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[radiant spire]

Labrrynth has an unannounced card right

On big welcome

[grizzled coral]

we never getting the scissor girlie

[radiant spire]

Meaning we get future lab support

SHUT

HEAR me out

Future lab support means TAMA support

[grizzled coral]

no runicks pls

[radiant spire]

Meaning we get runick support

YEAAHHHH

RUNICK SUPPORT

[grizzled coral]

nooo...

VAYLANTZ SUPPORT

[radiant spire]

YEAHHHGHHHHHH

[grizzled coral]

[radiant spire]

NO

RUNICK

[grizzled coral]

SENET SWITCH 3

[radiant spire]

Meanwhile senet switch 2:

_ _

_ _

[grizzled coral]

vaylantz solo activation

[radiant spire]

Okay then you mean senet switch 6 then

[grizzled coral]

yes...

but thats the only playable one

unless if u count monster effects

[radiant spire]

Chrono, nazuki, buster

[grizzled coral]

whos chrono

o

nvm

[radiant spire]

Man I love it when I can move my fossil dyna

[grizzled coral]

ive never played the granite build

[faint wraith]

My scareclaw loving ass relates to this so much

The only saving grace is ironically scareclaw Kashtira

[safe magnet]

Damn.. what does bro have against peak

Meanwhile Genroku

[grizzled coral]

genroku is fine

if mag doesnt exist

[safe magnet]

I mean yeah, the other monster from Big Welcome is still missing

[radiant spire]

Gloogurt

[cold grotto]

Its fun but its literally just ignore the game and otk

[safe magnet]

it still takes effort to OTK

[quiet tiger]

Because the deck itself is bad, not that it isn't fun to play against

[raven fable]

almost every otk takes effort, all you need to do is learn the line and your good. it doesnt take plants effort to otk

[faint wraith]

I'd say a good going second OTK deck is Mikanko, as unlike other otk decks you can't just rely on board breakers to fix all of your problems and you need to work through the board your opponent makes.

[raven fable]

kaiju slumber

[faint wraith]

First, that is ONE boars breaker. Number two, the don't rely on it. It's helpful, but not necessary.

[safe magnet]

Tenpai does not take effort.. also Ancient Gears have multiple lines and not a single combo that leads to an OTK, every matchup requires you to play differently and so does every hand, way tougher than OTKing with Tenpai

[safe magnet]

Funnily enough Ancient Gear can only rely on like, backrow removal and droplet, you need your opponent to have monsters to properly OTK, there is a Dugares line, but it loses to a negate

[raven fable]

yeah, almost every otk

but does it really take effort?

[safe magnet]

... Try it and find out for yourself if you're sceptical

[quiet tiger]

It takes effort simply because it's bad. The effort comes in how much Newish prays to his dear mimighoul master to get lucky with drawing something like a raigeki

[safe magnet]

....

What?

[quiet tiger]

[safe magnet]

Mimighoul is a totally different deck from Ancient Gear?

[quiet tiger]

Whatever the main mimighoul guy is

[safe magnet]

Also Ancient Gears don't run Raigeki nor do they run Dark Hole?

[quiet tiger]

You treat it like the saint of all decks, the goat, literally god. So obviously that's the one you'd pray to

[quiet tiger]

Damn. Lightning storm or something then

[safe magnet]

It's played for it's Harpie's like effect

Ancient Gears want you to have your monsters

So that they can hit every one of them and kill you

[quiet tiger]

Oh yeah

[safe magnet]

Mimighoul is just a funny meme, I like memes, they die to an Impulse

[quiet tiger]

A what

[quiet tiger]

Oh, that guy

[safe magnet]

That's a girl

[quiet tiger]

Oh, that dragon

[safe magnet]

The dragon is the girl

[quiet tiger]

Still a dragon

[safe magnet]

There's also this

[quiet tiger]

That ones a cool ass mech

[safe magnet]

Played way less than Impulse though

[quiet tiger]

Because it locks you out if dark and fire, which seem to be the 2 best types rn

[safe magnet]

Mostly cuz of the fire lock yeah

Impulse locks you out of Light monsters aka you can't play the Fiendsmith with it, but it still finds a lot of play

[quiet tiger]

Fiendsmith seems like a secondary engine anyway in most decks

[safe magnet]

It is important in any deck that plays it, thus playing Impulse when using the Fiendsmith is not worth it

[cold grotto]

i am going to commit a war crime

i just played a 54 minute 22 turn game against runick

just for them to concede

how do you even have fun playing runick

you're just afk wasting your own time to maybe win after a 30+ minute game

i hope this guy steps on a lego

[cold grotto]

https://streamable.com/ctphnp?src=player-page-share

[cold grotto]

and that they then fall down a flight of stairs as a result

[faint wraith]

You have fun by not playing the stun variant and playing the Bystial variant that can go for game once you've deprived your opponent's resouces

[cold grotto]

also

why the fuck did my sera not trigger off the holeutea on turn 3

i literally win the game on the spot there if it does because i get to destroy fountain

but it just didnt trigger for fun and i cant tell why

[faint wraith]

What's that card the opponent has? The monster?

[cold grotto]

Amano iwato

Oh it has an effect floodgate

Epic

[faint wraith]

Yeah you faced Runick Stun. I like Runick, but I HATE the stun variants.

Normal Runick is a control deck. It's focused on multiple smaller interactions that can net you advantage back to out grind your opponent. Not to deny them the ability to play.

[faint wraith]

Also Runick has ways to recycle fountain as long as it isn't banished. It has a monster thay can retrieve it from the gy

[radiant spire]

Tenpai does not take effort..
I disagree

If you first start playing tenpai it takes effort

Trust me, I played it

YOu need to know everything about the battle phase

[radiant spire]

I was about to disagree with you before I looked at the clip

If it was a runick synchro/link variant then I would've disagreed, but, since this is runick stun, I will agree

It's just to grab some wins without effort

Though, as a former runick player, I do want to say that he played like shit

[raven fable]

did you know i can negate the battle phase rendering tenpai useless

[radiant spire]

I know at least 200 people that also know that

That is also completely irrelevant to what I was saying

[raven fable]

it isnt you also need to know people can just negate it

so now you know everything about it

[grizzled coral]

Runick or stun?

[radiant spire]

I mean it as in rulings for things like, damage step

Not "hehe troar"

Or "hehe negate attack"

Because damage step is such a stupid fase

[radiant spire]

2 different decks fr fr

[grizzled coral]

yep

[raven fable]

explain last turn

[safe magnet]

I've also played it.. it was.. literally brainless so long as you read your opponent's cards..

[radiant spire]

Shoot me

I ain't explaining that shit

[radiant spire]

TCG?

[safe magnet]

Yeah

I've also played a lot against it, sometimes all it takes for Tenpai to win is shifter in Draw Phase

[radiant spire]

That's a shifter problem

T_T

[safe magnet]

Yeah, I mean I also did watch a full Yubel board die to like 4 different removal cards and then get hit with the Sangen Summoning Normal Paidra

combo

And the Tenpai player was like fairly new to the game too, they didn't know their stuff

The deck is so brainless though that it doesn't stop them from winning instantly

[radiant spire]

Okay so what you're saying is, that sky striker is brainless too, because they can do the same thing

And AG

Because they can also run 4 removals and then do their OTK

Actually, lets just say everything

As long as it has enough non engine removal cards

Actually lets hold here, because I dont wanna get into this same topic again that we had before

Wanna prevent an idiot from joining the convo

Other topic,

Do you still have the kaleido and chaos archfiend?

[safe magnet]

Strikers and Ancient Gear have different lines and need more brains to play, their engines are much weaker, you don't have a board wipe in your extra deck, strikers don't have a card that prevents the opponent from playing, whereas Tenpai clears the board, ancient gear and strikers break it, huge difference

Requires more interactions than Tenpai

[safe magnet]

Yeah, I've got them on my desk in their toploaders

[radiant spire]

MMm, sweet

Not prepped to send or?

