bri'ish quid

[brisk tide]

hi

you see this?

[south bronze]

yes im british

anyways

so

here is my room its dirty

sorry abt that

[brisk tide]

lol mood, dw about it

[south bronze]

how do i make the thread bigger

oh there we go

so you see the shelf

at the back

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

im going to replace that

with my pc

[fallow aspen]

so, a thread?

[south bronze]

so i need the cables going to the right

if you know what i mean

[brisk tide]

hmm

[south bronze]

hmm

[brisk tide]

so you plan to strap the cables on the top of the bunk bed desk thingy

[south bronze]

?

wait wat

[brisk tide]

nvm lol

[south bronze]

ill try draw it

this is my shelf

im going to remove it

and put a pc there. if i get it inverted, the window will be faced towards me right

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

and the cables will go out the right

[brisk tide]

i see now

[south bronze]

yes

[brisk tide]

that's a great idea

[south bronze]

oh thanks

[fallow aspen]

oh so inverted as in the window on the other side?

[south bronze]

hmm. no idea what that means

just the window facing me and the other window facing the left

[fallow aspen]

hm I thought you meant upside down

[south bronze]

and cables come out the right

[brisk tide]

like this:

basically

[south bronze]

im not so sure anymore

like this

cables come out the right

[brisk tide]

that too

[fallow aspen]

oh apparently it is upside down

[south bronze]

and this

yea

is it upside down?

idk

[brisk tide]

rip

[fallow aspen]

interesting, first time I’ve ever heard about inverted case

hm reactions still work lol

[south bronze]

the

lian li 011 d evo

idk the difference between 011d and 011d evo

confusing

[brisk tide]

the evo has a lot more quality of life improvements, option to run it inverted, and has the option for a front mesh panel

[south bronze]

so ill get evo ig

[brisk tide]

you can check the gamers nexus review

[south bronze]

so. may i get help

[south bronze]

okie

[south bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0wecnSTdy4
watched this one

[brisk tide]

yup

[south bronze]

yes

so

do you think i can get a pc and monitor for around £3000

[brisk tide]

that's easy

in fact, i could fit a PC + monitor + mic + headphones + headphones amp in 3K

let alone 3.5K

what headphones/mic do you have right now

[south bronze]

just normal gaming headphones

cheap

i have a custom keyboard which costs more than my laptop so i dont need a keyboard lol

[brisk tide]

no-name chinesium headset?

[south bronze]

yessir

[brisk tide]

yeah those are getting upgraded

[south bronze]

hahaa

okay

a mic will be nice too

[brisk tide]

what's the mouse in this pic? also generic no-name?

[south bronze]

yes

lol

[brisk tide]

monkau

[south bronze]

?

[brisk tide]

anyway

[south bronze]

whats monkau

lol

[brisk tide]

the emote i posted

[south bronze]

ah i see

[brisk tide]

looks like we also have the silent base 802 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/ZjtKHx,4cPQzy/

[south bronze]

lol

ah

[brisk tide]

costs the same as the o11 evo but the silent base comes with some fans unlike the o11

[south bronze]

preferably lian li 011 d evo

cuz i can upright mount

[brisk tide]

the silent base can invert too

which is why i put it there

[south bronze]

oh

can it upright mount tho?

[brisk tide]

wdym? mount the GPU on the side?

[south bronze]

no

on the left btw

this mount

[brisk tide]

ah that's what you mean

yeah afaik only the evo can do that

so i'll keep it in the list

[south bronze]

yup

[south bronze]

tell me when your done ig

oh typing and gone lmao

[brisk tide]

this is what i was thinking for a PC + peripheral upgrades around your budget
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RvRFKp

mouse can also be bought on amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08P1PWN2Q

[south bronze]

oh das a lot

das an expensive cpu ngl

[brisk tide]

it's also hella fast

and has overclocking support

[south bronze]

i wont overclock so

thats okay

well i dunno

should i?

[south bronze]

isnt the ram. hella expensive

and how bad is corsair vengeance

cuz i would prefer 32gb ram cuz 4 ram sticks look nicer lol

@brisk tide whats jds atom amp

[brisk tide]

amplifier for the headphones so that they'll sound better

[south bronze]

oh god damn thats expensive

why dont i just get intel i5 12600k

[brisk tide]

because the budget was huge, so i put in the 12700K

[south bronze]

i thought not much of a difference between the 2

lel

3%

[brisk tide]

?userbenchmark

[sage widget]

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We prefer to use proper review sites and benchmarks such as Cinebench R20 for CPU performance and 3DMark's TimeSpy, a free demo is available on Steam ( or click here: steam://install/231350 ), for easy system performance comparison.

For more information regarding why not to use UBM, visit
https://ownsnap.com/userbenchmark-is-not-trusted-by-tech-enthusiasts-find-out-why-this-huge-website-has-a-zero-credibility-in-tech-community/

[south bronze]

yea okay

big difference or no

cuz its like

$$$ more

[brisk tide]

in multi core performance, yes

it can also be OCed quite a bit more

[south bronze]

and whats this aio i really want it

[brisk tide]

a white NZXT Z73, but it's trash for how much it costs

[south bronze]

those fans are lian li tho right

cuz i like those fans

[brisk tide]

they are lian li ones, yes

[south bronze]

yes

is it possible to get like. a radiator. and get those lian li fans attached

[brisk tide]

unifans also have trash performance and noise levels for how much they cost

it's highly advised to get the STs

[south bronze]

hmm but they look nice no?

alr np

corsair are shit right

for the price

[brisk tide]

yep

[brisk tide]

also, you can actually https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Mdt9TW,wXddnQ,DN92FT,CVZ9TW/

[south bronze]

but not worth it

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/DPrYcf/lg-27gn950-b-270-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-27gn950-b

is bad?

