#Rank 1 Juno's Awakening guide

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marble grove
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the new awakenings are fire up which u only take if infinite and ur team is taking

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catalyst which lowkey might be pretty good but i never take it

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and egoist which is solid if u have some other energy regen to pair with it and as long as the other team doesnt have alot of must dodge abilities like luna ult

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oh and stacks on stacks is really good if u arent dying

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its wild somehow before evrey major tourney i play in juno is in piss tier

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if teams where actually smart they would leave it up vs me because of how bad it is

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ofc they wont teams cant understand that concept

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but dam

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and she will probably still get nerfed next patch anyway

remote oar
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🧢

remote oar
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I will continue to be a juno believer

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please don't nerf anymore though. and maybe revert the bugfix please

mild atlas
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Is wand still bis

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It might be over...

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Energy awakenings all A tier imo

marble grove
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Nah wand is like useless now

mild atlas
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wtf

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its so doomed

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time to go back to slicks

marble grove
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for refrence i only take wand on demon dias

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and only into heavy damage

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but evreyone plays heavy damage on demon so its a must pick

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the champ sucks on demon unless u ask the people in my group today who would tell u its the best thing since sliced bread

snow shard
marble grove
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catalyst + one other energy awakgening claps

rustic vault
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it's in the name

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catalyst is the.. catalyst to other energy awakenings

marble grove
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real

snow shard
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they seem fun together but if you don't get lucky oof and I'm almost always last in the draft

remote oar
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I like catalyst a lot on its own but the other two without any other energy training kinda don't feel great

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so I'll take catalyst with about the same priority as glass cannon, then I'll take egoist if I already have catalyst as an option

marble grove
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catalyst by itself is pretty good into heavy damage for the extra dodges u can get

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i should take it more but its often taken early in the drafts

mild atlas
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Gravity what are your thoughts on vambrace juno

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Might start taking it

marble grove
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on the lowest of keys is might not be throwing

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but id only take it on demon

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u probably dont need teh hp on other maps

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i thought about it i might try it out soon

mild atlas
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I die frequently

snow shard
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why is demon so bad for juno i haven't noticed any thing that makes it harder than other maps. unlike ai.mi's app where the kills are free beause every one in silver forgets i can punch them in to the well

remote oar
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demon dais ends up being kill heavy for a small assortment of reasons and juno doesn't play well into it

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personally I also find core control and securing barrier hits on the map to be exceptionally strange. the approach is very different from just about anything else

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I'm not convinced it's bad but I just haven't been able to figure it out

tender star
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gravity

mild atlas
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gravity

marble grove
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With surge start its actually not unplayable

scarlet shale
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Gravity JunoShy

worldly compass
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GravityJunoShy

marble grove
marble grove
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juno blobbos dont move mid jump

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what a strange mechanic

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its probably intentoinal

mild atlas
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What

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Awww

marble grove
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After playing in the tourney today my eyes have truly been opened this champ still sucks

brisk shell
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juno is so broken she is so oooo broken

mild atlas
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she needs another nerf i think

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remove the slime in the middle of her ult

remote marsh
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Hey can someone give me the link to the tierlist? I'm on mobile web and don't wanna scroll all the way up

marble grove
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I'll make a new one rn

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1 sec

marble grove
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just made it real quick since i had some things i wanted to adjust for the old list

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energy awakenings arent on there but

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catalyst is like high b tier low a tier

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fire up is only take if infinite and ur teams taking it even then its pretty meh

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and egoist is low b tier

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but after making this i realized how situational her drafts are so its important to learn the sernergys between her awakenings and when u can take stuff for example dont take stacks if ur dying alot

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if anyone ever has a question about what they shuold have took in an awakening draft send me the screenshot and ill let you know

remote marsh
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Thank you!

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I thought I was the only guy who couldn't handle the prop JulietteSad

marble grove
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To much range for 1 man to handle

mild atlas
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Where is reverberation

marble grove
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Totally forgot that was an awakening

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It's around low b tier

mild atlas
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hmmmge

remote oar
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extra special??

mild atlas
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It's on the tier list bestie

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Mid b tier

junior zealot
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Missile prop would probably be good if they let us short throw blobs :(

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Decent on goal though if you want to support midfield a bit more at least?

tender star
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missile prop is wis on juno bcz of the ultimate bug

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shrimple as

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the blobs take like 10 years to fall from the sky

cobalt rock
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Even if it fucks her ults

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It does massively power up her primaries

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As goalie at least

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Since you don't usually do vertical setup plays

mild atlas
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Strike shot aerials missile prop so your slimes cross the entire map

marble grove
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i think the goalie players are trolling out of there minds by taking missle

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but i also dont play goalie

mild atlas
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Strike shot Juno goes hard

junior zealot
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Strike shot juno does not go hard

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Burning the cd on a blob redirect sucks

junior zealot
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The downside is still absolutely there, but the ability to send a blob past midfield can be pretty good if you can get away with it

cobalt rock
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With the tiers being BIS -> A -> B -> C -> WIS

junior zealot
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That sounds about right to me

brisk shell
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juno goalie players are trolling out of their minds

fluid wolf
marble grove
fluid wolf
mild atlas
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juno players are trolling out of their minds

brisk shell
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reasl

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real

remote oar
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there's no way it's that high

marble grove
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Pretty much it's only good on demon

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But it's very good on demon

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Some value on night market too