[safe magnet]

Not yet, I've still gotta research how it's actually done

[radiant spire]

Ah

[cold grotto]

shifter down to one

is the point of runick stun in master duel to just make your opponent concede out of boredom

what is the win con

[raven fable]

yes

and deck out

[cold grotto]

it takes 2 fucking hours to deck out

and this deck would lose to literally any deck in a bo3

where is the enjoyment

[raven fable]

defeating it?

[cold grotto]

where is the enjoyment in playing it

im not sitting through a 1 hour game where nothing happens

im just gonna ff and play 4 more games in the meantime

[raven fable]

them not playing

by them i mean you

[cold grotto]

but its not like the runick player is playing either

[raven fable]

ask joshua schmidt why he play so much runick

[grizzled coral]

Most people scoop when its clear the game is unwinnable

And the deck had built in life gain so it can cheese game 2/3

[safe magnet]

Ancient Gear

[north robin]

They are already dead by like 4x times over

[radiant spire]

Time to build madolche

List

Might play a ssecond sistart

[north robin]

Yo! Another Madolche player

[cold grotto]

https://streamable.com/56yfbl

tenpai players are something else man

[north robin]

Truly.

If they didn’t summon the previous turn they wouldn’t have been floodgated again.

[cold grotto]

they literally just had to not summon face up for one turn

and with my draw luck ill keep drawing bricks

[faint wraith]

My honest reaction

[radiant spire]

Mhm! I love the deck so far

I learned about lato looping really quiclly

Also also

Today I learned about tri brigade lyrilusc

This is a random test hand but you can achieve the same board without the sanc and tenki if you open a warbler and call/sparrow

[north robin]

Oh yeah, A-La-Mode looping is crazy once you figure out your lines. I had a 4 material A-La Mode against a dragon link player so I looped my copies of Tiaramisu to shuffle almost their entire board

[radiant spire]

Nono not lamode looping

(Messenge)lato looping

[north robin]

Oh yeah, That Lato. Yeah if you can keep him on a good rotation then you can search out anything

Only downside is you need a beast and he needs to be Chain link-1

[radiant spire]

Can we agree that meowcaroons is adorable

[north robin]

Very true fact.

[radiant spire]

I run a re-cover so I can make nat beast for funny spice shenanigans

[north robin]

Oh, I see

[radiant spire]

(Almost) Every deck of mine needs some weird shit that does funny things

[north robin]

That makes it unique then if it has something unexpected.

[radiant spire]

Exactly

It's funny when your opponent has to pick up a card they have never seen in their whole life

[radiant spire]

Or just randomly another engine like this Gigantic + red

I could use a replacement though, any suggestion is fine, I thought this was the best one so far

[cold grotto]

why can't i link into monk of the tenyi

all my opponent has done is ash emergence and imperm mo ye

[faint wraith]

I think the token makes you only able to summon synchros

[cold grotto]

oh

that is so cringe why is that a thing

[faint wraith]

Cause token generators need restrictions

[grizzled coral]

💀 ?

[north robin]

Very True. Tokens need restrictions if they are brought out easy to make sure link spamming too frequently.

[raven fable]

most of them have one

[radiant spire]

Linkross traumas

[faint wraith]

Yeah. I was just saying that's why the swordsoul tokens need restrictions.

[radiant spire]

Rate list

[faint wraith]

You only need one D.D. crow as it can be easily searched out, but if you find yourself needing more than one you can keep it. Also having Linkuriboh instead of Almiraj would be a little bit more practical if you wanted to get Lyriluscs in the gy

All in all a good list.

I persobally run three wagtails as it's an easy way to get your search along with three recitals, as three recitals makes playing through hand traps easier.

[radiant spire]

Also having Linkuriboh instead of Almiraj would be a little bit more practical

TCG list

Forgot to note

I dont actively play md

[faint wraith]

Oh is Linkuriboh banned there?

[north robin]

Yeah, Linkurioh is banned in TCG (Thanks Snake-eyes. Very cool)

[grizzled coral]

i bought mine a week before the ban to play paleo

[raven fable]

they also banned bunch of staples like baron on floor and bear

[north robin]

Rip.

[north robin]

Actually...Now I want to build Paleo.

[cold grotto]

i mean i think that's fine, I just think its stupid that it prevents my tenyi from linking into a card who required a non-link tenyi to be created

like the restriction should be on the token not my whole board for fun

[faint wraith]

Well the intention is for you to use the token to synchro with the creator immediately.

[cold grotto]

but... why

in how many scenarios does this actually matter in a meaningful way

just seems like it removes flexibility for no reason

because i dont see a world where it would be unbalanced if it wasnt

[faint wraith]

Mo ye instantly becomes two link materials along with any level 8 synchro.

Long yan (I think that's his name) becomes a link two without even needing a normal summon

[cold grotto]

yeah but why isn't the condition just "this token must be used to synchro"

instead of "all you can do is synchro while this token is on the field"

whatever its just interesting to think about

clearly swordsoul is too strong 😹

[raven fable]

please dont make mo ye any stronger

you can do such stupid strats with special summon mo ye

[faint wraith]

In Farfa's last card standing with level eater available you see the duelist make an insane board with a single normal summon mo ye

[raven fable]

one of the funnier thing with mo ye is bishbaalkin ftk

[safe magnet]

HOLY BAZINGA

[north robin]

Yo Royal Pyro Phoenix!

Nice

[faint wraith]

Pretty crazy md banlist, huh

[north robin]

Yeah.

Quite.

The only card I see that is concerning is probably Goblin due to it being very generic for a extra normal summon though it is a link-2 with left and right arrows.
Mermaid is pretty good though and will probably raise more opportunities for orcusts since it can be made from any knightmare monster which can fetch the knightmare orcust for things.
Master peace has pretty much been power crept since it’s just an unaffected monster ( two thirds of the card type) with quick effect destruction which is alright to deal with now. Also it only works if he’s tribute summoned and he can just be removed by a Kaiju.

[grizzled coral]

most problematic one imo is dragoon

hate that guy fr fr

[faint wraith]

To be fair, the argument of "It can just be removed by a kaiju" can apply to all boss monsters. But yeah compared to other cards it has been powercrept.

Dragoon however.. sure you're running a couple of bricks, but you do that with any verte engine. And Dragoon is definitely the highest payoff off of one Verte.

[north robin]

I mean, there is also Daruma cannon, any card that tributes for cost, or simply getting beat over

[faint wraith]

Omni-negate Daruma. It's ability boosts its attack when it pops something. The only reliable out is tribute for cost.

[north robin]

wait…where is Master Peace’s effect to Omni-negate

[faint wraith]

Oh I was talking about Dragoon so I assumed you were mentioning ways to beat Dragoon

[north robin]

I assumed master peace due to that card being along what I said. Though Yeah, Dragoon can do all that.

[faint wraith]

I said that while Kaiju can be an argument against all boss monsters (save for a select few) Master Peace has certainly been powercrept. Then I typed a full paragraph about Dragoon.

[north robin]

Aright, gotcha gotcha. I understand the confusion

[faint wraith]

Yeah. Dragoon is going to be crazy to try and deal with.

[raven fable]

they breached containtment

i dont think dragoon is gonna be a problem i fear more ib then dragoon

and knightmare being unlimited meaning we finally getting world chalice stuff

i also remember world chalice getting some support of more links so definetely gonna be fun

[faint wraith]

Considering she was good enough to be banned in mr4 with all the restrictions on non link monsters, yeah that fear is justified.

[grizzled coral]

she hasnt done anything in the tcg in the last 3 months

dragoon just kinda canca with verte

[faint wraith]

Just faced the world's smartest DM player

It was a few turns in and they had two eternal souls out and a few monsters, trying to out my avramax, then summoned Timaeus.

