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[faint wraith]

The problem I have with ash blossom is that someone could have a bad hand with only one way out, and then blossom can just ruin it because it covers so many options.

[north robin]

That is true though we’ve evolved to a point where some decks can play through an Ash with that one search or you can just bait it with a less resourceful card

Unfortunately it’s just a sign of powercreep within the game

Snake-eyes is a prime example…

[faint wraith]

I played snake eyes for a bit before my recent mistake of accidentally uninstalling somehow, and I decided fuck it. Since I have to go through all of this again I'll use a deck built around my favorite guy Zarc.

And yeah snake eyes is stupid

[north robin]

Especially since bonfire dropped in MD along with the recent fire king stuff

I only played the rescue ace variant and it dealt with an entire hand

[faint wraith]

Didn't use bonfire cause I didn't have the resources for it, but the deck itself was really good and fun.

But probably infuriating to other people

When I would take their ace and just put it in their spell/trap zone where they can't get it

Oh my god md randomly updated and the title screen was flamberge dragon that's funny

[north robin]

Flamburger ready to make you a spell and summon more advantage

[faint wraith]

Did you think you were safe with your negates?

Nuh uh

Fire girl who makes you tribute monsters who've activated their effects this turn to summon her

[north robin]

A funny way to get rid of hearld

Also can be searched in snake-eyes

[faint wraith]

Yup. With snake-eyes ash.

[north robin]

Yes. The TG Salamander searcher

[faint wraith]

I saw it was frequently used with Salamangreat but I could never figure out how to properly implement it

[north robin]

Probably for link extension with Ash to Poplar maybe?

I mean they are both fire though they cant go into their Baylenyx since they aren’t Cyberse .

[faint wraith]

I've seen it used with raging phoenix and sanctuary, but can't remember the other cards.

[north robin]

Sounds like it could be interesting if it’s viable depending on what you get

On your search with ash or your spoils summon target

[faint wraith]

Zarc's entry animation in md looks so cool man..

[north robin]

I forgot did the other Z-ARC pend get an animation as well

[faint wraith]

The new odd eyes one or the synchro one?

[north robin]

Different name (kinda. It’s treated as the og)

[faint wraith]

Yeah that guy has a summon animation

[north robin]

Neat

[faint wraith]

Though he's honestly kinda bad compared to the og

[north robin]

Really? I thought he’d be better considering he’s a 12 scale without a restriction

Also being treated as Z-arc himself

[faint wraith]

He doesn't really have anything to protect himself and if you don't have an open spot on your scale his effect doesn't put him there

[north robin]

Gotcha, makes sense

[faint wraith]

Og meanwhile wipes your opponent's field on summon, can't be targetted by opponent's card effects, can't be destroyed by card effects, and when he destroys your opponent's monster by battle you special summon a supreme king dragon monster from your extra deck

[north robin]

A pretty cool anime boss. Good protection though not the level of quite towers

[faint wraith]

Yeah you need gate magician in your p zone to stop him from getting banished, and even then if you have a non-target return to hand card he folds

Badass though

It took the whole fucking arc V cast to take him down

[north robin]

Sounds like it’d be exciting to watch at a normal pace (not just picking up what happens through Osmosis)

[faint wraith]

It's amazing to watch. If you haven't seen it, go watch it.

[north robin]

It’ll probably go on my list of shows I need to watch on a dart board

Mostly since I don’t see like going down my list in order

[faint wraith]

Mood. I highly recommend watching it.

[faint wraith]

Hey anyone in here who knows, I see tear being talked about with a card called Ishizu but I can't find anything in master duel both banned and unbanned. Is it a shortened name or something?

[grand cave]

Its reprints of cards that a character used

Ishizu is the character’s name

[faint wraith]

Oh. Do you know what cards of those are usually used in tear decks?

[grand cave]

I know they are all earth fairy

And iirc have abilities that mill

[faint wraith]

I'll go look

Ok. I found them, but both the monsters used are banned

[north robin]

Makes sense why they are banned. Milling an 7th of your deck with that much advantage is crazy good

[faint wraith]

Yeah one of them if you have a specific card in your gy or field (even if you wouldn't normally play it) lets you mill 10 cards if it goes into your gy

And one tear card that was banned (understandably) is a fusion monster (as in it lets you fuse) and if you normal or special summon it you mill 5 cards.

[north robin]

Yeah, Kelback and Agaido go crazy with tear since the other tear stuff is GY and mil effects.
Mudora and Keldo are also super good since they shuffle back important GY effects which was useful in tear for dodging bystials.
And you have the Zolga retrain aka the forgotten Ishizu card.

They were also crazy good in mil decks in general like witchcrafters, infernoids, and zombie piles

Except Zolga

[faint wraith]

Wow. That's a lot of uses for all those things.

[north robin]

Which is why they are either banned, limited, or Zolga

[faint wraith]

Wow I forgot just how good Arc-V's Sora vs. Shay duel is

[north robin]

Raidraptors Vs Fluffals, right?

[grand cave]

Ye

[north robin]

Penguin loops vs. triple towers

[faint wraith]

Yeah. When you learn a lot more about Sora's background and it's peak

Have you guys seen the new Malice monsters? (A link archetype based on alice and wonderland)

[north robin]

I just recently glanced over them. How’d you know

[grand cave]

I just had a 23 turn duel against vaalmonica

[north robin]

How could they stall for so long?

[grand cave]

They didnt

I was playing psy frame

[faint wraith]

I dunno

[faint wraith]

I once had a 19 turn duel against an incomplete yubel deck

[north robin]

Ah I see. A negate deck I can get behind

[north robin]

Dang, that’s painful considering the Yubel gimmick

I think the longest duel I’ve had was against and earth machine player and I was playing N/R Tenyi in ranked.
I’m still unsure how I won

[faint wraith]

They only had 1 nightmare pain and for some reason no spirit gate so I got rid of nightmare pain and didn't attack unless I had a clear shot

[north robin]

Dang, only 1 pain. Deserved then

[faint wraith]

And I was using dragon link mainly focused on the dragonmaid engine so I just kept returning their yubel cards to the hand

[faint wraith]

Yeah I was genuinely confused when they never pulled out another pain, and then afterwards checked their deck and they only had one

As if they pulled on the banner and were only using cards from those pulls and only pulled one pain

[north robin]

Even so Nightmare pain is a SR

It’s not as difficult to get compared to get unless they were really scraping for gems

[faint wraith]

To be fair it was in like silver as I was getting my rank back up from the season change, but still.

[north robin]

Understandable

[faint wraith]

I still think it would've made sense to have 3 pains even if you just start and copy

[faint wraith]

I got the swordsoul structure deck from putting in a campaign code and it's actually kinda fun with some modifications

[faint wraith]

I just beat a branded deck with lunalight : D

[faint wraith]

The dude even had a 60 card deck and used grass

[north robin]

Makes sense considering branded piles work just as well and if not better than a 40 card deck due to the amount of options they have

[faint wraith]

I had a well timed kaiju to deal with jade, and I got leo dancer out so the rest of their board didn't matter. Then the next turn I had some extra resourses so I decided to play abyss dweller and they forfeit

[faint wraith]

It's fun how with yellow marten and one other level 4 lunalight in your graveyard along with tiger in your scale, every turn you can get a rank 4 xyz monster out.

[north robin]

Tiger is just crazy in general. Not even a once per turn reborn on the pend effect.

Not to mention it’s basically searchable if you can make a rank 4 in the fire fist that searches Tenki

[faint wraith]

And it's amazing how xyz monsters bypass maten's restriction of banishing itself when it leaves the field after special summoning it from the grave. This deck is a rank 4 and link machine with leo dancer being the centerpiece for breaking your opponent's board.

[north robin]

I mean, technically it’s not exactly leaving the field or something.
It’s something about the XYZ rulings.
Kinda how Sangan doesn’t trigger after being sent as material anymore

[faint wraith]

Yeah I just think it's neat how lunalight is a fusion archetype, but it synergizes so well with xyz monsters. Hell, if you have the resources you can easily bring out dratopic future

[north robin]

It’s no ghostrick shot but it’ll do

[faint wraith]

I do not exactly see the comparisson (closest resemblence is to luna light perfume, yes there's a space, and yes that space is the bane of my existence)

[faint wraith]

Also if you're still here may I please get some recommendations for xyz monsters for lunalight? I have some extra deck space that just has some filler right now and want some good stuff. I have bagooska, abyss dweller, tiger king, dugaress, and time thief redoer but I feel like some of them don't do much most of the time

[north robin]

Chankine & Boarbow are pretty good for an easy 4 mat Zeus due to Boarbow being a direct attacker for the condition
Raider’s knight can also be an option as well since the Lunalights are mainly dark (except the pends) which can make a quick rebellion XYZ for an OTK
The armored XYZ engine could with the rank 5 and the rank 7 if you’ve got a bit of space in the main

If you don’t mind running a brick in the main you could also run double or nothing for Utopic double along with a Utopia.
Anything monster your opponent has with 2k or less attack will be an OTK

Evilswarm Knightmare is a good budget option since it makes any monster that’s special summoned face down. Helps against links/XYZ decks

[faint wraith]

I'll check out all of those options thank you

[north robin]

Np. I’ve ran Lunalights awhile ago though in duel links.
Though it isn’t exactly the same the few XYZ’s I used in that card pool still apply in the master format

[faint wraith]

So the otk with rebellion uses arc rebellion right? Raider's knight rank up into arc rebellion to steal the attack of all monsters?

[north robin]

Yup, pretty much. That includes all of your monsters too so you can buff it up even more with what your willing to put on the board

[faint wraith]

Not too hard to get a rank 4 out even after using mats for leo dancer. Plus if you banished chick your opponent can't activate anything during the battle phase.

