dire smelt
7800x3d
7900xtx
1 tb 980 pro (os)
2tb 980 pro
pure power 12m 1000 watt
x670e tomahawk
2x16gb trident neo z5 6000mt cl30
win 11 24h2
Weird boot behavior, worked fine last night but didn’t wanna boot just now and was hanging on dram and cpu light. Power cycled, took 5 minutes to boot with memory context restore now SUPER slow extraction speeds
@hallow kestrel
Temps are good, no overheating, normal resource usage
I have no idea wtf is happening
hallow kestrel
out of my ballpark cus i have zero experience with am5 other than memory training taking forever
dire smelt
It’s usually a 10 second or less boot
hallow kestrel
you can try with one stick and that shpiel
dire smelt
I have mem context restore on
amber lava
first step, check windows update to see if you had an update overnight, heh
dire smelt
It definitely shouldn’t as I fully powered off the system
amber lava
even though that shouldnt affect the boot time
dire smelt
I don’t know if this could be related but
Before I turned it off last night, had a gpu drivsr timeout
Never booted after just went to bed, now this
But I don’t see how that could cause this
amber lava
next question, do you have more than 1 drive?
dire smelt
Yes
amber lava
do you see the same speed issue on all drives?
dire smelt
Os is on my 1tb, only games and mods on the 2tb
dire smelt
do you see the same speed issue on all drives?
Don’t know about the 2tb drive
amber lava
would try that same extraction on both drives
dire smelt
I will
amber lava
also would do an sfc /scannow
dire smelt
that’s cmd right?
amber lava
ya, admin terminal
amber lava
ya, but regular cmd doesnt get admin rights
dire smelt
running
will do the extraction nextp
all good there
Yeah both drives doing it
I can usually extract cinebench in seconds flat
amber lava
ok, next would probably see if you are getting memory errors. have you ever used prime95?
dire smelt
No but I can check on samsung magician or crystal disk right?
I checked both on magician like a week ago
amber lava
crystal disk will show you drive speed itself. would be good to verify, but i meant actual memory errors
dire smelt
gotcha I’ll download prime
amber lava
its a tiny program, easy to use
dire smelt
but yeah this drive behavior is weird af
drive 1 and drive 2 respectively
It’s usually done in seconds
uh
which test chaos
amber lava
large fft
some people run this for a long time, but you should know within a couple minutes if you are getting errors
dire smelt
gotcha
amber lava
that will slow your system down a lot by the way while it is running
dire smelt
yeah I wasn’t planning on doing anything on it in the meantime
amber lava
i think it will ding at you if it gets an error. but it will also display it
when you want to stop the test, just hit escape and ok
amber lava
ok, most likely fine there then
dire smelt
Then wtf happened…
amber lava
that test helps to see if you are getting cpu memory controller errors or actual memory errors, without having to run a full out memtest for hours
sharp nimbus
We’ve tried just restarting right?
dire smelt
even if mem context restore turned itself off it wouldnt have taken THIS long
dire smelt
We’ve tried just restarting right?
yes
restart and two power cycles were what were required
Just to get it to boot
And by restart I just mean shut down aftee a failed boot and light hangs
sharp nimbus
Do you have hwinfo or cpuz?
sharp nimbus
FCLK = memory speed/2?
sharp nimbus
One of the items in HWINFO should be fabric clock
sharp nimbus
Is your memory 4000?
amber lava
my fclk is 2000
dire smelt
Voltages are above my pay grade
sharp nimbus
Oh must be different between 4 and 5 then, scratch that
amber lava
you probably mean memory clock
sharp nimbus
Cause on Ryzen 5000, FCLK 2000 for DDR4 4000
dire smelt
I’m gonna go look in bios real quick
sharp nimbus
That’s a good idea too
This stuff is too complicated why can’t we all just go back to writing data on paper
dire smelt
Expo is on and mem context restore is on still
Anything else to look for?
It booted quick this time at least
amber lava
ifyou havent changed anything, no
dire smelt
I havent
sharp nimbus
Yeah should be good to give it a whirl lol
You can also see your voltage rails, if they’re lower than expected that could indicate a loose 24 pin
Like I had my 12v reporting 11.1, wiggled cable and it went back to 11.94
dire smelt
I have no idea what to do with voltages
dire smelt
You can also see your voltage rails, if they’re lower than expected that could i...
hwinfo on mobo was sayin 11.9
dire smelt
Lol well im glad I went in anyways
fans were set to dc and not pwm
however
for some reason no rpm listed on pump…
ah that would be a wiring thing
But still confused about the boot and drive speeds
any other ideas?
dire smelt
@sharp nimbus is it normal for 12v voltage on the mobo to drop a little occasionally?
It was at 12 when gaming but I pulled a youtube video and it dropped
sharp nimbus
<@612543728833396737> is it normal for 12v voltage on the mobo to drop a little ...
It’s not the worst thing, usually a sign that your PSU is bad but it’s probably fine
You can always wiggle the 24 pin
dire smelt
It’s not the worst thing, usually a sign that your PSU is bad but it’s probably ...
If that’s the case and wiggling don’t do anything, how could I actually test that
sharp nimbus
If that’s the case and wiggling don’t do anything, how could I actually test tha...
Unrelated to your actual problem, but you would use a power supply tester and a multimeter. DONT DO THIS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING. It probably won’t kill you but it won’t be pleasant if you mess it up, and it will probably destroy your PSU
Also try reseating the drive, the CPU, and the RAM see if any of that helps
Such a weird problem I’m surprised chaos and Markus’ tips didn’t work
dire smelt
gotcha
it gasnt happened again but yet but i will do all that when my new drive comes in anyway
sharp nimbus
There’s also a chance that it literally just got stuck on that one file because the file was messed up
dire smelt
sfc was fine though
sharp nimbus
Happens sometimes to me, and I just reinstall the zip
dire smelt
yeah but the boot time issue and it doing twice on two different drives?
sharp nimbus
If there is no built in integrity check on the file, sfc can’t check integrity, so it’s not perfect for non os files
dire smelt
maybe but i redownloaded it so idk
it was just cinebech file lol
the boot issue still makes no sense
sharp nimbus
yeah but the boot time issue and it doing twice on two different drives?
That part is sus for sure, and I can’t tell you any more than chaos and Markus did about those, I’m just brainstorming for one issue at a time lol
dire smelt
yea i gotcha
i did however figure out my fans were on dc and not pwm….
guess i forgot to switvh it when i swapped mobos lol
sharp nimbus
I’ll keep thinking about it and will drop a message if i think of anything, but so far other than what’s been said I got nothing
dire smelt
@sharp nimbus with a game open. This bad?
Could this possibly lead to driver crashes if the 12V rail voltage drops just a bit too much?
it’s floating between the .6 and .9
ooo now 11.568…
sharp nimbus
I doubt it, looks fine to me
Bigger issue is if it’s consistently low like 11.3, fluctuations are to be expected
dire smelt
gotcha
dire smelt
Ok well I’m having stutters in no man’s sky and the voltage is 11.5-11.6
abstract bough
how old are your SSD drives. They maybe starting to fail. Use something like CrystalDiskInfo to check your read/write health
dire smelt
how old are your SSD drives. They maybe starting to fail. Use something like Cr...
6 months
it’s not that
I’ve also tested that with samsung magician anyways
pure flame
Did you update your amd drivers like within the last few days?
dire smelt
Yeah