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It's also most champs absolute bis so u gotta take it alot anyway

remote oar
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actually I can see that

marble grove
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Happy star is so broken juno ult just sucks

remote oar
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glad i asked because the tier list decimated that nuance and this looks just not remotely right in general

marble grove
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Twin realistically should be higher buts value only shines when u have one of the jump range increase awakenings outside of that I rally only need the 1 jump

remote oar
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beyond that I guess the main point of disagreement is that I am a believer in size juno

marble grove
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High key I think size is not good at all juno has so many ways to checkmate win strike wars that extra size isn't necessary tho I'm pretty much the only player who utilizes it so size might work well for others

remote oar
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do those ways to checkmate win strike wars involve cds

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if so size has a place imo

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even in that playstyle

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it's also, like happy star, sometimes a very good deny

marble grove
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Denying size happens alot since brawlers exist but for yourself simply learn to strike war better

remote oar
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I made my own a while back and ordering things by category instead of traditional tiers results in some weird ordering but the broad strokes feel right for me

marble grove
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Juno can take like 80% of strike wars at an advantage already depending on map

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Also can't confirm but juno slime hit box starts from behind her so ppl can stand on u easier

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In tourney smart players will actively sit on me if I'm in a threatening spot to invalidate my whole kit already

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Twins good into those players

remote oar
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I'm genuinely not sure there is such a thing as winning strike wars reliably through a size diff against good players

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it materially affects the fundamental nature of those interactions, it's not a crutch to bridge a skill gap

marble grove
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Nah no cap size is a crutch all size is doing in a strike war is giving u more time to react in a strike war which btw can be a good amount of time at lower core speeds especially

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Ofc the champs that size change matters most on is ofc the bigger hit box champs it'd why BD x is so cancer to beat in a strike war

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Best way to increase ur odds of winning a strike war is always move speed

mild atlas
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i thought the best way to increase ur odds of winning strike wars was lowering your ping

brisk shell
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if i had a nickle every time gravity said only he could play juno correctly

remote oar
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I'm extremely cautious of people saying "it's bad because it's a crutch" after watching the entire playerbase sleep on quick respawn for 70% of splatoon 1's lifespan

marble grove
ebon scarab
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why is slick kicks better than sloes

marble grove
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Ultimately it's preference but I think it's better for a few reasons 1 u can dribble better 2 it gives more speed for longer. 3 I can proc it anywhere which helps alot defensively and offensively. 4 after winning a strike war if ur opponent does not have slicks I can postion in front of them making it so they have 0 chance to win a follow up strike war

ebon scarab
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good to know

bright trout
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Is deadeye really that good for Juno? I figured her abilities weren’t within the range requirement, any anyone explain the value they bring?

mild atlas
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Hits core at higher speed

remote oar
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her abilities do go far enough to meet range req and the way the distance calculation works means it's actually quite lenient

marble grove
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With siphoning nerfs it's more rare to play for damage now

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But playing for damage is viable. in NASL today I played full damage juno game 2

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It requires alot of awakenings tho and is mostly better on smaller maps aka not a them or oni

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Core speed is good on juno as well which desdeye provides

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Tbh deadeye is probably an a tier awakening

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I've been playing alot alot less recently so I'm not really 100% sure on awakenings rn

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I pretty much only play to warmup for tourneys

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Oh also deadeyes best feature is if u hit someone who is close to core with projectile and immediately stroke with blob its a free strike war win without deadeys its either A not possible or B has a really tight timing

mild atlas
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Does it not work with hot shot

marble grove
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If ur referring to the core speed yes it does

bright trout
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Thanks for the insight Gravity I’ll have to try it out sometime

fast flower
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ok so question because I haven't seen it recently, what's the veredict about the energy talents on Juno?

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also I imagine the "stagger buff" awakenings are not that good on her correct?

marble grove
marble grove
fast flower
marble grove
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nah the actual cdr for reverb isnt neraly as good

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even tho cdr is one of junos best stats

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its like 10% cdr

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its not terrible

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but imo its the worst of the 3

fast flower
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hmm I see, guess it's still worth it for the power up to both others, but good to know

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one change I would maybe like to see what an awakening that added "creation speed" as a stat so Juno's blobbos, Era's tornado and Asher's shield could move faster too

snow shard
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catalyst dose make the other energy ones better so if you have it and there is nothing else that you want in the draft you will likeling at least enjoy the results

spark flare
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any1 got the updated tier list

marble grove
spark flare
rustic vault
supple sun
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leaked dms??????? AsherPog

rustic vault
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definitely not just something I posted in the juno main discord when people were asking if reverberation was any good

marble grove
cold quest
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Yo jus saw this list somehow Ty

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Amazing tl

supple sun
rustic vault
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almost every character has their own discord. unofficial though, ran by community members mostly

cobalt rock
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Yee

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I don't know who would moderate such a Discord though

mild atlas
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its a secret, underground business you see

brisk shell
mild atlas
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They also chase the core from a longer range I think

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I miss adren rush Juno slimes chasing the core across map

marble grove
mild atlas
ebon scarab
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im really noticing how weak juno is now after the update Junowhy

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i get bullied by an X or Juliette, or just any brawlers really, and i get stomped on and i just cant help my goalie much either

marble grove
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Tho juno actually has really good tools to counter x

urban herald
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are perfect form and one two punch any good on juno?

cobalt rock
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1-2 if you're running a funny Pummelers build