Bro sent an eternal soul as cost

[raven fable]

smart

[raven fable]

md and tcg banlist are varied maybe she will do something with knightmare being out

i am pretty sure the orcust package is free from the banlist

so hopefully that appears

[faint wraith]

Yeah all orcust and knightmare cards are unbanned except for Iblee (who no one will miss)

[faint wraith]

Today I learned that Sinful Spoils Betrayal can negate evenly matched

[radiant spire]

I love populus

Such a cute lil skrungly

[faint wraith]

A little skrungly that I am not going to use in white woods. Also I got a sick royal Diabell :)

[faint wraith]

A pretty ok endboard if I do say so myself

[raven fable]

not the max c

also where did their board go

[faint wraith]

It's a cpu and they set one card and I popped it with Baronne

Also after seeing what WW can do, this end board is actually kinda garbage

[safe magnet]

Whelp, Crossover Breakers has been out for a bit now

The prices plummeted, sad for those who bought their stuff pre release

[faint wraith]

I got a pretty good white forest replay (yes what my opp played was some weird jank but you can see how the end board and interactions turn out)

By the way you can make dragoon in white forest without verte or bricks

[faint wraith]

What drawing zero spells does to a mf

[faint wraith]

You know what who needs spells in the opening hand

[raven fable]

cant believe you are cheating so you get 2 ash's every time

[faint wraith]

I don't get two ashes every time, sadly. Sometimes it's ash and an effect veiler

Also

On master duel white forest discord

Someone is arguing about how wf cent is better than toy box engine because it can play through maxx c with things like sillouette rabbit and bagooska (not centurion btw)

He posts a replay saying "I got hit with two maxx c's and won because I didn't play into it"

In the replay he has like 4 hand traps and just doesn't let the opponent play

"See I played through two maxx c centurion is the best version of white forest"

[raven fable]

wdym card archetypes have their own discord servers

oh wtf card archetypes actually have discord servers

at last i can join flower cardian community where you dont play yugioh in yugioh

[faint wraith]

Yep. Well not servers but channels

Literally every archetype has a channel

[faint wraith]

Average Dark Magician game

[safe magnet]

Huh, players in MD are also using the Mud dragon tech, interesting

I thought that you could just Verte for a Red Eyes Fusion

I guess that it does add more bricks to your deck though

[faint wraith]

Yeah Verte adds three garnets to your deck, while in white forest you can just use the mud dragon tech

[faint wraith]

Sure you lose out on the effect to pop and burn, but it's still an untargetable, indestructible omni-negate who has decent synergy with wf because the spells will set themselves if you discard with dragoon

[quiet tiger]

What's the decklist for this white forest build?

[faint wraith]

Lemme go get it

[faint wraith]

Some of the staples are just cause I don't have the points for 3 (I would use 2 or 3 veiler over talents and I forgot to make a 3rd maxx c) but here is the general list. Effect veiler is searchable btw

Actually here's a better screenshot

[quiet tiger]

Currently thinking of making myself a runick white forest deck (please don't kill me) but I'd also like a more basic version

[faint wraith]

As long as you don't use floodgates runick isn't hated by me. And while I will hate you if you use them, white forest can use floodgates like skill drain effectively by flipping them on opp turn and sending it for cost on yours.

I run diabellestar in wf as an extender plus if I have a toy card (like toy soldier) she can bridge into full wf combo because people usually use negates on her and forget that toy soldier is the one who brings in the wf cards

[quiet tiger]

What are these two?

I have discovered what they are

[faint wraith]

Yeah

Visas Amritara can search reframing, and the other trap is just kinda there admittedly

Usually you use silhouette rabbit with it but I don't use that and just needed to fill space

And while not obvious at first, Diabellestar does have a purpose, as she can help enable the toy engine if you have nothing else plus bring out sinful spoils betrayal.

[faint wraith]

I keep forgetting that because of a glitch with substituting fusion materials you can't summon dragoon in story mode with mud dragon and albion

[raven fable]

white forest is my favourite engine for albaz

[faint wraith]

My favorite albion engine is white forest. Especially when you add melodious to it

[radiant spire]

I pulled an entire maliss core

And I made a profit

In the 3rd box I pulled 2 ice, 1 duo and 1 underground

Fucking baller

[faint wraith]

Wowie

[faint wraith]

Today I learned that if a trap monster is flipped face down (like with book of moon or Silvera's effect) it goes back to the spell and trap zone

[safe magnet]

I thought that they only do that for monster effects and not when they're sent as cost?

[faint wraith]

It's the other way around. The wording is "If this card is sent to activate a monster's effect". To activate a monster's effect, you have to pay the cost.

[safe magnet]

ohhhhh makes sense

[faint wraith]

All the white woods cards that send a spell/trap do so for cost.

[safe magnet]

... yeah.. true.. the Skill Drain outers..

[faint wraith]

However, sending it to summon like Diabellestar won't work because that's not activating the effect.

[faint wraith]

Even though it works well I will not use it

I refuse

[safe magnet]

Use it, Anti Spell, Gozen or whatever your deck can run, RUN ALL THE FLOODGATES

STUN THE OPPONENT

DO IT

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-laughs-in-evil-laughing-myah-myaah-dasmemeistgut-gif-5356566587527840753

wait.. you can run Secret Village too

You know what you have to do

[faint wraith]

This may not send, but

White woods bullying someone who probably just bought three dragon maid structure decks

[safe magnet]

You should also play with the Runick cards

[faint wraith]

Nah. Even the discord agrees that secret village is too inefficient

[faint wraith]

There is actually a wf runick variant

[safe magnet]

I know

it's more popular in the TCG than the Toy Box variant

It runs a ton of Floodgates

[faint wraith]

I prefer toy box. It's more fun

[safe magnet]

Since when was Yu-Gi-Oh about fun

[faint wraith]

Since I've been able to summon the dragooner without the frustration of bricks

[safe magnet]

ughhhhhh they have Baronne in Master Duel

Why Konami... Why

[faint wraith]

Mannadium de fleur as it's sometimes called

[safe magnet]

and you guys can make it during the other player's turn with the trap

and dragoon

[faint wraith]

Master Duel is kind of like Konami's testing grounds

[safe magnet]

or Zapper Shrimp

[faint wraith]

Not with the trap, with diabell

The trap can only summon white forest monsters.

[safe magnet]

? The trap spams and synchros?

[safe magnet]

oh.. damn that's ass

[faint wraith]

Not when you have a synchro that flips the whole opp field face down

[faint wraith]

How we make barrone on opp turn is this

Opp activates an effect. Diabell sends spell and summons formula synchron. Formula synchron then synchros with Diabell to make Baronne

[raven fable]

its fun when you dont play yugioh with yugioh cards

like flower cardian and that very complicated pendulum deck with 2 fields spells

i mean vaylantz

[safe magnet]

Damn, fusion and link decks be thriving against you

[safe magnet]

Or Zapper Shrimp

that's also an option

[faint wraith]

Link decks suffer completely- plus fusion decks as of late tend to use monster effects to fuse.

[safe magnet]

hm true, as a Salad player I actually have a pretty good match up against White Forest, when I draw some non engine

[faint wraith]

Cause if I flip your ns face down or whatever you use for link material it's pretty joever

[safe magnet]

only if you do it at the correct time

I usually go for less non link plays when trying to break a white forest board

so long as I get to a wolf I kinda win

I fucked up today I would've won against a White forest player, but made the mistake of blocking my wolf zone

[faint wraith]

What board are you usually playing into against wf?

[safe magnet]

Visas 3 sets, their synchro 8 and another synchro that I don't remember

Also island pops face downs too

if I open FKs I cook hard

[faint wraith]

That's kinda weak for wf.

What variant?

[safe magnet]

That's their avarage board, with like 3 cards in hand

[safe magnet]

Toybox

they don't go uninterrupted

[faint wraith]

Still that's kinda weak. Usually there's at least one extra disruption. Also is this tcg or md?