144 and 160 difference is big or no

[brisk tide]

this should be a good monitor, but i wasn't able to access the store link

[south bronze]

i thought after like 120 not too different

[south bronze]

oh i see

[brisk tide]

no, the tuning and response times of the 27GP950-B are a bit better anyway

[south bronze]

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/electriq-27-4k-uhd-144hz-usb-c-monitor-eiq-274k144ifsghuca/version.asp?refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=sXTuT7cQT_dc&pcrid=516045279059&product=eiQ-274K144IFSGHUCA&pgrid=120041014286&ptaid=pla-1233848925085&channel=googlesearch&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3N-l79_w-AIVRurtCh1Osg90EAQYAiABEgKYEPD_BwE

ic

[brisk tide]

i have no idea what the performance of this is, since there's no review

[south bronze]

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/samsung-odyssey-g7-ls28ag700nuxxu-4k-ultra-hd-28-led-gaming-monitor-black-10224272.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=pwwxiprpp&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - Top SKUs Generic~wk11~Exact~71700000071533684~&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700072030897838&tgtid=0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - Top SKUs Generic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3N-l79_w-AIVRurtCh1Osg90EAQYASABEgLK9fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

samsung?

and also what does ssd do

[brisk tide]

you store windows, games, and other stuff on it

[south bronze]

cant you use a hard drive

[brisk tide]

hard drives are terrible for operating systems

[south bronze]

because?

[brisk tide]

slow

[south bronze]

so what is it slow at

like opening the app?

[brisk tide]

start up times, responsiveness, game frametimes

[south bronze]

so its very important and i cant downgrade it

[brisk tide]

yes

you should never use an HDD for the OS in 2022

[south bronze]

i cant downgrade to a worse ssd?

or use ssd + hdd

[brisk tide]

i put in a 2TB SSD since it's the most convenient and quietest option compared to using an SSD + HDD and more of your games will load fast

but SSD + HDD is viable if you want a lot of storage

[south bronze]

quietest?

[brisk tide]

HDDs make noise

[south bronze]

oooooooh i see

but 2tb is a lot isnt it

[brisk tide]

actually i can put in 2x1 TB SSDs, it's cheaper

[south bronze]

oh

but then

[brisk tide]

honestly, for a lot of people, even 1TB is a lot

[south bronze]

if i download all my games on the ssd and like extra files and photos on hdd isnt that fine?

[brisk tide]

depends on your use case

[south bronze]

yea i doubt ill use 500...

gb

lol

and is 2x16gb better than 4x8

[brisk tide]

yes

[fallow aspen]

usually, yes

[brisk tide]

2x16 is generally easier for the CPU's memory controller to run and has more overclocking potential

[fallow aspen]

4 sticks can place a higher strain on the IMC, especially DDR5 there can be a pretty significant loss in performance with 4 sticks

[south bronze]

should i overclock

[south bronze]

im using ddr4

[fallow aspen]

same principle, best to use 2 sticks

[south bronze]

ah

cuz im sort of an aesthetics guy, 4 looks nicer lol

thats my only motivation

pfft

to use 4 sticks

[fallow aspen]

there is RGB sticks in a DIMM form factor lol

[south bronze]

?

no idea wat that means lol

[fallow aspen]

just RGB lights that look like a stick of RAM you put in the motherboard

[south bronze]

I CAN DO THAT?

can i have a link plz

and is 32gb neccesary or 16gb is enough

[fallow aspen]

sorry, don’t have a link, only know that they exist

[south bronze]

ok no problem

[fallow aspen]

also, go 16, unless you really need it doing rendering and other tasks

[south bronze]

whats that

[south bronze]

@brisk tide

[south bronze]

my requirements are at the top

[fallow aspen]

16 should be fine, regular video editing shouldn’t use too much RAM

[brisk tide]

eh, at 3.5K you may as well put in 32 GB

[south bronze]

not 3.5k

thats pushing it

mayb 3k

well i said 2-3.5k but 3.5k is pushing a bit lol

[south bronze]

ok

then wat ram to get

[fallow aspen]

crucial ballistix is usually the go-to RAM, but it might be hard to find in stock

[south bronze]

the rgb ones 16gb used to be £60

3200mhz

[brisk tide]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mGnGnt
this list has 4x8 RAM since you wanted the aesthetic

[south bronze]

ah its ok

oh wait

nvm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Vengeance-Enhancement-Enthusiast-Illuminated/dp/B07L2SKQX9/ref=sr_1_3?adgrpid=76648006463&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1dfCiOPw-AIVN4BQBh3TNgrnEAAYASAAEgICDvD_BwE&hvadid=381605565589&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007204&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8341996207097332510&hvtargid=kwd-774172423393&hydadcr=28148_1752695&keywords=rgb+dummy+ram&qid=1657540373&sr=8-3

[fallow aspen]

also there’s some decent G Skill kits, but you have to be pretty careful with their RAM because some models are pretty bad while others excellent

[south bronze]

wdym

[brisk tide]

these actually don't work very well, from what i've heard

[south bronze]

oh i see

[brisk tide]

plus, shitty corsair icue software

may as well get 32 gb tbh lol

if you do bigger projects in the future, 32 gb would help.