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PF I think is mid, but Hot Shot is just better

mild atlas
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Me when they rotate in three bad awakenings for Juno

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Guess it's time to full time aimi

rustic vault
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no onetwo punch is new juno meta u don't get it

mild atlas
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So true

marble grove
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Pf is borderline do not pick tier

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And one two is really hard to proc

rustic vault
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unironically sparks would have been better choices

mild atlas
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Okay but gravity hasn't seen the prize fighter juno

marble grove
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juno is easily the worse champ u can play on the patch and its not close

mild atlas
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What about octavia

dapper radish
mild atlas
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It's mostly because the past like

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Seven patches or so

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Haven't been super good for juno

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And the newest awakening rotation is 3 bad awakenings and one okay awakening for juno

marble grove
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She's just worse than evrey other midfield the one advantage that she offered core control isn't really that strong rn imo

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It's not like she's unplayable u won't lose the game for picking her

rustic vault
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besides finii she is the only midfielder that doesn't have a piercing/impact primary

dapper radish
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I feel I have the most controls over cross shootings with her and the needed X factor to do surprise goals

marble grove
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Ye but as u get to higher levels of play the surprise factor loses its surprise aspect

dapper radish
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At least in Gold where I'm at rn

rustic vault
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juno in low elo is vastly stronger than juno in high elo purely from the fact that she gets goals by making enemies more likely to misplay

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that does not happen at high elo

marble grove
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Ye

dapper radish
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Gotta practice the Estelle and Vyce more then ig

marble grove
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Junos dominance in lower elo is pretty much the reason she will be weak in high elo

rustic vault
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I mean there's no harm in playing juno high elo if you want

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she's definitely not the strongest atm though

marble grove
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Just play who u wanna play tho I hit top 10 when Juno was considered the weakest champ in the game

dapper radish
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I will still play her but to build up alternatives

marble grove
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Ye it's nice to have alts my alts also are estelle and vyce

mild atlas
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I've been playing aimi more lately because I get a bis awakening on start more often

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Also ggs yesterday gravity

dapper radish
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Can I see my stats anywhere? Would like to see my Juno WR

marble grove
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Strikr

mild atlas
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Only the ogs remember corestrike

dapper radish
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61,3

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it's ok ig

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"Due to how data is provided we are limited to showing ranked stats only for the top 10k players of each region."
Oof

mild atlas
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61 is pretty good

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Mines like 53

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56*

dapper radish
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Well I'm only mid gold yet

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I have 0 clue how high that is

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Or where the median of players is

mild atlas
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Winrate also barely matters

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If I made a new account id get like 95% winrate

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I think most players are plat / diamond

dapper radish
mild atlas
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Because you get more elo than you lose in lower ranks

dapper radish
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It tells me im top 7% with mid gold

mild atlas
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I think rookie gains like 40 LP for a win and loses 2 for a loss

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Most active players I mean

dapper radish
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Well ok I started a week ago why do I complain LOL

mild atlas
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If u started only a week ago you'll hit plat or diamond eventually

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Even challenger

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I've seen some absolute garbage players in challenger like me

dapper radish
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#1 Juno Player Kappa

mild atlas
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Yea

marble grove
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won a whole tourney without playing juno

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this champ is so bad

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please buff

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but they wont

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cause of low elo

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i cry

dapper radish
cobalt rock
dapper radish
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The chars I just started playing lmao

marble grove
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The current meta is throw all ur hitboxes out and 1 shot the enemy team

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Era doesnt work for that

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I only play drek on demon dias tho

mild atlas
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I hear that Juno character is pretty broken

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So much so that she needed some nerfs to be toned down

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Thoughts on picking her up?

marble grove
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The rumors must be true since she gets nerfed evrey patch

dapper radish
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So gonna play Juli then

mild atlas
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You're chill with Juno if you want to play her

cold quest
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I dont get juno nerfs rn

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its really hard to get success with her

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except low elo ig?

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I struggling to find wins and make a bigger impact

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but am just a solo que as of rn

cobalt rock
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She's lowkey honestly just fine till Chall

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and then past that, you have to put in infinitely more effort

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to get the same value of like a Rasmus, Drek'ar or Era

marble grove
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ye juno just is not in a good spot rn her scoring pressure is weak and she has to chose between damage and core control where other mids can do both

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also having no peirce in her kit is a terrible hinderince

cobalt rock
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I suggested this a long time ago, but I would've liked to see Juno's primary pierce, and the slime end up where it would have if the primary pierces

cold quest
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would be nice

marble grove
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the change that needs to happen is A revert to old juno ult where its just a rune pillar or b remove the slime from her secondary and make it so when she lands it does an aoe impact

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idc which change they do but one of them needs to happen or she will be piss tier forever

cold quest
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yeah ive gotten to the point where maybeeee I should learn someone new

mild atlas
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wdym old juno ult

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was juno different in like

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alpha

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or something

marble grove
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Ye something like that

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@cobalt rock knows

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I actually don't know it

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Any footage?

cobalt rock
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Think of it like a single placeable slime

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longer range than rune

cobalt rock
# mild atlas wdym old juno ult

But yeah, old Juno ult was like a single slime you could place. It's basically the size of a Rune pillar (relative to the map, her slimes used to be bigger in alpha). Its cast range was longer than Rune pillar. You could cover about 1/3 of the pitch horizontally with it, if I recall correctly.

dapper radish
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Can someone tells me what influences the amount of ult blobs?

