#Rank 1 Juno's Awakening guide
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catalyst which lowkey might be pretty good but i never take it
and egoist which is solid if u have some other energy regen to pair with it and as long as the other team doesnt have alot of must dodge abilities like luna ult
oh and stacks on stacks is really good if u arent dying
its wild somehow before evrey major tourney i play in juno is in piss tier
if teams where actually smart they would leave it up vs me because of how bad it is
ofc they wont teams cant understand that concept
but dam
and she will probably still get nerfed next patch anyway
🧢
I will continue to be a juno believer
please don't nerf anymore though. and maybe revert the bugfix please
Nah wand is like useless now
for refrence i only take wand on demon dias
and only into heavy damage
but evreyone plays heavy damage on demon so its a must pick
the champ sucks on demon unless u ask the people in my group today who would tell u its the best thing since sliced bread
i'm only silver so likely doesn't mater that much but me and a teammate started with fire up and I got catalyst my energy got full 3 to 4 times a set which for me is a lot because I'm dogshit so it felt like it did real good i almost got egoist to but the other team blocked me
nah ur right. i should be more specfic the energy awakenings have very good senergy together
catalyst + one other energy awakgening claps
real
they seem fun together but if you don't get lucky oof and I'm almost always last in the draft
I like catalyst a lot on its own but the other two without any other energy training kinda don't feel great
so I'll take catalyst with about the same priority as glass cannon, then I'll take egoist if I already have catalyst as an option
catalyst by itself is pretty good into heavy damage for the extra dodges u can get
i should take it more but its often taken early in the drafts
on the lowest of keys is might not be throwing
but id only take it on demon
u probably dont need teh hp on other maps
i thought about it i might try it out soon
I die frequently
why is demon so bad for juno i haven't noticed any thing that makes it harder than other maps. unlike ai.mi's app where the kills are free beause every one in silver forgets i can punch them in to the well
demon dais ends up being kill heavy for a small assortment of reasons and juno doesn't play well into it
personally I also find core control and securing barrier hits on the map to be exceptionally strange. the approach is very different from just about anything else
I'm not convinced it's bad but I just haven't been able to figure it out
gravity
gravity
The main issue she has is the extreme inability to take barriers on demon
With surge start its actually not unplayable
skill issue
Gravity 
Gravity
I have gotten to play it now it goes dummy on demon
After playing in the tourney today my eyes have truly been opened this champ still sucks
juno is so broken she is so oooo broken
Hey can someone give me the link to the tierlist? I'm on mobile web and don't wanna scroll all the way up
just made it real quick since i had some things i wanted to adjust for the old list
energy awakenings arent on there but
catalyst is like high b tier low a tier
fire up is only take if infinite and ur teams taking it even then its pretty meh
and egoist is low b tier
but after making this i realized how situational her drafts are so its important to learn the sernergys between her awakenings and when u can take stuff for example dont take stacks if ur dying alot
if anyone ever has a question about what they shuold have took in an awakening draft send me the screenshot and ill let you know
To much range for 1 man to handle
Where is reverberation
hmmmge
extra special??
Missile prop would probably be good if they let us short throw blobs :(
Decent on goal though if you want to support midfield a bit more at least?
missile prop is wis on juno bcz of the ultimate bug
shrimple as
the blobs take like 10 years to fall from the sky
For goal, not WIS, but not BIS either
Even if it fucks her ults
It does massively power up her primaries
As goalie at least
Since you don't usually do vertical setup plays
Strike shot aerials missile prop so your slimes cross the entire map
i think the goalie players are trolling out of there minds by taking missle
but i also dont play goalie
Strike shot Juno goes hard
In my experience missile goes from WIS to fairy average, but it really depends on how defensive your blobs need to be(read: is your mid player competant)
The downside is still absolutely there, but the ability to send a blob past midfield can be pretty good if you can get away with it
J7ang has it somewhere around mid B Tier I think
With the tiers being BIS -> A -> B -> C -> WIS
That sounds about right to me
just remove the second part
juno goalie players are trolling out of their minds
real
Accurate