[safe magnet]

Mostly TCG, but I've seen them end on this in MD too

[safe magnet]

also that's an omni negate, a board flip and, their trap, 1 unknown set, 3 cards in hand and I think that they had a light and dark angel, how is that weak?

[faint wraith]

The trap is the board flip, diabelle goes to baronne in md for omni, visis trap omni, hold on brb

[safe magnet]

They have this trap

[faint wraith]

Yeah usually we leave either a lvl 4 tuner or a level 2 out and summon what we don't have to synchro into Sylvera for the flip.

[safe magnet]

makes sense

I also played against a guy running Centurion with these

which was interesting

[faint wraith]

Depending on what we play we usually try to either go into dragoon or silhouette rabbit for extra negates. Though taking interruption into account yeah that's usually the average board (as in what you described is)

[faint wraith]

Centurion wf is considered the best variant, but it's still worse than pure centurion plus they kinda conflict with resource management.

[safe magnet]

I mean all you need to start your centurion engine is a single fieldspell

which wf doesn't have, so it's pretty good

[faint wraith]

But oftentimes they conflict with what you want to normal summon or what you want to use your discards on. And a lot of times it ends up just being Centurion more than white woods.

[safe magnet]

true true

[faint wraith]

Meanwhile the toybox engine helps to enable wf rather than do completely different lines. And while one specific guy in the discord keeps arguing "But the toy engine is just dead in hand if you don't open wf" he clearly doesn't understand how ratios work as I almost never have a moment where toy is sitting dead in my hand.

Because if you have toy box then toy soldier can search out Silva of the white woods

[safe magnet]

Well I mean technically so long as you open a toy box it's never dead

isn't Soldier + toybox literally full white forest combo?

[faint wraith]

Yep

And add in Diabellstar as an extra way to kickstart your toy engine and you're even more consistent

[safe magnet]

TB is just custom White Forest support, literally no other deck (Dark Magician is not playable so let's not consider it in this discussion) uses them

[safe magnet]

When Azaminas come to MD White Forest will likely get another buff

[faint wraith]

I kinda wanna restart my wf alt because I wasted a lot of ur points on stuff I don't need or use but I also don't wanna leave it cause I have a royal diabell

[faint wraith]

Yeah I just saw azamina ellzete and that shit will be HUGE for it

[safe magnet]

It's also really funny how Konami released the Trickstar support that will be coming March next year in the TCG so early in Master Duel

[faint wraith]

Eh. Trickstar is pretty fun

[safe magnet]

Yeah, but why did they release the support in Master Duel before the TCG

what's the point of having unreleased cards when so many of the current TCG strategies are not in MD

The Fiendsmith engine for example

[faint wraith]

Maybe to test if the burn deck will be too strong

[safe magnet]

they have the OCG for that

pretty sure that the Trickstar support is already out there

I might be wrong though

[faint wraith]

Md is a more volatile game state so it's probably there to see what people cook up

[safe magnet]

cuz the OCG has Seventh Tachyon

and in the TCG the Trickstars will be in the same set as Tachyon

[faint wraith]

Oh yeah can you show me or tell me what the other Azaminas cards do?

[safe magnet]

uhh only 2 of the fusions are currently played

one is an omni negate and the other searches a Sinful Spoils card

[faint wraith]

Not just the fusions but also the main decks

Really just the cards that'll be good for wf

[safe magnet]

The way you get to them is through a card called Sinful Spoils of Deception, it tributes a monster from hand or field to search a Hallowed Azamina

it is the fusion spell

it reveals an Azamina from the ED and then you have to send from your hand or field sinful spoils spells or traps for each 4 levels the fusion has to summon it

you round it up

so 6 is 1 spell for example

[faint wraith]

Wait, so for the cost of two spells (the fusion spell and one more) you get a level six fusion?

[safe magnet]

These are the two played fusions

[safe magnet]

yeah, basically it technically is just a poly

it also recycles itself by shuffling an Amazina fusion from Grave into the extra

and you can use it again

[faint wraith]

That's pretty good huh-

Also isn't there a floodgate?

[safe magnet]

so you use Deception to get the hallowed, summon the first fusion, it adds a sinful, you link it off or something, then you shuffle it with Hallowed, add the hallowed and send the sinful to summon the second fusion

and deception resets itself in the end phase

[faint wraith]

Interesting interesting

[safe magnet]

yeah, it's kinda broken

[safe magnet]

Expect the azaminas to have these two fusions and deception as URs

[faint wraith]

Damn..

[safe magnet]

You need 3 deception btw

[faint wraith]

Sadness...

[safe magnet]

you can play 1 for a budget version though

is Diabellstar limited in MD?

[faint wraith]

She's at 3 in md

[safe magnet]

then yeah you can get away with playing one

and 3 diabells

[faint wraith]

Probably because we don't have all the crazy sinful spoils that you do

[safe magnet]

She and Wanted are at 3 in the TCG

[quiet tiger]

is diabellze any good

[safe magnet]

Yes

[faint wraith]

Wanted is limited

In md

[safe magnet]

In Chimera only basically

[safe magnet]

yep

you're better off than us

[faint wraith]

Not in white forest because she's not really searchable aside from one sinful spoils trap

[quiet tiger]

[safe magnet]

She's literally only used in Chimera and is absolutely a busted card

[faint wraith]

Diabell on the other hand-

[quiet tiger]

don't the azaminas have some currently ocg only card that is extremely busted when combining a diabellze and diabellstar or something like that

[safe magnet]

They have a main deck monster that we in the TCG don't yet have

[faint wraith]

What are the main deck azaminas monsters?

[safe magnet]

uhhhh ok so these cards

are OCG only for now

[faint wraith]

Aww..

I saw Elzette's effect. What about the other one?

[safe magnet]

uhh ok so these four are first

And then there's these..

WHY IS ALL OF THIS IN SUPREME DARKNESS

I ALREADY HATE THIS SET AND IT IS COMING OUT IN LIKE 2 MONTHS

this should be all of the Azamina support

I think

[raven fable]

YES

MORE FLOODGATES

[safe magnet]

😭

I hate Azamina so muchhhhhh

[faint wraith]

God damn that's a lot-

I know what I'll be pulling from

[safe magnet]

Save us Goblin Bikers

Save us

[faint wraith]

Can't target

[safe magnet]

Also give me a moment, I'll make you change your mind really quickly

[faint wraith]

You cannot

Well I may just use some of the sinful spoils and Azamina Elzette

I still want it to be mainly white forest

[safe magnet]

just gotta find it

Whelp I can't find the image, but this works

The OCG with these cards currently has Maliss Memento and Ryzeal dominating the meta

Azamina cards were ranked pretty low

oh yeah and Tenpai

So yeah

The format is not gonna be fun (except for Maliss)

I love cyberse

[quiet tiger]

what does maliss even do

[safe magnet]

Shifter + just Cyberse shit

[quiet tiger]

... which means?

