i mean it's up to you
#OS Dating Sim: Heart Strikers!
wheat river
river wave
this is a lot of work to take on but your demo is super promising already
merry sail
i think it's just a question of finding a musician for all of em lol
wheat river
i don't think it would affect the writers, just mainly the person(s) making all da music
though to be fair, you kinda got themes for everyone already so the hard part is done, just need to make it more vn suitable
wheat river
scene: x and kai are sitting in a cozy coffee shop
x's theme starts playing
merry sail
it's down to how much you wanna do . there's enough stuff out there that i'm sure it's possible to get by
river wave
I do think something softer for specific emotional moments would be ideal though, it'd get stale quick otherwise, but I'm sure that's fairly common sense
the game length is a factor too
wheat river
you could do that but that might be a bit more work
river wave
yeah that's the thing
wheat river
like, it might be better to make tracks that are less noticeable
merry sail
don't worry about it man
wheat river
but if you listen you can hear their themes
merry sail
do what bits you wanna do
velvet sundial
though to be fair, you kinda got themes for everyone already so the hard part is...
I will try for sure
wheat river
probably low priority tho
velvet sundial
also will there be even a lil voice acting? (Basing on the summer vn)
velvet sundial
probably low priority tho
okk
river wave
probably low priority tho
yeah at least until the writing is done
as for VNs tbh I doubt it
velvet sundial
probably low priority tho
I’ll try to focus on the main track(s) for now
wheat river
voice acting highly unlikely
dawn vault
i feel like if you really wanted to do individual tracks for specific characters then you could do more low-key remixes like the summer vn does. but that's up to how much work you wanna do
wheat river
ye
mainly right now we want to get scripts written for as many paths as possible, or maybe focus on a few at a time
dawn vault
the voices thing could be done thr exact same way the summer vn one does in reusing existing voice clips. but i also think that extra effort aside it might make it a little sillier and harder to be invested in lol
i definitely agree that writing should be the first priority because that's like. that's 90% of the game right there
river wave
yeah
Again I think in order to do that we really need to nail the timeline and base plot
velvet sundial
i feel like if you really wanted to do individual tracks for specific characters...
That’s a brilliant idea
dawn vault
Again I think in order to do that we really need to nail the timeline and base p...
agreed
i like the idea of there being a festival in the general timeframe of the game, it allows for an easy setting for several routes that we can reuse backgrounds for
river wave
Again I think in order to do that we really need to nail the timeline and base p...
because writers can then cook their routes accordingly, many are working in teams already so once we get the base plot figured out it'll go quickly
dawn vault
not that every route has to include it. but it does make it easy
in case ideas are short
dawn vault
i also liked the idea of it being like. off season. so nobody has to worry about writing actual corestrike matches unless you're really into fight rp or something and have experience writing detailed action scenes
wheat river
Again I think in order to do that we really need to nail the timeline and base p...
well so far nobody has argued against autumn festival before a season
dawn vault
matches optional but not required
river wave
i also liked the idea of it being like. off season. so nobody has to worry about...
heck no LOL not for me
I mean the fight rps LMAO sorry
dawn vault
i could do it if i really tried. but it would be boring as hell to write actually. maybe cool to read but it'd take up a lot of screentime and should probably only be done if it furthers another plot point lol
river wave
well so far nobody has argued against autumn festival before a season
autumn my fave fr but tbh I think keeping it as summer is the safer option, this might sound like a nitpick but lemme explain
wheat river
sobbing in the club /j
velvet sundial
I tought this could be a nice character menu music, but maybe it is too loud.
toughts?
wheat river
hmmmm i personally find it a bit too generic sounding
river wave
autumn my fave fr but tbh I think keeping it as summer is the safer option, this...
spring/summer vibes are the most utilized because a lot of the things in them are pretty multi season, and plots taking place in them are considered less wacky when released in fall/winter, rather than a spooky season story released in let's say April. A lot of typical "autumn" stuff is pretty much locked to autumn months so in a way it's a little too specialized even if the vibe would be POPPIN. Also based on maps from both s1 and s2 corestrike pro leagues are more likely to take place in the summer
wheat river
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
velvet sundial
hmmmm i personally find it a bit too generic sounding
what could I do?
river wave
like idk but here any fall festival is like exclusively fall/spooky themed meanwhile a summer one is more generic sure but it's a nice callback to the genre
wheat river
i mean we dont need to be using autumn as like a theme or anything focusing on it, just that's the time it happens to be
i do see what you mean tho
wheat river
also for the theme i think the piano is making it feel too generic
dawn vault
sports seasons. typically start. in real life.
wheat river
all over the place i think
but since corestrike is similar to hockey and soccer
could be around there
river wave
yeah but like the big BIG events are summer
dawn vault
despite being a fan of anime air hockey i don't know jack of shit about sports LOL
wheat river
well how big is this event then
river wave
that's what I was wondering 
wheat river
it's just like a wittle festival and dance
velvet sundial
also for the theme i think the piano is making it feel too generic
What about guitar, saxophone or techno?