True
juno players are trolling out of their minds
no I mean like, this placement is deranged
there's no way it's that high
Pretty much it's only good on demon
But it's very good on demon
Some value on night market too
It's also most champs absolute bis so u gotta take it alot anyway
actually I can see that
Happy star is so broken juno ult just sucks
glad i asked because the tier list decimated that nuance and this looks just not remotely right in general
Twin realistically should be higher buts value only shines when u have one of the jump range increase awakenings outside of that I rally only need the 1 jump
beyond that I guess the main point of disagreement is that I am a believer in size juno
High key I think size is not good at all juno has so many ways to checkmate win strike wars that extra size isn't necessary tho I'm pretty much the only player who utilizes it so size might work well for others
do those ways to checkmate win strike wars involve cds
if so size has a place imo
even in that playstyle
it's also, like happy star, sometimes a very good deny
Denying size happens alot since brawlers exist but for yourself simply learn to strike war better
I made my own a while back and ordering things by category instead of traditional tiers results in some weird ordering but the broad strokes feel right for me
Juno can take like 80% of strike wars at an advantage already depending on map
Also can't confirm but juno slime hit box starts from behind her so ppl can stand on u easier
In tourney smart players will actively sit on me if I'm in a threatening spot to invalidate my whole kit already
Twins good into those players
I'm genuinely not sure there is such a thing as winning strike wars reliably through a size diff against good players
it materially affects the fundamental nature of those interactions, it's not a crutch to bridge a skill gap
Nah no cap size is a crutch all size is doing in a strike war is giving u more time to react in a strike war which btw can be a good amount of time at lower core speeds especially
Ofc the champs that size change matters most on is ofc the bigger hit box champs it'd why BD x is so cancer to beat in a strike war
Best way to increase ur odds of winning a strike war is always move speed
i thought the best way to increase ur odds of winning strike wars was lowering your ping
classic gravity only i can play juno
if i had a nickle every time gravity said only he could play juno correctly
I'm extremely cautious of people saying "it's bad because it's a crutch" after watching the entire playerbase sleep on quick respawn for 70% of splatoon 1's lifespan
Until someone does decent in tourneys with her this statement will rein true
Ultimately it's preference but I think it's better for a few reasons 1 u can dribble better 2 it gives more speed for longer. 3 I can proc it anywhere which helps alot defensively and offensively. 4 after winning a strike war if ur opponent does not have slicks I can postion in front of them making it so they have 0 chance to win a follow up strike war
good to know
Is deadeye really that good for Juno? I figured her abilities weren’t within the range requirement, any anyone explain the value they bring?
Hits core at higher speed
her abilities do go far enough to meet range req and the way the distance calculation works means it's actually quite lenient
Lowkey I think I have it over valued still good none the less juno slime is 700 range so it can be tricky to hit the projectile but with how creations work with deadeye its very easy to proc
With siphoning nerfs it's more rare to play for damage now
But playing for damage is viable. in NASL today I played full damage juno game 2
It requires alot of awakenings tho and is mostly better on smaller maps aka not a them or oni
Core speed is good on juno as well which desdeye provides
Tbh deadeye is probably an a tier awakening
I've been playing alot alot less recently so I'm not really 100% sure on awakenings rn
I pretty much only play to warmup for tourneys
Oh also deadeyes best feature is if u hit someone who is close to core with projectile and immediately stroke with blob its a free strike war win without deadeys its either A not possible or B has a really tight timing
Does it not work with hot shot
If ur referring to the core speed yes it does
Thanks for the insight Gravity I’ll have to try it out sometime
ok so question because I haven't seen it recently, what's the veredict about the energy talents on Juno?
also I imagine the "stagger buff" awakenings are not that good on her correct?
there solid juno isnt immune to taking damage and the stats they give or nice bulk and peak are def good on her
catalyst is pretty good the otheres are not
are you including reverberation too? cause I imagine the CDR is nice
nah the actual cdr for reverb isnt neraly as good
even tho cdr is one of junos best stats
its like 10% cdr
its not terrible
but imo its the worst of the 3
hmm I see, guess it's still worth it for the power up to both others, but good to know
one change I would maybe like to see what an awakening that added "creation speed" as a stat so Juno's blobbos, Era's tornado and Asher's shield could move faster too
catalyst dose make the other energy ones better so if you have it and there is nothing else that you want in the draft you will likeling at least enjoy the results
any1 got the updated tier list
#1101098170919956480 message its this
none of the new abilites on it😔
leaked dms??????? 
definitely not just something I posted in the juno main discord when people were asking if reverberation was any good
It's chill they all aren't good except catalyst which is mid
There is a separate discord for that? I thought it was enough with the #1025532553026879569
almost every character has their own discord. unofficial though, ran by community members mostly
yo where?
juno’s blobbos get faster the faster juno is i believe
They also chase the core from a longer range I think
I miss adren rush Juno slimes chasing the core across map
Nah this isn't true but do to them being faster they are able to stay in there detection range longer if that makes sense

im really noticing how weak juno is now after the update 
i get bullied by an X or Juliette, or just any brawlers really, and i get stomped on and i just cant help my goalie much either

