Freezer? I barely know 'er!

[blazing sage]

@balmy ibex hi

[solar pollen]

okay lets start over

[quasi temple]

Is it finally helping time

[balmy ibex]

lord i need this 😂

[solar pollen]

you can get a 6950xt for 1100

[outer iron]

i'd just go with the last nadaman list tbf

[solar pollen]

IDK that guy insisted on the more expensive one

[balmy ibex]

mad heads arguing whats good or whats bad im just like

[blazing sage]

this is a mood tbh

[paper fable]

Don’t opt for an Nvidia GPU for NVENC, it ain’t necessary, even if they are streaming

[solar pollen]

welcome to the hobby

[balmy ibex]

@blazing sagewhts ur updated list

[balmy ibex]

😂 😂 😂

[paper fable]

They can x264 or Quicksync their way to streaming

[blazing sage]

the list that the devil made is a bit nicer

[balmy ibex]

can u guys both send the links here

[blazing sage]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MNphKp

[solar pollen]

mine lacks monitors though

[balmy ibex]

monitors can wait

cus i have these 2 rn

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2719dgf/apd/210-arcj/monitors-monitor-accessories

[solar pollen]

in that case; https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MNphKp

[blazing sage]

that's already a nice monitor

tbh the 27GN800-B would be a downgrade

[balmy ibex]

u dont think i need an ugrade right

[solar pollen]

IDK why he's obsessed with the nitro pure + G6

[balmy ibex]

monitor wise

[blazing sage]

since you have two monitors, how about we fit an extra one

[balmy ibex]

maybe a middle one right @blazing sage

[blazing sage]

ye middle one

[balmy ibex]

i prefer vesa tho so i can hook it alll up

[blazing sage]

basically all the good monitors have VESA mounts anyway

[balmy ibex]

ah ok ok

[solar pollen]

even my TV sized monitor has a vesa mount

[paper fable]

Nadaman, your monitor has VESA right?

[balmy ibex]

i also need a triple mount vesa i guess

[blazing sage]

yes

[paper fable]

Wait what

Who was the sussy monitor

[blazing sage]

the dell

but i bought a cheap adapter for it

[paper fable]

Smh, nvm then

[blazing sage]

i'm not sure if the 6950 XT is really worth it over the 6900 XT here, but the budget is high enough to say "ah fuck it i'll buy it anyway"
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7x9Kcb (edited in an A1000G PSU)

oh i could put a 1000W PSU

[solar pollen]

A1000G is a good bet

[balmy ibex]

u really like that monitor huh i might go with that

will it make my set up look weird

[blazing sage]

i wonder how it compares to the 1000W G6

[balmy ibex]

like i shuld turn my left/right monitors in right

[solar pollen]

its a bigger uplift than the 6750xt was

[paper fable]

M27Q X based as fuck

[solar pollen]

for starters its a better platform

Seasonic Focus vs CWT CSZ

[paper fable]

G6 is Focus?

What the fuck

[solar pollen]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-supernova-g6-1000-w/3.html

its modified though

[blazing sage]

aris, my beloved

[solar pollen]

the G7 is what I'm interested in

Apparently its FSP

[paper fable]

Highly modified focus it seems

Focus. Without the pant shitting

[solar pollen]

When EVGA makes a better focus than Seasonic

[balmy ibex]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C2C48d/placeholder

what is this anyways @blazing sage

[blazing sage]

RAM/SSD Bundle

[solar pollen]

part bundle

[balmy ibex]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2DqhKp what u think

how is this one guys

[solar pollen]

massive downgrade

[balmy ibex]

value wise tho?