[safe magnet]

They will banish as much as possible

they have a ton of gas

amazing recovery

a good loop

multiple searchable resetable traps

and are generally a good engine

lots of advantage too

and due to them being Cyberse they get access to the good Cyberse locked cards

they can put up a decent board

[faint wraith]

Never stopped me (the lyrilusc player)

[safe magnet]

They mostly end on a Terrahertz iirc

[quiet tiger]

one time i played against them they ended on like... dotscaper and accesscode and i simply OTKed them

[safe magnet]

the OCG has mathmechs which also buffs them a ton

[quiet tiger]

in omega

[safe magnet]

Yeah, the player fucked up

Their board is usually at least 1 set Maliss trap, 4 cards in hand, a Terrahertz, potentially a colinked firewall

a spell negate in grave and Terra sends another negate on your turn

Being the Mereorologic Aggregator

[quiet tiger]

the what

[safe magnet]

This fucker

[quiet tiger]

that... doesnt look very good

[safe magnet]

It's absolutely busted

Ryzeal also abuses this shit

throughout a match this shit in Ryzeal cooks

and against Maliss they OTK you the next turn so it doesn't matter

you're not going through a spell negate, bounces, 4 cards in hand, a set trap, a banish, a target negate and a 7500 body

[quiet tiger]

skill drain

probably

hopefully

[safe magnet]

their monsters are pretty high attack though

[radiant spire]

maliss is broken in omega

Like, in the literal sense

Their traps cannot banish to activate so it just, fizzles and does nothing (for me at least)

[radiant spire]

the bounces usually aren't a part off the end board, as its mostly used to bounce back a mal in order for chessy to banish it for the draw

So its a spell neg, 7 cards in hand, reborn trap for white binder (which becomes banish 3 from grave), a target neg and a banish from the trap numero dos

this is from 1 dormouse

but, it's easy to interrupt because the deck lacks extenders, but playing around the traps banish for cost is a bit tricky. A good maliss player will set first comitting to a play

[safe magnet]

They bounce their own guys with firewall?

[radiant spire]

Yes

[safe magnet]

huh interesting

[radiant spire]

1 maliss to banish for chessy

[safe magnet]

Doesn't it rely on some like generic cyberse extenders?

Code of Soul and such

[radiant spire]

and the second may be a discarded handtrap or a bystial

[radiant spire]

Of course it doesnt rely

You can also play bystials

Those can be extenders you get back for free anyway

let me pass a list holdon

[safe magnet]

I gotta watch some OCG replays to get a better grasp of the deck, I still am struggling to figure out how they end on multiple link 4s and 5s

[safe magnet]

1 cynet backdoor?

[radiant spire]

its not required

Im just testing it out

[safe magnet]

I know, the card is pretty good in the deck

probably better than mining since it's less of a minus and dodges imperm and veiler

[radiant spire]

Its a niché that Im def cutting later for space reasons

[safe magnet]

and doesn't search level 4 or lower so you can get high level cyberse with this

Duplex is a card I'm experimenting with

Balancer Lord too

[radiant spire]

Ew

In a non-mal deck I hope

[safe magnet]

No?

What's the problem with running generic cyberse in maliss?

[radiant spire]

balancer lord 2024 💀

[safe magnet]

if it gets banished it spams a monster and gives you an additional normal summon

I mean, it's literally 2 extra bodies?

moreso 1 and a half but still

[radiant spire]

Dont cope too hard please

You could be playng 3 additional handtraps instead of trying that outdated stuff

[safe magnet]

I'm playing it at 1

[radiant spire]

Its more consistent to keep your malices in engine, adding more stuff can screw things up

[safe magnet]

well I mean there's a lot of searchers for cyberse monsters

mining, sarc, backdoor and so on

Also I'm just testing things out, I don't even have the deck physically yet

Oh yeah

Also the banlist is coming out after the finals of the YCS

They'll show it on stream

[radiant spire]

mhm

[faint wraith]

So when resetting my alt for white forest because I wanted to reverse bad point spending...

I was chosen by the puppets. I'm still making white forest but I made gimmick puppet ftk first

[faint wraith]

And then I decided to craft a Diabellstar-

First game of the account in rookie 1. Hit the gimmick puppet ftk. Kinda feel bad but also don't really

[grizzled coral]

banlist soon

ripbozo tenpai

[safe magnet]

The banlist dropped

[faint wraith]

Oh damn I didn't expect the OSS ban

[safe magnet]

Pankratops at 3 is pretty cool

Phantom at 1 is dope

Kimen and Chundra to one are perfect

The OSS ban is pretty radical

But Gates at 3 is unacceptable

Should've stayed at 1

[faint wraith]

Leave the sacred beasts alone :(

[north robin]

I think he’s talking about another GX monster that’s been abusing it for their own end board shenanigans…

[faint wraith]

While I don't actually care about Sacred Beasts, I think that if you just ban/limit Samsara D. Luffy Yubel immediately loses at least SOME traction, especially with phantom limited to one.

[faint wraith]

Diabellstar + Toybox made this (it would have dragoon but story mode doesn't allow it)

[faint wraith]

The best part about wf is how diverse it can be while still being wf.

There are centurion variants, labrynth variants, spright variants, runick variants, toy variants, I'm working on adding a small despia engine (cartisia is a light spellcaster tuner), and others that I'm probably forgetting.

[faint wraith]

There's even metalfoes and witchcrafter variants

This deck is the embodiment of diversity. And it's not like fiendsmith where fiendsmith is used as an engine in everything, wf is used in tandem with these other archetypes and makes them work in their own ways.

[safe magnet]

People play Quem, Cartesia and Grang with the ToyBox engine

[faint wraith]

Damn I thought I was doing something new

[safe magnet]

Nope, the Dark Magician players did it before you

[faint wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[faint wraith]

Well at least according to the discord my way of using it is unique

[faint wraith]

Me and my bullshit

[radiant spire]

OSS was NOT needed

Kaimen AND chundra were just overkill

Phantom to one is GOOD but spirit gates to 3 was not needed

Barrage back is baller but I want drident back

[faint wraith]

I love bullying pile users

[safe magnet]

I agree for these, but the top ones were perfect honestly, would not complain about those

[radiant spire]

I am complaining

OSS was just so unneeded

deck was already struggling this much

[faint wraith]

Do you play rescue ace or something?

[radiant spire]

wanted or diabell was the better option here but because of their azamina reveals they have to keep those around

[faint wraith]

Is wanted unlimited in the tcg?

[radiant spire]

if snake eyes HAD to be hit then flamberge was the better option

Limits the link spamming, still keeps the deck at a good enough power level

[safe magnet]

OSS killed the bridges though

also Azamina did make it super abusable

[faint wraith]

Simply use Cartesia to bridge from white woods into Centurion

[faint wraith]

Something fun about crystal wing synchro dragon's negate is that since it also boosts its attack you can use it during the damage step (rip chundra)

[safe magnet]

... That isn't the reason why you can use it in the Damage Step though

Anything that negates the ACTIVATION of a card can be used in the damage step

If it negated the Effect of a card it wouldn't be able to use its effect in the damage step since the attack buff is the result of the negation and not the effect itself

[faint wraith]

Oh. Then would gamma work on chundra?

[safe magnet]

I think so yeah?

[safe magnet]

The Judge's Lounge (Facebook group with judges where people ask questions) says that it can do that yeah

[radiant spire]

That was the fun part of OSS

The better option was to limit or ban bonfire, because the problem at hand now is ryzeal

[safe magnet]

No way that they'd hit their newest money maker

don't be silly

and I mean, hitting bonfire would've barely hit Ryzeal, they still have Small World and will be getting Tachyon

[radiant spire]

Thats exactly why they SHOULD hit bonfire

Besides, bonfire got reprinted in RA03

Im not being silly, Im projecting the better option

Ryzeal is perfectly fine without bon

[safe magnet]

But it would be such a hard nerf for Volcanics and decks that still use a small Snake-Eyes package

[radiant spire]

Were talking about less bon but with OSS remember

Meaning 3 diabell and 3 wanted are in play

Hitting bonfire limits the power of ryzeal and pure snake eye, and allows decks like TG, volcanic and R-ACE to still use diabell/wanted as a starter with OSS

This also means diabell and oss will maintain some of their value

But they chose the worst possible option

Playwise and investment wise

[faint wraith]

I managed to get to this board in the eldich solo gate

[cold grotto]

played a 7 turn grind against labyrinth going first as swordsoul, god that deck is so unbearable when they draw d barrier and you dont have ash

only reason I won was because I drew 3 imperms like the good player i am

[faint wraith]

How would ash help against d-barrier?