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I have had times where it spawned 1

rich fog
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you get one additional blob for each enemy and the core in it, so up to 5

dapper radish
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Oh

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100 games on juno btw JunoClown

rich fog
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i think it took me like 100 games in too before i read the description

dapper radish
cold quest
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thats wild

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different juno ult

brisk shell
cobalt rock
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But they said it was a bug

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xdd

marble grove
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So now that nasl is finished I probably won't be playing the game anymore or the very least at a high level so I won't be making anymore tier list

mild atlas
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Who has to take up the mantle

marble grove
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I heard puffyFPS may be on the juno grind

mild atlas
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hmmge

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what if im the one to post the next juno tier list

cobalt rock
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game gaming

mild atlas
dapper radish
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I'll remember you if I play this game more than 6 weeks I'll probably stick with it

mild atlas
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I miss gravity already

rustic vault
sick nymph
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bye gravity...

lilac breach
ebon scarab
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see you, bye bye

lilac breach
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bye gravity

fluid wolf
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its joever

cold quest
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Gravity nooo

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Sad

snow shard
cold quest
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Where be the Juno buffs

marble grove
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Only in my dreams 😦

lilac breach
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No Juno buffs because of blobbos

dapper radish
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I love this pic

cold quest
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Nerf blobs but buff tf out of Juno

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The compromise surely works

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Gravity teach me the ways of the low tier so I don't stop dragging down my team

scarlet shale
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Ody buff juno 😡

lilac breach
ebon scarab
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make juno faster when she walks over her blobbos

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or a speed boost after using her secondary

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wait having both a dash and haste would probably make juno too good

cold quest
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Lmao

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Just make Juno op

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I wanna have fun smh

fluid wolf
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real

mild atlas
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What Juno actually needs is an awakening rotation

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So many awakenings are mid, meanwhile zentaro is getting 6 bis per draft

lilac breach
marble grove
rotund saffron
# marble grove

Oooh, I got an idea of what awakening to take. Have been just taking creation all the way but after some time playing her, realized her primary has more uses than just summoning

dapper radish
rotund saffron
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Ahhh, the extended jump range is just chef's kiss

IFFFFFF

Your forward and goalie now how to bloody passKaiThisIsFine

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But when they do pass to you

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It's just

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Ahh

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The goals

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the guard breaks

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Lots of clips flow in

fluid wolf
mild atlas
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I am officially an aerials believer now

cold quest
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Aerials op

worldly compass
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tempo swing, monu, rapid fire, one two punch, deadeye trust AimiSip JunoFight

cold quest
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uhhhh

fluid wolf
cobalt rock
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@marble grove DID YOU SEE THE MASSIVE JUNO BUFFS

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HOLYYYYY

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JUNO GOT 50 STAGGER

marble grove
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NO WAY NOT A WHOLE 50

mortal hornet
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50!?!?

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In this economy???

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Juno mains eating good

snow shard
marble grove
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It's not like it's bad it just doesn't really make her better in any meaningful way

lilac breach
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I'll take what I can get JUNOLETSGOOO

mild atlas
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S tier

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juno top 3

robust loom
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Fr

glass flume
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JUNO SWEEP

regal dune
junior zealot
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Wow this probably makes juno not get staggered by one whole combo

robust loom
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Juno can finally survive being breathed on AsherPog

cold quest
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Surely next patch they prolly take away more stagger than they gave

brisk shell
marble grove
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game just skill gaps

rustic vault
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yeah goomy game is gapping cause of the 50 stagger buff

brisk shell
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real

mild atlas
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Juno secondary cd reduction

marble grove
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ye its pretty chill

snow shard
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that makes me real happy

cobalt rock
marble grove
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Ye probably

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Only super chill if space princess juno comes out for s2

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Can't belive i retired before a skin that was teased back in early testing came out

cobalt rock
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@marble grove Stonks

sick nymph
marble grove
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yep they are literally evrey proposed change i had for the champ

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honstley shocked they where all aproved

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got to test it a while back its not turbo OP but it drastaicly changes how u should play the champ

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i might make a mini guide on the new way to play her

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but thats alot of work for a game i dont have installed

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NOWNDOWNAODBNAWONNOOOOOOOOOO

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NO FUCKING WAY

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NO

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GAMES EDAED

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FUCK

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WHO APPROOVED THE RUNE MAP

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WHO WOULD DO SUCH A STUP8ID THING

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HOW IS THAT LIVE

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i was gonna reinstall

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but no

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not anymroe

fluid wolf
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It can't be that bad

marble grove
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NAH BUT IT IS

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it has to have been reworked

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theres not way it hasnt been

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no gameplay mechanice on a map has ever been so little fun

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if its been reworked

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maybe its chill

mortal hornet
marble grove
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esstially there is portals on teh map that players and the core/players can walk thougth

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these portals can spawn in the goal box

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which even in concept u can probably understand how this may be a problem

mortal hornet
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from what it looks like, it seems limited to a handful of spots now

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the corners/3 wall spots

marble grove
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yep games over

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is there a cd on them now

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please

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tell me there is

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i very very strongly dislike this map THO thbat being said juno is super good on it

mortal hornet
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do u think juno is premium core stuffer now with the way cd gets refunded when you strike with a blobbo

marble grove
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no because the combo is actually pretty hard to pull off

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tho if u can pull it off its very hard to stop