[solar pollen]

that board doesn't do DDR4 good, massive downgrade on the PSU end

[balmy ibex]

this what someone said about the build

[solar pollen]

bapo

their advice has always been trash

@blazing sage lmao

@astral needle we're helping him in here

[balmy ibex]

you mind if i invite the guy who had opinion on build

[solar pollen]

sure

I don't mind the entertainment

[balmy ibex]

how do. i inv him here this chat

[solar pollen]

just ping him

[balmy ibex]

wait no

[solar pollen]

kek

[balmy ibex]

@jade oxide

there we go

just jay been helping me and gave me this build

JustJay#1918

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7x9Kcb vs https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2DqhKp

[jade oxide]

OCing benefits really aren’t worthwhile as of now, 6950xt has worse encoding and is overpriced (gigabyte 6900xt is $760) DDR5 is self explanatory, horrible value.

rest of the list is very poor

tweaked my list, here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qpNvbK

[solar pollen]

Locked SA voltages limit ram choice significantly
Xe Quicksync is better encoder than Nvenc

DDR5 + SSD was a better value combo than separate decent DDR4 + SSD

that DDR5 kit is also Hynix M-die, currently the best Hynix IC

Fractal Torrent is one of the best cases on the market for aircooling

MSI A1000G is an amazing PSU for the money considering its impressive performance for a new platform (CWT CSZ)

[quasi temple]

CWT CSZ?

[solar pollen]

6950xt is also the fastest card on the market for the resolution he plans to play at

[solar pollen]

PSU platform the A1000G is based on

[quasi temple]

Ah ok

[solar pollen]

its also what the new NZXT PSU is based on, at least the 1000w

[quasi temple]

So much power, lol

[balmy ibex]

wait wait so what we leaning towards parts wise lol anything change

i wanna buy it all this week

[solar pollen]

keep with the first list

multiple of us worked over that list

[quasi temple]

@solar pollen what's the first list

[balmy ibex]

this one ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7x9Kcb

[solar pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7x9Kcb

the 2nd one is minmaxing for the sake of minmaxing

BAPO minmaxing is aids

[quasi temple]

Not bad

[balmy ibex]

these at 0.00

[quasi temple]

Check the end

[solar pollen]

click the link at the bottom

[balmy ibex]

but i think it’ll be over my budget cus they’re like $300 each

[balmy ibex]

nvm i’m dumb

[paper fable]

$400 for 2TB of SSD and 32GB of decent DDR5 RAM

Not bad

[solar pollen]

decent, its got the best IC for DDR5 lmao

[paper fable]

Avoids the whole DDR4 bullshit altogether

[quasi temple]

Bundle deals are pretty decent at times

[paper fable]

I guess I should say decent bin out of box

[solar pollen]

outside of those G.skill ultra low latency kits, these are amazing

[paper fable]

Actually wait 6000C38?

[solar pollen]

yes

[paper fable]

[solar pollen]

guaranteed Hynix M-die

[balmy ibex]

the monitor paired with my https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2719dgf/apd/210-arcj/monitors-monitor-accessories

i’ll be able to have 3x monitors ?

dp cord right

[solar pollen]

yeah

[balmy ibex]

that monitor u recommended mad good right also

can u recommend like a vesa 3x monitor holder lol i went on amazon

there’s like 40 of these

[quasi temple]

I would get a better main monitor but I'm saving for an RV :(

[balmy ibex]

RV as in the vehicle ??

[quasi temple]

Yes

[balmy ibex]

wow nice lol

[balmy ibex]

@solar pollen

[quasi temple]

Going to find a cheap used one

[solar pollen]

From experience go 3 separate ones

unless you have 3 of the exact same monitors

[balmy ibex]

won’t it look bad ? @solar pollen

[balmy ibex]

can u show me what u mean 😮

[solar pollen]

the VESA mount locations are different from monitor to monitor

[balmy ibex]

damn so should i get 3 of the same ones

😂

[solar pollen]

lmao

it would be the most aesthetically pleasing

[balmy ibex]

but if they’re all 27’’ why wouldn’t it work?