wheat river
saxophone might be a bit too romantic :v i think guitar fits omega strikers the best
river wave
idk tbh I'm not into irl sports like football or whatever but realistically in OS I doubt big sports take place during back to school season, midterms (October/November) and so on
river wave
if people disagree it's ok that's just my take
dawn vault
well given that they allow children in that's actually not a bad point
river wave
I'll go with whatever everyone is cool with but logically that's my conclusion based on what I see irl
wheat river
consider rule of cool
dawn vault
and given that some people are playing exclusively for money they can't all afford like a credit based system or anything
merry sail
tbh iu think we should just go with the aesthetic that's nicest
there's themeing to take into account
wheat river
imo aesthetic outweighs being realistic
especially with something less serious like this
merry sail
autumn festivals are usually about "the harvest" and such
river wave
😔
wheat river
im sorry i change my mind your idea is good dont be sad
merry sail
love a good harvest festival
dawn vault
i think betwen the two i'd either want spring for new beginnings or fall for appreciating what you've gained this year. ya feel
why did i say two
i got distracted
between all the seasons
jesus
wheat river
im up for anything i just like autumn vibes the best
dawn vault
i was gonna say though summer's already being done right now and winter is like. it's good for specific scenarios but we are being a little general with our routes
wheat river
and i think it is underappreciated
merry sail
winter celebrations are usually about family ... so probably not the biggest thing in the owrld
fathom skiff
Winter theme would automatically b associated with christmas
wheat river
maybe
wheat river
spring break
merry sail
i do n't think that coutns as a festival
wheat river
easter isnt a festival
fathom skiff
This isnt dating sim but since it will b abt relationships id count valentines as spring
Like it aint festival either but
Its smthn
wheat river
we can also just make up a festival
merry sail
easter can be a festival ithink... like a big egg hunt... the classique
wheat river
like thats kinda what i was imagining anyways
fathom skiff
Prolly theres sakura festivals in spring but thats p region specific
merry sail
this really resonates with my town
fathom skiff
But also in oni vilage it looks like theres sakura trees so can still fit
dawn vault
ahten is pretty multicultural as a whole it seems so whatever works i think
merry sail
yeah
i guess there's also the basic fact that harvest festivals are very agricultural and i get the feeling . that ahten city doesn't have a thriving agricultural history
dawn vault
although. committing to like a specific holiday might not be our route. the "make shit up" way may be it
nah dude we just haven't seen the new map yet: Farmbilly John's Fields
merry sail
you're so right i can't wait for rthe new striker "farmbilly joan" the granddaughter of farmbilly john set on surpassing her grandfather's legacy by harnessing omega energy to increase Harvests
dawn vault
oh my god
you know what you may be onto something. we need a hillbilly character
anyway truth be told i have no real preference between spring and autumn. but which one we pick can influence what kind of Themes we can approach in the routes. just small references to Themes that would be fun. you feel
merry sail
i would go with summer festival becuase i feel like those are the biggest most general ones in my experience
they had a cider sausage dog fair somewhere near me. all three of those things at the same festival
madness
dawn vault
WHAT
summer is generally more fireworky season which is good for kai enjoyers. and also feels very concert-y season. which is good for oni twin enjoyers.
many options in store for us
wheat river
ehhhh i think we are overthinking it
dawn vault
well it's just a matter of what we want the setting to be isn't there
i'm sure we could come up with fun things no matter what season it is
merry sail
there's no such thing as overthingking...
dawn vault
just a matter of collectively settling on one
fathom skiff
Also why did we start talking abt festivals i just hopped in n saw smthn abt summer n winter n whatever
dawn vault
oh it was a concept suggested a while back
just came up again bc we started talking about the setting of the game
fathom skiff
I think just keeping it as their daily life aside corestrike would be fine tbh
velvet sundial
what do ya guys think?
dawn vault
i think the concept was just to have something in the background writers can fall back on if they're short on ideas
- saves resources in terms of reusing assets if multiple people use it as a setting xd
fathom skiff
Since we already know p little abt their daily life outside of the game thats alrd abunch to explore on
M tru
velvet sundial
i think the concept was just to have something in the background writers can fal...
winter? I tought summer 😭
dawn vault
oh we never decided on season
dawn vault
i think i got a little lost on what the melody was supposed to be on the second one here that's the only note i have
wheat river
oooh i like the second one
vernal solar
I'm trying to think of what an interesting setting to maybe suggest but I'm not really coming up with anything
wheat river
whats yer gut say
merry sail
my gut says summer festivals rock and i can use "cider sausage dog" as a bit within the story
dawn vault
you're really excited about cider sausage dog huh
vernal solar
I think a festival or holiday could be interesting
merry sail
cider sausage dog is inherently funny
wheat river
you can put a cider sausage dog anywhere tho
i think we are hinging a bit much on the season
99% of things you can do in a vn you can do regardless of season
merry sail
you can do so much with a cider sausage dog
dawn vault
cookie bug you can make a cider sausage dog store with an eccentric clerk background character and we will all cheer
dawn vault
merry sail
i can imagine anything.
anyway yes you can do stuff regardless of season but if we want people to do "backgrounds" and "settings" it is actually useful to know what we're working with
it can obviously be variable if we just wanna go with a bunch of slices of their lives from different times. but then we run into the problem of not being able to reuse backgrounds
wheat river
we should put it to a vote
merry sail
so we can go with the generic kind of "Just Green Vaguely Temperate Nice Day" or smth more specific
dawn vault
could make like a strawpoll and pin it
wheat river
yeah but idk how to get the attention of everyone in a thread
maybe i can put it in the sheet
dawn vault
ping every single individual person
/j
i miss the old strawpoll look
so pleasant
now she is corprate and boring
dawn vault
heh..... i am just faster.............
vernal solar
Since Vyce has a voice line saying she's seen Rune at all of her shows, I think you could do something interesting in a Vyce/Rune route by potentially having it start before one of Vyce's shows
dawn vault
i think them bonding over similar tastes in music is a very cute progression of that
vyce being outgoing and trying to break him out of his self-imposed shell by roping him into singing along and at first he's like I Don"t Want To but she's too hard to say no to
eventually he starts having fun with it..... let the good times roll
fathom oriole
Hmm, do we have to make it in the same timeframe? Like. Some strikers would thrive in specific seasons while others would in others
What's stopping us from just. Being flex about it?
Yeah we might need more BG elements but
Worth considering at least...