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giga pro tip for winning evrey game on rune map on juno if portal spawns in goalie box just sit there

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an win

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u throw blobbos from a far to win mid control

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if goalie trys to clear through portal u come thorugh

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if in comms with teammate ur teammate can cross it to u and then u come out of portal

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its so stupid

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there is not less exciting gameplay

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u jsut play 2nd goalie but its ok cause at any point of time u can teleport into there net

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also inkys map winning kick off is evreything

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so go really hard on winning kick off

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if u take the first barrier and u lose u suck

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use the giant beam to destroy evreyones will to live

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and set up ur brawler with a dimer at light sppeeds

cobalt rock
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@marble grove also, juno's slimes feel like they hold on forever now

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they changed it from 0.25 to 0.75 now

marble grove
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they do do that

cobalt rock
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wait no

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0.15 to 0.25

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hold duration

marble grove
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ye its just a bit

cobalt rock
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it feels a lot longer

marble grove
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it adds up on shit like ult

cobalt rock
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but I'll get used to it

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ig

marble grove
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just manually redirect evreything

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thers no reason not too

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unless u wanna mix up the goalie

graceful timber
marble grove
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shes so fun to play now

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evreything just feels smooth

dapper radish
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Does EVERYTHING go through portals?

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or more important do the blobbos

marble grove
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projectiles do not

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only players and core

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i dont think blobbos go thorugh

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if they could that would be so turbo brokwn

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but u can just walk thourhg throw one and then walk back

dapper radish
marble grove
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holy shit how real is that

dapper radish
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hm?

mortal hornet
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alcohol free beer is in fact real

marble grove
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sorry my teams way of speaking has corrupted me

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that just means hes so right

dapper radish
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Ah I wasn't sure if you just saw something new about rune map lol

fluid wolf
marble grove
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LMAO

cold quest
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Juno buff go so hard goddam

cobalt rock
cold quest
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Yeah

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And now you can spam do it cause u get cd back

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No punishment for doing it

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It fixed my biggest issue with manual redirecting

graceful timber
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cant wait for 500 apm gameplay manually redirecting every slime in a 5-slime ult

snow shard
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It can't believe we've gotten 3 Buffs in a row. And they removed demon days.

marble grove
cold quest
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Now I'm def getting perma banned tn

mortal hornet
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juno finally S tier

marble grove
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well this fucking sucks

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lillybun found this

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aka THE LITEARL MOST IMPORTANT PART OF JUMP STRIKE DOES NOT FUCKING WORK

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HELLO

mild atlas
cobalt rock
fluid wolf
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i thought my time was up

cobalt rock
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so it looks like

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it works really well if you're midair

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but is terrible if you're landing

ebon scarab
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JUNO BUFFS JUNOLETSGOOO

ebon scarab
cold quest
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Why does juno still not workkk

snow shard
cold quest
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Need fixed tn pls ody lmao

marble grove
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probably wont be fixed for 2 weeks

cold quest
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Rip my osas run

snow shard
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i hope they fix it soon my main straitagy lately has been grabing as many of the dash boosters that i am abale as being able to get to the to the other goal from any where on the map seems real good

ebon scarab
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@marble grove do you think juno is good rn?

marble grove
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yes

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look at this game from zzz

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despite what that game might have u belive shes not op

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shes just a solid pick

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shes much harder than she used to be

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well her skill celing is way higher anyway

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i think when players start getting closer to her skill celing she may be to strong

ebon scarab
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thank you for your input, ill start playing her more now

dapper radish
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My heart bleeds

cobalt rock
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Here's another example

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(not me, zzZ again)

ebon scarab
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the dmg is insane EraBocchi

fluid wolf
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55k

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😩

regal dune
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yeah juno feels good

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once landing jump bug is fixed at the very least she seems v strong in solo queue

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(n she prolly already is)
unsure abt high lvl comp play

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very high chance juno is seen in bff or nasl today/tmrw imo

marble grove
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how is this champ not banned from nasl

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i love players being ignored in nasl lounge

regal dune
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over/under on how many games ppl ban it vs me hehe

cold quest
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Oop

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I got perma banned but thats osas so that don't count (:

marble grove
regal dune
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really? i feel like ppl really dislike it already

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even my rune gets banned sometimes so xd

marble grove
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it seems like a wasted ban they just ban juno and put u on ur estelle which is just as good if not better

regal dune
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mhm fair

marble grove
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i could only see it on the rune map

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since juno is bis on rune map

regal dune
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how do u feel abt inkys juno

marble grove
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well i still dont have the game installed but since kick off is all that matters shes probably good

regal dune
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LOL fair

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yaeh she seemed prettys olid on that map to me

marble grove
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tho there might just be better options to win kick off

regal dune
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yeah

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thats the issue

marble grove
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estelle / aimi both have way better kick offs

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espically aimi

regal dune
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ye

marble grove
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but once u get to that nuetral state juno is very very good espically at making plays with the water blast

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plus u have the mobility to never die

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/ play over it

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if the map is really lose kick off lose game like i suspect shes probably not optimal

regal dune
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yeah exactly

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makes sense

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tyty LilyNoted

cobalt rock
cobalt rock
regal dune
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but being able to strike war ppl mid air is uhh

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really fun actually

cobalt rock
ebon scarab
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juno feels sooo much better

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just went 8-1 and had the second most damage in a 12 minute ranked game

cobalt rock
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@marble grove @regal dune Deadeye vs. Catalyst on Juno?