[south bronze]

ooooh

there is no white one

[brisk tide]

mobo is black anyway

so the RAM will match with it better

there aren't any motherboards with white dimm slots

[south bronze]

whats dimm

[brisk tide]

the memory slot

[brisk tide]

it can also be helpful if you like to mod games

[south bronze]

nope

@brisk tide question. this bad or no

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-Aluminum-Memory-Heatsink-Addressable/dp/B07N8C8LKZ/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=128051180831&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOGAt-Pw-AIVSLDtCh0kaw43EAAYASAAEgJWbfD_BwE&hvadid=606134414305&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007204&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10236864290742359209&hvtargid=kwd-708718935110&hydadcr=19051_2281223&keywords=akasa+vegas+ram+mate&qid=1657540559&sr=8-1

[brisk tide]

these probably will work but they require you to use RAM sticks without heatspreaders

[south bronze]

so what does that mean

[brisk tide]

or take off the heatspreaders from another kit of RAM

[south bronze]

thats hard?

[brisk tide]

you see how most RAM kits have heatsinks on them?

[south bronze]

yes

[brisk tide]

the thing you linked is one of those

[south bronze]

okay

[brisk tide]

just the heatsink

[south bronze]

is it hard to take them off

[brisk tide]

you need a hair dryer, sometimes the memory chips will stick to the glue and break off when removing

[south bronze]

ok no

im not doing that

lol

[brisk tide]

not really worth it for the average person

just buy one that comes with RGB lol

[south bronze]

cuz i just wanted white rgb sticks lol

[brisk tide]

the thing you linked isn't even white tho

[south bronze]

yea

sadly

i thought there was white variant

i looked back and i was like, ah oops

is there any other white ram stick alternative with rgb

or no

cuz corsair is shit

[brisk tide]

this is white with no RGB https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zCCFf7/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bl2k8g30c15u4w

[brisk tide]

their RAM is just overpriced and can't use motherboard software for the lighting, but it's not inherently bad unlike their case fans

[south bronze]

yea sadly

[south bronze]

oh so its just expensive?

then its not a problem

[brisk tide]

you can get ballistix for cheaper, so it's hard to justify

[south bronze]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XJVG3C/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-4-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16q-32gtznc
is this brand bad or no

[south bronze]

yea thats true. but not white

[brisk tide]

why does it cost as much as DDR5

[south bronze]

i thought its ddr4

[brisk tide]

i'm saying it costs as much as DDR5, not that it is ddr5

[south bronze]

yes

is that brand any good tho

[brisk tide]

anyway, it's another RAM brand

they all rebrand memory chips from samsung/nanya/micron/sk hynix anyway

so don't pay attention to the brand

[south bronze]

oh

why does crucial not have the white rgb version of it tho

[brisk tide]

they do, it's just not in stock atm

[south bronze]

lower cl the better right

[south bronze]

yea for a long time

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

crucial is cl 16?

[brisk tide]

the black ones in my list are, yep

and they're very overclockable

[south bronze]

should i overclock or no

like is it dangerous?

it increases the risk right

[brisk tide]

just don't shove a silly amount of voltage into the CPU or RAM, and you're perfectly safe. GPU's stock VBIOS will restrict how much voltage can be pushed into it

[brisk tide]

depends, dialing in a good OC can take a while of stability testing but you can gain a lot of personal satisfaction from it

[south bronze]

ok ill just listen to your recommended overclocking

does it make a large difference or no

is corsair's maths okay?

[brisk tide]

since you're playing at 4K, honestly not really. but CPU OC would get a decent boost in rendering performance

GPU OC would give a bit more gaming performance, just not by that much

since the GPU will generally be pushed close to the limit already

[south bronze]

but if i have a 160hz monitor

most games will be above 160 wont it

and if i put all my games on my ssd, lets say 1tb and i have a hdd for 1tb but put all photos in there, it wont affect performance will it?

[brisk tide]

depends, playing demanding AAA games but with reasonable settings (4K high with RTX off) it would probably be closer to 120 to 140-ish
lightweight games such as counter strike or fortnite etc. will be above 160

[brisk tide]

correct

[south bronze]

im sorry i changed a few things. i have no idea what im doing but i just chose whats aesthetically pleasing to me.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wstWBj

[brisk tide]

although 1TB HDDs cost about the same as 2TB HDDs

[south bronze]

if im wrong please correct me

cuz im dum

[south bronze]

hmm ok

[brisk tide]

that mobo is pretty hard to justify for how much it costs, since you can get Z690 for about the same price
the 6900 XT is also slower than the 12GB 3080 in most games in 4K

depends on the game

[south bronze]

slower by a lot or not really

because games ill play will be like

valorant

minecraft

csgo

[brisk tide]

funny thing is that the 6900 XT would be slower than a 3080 12GB in minecraft due to radeon openGL support

[south bronze]

lmao

[brisk tide]

especially with shaders on

[south bronze]

but would be above 144hz anyways right?

