'unit sales'. That's just a personal take.

For modders who can't model their own content it's pretty great and useful for them to build bigger things. If asset packs are used for larger content experiences I think it's pretty amicable, trying to provide a player with an experience but not wanting to sit there and model shrubs etc..

but yeah imagine buying a model of a weapon, doing under a few hours work to convert it into a weapon form based mod, add it to some levelled listings and then ship it for 3-4 bucks after buying it for between $10-15 without the original artist having a clue.

Those sites are pretty clear that they're not for resale as assets but mods aren't categorized like that, so it's a loophole of sorts.

[sharp lynx]

As long as you're using it in a transformative way you should be fine

And provided the usage is allowed

[placid hedge]

I tried updating all my creations (I do achievement friendly only), and I still don't see it, but I'm trying to build on Pontem in the Wolf system which is considered an extreme atmosphere. Are there any restrictions to this? I'm really sorry to be a bother, this is the creation that got me right back into starfield and I'm just mega excited. lol Any ideas for me?

I have the perks to build an outpost on the planet (moon)

[sharp lynx]

nope

they should be there, right at the bottom of strcutures

I don't use UI mods so I'm unsure if those mess up orientation.

[placid hedge]

This all should be right! You know what, I'm going to try turning it on/off again 🤣 👌

[craggy wolf]

Yea. Just tested on my game an no missing head. The update is working for me.

[placid hedge]

No luck! I'm on Series X with everything up-to-date. I'm not sure! At any rate, I love this idea and I'll get it figured out eventually! Keep making stuff so I can buy it 🤣 🤘

[sharp lynx]

Yea there's something going on, on your end not sure what it is

I suggest trying to deactivate and maybe do a whole restart then turn it back on re-activate load a different save then load that save

I dunno I do know it was tested on both xboxs

is your player brand new?

[boreal osprey]

I'd imagine it's not an issue when they have "commercial use" under the licensing

[normal steeple]

Not a legal issue for now!

[placid hedge]

Level 74 player, I tried removing my account from the xbox and redownloading which triggers an entire reload of the data. That didn't work, I think I might try uninstalling/reinstalling starfield all together. Do you think I might need to NG+?

[sharp lynx]

It shouldn't require that.

[placid hedge]

I'll try to disable/re-enable the mod, then uninstall/reinstall starfield. I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about it!

[sharp lynx]

I mean it's important I'd prefer for these to work for everyone. This game has so many unknowns and everyone's game is so personalized it's impossible to tell what's going on.

[placid hedge]

I'll keep you posted if I find a solution 👍 🤝

[sharp lynx]

Okay, had someone test it out and it does indeed appear for them on Xbox

[tawdry sluice]

I didn't even know what I was savings those credits for until I saw your biom jars. 🙂

[sharp lynx]

pick a fav yet?

Mine is the random Christmas tree

cause why not

[jolly torrent]

I can tell you what’s going on in my game. Lol. Fake “Aliens” universe. Lol. I hope we can get androids that bleed white and Xenomorphs.

[sharp lynx]

[jolly torrent]

I’m also awaiting a “Hadley’s Hope” LV426 location, but that’s just me.

[steady willow]

Hi

[young laurel]

There's some good building pieces for that style in Shattered Space. Or at The Lock in vanilla, though those would need a recolor.

[steady willow]

No one found me any mods wow

[mental estuary]

so i just realized something. i'd been checking on tankgirl's galactic colonies expansion while using the building packs the whole time xD i've face palmed into the past and told myself when i bought them

now i just have find out what Kalthehuman (kat the human maybe) did with their Family Bound mod

[jolly torrent]

Lol. I hope a modder can hook it up. I know I can’t do that. Lol. Shoot, I’m trying to fight to get proper rank insignias in the game at this point. People would rather upload Star Wars stuff.

[tawdry sluice]

@sharp lynx Lord O Mercy, Tank Girl! How could I even pick one favorite? I've been playing with your biome for 2 and 1/2 hours and I've only gotten through 6 of them. This is just amazing.

[sharp lynx]

I love it 🤣❤️

I tried to make some of them feel impossible

[tawdry sluice]

You had me console coding swim suits at 12:30 AM, so yeah. I'm into it. 😎

[jolly torrent]

Love this picture, ngl.

[tawdry sluice]

Also, I like the "jar" shape a lot better than the giant vanilla greenhouse igloo. Nice design.

I'll put some more photos up in the outpost tomorrow. I didn't want to fill this stream with photos. I managed to place one of Miss O Play's new habs in one of the biomes. I'm going to decorate it up.

[thick plaza]

Updated the entire mod, more wearable exoskeletons as spacesuits and clothing options available

[solid meadow]

Ok so I just recently purchased Mass Effect Legendary Edition and hadn't played the games since the Xbox 360 days. I forgot how great they were and I was thinking "All this time I wanted a Star Wars Overhaul. Shoot I want a Mass Effect Overhaul" so I wanted to know if anyone had any Xbox mods they recommend to bring Mass Effect into Star Field please.

[crude valley]

You can get the Tempest from Andromeda and the Normandy also on nexus! A lot of the armors have been ported over also, not sure about weapons though 😬

[dawn sphinx]

Hello,
Do you know if there is a Warhammer 40k mod ?

[sharp lynx]

This one is my fav

[timid temple]

can you place other outpost structures inside?

[sharp lynx]

Depends on your game

Like my platforms in my last mod I could put buildings on it with 0 problems apparently not everyone can

[timid temple]

huh

something to play with tonight after work then, because I'd love to drop one of those crystal biomes and stick my house inside

[sharp lynx]

I was able to put my own houses from vol I in them

Note the internal foliage won't bulldoze

[timid temple]

hah, gotcha, so gotta find a nice empty space

[sharp lynx]

Luckily I left a lot of those in

My next next mod will compliment this as well

Like those two here I left an open field for those who might have some fancy smaller structures they can fit here

The areas are fitted for the vanilla habs but some of folks games I'm 100% sure won't allow them to place them there. For me I can with 0 issue I just have to raise it from the ground up

[sharp lynx]

It also comes with a random Christmas tree

[young laurel]

Is there something like, or a version of face ripper for SF? Going to redo my LO and start a new game, but I'd like to use this character again.

[rancid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-exotic-tiger-king-never-recover-financially-broke-gif-16765645

My wallet right now with all these outpost mods

[brazen socket]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-gif-18991101

[solid meadow]

Ok thank you.

[frosty rover]

Cant say this enough. Nj on the weight paint.

[thick plaza]

it was a nightmare lmfao

and thanks

[sharp lynx]

I bet the arms where fun lol

[thick plaza]

Not only that the entire outfit is split into six or seven mesh files and they were all broken up I had to fix all the vertices