Cursed Weapons

[rugged wedge]

Server: Lawolf

Cursed weapons are rare compare to Ankou's weapons even though most of the time Giants and Violets are dead.
(There are more than x100 runs in Ankou, so basically both Giants/Violets and Dungeons are fully occupied)
But the Cursed Weapon is worthless.

Cursed weapons should be superior compare to Coral Weapons which is not the case right now even with 1 vs 1 PvE.
But of course, cursed weapons should be inferior to Ankou's Weapons.

I do believe cursed weapons need some adjustment.

[ornate lotus]

+1 for my godfather

[hearty tide]

Give the cursed weapons lifesteal

[torpid crypt]

Something like waterbomb maybe lightning bomb/ firebomb/ windbomb/ earthbomb hahaahaa

[hearty tide]

Any of these would do

[bleak mauve]

Would being able to ulti them solve this? Otherwise maybe just increase the base power so when it’s +10 it’s like between an ulti coral wep and ulti ankou wep

[gusty holly]

wait actually do Giant drop some red ? I m only at 300 + giant killed not even a single sunstones.

[rugged wedge]

yeah, saw less than 15 cursed weapons in Lawolf Server meanwhile Ankou's weapons/shield approx. 10 drop per day.

[ocean maple]

Death's Rush definitely need some adjustment, it's barely useful to run from a monster to an other less than a third of the time.

[neon compass]

skin!

[rugged wedge]

Cursed Weapon for blade works like Bloody weapon, Death's Rush not working in Off-hand.
e.g: Main Hand: Nautilus & Off-Hand: Cursed Butcher's Carnage. Just completely useless item, so easy to obtain coral weapon nowadays, cheap and fully upgraded. No point using cursed weapons.

[ocean maple]

It's so disappointing to learn it doesn't even work in off-Hand, is it because the off-hand never kill the target or just not working at all ?

[hearty tide]

Traditionally weapon abilities haven't worked in off-hand. Only ulti-weapons with lifesteal get that bonus lifesteal, but bloody weapons do not.
There's a chart somewhere about this, but I don't have it handy.

[gusty holly]

well thats a buf for sure. bc Mythical axe reflect effect works on off hand

[rugged wedge]

coral weapon waterbomb too, works on off-hand blade

[rugged wedge]

Maybe lifesteal and longer duration?

[ocean maple]

For the duration if dev's want to make death's rush something interesting it would need something like 6 seconds or twice more chance to proc so atleast you have the buff almost every time you kill a mob in 1vs1 and you have small dmg buff and speed for the first hits. I think that having lifesteal and longer duration may be too op unless it's lifesteal from making it ultimate.
Cause I tested with a 1vs1 knight and the difference of damage with and without death rush is quite impressive, for a 1vs1 it didn't felt like 15% at all.

[hearty tide]

The ability sucks, idk what you talking about.

Let's see numbers

[dim mountain]

Just give them Ultimate, everyone will be happy to have some variety, some will choose Coral over these even in Ultimate forms because of the different abilities, it will be good for the game.

[hearty tide]

Without lifesteal, the stick might as well be a Legendary Golden Stick from level 105. Quite underwhelming for 175.

[steel oak]

It's literally an un-ultimate LCStick with an extra ability slapped on

[hearty tide]

I just checked and yeah, it's basically the same, except the ability is useless. Really underwhelming. There's nothing better about it at all beyond lower level gear.

[tribal sedge]

If they make this ultimate it would degrade the value of lc weapons

[bleak mauve]

They are lvl 175 and lc are 150 what u mean bro

[tribal sedge]

Take coral skip lc get cursed weapon???? It's a no brainer

[hearty tide]

Imagine if you used a lvl 57 hyper stick all the way until 120. Crazy right? Other than for the fact I've done it every fwc.

[rugged wedge]

I don't think Cursed Weapons should be weaker than Coral/LC weapons. Since they are Lvl.175 weapons droppable only from Eillun Giants.
Even if they will make Cursed weapons Ultimate, AoE class will still choose Coral Weapons.

Not to mention, AoE class dominating in v1.5 leveling too fast because of too much monsters meanwhile 1 vs 1 class suffering. Mobs are too tanky and painful. 1 vs 1 class can't even use Coral Weapons because when waterbomb procs, you'll die from a lot of monsters

AoE class definitely not affected by this because they have coral weapons.
1 vs 1 class have only two options, Lusaka's Crystal Weapons or Straight to Ankou's weapons since Cursed Weapons are trash but the problem is, not everyone is whale and able to afford Ankou's weapons.