Well don't worry she will be even weaker next patch
Tho juno actually has really good tools to counter x
are perfect form and one two punch any good on juno?
1-2 if you're running a funny Pummelers build
PF I think is mid, but Hot Shot is just better
Me when they rotate in three bad awakenings for Juno
Guess it's time to full time aimi
no onetwo punch is new juno meta u don't get it
So true
Nope
Pf is borderline do not pick tier
And one two is really hard to proc
unironically sparks would have been better choices
Okay but gravity hasn't seen the prize fighter juno
juno is easily the worse champ u can play on the patch and its not close
What about octavia
For what reasons? I find myself in a good spot with her most of the games
It's mostly because the past like
Seven patches or so
Haven't been super good for juno
And the newest awakening rotation is 3 bad awakenings and one okay awakening for juno
Ye pretty much what game said her awakening selection is now pretty limited on top of her doing lower damage compared to the other midfield options
She's just worse than evrey other midfield the one advantage that she offered core control isn't really that strong rn imo
It's not like she's unplayable u won't lose the game for picking her
besides finii she is the only midfielder that doesn't have a piercing/impact primary
I feel I have the most controls over cross shootings with her and the needed X factor to do surprise goals
Ye but as u get to higher levels of play the surprise factor loses its surprise aspect
At least in Gold where I'm at rn
juno in low elo is vastly stronger than juno in high elo purely from the fact that she gets goals by making enemies more likely to misplay
that does not happen at high elo
Ye
Gotta practice the Estelle and Vyce more then ig
Junos dominance in lower elo is pretty much the reason she will be weak in high elo
I mean there's no harm in playing juno high elo if you want
she's definitely not the strongest atm though
Just play who u wanna play tho I hit top 10 when Juno was considered the weakest champ in the game
I will still play her but to build up alternatives
Ye it's nice to have alts my alts also are estelle and vyce
I've been playing aimi more lately because I get a bis awakening on start more often
Also ggs yesterday gravity
Can I see my stats anywhere? Would like to see my Juno WR
Only the ogs remember corestrike
61,3
it's ok ig
"Due to how data is provided we are limited to showing ranked stats only for the top 10k players of each region."
Oof
Well I'm only mid gold yet
I have 0 clue how high that is
Or where the median of players is
Winrate also barely matters
If I made a new account id get like 95% winrate
I think most players are plat / diamond
How does that work
Because you get more elo than you lose in lower ranks
It tells me im top 7% with mid gold
I think rookie gains like 40 LP for a win and loses 2 for a loss
Most active players I mean
Well ok I started a week ago why do I complain LOL
If u started only a week ago you'll hit plat or diamond eventually
Even challenger
I've seen some absolute garbage players in challenger like me
#1 Juno Player Kappa
Yea
won a whole tourney without playing juno
this champ is so bad
please buff
but they wont
cause of low elo
i cry
what were your alts?
They play Vyce, Estelle, Era as well
The chars I just started playing lmao
I actually dropped Era for drek
The current meta is throw all ur hitboxes out and 1 shot the enemy team
Era doesnt work for that
I only play drek on demon dias tho
I hear that Juno character is pretty broken
So much so that she needed some nerfs to be toned down
Thoughts on picking her up?
The rumors must be true since she gets nerfed evrey patch
So gonna play Juli then
You're chill with Juno if you want to play her
I dont get juno nerfs rn
its really hard to get success with her
except low elo ig?
I struggling to find wins and make a bigger impact
but am just a solo que as of rn
She's lowkey honestly just fine till Chall
and then past that, you have to put in infinitely more effort
to get the same value of like a Rasmus, Drek'ar or Era
ye juno just is not in a good spot rn her scoring pressure is weak and she has to chose between damage and core control where other mids can do both
also having no peirce in her kit is a terrible hinderince
This is mainly due to the fact that pretty much every other mid has a piercing primary
I suggested this a long time ago, but I would've liked to see Juno's primary pierce, and the slime end up where it would have if the primary pierces
would be nice
the change that needs to happen is A revert to old juno ult where its just a rune pillar or b remove the slime from her secondary and make it so when she lands it does an aoe impact
idc which change they do but one of them needs to happen or she will be piss tier forever
yeah ive gotten to the point where maybeeee I should learn someone new
Ye something like that
@cobalt rock knows
I actually don't know it
Any footage?
None that I can share without Ody having my head
Think of it like a single placeable slime
longer range than rune
But yeah, old Juno ult was like a single slime you could place. It's basically the size of a Rune pillar (relative to the map, her slimes used to be bigger in alpha). Its cast range was longer than Rune pillar. You could cover about 1/3 of the pitch horizontally with it, if I recall correctly.
Can someone tells me what influences the amount of ult blobs?
I have had times where it spawned 1
you get one additional blob for each enemy and the core in it, so up to 5
i think it took me like 100 games in too before i read the description
i think allies too no?
It used to be like this in prod tests
But they said it was a bug
xdd
So now that nasl is finished I probably won't be playing the game anymore or the very least at a high level so I won't be making anymore tier list
I heard puffyFPS may be on the juno grind