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

mhm

whats a AAA game

[brisk tide]

high budget game made by a huge studio, an example being call of duty

or cyberpunk 2077

[south bronze]

ah

do u think i can search benchmarks on which games i would play and look for a video that compare the 2

or are those benchmarks wrong too

like on yt

[brisk tide]

you can check this: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6950-xt-reference-design/
it's a review of the 6950 XT but it has data for the 6900 XT, 12 GB 3080, etc.

so it's newer

[south bronze]

ok

imma read

what about the 6950

is that better than 3080

[brisk tide]

yeah

although, it tends to cost too much compared to the 6900 XT to be worth it

[south bronze]

yea

its £300 more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEMIzJJMm6c

so this would be wrong

[brisk tide]

those rando benchmarks are usually not helpful when compared to ones by professional reviewers

e.g. hardware unboxed, techpowerup, guru3d, igorslab, gamers nexus, tom's hardware

[south bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqLX05hMuQ

i was watching this one

but they are similar right

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

okay

its just. er again. aesthetics lol

cuz imma mount it upright

[south bronze]

like dis

sadly these lian li fans are apparently bad

so

i thought its easy to wire them. daisy chain or something

[brisk tide]

the normal lian li fans that come on the galahad look fine too

[south bronze]

yes they do

im fine with those

[brisk tide]

the lian li ST fans can daisy chain

[south bronze]

ooo thats nice

no hassle

and question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl2IDMd2l4c

is it possible to do this on inverted case

@brisk tide

[brisk tide]

it might be

[south bronze]

ah

[south bronze]

the gpu cable is 8pin?

or 12

[brisk tide]

two 8 pin

[south bronze]

i need to buy that?

[brisk tide]

it comes on the PSU

[south bronze]

oh i see

and the 24pin atx

is it possible to get the lian li ones

like the nice rgb ones

[brisk tide]

yeah i guess

[south bronze]

okie

[south bronze]

are there color varients for those or is it 1 color

[brisk tide]

seems to just be one color

[south bronze]

okie

and this is all i need right

and i should probably change mobo right

well you told me its hard to justify it

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wstWBj

[brisk tide]

i would get the PRO Z690-A https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xHnGnt

you still have the option of OC with the Z690-A and more M.2 slots

[south bronze]

yea that was my other option

isnt there a white other mobo

[brisk tide]

the other ones were either micro ATX or much worse than the Z690-A

i like this one https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/pzstt6/msi-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4

[south bronze]

ASRock Z690 Steel Legend?

Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4
or this?

[brisk tide]

doesn't have wifi (which you needed) and it's still way more expensive

[south bronze]

yes this was the other one

any good?

[brisk tide]

it's okay, but this rear I/O is unacceptable for how much it costs and it costs more than the MSI board

[brisk tide]

yeah it's good

[south bronze]

why?

[brisk tide]

the rear i/o of the prime z690-p is what you'd expect from a $120 B660, not a $200 Z690

[south bronze]

oh

ok

[brisk tide]

this is the pro z690-a, it has a bit more

[south bronze]

i can change the color of the rgb on my gpu or no

[brisk tide]

yup you can

[south bronze]

whats the point in it tho

like what do i use these ports for

[brisk tide]

devices

keyboard, mouse, controller, webcam, etc.

i'm using like 8 of them

[south bronze]

i need that many ports?

[brisk tide]

depends, what are you gonna plug into the PC

[south bronze]

er

mouse and keyboard

headphone

monitor

[brisk tide]

put it in one message

[south bronze]

ok

and can you walk me through the microphone and amp things

me have no idea what they are lol

[south bronze]

wat do i need to plug

[brisk tide]

obviously you need a keyboard/mouse/monitor/headphones connected (mic for communication)

[south bronze]

ok. what else? is there anything else or not really

[brisk tide]

controller?

webcam?

[south bronze]

oh monitor doesnt come with one does it

[brisk tide]

the monitor doesn't come with a webcam, no

[south bronze]

ah i see. i can just use usb no? connect it to the monitor

[brisk tide]

the monitor will use display port or HDMI

not USB for the video output

[south bronze]

no i mean

webcam

[brisk tide]

oh you're talking about a USB hub on the monitor

yeah you can

the odyssey G70A in your list has two USB ports

[south bronze]

is it any good

the monitor

[brisk tide]

the G70A is a very good monitor

[south bronze]

its not g70a?

idk

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/samsung-odyssey-g7-ls28ag700nuxxu-4k-ultra-hd-28-led-gaming-monitor-black-10224272.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=pwwxiprpp&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - Top SKUs Generic~wk11~Exact~71700000071533684~&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700072030897838&tgtid=0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - Top SKUs Generic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3N-l79_w-AIVRurtCh1Osg90EAQYASABEgLK9fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

just G7

OR IM DUM

caps lock

[brisk tide]

it's called the G70A in some other places
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/28-odyssey-g7-qhd-led-gaming-monitor-ls28ag700nnxza/

lol samsung themselves

[south bronze]

oh i see

good tho?

[brisk tide]

yes

[south bronze]

okie

is it possible to get a

monitor stand

like the arm thingy

[brisk tide]

yep

[south bronze]

white?

[brisk tide]

probably, although would it really be seen that much

[south bronze]

nah

if i find a color variant ill get it anyways

does the arm matter much or

not rlly

any will do

[brisk tide]

monitor arms mounted to the desk give you more adjustability, it's nice to have

[south bronze]

ok

[brisk tide]

are you talking about something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Suptek-Single-Monitor-Adjustable-Spring/dp/B0833NQ8CR/

[south bronze]

yess

[brisk tide]

i wish i got one lol

[south bronze]

why dont you get one?