Huh
No love for spring
I thought the flower season would do well with the theme
But ig it wouldn't do so well for the platonic ones
topaz panther
Hmm, do we have to make it in the same timeframe? Like. Some strikers would thri...
on the topic of more bg elements consider the age old cost cutting tactic of using the exact same model/art with minor color and image variations in order to emulate different seasons and weather
fathom oriole
Yeh that works 
dawn vault
a bit easier said than done i think if it's a 2d method but it could work
wheat river
I think it would feel too all over the place if we just did whatever season
river wave
ooooh autumn is winning
fathom skiff
I love autumn(i never experienced it)
river wave
PLAID
no (lot less) mosquitos!!!!
this summer was unbearable tbh I've been waiting for autumn
me every September:
fathom skiff
Yall have times when mosquitos just dont exist
river wave
not until winter tbh but at least I'll be able to y'know go outside :')
this summer was really bad
fathom oriole
Listen to your heart
gusty isle
Ok so
Start will probably be at the start of a Vyce concert
I liked that idea
Rune just suddenly asks her out while she's giving autographs or something
Big awkward moment (?)
Idk, just throwing out ideas
Vyce accepts a little hurriedly as she already sees reporters closing in, not wanting to make too big of a mess of it right before a concert
fathom oriole
That sounds cute 
gusty isle
fathom oriole
Tho mayhaps Vyce being the one asking out...
Mayhaps, just to explore your options
gusty isle
Tbh I haven't thought of it that way
fathom oriole
What'd that go like
gusty isle
So
Would the date then be right after the concert or like the day after?
Or just a mini thing like going out for ice cream before actual date
fathom oriole
The reason I suggested the other option was cuz I think if Vyce hurriedly accepts it, that's the part where we run into problems
gusty isle
Big awkward moment (?)
Because Vyce is still surrounded by other fans
fathom oriole
Like. Where'd they decide to go, when...
gusty isle
Idk, just throwing out ideas
🪬
gusty isle
True
fathom oriole
Just asking them questions to maybe help you find answers and that way make it work
gusty isle
I haven't even thought of the player themselves being Vyce
Since I'm assuming that's the one who'll be asking the other one out
Whoever is controlled by the player that makes the decisions
fathom oriole
Hm. Yeah that might be the case, true
wheat river
it doesn't always have to be the player being the one asking out
gusty isle
Wait
Do you get to choose which one you are in the VN
Or are you guaranteed to be a certain striker if you pick a certain one
Like Rune/Vyce you're always Rune or something
wheat river
you choose who you play and then you choose who you talk to
you can talk to anyone at any time but only one person can be like "maxed out"
gusty isle
wheat river
my idea was at the start of each route you pick a character and you get a list of the others on a phone and you text them or they text you depending on who it is
and then it goes from there into a irl situation
so it could be like rune texts vyce or more likely vyce texts him asking if her number one fan will be at her concert and he's like heck yeah i will
etc etc
andthen it graduates into your story
gusty isle
fathom oriole
Ooh I like that idea
gusty isle
andthen it graduates into your story
"You seem into me."
"Huh???"
"Am I wrong?"
"... No..."
"Wanna go on a date?"
"Sure."
Or something
gusty isle
Tho mayhaps Vyce being the one asking out...
.
wheat river
based
gusty isle
versed eagle
fathom oriole
So real
versed eagle
im just here to give my rune ideas
gusty isle
so once ive done draft 2 of Black Metal thing, would you review the rune stuff
versed eagle
i dont mind
wheat river
do you have the full route planned out
quasi raft
Tho mayhaps Vyce being the one asking out...
Kabedon but with the leg
fathom oriole
Oh boy I know EXACTLY what you mean
Hey don
Note this down (it won't fit anywhere ik but the image is vivid in my head I apologize)
gusty isle
Note this down (it won't fit anywhere ik but the image is vivid in my head I apo...
note what
i googled "kabedon but with the leg" and i think i know what you two are talking about
gusty isle
do you have the full route planned out
like me? im not sure
wheat river
ye you
it's different with everyone but for me I like to have a vague outline of where I want the story to go
before properly writing
wheat river
usually in writing communities there's the terms planner and pantser
planners do lots of planning before writing while pantsers write by the seat of their pants so next to no planning
and then there's plantsers
which is basically me
I do enough planning to get going
gusty isle
i have some kind of plan
my brain usually just randomly thinks of things to fill in the gaps while not writing
fluid sparrow
uh now that im unemployed
i can help a bit more with proofreading and writing when I'm not working on other OS projects
gusty isle
topaz panther
i can help a bit more with proofreading and writing when I'm not working on othe...
Me and malla will make sure to run asher stories by you /hj
vast jackal
usually in writing communities there's the terms planner and pantser
I always thought the terms for this were architect and gardener due to Stephen King
gusty isle
vyce being outgoing and trying to break him out of his self-imposed shell by rop...
That was at 3 am
If there is any rune/vyce discussuon while I'm asleep, please ping me so I can find it later
balmy siren
fathom oriole
and then there's plantsers
Pants not being a Pantser I feel scammed
wheat river
im mostly a pantser
fathom oriole
wheat river
me on an outline: "era runs into the bathroom to be sad, manager notices and comforts her and recommends therapy the end"
actual: million word ultra dramatic scene that has the manager replaced with 3 other characters
river wave
LMAO
dawn vault
i feel like the way i write alternates depending on how much the inspiration beam blasts me the moment i start on a concept hgfdkghfdjg
fluid sparrow
Me and malla will make sure to run asher stories by you /hj
Please
gusty isle
i had this amazing plan in head for black metal
lets see if i remember it when i start writing
gusty isle
bis is good?
gusty isle
Vyce misspelling trailer is so bis
i was even looking at google to see if the word was correct and didnt notice google correction 
fathom oriole
LMAO
gusty isle
proof im not natively english
fathom oriole
Happy little accidents
fathom oriole
proof im not natively english
writes a masterpiece
"Btw not my native language"
You got this
gusty isle
fym masterpiece
fathom oriole
Oh it's like
A trope in fan fic communities
The "non native speaker who writes amazing"
Or smth
gusty isle
fathom oriole
Lol
wheat river
I love them
balmy siren
Is vyce going to play through the fire and the flames?
