what cpu is it paired with and what test did you use?
#MSI Gaming x Trio 4090 underperforming
vague obsidian
toxic nebula
i7-12700k and just a userbenchmark, dont have any of the 3dmarks atm
even in the games i play im getting very similar fps etc
dawn lark
You can download 3d mark demo steam to run time spy for free
toxic nebula
You can download 3d mark demo steam to run time spy for free
i just got 3dmark for 6 dollars
im getting good scores but in games i seem to not be seeing improvements
but scores are eh
past patrol
CPU bottleneck
toxic nebula
CPU bottleneck
hmm, you think? ive asked friends and they seemed to think it would be sufficient, should i upgrade my cpu?
past patrol
No you shouldn’t
Wait until the Ryzen 8000 or 14th gen
But no it’s not sufficient. Everything bottlenecks the 4090 right now really. I have a 13600k and there’s definitely a lot of situations where I could have significantly better performance with a better CPU
What power supply as well? And are you using a native cable or the adapter?
toxic nebula
What power supply as well? And are you using a native cable or the adapter?
i have a corsair RM1000e 1000w
using the dongle and 3 seperate pcie cables
past patrol
i have a corsair RM1000e 1000w
Then it’s likely a cpu bottleneck
You can run hwinfo while gaming and see what your usage looks like
vital haven
Your card isn't underperforming...
Based on 3dmark
Like what do you mean? You don't need to "upgrade" from a 12700k...that's fucking ridiculous
This is what I hate about this 
I don't even wanna start lmao...hearing that just pisses me off
"Yeah...go spend another 500 dollars to make sure your 1600 dollar GPU performs as it should"....no....first there's nothing even wrong with it from what I see. You need to include more data
toxic nebula
You can run hwinfo while gaming and see what your usage looks like
only using 34% gpu on average while playing
vital haven
Alright ignore what I said
toxic nebula
"Yeah...go spend another 500 dollars to make sure your 1600 dollar GPU performs ...
why not offer help instead of commenting like this. All you had to say was, i dont think its underperforming and may i see some more data
vital haven
I did offer help
toxic nebula
I did offer help
where
toxic nebula
And I'm pissed off that someone would even be led to think that
you didnt offer at all, you talked down to me like im an idiot, but alright man
vital haven
Talked down to you?
No, you just misunderstood me
I deal with this issue constantly
toxic nebula
then why not just help instead of 10 lines of nothing but complaining about what im asking about
vital haven
I'm upset that people would tell someone else that they need to upgrade from a perfectly fine CPU...for problems that don't exist
toxic nebula
so it wasnt towards me?
vital haven
I literally said
"There is nothing wrong with your GPU' first line
Idk what you want bro.
Average port royal score for 4090 is 26k...that's being skewed by the top 100 results in the world being xOCers pushing the shit out of their card...your card is performing perfectly average...unless you can show some more data showing weird performance/behavior...that's all I really have.
toxic nebula
I literally said
no think i was just not understanding tbh, honest question here, im only using like i said around 30% of my gpu power while gaming
vital haven
Are you in 1080p?
toxic nebula
no 1440p
vital haven
What titles? Or every title?
toxic nebula
seeing around same results in game as a 4080 fe i was using while waiting for the 4090
the two games ive launched to test today were "squad" and "warzone"
vital haven
Do you still have the 4080? Only way to tell is to actually run tests...4090 is likely just bottlenecked at 1440p and there isn't much you can do about it.
On average 4090 only does about 10% better. @ 1440p
toxic nebula
Do you still have the 4080? Only way to tell is to actually run tests...4090 is ...
im assuming i may just be bottlenecked by the 1440p ran a benchmark in game on the warzone title and it showed a 96% cpu bottle
vital haven
So if you're seeing 60 fps with a 4080 you'll see 66 with a 4090 - very rough generality
vital haven
im assuming i may just be bottlenecked by the 1440p ran a benchmark in game on t...
Even if you were to go and drop 500 on a new CPU...the performance wouldn't be that much better honestly...4090 really is just overkill
toxic nebula
alright makes sense, would upgrading to a 4k monitor to get more out of it make sense?
vital haven
Yes, absolutely.
You'd at least get some sort of graphical fidelity boost out of your money rather than 10% fps that isn't really needed
Never trust a single source* check multiple sources/multiple titles
But as you can see...even a 13900k only sees about ~10-15% difference between them at all*
toxic nebula
Yes, absolutely.
have any honest reviews on some 4k monitors, ive looked into some but never went above 2k
toxic nebula
But as you can see...even a 13900k only sees about ~10-15% difference between th...
true
vital haven
have any honest reviews on some 4k monitors, ive looked into some but never went...
I'm not huge on peripherals, but when I look I normally go to HardwareUnboxed or
trying to remember the other
toxic nebula
I'm not huge on peripherals, but when I look I normally go to HardwareUnboxed or
got it, ill look into them
past patrol
have any honest reviews on some 4k monitors, ive looked into some but never went...
I run my 4090 on a 1440p monitor
Usually I hit 100% usage with my 13600k. But it depends on the game
There’s definitely some games that are way more CPU limited. But they aren’t games that have any issues actually running at the framerate I want
vital haven
got it, ill look into them
Bitwit and a couple others I used to watch, but not sure about now.
past patrol
1440p not 4k sorry
Warzone is also kind of a weird game
It’s very engine limited rather than really hardware performance. Which is weird for a competitive game but so be it
toxic nebula
true imma try a couple games in my library and see what it is for those aswell