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[lavish maple]

Biggest issue would be resellers
Buy entire stock of something put it back in but more expensive
Other issue is Gala earns money with vendors

[cosmic ether]

Of course it would change to benefit resellers, these terminally online players would just have to sit in the same place scanning auction house 24/7 instead of actually putting in some effort by checking every shop in every city.

The economy would become even more dead, as the gap between casual and terminally online players would even further increase, because auction house would only make resellers task easier, and you know this because you were a PC flyff player and you saw first hand the massive death and inflation that came from adding auction house to that game.

But you know all this because this topic has been discussed multiple times in the past in suggestions and you even acknowledge that in your post, but funnily enough you pretend that at the time real arguments against this weren't provided.

What can i say, just another day of someone trying to push their own personal agenda for their own benefit, in this case to make this game closer to flyff PC, the community where you allegedly ask for unban almost daily. I wish they would unban you from that burning dumpster just so you can have your fun back with all their broken balance and features, so you wouldn't feel the need to push these broken PC flyff pieces into flyff universe.

[lavish maple]

My guy you didn’t have to kill him

[frozen oyster]

Me and my friends play this Flyff U for nostalgia. Old school flyff. And if u put auction house, towns will be void of players and its kinda sad.

[grim anvil]

Iz actually fun looking around when you’re bored with the game HAHAHA

[modest quarry]

Nope, there would be a fee, like 5%.
Resellers dont care about 1%. Probably not even about 5%. Likely something like 10% would be good.

But also not a fan of an auction house for all items as it would kill the vibe of the game. (Shopping, full cities). But would be great if players can auction 1 weapon or a complete set at the same time. Easier than offering/updating offers all the time

[hollow jasper]

Pros:
-Saves time on buying and selling stuffs.
-Saves buyer/seller from being ripped off price
-If auction house is taxed, a decent way to burn penya inflation
Cons:
-Market Towns will look like a ghost time. The game is dying putting AH will make the game look dead more
-Trading will be less organic. FU is one of the few remaining mmorpg that has a vending trading a very nostalgic feat that mirrors the way of trading since ancient times. AH is like a modern era way of trading. Amazon/Shopify/Alibaba/Shopee
-Easier way to manipulate Market. Which may results to faster inflation
-Devs will lose revenue from Vendor Skins

Auction House may work on modern mmorpg but flyff is built differently. it was introduced to vending type of trading and i personally think that the Vendor mode of FU is already enough QoL improvement for the game Flyff as a whole. therefore is a NO for me

[coarse crescent]

I’d pay 5kfcoins for 1month auction house scroll as long as it has buying option…

[frozen oyster]

Yes id burn time just to roam around looking stuff.

[radiant wadi]

"the community" or you? 😄

[hollow jasper]

sure its better and it has its pros but as you can see. vote wise alone here in your suggestions says that as of now these community doesnt prefer AH. and the fact it was denied since the beginning shows that we dont need AH just yet. maybe in the distant future you can suggest it again but majority still dont like AH.if you really want to push it, gather your so called "community" and show us the need for AH, cuz the way i see it you are losing on the poll that you made. but in the end it is still in the hands of the developer, cuz even with high upvote from the community, sometime it is still denied

[hollow jasper]

who in the right mind would like to waste their time. of course my answer is a big NO. im done with this tread, us people above already gave our concerns about AH. but you seems are centered on the idea of time management benefit and dont see the bigger picture. Anyways hope you and your so called "community" get your AH soon. cheers mate! happy flying!

[pliant obsidian]

we don't want an auction house dude why are you speaking for us lmao

[hexed wren]

I want one, there is no reason to not add it

[radiant wadi]

the community

[pliant obsidian]

I like playing the game as the old FlyFF experience, and looks that most of us agree with that, as you can see.

[grim anvil]

I like wasting my time going through shops and the thrill of looking for good priced items, or even expensive ones. Having an auction house sucks up all the excitement

[fickle pollen]

Im generally pro AH but maybe a compromise would be a good solution eg. only allow stackable items in auction house. So if you are looking for a new weapon you have to look through shops but buying upgrade materials could be done through AH?!