[brisk tide]

i got a basic monitor arm like this: https://www.amazon.com/WALI-Monitor-Adjustable-Capacity-M002/dp/B018MSDG84

and as to why, i got it for 20 bucks

it was real cheap

[south bronze]

wass the difference

[brisk tide]

my arm has very little adjustability

[brisk tide]

this is a lot more adjustable and easier to adjust

[south bronze]

doesnt need to be curved screen right

[brisk tide]

nope, it doesn't

[south bronze]

https://www.atumtek.com/products/desk-monitor-mount-adjustable-gas-spring-computer-arm?spm=..collection_3c5a932a-4af9-4c48-9c0e-960f134348f7.collection_detail_1.2&spm_prev=..index.header_1.1

cuz i liked this one lol

[south bronze]

and how many sockets do i need to power all this

i dont have many lol

[brisk tide]

PC has one, monitor has one

so, two plugs

[south bronze]

is that it? god damn

[south bronze]

do i need any speakers

or did you add and im just dum

[brisk tide]

the headphones will provide sound like speakers

so you don't need speakers

[south bronze]

what if i wanted to play with no headphones tho

then i need speakers

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

i can just get some cheap ass ones tho right

[brisk tide]

cheap and good ones are creative pebbles

[south bronze]

?

wat

[brisk tide]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-Minimalistic-Enhancement-Bluetooth-Converter/dp/B08F5BQZL8

[south bronze]

oh i see

[fallow aspen]

you can get one of those boards that split plugs into several different sockets if you really need those

[brisk tide]

these are better actually (these use 3.5mm instead of usb) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-Pebble-Desktop-Speakers-Black/dp/B0791H74NT

well, arguably

[south bronze]

oh

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Redragon-Soundbar-Computer-Audio-Light-Touch-Control/dp/B08X6LYPHK/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=122879036152&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo8DI-vPw-AIVi7HtCh3JFQ8xEAAYASAAEgJQ8vD_BwE&hvadid=605958741960&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007204&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4624526399282483057&hvtargid=kwd-1231737516689&hydadcr=25678_2695779&keywords=redragon+gs560&qid=1657544907&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFMSTFPTFdaVk1GSkEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4NjIwNjMyWUdHMlFJM0Y3RE83JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyMjQ0OTQyN1VUSUMwRExLRTlDJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

any like this

like soundbar

cuz dat fits my table nice lol

@brisk tide

[south bronze]

are they any good

[brisk tide]

i'm not aware of any sound bar that has good sound quality

i would just get the pebbles

there are in white too https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-Pebble-Desktop-Speakers-White/dp/B0791J2658/

[south bronze]

hmm i see

okie

is it possible to put led light strips in the pc? like on the rim

on the inside of the pc

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

or do you think i have enough rgb

[brisk tide]

people do that all the time

[brisk tide]

some would argue you can never have enough RGB

[south bronze]

lmao

[south bronze]

so i can do that right

is it easy?

[brisk tide]

i would say it's easy, it's just time consuming

[south bronze]

like. i see on yt ppl doing it. its like on the side next to the window

[brisk tide]

i'd probably get some cheap strips from ali express

[south bronze]

do you think it will make a difference

[brisk tide]

aesthetically? yes

[south bronze]

you know some cases like corsair have like. a space where you could put the rgb strips

[brisk tide]

the o11 evo should have spaces to do the same

[south bronze]

https://youtu.be/SjnX3S8nkwM?t=34

like this one

like dedicated space for it

[brisk tide]

i think it's just there to make the case wider but i see what you mean

[south bronze]

yea

[south bronze]

and how big is the 011d

[brisk tide]

tbh you can google this

?google o11d evo specs

[sage widget]

Google result for o11d evo specs

[south bronze]

i cant find it on pc part picker lol

[brisk tide]

it's in the pcpp list lol
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4cPQzy/lian-li-o11-dynamic-evo-atx-mid-tower-case-pc-o11dew

[south bronze]

wait what

i still cant see it am i stupid?

[brisk tide]

akshdkashds WHAAA

[south bronze]

?

[brisk tide]

i...just linked it

[south bronze]

i checked the link tho...

[brisk tide]

shows me this

looks like the case to me

[south bronze]

i got that

where did it say the size tho

[brisk tide]

oh

[south bronze]

oh

[brisk tide]

lian li's website

[south bronze]

lol

yes

its less than 30cm?

width

wtf

das tiny

[brisk tide]

i would've thought a case like it would be wider

[south bronze]

?

[brisk tide]

the o11 has the PSU on the side, as you know

plus the cables and HDD slots

[south bronze]

yes

yes

[brisk tide]

which makes it wider than the average case

[south bronze]

so 28.5cm is a lot

compared to others

[brisk tide]

yeah, my P400A is 21 cm wide

[south bronze]

oh so its large compared to others

i just dont know whats normal

okay

[brisk tide]

story of my life

[south bronze]

same

welp

now i have a feeling pc is tiny

wait no 28.5cm is nothing

[brisk tide]

lol

[south bronze]

thats bull shit

wait

no way

thats not correct

nitro

I THOUHGHT THE AIO IS 360MM

NO WAY THE WHOLE PC IS 285

wait im so confused

[brisk tide]

it is, the case is 40+ cm long

[south bronze]

wait what

[brisk tide]

465mm to be exact

[south bronze]

long is from left to right, right to left

wait depth is left to right?