I'll remember you if I play this game more than 6 weeks I'll probably stick with it
I miss gravity already

bye gravity...
its joever
Where be the Juno buffs
Only in my dreams 😦
No Juno buffs because of blobbos
I love this pic
Nerf blobs but buff tf out of Juno
The compromise surely works
Gravity teach me the ways of the low tier so I don't stop dragging down my team

make juno faster when she walks over her blobbos
or a speed boost after using her secondary
wait having both a dash and haste would probably make juno too good
real
What Juno actually needs is an awakening rotation
So many awakenings are mid, meanwhile zentaro is getting 6 bis per draft

yeah thats real she has not been blessed with goated awakenings
Oooh, I got an idea of what awakening to take. Have been just taking creation all the way but after some time playing her, realized her primary has more uses than just summoning
Rapid Fire, Hotshot, Timeless Creator/Monumentalist, and something like reverberation or extended jump range are my fav combo
Ahhh, the extended jump range is just chef's kiss
IFFFFFF
Your forward and goalie now how to bloody pass
But when they do pass to you
It's just
Ahh
The goals
the guard breaks
Lots of clips flow in

I am officially an aerials believer now
Aerials op
tempo swing, monu, rapid fire, one two punch, deadeye trust

uhhhh

NO WAY NOT A WHOLE 50
guess that's not great?
It's not like it's bad it just doesn't really make her better in any meaningful way
I'll take what I can get 
Fr
Wow this probably makes juno not get staggered by one whole combo
Juno can finally survive being breathed on 
Surely next patch they prolly take away more stagger than they gave
idk game 1v9s every game i’ve seen
game just skill gaps
real
ye its pretty chill
that makes me real happy
But is it so chill?
Ye probably
Only super chill if space princess juno comes out for s2
Can't belive i retired before a skin that was teased back in early testing came out

yep they are literally evrey proposed change i had for the champ
honstley shocked they where all aproved
got to test it a while back its not turbo OP but it drastaicly changes how u should play the champ
i might make a mini guide on the new way to play her
but thats alot of work for a game i dont have installed
NOWNDOWNAODBNAWONNOOOOOOOOOO
NO FUCKING WAY
NO
GAMES EDAED
FUCK
WHO APPROOVED THE RUNE MAP
WHO WOULD DO SUCH A STUP8ID THING
HOW IS THAT LIVE
i was gonna reinstall
but no
not anymroe
It can't be that bad
NAH BUT IT IS
it has to have been reworked
theres not way it hasnt been
no gameplay mechanice on a map has ever been so little fun
if its been reworked
maybe its chill

esstially there is portals on teh map that players and the core/players can walk thougth
these portals can spawn in the goal box
which even in concept u can probably understand how this may be a problem
from what it looks like, it seems limited to a handful of spots now
the corners/3 wall spots
yep games over
is there a cd on them now
please
tell me there is
i very very strongly dislike this map THO thbat being said juno is super good on it
do u think juno is premium core stuffer now with the way cd gets refunded when you strike with a blobbo