[north robin]

Understandable. Think of it as more of a board break plan 2 then since it also has a blanket negate effect

[faint wraith]

Though it doesn't state until ens of turn, so if you for whatever reason can't kill the opponent in that turn wouldn't your leo dancer just end up not having an ability?

[north robin]

Yes. This is true

I also forgot about the other restriction being only Arc rebellion can attack so it renders it more of a plan B

[faint wraith]

Just won the most toxic duel I've ever had

[north robin]

Kash? Stun? Snake-eyes? Some kind of fiber jar deck?

[faint wraith]

It had kash in it, but it had a stupid gimmick. Lemme explain.

So the dude had a monster (I can't remember the name) that locked both players out of special summoning, then had the trap card Safe Zone attached to it, and a card that I can't remember the name of, but it was a spell that made it so if a card(s) they control would be destroyed by an opponent's card effect, they can send a branded fusion monster (as in one that mentions Albaz) from their ed to their gy to protect them once per turn. I was able to get them down to like 1200 lp before they swapped the safe zone monster to defense position.

Luckily I went first so I was able to bring out leo dancer first

And the only reason I won was because I had black sheep already summoned, and drew wolf. So I tribute summoned her, which allowed leo to inflict piercing damage and win.

[north robin]

The funny Piercing monster for the win.
Also I assume you mean Jogen the spellcaster since I’ve seen some branded players use that in their brews as a way to get legal branded explosion (The fusion monster) on board.

[faint wraith]

It was probably them. Also Yubel is fun to play.

[north robin]

Yubel is enjoyable.

The cards carry some nice references to them.
Their fusion being a nod to flame wing man and Spirit of Yubel/Samsara D Lotus with Yubel’s initial form

[faint wraith]

I'll admit I never watched where Yubel is from, I just think his deck is fun (especially being able to set up a fairly consistent otk with the golem guy)

[grand cave]

Gx

[faint wraith]

Is that one of the older ones? (I've only seen arc V and like 2 zexal episodes)

[grand cave]

Yes

[faint wraith]

Ah.

Another appeal of Yubel decks is using super poly to wipe your opponent's field (or keep one you wanna attack) to summon loving defender

[north robin]

Another nod to GX in how super poly is created ||by sacrificing the souls of Jaden’s classmates|| in order to have this power.
Gx apoilers

[faint wraith]

Wow. That's.. kinda dark.

[north robin]

Yup

Gx was quite dark

Literally in season 3 and story wise

[faint wraith]

Zamn

[faint wraith]

What's... interesting about master duel, is that you can encounter people with a structure deck that they bought from the shop for 500 crystals in the same tier as people decked out with a tear kash horus hybrid deck (silver 3 btw)

[north robin]

Yeah.
Either they dropped all the way down for Gen farming, new player bringing in a meta deck (always fun to see them, or a “retired” player who hasn’t done ranked in awhile but still builds the new decks

[faint wraith]

This one seemed to be someone who dropped. They played the deck as if they knew it in and out. No hesitation in their plays.

[shell helm]

i know nothing but that i must raidraptor.

[faint wraith]

Me but Lunalight and Lyrilusc

[north robin]

I’ve head Raidraptor is pretty good yet complex when playing through negate.
Also the second archetype to have a rank 13 monster

[shell helm]

me make unga bunga immune to everything

[faint wraith]

The Kaiju sitting in my hand:

[north robin]

You may have gotten to Kaiju the first towers in raidraptors but what about the second (And third. Crazy how they can have 3 on your opponents turn.)

[faint wraith]

Sphere mode

(I didn't know they could get three holy fuck)

[shell helm]

you can make 3 pretty easy

or two and make the third after the wipe

yes me when i make a third towers on my opponents turn

[faint wraith]

Like using a rank up trap or something?

[north robin]

I think it’s one of their rank-up spells

[faint wraith]

One of their MANY rank up spells.

[shell helm]

rank 7 floating effect

or make the rank 13 towers on their turn with the quick play spell that lets you combine two with at least one from field

i love having a dark hole + raigeki for fun

[faint wraith]

Rank 7 floating effect?

[faint wraith]

That's always fun.

Usually people only have one spell negate.

[shell helm]

when it goes to grave with a raidraptor material you can summon any raidraptor xyz from extra deck and attach it as a material

[faint wraith]

Ohh I've seen that before.

But I haven't seen anyone get 3 ultimates out in one turn.

[shell helm]

i can get a rank 13 and an ultimate out pretty easily. both are towers

if i play it right i could probably get more out but i dont feel the need to burn my free field wipe before they build a field

[faint wraith]

Free field wipe-

[shell helm]

Unaffected by other cards' effects. If this card is Xyz Summoned: You can destroy as many cards your opponent controls as possible, then if this card has 3 or more "Raidraptor" Xyz Monsters with different names as material, inflict damage to your opponent equal to the combined original ATK of the destroyed monsters.

• from the card itself

[faint wraith]

Oh I see it

[shell helm]

it goes kinda crazy

[faint wraith]

Yeah I guess the rank up is an xyz summon

Wait which card allows you to get any raptor from your ed again?

[shell helm]

raidraptor - arsenal falcon does not count as an XYZ summon. i usually use it for an ultimate summon if it stays on the end board and gets destroyed

tbh usually it ends up being one of my two rising rebellion mats

7 + 6 is really easy to go into 13

rank-up magic spells have this line of text
(This is treated as an Xyz Summon. Transfer their materials to the Summoned monster.)
which Arsenal doesnt

[faint wraith]

Ahh ok. So you summon ultimate, and one the enemy has a board you want to clear you rank up ultimate?

[shell helm]

usually make 1-2 of the two towers monsters if youre going first. then look to make the 3rd to clear field later

[faint wraith]

My humor is broken I chuckled when I read two towers

[shell helm]

your rank 10 and rank 13 are both immune to everything

[shell helm]

you're cooked xdd

[faint wraith]

Chat I'm so cooked you can say I'm well done

[faint wraith]

And the rank 10 has like 3500 attack so it's pretty hard to beat over.

[shell helm]

thats not well done thats congratulations

[shell helm]

rank 13 is 4k and yeah ultimate is 3500

if they have the rank 7 as material ultimate is 4500 and rising rebellion is 5300

[faint wraith]

For the rank 13 you'd need something like Zarc- the fuck

[shell helm]

you can make the rank 13 using the combination spell that adds the ranks together

[faint wraith]

How does it deal with Yubel though?

[shell helm]

you just cry

i mean theres a way but it requires you surviving a yubel turn

raidraptor would seem much better if they didnt just add yubel support.

[faint wraith]

What is the way? I wanna know how to counter it

[faint wraith]

Yeah we got an amazing monster that synergizes with super poly

All it needs are effect monsters

[shell helm]

on your turn (going second/turn 3) you can detach one from ultimate falcon to make your opponent unable to activate cards or effects, then make the rank 13 to board wipe

you cant super poly the towers monsters at least

i get one single break

[faint wraith]

You can't?

[shell helm]

you cant

[faint wraith]

I thought you could

[shell helm]

idk someone tried it and then FF'd so im assuming it only showed them they could use the link 2

im like 99% sure you cant use ultimate falcon or rising rebellion for super poly

[faint wraith]

Think we could start a duel to try and test it?

[shell helm]

yeah im down

not right this second but in a bit when i get off work im down

i have a ss of my master duel id somewhere

[faint wraith]

Alright. I do have stuff I'm doing today though (celebrating my cousin's birthday) so it'll probably have to wait until late afternoon or evening

[shell helm]

found it

im down

also if you're curious heres the list (it came to me in a delusion)

im thinking about dropping a rank 4 for the rank 8

[faint wraith]

Followed you

[faint wraith]

Yeah cause you prooobably can do with 2 force strix's

[shell helm]

it came to me in a delusion.

[faint wraith]

I just went with Yubel cards and typical cards (ash and c)

Still working on the extra deck

[shell helm]

my ratios are absolutely delusional and should not be used by any sane raidraptor player

[faint wraith]

Aside from loving defender and phantom I have mud dragon and the predaplant fusion guy

[faint wraith]

Eh. If it works it works.

[shell helm]

41 card main deck

[faint wraith]

Evil

Scum of the earth

[shell helm]

okay but

i needed to add card destruction

if you get maxx c'd turn one its a FTK

[faint wraith]

What?

[shell helm]

you can summon 20 times a turn easily

then card destruction

discard 25, draw 25

if they cant? they lose right there

doesnt even take their turn

[faint wraith]

What card is that?

[shell helm]

I love old cards

[faint wraith]

Ohhh

But if you don't have it in your hand then what?

[shell helm]

pray you can draw it with roost/ash the maxx c

the times it works gives so much dopmine it is worth it

[faint wraith]

What if.. droll?

[shell helm]

roost is like 1 draw

per turn

tbf droll makes most decks cry

[faint wraith]

Surprisingly though I pretty much never see it

[shell helm]

fair. most decks can special summon from deck nowadays so its not as strong anymore

[faint wraith]

Even Yubel, too. Floo hates it though.

[shell helm]

i dont see floo much anymore

yubel, snake-eyes fire king and sprights are what i see the most

[faint wraith]

Snake-eyes and fire king probably from the pack that left recently, Yubel probably for what's out right now.

[shell helm]

i mean voiceless voice is the new archetype that just dropped

don't be surprised if more of those lists hit ranked

[faint wraith]

I only faced one of them but they rocked my shit

Caught me off guard with an actually good ritual deck.

