#Year 12 Binomials
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markscheme
how is the coefficient of x^5 = -45/16
i thought it was -9/16
cuz that's what i got
ok so
you found the x^5 term of the
(3 - 1/2 x)^6 thing
right
thats what you just worked out
@ember kraken
but you want the x^5 term of the whole thing
huh
(5 + 8x^2)(3 - 1/2 x)^6
yeah
you want the x^5 term of that
so after you do stuff with the expanding on the ^6 bit
you need to times it by (5 + 8x^2)
right?
yeah
which will change it
oh i thought we also had to find the x^2 coefficient sub it into 8x^2
but what do i do with the x^2
so after timesing by (5 + 8x^2)
what abt x^2 cuz we need to get rid of that dont we
-9/16 x^5 (5 + 8x^2) will be
-9/16 * 5 * x^5 - 9/16 * 8 * x^2 * x^5
do you see how i expanded that
no what
the -9/16 x^5 term from your (3 - 1/2 x)^6 gets -9/16 x^5
and then after you times that by (5 + 8x^2)
i have no clue what u just did after that
yeah i get u now
so do you see that
the red term will stay as x^5
all good
but the green term has x^5 times x^2 in it
yeah so is that gonna be x^7
exactly
so the red one is the only one that matters
BUT
theres another term we care about
so for every power of x you multiply with this bracket
the red term will keep it the same
the green term will basically
what
so do we ignore the green
i dont know
-2
what power of x would multiply with x^2 to give x^5
the green one would be x^5 now right?
yeah x^3 times x^2 is x^5
yeah
wheres this x^3 and x^2 stuff all coming from ๐ญ
why so many things to do for 5 marks
girl i am lost ๐ญ
so you have already found the x^5 term from (3 - 1/2 x)^6 right
only bit i know is the expanding of -9/16 (5+8x^2)
its -9/16 x^5
and when we multiplied this by (5 + 8x^2)
we found that the times by 5
yeah that
keeps it as an x^5 thing right
ik that green thing
then the 8x^2 times the x^3 would give you another x^5
idk what to after the green thing and why
right?
yeah
yeah
why
because x^3 times x^2 is x^5
x^3 is in the x^3 term of (3 - 1/2 x)^6 because its just what it is
x^2 is in 8x^2
yeah so what do i do
from here
how come we're ignoring the x^7 bit
is there any other way of working around it because im still not understanding it
im still not getting it
i still do not understand any of it
like
nothings going in
actually what im gonna do is
and i fumbled my maths mock and i need to reteach myself AS level maths again for my resit in september
and i need to teach myself A2 aswell cuz ik we're not gonna have enough time to fully complete A2
but i've already got the terms from (3-0.5x)^6
yeah but not all simplified
which is the issue
so im gonna do a slightly different but basically the same question
which is
find the x^5 term for (5 + 8x^2)(1+x)^6
that is why im doing this adapted simpler one
so i dont have to deal with the shitty coefficients
so
x^5 term in (5 + 8x^2)(1 + x)^6
and im just gonna give you for free that
(1 + x)^6 is:
x^6 + 6x^5 + 15x^4 + 20x^3 + 15x^2 + 6x + 1
ok?
thats 30x^5 + 48x^7
ok nice
thats what we get
now im gonna pick a different term
like eg the 15x^4 bit
15 x^4 (5 + 8x^2)
thats gonna be what like
75x^4 + 120 x^6
smth like that
notice how theres the first bit
which is the same power as the thing you timesed by originally
like for yours it was an x^5
mine its an x^4
yeap?
cuz times by 5 doesnt change the power of x
@ember kraken
hang on let me read this
yep calm
yeah
the term after it the power is increased by 2, for yours its the x^7 and for mine its the x^6
so i will say that
there is a term in this
where the second thing after multiplying by (5 + 8x^2)
is an x^5
which one
x^3
yeah
so in our whole expansion
we will get the 30x^5 from your thing here
with the 6x^5 thing
but also the 160x^5 from here
using the 20x^3 term
does that make sense?