balmy siren
Or through the fire and flames or the freebird solo one or the other take it or leave it
gusty isle
Yeah
balmy siren
Correct
topaz panther
Also what person
Bc i assumed it would be second person with the player directly acting through a character
river wave
it does make the most sense for the medium to do 2nd person
versed eagle
Medium?
topaz panther
I would assume its second person present tense
versed eagle
You think I know what medium in vn means
wheat river
i think we decided third person
medium is just
like what you use to tell the story
in this case our medium is a vn
second person hmmmm
second person might make it harder because you have to change every line individually
if you do third person you don't need to do that
so instead of "you go to the concert" (rune pov) and "rune tells you he's going to the concert" (vyce pov) it's "rune goes to the concert" both ways
dawn vault
oh yeah i hadn't even thought about this
i usually write in third person present tense so i hadn't even given it any thought
if it was like a self insert thing i'd feel less inclined towards third but with the way we're forming it at present that seems like the best way to me
fathom oriole
Wait, present tense?
dawn vault
yeah
i open the door. i walk in the room. i speak to person
or in this example you'd replace "i" with whatever pronoun or name substitute for the character
fathom oriole
Hmmmge I usually default to past tense when writing so ig it never occurred to me
Yeah VNs do go in present tense I believe
Right?
dawn vault
makes sense bc part of the experience is it being a game you're actively playing and experiencing rather than a story of the past you're reading
fathom oriole
Mhm mhm
dawn vault
you know. projects like these make me realize i have very limited examples of my writing
i don't really compile it anywhere accessible i should probably do that
lmfao
wheat river
ye
defo present tense makes more sense
i wrote a whole novel length fic in first person and ngl i barely remember it in that perspective lol
i defo prefer third present but
kinda wild i did that
wheat river
wack
velvet sundial
guys maybe I found a in my opinion very good writer that might join this 🙂
fathom oriole
storm gust
👀
balmy siren
dawn vault
i don't really compile it anywhere accessible i should probably do that
realized how few examples i actually have available so i just decided to start writing smth new to fill it out a little more LOL
i will send that all... when i am Done. so you may Witness it.
fathom oriole
wheat river
dawn vault
i will send that all... when i am Done. so you may Witness it.
and then i got Nervous for No Reason.
wheat river
hey its okay it happens
dawn vault
ok. i'm brave now. i have a folder of content for perusal. i drop this and i take off running at 70 miles per hour
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NJRz4s4ZhsXOlUUb9GZAhgcETLD31dBN
if this doesn't share properly. i will die.
also i didn't actually know what to call the only omega strikers one there. it was just "kitty" for a while but that's entirely because i have a disease called "project sekai fan" (this is why two of my only examples are project sekai) (sorry) (lol)
wheat river
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
fathom oriole
Just read the Kitty one
Genuinely so cute I simply adore
wheat river
rune writers pop off
fathom oriole
You're a lovely author; gonna read the rest at a later time
But it was a very fun read for sure!
wheat river
yeah amazing writing!!!!!!
dawn vault
uwa. thank you ☺️
velvet sundial
wait, so Rasmus and Estelle were togheter?
wheat river
yes
topaz panther
also i didn't actually know what to call the only omega strikers one there. it w...
So I'm not alone in getting addicted to ps
dawn vault
So I'm not alone in getting addicted to ps
you know it 🫡 my ass has been insane about this game for basically 3 years lol
novel edge
I see, I just always assumed she’s a minor purely by looks and her student outfit
wheat river
nah she isn't
novel edge
Okie dokie
wheat river
imo she doesnt even look like a minor but people see it so
novel edge
Look at her figure compared to everyone else
That’s kinda my argument, even the younger strikers look noticeably older
But she does have centuries worth of knowledge so you know
novel edge
Oh fr?
wheat river
and she is definitely the most mature member of her team, she acts like an adult and sounds like an adult
she's just got a small body
novel edge
Id say zentaro is the most mature. Aimi is bratty
wheat river
being quiet vs being loud does not determine maturity
dawn vault
i think ai.mi's thing is mostly that like. she's spiteful hasn't really gotten to experience being a person so even if she did have an age it doesn't actually really mean a lot for her personality bc of course she's gonna act out right
wheat river
yeah she's just upset at everything all the time like that doesn't make someone immature
and zentaro is quiet cuz of what he's been through up til now, that doesn't make someone mature
novel edge
It’s certainly an argument though
novel edge
Are you saying I don’t have an argument?
wheat river
i don't think there is even anything to debate really anyway, it's just fact as far as i'm concerned
but the point is this is not the channel for it
dawn vault
i think. how do i want to word this
novel edge
i don't think there is even anything to debate really anyway, it's just fact as ...
You are stating an opinion?
F apple
wheat river
not the channel for this discussion
novel edge
Bash is straight cooking rn
dawn vault
i think there is a discussion that could be had on people's perceptions of an ageless character and how that affects the ships that character is involved in, sure. but from what i can tell a majority of people in this channel has agreed on the opinion of like. ai.mi can experience her anger and her desire to be acknowledged and act out against others without being perceived as just a child (because experiencing emotion doesn't equal immaturity). and clearly there are going to be routes involving her and other characters in this vn, some of which are going to be written romantically, so if you're going to have that debate somewhere i don't actually think you're gonna be changing anyone's minds here honestly
sorry that's wordy. i wanted to find the right words for it
novel edge
You are good bro!
wheat river
👍
novel edge
I agree, minds aren’t really going to be changed cause it’s a moral and ethical dilemma
dawn vault
personally i don't really have much of a leg in the game bc like. i'm obviously not an ai.mi superfan or anything lol. but yeah
people will have different opinions on it naturally. honestly even i have some thoughts on it. but if you're gonna exchange those thoughts you might want to consider how and where you word it ya kno
versed eagle
AI mi doesn't have age but she hates being treated like a kid and wants to be seen as adult
Which has been confirmed 
novel edge
I’m just saying she looks too similarly to a child. If she’s in a dating game an eyebrow would certainly rise
versed eagle
She
Doesn't 💀
wheat river
small adults exist
novel edge
small adults exist
That point was already made
wheat river
and yet
novel edge
I’m not saying I don’t want her in the project. I’m just saying it will lead to some certain fans
wheat river
you can't create something without there being people against that thing
dawn vault
i was gonna say i. think those will exist anyway
novel edge
i was gonna say i. think those will exist anyway
Oh they already do sadly
wheat river
trust me i understand your concern but it's addressed
so i'd really prefer not to flood the chat further
novel edge
I tried to dm you?