[north robin]

If voiceless is gonna be hit it’ll probably be after the pack expires.
Mostly so they can rack up the cash with the current meta

[faint wraith]

World's first good modern ritual deck

[north robin]

Nekroz/Giski/Drytron would like a word with you

[faint wraith]

I have returned

[faint wraith]

Funny enough I have cards from like 1 random tin I got for christmas and have no other physical yu-gi-oh cards, and I have Nekroz Cycle and dance princess of the nekroz and before I had a phone to play master duel I would look at Nekroz cards online

[shell helm]

i have a copy of the xyz monster for drytrons

[shell helm]

i can hop on whenever

[faint wraith]

I have odd eyes pendulum dragon, artifact lancea (a really good hand trap) and even majesty's fiend

[faint wraith]

So the point of this duel is to see if super poly works on ultimate. So just summon out ultimate (or multiple) and I'll try to get yubel and super poly to see if it works.

[shell helm]

sent an invite

[north robin]

Super poly from what I remember doesn’t work on ultimate.
It prevents responses but doesn’t bypass protection

[shell helm]

same immunity on this thing

need more draws?

hope u found the super poly bc i brainfarted

can u hit rank 13

[faint wraith]

Yeah you can't use it

[shell helm]

yeah

[faint wraith]

Wow

[shell helm]

i was gonna make a ult falcon but i forgor my lines

[faint wraith]

I didn't know that. Good to know.

And yeah it crumbles to yubel

[shell helm]

yeah no i cant do shit to yubel if im going first

0 negates in archetype

cant link summon past 2

ED super tight

[faint wraith]

Oh yeah cause one guy locked you into dark special summons

[shell helm]

yeah

[faint wraith]

So you couldn't even go into draco

[shell helm]

and fuzzy locks you into raidraptor

there is a line that i could do

make dark rebellion and rank up to dark requiem

[faint wraith]

Oh yeah cause he negates effects

[shell helm]

thats 3 negates

but its so specific

[faint wraith]

As long as you don't use fuzzy lanius you could do that

[shell helm]

yeah

[faint wraith]

But isnt't fuzzy kinda vital?

[shell helm]

its a great anti-brick

i gotta go but thats good raidraptor MU knowledge

theyre gonna be everywhere bc new support dropped

[faint wraith]

Aight. Thank you for the knowledge

I will be playing Yubel to deal with these guys

[shell helm]

[faint wraith]

I wanna make a synchro deck that's decent but I also need to make sure I don't spend TOO many resources.

[north robin]

Depends, what synchro deck were you hoping to build?

[grand cave]

Can i suggest speedroids

[north robin]

If I’m not mistaken, isn’t Speedroids kinda good for a budget

The URs are mainly the Clear wing synchrons and Baron which ain’t bad

[grand cave]

I dont use baronne

[north robin]

Makes it easier on a budget then

[grand cave]

Ive been playing it with majespecter recently, quite fun

[north robin]

Oh yeah, Majestpecter got some support recently

Also the fact that it’s cheap too with the newest addition being like a 1 of UR (excluding Kirin and any dracoslayer engine)

[faint wraith]

The main decks I use are dragon link (using the dragon maid engine) and Yubel. I wanted budget because I spent a lot of ur craft points on things like knightmare links, accesscode, and some hand traps I didn't already have 3 of.

[faint wraith]

Yugo's deck hell yeah

[north robin]

I’d recommend black-wings as also being a budget option too. Buying 3 structures basically hands you most of the package.
The only craftable URs youll need is depending on the build though most builds mainly need Nothung.
Some use Bis pater, hot red abyss, or draco berserker though going budget with 3 tax dragons is pretty funny as well

Also know your small world bridges as well

You can even mix it in with some raid raptors for some wing-beast synergy.
(Please be mindful of the locks though. Sundri’s second effect mainly)

[faint wraith]

Just beat over a crystal beast deck with dragon maid (mainly accesscode but still)

[faint wraith]

I'll have to keep that in mind. I'll probably try for speedroids though.

[north robin]

Understandable.
Though if your building Speedroids, it’ll probably come in handy with the upcoming wind/water event

[faint wraith]

True.

Dragon link is fun. Being able to easily bring out titans like accesscode is so nice.

[faint wraith]

It's funny when you do something to break an opponent's board and they disconnect instead of surrendering. Because then you KNOW you made them mad.

[north robin]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-master-duel-jumpscare-crusadia-yugioh-master-duel-gif-27358380

It’s literally just this

But to a bigger extent with something like evenly

[faint wraith]

For me it was accesscode + little knight. They had one monster to use and had a battle phase effect, used it, and little knight banished it and itself.

And don't even get me started on when they use a battle effect after Sheou has already attacked

[north robin]

Ah, yes. Dragon phase change. A gimmick that makes sense on the translation to the archetype

Even having the deluxe mate makes it more realistic

[faint wraith]

I have the deluxe mate

It's a fun gimmick as the deck utilizes bouncing which is a hard form of removal to play off of

[north robin]

I remember running dragon maid a while ago due to it basically being given out for free (structure)

[faint wraith]

Yeah. 3 structures, basic hand traps and a bunch of link monsters make it function beautifully.

The basic structure is ass

[north robin]

Pretty good for a competent budget deck

[faint wraith]

You need to get 2 and add more of the archetype and remove most of the non-archetype cards.

Then it can play way more consistently.

[north robin]

True. Sadly, at least for now, dragonmaids need a bit more of a push especially with what’s going on in the current state of the game.

[faint wraith]

We need chamber maid's dragon form

Please Konami I'm begging you

[north robin]

mind reading I was gonna type that

It’ll probably happen due to it’s popularity

[faint wraith]

We simply think alike

[faint wraith]

It'd better

[north robin]

Probably a dragon form that can summon itself with any dragon instead of just its level. A mimic on how chamber works

[faint wraith]

We need more negates too. Like a trap or something.

We only have Sheou

[faint wraith]

Yee. Also I haven't been able to try it in practice, but can chamber summon sheou or house from the gy with her effect?

[north robin]

To my knowledge and reading the cards. That answer is a probably

Sheou doesn’t have a “must be fusion summoned” restriction on it along with house

Though if you try to bring out a House that was summoned through Sheou’s way then it can’t work due to properly summoned rules

[faint wraith]

Also even though Sheou is the big boss monster, the best monster has to be nurse. She's busted and if you have the cards she can consistently bring out 2 bodies a turn.

[faint wraith]

Ohhhhh maybe that's why it didn't work for me before.

Cause I could've sworn that someone else brought back house with chamber. They must've fusioned her first.

[north robin]

True. The reborn is nice along with the tag out if you have the right dragon. Also spheres target

[north robin]

To my knowledge you can’t bring back monsters that weren’t probably summoned through their normal ways unless your name is prediction princess because the rulings on flip monsters are a bit of a nightmare

[faint wraith]

Opponent's turn. They build up a strong boss monster. They go to battle phase. Return boss to hand with spheres and bring out nurse to go +1

It might be more + I'm not sure

[faint wraith]

Ahhh I see.

[north robin]

I think it’s a plus 2 since you get an extra body on board and the summon you get off nurse with the minus of a card your opponent controls

[faint wraith]

Yeah she's preeeeetty good

Spheres is good too. Nice fodder for accesscode effect.

[north robin]

True. Its bounce as an advantage

[faint wraith]

I fucking hate the rock because I can't count and tell if I've summoned 5 times

[north robin]

Simply manifest that it doesn’t exist
|| They really helps when it happens but at least it doesn’t stop someone from dreaming ||

[faint wraith]

I could've done something off of it because of spheres but of course they had an ash blossom ready

[north robin]

The cherry blossom girl with the big forehead.

[faint wraith]

I want to punt her but I have to respect that she makes the game healthier.

[north robin]

Eh…

Ash is complex.

A necessary evil these days.

[faint wraith]

Yeah that's what I mean

I hate her, and she sucks (a literal philosophy is "If your deck can't survive one ash blossom, it's never going to be meta") but she makes it harder for top tier decks to make completely unbreakable boards turn one.

[north robin]

That’s true. Due to her and other handtraps there’s a way to comeback all the crazy meta/jank strats in the game

I remember the launch of MD and the Igknight FTK bots

Though cards now are design to specific play around Ash like Lo in voiceless not searching a spell/trap card but playing it from deck

[faint wraith]

Oh interesting. We need more of that in other archtypes (not tear or kash though. They can do without)

[north robin]

There’s even cards now that play around Droll too.
Spirit of Yubel can set its spell and traps in case you are drolled/predict it and Vaylantz have some similar by setting their pends from deck,

Decks now even have ways around Imperm with cards like Gravesquirmer in Yubel and Unchained Sharvara destroying a monster.

[faint wraith]

Even floo has a way of getting around imperm.

[north robin]

Yeah, Advent of Adventure is a busted card for doing that

[faint wraith]

Unfortunately doesn't beat ash though

[north robin]

Kinda

Advent just replaces your search

So in a way it’s more of a backup

Unless you mean imperm then ash. Then I see your point

[faint wraith]

Oh I was just meaning ash. Cause like say they ash your robina. How do you do another normal summon?

[north robin]

“ immediately after this effect resolve “

Doesn’t have to go through

Its something along the lines of negating the effect and not the activation

Or the other way around

To try to explain it, Robina’s effect is to search and after the resolution is the activation to normal summon birb.
If you negate the effect to search, the resolution still continues since there was a result which was negation.
However if you negate Robina with an imperm, it negates all its effect and that includes the extra normal

[faint wraith]

I thought that by negating the effect, while it activates, it can't resolve.

Also ash can negate a whole card as long as it has even a hint of searching.

[north robin]

Basically

Until we get a card that draws as a cost instead of an effect

[faint wraith]

Which will never exist as drawing is not a cost

[north robin]

Though cards that dump for cost can completely avoid ash

[north robin]

Yet.