[cold grotto]

it doesnt, it helps against big welcome

[faint wraith]

Ah

[raven fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77NUVJYAI0

my goat

[faint wraith]

Lyrilusc the strongest deck

[raven fable]

shouldve have made the biggest zeus as a flex

[faint wraith]

I still need to craft downerd and Zeus

I also could've hit them for 4k with assembled and then crashed recital into the kaiju for the finisher, but I like just pecking their eyes out with assembled.

Also fun fact if you have life hack in your hand all you need to win is to make assembled nightningale with two materials and it's gg

[faint wraith]

My favorite deck as even if I can't make an assembled nightningale I can just say fuck you neither of us win

[raven fable]

wym

[faint wraith]

My usual otk combo is to get two recital starlings out and assembled nightningale while boosting the attack of either an opp monster or a kaiju I used, as recital makes it so both players take battle damage from it. If you use assembled's ability, only your opponent will take damage.

So as long as I can get two recitals out while boosting the opp monster I can just say fuck it we draw

[raven fable]

ic

can you make it just to make draw turbo?

[faint wraith]

Draw turbo?

[raven fable]

yeah just draw turbo no one wins turbo

people did that with self destruct button

and rings of destruction b4 of its erratas

[faint wraith]

Ohh you mean draw as in a duel draw not draw a card

I very much could just make it draw turbo so long as I open either a kaiju, lava golem, or my opponent just has a 2800 body on the field.

[faint wraith]

I LOVE LYRILUSC ‼️‼️

[raven fable]

[faint wraith]

Seto Kaiba aa deck

[raven fable]

they show me their deck, i was confused like tf is their game plan

i gave them true name, they gave me you're finished

i wasnt sure if that was a warning or not

[faint wraith]

Is it like a draft or something?

[raven fable]

it was ranked

in silver thats to be granted people dont care what they play and play it for fun

it had to work once or twice

[grand cave]

Or bots

Or some absolute monkey on typewriter deck

Btw what are yalls thoughts on rush duel

[faint wraith]

Could be a masochist challenge or something

[faint wraith]

Haven't played

[raven fable]

i havent encoutered a sim for it so none at all

but i heard pot of greed funny

[faint wraith]

Wow those are some nice snake eyes and rescue ace cards you have there doing all the work for you

[raven fable]

cant wait to try out maliss, i love stupid mechanics

[safe magnet]

You will not be disappointed, the deck is very strong

[raven fable]

i dont really care about strenght or not, i play hungry burger and flower cardian the only reason why i find win with them is because oppponents dont know what they do, and whenever they do know i pull witchcraft and win

[faint wraith]

The unfortunate thing about Lyrilusc is that even though pretty much no one plays it, people still know what it does due to it being a really good deck with tri brigade long ago.

[raven fable]

i dont think i ever faced lyrilusc

[faint wraith]

They're really fun. But because people used to play against it some people actually know what cards to hand trap or destroy.

[faint wraith]

Like in this one I lost because the opponent knew to use one of the rescue ace guys to flip specifically cobalt sparrow face down so I couldn't use it as xyz material, preventing me from getting targetting protection.

[raven fable]

oof

[raven fable]

the way you counter hungry burger is you put your monsters in defence bc then they cant be tributed or you negate them once if the hand is average

and flower cardian, its maxx c. maxx c is THE counter to it

[grand cave]

Is it

[raven fable]

if you dont know what flower cardians do, when you summon a card you draw a card and if its a flower cardian monster i think you keep it but if its a spell or a trap you discard it and sent it to gy

and half of the monsters are if you have a lower level flower cardian you can special summon it

[grand cave]

I know but theyre one of the few that can deck you out

[raven fable]

and the other half is when you have this specific card on the field tribute it and special summon this card

and when you wanna synchro summon with them, they are counted as level 2

so for the optimal board being summon boardefly then go into moonflowerviewing after that into lightflare and addiontinally summon ligthshower

[faint wraith]

Flower Cardians are the ones you LEAST want to maxx c unless you're running at least 5 different hand traps.

They will deck you out otherwise

[raven fable]

oh yeah i got a funny replay how do i share it?

[faint wraith]

Screen record it and post that in here

[raven fable]

gonna take a bit

[faint wraith]

My favorite Melodious combo

Play ostinato
Opponent scoops

[grand cave]

Speaking of flower cardian have you tried de synchro with em

[grand cave]

ahem
Normal summon light elementsaber
Dm player scoops instantly

[faint wraith]

Or, play ostinato
Opponent ash blossoms it
Activate first movement solo, summon refrain.
Opp imperms her.
Activate couplet
Opp scoops

[raven fable]

wym? like going backwards?

[faint wraith]

Melodious is fun because it has so many ways of getting to the ultimate "Break my board" challenge through multiple hand traps.

Like this board has

Destruction protection
Targetting protection
Battle protection
Banish 3 from gy
Non-target bounce up to 4 face up cards (but usually 2 if you have to use it before the end phase)

All off of one Ostinato

If you had first movement solo, refrain, or couplet in hand instead you could still make a board like this just without Schuberta (the banish 3 from gy)

[faint wraith]

I have earned a new proudest achievement

I beat 60 card branded after they resolved That Grass Looks Greener

Schuberta wrecks sheer DESTRUCTION on them (and any gy reliant deck)

I need to post the ganeplay in two separate parts

Fuck do you mean, discord you've taken files bigger than this before-

Let's see if this works

There's the branded replay

[raven fable]

its in this shitty quality because i had to upload it to youtube and then download it, thanks sony

its a long replay alright

[faint wraith]

Oh I thought you were gonna deck them out

[faint wraith]

Dude I just posted a 4:30 replay against branded yours ain't long

[raven fable]

i dont think i had the materials

in theory i think? i can do a infinite

if i keep reclycling willow

[faint wraith]

It is very possible for flower cardian to deck you out under maxx c, and you need like at least 4 hand traps drawn to not lose.

Also while playing through Nibiru is impressive, you did go second against cyber dragons

[raven fable]

funny interaction, appolo doesnt do anything against this

none of them have a once per turn

[faint wraith]

That's why you don't want to maxx c them unless they're waaay mid combo. It's the same reasoning as why you don't maxx c danger darkworld.

[faint wraith]

Schuberta is super fucking strong yet so simple at the same time and I love it

[faint wraith]

Mathmech always open circular. I am comvinced they're using like a duel link skill to make sure they always open circular.

[raven fable]

its mathmech they will find a way to get it no matter the cost

[faint wraith]

No it's not even that they get it or search it or anything

They just have it in their opening hand.

[raven fable]

yeah.

[grizzled coral]

Yo nice

Also the ulti foiling on that card still baffles me

Genuinely one of the worst ever

[raven fable]

any tenpai specialist?

[faint wraith]

Tenpai doesn't need to think much so I can call myself a specialist despite only having played it for a couple days

[raven fable]

how fucked is tenpai against buster blader

[faint wraith]

Depends on how many board breakers you draw

[raven fable]

how many of them do you usually run?

[faint wraith]

Yes

[raven fable]

which ones

so i can just prohib or crossout

[faint wraith]

Droplet, lightning storm, harpie's feather duster, basically all the common board breakers.

[faint wraith]

I actually just had a game against Yuya Sakaki. Bro opened Stargazer Magician, Timegazer Magician, and Odd Eyes Pendulum Dragon

[raven fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDAlxoPCu9w

LETS FUCKING GO

its actually happening, i am more interested in albaz then sky strikers because sky strikers had the whole having a manga thing

[raven fable]

oh my

live twin support

[faint wraith]

Hell yeah

[grizzled coral]

dead channel

happy new year tho

[faint wraith]

Happy new year. I got tremendous luck in two different gacha games today

[grizzled coral]

yo nice

[north robin]

Happy New Years Yu-Gi-Oh players!

Tis the year of the sinister serpent

[faint wraith]

Wait I just realized

One of the gacha games was Fate Grand Order, and part of the huge luck was pulling Ibuki from a banner. Ibuki is a snake deity.