[bleak shard]

Fix this by improving the drop rate for them. Kinda ridiculous seeing peeps post videos and screenshots of what they’ve got dropped from giants that week when every single day I do giant runs with max drop rate and multiple chars doing it and all I get is quest items. For weeks it’s been this way. One day I killed giant kraken 8 times and not anything of value and not a single ultima either. Meanwhile dude posts a lcs sos a coral axe and something else and a couple ss. Like wtf bro

[gusty holly]

do better bro. you complain for 8 giants. I killed over 300 not even a single sunstones. but then i got like 15 sunstones 1 weapon and 5 reds in just 1 day

[bleak shard]

Pull your weight in kalgas before you tell someone to do better 😭. Also how does one do better with giant drops when the giants aren’t dropping?

[gusty holly]

because thats the only way we have to do it . occasionally players drop weapon at first run or first giant, some other have to kill 1k . it happened to me on FWC also and made me quit it because on FWC i was like 700 giants killed w/o any coral weapon.

[bleak shard]

😂 imagine having 200% drop and still can’t get nothing 😭

[bleak mauve]

Ankou weps are fairly common give it a few months and the prices will come down significantly we all know they need to adjust cursed weapons to level 165 and make them ultimate to be viable. That’s all there is to it. Budget players need a budget option and having a wep worse than the lvl 150 weps ain’t it.

[smoky pagoda]

https://discord.com/channels/778915844070834186/1444703296219775006

Also on this thread. These weapons need to be ultimateable. Lifesteal will not fix it.

The unique passive they have maybe makes hnr for mages as full int viable once more to a degree. At least a cheaper alternative to corals in those cases.

NEVER VIABLE if it can't be ulti'd

[hearty tide]

I think lifesteal wouldn't "fix" it, but the real ultimate weapons are the other ones. I still think they should put lifesteal on these, and that'll make it a budget option.

[rugged wedge]

Let's just hope they will do something about these "Cursed Weapons". If nothing happens on next maintenance, probably it will stay as is.

[gusty holly]

You know that of they do that happend , those weapon will be much better then ankous right??

[rugged wedge]

nah, ankou's weapons have so much high base damage and base stats. Too far from cursed weapons.

[bleak mauve]

my ulti+7 nemo is 800 atk power and the base cursed weps are around 600 so i would think they would be around 150 wep power with a different ability if they made them ultimate

[smoky pagoda]

Waterbomb is better than poison/bleed/stun and lusaka crystals are more sought after for for 5/8 classes.

Maybe rangers are 50/50?

[bleak mauve]

aoe is nemo prefered 1v1/dps is lcb/dr for rangers

[smoky pagoda]

Point still stands then!

If these cursed weapons can be made ultimate, they will have a role in the game.

If they stay as they are, they are basically nice brown weaps

[gusty holly]

What will be the sense to buy k fang or butcher for a blade when then u can have ultimate cursed that gives u 15 %speed 15 %pve then ?

[rugged wedge]

I think ankou's weapon still stronger, base damage diff is just crazy and not all players are into pve, theres also pvp

they just have to find a way cursed weapons better than coral/lc and not better than ankou's weapon

[gusty holly]

I m pve. And i can tell you i ve tried a clean cursed weap. And dmg was more then my golden lusaka sword wich is pve 4% and attack 3% .

You should know that base attack doesn t matter on blade as off hand man

[bleak mauve]

so for specifically blade your going to use 1 of them as offhand if they update cursed weps to be ultimate-able... what an argument to not do it... also cursed weps are currently higher level req than golden lusaka crystal so thats not really an argument that its better than your golden wep

[rugged wedge]

I'm sorry to argue but I don't believe you, If base attack doesnt matter with off-hand on blade, your golden lusaka sword is auto win because of 4% pve and 3% IA. Death's Rush doesn't proc on off-hand for your information so basically you are just lying.

As you can see in the picture, I owned golden bow and almost fully upgraded cursed bow not to mention my golden bow is 30% block penetration, not CD.

Golden Bow damage on kanonicus approx. 200-210K
Cursed Bow damage on kanonicus approx 140-150K with Death's Rush 180-190K

And most of the time even with 29% Chance, Death Rush rarely proc.