regal dune
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also juno stacks energy p well

cobalt rock
regal dune
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generally, how i view it is that while there are trainings that are well suited to specific characters (deadeye), often there are other trainings/combos that are just so strong on a specific character you should take them
now, if im a luna and its deadeye vs cata? i think luna takes deadeye more often than juno does, bc her value is so high, but it still depends

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tiered training guides provide a good basic level of understanding, but there's a lot of wiggle room ingame

marble grove
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High key deadeye sucks

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I don't think cata is amazing on juno but it's giga broken on like half the roster so its worth denying most the time

cobalt rock
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I've struggled on knowing when to deny Cata in general, since it's so busted, but maybe it's better to take my own BIS, not just on Juno

rustic vault
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honestly I take that shit over deadeye any day of the week

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of course there may be some situations where you want to take your bis over it but unless your bis is also their bis and they don't really want cata you can't go wrong

junior zealot
cobalt rock
marble grove
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ill make an update tier list rn

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uh actually does anyone have a link with the updated awakenings

junior zealot
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The strike and jump changes do seem to allow more aggressive play

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Sucks I'm too bad to do it

marble grove
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well its a bit bugged so its not entirely ur fault

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i like how one bug gets removed and 2 more pop up

junior zealot
marble grove
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ty my goat

cobalt rock
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Also, people have been saying there's a way to do a Triple Strike as Juno???

junior zealot
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Maybe throw-blob hit-strike?

cobalt rock
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Won't the first strike hitting the core stop your blobbo from being overriden, therefore not allowing it to reset your strike CD

cobalt rock
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Throw - Strike - Blob - Strike

junior zealot
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That's all I can think of

marble grove
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ok i made this in like 5 min im busy

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i havent even gotten timless in my 10ish games but i think it may be bis

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energy and orb awakenings obv deny them when u should but outside of denial they arent very good with the exception of cata

cobalt rock
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Is Primetime definitely over Rapid Fire?

marble grove
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maybe idk rn i perfer prime time

cobalt rock
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I feel like the 40% is kinda nuts

marble grove
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if u have something like hotshot its prime time

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imo

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@regal dune probably has formed more opnions than i have

cobalt rock
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Also Glass in BIS is same as before? Good stats if you should getting hit?

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And is 1-2 only up this high for the Oki Juno playstyle? Or is it genuinely good outside of it

marble grove
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if u get hit dont take but if u dont get hit do take tbh i forgot about its nerfs it may be just a tier

cobalt rock
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Ye that's what I feel too

marble grove
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i very much love glass cannon alot its mt favorite awakening in the game

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so im a bit biased to it

cobalt rock
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I think QS, Timeless, Cata and maybe even Twin Drive are better

marble grove
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ye probably

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i forgot i had a meeting ill probaly make one with more thought to it after

junior zealot
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Bit surprised to see 1-2 up so high tbh, but otherwise everything feels pretty accurate

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Aerials is so good

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For goalie I'd say maybe deadeye A and missile up to high C/low B since you're usually a bit further back?

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Missile really depends on how the games going tbh

graceful timber
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stupid question, why is perfect form c tier? is it just not enough cdr compared to other options?
hmmm ig also only primary/special(?) will be proccing it most of the time actually

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do blobbos even proc perfect form in general

marble grove
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YEP 1-2 WAS SO WEAK BEFORE IM HAPPY IT GOT BROUGHT BACK

junior zealot
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Oh shit I missed that buff then

marble grove
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the buff is so cringe

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ye i missed it too

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it was actually bells who told me to run it on juno💀

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1-2 hotshots is a free win almost

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tbh idk how 1-2 really works but i swear that shit just randomly procs

junior zealot
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Isn't it you hit the same target

marble grove
junior zealot
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Ah from wiki

Hit 25% harder (5% to Core) against targets you've hit within 2.5s.

marble grove
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tho i think PF works on strikes which u have a few of now so it might not be that bad

marble grove
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which if it does 1-2 is probably s tier

junior zealot
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I'd imagine it does

graceful timber
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if only we could test awakenings in training....

junior zealot
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Though 5% to core isn't that crazy

marble grove
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its 15%

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wiki is wrong

junior zealot
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Ah

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Yeah that's pretty good then

marble grove
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same as hotshot

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plus a little extra damage is nice

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only if they werent so busy making these high tea hijinx maps live and made the practice tool better

junior zealot
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I'm so torn on primetime after the nerf

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2 charges is so good but also 10% damage nerf

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I mean I'm sure it's still great but

graceful timber
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2 charges >>> 10% damage nerf on juno
i never play for tons of damage tho but im sure others agree

junior zealot
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I guess it really depends on if you use your blobs off cd or if you hang on to them

graceful timber
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if you literally always use them off cd then ig its technically worse but also probably dont do that

regal dune
scarlet shale
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Gravity JunoShy

mortal hornet
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Id NEVER guess 1 2 was good on Juno

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But I assume it's all about that core speed baybeeeeeeeeee

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The combo of hitting it initially and the tendency of opponents to smack right back into a blob at close range.........

junior zealot
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Yeah I've gotten a few kills from people walking into blobs, they hit surprisingly hard

finite fog
junior zealot
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Oh that would do it