no because the combo is actually pretty hard to pull off
tho if u can pull it off its very hard to stop
giga pro tip for winning evrey game on rune map on juno if portal spawns in goalie box just sit there
an win
u throw blobbos from a far to win mid control
if goalie trys to clear through portal u come thorugh
if in comms with teammate ur teammate can cross it to u and then u come out of portal
its so stupid
there is not less exciting gameplay
u jsut play 2nd goalie but its ok cause at any point of time u can teleport into there net
also inkys map winning kick off is evreything
so go really hard on winning kick off
if u take the first barrier and u lose u suck
use the giant beam to destroy evreyones will to live
and set up ur brawler with a dimer at light sppeeds
@marble grove also, juno's slimes feel like they hold on forever now
they changed it from 0.25 to 0.75 now
they do do that
ye its just a bit
it feels a lot longer
it adds up on shit like ult
just manually redirect evreything
thers no reason not too
unless u wanna mix up the goalie
hmm maybe i come back to this game
projectiles do not
only players and core
i dont think blobbos go thorugh
if they could that would be so turbo brokwn
but u can just walk thourhg throw one and then walk back
that's like alcohol free beer
holy shit how real is that
hm?
alcohol free beer is in fact real
Ah I wasn't sure if you just saw something new about rune map lol
lol
LMAO
Juno buff go so hard goddam
manually redirecting everything now just means there's no hold time right
Yeah
And now you can spam do it cause u get cd back
No punishment for doing it
It fixed my biggest issue with manual redirecting
still have to have your strike up for the first slime but after that yeah looks like it
cant wait for 500 apm gameplay manually redirecting every slime in a 5-slime ult
It can't believe we've gotten 3 Buffs in a row. And they removed demon days.
in my experince just mashing strike results in the best outcome
Now I'm def getting perma banned tn
juno finally S tier
well this fucking sucks
lillybun found this
aka THE LITEARL MOST IMPORTANT PART OF JUMP STRIKE DOES NOT FUCKING WORK
HELLO

OH THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T WORKING FOR ME

BRO I WAS TRYING TO DO THIS SHIT FOR A WHOLE HOUR
i thought my time was up
so it looks like
it works really well if you're midair
but is terrible if you're landing
JUNO BUFFS 
JUNO BUGS 
Why does juno still not workkk
but it's been found so it will likely be fixed soon
Need fixed tn pls ody lmao
probably wont be fixed for 2 weeks
Rip my osas run
i hope they fix it soon my main straitagy lately has been grabing as many of the dash boosters that i am abale as being able to get to the to the other goal from any where on the map seems real good
@marble grove do you think juno is good rn?
yes
look at this game from zzz
despite what that game might have u belive shes not op
shes just a solid pick
shes much harder than she used to be
well her skill celing is way higher anyway
i think when players start getting closer to her skill celing she may be to strong
thank you for your input, ill start playing her more now
65k damage and 75 redirects
My heart bleeds
the dmg is insane 
yeah juno feels good
once landing jump bug is fixed at the very least she seems v strong in solo queue
(n she prolly already is)
unsure abt high lvl comp play
very high chance juno is seen in bff or nasl today/tmrw imo
over/under on how many games ppl ban it vs me 
tbh i dont think it will be banned
really? i feel like ppl really dislike it already
even my rune gets banned sometimes so xd
it seems like a wasted ban they just ban juno and put u on ur estelle which is just as good if not better
mhm fair
how do u feel abt inkys juno
well i still dont have the game installed but since kick off is all that matters shes probably good
tho there might just be better options to win kick off
ye
but once u get to that nuetral state juno is very very good espically at making plays with the water blast
plus u have the mobility to never die
/ play over it
if the map is really lose kick off lose game like i suspect shes probably not optimal
not just me then, I felt this too, she felt like the only midfielder I could play there cuz I think Ai.Mi is better but I can't play her 
This bug HURT me in scrims today. I was consistently losing shots I shoulda gotten cuz of jump strike bug
yes, it can be really annoying to play around -- annoyed i will have to chnage my muscle memory again when it gets fixed
but being able to strike war ppl mid air is uhh
really fun actually
I love being able to reliably intercept passes and after baiting them out by not covering the angle 
juno feels sooo much better
just went 8-1 and had the second most damage in a 12 minute ranked game
@marble grove @regal dune Deadeye vs. Catalyst on Juno?
cata is op rn
deadeye is helpful w/ core speed and dmg, but cata esp w/ other energy trainings is like dumb strong and really useful to, like, keep away from other ppl sooo id probably end up taking cata in more drafts
also juno stacks energy p well
Yeah, I know Cata is OP, but I wasn't sure if it was worth giving up Deadeye for. Good to know I've been punting my drafts

generally, how i view it is that while there are trainings that are well suited to specific characters (deadeye), often there are other trainings/combos that are just so strong on a specific character you should take them
now, if im a luna and its deadeye vs cata? i think luna takes deadeye more often than juno does, bc her value is so high, but it still depends
tiered training guides provide a good basic level of understanding, but there's a lot of wiggle room ingame
High key deadeye sucks
I don't think cata is amazing on juno but it's giga broken on like half the roster so its worth denying most the time
I've struggled on knowing when to deny Cata in general, since it's so busted, but maybe it's better to take my own BIS, not just on Juno