[solar pollen]

because some aren't dead center

[balmy ibex]

fkkkk

[solar pollen]

sometimes its a little bit higher, a little bit lower etc

[balmy ibex]

i already got a dual one rn

fuck

[solar pollen]

it should be mostly fine

they just won't line up exactly

if you're gaming on one monitor it doesn't matter

[balmy ibex]

i want it to look like this

but ik the middle one gonna be so off

fak

[solar pollen]

honestly, you might actually be fine

[balmy ibex]

i need a vesa 3x holder tho what u got for me @solar pollen

lowkey i’d i get stuck how to set it up

[solar pollen]

https://www.amazon.com/Triple-Monitor-Stand-Articulating-Aluminum/dp/B084RF63FK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1KKJB5BOWMNFK&keywords=triple+monitor+mount&qid=1656447117&sprefix=triple+monitor+mou%2Caps%2C319&sr=8-3

[blazing sage]

did you not see...the bundle??

it costs similarly to getting b-die ddr4 with a higher end 2tb ssd

[balmy ibex]

“I also recomend you not use K version, that has integrated graphics which you also dont need” what this mean boss @blazing sage

what he talking about

lol

[blazing sage]

if you get an intel CPU without an F in the name, it comes with built in UHD 770 graphics

[balmy ibex]

so should i change anything or lol

[blazing sage]

UHD 730 for the 12400, but that's unrelated

it's a great quality of life feature to have if you want extra video outputs or need to troubleshoot your GPU. plus it's good at streaming due to quicksync

[paper fable]

The reason you’re not getting an NVIDIA GPU is because you should opt for something with an iGPU

[blazing sage]

^

[paper fable]

That iGPU is gonna help a lot for streaming and editing

[blazing sage]

basically, don't bother getting an F chip at this budget. the price saving isn't worth it

it would be a drop in the bucket lol

[balmy ibex]

“I would reccomend u use ddr4 motherboard because ddr5 is still expensive and ddr5 is still in beginning phase”

[blazing sage]

he obviously didn't see the bundle

lol

[paper fable]

There’s a bundle that makes it cost effective

[solar pollen]

the bundle makes it rather cost effective

[blazing sage]

also, since you can get the 12700K for $290, getting the 12700F is pointless

these idiots clearly cannot read

wait a minute, i don't see the 50 dollar coupon rip

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/specialofferallprocessors.aspx?rd=1

well with this it would make it $315, which costs the same as the 12700F

[balmy ibex]

@gilded thistle

[blazing sage]

"shitty cpu fan" @gilded thistle
ah yes, one of the highest end CPU coolers on the market is now shitty

[paper fable]

I’d like to point out the AK620 is better than some 240mm AIOs

More than enough for a locked, and even unlocked 12700

[blazing sage]

what's the fucking point of getting an F chip if it costs the same as a non-F chip????

are these bapo fuckers blind??

[solar pollen]

its bapo

what'd you expect

[balmy ibex]

this one @gilded thistle

[gilded thistle]

yes All cpu fan is shitty compared to Liquid cooling.

[gilded thistle]

also I find your ignorance quite amusing ...

[blazing sage]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/deepcool-ak620-dual-tower-cpu-cooler/

[gilded thistle]

The K chip has integrated graphics. WTF is the point of getting a K chip if you already have a 1000$ graphics card sitting on the list

[blazing sage]

quicksync

[solar pollen]

because price wise its identical to the 12700

especially with the microcenter coupon

[solar pollen]

I do find you lack of faith disturbing

[paper fable]

I love the Hobbit

[gilded thistle]

faith in pc building?

[paper fable]

I love how someone can be so adamant and wrong at the same time

[solar pollen]

I know right

[paper fable]

So. Let me break it down super quick, so we’re all on the same page

[solar pollen]

he never explained his reasoning either

[gilded thistle]

be more specific

[paper fable]

He has a non-F CPU because Intel IGPs have Quicksync, which works as an encoder and as a hardware accelerator, perfect for streaming and video editing

[blazing sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ovRtmTxjuE

[paper fable]

As for the CPU cooler, that AK620 beats some AIOs

[solar pollen]

not to mention the Xe Quicksync encoder beats Nvenc

[paper fable]

It does, and it still manages to be quite efficient

I still have yet to see how it handles dynamic range and very fast motion, but it’s definitely a replacement

Nevertheless, I highly recommend you actually know what you’re talking about before you make a claim

[gilded thistle]

You don't need it when you have a 1000 $ graphics card

[paper fable]

What the fuck are you talking about

[blazing sage]

did you not look at the video?