dawn vault
i kinda dunno if pants wants to even continue the debate lol
wheat river
you're fine
novel edge
Sorry I thought I was getting blamed
gusty isle
what happened
novel edge
Basically yes
gusty isle
ok
wheat river
i just don't want this channel to be flooded with this issue that's already been addressed and has been talked about a lot and if you wanted to talk to other people who don't have their minds made up about it then there's other channels like hc chat or ai.mi mains
gusty isle
wheat river
i'm not wanting to like make you feel bad or anything
novel edge
The ai.mi main channel avoids the topic
wheat river
understandable
novel edge
It’s mostly just wholesome shit like headpats
wheat river
smh imagine being wholesome ugh /j
novel edge
It’s kinda cringe then you realize just how wholesome it is lol
wheat river
cringe is good
cringe means people being themselves without fear of judgement and that's good :)
i love the headpats a lot
novel edge
Can be
wheat river
and if the headpatting in ai.mi mains is cringe then i dont even wanna know what this vn would be classified as cuz it will be that but amped up to 11
topaz panther
Cringe has lost all meaning and i now take pride in being called it 
fathom oriole
I wish I were as cool as you
fathom girder
For which age group is the game?
topaz panther
I would say teens at the v least because some character designs are suggestive as well as the game having a lot of dark implications where clarion corp is concerned
river wave
teens for me as well
dawn vault
ok continuing what i was saying but in here this time. it's kinda hard to decide what i'd wanna write for to start with bc there's a lotta options and i think some of them should have a little more collaborative love put into em right. but also i'm so kazan pilled right now yet we haven't actually added him as an option 😭
wheat river
Kazan is there you can write for him
he just isn't in the sheet yet
go write Kazan bestie
wheat river
dawn vault
wheat river
as for deciding who you want, I recommend prioritizing characters who you have put your name down for
and if still struggling just like roll a die
dawn vault
nods nods
i don't think i wanna jump straight into some of the rune routes without like. consulting the council first. bc i won't actually know how to write him/what direction to go in for certain routes without the council
But.
wheat river
fair
dawn vault
i Do know what i am going to Start working on.
dawn vault
with my combined powers of "skill in writing freaks who are kinda normal in a way but are by still really weird" and "skill in writing massively autistic motherfuckers" i can do anything
I can write Anything
dawn vault
okay turns out i'm too sleepy to do this right now
good enough for the time being
probably
i'm so sleepy. i have to go play a handful of splatoon rounds and then perish
wheat river
WOOOO
fathom oriole
fathom oriole
good enough for the time being
Cookin
wheat river
good enough for the time being
I love this a lot
dawn vault
thank you guys =w=
kazan's funny to write because he's so strange
actual fanboy with octavia
gusty isle
Basically one of the big reasons I picked Rune/Vyce
wheat river
everyone writing for the demon twins is just fan/musician sadfkjsdn
dawn vault
society when the canon makes so many characters fans of the musicians
velvet sundial
I have a few ideas for some X dialogues
river wave
ayooo? 👀
dawn vault
out of curiosity is there any sort of structure we have in mind for like. the format and length of the routes? like a set number of interactions over insert length of time (such as a few days or the course of a week, which i see every now and then in vns), or perhaps a number of separate "stages" without any specific length of time between them (kind of like the summer vn, or like. sorry for being a fire emblem fan but like fire emblem supports) ?
i was thinking having some frame of reference in that domain might help me work on ideas without them being too short or too long
wheat river
I think just no specific length of time is probably fine, but if we are going with the festival idea we want it to be over the course of like a few weeks max I think?
dawn vault
okie dokie =w= i think a number of routes will take ingame days to weeks to complete their storylines so i was trying to feel out what would feel like a good length for some concepts
wheat river
y'all seem to know what that is
river wave
fire emblem supports, so like interaction between gameplay to have the possibility to level up/connect with the members in your party between the parts of the game that are fighting gameplay. From what I've seen they do take a lot of inspo from VNs
wheat river
:o based
except in this instance there is no gameplay to break it up
unless we want to put a shitty mini game on it
flappy core
/j
fathom oriole
Flappy core lol
quasi raft
fire emblem supports, so like interaction between gameplay to have the possibili...
claude
storm gust
Yeah I did think about that for this kind of VN
Characters interacting each other with meaningful convos
dawn vault
doing it in stages like fe supports also offers a lot of flexibility on how long it is between each stage, like the first and second scenarios could be back to back but the third one takes place days later. it allows for more creative freedom compared to if we wanted a rigid "this game's events all take place over the course of (insert timeframe)" like many dating sims (some of cheritz's comes to mind) do
wheat river
yusss
viscid helm
I've not checked this channel in a while 
fathom skiff
viscid helm
fathom oriole
aimi, juliette and juno the trio of collecting trinkets
wheat river
could be a good way to write them
balmy siren
Juli carries around the first tooth shes lost because she was too careless
Juno has a mountain of rocks or like sticks and everything between
Ai.mi has a collection of probably electronics or like old ones of the past
wheat river
love that
balmy siren
leaden heath
AiMi carries around a floppy disk that she calls her great great great grandma
fathom skiff
Got grandma in her pocket
hazy ridge
aw this is neat kinda sad i missed the chance to join
well, actually idk if i can still pop in
pseudo girder
if it's not done you can contribute
fathom oriole
Yep yep go to the doc in pinned and pop your name into any categories you'd like to contribute in
hazy ridge
yesh 
young vine
So I had this random idea of Drek'ar complaining that he is not well accepted by humans, but he dresses like hes ready to kill someone (and the gun doesn't help it) so Estelle helps him with some fashion tips and maybe they could even go on a date to try some outfits together
vernal solar
I unironically want to write something for this but 1; I have life to deal with and 2; I'm likely to forget about it for weeks at a time
balmy siren
wheat river
reef jasper
Do I have the ability to date Dubu?
novel edge
You’ll have to go through me first
reef jasper
You’ll have to go through me first
Notices ur Morgana
Steps over you
novel edge
I’m tank priest
reef jasper
sigh fine, here comes the pain!