[faint wraith]

Like kaliedochick

[faint wraith]

Bro even Konami knows the power of drawing

[north robin]

Yup, even a more banned example in Mathmech Circular (In TCG, MD still has 3)

[north robin]

To an extent

Though it’ll only be a matter of time

Decks even have their own pot of greed in some cases cough sky strikers cough

[faint wraith]

Although chick doesn't activate sent to gy effects you can still bring them back with tiger fir link or xyz, and yellow marten can be used as long as it's IN the gy

[faint wraith]

Bird up 🦅

[north robin]

Oh yeah, that’s kind of the rulings for some effects that get sent by cost rather than effect.
Dark world knows that pain for many years

[north robin]

Very true.

[faint wraith]

Lyrilusc is what REALLY got me into the card game aspect of yugioh (I mean playing it instead of just watching)

[north robin]

Oh really? A true bird calling

[faint wraith]

A Lyrilusc Bird Call(ing) if you will

[north robin]

Birdvantage

[faint wraith]

As a lyrilusc player I hate Nibiru because I HAVE to special summon a lot in order to do anything productive and they kill 5 birds with one stone

[north robin]

Yeah, Nib tends to do that.

Sometimes you just pray you have a way to bait it or cope they do it at the wrong time

[faint wraith]

Lyrilusc can't bait it we have no unimportant pieces to use as bait

I could just be playing them wrong though

[north robin]

I guess see if they have a response after 5 just summon Kininagashi Fucho. See them try to tribute that

[faint wraith]

Who?

[faint wraith]

Slacker magician but better because it's a cool bird

Also I am only now noticing Zeus is no longer limited holy-

[north robin]

It’s fine though have you seen the new Zeus animation?

The first card to have an effect and summon animation

[faint wraith]

No I have not I need to go see it now

To solo mode I go

[north robin]

It’s astounding

Mostly since you can activate multiple times in a chain

[faint wraith]

HOLY SHIT

I was not expecting it to be that over the top

[faint wraith]

Assembled nightningale making a Zeus with 6 mats with little effort

[north robin]

Detach 2

[faint wraith]

Send everything to gy.

Opponent tries to use a negate. Detach 2 more.

[north robin]

Zeus is kinda nutty.
A once per turn on the way to summon it out and adding a material yet no restriction on the detach effect

[grand cave]

Usually youll only have 2 mats on it unless youre playing zoodiac or smth

[faint wraith]

Cause like.. you're not gonna summon more than one at a time so why restrict that?

[grand cave]

But yea its good

[grand cave]

Zeus make zeus

[faint wraith]

Lyrilusc easily gets you like 6 mats on it if you don't just kill the enemy outright

[grand cave]

or smth

Zoo was the first example that popped in my head

[faint wraith]

Sorry I just really like Lyrilusc

[grand cave]

Fair

[north robin]

Some XYZ’s can churn out a couple more with Dowrned or even Spiginians merrymaker into Sargas

Though yeah, usually 2

[grand cave]

Also zeus is one of if not the first monsters to have an on effect animation in master duel

[north robin]

True

[grand cave]

Not counting handtraps

[north robin]

Technically one of the few cards with a double animation that isn’t a DM card

[faint wraith]

Faced someone playing resonators and they used maxx c on their turn by accident and instantly forfeit. It was really funny.

[north robin]

Ah yes, The shame scoop.

I’ve seen this done mostly with people who ash themselves

[faint wraith]

The thing about a maxx c shame scoop is you could probably still play without it. It'd just make the next turn tougher.

[north robin]

True. At that point it’d be a reverse pot of greed since you’re giving up 1 card and they draw one next turn.

[faint wraith]

The thing about facing traptrix is that a decent amount of decks can beat it if they go before traptrix. But if you go second it becomes much harder.

[north robin]

That is true unless you have duster, evenly, or anything to get rid of backrow

Just dont do the first mistake in traptrix, that being Imperm Sera (I must remind myself to stop doing that each time I face them)

[faint wraith]

I faced one two games ago and made that mistake. If they use Pudicai, imperm pudicai, ash blossom Sera.

[north robin]

Ah yes, the towers solution

[faint wraith]

You love to see it

[north robin]

The lab chains

[faint wraith]

I love Lab. It's fun playing decks that play during your opponent's turn (maybe why I like traptrix, lab, centurion, and others like them.)

Oh and Tear too.

[north robin]

I remember playing tear in its “prime” in MD before it got constant hits.
Twas fun

[faint wraith]

Back before their 3rd fusion card was banned (I forget her name)

[north robin]

I’ve also played my share of lab and I should probably get it updated at some point

3rd fusion card?

[faint wraith]

The monster

Mel-somthing

[north robin]

Merly? (Can’t spell)

[faint wraith]

Yeah

The one who doubles as easy milling and a gy fusion effect

[north robin]

Makes since since with kitkallos you’d go 8 deep in deck

Goes even harder with the Kash Tear since that goes to around 10 which is more than a forth of your deck (I’m excluding the cards in your hand)

[faint wraith]

What's crazy is that despite all the hits it's taken, tear has been able to easily work with other engines to stay tier 0

Hear me out

Branded tear with grass is greener

[north robin]

Pretty sure that’s already been a thing due to the fusion synergy

Through the issue is one grass…

[faint wraith]

Oh. I figured it would've been used, just something I thought of.

[faint wraith]

Triple tactics thrust so if they handtrap anything while you have it it's an easy grass

[north robin]

I forgot that Triple T exists. I guess that makes it 3 more copies essentially

[faint wraith]

Yeah in all the grass branded decks I see they have 3 copies.

Though usually against me they just have regular in their hand.

And it's always when I don't have an ash to stop it

[north robin]

Always sad to see.

The opponent going +10 - 19 from that single grass

[faint wraith]

At the very least I was able to beat a deck like that because they milled all of their super poly's so they couldn't get rid of some of my key monsters

[north robin]

That’s at least a plus. The whiff off the grass

Though I assume they still milled some good stuff

[faint wraith]

Yeah they did, but I was able to keep up and snatch the win.

[north robin]

Nice

[faint wraith]

Something that I don't get with people is when it's already the battle phase, I'm about to do lethal damage, and then they forfeit while I'm in the middle of attacking. It's one thing id you realize you can't win in the middle of an opponent's combo and don't want to wait, but it's another if it would be literally like 3 seconds before you die

Just take the loss and don't wimp out

[faint wraith]

God labrynth is so GOOD I LOVE IT

[faint wraith]

I just had the funniest interaction with a Yubel deck.

I'm playing lab, I go first, and I set up some traps. But I don't realize I have coocoo clock until the next turn and feel like I'm behind with a board not as set up as it could be.

Game plays out, and I end up using imperm on phantom to stop it from negating anything. He tries to stop an ash blossom, but it fails cause of imperm.

Turn keeps going. My heart sinks as I see super poly come out. But it turns out they played it IN THE IMPERM COLLUM AND IT'S NEGATED

They forfeit right after but jesus christ I was laughing so hard

[shell helm]

will not beat putting your keys in the imperm column at locals only for them to forget anyway

[faint wraith]

Honestly I forgot about the imperm column entirely.

[north robin]

Don’t we all at some point

especially if you Imperm column yourself. I am guilty of this

[faint wraith]

As a lab player, I don't really need to worry about that. And I don't worry about maxx c too much as if they play it on my turn, most of my special summoning is on their turn.

Here's the replay of the Yubel match if you wanted to see what exactly happened

[north robin]

Whats funny about this is that the Imperm column now has an animation where it’s placed and with that people still miss it

[faint wraith]

My confusion came from why he didn't use phantom to negate coocoo clock. Cause if he did that, I wouldn't have been able to activate imperm.

[north robin]

They probably thought you wouldn’t shotgun that effect right after Coocoo so they could get one of your other monster effects before you drop down Imperm in a chain

[faint wraith]

Maybe. Also the ash blossom I drew was actually a main character moment.

[faint wraith]

Why is the voiceless voice deck so cool yet so expensive...

[north robin]

A bit of Classic card nostalgia and a
Good competent deck

[faint wraith]

But why does it need a deck that literally only has 2 cards that are below sr rarity-

[north robin]

Could be that they needed pack filler too for URs and decided on that instead of any other cards

[faint wraith]

Yeah a lot of it are staples like ash blossom and maxx c and imperm, but even in the archetype there are only like 3 cards that are below sr rarity.

[north robin]

Konami: Yeah that’s fair. Make it more expensive than Yubel (honestly why is it more expensive than Yubel)

[faint wraith]

At least Yubel has a decent amount of rares and normals in the main deck you use.

[faint wraith]

If there's one trap I know has my back in labrynth, it's dimensional barrier. Can I get an amen?

[north robin]

Amen

[faint wraith]

I see the enemy playing branded, I click fusion. I see them playing photons (like at a lower rank), I click xyz Only thing that sucks is that there isn't an option for links (probably because the card was made before their introduction)

[faint wraith]

Hold on.. with tearlament Kalaidoheart's ability, if you sent it to the gy from the extra deck with dogmatika punishment, would that summon itself?

I tested it and it does not work.

[north robin]

It doesn’t due to not being properly summoned

If an extra deck monster is sent to the GY without having its proper summoning method (Fusion, Link, XYZ, and Synchro) then it can’t be summoned

[faint wraith]

Ohhh. But other gy effects can be triggered as long as it doesn't involve summoning itself?

[north robin]

Yup

[faint wraith]

So I know about N'tis and Garuda, but what are some other good targets for punishment?

[north robin]

@ignister Pegasus is pretty good along with Golden Cloud Beast - Malong (SR craft)

The Link - 5 tri brigade is technically 1 too. That way you can send a high level monster and send Garuda as well for a card draw (UR craft)

[faint wraith]

I love my lyrilusc tower that's gotten multiple cards banned :3

[faint wraith]

I beat a Kashtira deck with my pure lyrilusc deck (it helped that I had both a lava golem and a kaiju to break their endboard but still)

[faint wraith]

Why is Independent Nightningale just something that you would see on a custom card?