[gilded thistle]

are you the super smart people who actually reccomended ddr5

[paper fable]

He doesn’t need a damn 3080 when he has the iGPU

[solar pollen]

hey man, can I borrow your crack, that must be some good shit

[paper fable]

Are you the dumbass that didn’t even look at how cost effective DDR5 was

He can get a 6900XT or even a 6950XT for the raster performance

[blazing sage]

well yes, did you not see the bundle?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C2C48d/placeholder

[paper fable]

And Quicksync for productivity

[solar pollen]

ah yes, because when top tier DDR5 and a great NVME is cheaper as a bundle than getting decent DDR4 and that ssd

[gilded thistle]

@paper fable ARE YOU THE DUMB ASS WHO believes everything he sees oin youtube without any self thought?

DDR4 is already tested and trialed for ages

[blazing sage]

what's wrong with the video? are you a video editor?

[solar pollen]

I've yet to see you provide evidence to the contrary

[paper fable]

This is my job LMAO

This is what I do for a fucking living

[gilded thistle]

ok cool and I have others doing their job saying ur bs

[solar pollen]

also yeah, stain here actually reviews this shit

[paper fable]

You cannot possibly tell me that you know more about my field of work than I do

[solar pollen]

he's the most qualified out of all us here

[gilded thistle]

@paper fable let me know when youwhen you get that arrogant head out ur butt

[blazing sage]

so are you a video editor/streamer, or no?

answer the question

[gilded thistle]

and tell me when you are good at your job

literally using fallacies @blazing sage

get gud

[paper fable]

Let me know when you know what the fuck you are talking about

[blazing sage]

who the fuck is that

[solar pollen]

so you're just going to attack people rather than stating your points and backing them up with evidence?

[blazing sage]

you just pinged some random dude lol

[blazing sage]

classic discord child

[gilded thistle]

already edited it dumb fuck

[gilded thistle]

sounds like u

[blazing sage]

so you aren't a streamer/video editor?

[gilded thistle]

do I need to be?

[paper fable]

Okay. So first things first, let’s stop the arguing and get back to the build

[gilded thistle]

is that one of the qualifications ?

[solar pollen]

<@&80773196516700160> user is attacking other users and not contributing to build help in any capacity

[blazing sage]

@gilded thistle disprove this video

[gloomy rover]

Christ

[gilded thistle]

and are you the smart people who thought temperature is not a crutial issie in pc building?

[solar pollen]

AK620 can cool a 12900k

[gilded thistle]

Mod read <@&80773196516700160>

[solar pollen]

hell techpowerup was cooling theirs with a U12A

[gilded thistle]

they are being quite the intellectuals

[paper fable]

Okay. So take a chill pill. Back to the issue at hand

[solar pollen]

I'm just blocking and moving on

[gilded thistle]

If you want to make a doubloe standard and suck each other off you might as well stop now

pathetic

[paper fable]

If you want to help, do it

Explain your reasoning

[solar pollen]

he obviously won't

[paper fable]

What reason is there to not get an iGPU

[solar pollen]

they tend to go away if ignored

[serene cobalt]

so do we mute everyone in the thread or what ?

[past solar]

wtf is this bullshit?

[paper fable]

Intel’s Quicksync outperforms NVIDIA’s NVENC, which is extremely useful for both streaming and video editing. Both things he said he wants to do

[past solar]

help or GTFO period

[gilded thistle]

Thanks

[paper fable]

There is zero reason to go for an Nvidia GPU over an AMD GPU when AMD GPUs scale better at 4K

[gilded thistle]

I am helping my buddy Freeze and these guys just started insulting me then accusing me of insulting them

[solar pollen]

you got that part mixed

[paper fable]

Fuck

AMD GPUs scale better at 1440p

[solar pollen]

but yes the 6950xt is a much better GPU at 1440p than a 3080 is

[paper fable]

Whatever the AMD GPU won’t do in productivity performance, the Quicksync built into the IGP does

So it maximizes gaming performance while maximizing productivity performance

[smoky wren]

Wait, since when did QuickSync outperform NVENC?

[paper fable]

For video editing, a long time

[solar pollen]

Since the 11500

[paper fable]

For streaming, with the inclusion of 12th Gen

[smoky wren]

Any good sources on this?