Summons Ac-130
gusty isle
reef jasper
Big Dubu is DEFINITELY worth it
novel edge
Baby Dubu is better
reef jasper
I want what I want
novel edge
You get big one and I get pocket sized
reef jasper
It’s settled
wheat river
dubu isn't currently an option in this game
wheat river
mayhaps
vernal solar
instead of a romance route its just learning how to understand what dubu says
fluid sparrow
Just a buddy route with dubu
Or dubu is a part of the Juliette story
You gotta become bros with dubu to have a shot with Juliette, they're both each other's ride or dies
wheat river
tru
i'm actually making big progress on era and estelle's route
at least, the outline of it
hopefully completion of it and inclusion of it in the spreadsheet will jump start other writers' ability to write the routes they want to as they will have something to go on
fathom oriole
Yeah a template would help so much orz
leaden heath
Yess!!
solemn pumice
Im here to arrive this.. 
wheat river
hiiii
novel edge
Sure! What do you need me to do?
wheat river
well I guess when we have more people having written things you could help proofread or if you're interested you can write things yourself
novel edge
Which characters are already written?
And is this one of those play as yourself dating sims?
reef jasper
Make scripts for Dubu :3
reef jasper
Twas a good joke
wheat river
there's no dubu (yet) and no you don't play yourself
there is a spreadsheet pinned that should inform you of some things at least
novel edge
there's no dubu (yet) and no you don't play yourself
Are there any characters that don’t have lines yet?
Like what do you want me to do?
wheat river
there's barely been any writing down yet for anything
novel edge
I see
wheat river
on the sheet anything with a comment on it has someone working on it, but that doesn't mean you can't help them
novel edge
Right
wheat river
you can put your name under a character's name to express interest in writing said character
and each pairing has its own tab which i think ultimately will be used to outline the pathways of the vn
wheat river
like, not at all
novel edge
But we will make this correct?
wheat river
hopefully
novel edge
Hello
velvet sundial
soo
I was thinking
can the strikers have different outfits from the mains?
cuz I have a LOT of ideas
wheat river
can the strikers have different outfits from the mains?
I think most artists would draw people in casual outfits for this considering they won't be playing core strike and I don't want to subject anyone to drawing era's outfit
up to the artists in the end
river wave
nyehehehe
river wave
I was just remembering the super funny low effort "disguises" we wrote in our separate fanfics LMAO
night knoll
I have a suggestion to name this fangame omega shippers
dawn vault
I have a suggestion to name this fangame omega shippers
wait no this goes hard hang on
river wave
OOO
wheat river
just spam ping nameless until they post it
meager frigate
Cute outfit for Estelle
wheat river
YEAAAAA
novel edge
I love the smug af look on Kai
wheat river
estelle dressing like a school teacher or somethin
honestly she's probably better disguised because she only has blue hair, kai has kai hair
novel edge
I feel like they would be easy af to see in public
fathom oriole
honestly she's probably better disguised because she only has blue hair, kai has...
Lol true
wheat river
i think most of them could disguise pretty well
all kai needs is a hat
x would never want to be disguised in public but i think everyone else would potentially want to
young vine
Dubu can only be disguised as life size plushy
novel edge
Dubu just puts on swag glasses
He looks so confident in his look people just pretend to not notice
young vine
Trying out the UI
inland crystal
DATING SIM?? i am interested omg 💝
river wave
Trying out the UI
awww heck yeah I love your art
young vine
thank you so much
I'm really in doubt between going for a more gamey style for the character icons like this one I made or go for like a profile pic of some sorts, but considering the size the second option might not be possible
young vine
Testing a slightly different approach
wheat river
ayo? :o
this is so cute
is this the character select screen for who you play as? or who you pick to talk to
young vine
Thanks I was thinking it would be used to pick who you will talk to and maybe as a little icon when the character is speaking
wheat river
:o
in my head and i think i mentioned it here at some point but i was imagining that to select someoen's route to talk to/resume/etc it would be like a phone's contact list
and maybe these could be the contact pics
for character who is speaking, in a vn usually it just has their image bright when they're talking and dark when they're not talking
or it has their name
or both
either way these little icons are AMAZING and there is ccertainly application for them either way
young vine
Well they are for made for the phone in mind
young vine
for character who is speaking, in a vn usually it just has their image bright wh...
And for this I was saying like just an additional thing like in the monster prom series
wheat river
ooooh
i have monster prom installed but haven't played it lol
yeah that is pretty much a stand in i guess for just a name tag
i dig it!
wheat river
Well they are for made for the phone in mind
ngl i didnt realize that was a phone smh modern phones with their big ass screens /j
young vine
those damn phone developers
wheat river
every strike has a unique phone and unique wallpaper 😎
wheat river
but for real tho if you're making the ui you might wannaaaaaa talk to crow with it while you do it since that's like a big amount of the programming i imagine
young vine
i want it to have a cracked screen but since i was just testing the icons i will do it later
young vine
but for real tho if you're making the ui you might wannaaaaaa talk to crow with ...