[north robin]

I guess that shows that it’ll be a great year for you since you pulled a snake

I think.

[faint wraith]

Yeah. She's one of the best units in the game for a type of team that I happen to have the other needed piece for.

[raven fable]

yep Happy new year everyone

[quiet tiger]

what the FUCK

[north robin]

Wow.
The royal traptrix flex

[faint wraith]

Damn they're not even playing pure. Shame on them.

[north robin]

Eh, Ragnaraika gives them a bit more than just their traps.
They get a bit more board presence as well as extra draws off butterfly and Chain coils gives them a monster effect lock in hand which can help against handtraps/extenders

[faint wraith]

Yeah but at what point is it traptrix and not plant soup

[north robin]

It’s more like a way for traptrix to extend farther

Ragnaraika Is basically the Tri-brigade of Reptiles, Plants, and insects

[faint wraith]

Show me the endboard of that deck and show me the traptrix cards

[north robin]

Probably Sera, Link-5 Ragnaraika, maybe one of the XYZ 4 traptrix

[faint wraith]

Most of the time they don't have Sera in the endboard. They just link her away into jasmine.

[north robin]

I guess it depends on the hand

[faint wraith]

I have never seen Ragnaraika variants end with more than one traptrix card. They just use traptrix as a way to get more bodies for other plants.

[north robin]

I guess it depends on the variants then depending on whether they’d be more focused on traptrix or generic good plant stuff

[cold grotto]

This just sounds like bad traptrix

And why is there a random obelisk

[north robin]

Flex probably.

You can actually get enough advantage with 1 evil seed to just tribute summon it with three monsters on board.
Just have the link-2 with Stag Beetle & Evil seed to make your Obelisk by normal summoning it turn 1

Is it good?
It’s a non-targetable beat stick…other than that just non-target remove it.

[raven fable]

i mean

you can just tribute summon him

it would be the most out of hand thing but i would surrender at sight of it

[faint wraith]

Why is Ashen so expensive for being so ass? I'm not planning on playing them but I still recognize that it's pretty insane

[north robin]

The answer is quite simple. (I think)
They ran out of ideas on which cards to make URs for this pack

I guess they are saving the UR space for fiendsmith in the next pack

[faint wraith]

Yeah but it feels criminal for such a mid deck be so expensive like they're trying to get people to not build it

Lyrilusc is honestly a good deck even on it's own. And the archetype itself only has 2 urs, with only one of them needing to be played at 2 (3 is preferred but you can make do with two). And the out of archetype urs not including staples are like 3 ed monsters that are standard. Everything else is optional.

It's insane how Lyrilusc actually has 0 main deck urs

[raven fable]

sadly hungry burger is somewhat expensive

[faint wraith]

If it was good at the time of release I can get the tax. But if it just came out today I would have a problem with it.

[raven fable]

which one do you mean

[faint wraith]

Like Nouvelles aren't too good, so if they were expensive coming out today it'd suck. But were they good when they released?

[raven fable]

ogey they arent *that * expensive but kinda are

the field spell is UR and you want 3 off, then theres the pendulum who you also want 3 off

and then the ritual who i got 2 off because it isnt that crucial but still enough to have 2 off

i have the less expensive version with impcantaion

herald would be a more expensive

[raven fable]

ever since ive learnt , ive replaced okay by

[radiant spire]

Went 5-0 with maliss today

Top cut

2-0 runick azamina stun
2-0 merlantean
2-1 HERO
2-0 White forest snake eye diabell sinful spoil centurion pile
2-1 merlantean

[raven fable]

cant wait for maliss to be tier 2 or tier 1 and be unenjoyable for me

[faint wraith]

What's funny about Maliss is that it completely invalidates Runick cause they just give you extra extension by banishing your cards

[radiant spire]

That is exactly what happened

I was desperate for an extender

"Underground banish bunny from gy?"
"Chain destruction, pop, banish 4"
banishes bnuy

:3

[faint wraith]

As long as Maliss exists and is popular, I feel like Runick will never make a big splash.

[raven fable]

does maliss have a way to play necrobface?

[radiant spire]

Probably but it's not worth the try

[raven fable]

would be really funny

[grizzled coral]

yoo gj

[faint wraith]

Average rookie 2 Lab vs. Yubel game

[faint wraith]

Sorry I killed the chat

[raven fable]

[grizzled coral]

Its okay...

Started playing MD again a few days ago

[raven fable]

you like 2 maxx c's?

[grizzled coral]

No1 has activated either charmy so far

But I've been playing against it in tcg for a long time so doesnn bother me

[quiet tiger]

i love gimmick puppet now

[grizzled coral]

cringe...

[quiet tiger]

[faint wraith]

Not Yu-Gi-Oh but in Fate Grand Order I managed to beat what's considered the second hardest boss on global in two triee (the first was lost because I didn't know what I was up against and he used a turn one special that wiped my frontline, but in attempt two I had the means to defend against it) and DAMN IT WAS STRESSFUL

[raven fable]

did you play it after or before the support

[quiet tiger]

Wdym

[raven fable]

did you play gimmick puppet before it got the support or after

[quiet tiger]

After? I guess

[raven fable]

[faint wraith]

Only like two people played gimmick pupper before the support

[quiet tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172544944897019945/1331031192677519452/image0.jpg?ex=679022e5&is=678ed165&hm=9fc6e083328ae5fe36f6d3a834f73707dce1df2fa00eababaf498e387e74f2a6&

[cold grotto]

opened 1.5 SUDA boxes today

best thing i got was a secret elzette

so sad

[safe magnet]

I've opened like 4 packs in total and got 2 A Baos from them

and a Test Bear

[grizzled coral]

Wtf

Gz

[raven fable]

so appearently theres time chronicles event, all of my favourite decks are banned in one way or another. so i am playing ojama mellfy

[grizzled coral]

got m1 with vaalmonica

Probably the worst deck ive done this witb

[cold grotto]

congratz

[north robin]

Congrats on the getting to masters with angle and devl deck

[north robin]

Greensmith is coming to MD soon.
This will do something.

[raven fable]

why is maliss so good in YCS

i just want funny bad deck with wierd effects

[cold grotto]

???

[safe magnet]

I mean, Arcana Force got support

[faint wraith]

I actually don't know what all Maliss does-

All I know is it can plus off of banishinf by special summoning banished monsters

[raven fable]

neither do i but i do know it each card has a effect when banished

[faint wraith]

What do their boards usually end on? Like what disruptions? Also I hear while the top decks are like TOP top, they're some of the healthiest top decks we've seen.

[quiet tiger]

iirc they can pay lp to special themselves when banished and shit out a ton of links while also being cyberse

[faint wraith]

Oh cyberse pile

How about Ryzeal? All I know about them is they make a LOT of rank 4s and the field spell rivals Sangan Summoning for one of the best field spells in the game.

[raven fable]

yep

[grizzled coral]

excited about it for vaal (dimonno is a light fiend :D)

[grizzled coral]

field spell isnt a starter and its a 1 of so i wouldnt say its close to sangan but its definitely crazy

ryzeal is super cool though

i like it way more than maliss

maliss feature matches r pretty boring

open lancea or lose :D

and they combo for 30 minutes

then game 3 ends by them gaining life in time

:D

[faint wraith]

Lancea is actually the only handtrap I own as I have like five random packs worth of cards and Lancea was one of them

[grizzled coral]

lol nice

[north robin]

I forgot one of the scales was a light fiend. Now I have a reason to go for the new pack

[grizzled coral]

You play vaal?