[fickle pollen]

But realistically AH with premium items will not be implemented because it would make it to easy to buy them from other players instead of buyig FCOIN and buy them urself in Cashshop

[pliant obsidian]

bro we like the shops as is and that's it
if you think we're wasting our time, no problem at all

[grim anvil]

I'm okay staring at a wall. It's relaxing to me. Hehe, same as going around the shops. It's called shopping for a reason. If you shop in real life, you go from one shop to another too yeah?

[tribal oar]

Hmm I wonder what causes more turnover? retail shopping or online shopping?
People want convenience when looking for specific stuff. If you want to window shop you mostly only buy random things you didn't need initially

Same thing with flyff. I don't wanna waste 1h looking for a specific item. If you want that cool for you. You do you

I stated my opinion in previous suggestions and in general chat a few times already. I'm against the classic idea of an Auction House due to towns getting empty. But still I'd like to see a system which lets you browser/filter contents of open shops/vendors and set a marker for those on the minimap, so you still have to run to them.
This keeps the density of shops ins towns untouched, while offering the ability to skip having look through 500 shops

[tribal oar]

Less shops = less apparent activity = less players = less economy = less items in auction house.

You'd shoot urself in the knee with removing shops

[pliant obsidian]

You're literally staring at a screen in front of a wall, dude.
Most of people just doesn't like your suggestion, and you're still being rude and trying to change our minds.
You gave us your point, but we just don't agree with you and that's it.
People likes the old FlyFF era when we needed to keep an eye to the shout chat, and checking shops in town.
If you don't like it, just quit, since I don't think they'll change it because most of us are satisfied as is.

[hexed wren]

Auction House doesnt mean any shops, when they released the AH in Flyff PC towns were still filled with shops

[tribal oar]

From my experience with pc flyff casual items got vanished from regular shops. Shops were mostly made for L/O-stuff aka sets/weapons/jewelry which decreased the demand for regular shops -> less shops

[hollow jasper]

If you just want to save time finding item you want, why not just suggest a vendor finder.

Scroll of Vendor finder:
When used, a window will pop up and you will able to search an item like a general exchange thing. Put an item info, window give you a list of all.vendor with its price,ign, location and if you click the specific vendor a pathfinder will direct u to the vendor and that vendor will be highlighted for easy spotting. Scroll expires if you close the window,change channel,town, time duration expires.

With this Town will still looks crowded and create an illusion, people can check market price easily

Ofcourse this comes with a price and its premium. 10 fc per scroll would be fair maybe or if its too much for the community, sell it via penya. Atleast it would shave a few penya in circulation

[hollow jasper]

I guess theres no point discussing here with an OP who is decided already and closed minded. have a nice day.

And this dicussion is talk about way before FU opened and majority dont want GE/AH trading. Look it up on reddit FU

[hollow jasper]

Its not just about nostalgia. The fact that bot is an issue in FU and can be used in auction to manipulate the market easily is one of the drawbacks of GE. Take this for an experience is Playpark Flyff. The moment they introduced Auction House inflation spiked and market got rumble. RMT became a norm cuz of the ridiculous prices in AH. But i do believe GE/AH can be a good thing if properly execute look at runescape they pulled it off When introducing General exchange. Lets just face it at the moment vendor mode is still working and still prefered by many.

[hybrid leaf]

I like walking through town looking at shops after a long grind. Vendor helps players resell and make some penya ah will just make undercutting much easier and can get pretty toxic.perhaps they can make an ah just for certain items it can even be a feature inside vendor to register allowed items into ah or items registered in ah are taxed or more expensive to still encourage players to go through vendors . I'm probly repeating some posts here . Some quality of life features can kill the atmosphere of the game or community.

[hexed wren]

Inflation spiked because 99.9% of all penya was duped on every server ever

[teal anvil]

I’m trying to get 75-120reds and every time u have 3 set parts together I already need the higher level set because you can’t find anything with these 1 trillion shops

[hollow jasper]

Who said i dont want? Alot of QoL are good for the game like the improvement we had in FU this include vendor mode and some isnt fit for the game. An example of modern qol is auto path quest and auto combat. They are an example of QoL of a game. You think that will be fit in an old mmorpg like flyff? Auction house has been long dabated since the alpha test of FU and people still dont upvote it. Again maybe the near future. Having a centralize exchange can lead to rapid inflation if not regulated.

Ps im done. Not sure if your trolling or what but i dont really see a significant discussion with you.