cata is just gigabroken I've never once had a game as juno where I regret taking it
honestly I take that shit over deadeye any day of the week
of course there may be some situations where you want to take your bis over it but unless your bis is also their bis and they don't really want cata you can't go wrong
What made it go from BIS(last pinned list) to this?
And realistically, Cata isn't great to give over as Juno, because you deal a lot of damage procs, which means enemies get a lot of value out of Cata against you
tbh i probably cant pinpoint the reason but in my experince im playing way closer range than i was previously leading me to rarely grab its value
ill make an update tier list rn
uh actually does anyone have a link with the updated awakenings
The strike and jump changes do seem to allow more aggressive play
Sucks I'm too bad to do it
well its a bit bugged so its not entirely ur fault
i like how one bug gets removed and 2 more pop up
https://tiermaker.com/create/all-in-one-omega-strikers-tier-list-v226--1645242
I think this has all of them?
ty my goat
This makes sense cuz you're playing to do the strike override into strike combo, right?
Also, people have been saying there's a way to do a Triple Strike as Juno???
Maybe throw-blob hit-strike?
Won't the first strike hitting the core stop your blobbo from being overriden, therefore not allowing it to reset your strike CD
Could be it tbh
Throw - Strike - Blob - Strike
That's all I can think of
ok i made this in like 5 min im busy
i havent even gotten timless in my 10ish games but i think it may be bis
energy and orb awakenings obv deny them when u should but outside of denial they arent very good with the exception of cata
Is Primetime definitely over Rapid Fire?
maybe idk rn i perfer prime time
I feel like the 40% is kinda nuts
if u have something like hotshot its prime time
imo
@regal dune probably has formed more opnions than i have
Also Glass in BIS is same as before? Good stats if you should getting hit?
And is 1-2 only up this high for the Oki Juno playstyle? Or is it genuinely good outside of it
if u get hit dont take but if u dont get hit do take tbh i forgot about its nerfs it may be just a tier
Ye that's what I feel too
i very much love glass cannon alot its mt favorite awakening in the game
so im a bit biased to it
I think QS, Timeless, Cata and maybe even Twin Drive are better
ye probably
i forgot i had a meeting ill probaly make one with more thought to it after
Bit surprised to see 1-2 up so high tbh, but otherwise everything feels pretty accurate
Aerials is so good
For goalie I'd say maybe deadeye A and missile up to high C/low B since you're usually a bit further back?
Missile really depends on how the games going tbh
stupid question, why is perfect form c tier? is it just not enough cdr compared to other options?
hmmm ig also only primary/special(?) will be proccing it most of the time actually
do blobbos even proc perfect form in general
1-2 is so stupid it gives u 15% core speed and 25% damage it makes the core go so fucking fast for no reason
YEP 1-2 WAS SO WEAK BEFORE IM HAPPY IT GOT BROUGHT BACK
Oh shit I missed that buff then
the buff is so cringe
ye i missed it too
it was actually bells who told me to run it on juno💀
1-2 hotshots is a free win almost
tbh idk how 1-2 really works but i swear that shit just randomly procs
Isn't it you hit the same target
mainly because PF does not give cd back on the ability that procd it
Ah from wiki
Hit 25% harder (5% to Core) against targets you've hit within 2.5s.
tho i think PF works on strikes which u have a few of now so it might not be that bad
i may be crazy but im pretty sure striking counts
which if it does 1-2 is probably s tier
I'd imagine it does
if only we could test awakenings in training....
Though 5% to core isn't that crazy
same as hotshot
plus a little extra damage is nice
only if they werent so busy making these high tea hijinx maps live and made the practice tool better
I'm so torn on primetime after the nerf
2 charges is so good but also 10% damage nerf
I mean I'm sure it's still great but
2 charges >>> 10% damage nerf on juno
i never play for tons of damage tho but im sure others agree
I guess it really depends on if you use your blobs off cd or if you hang on to them
if you literally always use them off cd then ig its technically worse but also probably dont do that
prime time if can get other cdr training, rapid if its all u have is probably generally correct
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Id NEVER guess 1 2 was good on Juno
But I assume it's all about that core speed baybeeeeeeeeee
The combo of hitting it initially and the tendency of opponents to smack right back into a blob at close range.........
Yeah I've gotten a few kills from people walking into blobs, they hit surprisingly hard
Are you looking at the fandom wiki or the wiki.gg wiki? The fandom one is outdated
ok i got a 1-2+hotshot game earlier lmao its great, bringing ot hotshot core speeds to kickoff
idk if its really S tier when compared to the other S tier trainings but its S tier in my heart, plus its always nice to deny it from brawlers
hotshot 1-2 is so insane
best juno numbers you will ever see
aimi estelle steamrolling enemy team while you fight juli and she's crying?
aimi estelle steamrolling enemy team while i fight luna and she's crying
what da juli doin
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does juno take siphoning wand because of the buff
only if ur zzZ
if ur not named zzz probably stick with slick kicks
it is not particularly hard to learn the zzz juno strats
because the secret is to ignore everything on your screen except the enemy you want to kill and your cooldowns
wrong u also ignore ur cooldowns
Slick Kicks only 
poor guy astral projection couldnt save him
Out of curiosity, why is Specialised training in D tier? I know the answer is probably obvious, but I wanna double check because from my experience, it can do a lot of damage when opponents run Into them to get rid of em, and actually fires the core faster, so I wonder why it’s in D tier?
well u only ger ur ult like evrey 30 seconds and u gotta be pretty dumb to step on the slimes that come from ult as there is an indicator that shows where its landning like 3 seconds before it lands. core speed on ult isnt super helpful as most ults willl be placed on ther goal box where core speed isnt super relevant
its not like it does nothing because it does give the extra power and core speed its actually pretty fun
but evrey other awakening option is better]
Grabbing specialized and happy star in a bid to find new and exciting ways to throw the game
At lower ranks people seem to step on blobs a lot more so maybe C tier then or with extra special?
But I agree normally the special usually doesn't need damage
Dunno if this is an unpopular opinion or not but I find that I really don't like taking things that increase projectile range
I feel like it makes it so much harder to internalize the exact distance you're gonna shoot the blob which makes setups where you want to be very particular about spacing harder
That's a big part of why missile prop is D tier
Aerials is a small enough range buff to be manageable, and the extra jump range is incredible
On goalie missile could be as good as high C low B imo, depending on how your team plays
yeah i think disliking projectile range as a forward is a fairly common opinion, because your blobs are not going to be very useful if they're at the edge of the map
aerials is good enough that it'd be worth trying to become comfortable with that range, so you'd only need to be prepared with setups with no projectile range and with aerials, which isn't that bad
If you play Juno Goalie and get the feeling that your Forwards can't push the core all the way to the end, you can go missile.
For me, Aerials on forward is very nice combined with the longer jump which enables you so much more options and space, but gotta practice with it a bit to get comfortable with the 35% extra range.
Can also use the range to stuff out goalie as they try to hit the core but are stunned the moment they get hit by the blob
Ye I'd put it at C tier at the very least, but bottom C tier
it has some usefullness, but not too useful
Can this be pinned instead of old tl?
Just make me mod instead
So true frfr
sure thing 
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JUNO BUFF
yo someone tell me im reading the patch notes wrong rn
this seems fucking terrible
the slimes hold it longer now?????
Uh no
Strike lasts longer on juno blobs for like manual strikea
I think I'm reading right
Makes the manual redirect timing easier to hit
oh ok thats pretty chill then
Which is kinda nice cause on high ping I whiff those a lot
And central servers suck so I'm always on high ping
The amount of negative comments bout juno buffs I've seen is insane
Character still kinda weak rn without bis
ik the champ sucks but because this random noobs ins silver are losing to her they demand nerfs
this change makes her feel alot more right tho which is nice my redirects are actually redirecting
Low elo just needa get good
yeah juno sucks in high elo
I won't get to play her till osas so I'm glad to hear buff is nice
Its why I'm learning other characters sadly
also the jump strike bug got fixed
They won't ever buff her enough to be good
yeah massive idk why that wasnt listed in her changes
Yeah
Thats so needed thank God I can actually take jump boosts without whiffing a ton
Does monu hotshot hit core for red with power buff on primary?
wait was it? i thought they said they werent able to fix it till the next big patch
I'll test when I'm home see what I find
I heard sphinx say it wasn’t
I didn't seem to have any problems with it in training
played one normal game the bug is still there
Yep it's still there I'm dum dum
me when juno buff
U lied to me ):
Yeah I still missed a couple goals due to it
Kinda sucks
idk zzz is always Ju-brawling
I've killed so many people with that new primary buff
Plus if they're staggered and they touch your slimes, you can force them by going somewhere by clicking before they touch it
Shits funny when that actually happens
WAIT REALLY
that's huge actually
i never knew you could control a stagger'd player's knockback with slimes
Yeah you can do that
It's so fucking busted
whaaaaaa huge tech
Is there some trick to actually pulling this off in a match? If they're staggered they'll just avoid your slimes anyway, getting them to step on one is very difficult unless you get lucky with the special
You can just stack on top of them and jump so the slime immediately hits them
Or a harder one is use your primary skill on where they will go to and make sure the slime stops at the end of the skill so you can actually control where they go
but if you jump it'll hit them immediately, how do you aim that?
You can't aim that but it does hit the staggered dude with the slime
So like if you're lucky it can technically kill someone with that
Idk how slime ai works on staggered enemies but I'm pretty sure it's similar to how they handle cores
You can just test stuff out in practice mode
juno's damage already warrented ju-brawling before the damage buff