so all together we will have 160x^5 AND 30x^5
what
im confused now
like
really confused
like we're back to square 1 confused
so you said that
if you multiplied that whole
x^6 + 6x^5 + 15x^4 + 20x^3 + 15x^2 + 6x + 1 mess
by the (5 + 8x^2)
if you use the 6x^5 term youll get a 30x^5
because 6x^5 (5 + 8x^2 ) is 30x^5 + 48x^7
yeah
theres the 30x^5 in there
i dont get the 48x^7 bit
so why cant we just ignore it
the 48x^7 is stuff we get from multiplying out the bracket
well i am ignoring it
but im explaining where the 30x^5 comes from
it comes from expanding that
and then we throw away the 48x^7 because its not important
yeah so from the exam question cant we just ignore -9/2x^7
if you times the (5 + 8x^2) by the 20x^3 term
the ramble was about how to find the 30x^5
but if i just said 6x^5 (5 + 8x^2) gives 30x^5 youd have got confused again
doesnt it just come from 6x^5 * 5
yeah but
we also said that if you use the 20x^3
yeah but youll see
cuz you havent actually worked out the term for this next bit in your question
and im too lazy to find it myself
so i used a different bracket
whats a term for the next bit
this is what im trying to explain
as i said
we also said if we multiply the (5 + 8x^2) by the 20x^3 term
you get 100x^3 + 160x^5
as you can see
another x^5 term right
because x^3 times x^2 is x^5
how come we cant just ignore the -9/2x^7
if i just said we get 160x^5 from the x^3 term and 30x^5 from the x^5 term
youd have no idea what the fuck i mean
if this came up on my mock i would've ignored the x^7 bit
are you happy with that
with the 20x^3 term
we get 160x^5
and with the 6x^5 term we get 30x^5
no
why not
im sorry but where did 20 and 160 bits come from
20x^3 from here
are we using the (3-0/5x)^6 terms
no
yeah but you havent done the working for the bit im trying to explain
im so confused
we are currently doing the question
find the x^5 term from (5 + 8x^2)(1+x)^6
im giving the freebie that
(1+x)^6 is
x^6 + 6x^5 + 15x^4 + 20x^3 + 15x^2 + 6x + 1
cool?
6x^5
30x^5 and
and a thing we dont care about
so we completely discard 48x^7?
youll see
from the middle of x^6 + 6x^5 + 15x^4 + 20x^3 + 15x^2 + 6x + 1
160x^5
because the x^2 from the 8x^2 with the x^3 from the 20x^3
gives you an x^5
and the question wants us to find x^5 terms
right?
we use 20x^3 because it gives us an x^5 term which we want
all the other terms dont give us x^5
yeah i get that bit now
ok so
what do i do now
i've never seen a question like this before and this question is on a past paper
yeah
3
nope
you have 160x^5 and 30x^5
yeah
nah cuz the 6x^5 is from before exapdning
6x^5 and 20x^5
we want after expanding
yeah
but they give you 190x^5
cuz your question is the exact same with worse numbers
fair enough we will just do your question anyway
so (5 + 8x^2)(3 - 1/2 x)^6
find the x^5 term
right
yeah
ok so you did part of it
thats from the -9/16 x^5 out of the (3 - 1/2 x)^6 right
so similar to our last question
yeah
which is -45/2 x^3
yeah nws
im gonna quickly
so according to online calculator its -135/2 x^3
but thatll give you
hang on let me redo it again
not -45/2 x^3
yeah i got it now
ok cool
then if you do the (5 + 8x^2) times that
you get this
just to save you working
yeah
wait wait wait
yeah both should be negative
then we just combine negative 540 and -45/16
errrr ill have a quick search
cuz the ones in the book only ask for finding the coefficients
but the idea is you need to
find which terms give the right power
when you times by your extra bracket
huh
ye i've just printed it off now
for this type of question
do u only need to know what method to carry out
and not the why bits
i got an E in my AS-level maths mock
could've been a D instead
idk how i fumbled it so badly though
cuz my tests throughout the year was fine
cant find many others
do u reckon i can get a B in the end
you are completely fucked
oh
yeah i reckon you can get a B
cuz i need a B
just practice
idk how the logic works though
i got an A in my physics mock
and an E in my maths
idk how that works or correlates
idk either
All this for a binomial question rip
girl idk either
im trying rn to make sure i understand everything in AS
then ill do past paper at home
then ill see if im capable of moving onto A2
and i need to go over stats and mechanics too
cuz i got 15/60 on that
28/100 on pure
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