Immune to everything
Gains huge attack based on level
Can inflict huge burn damage on the enemy based on level (even being able to 2 turn ko with the effect damage alone)

The only thing holding it back is a lack of support in it's own archetype

[north robin]

The fusion right?

Yeah, it's kinda busted. especially if you mix it with something like the staring venom dragon which can copy abilites.
Just dump the Fusion with a domagtic card (That is after summoning vemon) and you have starving venom copy everything from the immunity to the burn effect (4k points of burn)

Actually Nightingale is the reason why Tyrant neptune is banned.
Tyant's abiliy to copy it is way too strong and easy. Not to mention how level makes the burn around 5k damage from the once per turn.

Also the reason why venom is limited 1 one

[faint wraith]

Yep. That's what I meant by "gotten multiple cards banned". She got tyrant banned and venom limited.

Thank god they didn't decide to hit nightningale herself. Now I can laugh when I manage to make a level 8 tower and watch as the opponent fumbles trying to get rid of her since they don't have a kaiju.

[north robin]

The only issue about that is running a fusion card. Poly does have it's ways to be searched now though. I can imagine it can brick at times

[faint wraith]

Or you can use proxy-f magician. That's what I use.

A link 2 monster that just needs 2 effect monsters that can be used as a consistent fusion summon. Only issue is that requires more materials to make him as well as the two xyz birds, and you almost always need to use something like beryl canary to have enough and she locks you into xyz summoning.

[north robin]

I forgot Proxy is generic. I thought it required Cyberse monsters.
Though that does seems like a good option if you’ve got the place

[faint wraith]

Often what I'm seeing is that if you go first, make linkuriboh, recital, and ensemblue. Then if you didn't have to use every material on ensemblue that turn, use recital's ability till she has no units, then use her and linkuriboh to make proxy, then make assembled (preferably with saphire swallow to get more mats from the gy) and use proxy to fuse ensemblue and assembled for independent. Power varies depending on how many units you had on ensemblue, but you should have at least like 4 on assembled.

[north robin]

Btw how expensive would you say Lyrilusc is?
Is it more UR/SR heavy? (Excluding staples like the ashes, Maxx C, imperms, etc.)

I’m considering playing it due to how versatile you present them to be and I’m looking for another deck to invest into after I try to find the cards for an Ice Barrier deck I’ve been working on

[faint wraith]

Lemme go look

[north robin]

Im either considering that or going for insects since insects have a lot of tools that seem fun

[faint wraith]

There are no main deck urs in the archetype. The only urs are in the extra deck.

There are 2 sr cards. Celestine Wagtail and Bird Call.

[north robin]

So it like 5-6 ur extra deck Archtype cards or are there more non-archtype urs to consider?

Also I’m fine with mainly SR cards since I have around 500 SR dust to spend

[faint wraith]

The only non-archetype urs are staples like imperm and droplet.

[north robin]

Gotcha

Yeah, I might go into them then

[faint wraith]

You want AT LEAST 2 starlings.

[north robin]

Searcher I’m guessing?

[faint wraith]

Yes.

Greatly boosts consistency.

[north robin]

I’ll probably play 3 then

[faint wraith]

You want an ensemblue robin for going first.

She can use a unit when your opponent special summons a monster to return it to the hand on a non-once per turn

A non-archetype ur actually is linkuriboh as it keeps her from getting run over by a normal summon

[north robin]

I’ve already got a Linkuriboh so I don’t have to worry about that

[faint wraith]

Though you can work with one, I usually run 2 assembleds in case one somehow gets outed. That way the second can be an emercengy zeus pilot.

[north robin]

Gotcha

[faint wraith]

Assembled is an sr btw

Another sr that you want one of is promade thrush. She's the only archetypal backrow removal we have (but it is good as it shuffles into the deck)

For a fairly consistent otk we use kaijus and lava golem. Typically 3 of the highest attack power kaiju and 3 lava golems.

For the main birds you use 3 of each (though sapphire swallow can work with 2) and bird call is the only spell that's really used. However, you can add in bird sanctuary if you want to go for an otk without using no u damage.

When you xyz summon, you want to use cobalt sparrow as material as much as possible. She'll make it so the xyz monster that used her can't be targetted by your opponent's card effects.

And that effect persists even if you detach her.

Two non-archetyple cards that you use are "Jack-in-the-hand" and "Where arf thou?". Jack, although giving your opponent a monster in the hand, helps with consistency. You reveal 3 level 1s in your deck, and your opponent chooses one to add to their hand and then you choose one to add to yours. Then you shuffle the last one back in.

Typically you reveal who you don't have. The best targets are cobalt, Turquoise, and celestine.

Unfortunately the deck hard loses to skill drain, so I slotted in 2 twin twisters to deal with it.

[north robin]

I don’t imagine that’s I’ll be sacked by the 1 of.
Also I’ll keep the jack-in-the-hand reveals in mind and I assume my opponent can’t do much with just a level 1 birb.

By chance is one for one used in variations or would you say that’s not entirely needed?

[faint wraith]

It's used, but yeah not needed.

Also as you would expect, Zeus is VERY good as with assembled you can easily amass a 6 material Zeus (He just won me a game on his own)

[faint wraith]

Also lyrilusc just doesn't have much backrow removal in general.

Though if you're willing to keep a birb to sack, icarus attack is a valid option.

Then Jester Confit is used as an easy level 1 and can help you out of some bad hands as long as you have another lyrilusc to make recital with.

[north robin]

Should I also consider cards like slower swallow, ghost fairy Elfobia, or more level 1 extenders? as an option

[faint wraith]

Slower swallow is something that I've actually been meaning to put in the deck but have just been having trouble thinking of what to swap out.

[faint wraith]

Oh damn I never knew about the fairy's effect that could be really helpful

Also if you feel like you'll need it in the match up, d.d. crow is searchable by recital and cobalt.

[faint wraith]

Finally read the lore for the world legacy stuff.

It's funny for me to imagine that all the krawlers and mekk knights and dragons that are rampaging just die after getting swarmed by hundreds of birds

[faint wraith]

The birb otk can play through a bad hand and an ash blossom hell yeah

[faint wraith]

Oh yeah the main appeal of starling is that she's not a hard once per turn. So if you make 2 of her (which is really easy to do) you get 2 searches. Ash blossom who?

[north robin]

You may have gotten rid of my first search but what will you do about the second!

[faint wraith]

And that second search will give me my beryl canary to bring back the material to make my otk enabler!

[faint wraith]

I'm pissed at myself. I had nibiru in my hand against raidraptor and was saving it for when they were about to end the main phase, but I didn't react in time to the game telling me they were about to end it and clicked no.

[faint wraith]

"And so Promade Thrush got use as an anti-yubel tool"

[north robin]

Makes sense.

[north robin]

Always painful when you were just one second away from clicking toggle in order to avoid nib predictions

[faint wraith]

And then they ashed my only out in the hand (bird call)

[north robin]

it happens

[faint wraith]

Also my variant of lyrilusc doesn't use ash or maxx c to keep room for imperm and droplet

[north robin]

I see, a preference for board breaks compared to handtraps

Though I guess Imperm fits both roles

[faint wraith]

It kinda needs it. Lyrilusc can play through a couple hand traps (as things like cobalt and celestine can bait out the traps to leave starling unimpeded)

It uses kaijus and lava golems to help as well along with providing a safe body to crash into for an otk

[faint wraith]

If you wanted an example on how Lyrilusc turns a seemingly dead hand into an otk here's a good example of mine

[faint wraith]

Not even Nibiru can stop me mwahahaha

[faint wraith]

@north robin Hey quick question. Does being unaffected by card effects also include negation effects like Dark Ruler No More?

[north robin]

Yes

Dark rulers effect is what causes the negation so cards that say unaffected by card effects have an immunity against it

Although if a card like skill drain is up before you summon a towers, the towers will have its effects negated

[faint wraith]

Well Lyrilusc loses to skill drain anyway so just another reason to scoop if I don't have backrow removal.

[north robin]

Gotcha

Also have you considered the harpie trap as a triple tactical thrust target?

[faint wraith]

I don't use thrust, but in my first iteration of lyrilusc I used that trap. Also if you want, Lyrilusc Bird Strike is a budget dark ruler no more as the only difference is it can be interacted with.

[north robin]

I’m planning to play it without bird strike to see how it goes.
I’ve already got droplet instead which basically has that cover and sends some birbs in the GY for some setups

[faint wraith]

Yeah I don't use it, but figured I may as well present it as an option.

[north robin]

Gotcha

[faint wraith]

Also yeah warbler basically makes it so you can discard a birb to make droplet have no cost targeting one monster.

[north robin]

Gotcha, I’ll have that noted

[faint wraith]

Or if you control a monster already and don't mind locking yourself into xyz Beryl canary works too.

And also, Warbler's effect doesn't just trigger if it's special summoned by its own effect. It triggers if it's ss'd from the hand AT ALL.

[faint wraith]

Hey Boat here's how you bring out the fusion birb (the other guy was playing cyber dragons and I made them go first that's why they just passed the turn)

[faint wraith]

I swear like half of the decks I'm facing are Yubel unchained and most of the time I just keep beating them.

Just.. how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

[faint wraith]

I personally think that called by the grave shouldn't negate the passive effects of a monster on the field if it banishes a monster in the gy.

Why does Nibiru fucking exist I hate it so much

[north robin]

Combo decks mainly.

[north robin]

I’ll leave out the fusion for now though if I invest more into it. I could implement that

Also when I get more gems from the event, I could try to see if I can get more for Lyrilusc. I’ve already got ice barrier built so I’ll move onto the next
I only need 5 URs which is manageable

[faint wraith]

I'm going to scream this is the second match I've lost to it in the last 30 minutes they could at least give the token some fucking protection

[faint wraith]

Understandable

[faint wraith]

Yipeee (excited for another lyrilusc player)

Using labrynth, starting hand of 2 imperms, maxx c, stovetop, and ice dragon prison. Ok, I can do something next turn while slowing down the opponent.