[pliant obsidian]

nice bait lmao I bite it until this message haha

[pliant obsidian]

dude, how old are you? be honest please

[hexed wren]

If shops are so great and better why would it even bother you when they add an Action House, because based on your arguments its trash and nobody would use it cause its worse for the game? Because its the opposite literally EVERYONE will use it cause its SO much better in every way than the outdated slow shop system.

It Benefit resellers
Resellers are already omnipresent at the current market reselling items worth billions. The only thing it benefits them is the speed they could do it. Reselling is not a bad thing by any means, literally everyone does it to some extend, even buying a cheap set part and selling it at a vendor is reselling. The change to without and with an action house is very minor. ( Based on the history of EFlyff)

the massive inflation came from the auction house
Thats completly wrong it came from the dupers, 99.9% of all penya on all flyff pc servers were duped. Also on flyff pc npc items are around 3 times more worth than here, so also botters cause that.

the economy will be dead
The econemy will be more stable than ever. No random price spikes such as 2 shops next to each other both with the same item but one has it for 1mio and the other for 20mio.

Also the econemy will be more alive than ever because of the accessibilty, some people just dont even care anymore to waste 30mins to find an item, unless they REALLY need to.

the towns will be empty
Thats wrong. Flyff Pc had full towns with shops years after AH introduction, and that game had at that time half the player base of FU.

they cant make money of vendor skins
Merchant agreement exists
An item which increases the amount of items you can put into the ah and increases the time you can make these items stay there.

I like wasting my time going through shops and not finding an item. Or even buying one and finding it 1min later for half of thr price. Nice.

[next cove]

Not sure if you guys ever tried to manipulated a game
But with AH you can manipulate it completely solely buying all the pd4 and list them 10x the price, any new coming listing will be bought instantly.

I already did it on ms2 back than, where I hold a server majority “penya” and could dictated any new incoming items pricing. Anyway as we see now it’s a major disagreement

[fickle pollen]

bruh it doesnt even have to be free, give it some percentage fee so its even a penya sink all you guys really would like to have win-win, two birds with one stone!
charge my ar... to be lazy and some people will even make shops to cricumvent the fee so its not totaly empty

[hexed wren]

PD are a wortless item whats your point? Literally everyone has thousands of them, the only thing are catcher mats and that system is garbage, the return to Moon/Sunstones or just PD without Mats is the smarter move

[hybrid leaf]

I can't recall what would make moon/Sunstones a better system. Wouldn't they be just as farmable as pd

[hexed wren]

Both have Pro and Cons
PD
+

• cooler
• higher upgrawe chance with 10/12

(-)

• 6 items

Moon/Sun
+

• only 2 items
• easier to understand

(-)

• less cool
• no higher chance version

[fickle pollen]

yeah me too

[radiant wadi]

2 times more ❌ than

Community has spoken

[crimson ruin]

auction house for the smart people pls

[radiant wadi]

Toxic

I mean its okay, it just seems you cannot handle it if you don‘t get your will

[hexed wren]

There are more postives than negatives for an AH. I already debunked most of the arguments against it. The only thing people is saying thr just dont like it because of their opinion. Sad.

Nostalgia =/= Good

[hybrid leaf]

They can just do both keep their paid vendor and registered items in shop go into AH with or without tax

[radiant wadi]

Its a voting, I voted with my own opinion? Whats your problem with people having an own will or just a different opinion?

[radiant wadi]

I like it the way it is. I am playing the game right now, I like searching stuff and look into different shops for an item. It takes more time, but it gives me some kind of inner relief. Also I like the idea that you have to think about where you position your shop and that the positioning depends on what you want to sell.

So from my point of view, and thats mine and you cannot argue that, it would reduce the fun I have ingame if there would be an AH.

I played games with AH but I came back to Flyff because of the shop system that I like.

I hope you can start accept people feel different. And that this people are not just dumb for not being your opinion.

[crimson ruin]

QoL auction house to save time

[hexed wren]

So we going now from the action house is trash because this, this and this to the auction house is trash because i dont like it

[lavish quiver]

If they made it like the one osrs has I would be ok with it, but I dont trust the devs to do it right

[sour ridge]

I think this is one of the hardest battles with this game. Give it a rest and implement a dang AUCTION HOUSE ALREADY. sheeeesh. e.e

[crimson ruin]

pls nuke this. dreams and hopes destroyed.