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The fandom one shows up first

graceful timber
# marble grove 1-2 hotshots is a free win almost

ok i got a 1-2+hotshot game earlier lmao its great, bringing ot hotshot core speeds to kickoff
idk if its really S tier when compared to the other S tier trainings but its S tier in my heart, plus its always nice to deny it from brawlers

marble grove
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hotshot 1-2 is so insane

worldly compass
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best juno numbers you will ever see

cobalt rock
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There are so many things wrong with this image

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Not just the Juno numbers

dapper radish
worldly compass
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aimi estelle steamrolling enemy team while i fight luna and she's crying

dapper radish
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what da juli doin

fluid wolf
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Juno

ebon scarab
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Juno

robust loom
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Juno

wicked vale
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Juno

ebon scarab
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juno

cold quest
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Juno

rare flame
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Juno

strong pelican
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Juno

calm orbit
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Juno

ebon scarab
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Juno

snow shard
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Juno

vestal cargo
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Juno

ebon scarab
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Juno

glass flume
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Juno

ebon scarab
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Juno

vagrant stag
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juno

calm orbit
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J-uno

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Reverse

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Card

sick nymph
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does juno take siphoning wand because of the buff

worldly compass
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yes

cobalt rock
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only if ur zzZ

marble grove
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if ur not named zzz probably stick with slick kicks

rustic vault
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it is not particularly hard to learn the zzz juno strats

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because the secret is to ignore everything on your screen except the enemy you want to kill and your cooldowns

worldly compass
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wrong u also ignore ur cooldowns

worldly compass
dapper radish
fluid wolf
modern shadow
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Out of curiosity, why is Specialised training in D tier? I know the answer is probably obvious, but I wanna double check because from my experience, it can do a lot of damage when opponents run Into them to get rid of em, and actually fires the core faster, so I wonder why it’s in D tier?

marble grove
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well u only ger ur ult like evrey 30 seconds and u gotta be pretty dumb to step on the slimes that come from ult as there is an indicator that shows where its landning like 3 seconds before it lands. core speed on ult isnt super helpful as most ults willl be placed on ther goal box where core speed isnt super relevant

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its not like it does nothing because it does give the extra power and core speed its actually pretty fun

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but evrey other awakening option is better]

mortal hornet
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Grabbing specialized and happy star in a bid to find new and exciting ways to throw the game

cold quest
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Oop

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I've gotten really bad with juno lately its so pain

junior zealot
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At lower ranks people seem to step on blobs a lot more so maybe C tier then or with extra special?

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But I agree normally the special usually doesn't need damage

glossy coral
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Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion or not but I find that I really don't like taking things that increase projectile range

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I feel like it makes it so much harder to internalize the exact distance you're gonna shoot the blob which makes setups where you want to be very particular about spacing harder

junior zealot
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That's a big part of why missile prop is D tier

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Aerials is a small enough range buff to be manageable, and the extra jump range is incredible

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On goalie missile could be as good as high C low B imo, depending on how your team plays

rich fog
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yeah i think disliking projectile range as a forward is a fairly common opinion, because your blobs are not going to be very useful if they're at the edge of the map

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aerials is good enough that it'd be worth trying to become comfortable with that range, so you'd only need to be prepared with setups with no projectile range and with aerials, which isn't that bad

dapper radish
# glossy coral Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion or not but I find that I really don't like...

If you play Juno Goalie and get the feeling that your Forwards can't push the core all the way to the end, you can go missile.
For me, Aerials on forward is very nice combined with the longer jump which enables you so much more options and space, but gotta practice with it a bit to get comfortable with the 35% extra range.
Can also use the range to stuff out goalie as they try to hit the core but are stunned the moment they get hit by the blob

modern shadow
cold quest
marble grove
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It should but only mods have the ability to pin

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So I can't do anything about it

rustic vault
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could always ping me chief

marble grove
dense slate
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So true frfr

rustic vault
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sure thing AtlasThumbsUp

fluid wolf
#

Juno

dense slate
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Juno

fluid wolf
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friend fling buff

cold quest
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JUNO BUFF

marble grove
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yo someone tell me im reading the patch notes wrong rn

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this seems fucking terrible

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the slimes hold it longer now?????

cold quest
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Uh no

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Strike lasts longer on juno blobs for like manual strikea

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I think I'm reading right

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Makes the manual redirect timing easier to hit

marble grove
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oh ok thats pretty chill then

cold quest
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Which is kinda nice cause on high ping I whiff those a lot

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And central servers suck so I'm always on high ping

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The amount of negative comments bout juno buffs I've seen is insane

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Character still kinda weak rn without bis

marble grove
cold quest
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She feels really hard to play the higher elo im in

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She's very counterable

marble grove
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this change makes her feel alot more right tho which is nice my redirects are actually redirecting

cold quest
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Low elo just needa get good

marble grove
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yeah juno sucks in high elo

cold quest
cold quest
marble grove
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also the jump strike bug got fixed

cold quest
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They won't ever buff her enough to be good

cold quest
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HUGE

marble grove
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yeah massive idk why that wasnt listed in her changes

cold quest
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Yeah

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Thats so needed thank God I can actually take jump boosts without whiffing a ton

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Does monu hotshot hit core for red with power buff on primary?

graceful timber
marble grove
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seems like it was fixed

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maybe im just bad but i failed to replicate it

cold quest
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I'll test when I'm home see what I find

stuck basin
mortal hornet
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I didn't seem to have any problems with it in training

graceful timber
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played one normal game the bug is still there

marble grove
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Yep it's still there I'm dum dum

dense slate
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me when juno buff

cold quest
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Yeah I still missed a couple goals due to it