PS: I owned blade, I also have Cursed Butcher and Cursed K-fang but didn't bother upgrading because of wasting $$ on Cursed Dragon Bow
My PvE is Blade and PvP is ranger 🙂

[gusty holly]

dude learn PVE and learn how blade works. You talking about a Ranger. i m talking about Blade. and i m literally telling you with the cursed sword i literally do more dmg then LCS ( both in off hand) why tf u talking blade vs ranger ? i m literally telling if they make that Ultimate. Blade gonna benefit 100000 % more with that instead of ankou weap. Also Silver Axe supposed to don t work in off-hand ( 10% reflect ) but it actually does ! Soooooo i won t answer you anymore if you don t know blade engine . Cya
You also Said that with death rush a clean bow can do same dmg as your golden bow. isn t that crazy ? Immagine you could Ultimate that. Would you buy Ankou weap still ?

Oh BTW sell me both pls 😛 just incase they ll do it ultimate

[rugged wedge]

You need to read again and look at the picture above, Cursed Dragon Bow is not clean, its fully upgraded. And they don't do same damage, are you even reading the post? Please next time make some real testing and not just ranting in discord, we need facts not some theory theory no mi.

And learn PvE? Well this picture says it all, no need to argue. With this K-fang and Cutlass, how come my cutlass is far stronger than the Cursed K-Fang? Well, yeah thats true this one is not fully upgraded, why would I waste my money when I know the result? And where did you get that "Cursed Weapon is stronger than my Golden Sword 4PVE+3IA"? By looking at the base stats and damage of Cursed Weapons vs LC/Coral, there's no way cursed weapons can do better.

Makes no sense at all. I don't waste time here for an attention. Facts always required for balancing.

[gusty holly]

aight man. i think you not understanding my point. this suggesiont is : make cursed weapon ultimate. SO i m asking you will you even buy the Ankou Bow by then ? OBVIUS NOT ! So whats the points on new content weapons when you can have better weapon from GIANT ? they will never make this happend my man. Thats the point on this topic no ?

[rugged wedge]

Suggestion of this topic is to make some adjustment, its not necessary Ultimate. You really not reading bro. But to answer your question, people will still choose Ankou's Weapon. Why? Strongest weapon and drop easier compare to Giants in EIllun Patch. With demonic you can get x3 drop rate compare to normal Ankou not to mention running dungeon is very profitable, a lot of sunstone and cards drop in monument.

This patch is not same as Coral Update having 0.01% drop rate, Eillun Update have 0.1% drop rate with multiplier up to x3 (Demonic) except for Giants. In few months Ankou's weapon will be very cheap. In every x1 Cursed Weapon drop, I'm sure there are more than x6 Ankou's Weapon/Shield dropping. Drop rate have huge difference.

[analog phoenix]

Up. Coral weapon is big upgrade from bloody. So cursed weapon should at least clearly superior to crystal or coral weapon

[gusty holly]

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[copper pond]

When you get a cursed weapon you get cursed literally coz no one want to buy it 😂

[hearty tide]

I'll buy a Cursed Harbinger for 100m... 🤔🍿

[tawdry widget]

Cursed weapons are totally useless, should be at least a little stronger than coral weapons

[gusty holly]

agree. at this points they should have just made it fro skin w/o stats. that would have made sense. or at least , like all cursed coral weapon get a chance to craft the original one

[gusty holly]

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[outer wren]

not sure if it has been changed since this post, but Death's Rush DOES work in the off-hand

[rugged wedge]

they changed it without the patch notes then

or maybe I didn't saw the patch notes.

[copper pond]

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[gusty holly]

yes

[outer wren]

After doing some testing, I do think cursed weapons can have a place without the need of being ultimate, but there needs to be an adjustment to the Death's Rush buff that you get.

• Buff be obtained on every killing blow
• Buff last 5s at a minimum, with maybe even a 7s duration
• Buff gives 12.5% PvE on Kill and 25% move speed, stacking 2x to give 25% PvE and 50 speed (I think giving the same PvE damage as the 180 set could be very strong, and makeup for the loss of attack of no-ultimate, but would have to do some more calculations).
• On kill, you're healed based on the % of Death's Rush to your Max HP (A skill that revolves around death should have some sort of HP gain tied to it. HP on kill seems like it can make sense. Another thought was having the buff grant Lifesteal, something like .4 and stacks 2x).
• Buff is lost if the weapon is not equipped (being able to get the buff then swap Weps to benefit could have some implications of being wildly OP.)