[brisk tide]

depth

[south bronze]

i thought its from close to further

wat

am i stupid?

[brisk tide]

[south bronze]

width is 28.5cm

so from left to right

wait wha...

[brisk tide]

@fierce jetty @rich hollow help me out here

[south bronze]

am i just stupid?

[fierce jetty]

Whatcha need?

[south bronze]

which is depth and which is width

isnt width from left to right

[fierce jetty]

Depth = how deep something is, how far back it goes, how thick it is basically

[south bronze]

yea exactly

so the width is tiny no?

it can fit a 422mm gpu in it

??????????????????

[rich hollow]

?

[brisk tide]

this is length/depth

[fierce jetty]

GPU length is a function of depth, not width

[south bronze]

oh

[rich hollow]

Why have I been summoned

[south bronze]

oh ic

[fierce jetty]

Nadaman needed a math major and a local currency expert

[south bronze]

and an english major

[brisk tide]

are you trying to roast me lol

[south bronze]

so this diagram is correct right

[south bronze]

no im roasting me

[rich hollow]

Oooh 011D Evo

[south bronze]

im not an english major

[south bronze]

yes. ITS TINY ISNT IT?

ITS LIKE 30CM?

[brisk tide]

it's not

[fierce jetty]

Yes

[rich hollow]

Stop messing around

[south bronze]

you saying its not tiny or its not 30cm

[brisk tide]

it's not tiny, that's what i'm saying

[fierce jetty]

Let me give a more visual illustration

[south bronze]

...

yes plz

[rich hollow]

300mm long cases are tiny. 011D Evo is NOT tiny

[south bronze]

...

really

ok wow

[rich hollow]

Better picture

[south bronze]

D not O

[rich hollow]

Are you trolling at this point

[south bronze]

no im not

im ded serious

im actually confused

[rich hollow]

Depth is where that W is

[south bronze]

...

OH YEA CUZ U GUYS DONT PUT YOUR PC LIKE THE WAY I WANT TO

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

im so stupid...

[south bronze]

right? @brisk tide

[brisk tide]

i guess?

[south bronze]

ah

[rich hollow]

This is a small case

[south bronze]

thats tiny

[brisk tide]

that's a small image

[south bronze]

oh so depth is my width

[brisk tide]

yes

[south bronze]

and width is my depth

ahhhhhh

thats why

i was like, the window is smaller than my side panel

w h a t

[brisk tide]

let's go back to the PC build already, this discussion is silly

[south bronze]

sorry my fault

im just stupid

[brisk tide]

the microphone is bundled with an interface, which has the volume controls and XLR connector to connect it to a computer

[south bronze]

okay...

headphones -> amp -> pc?

[rich hollow]

If you like the 011D but want something smaller. Look no further than 011D mini and 011 air mini

[brisk tide]

the jds atom is a dedicated audio amplifier, it will supply more power to your headphones making them sound much better and will have better audio quality than just the PC's audio

[brisk tide]

yep, that's how it goes

[south bronze]

nah its okay. i need something to fill empty space

[south bronze]

can i connect speakers to them or no

[brisk tide]

you can connect speakers to them

[south bronze]

oh so i can connect these speakers to them and they will sound really good?

[brisk tide]

if you had really high end speakers, you would need to connect an amp anyway (cheap speakers such as creative pebbles don't need them)

[south bronze]

so i dont connect them

lol

and any rgb lights that you recommend for my table and the back of my monitor for lights

[brisk tide]

what i would do is this

headphones > amp > usb-c audio dongle > PC (this is a good one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Headphone-Amplifier-Interface-Decoding-Earphone/dp/B0B184869X/)

and then speakers > pc (or speakers > monitor > pc)

[south bronze]

oh

[brisk tide]

like rgb strips? these are fine: https://www.amazon.co.uk/WOANWAY-Backlights-Lighting-Dimmable-Dynamic/dp/B08P1HVJ1H

i just picked what was cheap lol

[south bronze]

er. so speakers > pc and not speakers > amp > pc

[brisk tide]

yeah the speakers don't need the amp's power really

[south bronze]

yea

[south bronze]

lmao

literraly any works lol

im sure

[brisk tide]

yeah

[brisk tide]

@south bronze monitor works for the speakers too btw

i just realized that

[south bronze]

oh are they any good tho

like. for general use

[brisk tide]

what i mean is that you can plug speakers into the monitor

[south bronze]

not games

[south bronze]

oh so i need speakers if i wanna hear

[brisk tide]

yeah lol, the G70A doesn't come with speakers

[south bronze]

ah ok

[brisk tide]

but monitor speakers sound like shit anyway

they would not be good for watching youtube, much less an actual TV show/movie or playing a game

[south bronze]

ok

so connect em anyways

you know moniter arms

are they like. a place where cables go through them

cuz if not

isnt hard to make it look like there arent much cables if the monitor is levatating and i need to connect a hdmi cable

[brisk tide]

they usually do yes

but you will probably need a long cable

[south bronze]

should i buy one?