Discards prison to set welcome labrynth and sets imperms

Opponent's turn, use maxx c to get cards for next turn

Oh look the opponent had called by the grave and negates maxx c. Ok I'll now use welcome lab to bring out lady to start stuff

No bitch they have an ash blossom too

This game is suffering

[faint wraith]

I caved and added floodgates to my lab deck and have now made it to plat 1

[faint wraith]

Playing floodgates feels so... lame...

[north robin]

You know what they say.
“Play lame, win game”

[faint wraith]

After struggling so much, I've made it to diamond...

Now that I have the frame, what's a good self ko deck that can bring me down? I don't wanna be up here.

[north robin]

Would Dinomorphia count if you don’t activate the protection effects?

[north robin]

(If so the it’s probably the most expensive one)

[faint wraith]

I also decided to add floodgates in there just to be annoying.

I actually almost decked out a kashtira player but then I had to go

[north robin]

Ah. Understandable

[faint wraith]

Why am I winning this is supposed to demote me

[north robin]

Throw harder

[faint wraith]

I decked out a horus player I never expected this strat to win me games

[faint wraith]

I've found a good self-burn deck off of reddit

And in my journey to get demoted from diamond I'm sering some cool decks. It's cool when you're not trying to win against them.

[faint wraith]

The game isn't demoting me-

[north robin]

Oh yeah. They did that

You can’t demote yourself lower than plat I believe.

Reason being is to keep your rank in case you have people being too scared of falling straight to the bottom after going from gold to plat then plat to sliver after rage queuing

Good for anyone trying to get to masters.
Bad for people trying to reset their rank for the gem rewards

[faint wraith]

I'm in diamond on a 12 game losing streak and it's not even telling me that I'll get demoted if I lose

It won't let me leave I'm stuck I don't deserve to be at this high level

[raven fable]

Adapt

[faint wraith]

I'm working on a Kashtearla deck now (I crafted a royal finish shangri-la)

[grand cave]

Just wait for rank decay or go all the way

[raven fable]

do something funny with your shangri la

[faint wraith]

Confused on how to play tear deck

Go online and find what I've been doing wrong/unoptimally

Head to ranked with a new understanding of the deck

First match is against floo who immediately puts shifter up

[faint wraith]

Bring back tearlaments Merrli. I can be trusted with 3 fusion summons (fr though I think if she's limited to 1 like Havnis she'd be fine)

[faint wraith]

Tearlaments vs Snake eyes gameplay

[faint wraith]

Why have I been consistently bricking or having a hand that falls to one habd trap

[north robin]

Tis only the MD ranked Experience. Also that one episode in Vrains
~~Equip your skills to improve you consistently…wait that’s duel links ~~

[grand cave]

[faint wraith]

I wish I had skills..

[north robin]

Sadly only exclusive to duel links. Though I hear they maybe getting Lyrilusc soon.

[grand cave]

Really now

[north robin]

I’ve seen some leaks about it

Also windwitches as well

[faint wraith]

Wait like new support or just lyrilusc in general?

[north robin]

Lyrilusc in general coming to duel links

[faint wraith]

Oh that sucks that they're not in yet- wait doesn't duel links only start with 4k lp?

[north robin]

Yup. Though burn damage is cut in half

Unless your name is E-Hero flame-winged man

[faint wraith]

I'm thinking more of 5 mat assembled otking

[north robin]

How would you get a 5 mat with 3 monster zones?
A 4 mat I get though one of the bibs abilities though 5 is tricky.
They do have the EMZ though you’d need a level 1 specific one

[faint wraith]

Wait only 3 zones? (I have never seen duel links)

[north robin]

Yeah, duel links is suppose to be a faster format with 3 monster & spell and trap zones. They added the EMZ during Vrains and the extra is around 7-8 cards (can’t remember off the top of my head)

It was a good alternative format before MD on mobile though it wasn’t as F2P friendly as it is now.

Now they have box chips so you can go into old boxes to get staples/archetype cards you could only get by gambling off packs

[faint wraith]

Huh. That's neat. Kinda like the special deals in md whete they guarantee a staple card like ash?

[grand cave]

Not really

[north robin]

They have deals on certain cards.
I think they have where it’s 15 packs long with a copy of crystal wing synchro dragon

[faint wraith]

Huh. Well I may try it once Lyrilusc comes out (would be very hard to play though as we need all the zones we can get)

Is master duel online down for anyone else?

[north robin]

No, I can log in just fine

[faint wraith]

Fixed it I just needed to exit and reopen the app

[faint wraith]

An interesting quirk I found with Rulkalos's negate effect is that while it says that after her effect resolves you send 1 tear card to the gy, you only do that if something gets destroyed. So if you negate a gy effect or negate a card that has destruction protection, you fon't need to send anything (which can be good to save the effects for more crucial moments) also how super poly can trigger gy effects

[faint wraith]

Rate my tearlaments gameplay (I am open to any criticism of things I am doing wrong)

[north robin]

I don’t see anything to comment with criticism in mind. I think you played correctly with what you had in hand.
Baited the Ash with beast, book of mooning the dark blade with trap since after that it’s difficult for momento to continue their plays with outside help , and with super poly for game.

Try to train your luck stat for better mills

[faint wraith]

Yeah this is game was probably some of my worst mills ever

Also I just saw a guy who looked like a combo starter and clicked trap, then played super poly to make the most of my monsters getting flipped

[north robin]

That’s the thing with Tear mills now, they aren’t as explosive as they used to be.

Though thats pretty understandable when seeing the normal summon

[faint wraith]

Yeah. Also I had another duel I wanted to share but it's too long for discord to handle.

[north robin]

I see. Was it a long paced duel or was it against a more formidable foe?

[faint wraith]

Against a more formidable foe. Using synchrons and stuff.

I wonder if there's like a replay id

They used like jet synchron (the synchro guy that summons a ton of tuners), stardust dragon, the bystial synchro, etc.

[north robin]

Ah yes. Junk Speeder or die.

They are pretty formidable though they fold to anything negating speeder (Unless they pull a miracle follow-up) or the giant rock

[faint wraith]

And my opening hand was ash, schieren, two screams, and Suliek. Not great.

[faint wraith]

I don't have giant rock in my deck and my hand and mills weren't good so I just ended on shieren, scream, and sulliek.

Lemme see if I can cut down the video so discord will accept it.

[north robin]

Rough. A single negate with a gamble in chance.

[faint wraith]

This should work.

Hmm.. i might be able to add more to the start.

This captures the start of the opponent's turn.

[north robin]

I'd say the only misplays I see is the imperm column, which happens to everyone, and revealing suliek as it gets bounced. It's not major but better to have that baby hidden in case they pop mistaking it for another trap you might have.
Other than that I say you played fine. If the duel would continue you have Kalidoheart and redoer with two tear traps for interaction.
The only main misplay I see is from your opponent going for one "Negate" in Bystial dis pater (Unless they aren't playing the Z-ONE synchron which treats itself as a non-tuner)

[faint wraith]

I swear my brain will see a facedown and think "Hey that could be imperm" and still play something in that collum anyway.

[north robin]

For me I always realize that as I put in the same column as a face down S/T thinking "Wait do they have imperm" then have it be a 50 50 if it is

[faint wraith]

Here's the last bit of the game (yes I used my book of moon just to proc kalaido and get rid of fateful adventure)

[faint wraith]

For me it typically is imperm. Eh. Tear is all about GAMBLING baby!

[north robin]

It's like if gambling was rigged the majority of the time!

[faint wraith]

Rigged in your favor before, but now more rigged against you

My favorite play of this tear match was using redoer to proc schieren when it seemed like I had no other options. Allowed me to start my combo and beat their board.

[north robin]

You played well though my preference in this board state is to prioritize stopping synchro summons as soon as possible. They can't make their extra deck without tuners & Non-tuners (Ignore Chaos Angels in this instance. As long as they dont have one then the other won't.
Though thats only with synchrons due to how they only use synchrons compared to somthing like Tenyi Swordsoul that uses 2 extra deck summoning methods

Though Milling snow was a good payoff for book off moons

[faint wraith]

Ah. I was mainly afraid of the gryphon as I have bad experiences with it. If not for his existence I probably would've spun a face up tuner.

[north robin]

Understandable. Griffin is a bit of an issue with that board as a negate as long as the token was still up

[faint wraith]

Sure I could've just beat him over, but I didn't know what other plays the opponent had. Plus it also got me my own negate out (Rulkalos) which then let me mill (and I got lucky with snow)

[north robin]

Yeah, you had a pretty advantageous state against the Synchro player since you were up in numbers as well as soultions

[faint wraith]

While the first game I showed was a buzzer "aww dang it" game, this one was a ching "I can't stop winning!" one

[north robin]

Gambling at it's finest

[faint wraith]

I have a problem and tearlaments fuels the fire

I wish I could've played it at full power

[north robin]

It was fun at full power though Full power in MD wasn't exactly full power

[faint wraith]

What does that mean-

[north robin]

They had some preemptive hits and it still dominated

[faint wraith]

Oh yeah

Wasn't kitkalos preemptively limited?

[north robin]

TCG and OCG had tear mermaids at 3

[north robin]

Yeah.

An odd limit since most run one anyway

[faint wraith]

I find it crazy that despite all of the insane hits it's taken, it still manages to be good as long as it's not against a floodgate that specifically counters it.