For 1v1 classes, this could be very enticing. For mages or anyone AoE, Waterbomb is still going to carry (don't get me started on the brokenness that is WB). To combat this, you could have some sort of "corpse explosion" that does a % of the mob's HP as damage (based on Death's Chance roll), but would need some serious testing since those damage numbers could get crazy, but who knows, maybe not with how WB is.

Just some food for thought. Personally, having a weapon that would be dedicated to leveling due to its ability is pretty eye catching. Stays pretty relevant and holds value since people are always leveling, and gives you that power boost without directly competing with "best in slot end game" Weps. And since it requires killing blows to gain, dungeon runs would still be using coral Weps (unless corpse explosion finds a way in).

[bleak shard]

Easiest solution just add life steal at the same or slight increase to the bloody weapons since it’s basically a weaker counter part of the Crystal weapons and increase the duration of deaths rush to 10 seconds or basically after every kill it buffs you. Then it’ll be worth using without it being ultimate.

[copper pond]

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[gusty holly]

i would suggest also the death rush to become into HIT- Rush. same proces of waterbomb but it trigger the pve / speed.

[analog phoenix]

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[gusty holly]

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[copper pond]

Up waiting for the update

[analog phoenix]

Idea for cursed rework:

Each mob death increase action speed/cast speed gradually (like kalgas point meter) with max maybe 75% action speed.

Meter goes down gradually when no kill. But this also require increased cap for dct since dct user already 200%.

This make cursed weapon good alternative for coral weapon which still bis for aoe. And not better than anko weapon for 1v1 (which still need rework)

[hearty tide]

Honestly they should make a new skill that's just like waterbomb, put it on these, and allow them to be made ultimate.

[copper pond]

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[neon compass]

or make them sacrifice weapon to improve existing weapon or combined with coral to make cursed coral weapon...but then the anti wbomb mobs would not like it idk

[agile ermine]

Make cursed weap convertible to ultimate and death rush chance will proc on normal/skill attack based and not during death of mob. 🧐

[copper pond]

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[copper pond]

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[analog phoenix]

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[copper pond]

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[gusty holly]

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[copper pond]

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[hearty tide]

💦

[gusty holly]

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[kind sorrel]

up

[hazy shell]

up ⬆️

[autumn walrus]

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[slate epoch]

Make this ulti. UP!!!!!!!!!!

[copper pond]

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[hearty pecan]

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[analog phoenix]

[copper pond]

Posted december 5 2025 till now the status of this suggestion is "In review" 😐

[bleak shard]

https://tenor.com/view/smeagol-up-up-up-sméagol-up-gif-3193886047858607684

[copper pond]

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[copper pond]

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[analog phoenix]

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[kind sorrel]

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[analog phoenix]

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[autumn walrus]

UP

[hazy shell]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-92032370510695490

[chilly trellis]

400+ smelting reserved for cursed weapon.

[drowsy briar]

maybe add some stat in cursed weapon such as lifesteal or waterbomb etc

[copper pond]

Make an unique quest for converting cursed weapon into ultimate 😏

for example collecting qi drop from kebaras island only so pk server will be useful they will hunt pk chips to buy kebaras ticket, and then other players will enjoying kill players on pk channel.

[drowsy briar]

i totally agree

[drowsy briar]

or theres a chance to remove the cursed and make it ultimate weapon 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[drowsy briar]

make a scroll that will remove the cursed from the weapon 😁

[copper pond]

In review for 3months? How long we will wait? -_-

[bleak mauve]

maybe after fwc? u know cause they got priorities... they aint always the right ones but they got em. 😄

[chilly trellis]

how about cursed weapon can be ultimate but the values are all halves. ie LS 8% for regular but with cursed, 4% So it wont shade the value of Lusaka xtal weapon and wont compete with ankou weapon?

[thick stirrup]

till fwc

[hearty tide]

Pack it up fellas, it was a good run. Community feedback doesn't matter.

[bleak shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-toy-story-woody-so-long-partner-gif-9797730

[analog phoenix]

1/3 of fc price still no one buy. Cursed weapon are beyond useless. Like how useless are gala management team

[autumn walrus]

Coral weapons are so strong that the developers couldn’t come up with good ideas for cursed weapons, so they ended up making them useless haha.

[analog phoenix]

so no fix even before fwc?