[brisk tide]

i would use what comes with the monitor first, and then buy a longer cable if it can't be routed well

[south bronze]

https://www.atumtek.com/products/desk-monitor-mount-adjustable-gas-spring-computer-arm?spm=..collection_3c5a932a-4af9-4c48-9c0e-960f134348f7.collection_detail_1.2&spm_prev=..index.header_1.1

does this hav it

[brisk tide]

yes

[south bronze]

oh it does

[south bronze]

is it possible to connect kbm to monitor and will it work

[brisk tide]

yes

[south bronze]

oh i see

[south bronze]

but headphones i must put through amp

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Headphone-Amplifier-Interface-Decoding-Earphone/dp/B0B184869X/)?th=1

[brisk tide]

yep

[south bronze]

wat do this do tho

[brisk tide]

plugs into PC, gives you a headphone jack. should have a bit better sound quality than what's on the PC

you can also use it on your phone for wired headphones

[south bronze]

wait so. my pc has no headphone jack

[brisk tide]

no, the motherboard has audio jacks

[south bronze]

oh

but i thought i use headphones through amp anyyways

[brisk tide]

yeah, and the amp plugs into the computer

[south bronze]

and the amp is 3.5mm?

when it connects to pc

[brisk tide]

i put in an RCA to 3.5mm cable in the list

so yeah

[south bronze]

ahhhhhhhhhh. so. headphones = 3.5mm -> amp which i use the adapter so 3.5mm -> Rca -> amp which comes out as?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jbFXsY/amazonbasics-35mm-to-2-male-rca-adapter-cable-8-feet

this right

[brisk tide]

well it's
headphones -> amp -> RCA -> 3.5mm -> audio dongle -> PC

[brisk tide]

yup that's the one

it was cheap basically

[south bronze]

OH I SEE

SO MY HEAPHONES ARE 3.5MM. IT GOES into the amp as 3.5mm. then it comes out as Rca which i use an adapter to 3.5mm and i use audio dongle to usb c

into the pc

[brisk tide]

yep

[south bronze]

where usbc tho. the side where the hdmi comes out right

[brisk tide]

it's on the back of the motherboard

[brisk tide]

this

[south bronze]

yes yes

do i need to touch the amp btw

like do i need to fiddle witth it

[brisk tide]

the amp has volume controls

[south bronze]

ah

i cant just use normal volume on windows?

it has to be the amp volume controls

[brisk tide]

you can use either

the amp control is easier to reach

[south bronze]

unless i put it somewhere far away

okie

ill think about the mesh thing too

might stick to glass idk ill think abt it

wait that just means i need to buy more fans right

[brisk tide]

since the PC is being put in a place where the front isn't seen, front mesh makes the most sense imo

[south bronze]

okie

[brisk tide]

side intake won't be helpful since it's against the wall

[south bronze]

wait is it?

[brisk tide]

it seemed like it

[south bronze]

i meant the back panel faces the wall

if you know what i mean

the fans on the side will face the left

cuz inverted

[brisk tide]

yeah

[south bronze]

^

[south bronze]

ill stick to mesh anyways

[south bronze]

wait mesh means that their wil be no fans there right

[brisk tide]

i put fans in the list

[south bronze]

yes

9

including the aio

[brisk tide]

yep

[south bronze]

oh

am actively stupid

english major moments

[brisk tide]

3 on the front mesh panel, 3 on the bottom, and the AIO on the top

[south bronze]

i need 1 extra for one on the right

[brisk tide]

the one extra fan isn't really needed

[south bronze]

idk. aesthetics moments lel

[brisk tide]

you can use this as the rear fan https://www.idealo.co.uk/compare/201884298/arctic-p12-pwm-pst-a-rgb-white.html

[south bronze]

any accesories that are useful for cable manage or no

[south bronze]

y dont i just get another lian li

[brisk tide]

a lot of the useful thing will come with the case

[brisk tide]

the ST120 is annoyingly not sold as a singular fan

[south bronze]

oh i see

[brisk tide]

so i picked out an arctic p12

[south bronze]

oh i meant cable manage on the table

like kbm, headphones, the amp thing

[brisk tide]

something like this? https://www.amazon.com/EVEO-J-Channel-Cable-Raceway/dp/B08DG2LY5B

[south bronze]

oh

i think thats fine

cuz i cant see the cables at the back

i have like a alex draw under my table and i cant see any cables

oh are there like screw driver things that i need

i hav non

pfft

[brisk tide]

you don't have a screw driver?

[south bronze]

NOPE

lmao

i do but its for keyboards

and its electric but its rlly weak

cant screw things tight

[brisk tide]

eh it's fine tbh

[south bronze]

no i mean. its rlly shit

i can barely spin shit. like my hands do better

[brisk tide]

then use hands

[south bronze]

...

[brisk tide]

oh wait it was a joke lol

[south bronze]

lol#

ik ik

[brisk tide]

is it just really small

[south bronze]

yes

very

smaller than my hnand

[brisk tide]

it'd be good for the M.2 SSD but yeah go on amazon and buy a cheap & big one then

[south bronze]

just phillips head screw drivers

[brisk tide]

yep

[south bronze]

ok

this mic is like rlly good right

[brisk tide]

yep

[south bronze]

oh btw btw anyy good wireless mouse

low latency or is wired just better

and do i need a windows key

[brisk tide]

some wired mice like the v8k have better latency/response time technically

but you probably won't notice the difference

you can get the viper ultimate for 60 pounds on amazon if you want something wireless

[south bronze]

is the logitech one good

cuz idk i dont like wires lmao

[brisk tide]

g pro x superlight? it's fine

viper ultimate is wireless btw

[south bronze]

ok

[brisk tide]

it's the 8k that's wired only

[south bronze]

ok

will a rgb pin spliter help

seems more easy than connecting all the fans to a seperate rgb header where i could just put one in

[brisk tide]

the fans daisy chain

so connecting the fans to each other means they use one rgb header

[south bronze]

OOOOOOOOH THATS GREAT

[south bronze]

do i need a windows key

[rich hollow]

Not required

[south bronze]

its not?