[paper fable]

UHD750 still was iffy on streaming, 770 completely changed how it’s done

[solar pollen]

Quicksync is also more versatile as it supports a wider array of standards

[solar pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ovRtmTxjuE

[paper fable]

https://youtu.be/_N6wKMg6m7I this too

Towards the end-ish iirc

[devout stream]

it's pretty simple

hardware encoding always beats software encoding

after that, it depends what you're doing

[paper fable]

This is hardware vs. hardware

[devout stream]

if you're trying to encode a stream with the same device pumping out video, it's going to go slower

[smoky wren]

So Intel just has a better video encoder in their iGPUs than Nvidia does in their high end GPUs?

[solar pollen]

yes

[paper fable]

Yes

[smoky wren]

welp

[devout stream]

Yep

It makes sense though

[paper fable]

NVENC still rocks, Quicksync is just scary as hell

[devout stream]

the two devices are purpose built for different things

[smoky wren]

I heard how the newer Nvidia cards had much better encoders, didn't realize Intel was still better

[paper fable]

Intel targets productivity first and foremost, then gaming

[devout stream]

Well I mean

video encoding isn't largely parallelizable

[solar pollen]

They still have the same encoder as Turing

[paper fable]

Newer Nvidia cards since Pascal all use a similar-ish performance encoder

[smoky wren]

Meanwhile me on a 1080

[paper fable]

Ampere is better than Turing, but not by anything you’ll notice

[devout stream]

NVENC is going to use just a fraction of the GPU's power

[solar pollen]

Turing NVENC was what made hardware encoding viable for streaming

[devout stream]

because it can't use more for that

[paper fable]

NVENC shouldn’t use any of the GPU’s power, since it’s entirely separate from the compute die

[solar pollen]

but Intel improved their quicksync implementation significantly with the Xe based UHD 770

[smoky wren]

I guess that explains why video editing software has better QuickSync support than NVENC

[balmy ibex]

so did we find middle ground mb i’m at work

[solar pollen]

oh no that part was intel money

[balmy ibex]

so same build still nothing changed ?

[smoky wren]

oh ok so I wasn't wrong on that at least

[paper fable]

Quicksync on UHD630/730/750 is still nice, but 770 just decided to go brrrrrr

[devout stream]

Just to be clear, an Nvidia GPU would absolutely dominate in things like Blender where you're rendering 3d objects or material simulations

[paper fable]

I did some streaming on 730 to test, and it wasn’t too bad

[devout stream]

just not video encoding

[trail glacier]

@smoky wren from testing myself, Intel hd630 vs a 2080 on highest quality quicksync vs nvenc movie conversions left the nvenc one 200MB smaller but the same visuals for a 2GB movie

Video encoding and decoding is really the only benefits apart from no GPU video acceleration that Intel hd has

[devout stream]

That's not a speed thing though that's encoding settings

[trail glacier]

Ah right.

[devout stream]

If I set my x264 preset to VerySlow it's gonna look great but I'll see you in 5 days

[solar pollen]

its also a older implementation of quicksync

[balmy ibex]

thoughts

[blazing sage]

USB wifi adapters are dogshit compared to PCIe ones

and ones that come on mobos

[gilded thistle]

He doesn't need it

its back up because hes too lazy to test the ethernet cable

[solar pollen]

thats not even a good kit of ddr4

[gilded thistle]

@solar pollen we are also considering price as he told me

[paper fable]

DDR4 is going to limit him to pretty much MSI motherboards

Because all other board manufacturers are either more expensive, not good, or Gigabyte with shit DDR4 traces

Going DDR5 completely avoids that, while still giving him access to a high end kit of RAM, and 2TB of a fantastic SSD

And still manages to be cost-effective

[gilded thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glj6puTshuA

[paper fable]

This video boils down to “DDR5 is expensive and doesn’t show a huge difference”

But he’s using a lower end kit of DDR5 than in this build, and the point about price doesn’t matter when it’s just as cost-effective

That would make sense 2 months ago when the bundle wasn’t a thing

[blazing sage]

that corsair DDR5 costs as much as the teamgroup bundle lool

(with SSD)

[paper fable]

He paid the same price for just the RAM, but this bundle has (better) RAM and a 2TB Z440

[gilded thistle]

link to bundle?