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Kinda sucks

mortal hornet
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Is the Juno damage buff noticable enough to warrant Ju-brawling?

marble grove
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idk zzz is always Ju-brawling

dense slate
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I've killed so many people with that new primary buff

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Plus if they're staggered and they touch your slimes, you can force them by going somewhere by clicking before they touch it

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Shits funny when that actually happens

mortal hornet
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WAIT REALLY

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that's huge actually

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i never knew you could control a stagger'd player's knockback with slimes

dense slate
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It's so fucking busted

urban herald
#

whaaaaaa huge tech

glossy coral
dense slate
glossy coral
dense slate
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So like if you're lucky it can technically kill someone with that

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Idk how slime ai works on staggered enemies but I'm pretty sure it's similar to how they handle cores

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You can just test stuff out in practice mode

worldly compass
marble grove
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Can confirm redirecting people with the slime is incredibly based

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It seems like a funny tech but honestly very useful almost every time I get kills I use it

dense slate
junior zealot
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Does redirecting a person reset strike like redirecting the core?

dense slate
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I mean you have to M1/left click to redirect something so eh

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Pretty sure it acts the same as normal strikes idk

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Haven't payed attention to that when that happens since a lot of stuff is happening

marble grove
junior zealot
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Not surprised, but it would be nice

fluid wolf
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what we saying about these juno changes

mortal hornet
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Eating good in the neighborhood

ebon scarab
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is it just me or is juno slowly getting powercrept

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i think once she gets more solid awakenings for her shes going to be strong

regal dune
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ive been spamming a lot of juno lately for fun

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character feels quite good in solo queue and can basically go any of the current strong training combos (but hot shot def incredible on her always)

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good time to be juno player

calm orbit
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So true

fluid wolf
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bootleg Juno

calm orbit
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Who is bootleg juno

fluid wolf
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nao

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im reaching tho ngl

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I just saw one of her abilities which was that arrow shit

glad peak
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No this is real all characters are just worse Juno

cold quest
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I can confirm this is true every new character I play i just think what I would do as juno and do it

cursive snow
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I think juno is very cute like if you agree

calm orbit
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So true Juno is really cute and we must protect her from all the Juno haters

cursive snow
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so true bestie

cold quest
#

Real

fluid wolf
#

Juno

red ocean
#

@marble grove what are you thinking about the new awakenings?

marble grove
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I think they are all very good

red ocean
marble grove
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i dont know the exact answer but if you are in the zone i belive it should give the blobs the buffed based on how some of her other interactions work

red ocean
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That's my thought as well. The only thing I wasn't sure on is if they're determined on spawn/cast or if it's constantly updating

marble grove
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i think its constantly updating i remember seeing something in a testing channel about it a while back only if it didnt take a phd to understand how creation interactions work

red ocean
regal dune
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funfact: juno blobbos stop moving when she's in air for her secondary

red ocean
#

Yeah, it's funny watching them freeze in Practice mode

fluid wolf
#

blobbos

robust loom
#

Ngl, I love scaling with power awakenings in forward Juno just to make the core do funi red speed

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Hotshot and one two punch specifically kekw

marble grove
glossy coral
#

How do we feel about Pummelers? I take Wand 100% of the time currently but sometimes Pum feels like it could be a better choice

robust loom
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If I get Bulk Up start then yes otherwise no

cobalt rock
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If you're playing Juno for damage (monkaHmm), then yeah it's fine

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But otherwise, Slick Kicks should just be BIS

glossy coral
#

Juno is always for damage JunoPOP

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Juno will kill everyone JunoPOP

marble grove
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if u are playing for damage its for sure wand

worldly compass
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i took pummelers back in the day idk how it plays now but its nice to confirm kills

glossy coral
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I just feel like I'm so often in the position where I'll hit someone and they'll just barely not go over the edge

robust loom
#

I just feel like Juno should be a brawler, 5 second CD on her primary with her damage doubled InaHumu

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And her dash blobbo hits the person in the direction you jump so you can dash confirm kills SoniiPepega

fluid wolf
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I will cook Juno

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Need one more Juno buff before the end of the year 🙏

marble grove
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if the new game is set in the omega strikers universe ill no longer be the best juno player 😦 gonna have to change the thread name

marble grove
#

i actually wanted to delete this thread but it seems i dont have the ability to do that. i probably wont respond anymore since game down + i dont play just let it be known most information i have said is pretty outdated and wont be fixed so use the information at your own risk. Happy to see yall appreciate the thread i spent alot of time trying to answer questions and keep it updated(even if i slacked a bit) glad it was useful. its been super fun JulietteHeart

tender star
#

🥱

marble grove
#

i dont think playing 2 inhouses a week qualifies me 💀

brisk shell
#

shoutout to gravity even if he doesn’t play the game for 5 years he will still come back and gap all the juno players

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best juno worldwide not even close 🥱

true tundra
#

Juno

cursive snow
#

I agree

fluid wolf
#

Juno?

cursive snow
#

yea

robust loom
#

Juno…

cursive snow
#

yeah

fluid wolf
#

She Juno till I blobbo

cursive snow
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although it wouldn't explain why everything else looks normal

cursive snow
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the time is nigh

wicked vale
fluid wolf
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Juno death