Aka ariseheart and abyss dweller (and all those with similar abilities)

[north robin]

Thats the power of tear for ya. Still kicking after being knocked down so many times.
However...Being knocked down doesn't make you as invincible as you once were

And yeah. Tear did have it's far share of counters

[faint wraith]

Just wait until they bring Merrli back at one

I think that if she's limited like Havnis she'll be fine

[north robin]

Gigantic Spright being one to come close to it's power be a floodgate for both decks.
Verunslyph Madolche even put up a good fight due to the shuffle synergy for returning the tears.

Maybe though with Kash Tear, Kitkallos, and Merrli you'd have a good deep draw if you hit those

[faint wraith]

I can't really understand any of that could you explain it please-

[north robin]

Gigantic is a floodgate off of it's summon to both players locking them into link/level/rank 2s. Not to mention the new Melffy cards at the time made it have a macro the banish the GY effects of Tears too.

Vernyslyph madolche had teacher as a grave shuffler and Tiaramisu as a non-targeting field shuffler to avoid any GY effects. They also ran the isizhu cards due to the syngery with vernyslph being earth fairy support.

Kashtira Tear, Kitkallos, and Merrli has the potineal to mill around 30% percent of your deck for any GY effects you might need if they'd all be legal, That's not even counting the third tear fusion you have each turn now.

[faint wraith]

The third fusion is precisely why I want her it'd be so awesome it would be so cool

[north robin]

Although it may cause a bit of an issue with Kitkallos existing as well, I do want to see the strongest deck in history VS the strongest deck today

That being full power snake-eyes VS Full power tear

[faint wraith]

That would be such an interesting format. Especially cause the ishizu miller would also trigfer flamberge if it gets sent, furthering both plays.

[faint wraith]

Oh yeah I remember someone saying people started running two kitkalos so that they didn't just get outed by unicorn

[north robin]

Ah, true.

[north robin]

Even so, the Ishizu Shufflers can counter by shuffling back any level 1's.

Tear possibly just clears due to how many distruptions and have it still going without a dedicated floodgate

[faint wraith]

True. Luckily in platinum (I managed to demote myself) you don't see much snake eyes.

[north robin]

Mostly since they try to just climb to the top due to how strong of a board they can make

[faint wraith]

Yeah. It only really has one floodgate it uses in Windoll (making use of beast)

[grand cave]

The duality of master duel players

[north robin]

Beyond True

[grand cave]

Thoughts?

[faint wraith]

I'm kinda neutral. While I understand it's power, I do think that it can help against boards that might otherwise be unbreakable by helping to draw the out (unless they draw into nibiru in which case it can rot in hell)

[north robin]

BAN IT

[grand cave]

I think its funny

[north robin]

It can be funny at times depending on what happens

[faint wraith]

Other handtraps like ash and imperm I can handle.

Nibiru is fucking stupid

[north robin]

If it’s an answer, it’s boring. If it leads to a loss still or some other shenanigans then it’s funny

[grand cave]

Exhibit a: i am playing psy-frame, they maxx c me on my turn

Hilarious

[faint wraith]

Free monsters

[north robin]

True

[grand cave]

Or i just set a few

[north robin]

Though I agree with someone’s take on Maxx C.
The MD meta kinda is formed around if your deck had 3 Ash, 2 called by, 1 cross out, and 3 of the bug from decks that I’ve faced

[faint wraith]

Usually I can make do without crossout and depending on the deck maybe swap some handtraps out for others.

Like trade handtraps for boardbreakers.

[grand cave]

Cardcar d pass

#justpsyframethings

[faint wraith]

Cardcard pass
#justbrickthings

[grand cave]

One tech i have in psy frame is world legacy awakens

[north robin]

Whats funny about Psy Frames is that they aren't a once per turn.

If you ash it it's a waste of an issue since they can use it again

[faint wraith]

Isn't that the card that got the ib synchro banned?

[grand cave]

Idk

[north robin]

Yeah, it is

[grand cave]

Its the one that lets you link summon on trap card

[faint wraith]

Poor ib.. getting hit both in lore and as a card..

[north robin]

Ib gets better.

[faint wraith]

I know. I read the whole story.

[grand cave]

Anywho

Summoning lambda is funny

[faint wraith]

I used them in my attempt at lunalight funny enough

[north robin]

Oh yeah, shes a funny seach for sprights

I've used her to get Gamma from deck for a free monster negate during the endphase

[grand cave]

Glad and also upset everyone knows what she does

[north robin]

also a generic link-2 with 1,700 atk

[faint wraith]

Easy to bring out with a free negate if you banish another psychic monster (redoer rubbing his hands with glee)

[grand cave]

I was hoping one of you didnt know what she does so i could be like “you know how psy-frames require no monsters on field to be used? Yea lambda just says ‘f it we ball’”

[north robin]

She's even a searcher too

[faint wraith]

Nah I used her and know her power

[north robin]

Puts more icing on the Psy frames

[faint wraith]

Hmm.. nah. She probably doesn't do that well with tear.

[north robin]

Shes a powerful asset in spright though

[faint wraith]

Ok I was about to ask what if you mill all your gammas and you swapped it

[north robin]

I used to run her in my ritual spright deck with Nephynes because giant chicken & The abunance of level 2s

[north robin]

My brain kinda defaulted to tear after thinking spright

[faint wraith]

Also I'm wondering if the next ed monster I craft for tear should be little knight or abyss dweller to capitalize on level 4s

[north robin]

Depends. Do you already have an I:P and uni. If you have I:P then I'd go for little knight though if your not then i'd go for abyss dweller

[grand cave]

My list of synchros in psy frame include black rose dragon for a nuke, cyberse quantum dragon to protect lambda, enigmaster packbit for further disrupting and ancient sacred wyvern for some reason

…Why do i have ancient sacred wyvern in there

[north robin]

I mean...It's like a cheap PEP if you squint..and if your already at a surplus on LP

[grand cave]

Surplus bad with him

[north robin]

Dont you want to get more life points with Sacred wyvern?

Also Cyberse Quantum Dragon is an Odd but surprisingly powerful choice.
With a link monster it's basically an extra deck Blue-Eyes jet dragon though instead of destruction protection for your other cards, it's targetting protection which can be benefitcial in some cases that destruction isn't present.
Also the bounce effect is Non-targeting non-destruction removal on both turns techinally. Get's rid of a lot of big floaters for those who can't read

Also he looks cool

[faint wraith]

Got down to 900 lp against a hero deck (I made some mistakes) and had no monsters, primitive planet, and 2 tear traps. One draw to change it all.

And my savior Reinohart appeared (the one card combo saves the day)

[north robin]

Ironic considering what Reinohart does in lore.

[faint wraith]

I forgot what he does in lore

Also faced a tear mirror. Went second. Guess how that game went.

[north robin]

Basically He takes over the Tear world until Vistas & his trusty Funko Pop Scareclaw comes to save the day with the help of the tear mermaids

[faint wraith]

Yeah I thought he was like a dictator and a funny bit about Kalaidoheart not being able to be used as fusion material is a nod to how he doesn't want to fuse with Visas again.

[faint wraith]

Watched duellogs video on visas lore. Makes sense on how kashteara and kitkalos have the same stats.

[faint wraith]

My take on part of why tear is so good is that it doesn't really use resources like other decks do. Typically, if you use fusion stuff from the graveyard, you have to banish them which removes them from play entirely wothout certain cards to retrieve them. Tear, however, is able to use the gy as basically a second hand, and if they get lucky with their mills, could easily just never run out of resources by shuffling cards back into the deck. Along with the fact that the gy fusion effects doesn't really limit WHAT you can fusion summon so long as the fusion effect monster works as material. That, provided with easy milling, made tear very consistent before all the hits, and while not as consistent, is still really good purely because of how strong the mechanics are.

[faint wraith]

Brought out Winda against raidraptor

Teehee

[north robin]

Summon limit but better on legs

[faint wraith]

Cause when your turn comes around you can just use some effect to get rid of her (such as fusing her away into drago to put her back in the ed) while it limits your opponent well.

[north robin]

Yeah, Winda is kinda is one sided in most situations.
She can easily be remove wheen you don't need her with either a fusion, tributing, or a Link play.

[faint wraith]

And your opponent can't destroy her with card effects, so it's much harder to remove her. Especially if you have other tear interactions.

[north robin]

Shes also around the 2,200 k attack range too so unless you have something that doesn't destroy that can remove her or a good monster to beat over her.
You'll most likely be passing

[faint wraith]

Add primeivel planet in there and she becomes 2700 k, making her even harder to beat over if you're going second.

[faint wraith]

The tearlament monsters are so pretty..

[north robin]

Agreed. When it comes to their designs they pulled off these gems of the sea pretty well along.

[faint wraith]

I love their color scheme it just looks so good

[north robin]

They excelled at using the underwater environment to their advantage with contrasts of blue and shades of purple.

[faint wraith]

Purple is my favorite color and I love underwater settings. The combo is really pleasing to the eyes and then you add the waifu aspect.

[north robin]

Their clothing as well also compliments the aesethic as well. The gem like designss on them makes them appear more like stained glass which is complimented more bu the lighting giving them a sort of shiny look.

[faint wraith]

Even Kashteara manages to keep some of the tearlament design while using the kashtira color scheme.

[north robin]

That's true. Though swapping out the blues for red and adapting some of the qualites of the Kashes looks into tear kash

Even in Kitkallo's/Rukallo's Mannadium form changes as well by having more their aquatic features bounce off the light more effectively

[faint wraith]

I haven't actually gotten a good look at the mannadium form.

[faint wraith]

Oh wow they do make it work well.

It does look a bit odd, as the colors don't match the best with the yellow light, but it still looks pretty good.

[north robin]

I think the yellow light does work in its favor a bit to make it more “heavenly” from the manndium aesthetic though I’m indifferent about the armor.
Its not bad by any means but seems more odd having it on Kitkallos

Also it’s Kinda funny that Rukallos/Kitkallos has a different form in almost every Vistas archetype except Scareclaw. Mostly due to Scareclaw being first and tears coming after.