[north robin]

Yeah, I had it built when they came out in MD

I thought it’d be a fun deck to try out considering they only have 1 main deck UR (It’s a three of but it’s manageable) while the rest of the stuff is SRs

[grizzled coral]

Prob one of my fav decks

[north robin]

I’ll probably pick it up more when Greensmith arrives with his green machine

Yeah, I like the deck aesthetically as well as its art as well

Pendulums that depend on your chooses with a demon and angel on your shoulder is pretty neat for a concept

[raven fable]

Damn, that's really cheap

What were they thinking pricing that

I had to do like 3 three of URs for hungry burger and its mid at best

For nemlaria yosenju it was also 3 three of URs and its good at otk and towering

[faint wraith]

How's the greensmith gaming coming along? (Also the sky striker gate is really cool)

[north robin]

Still strange how they handle pricing in master duel.

[north robin]

I haven't gotten to build it yet though I'll see what builds I can do

[faint wraith]

Apparently without Lacrima (the maindeck monster) you can't do any two bodies makes fiendsmith but you can do any three bodies, and while tract needs your normal summon opening engraver does not

[raven fable]

whats greensmith

[north robin]

I thought you could with that goddess link-2 card since it’s a light fiend

[raven fable]

HUH

tf is greensmith

the only thing came up is a decklist

[faint wraith]

Yeah but summoning Engraver off of Requiem and then what? You don't have the extra body you need to get value off of the engine. But with an extra body you can actually do the plays to get a rank 6 or Desire

[faint wraith]

Greensmith is just a silly name for Fiendsmith. An engine that's rampant in the tcg cause of it's splashability (any two bodies is full fiendsmith combo) and we just got it in master duel, albeit a bit weaker since we don't have it's best extender.

[north robin]

Alright, I see.

[raven fable]

i know what fiendsmith is, thats why i was confused

didnt fiendsmith got kinda bodied few months ago?

[faint wraith]

However, if you open engraver you discard it for tract, tract summin Lurie, lurie requiem, requiem summon engraver, etc

[faint wraith]

I dunno about the tcg (I don't play it I just go off of what I hear) but in md all they did was semi-limit engraver.

[raven fable]

did they release the second maxx c yet?

[faint wraith]

They released Fuwaloss and Purelia and semi-limited the roach

Also hey haha wouldn't it be funny if you guys used my code so I could get a branded deck guys it'd be hilarious-

18f13f08

[raven fable]

birb you are expert would vaalmonica work with nemlaria

alternatively i am comsidering building spyral for potentially extremely funny deck out

by either mulcharmy or maxx c

[faint wraith]

Depends. You want to banish all of your extra deck face-down to use nemlaria's effect, but Vaalmonica needs their extra deck monsters after a while building up counters. So you'd often end up needing to choose one or the other. Maybe with the right setup? But I don't know what that setup is.

[faint wraith]

It would be funny, but I have not touched spyral (though I have considered it) so I don't actually know what it's capable of through handtraps.

[raven fable]

with nemlaria when you just active effect you banish cards, monsters banish 1 mostly for effect, her continous banishes 2 to search 2 level 10 beast (this is why yosenju works with this deck) and has a tower like ability where if nemlaria monsters would be destroyed you just banish one, with niether soft and hard once per turn

not the search just the protection

[faint wraith]

Yes, but in order to use Nemleria's effect you have to have 0 cards in the extra deck. Sure you can then shuffle some back, but it could disrupt your plays with the other portion. It's a neat idea, and definitely worth trying now that I think about it more. I don't really know the synergy, but I can see how they wouldn't really interfere with each other too much.

[raven fable]

i also run and would more copies of pot desires if it werent limited because nemlarias effect is just any card that is banished without restriction when you banish your extra deck you can return 5 cards back to deck with pot of desires it goes higher

although the continuous spell does lock you out special summoning from extra deck when you use it

[faint wraith]

Yeah that's why I'm not too sure on the synergy.

[raven fable]

whats vaalmonica win con?

[faint wraith]

I'm pretty sure it's getting three of the demon counter things (like demon and angel the demon side) and summoning the link monster that can pop three on summon and attack three tumes with 2500 attack. I don't actually know.

[raven fable]

hm

and how do you get the counters?

[north robin]

Gaining and losing LP

Other their specific spell card

[raven fable]

wouldnt aroma mage work well with them?

or does it have to their cards?

[faint wraith]

I can't remember if vaalmonica has conditions for it like if it's from a certain effect or what

Taking damage is what gives you the demon counters though

[north robin]

It doesnt have any restriction except for the quick-play spells first effect to summon from deck

[raven fable]

what extra deck plays does it do

[faint wraith]

No clue. I've just been using my surface-level knowledge to explain stuff

[north robin]

2x Zebuffera
1x Duralume

1x Bagooska
1x Dugares

one of S:P and I:P I believe

[raven fable]

eeh

i dont know why but i got i:p alt but i dont think i ever used s:p

[grizzled coral]

In vaal specifically you play exciton instead of moon so you can get dimonno into grave (she would normally get sent to extra deck)

[north robin]

Oh, I see. Makes sense

[raven fable]

does vaal put pendulum monsters face up in extra deck?

[faint wraith]

The CORRECT way to use the fiendsmith engine

(Watching them play was a bit of a roller coaster cause I didn't know what the heck they were gonna do next)

[faint wraith]

Seven disruption endboard :3 (Crow was searched)

And Beryl was searched for follow up

[north robin]

Their quickly spell does that so you can have a pend to summon. It’s helpful for their copy effects and it’s mostly Dimonno your summoning off it

[grizzled coral]

every pendulum monster goes to face up ed when u link it off

[faint wraith]

Although something I've learned from playing Melodious is pendulum monsters need to hit the field in some way before they go to the ed. So for link summoning and synchro summoning and such it's not an issue, but be wary if you wanna fusion summon.

[raven fable]

thing is for nemlaria defenders you need a face up pendulum in your ed to special summon them

[faint wraith]

Just a face up pendulum? Or specifically Nemlaria?

[faint wraith]

Be me with Lyrilusc

Go first agaisnt Ashened player
Go full three card combo to end on UDF, 5 material Ensemblue Robin with Cobalt Sparrow and Beryl Canary under it, and bird call in hand for follow up along with two hand traps.
Opponent summons spearhead of the ashened and tributes it to target a card and return it to the hand
Long pause without targetting anything.
Scoops.

Bro was wondering why he couldn't target the 5 special summon bounce monster

[raven fable]

any to special summon, nemlaria to active the effect

[faint wraith]

I see. Though I don't remember if Nemlaria has any conditions for her effect like having no face up extra deck cards

[raven fable]

nope

you can stack 2 nemlarias on top of each other

[faint wraith]

Though you'd need to banish one in order to make the other work

[raven fable]

ye

[faint wraith]

While yes this is turn two the card I drew was Droll so technically this is a turn one board and probably the best one you can make incorporating fiendsmith into Lyrilusc without using your normal summon (Replace the wagtail with a Beryl for follow up I just thought I could use it this turn but was wrong. You could also replace Desirae with Caeser if you're worried about Nibiru cause you're doing fiendsmith stuff first)

It all makes 6 disruptions + follow up

7 if you use Caeser since you can use that twice

[faint wraith]

Also Nemlaria tech card. The Calculator. It gains attack based on the levels of all monsters times 300, and with how Nemlaria can summon out their level 10 monsters easily it becomes a big normal summon beat stick.

[raven fable]

yeah

[faint wraith]

Mathmech players cheat to have a duel links skill that says "Mathmech Circular will always appear in your opening hand" and that makes it frustrating yet so satisfying when you just absolutely destroy them.

Like it's just the greatest feeling to see them try to target stuff cause they can't be bothered to read and they just have to target their own monster.

[faint wraith]

The strongest wall there ever was

[safe magnet]

Packed this bunny today... After I already bought copies to complete my playset

[faint wraith]

Who's enjoying the anime deck event? Has anyone other than me just played with the deck they've been maining?

[safe magnet]

I had to play the Loaner Volcanic deck.. it is so ass with no FKs

[safe magnet]

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