[rich hollow]

You don't need a windows key to use windows

[south bronze]

wa does i tdo

[rich hollow]

It unlocks some customisation options and removes a watermark in the corner

[south bronze]

what customisation can i do

[rich hollow]

On pro and above it also unlocks all the features that the versions above home give

I cannot remember sorry

[south bronze]

...?

idk lol

[rich hollow]

It is nice to get rid of the watermark that is constantly in the corner

[south bronze]

mhm

how much for 1

[rich hollow]

£120

[south bronze]

...

cheaper opttionms?

[rich hollow]

Not activating windows

[south bronze]

eh...

[south bronze]

whatts the name of the good fans with rgb on rim and blade

and do i need a fanhub or does lian li st 120 come wih one

and how hard is it to cable manage

i cant think of many cables i need to manage

hdmi to monitor. power for my monitor and pc. keyboard and the amp. mic. what else

[flat hawk]

looks like a cozy place

[south bronze]

hahaa thx

no idea how threads work so no idea how u got in but welcm

[flat hawk]

the one concern i would have tho is if its facing the door people can immedietly look at what your doing

[flat hawk]

its public for anyone

[south bronze]

whats wrong with that?

and no its not facing the door. the door is to my left. so if you look at my room, its on the left

im getting isp panel so they can see anyways

[flat hawk]

I mean me personally I dont want my parents look at what i do 👀

anyways

[south bronze]

oh im fine lol

your good with pc's right

[flat hawk]

Like with physical components not so much but I do no a little past the basic stuff, I could increase my knowledge tho, on stuff like software and network troubleshooting yes i do know a lot

[south bronze]

ok

[brisk tide]

@karmic ivy thread

[karmic ivy]

okie

Ignore the copious amounts of dust @south bronze

[south bronze]

o

[karmic ivy]

That’s what the setup would be like

[south bronze]

yea. well. messy lol

cable wise

[brisk tide]

[south bronze]

copium

lol

[south bronze]

so any way around it?

[karmic ivy]

around having front and back cables? That’s a pretty standard thing among audio interfaces

[south bronze]

and how will i route things if i use an amp. curious

[south bronze]

ah ic

[karmic ivy]

Whether you can justify spending ~$450 more just to not have that is up to you

Or whatever the huge price diff is in UK

[south bronze]

wait what

[karmic ivy]

That's the price diff between GoXLR and M-Track Solo

[south bronze]

its £120

like $170

not 450

[karmic ivy]

Meta

[south bronze]

goxlr mini is £150

[karmic ivy]

The mini, yes

[south bronze]

m track solo is 30

oh

i want mini lol

[karmic ivy]

I thought you were getting the big one

[south bronze]

and full goxlr is 200-250

[south bronze]

no. is mini worth it or no

or m track solo and amp for same price is better

[karmic ivy]

You're getting an MPM1000 aren't you?

[south bronze]

yes

good right

[karmic ivy]

I'd just get the M-Track Solo and an amp

[brisk tide]

it actually does come with a fan hub

[south bronze]

oooooooh sick

[south bronze]

ok so thats superior

so. can you explain wha the m track solo is

is it a mixer or audio interface or

what is it

[karmic ivy]

an audio interface

[south bronze]

ok

if i get an amp

is tthere any features on he audio interface i dont need

and mixer and audio interface difference...?

[karmic ivy]

There's a bit of a difference visually

[south bronze]

oh i see

goxlr is what

audio interface?

[karmic ivy]

An Audio Interface is what you use to get audio from your mic and instruments into a format your PC can understand

[south bronze]

ok

[karmic ivy]

a Mixer helps you take that audio and change it on the fly

[south bronze]

oooooh ok

amp is bettter sound on headphone

big difference if i get good headphones right

[karmic ivy]

Yes

[south bronze]

ok

[karmic ivy]

Getting a good pair of headphones without an amp can suck

[south bronze]

oki

so

there is no such audio interface. where all the cables are faced the back

[karmic ivy]

There probably are a few

[south bronze]

there are?

[karmic ivy]

But it's extremely common for it to be in one way and out the other

[south bronze]

can they be good or bad tho if i get an amp

[south bronze]

oh cuzz it looks kinda messy

[karmic ivy]

You're confusing your audio interface with your headphone amp

they're separate things

[south bronze]

no i mean

can an audio interface be good or bad

[karmic ivy]

Yes

[south bronze]

how

[karmic ivy]

Shit preamps, shit ADCs, shit parts

[south bronze]

but

if i get amp

preamp is no deal

is it?

[karmic ivy]

Preamp for your mic

[south bronze]

oh

thats a thing

okay

[karmic ivy]

Yeah, it's probably one of the biggest things that matter

[south bronze]

OK LOL

is it possible to

stick the audio interface

upside down on the bottom of my table

[karmic ivy]

Sure

[south bronze]

with double sided tape

[karmic ivy]

That's what I used to do

[south bronze]

y not anymore

[karmic ivy]

Not with double sided tape, but I don't see why not

[south bronze]

with wat did u use