[bleak mauve]

correct you need to wait 2-3 fwc before fixes

[analog phoenix]

Death rush : skill damage is increased for 15-30% with every monster death for 10 seconds

[analog phoenix]

Please fix this ultra useless weapon before fwc

[bleak shard]

Ive changed my mind. again. just make it ultimate and buff the deaths rush to maybe proc every kill for 5 seconds and call it a day

[hearty tide]

Man....this has been "in review" for 4 months. I mean how long does it take to reach a decision? This is why we say things like "we're talking to a brick wall", because they won't even update us on critically flawed aspects of the game that need to be fixed.

Like if they changed their mind and there won't be an update to these weapons, we should be able to know that. If they plan on making changes, we'd like to know. But at the rate they've been going, they will get to it in about 2 years. And then they'll just do some really lame change that doesn't even make them much better.

[hearty pecan]

They really need to make the curse weapon ultimate..

They are scared that LC weaps will be useless? then adjust them stats,

[bleak shard]

They could either up the stats or up the base dmg or increase the drop rate for the Crystal. But at this point I could care less which of the 2 is stronger or redundant. One is multi use and the other is pve based with a nice kill bonus that should be reworked to either a permanent buff or proc every kill for more that 3 seconds tho

[analog phoenix]

make cursed special for aoe. that alone will make it valuable and will not affect crystal. Maybe make weapon element can affect skill damage for cursed weapon. Anyway we propose too many solution already its all up to gala

[gusty holly]

even tho is good that new content weapon are abit better then olders. like cmn coral weapon are better then crystal LOL

[tribal sedge]

What i would suggest is to allow us to craft the ulti cursed weapon like combining it with either lc or coral as recipe. This will Combine their weapon effect but not too much that it overpowers the ankou weapon in pve. This would benefit aoe classes and 1v1 classes without weakening the value of lusaka weapon.

[copper pond]

I think suggestion section is now useless just check the post so many post but no devs or gm's reading or reacting in the post in this suggestions section lmao 😂

[bleak mauve]

Why are we worried about de valuing Lusaka crystal weps when they are 25 levels lower… even if cursed was just as powerful you have to get 25 MORE levels to use them…

[tribal sedge]

Common sense. Even if there is 25 more levels there is no interest in doing wilds. coral will be the best option from 140 - 165. Whats the point of doing wilds when I can get the ulti curse weapon. This is the reason why they did not make it ultimate in the first place.

[bleak mauve]

25 levels is an absurd gap especially since if you skip Lusaka then your 1v1 wep before cursed is bloody. That’s 55 levels with bloody wep for 1v1 or as a 1v1 you can use coral except you will get times waterbomb deletes you. This crystal Lusaka wep becoming obsolete is a made up issue for those that think a wep going from 6b-4b 4 years after release is because of 25 level higher weps being just as good.

[analog phoenix]

up. fix this giga trash weapon

[analog phoenix]

almost free now. and still hard to sell

[bleak shard]

Is devs or management looking at this stuff -.- Only one worth anything is oracle but actual oracle is only 4b more than the cursed version

[analog phoenix]

soon all cursed weapon will just go to npc

[uneven mica]

Still on review? Damn i dont know what to say anymore.............. why release a useless weapon?

[hearty tide]

I grabbed a cursed Harbinger for 50m. That's how trash these are. It's just a cheap skin. Lol

[hearty pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bobby-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-18269382051844334745

[bleak mauve]

I got a +9 8/8 for 200m just incase they actually make them usable in 4 years

[hearty tide]

Not bad

[analog phoenix]

Imagine 5 months since released and barely anyone use it became too good

[hearty tide]

Honestly I just want them to add lifesteal to them. Make em a nice budget weapon that isn't useless, but still of course have the higher tier chase weapons that can be made ultimate. But they should do something to make them useful.

[bleak shard]

I also grabbed me 2 axes and a bow for that exact reason 😂

[uneven mica]

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[uneven mica]

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[smoky pagoda]

Guys I just got it. They are cursed weapons as in curse these weapons

[bleak mauve]

Cursed to be cosmetics

[hearty tide]

They raking in the dough from fwc, fellas.

They got no reason or incentive to care about this. Maybe next year.

[smoky pagoda]

Can we make them lvl 150 requirement?

Easiest high value fix to these weaps. You will sell more reducs too

[hearty pecan]

up for ULTIMATE Curse Weapon ♥ 🙂

[bleak mauve]

i killed a bunch of giants now with no cursed wep drops but when i do get them and when they update them ill be rich i tell you

[analog phoenix]

No update until fwc 2028

[hearty tide]

Next update, fellas. Trust

[copper pond]

For ever "In Review" status

[analog phoenix]

best weapon ever