I sent a dm but he didnt answer 
river wave
every strike has a unique phone and unique wallpaper 😎
who's basic and has a pic of themself for their lockscreen
wheat river
who do you think
wheat river
potentiay
young vine
the usual suspects
fathom oriole
X too, no
wheat river
true
river wave
yesssss
young vine
Really like how this one came out
also its cool that every striker has a unique wallpaper for their phone because I do them as commissions so i'm very used to it
young vine
thanks! I gonna have to do AiMi again already because she doesnt look as good
wheat river
LOOOOOVE these
novel edge
Really like how this one came out
Why does Rasmus look like the no bitches meme 
The one with the rock
young vine
He is inciting you to date him
fathom oriole
Xactly xD
quasi raft
Well they are for made for the phone in mind
Oh these are cute!
wheat river
ANNOUNCEMENT: i'm going to be participating in nanowrimo 2023 this year, and i'm going to be posting my nanowrimo profile here for anyone interested in joining me. reason i'm posting here is because my nano project will be to work on this vn every day :) https://nanowrimo.org/participants/pantscada
for those who dont know, nanowrimo is national novel writing month, and it tasks writers from november 1st to write 50k words over the course of the whole month!
feel free to add me as a buddy on the site if you are also participating :D
young vine
Oh thats pretty cool!
velvet sundial
I think most artists would draw people in casual outfits for this considering th...
okkk
hazy ridge
definitely gonna call Juliette Jules or joules like the unit of measurement for energy cause she's all energy 😤
fathom oriole
"what's the power reading on this industrial drill?"
"one Jules"
"What?"
"You heard me"
wheat river
isn't it one joule
wheat river
o
vernal solar
So I presume we're gonna add Nao to this since she exists nao
wheat river
eventually
vernal solar
hazy ridge
eventually
add her right nao
wheat river
I don't wanna add Kazan and nao to the sheet yet but anyone is free to write them still :)
mainly not adding them cuz lazy but also cuz I don't wanna like feature creep
gusty isle
You're calling Kazan and he's like, in the middle of killing somebody and is trying to act natural when talking to you
inland crystal
REAL 💝
sour robin
TRUEE
gusty isle
You're calling Kazan and he's like, in the middle of killing somebody and is try...
Because you're waiting for him to show up on your date or something
vernal solar
"Hey where are ya at, you're late for our date."
the sound of stabbing is heard through the phone "Oh yeah sorry, I forgot to mention I had anything going on today so Clarion scheduled a job for me. I'll be right over once I'm done!"
young vine
This gave me the idea that his phone has some blood stains on the screen
Or maybe just on the corner
wheat river
dried blood he got too lazy to clean off
young vine
yup
gusty isle
Maybe gonna try writing Kazan/Vyce
Since that could be fun
Since from Kazan's lines, he listens to Octavia's music
So angst potential
dawn vault
i feel like if anything she'd be more annoyed with him encouraging her (perhaps being "pushy" from her pov) to get along better with octavia, rather than his music tastes
he's pretty blunt about his opinions but he does also immediately back that line up with saying he likes her attitude so i don't think it's unreasonable for them to get along despite vyce's bitterness about her and octavia's issues
gusty isle
blazing star
dried blood he got too lazy to clean off
He tells people that it's ketchup
velvet sundial
YES.
wheat river
i have 12 routes claimed at the moment
5 of which have other people also working on it potentially
i've also posted a new poll because summer and fall tied for the season
and i've put a link on the main page to the mini portfolio tabs so everyone can and should add examples of their work there
dawn vault
i'm kinda waiting on writing anything i'm working on to see what the actual structure/progression format we're going for is because i realized i genuinely have no idea what i'm supposed to be doing LOL
wheat river
that is very valid
dawn vault
i'll go ahead and link the google drive i made before =w=
wheat river
when i say example i mean like, if you're a writer i ask that you give an example of your writing
i'm going to make an example from a route eventually it's just going a bit slow
dawn vault
i think for the sake of energy and style consistency i'll probably not contribute as an illustrator this time around, just writing
wheat river
then everyone should be able to reference that
dawn vault
i think also. i don't know how to phrase this without sounding vaguely egotistical but i think i'm pretty good at like. i don't actually know what the word writing circles use for it but just like checking the flow of the writing and the tone of the characters to see if it feels right and stuff. is that proofreading? i don't know. i like to think i'm good at that. so while i might not ne invested enough in specific characters/pairings to work in depth on their routes, i'd be happy to help wherever in that regard ☺️
saying this here because i. have no idea how i would actually indicate that on the sheet without writing more "bash (maybe) (kinda) (sorta)"s on there LOL
wheat river
sounds like proofreading yeah
and there is nothing wrong with being aware of your own skills!!!!! its encouraged
i think im pretty decent at it too but i am too shy to actually tell people to change things cuz i feel like they will be upset with me
dawn vault
i'm the kind of writer who's usually pretty good at being able to judge how in character someone else's writing is even if i'm not actually able to capture that voice myself. which feels like a weird thing to say but i also just don't write those characters if i don't feel like i can do em justice yknow
dawn vault
at least. das what i think. i make mistakes all the time so i'm not impervious but still LOL
dawn vault
i think im pretty decent at it too but i am too shy to actually tell people to c...
tbh i totally get that bc i don't wanna hurt people's feelings or anything. but i also wanna make sure it feels Right ya kno.... i got that Forward Dawg in me
though i admit perhaps my willingness to say stuff may be a bit overwhelming sometimes so if you guys ever want me to reel it back if i'm trying to help lemme know LOL
left nest
i'm kinda waiting on writing anything i'm working on to see what the actual stru...
Same
left nest
saying this here because i. have no idea how i would actually indicate that on ...