[faint wraith]

You could say the same about scareclaw- wait I forget does scareclaw have a mannadium form or is scareclaw's extra form lightheart?

[north robin]

Kinda? I don’t count primeheart since primeheart is suppose to be a reflection of Astroloud’s corrupt form.

[faint wraith]

Who's primeheart? Is that just Astroloud?

[north robin]

Primeheart is the 4th boss form of the manndium Vistas

[faint wraith]

Ohhh that guy

Yeah he wouldn't be a scareclaw guy he's a manndium guy

[north robin]

Also he’s suppose to go toe to toe with A combined form of Vistas and 3 of his counter parts but Primehearts seems to be the weakest/underpowered card game wise

[faint wraith]

Strong lore wise weak game wise always sucks..

[north robin]

Yeah

[faint wraith]

Turns out Tear gy abilities trigger from nibiru.

[north robin]

Yup, the effect is to send them to the GY by tributing

Doesn’t really matter since you’ll probably have Rukallos to negate it

[faint wraith]

Unless I gun for her I don't have her before 5 summons, and then I usually don't have other plays I can make that turn if I do unless I have a spell or trap to set up.

[north robin]

Unfortunately true

[faint wraith]

At the very least, they typically end up using it while I have kitkalos on the field, and that lets me potentially get lucky and mill a schieren.

[faint wraith]

I got a holo alt art winda

[grand cave]

Ever craft a royal linkuriboh

[north robin]

Nope

[faint wraith]

No

[north robin]

Nice

[faint wraith]

My tear deck now has extra style (still no royals.. lots of holos though)

[north robin]

The holos are at least a nice shine on some cards

[north robin]

Wait...does that mean you own one?

[faint wraith]

Yeah I have holo kitkalos, Rulkalos, dragostepelia, alt art winda, schieren, reinoheart, and sea mare

Oh and primeval planet is holo

[north robin]

All cards you'll probably see in game anyway due to having acess to most of them

[faint wraith]

Yep. And I just have extra incentive to search specific ones (also winda alt art looks so good)

[grand cave]

Yep

[north robin]

That's awesome. Linkuriboh is so versatile in a bunch of decks.

[grand cave]

And guess where im using him

[faint wraith]

Snake eyes fire king

[north robin]

Kinda hard since he fits in so many decks.
Snake eyes is probably a safe bet though is it...Altergeist?

[grand cave]

Kuribohs

[grand cave]

Shut up no

[north robin]

That's cool

Is it more of a link variant or a rank 1 turbo?

[grand cave]

Just kuribohs

[faint wraith]

Just messing with you. I use it in Lyrilusc.

[north robin]

Or something janky like The winged kuriboh card that can max it's atttack massive

[grand cave]

Control

[north robin]

Gotcha

[north robin]

https://tenor.com/view/nibiru-the-primal-being-gif-25753169

[faint wraith]

I think that part of what makes alt art winda so cool os that her dragon actually looks disturbing in the summon animation.

[north robin]

Bear-skin rug de fleur

[grand cave]

Dragon?

[faint wraith]

The puppet thing she's with

[grand cave]

That is a horse

[faint wraith]

That is not a fucking horse

[grand cave]

That is a horse

[north robin]

It the wyrm monster Pulao, wind of theYang zing

[grand cave]

She is on a horse

PH

OH

I AM SO SORRY

I CANNOT READ

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CARD

[north robin]

Your a yugioh player. We all cant read

[grand cave]

ON THE PICTURE

WHOOPS

[north robin]

[grand cave]

yea that is a dragon

[faint wraith]

Were you thinking about another Shaddoll?

Ah

[faint wraith]

Yeah and in the alt art on summon it actually looks really unnerving

[north robin]

understandable due to the Shaddolls just corroding their bodies and mind

[faint wraith]

Eh?

Also her normal art doesn't look nearly as menacing

[north robin]

It's the duel terminal lore

The shaddoll core corrupting cards like the ritual beasts, Yang Zings, Gishkis, and even the Qli at some point

[faint wraith]

Ohh interesting. So the shaddoll cards are other cards but corrupted?

[north robin]

Yup

[faint wraith]

Pretty cool. I can tell windego is the fish one

[faint wraith]

My reaction to that information

[north robin]

True fear.

[grand cave]

You know a funny deck

Flower cardian

[faint wraith]

Bringing in Linguriboh to the world chalice battles just to prevent iblee lock

[faint wraith]

The deck used by the prison gang leader in arc v

[grand cave]

Probably

I do not remember

I love drawing half my deck turn 1

Either i scoop go next or combo for the next 10 or so minutes

There is no in between

[north robin]

Ah yes. The card game within the card game.

[faint wraith]

You probably forgot cause it's in the synchro arc

[grand cave]

Now with war crimes

[north robin]

True

[grand cave]

De-synchro summon back 3 go +17 goes hard

[north robin]

Also the flower cardians being the ones to have the opponent Maxx C be a win condition due to how much they special summon

Pretty funny.

[grand cave]

Ive been thinking of running card destruction

[faint wraith]

I once lost a game to mayakushi or however you say it cause they decked me out after I used maxx c

[north robin]

Yeah, Mayakashi can do that unless you have a nib. Or a crow. or an imperm before daki.

[faint wraith]

I was recommended to add the danger engine into tear and it actually helps quite a bit with consistency

[north robin]

More gambling!

Actually, Moth man/Nessi/Jackolope/Tsuk ain’t a bad engine

All SRs except moth man which is like an N. Not bad along with the discard trigger the GY effects in the deck

Moth man Especially since its discard effect is a free send effect from hand

[faint wraith]

I mainly use nessie and mothman. 3 nessie (cause it can be used for kit and kaleido) and one mothman in case nessie discards itself.

Plus even if you get nothing else useful, Nessie can be a good size body on the board.

[north robin]

It’s also a draw as well so a body and a sub for whatever is in you hand is still pretty good

Just remember to set the cards you don’t want to gamble with

[faint wraith]

Yeah. Though there are points with monsters like scheiren that I don't want to discard just yet, but don't want to summon her either. And then she gets discarded.

[north robin]

Tis the price of doubling down when gambling

[faint wraith]

But that's just part of the appeal of playing tear

Also I did a pull on the tear secret pack to try and finish up my deck, got no tear sr or ur, but it gave me accesscode talker so I can't be too mad.

[north robin]

An accesscode is always nice.
Unless you already have one.

[faint wraith]

I did not, so he is very welcome here.

[north robin]

Pairs well with a link charmer+Selene or a Transcode+Jammer combo

[grand cave]

[north robin]

Used to be a staple in my old cyberse decks for Salads and Code talkers

Until we got the new cards for Salads and my Code talkers turned into a playmaker like deck which now uses Neo Tempest Terahertz instead to make itself bigger than access code

[faint wraith]

What are salads? I've heard them brought up a few times in yugioh

[north robin]

Salads is the community nickname for Salamangreats

[faint wraith]

Oh that stupid shit

I keep a special ignister golem in my extra deck just for those freaks

[north robin]

They also have their own version of that. Just limiting it to a salad rather than a Cyberse

[faint wraith]

No hate to the people who use it, I just don't like the deck.

[north robin]

That’s understandable

[faint wraith]

Not too fond of link spam (former dragon link player, yes I'm a hypocrite)

[north robin]

It ends on a spell speed 3 trap, a board breaking link monster, and princess/phoneix for a disrupption as a summon

[faint wraith]

Hate counter traps (hides my cryme behind my back)

[north robin]

It also comes back if you reincarne link summon (Salads gimmick from the anime of using a salad of the same name for it's link summon for extra effects)

[faint wraith]

Oh I've played against plenty to know they're gimmick. The first combo deck I faced in master duel was a salad deck.

[north robin]

Makes sense since they are budget friendly

Being a structure deck and evloving with the fire stuff

[faint wraith]

Sure didn't seem like it

[faint wraith]

Oh it's a structure?

[north robin]

Yeah, you basically get a majority of what you need to start. They even get you Cynet mining which is huge when deciding on going to another cyberse deck

[faint wraith]

That fucking spell

Without that spell it wouldn't be nearly as strong

[north robin]

They still have a search spell

Correction: A Quickplay search spell

[faint wraith]

But not one that brings easy link fodder like mining

[north robin]

That is true though Salads are good with recycling their cards with sunlight wolf so they can bring it back for next turn

Not to mention they have a soul charge.

After their link-4 you can search for Will and bring back 4 salads from grave for a link play

Not to mention you can even get will back from grave with something like sunlight wolf

[faint wraith]

Who's will

[north robin]

It just the name of the card

Will of the salamangreats

[faint wraith]

Oh

So they just have a free reborn 4

[north robin]

It’s a bit of a funny card

[faint wraith]

*Broken

[north robin]

Now it is

It was pretty good back then since it was a reborn though now you can use the second effect more consistently

[faint wraith]

HAHAHA TAKE THAT STUN

[north robin]

Deserved. Stun decks should perish.

[faint wraith]

Let me play the game, fucker

[north robin]

So glad Mystic mine is still banned in MD

[faint wraith]

I'd start running 3 tear hearbeats if it wasn't

[north robin]

I'd probably run cosmic cyclones in the main.

[faint wraith]

Heartbeat benifits tear more and also shuffles to make it tough for them to get it back in case they have ways to recover banished cards, but yeah any backrow removal.

[north robin]

In tear it is better though I'd prefer not to have the shuffle it in deck in case they run demise of the land

[faint wraith]

Wassat

[north robin]

A card which sets a field spell from deck when your oppenent special summons

Used in Mine decks to have mine's one sided skill drain

[faint wraith]

That exists and isn't banned?