Can confirm redirecting people with the slime is incredibly based
It seems like a funny tech but honestly very useful almost every time I get kills I use it
we do a bit of trolling and tomfoolery
Does redirecting a person reset strike like redirecting the core?
I mean you have to M1/left click to redirect something so eh
Pretty sure it acts the same as normal strikes idk
Haven't payed attention to that when that happens since a lot of stuff is happening
Like 97% sure it doesn't
Not surprised, but it would be nice
what we saying about these juno changes
Eating good in the neighborhood
is it just me or is juno slowly getting powercrept
i think once she gets more solid awakenings for her shes going to be strong
ive been spamming a lot of juno lately for fun
character feels quite good in solo queue and can basically go any of the current strong training combos (but hot shot def incredible on her always)
good time to be juno player
So true
bootleg Juno
Who is bootleg juno
No this is real all characters are just worse Juno
I can confirm this is true every new character I play i just think what I would do as juno and do it
I think juno is very cute like if you agree
So true Juno is really cute and we must protect her from all the Juno haters
so true bestie
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@marble grove what are you thinking about the new awakenings?
I think they are all very good
Do you know if your blobs get the buff from Knife's Edge if you're in the zone?
i dont know the exact answer but if you are in the zone i belive it should give the blobs the buffed based on how some of her other interactions work
That's my thought as well. The only thing I wasn't sure on is if they're determined on spawn/cast or if it's constantly updating
i think its constantly updating i remember seeing something in a testing channel about it a while back only if it didnt take a phd to understand how creation interactions work