Omg can you beta read my naostelle oneshot
velvet sundial
How did i even end up here, pretty sure i was in HC
HAGAHAH
left nest
How did i even end up here, pretty sure i was in HC
Fate
wheat river
update on the example route: i've written the outlines for the first two meetings between era and estelle (for each route i am thinking there's three meetings with the third meeting always going to be at the fall/summer (whatever we decided) festival with the two characters together there and their little arc completing there, and between each meeting is them texting each other to bridge those gaps)
so it's almost completely outlined
dawn vault
Omg can you beta read my naostelle oneshot
oh sure, i can take a look at it sometime when i'm free :o
left nest
oh sure, i can take a look at it sometime when i'm free :o
BET dm me
wheat river
https://i.imgur.com/mexNxah.png forgot i wrote this as part of the outline
novel edge
I feel like it would be funnier if the roles were reversed
Plus era the type of girl to use those Velcro shoes
left nest
Plus era the type of girl to use those Velcro shoes
She can do both trust 
young vine
I swear every time I have to do this freaking hat I have bad thoughts
young vine
But you did so good!
but at what cost 
Thank you anyway!
novel edge
Looks good
young vine
Which do you like more? (there is only 1 pixel of difference 
)
night knoll
the one on the right
wheat river
I swear every time I have to do this freaking hat I have bad thoughts
PIXEL ERA
also yeah right
i can see the pixel
fluid sparrow
Which do you like more? (there is only 1 pixel of difference <:LunaEhhh:10312507...
as a professional asher simp
right one please
wheat river
ayo its surplus
wheat river
are you planning on participating?
dark lantern
I... Don't know. How can I even do that? It's some kind of roleplay session?
I would be grateful if you can explain how it work
young vine
This is a game project of doing a real dating sim visual novel with the strikers as playable and datable characters
dark lantern
When I checked the doc, there was a lost of chars combinations. Like, Juliette/vice or Estella/runa
What are those fot?
young vine
Basically the player will be able to play as any of the strikers (that are allowed) and are able to date any of the others (that are allowed), so in the sheet shows all the possible combinations and who wants to write those stories
fluid sparrow
ayo its surplus
ayo its Pantscada!
wheat river
okay i've got a rough idea of a system to make writing these things less daunting
basically it poses a few questions for each route
**bond over **(what will these two characters bond over during the course of the route?)
who texts first (who approaches the other character?)
reason for text (why?)
1st scene (the place where their first scene together actually takes place, and what happens. think of this as the first part of a story where introductions and stuff occur, establish a conflict)
2nd scene (deepen the relationship, deepen the conflict in a different location ideally)
3rd scene (the two characters attend the festival together (or don't, if it's more impactful that way!) and resolve the conflict, may or may not kiss depending on the next question)
romantic? (is this pairing written to be romantic or not?)
here's an example of era and atlas' route that i just wrote up real quick https://i.imgur.com/GIF6xYb.png
young vine
ooh pretty nice
i thought that every route would be romantic, but maybe i was just missing out on some info
wheat river
a fair assumption
but not really viable when we have vyce and octavia here :p
also not everyone wants to write romance
young vine
but not really viable when we have vyce and octavia here :p
true i totally forgot about that fact
wheat river
and drekar
night knoll
here's an example of era and atlas' route that i just wrote up real quick https:...
wait pants i wasn't there when you hc that Era's butterflies are mechanical what were your thoughts behind that?
wheat river
they look mechanical
they could be purely magical but idk
if you look at era's disappointed emote they fall to the ground like they turn off if that makes sense
young vine
i always saw it as magical but thats a good argument
fathom oriole
mechanical creations powered by magical spirits
since... in my eyes... uh...
they're like familiars
no evidence for it
just me being me
wheat river
i dig it
leaden heath
Wait are you making pixel art icons for the strikers? @young vine what is the size?
I want to try it ^^
young vine
I'm working around 24x24
Actually its 25x25 I think I wanted to do in 24x24 but went for 25 by mistake
and then after the icon is done I do the double outline with black (#291d2b) and white (#f5ffe8)
novel edge
Why don’t you use 32x32
young vine
lol recruit that person
wheat river
https://vxtwitter.com/Golden_Ze/status/1719037573916459040?t=GbJjZT5ykISBvChjw-d...
dont let them know (do)
but also this is amazing
quasi raft
We need them on the TEAM
balmy siren
Nao 
wheat river
i love nao
wheat river
@storm gust @fathom skiff do you guys have ideas for atlas/era route
storm gust
What do you have so far?
storm gust
Let them nerd about different ways they build machines 
(pure tech vs eras magitech)
fathom skiff
Ye sjthn likr that
Talkin abt how can combine both n also thrm just enjoyin peace n quiet
Maybe era introduce him to stuff he dont expdct to enjoy
Like he reads a comic or novel from her recommendation thinkin he might noy like it but ends up very invested
fathom skiff
Idm if u or claude wanna write it
onyx sonnet
https://discord.com/channels/780470426010255380/1144686580800434268/116863588173...
I’m not on the Atlas/era part of the sheet but I potentially have something maybe?
wheat river
what ya got
onyx sonnet
So
Sorry it’s been so long
If I remember correctly Era has a line with Atlas in game
Lemme find it
Gotcha
My elevator pitch
Is that after Era and Atlas establish rapport w each other
Era’s over at his lab because she has a new book for him to check out
But she catches him failing an experiment that potentially almost harms him
So she sits down with him makes sure he’s alright
onyx sonnet
And she says that line above and it opens a serious conversation between the two
“I’m sure of it. I have to be. If I’m not, then…no. Don’t worry about me, Era. I’ll be fine.”```Or maybe it’s just 6 am and I’m spitballing
Also very possible
wheat river
:o
I think it's really nice
it's definitely the vibe I'm thinking of for sure
and it fits in to the little story I outlined already
storm gust
do either of yall want to write it or would you want me to
I can give it a shot but idk when Ill finish
gusty isle
ill post it here so Pants can scream at me if they don't see me having written anything new into it after like... a week, i guess
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaXwp-RXPQpelq_WwDw1YqWlKLyjmpze3a7SpZQj4aQ/edit?usp=sharing
wheat river
if you really want to go for it!! I would love to see what you fo
wheat river
ill post it here so Pants can scream at me if they don't see me having written a...
yoooooo
will try to read when I'm off
wheat river
warped glacier
fathom oriole