maths

[pulsar star]

Can someone please help?

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#maths-discussion

[ivory fox]

sn

this is further gcse right?

[pulsar star]

No

[sudden cloud]

First draw a diagram

Like please draw a diagram

Include what is in the question, like the tangent and the point (7, -10)

Figure out the equation of tangent

[pulsar star]

<@&791435371564892232> someone please draw a diagram to show me please

[sudden cloud]

Omd

Why don’t you try first

[pulsar star]

I did, I’m stuck

[sudden cloud]

Give me a pic of your attempt

[sudden cloud]

It is fine

[pulsar star]

It’s messy and I don’t want to share

[sudden cloud]

Bro

Think it is for yourself

I am not going to judge you for your diagram

@pulsar star

[pulsar star]

It’s fine, it’s somewhere in the pile of rough paper

I can’t find it right now

[sudden cloud]

Ok draw one now

It would take a minute

[pulsar star]

Fine 👍

[pulsar star]

What does MES alumnus mean?

[sudden cloud]

It means I am a previous student of MES(completed one year)

I still am tho

[sudden cloud]

You done

?

Post it here

[pulsar star]

@near wagon help me here

[near wagon]

any ideas before we start?

[pulsar star]

No, not a clue

By the way, did you do A-level maths?

[near wagon]

I am currently doing a level maths and further maths

[pulsar star]

Okay 👍

How was GCSE maths?

[near wagon]

what could we first do?

to help give us a clear idea of what to do

[near wagon]

calm i jus should've revised more

[spice yarrow]

what did u get

[near wagon]

7

[pulsar star]

@near wagon are you still here?

[near wagon]

yh

[pulsar star]

Yeah, so did you get a grade 7?

[near wagon]

yh

[pulsar star]

That’s what I’m predicted

[near wagon]

coll

cool

[pulsar star]

Okay, let’s go back to the question

How would you do it?

[near wagon]

I would draw a picture first

and ask myself

what's different with this question than the previous one?

[pulsar star]

Hmm, are you able to draw it for me on paper?

Because I’m actually in bed right now for obvious reasons

[near wagon]

one sec

[pulsar star]

No problem

[near wagon]

@pulsar star

(7,-10) is on the circumference of the circle

so there's a tangent going on

and you can see where S and T will be

soooo

any ideas of what to do?

[pulsar star]

No, I actually don’t like maths

It’s so annoying

[near wagon]

think back to other questions in this style

what did we do for those?

[pulsar star]

We found the negative reciprocal

[near wagon]

sooooo

I wonder what we could do here...

👀

[pulsar star]

I’m here 😂

But I’m stuck

[near wagon]

just say that then

[near wagon]

find the gradient between (0,0) and (7,-10)

then, do the negative reciprocal of that gradient

then find the equation of the tangent

[pulsar star]

By the way, are there any other discord servers that are like this that you are aware of?

[near wagon]

not that I'm aware of

you'd have to do some research

[pulsar star]

I couldn’t find it

Where else do you mentor?

[near wagon]

nowhere

[pulsar star]

Okay back to question

Are you able to do screen recording and you can just speak everything and send it

[near wagon]

na bro

that's too much effort for doing this for free

i am not a mes mentor 😭😭

[pulsar star]

What’s an mes mentor

Are they here

[near wagon]

you need to get the role

separately

you have to contact them

[pulsar star]

But how do I speak to them

[near wagon]

contact them

on their website

[pulsar star]

No, I don’t want to be. Mentor

I want to receive the help

[near wagon]

yep

contact the.

them

on their website

[pulsar star]

Where

[near wagon]

on their website

[pulsar star]

Send URL

[near wagon]

just type in

myedspace

in google

it's literally right there

[pulsar star]

Ah you have to pay?

[near wagon]

yes?

what we do here is just offer free mentoring to people

[pulsar star]

Yes because sharing is caring

[near wagon]

we answer questions

r we gonna do ur q or not

cus I gave u some steps to help you

[pulsar star]

What would the next steps be?

[near wagon]

@pulsar star

see these steps

you gotta think

of what to do

[pulsar star]

@dawn torrent

You there?

[near wagon]

????

😭😭

[pulsar star]

Pogs a nice guy

[near wagon]

bro im literally here

but er

cool

[pulsar star]

Yeah you and pog can help

[near wagon]

pog ain't gonna respond to u

[pulsar star]

2 better than 1

[pulsar star]

Why not

[near wagon]

but I know how to do the question in it's entirety

why would I need another person saying the exact same things as me

[near wagon]

cus he don't reply to ppl

[pulsar star]

What does he do?

[near wagon]

he's a staff member

an admin

[dawn torrent]

Who doesn't reply?

[near wagon]

ofc u do now

😭😭

ffs

[pulsar star]

Haha 😂

[near wagon]

r we doing this q or not

[pulsar star]

Pog, is it okay if you and tom help Me out? @dawn torrent

I like it when it’s group

[near wagon]

💀

[pulsar star]

Pog?

[dawn torrent]

Sure

[pulsar star]

Thanks bro!!!!

Tom, are you ready?

[near wagon]

i am

[pulsar star]

Let’s do this!!!!! 😀

[near wagon]

find the gradient between (0,0) and (7,-10)

[pulsar star]

Why?

[near wagon]

allows us to find the gradient of the tangent

since it'll be perpendicular

[dawn torrent]

It's not centered at the origin?

[pulsar star]

Yeah exactly pog

[near wagon]

(-4,1)

it's cus i did a q before with it at 0,0

smh

between (-4,1) and (7,-10)

there u go

[pulsar star]

I don’t get it

[near wagon]

circle equation (x-a)²+(y-b)²=r² has centre (a,b)

x²+y²=r² is a form of this with (a,b) being (0,0)

[pulsar star]

@dawn torrent is this in gcse?

[near wagon]

by finding this gradient it can allow us to find the perpendicular gradient, which is the gradient of the tangent

[near wagon]

yes

[dawn torrent]

Yeah

[pulsar star]

Hmm, we were told it got removed

I’m still a bit confused

[near wagon]

what with

[pulsar star]

This

[near wagon]

what doesn't make sense

[pulsar star]

Like the logic

[near wagon]

this is just the general form of a circle equation

[pulsar star]

Maths is boring

[near wagon]

like how you'd present it algebraically

[pulsar star]

Guys what would you do after getting coordinates

[near wagon]

draw some more lines on

then find the area needed

[pulsar star]

???

Don’t understand

[near wagon]

I'd label S

and T

then find area OST w 1/2bh since its a triangle

[pulsar star]

Please draw it

Or ask @dawn torrent

[near wagon]

find S and T first then

[pulsar star]

Pog, did you get a 9 in maths at GCSE

[dawn torrent]

Mhm

[pulsar star]

It’s fine if not

8?

@dawn torrent 7?

[dawn torrent]

9

[pulsar star]

What was your exam board?

[dawn torrent]

Aqa

[pulsar star]

Still so good

I need a 9 too

[near wagon]

👍