yeah the speed constantly updates, im not 100% sure abt the power part tho
funfact: juno blobbos stop moving when she's in air for her secondary
Yeah, it's funny watching them freeze in Practice mode
blobbos
Ngl, I love scaling with power awakenings in forward Juno just to make the core do funi red speed
Hotshot and one two punch specifically 
just tested it the power is constantly updating so the slimes hit is based on your current power not power when casted
Makes sense, thank 
How do we feel about Pummelers? I take Wand 100% of the time currently but sometimes Pum feels like it could be a better choice
If I get Bulk Up start then yes otherwise no
If you're playing Juno for damage (
), then yeah it's fine
But otherwise, Slick Kicks should just be BIS
if u are playing for damage its for sure wand
i took pummelers back in the day idk how it plays now but its nice to confirm kills
I just feel like I'm so often in the position where I'll hit someone and they'll just barely not go over the edge
I just feel like Juno should be a brawler, 5 second CD on her primary with her damage doubled 
And her dash blobbo hits the person in the direction you jump so you can dash confirm kills 
if the new game is set in the omega strikers universe ill no longer be the best juno player 😦 gonna have to change the thread name
i actually wanted to delete this thread but it seems i dont have the ability to do that. i probably wont respond anymore since game down + i dont play just let it be known most information i have said is pretty outdated and wont be fixed so use the information at your own risk. Happy to see yall appreciate the thread i spent alot of time trying to answer questions and keep it updated(even if i slacked a bit) glad it was useful. its been super fun 
u literally played 2 days ago
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i dont think playing 2 inhouses a week qualifies me 💀
shoutout to gravity even if he doesn’t play the game for 5 years he will still come back and gap all the juno players
best juno worldwide not even close 🥱
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She Juno till I blobbo
why cursor blue
this gif is not mine, so I'll just assume it's colorblind mode
although it wouldn't explain why everything else looks normal
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yoink my gif now
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