[blazing sage]

@gilded thistle

[gilded thistle]

pretty ok ddr5 bundle but could be cheaper even bought separately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU_w9fZvSso

[paper fable]

Cheapest similar performance kit of RAM + Cheapest similar performance SSD https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wf844s

Comes out more expensive

You also lose out the RGB aesthetic

[solar pollen]

I doubt you're getting M die for cheaper

[gloomy rover]

Man, DDR5 is getting cheaper quick

[blazing sage]

team group bundles make me cream

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jtc23/saved/TGqwYJ

[solar pollen]

https://www.techpowerup.com/294512/g-skill-announces-new-extreme-low-latency-ddr5-5600-cl28-memory-kit I want to see how much this costs once released

[paper fable]

5600 C28 gat damn

[balmy ibex]

ddr4 faster than ddr5?

[balmy ibex]

buying everything tonight @solar pollen @blazing sage 🫡

[blazing sage]

nice

I hope you enjoy the rig man

[blazing sage]

also, no

good DDR4 vs good DDR5, ddr5 wins

[solar pollen]

hell yeah mate

I can't wait to see what this looks like built

[paper fable]

Hope you enjoy it, man

[balmy ibex]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7x9Kcb

this one correct ? @blazing sage @solar pollen @paper fable

[paper fable]

Yup

[balmy ibex]

😮

[paper fable]

Are you trying to order everything off of Amazon?

Some of the things are cheaper elsewhere

[balmy ibex]

am i not supposed to 😮

[paper fable]

CPU and Motherboard from Microcenter

[balmy ibex]

and i go pick up right

[paper fable]

It shows what store it’s cheapest in

[paper fable]

Those two, yeah pickup

[balmy ibex]

shows me this

https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=Intel+Core+i7-12700K+3.6+GHz+12-Core+Processor

@paper fable which one is the MOBO i should pair it with

@solar pollen@blazing sage

[paper fable]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/644629/msi-z690-a-pro-wifi-ddr5-intel-lga-1700-atx-motherboard

Z690-A Pro WiFi DDR5

[balmy ibex]

0 new in stock

FAKK

@paper fable

[paper fable]

None in stock at your store?

[balmy ibex]

its cheaper on newegg tho

[paper fable]

You save a lot more buying from MC than Newegg though, since you get a cheaper CPU

https://www.microcenter.com/product/643438/asus-z690-p-prime-wifi-ddr5-intel-lga-1700-atx-motherboard how is this one?

[balmy ibex]

yeah that one is there

but isn't msi one better

[gloomy rover]

It would be if it was in stock

[balmy ibex]

what does open stock mean

[gloomy rover]

Open box?

[balmy ibex]

box*

yeah sorry

[gloomy rover]

It means someone opened the box when they got it, returned it for whatever reason, retailer or manufacturer fixed anything wrong with it and repackaged it with whatever the first owner left

It's why open box is usually way cheaper

[balmy ibex]

any risk in doing open box

[gloomy rover]

Likely to miss accessories that would normally come with it

[gloomy rover]

Not with Microcenter

[balmy ibex]

so i should proceed

[gloomy rover]

If anything is wrong with it, they'll accept the return

[warm pier]

Means you'd have to visually check if you wanted to make sure everything is there

anyway return policy 15 days no questions asked (in terms of whats missing ig)

[gloomy rover]

I'd say so

[balmy ibex]

why would there be different prices tho @gloomy rover

[gloomy rover]

Dunno

[balmy ibex]

should I do the $137 one

[gloomy rover]

It's best to ask Microcenter directly

[balmy ibex]

alright so should i reserve or just stop by next week

i dont think ill reserve ill just stop by

next week for these 2 parts

[gloomy rover]

Whichever you prefer

[balmy ibex]

alrighty

out of context but @blazing sage @solar pollen how the rbg look and aethestic 👀

wait hold up no reviews on this case 😂

Lian Li O11 Air Mini ATX Mid Tower Case hb this case boys

@blazing sage or the one u gave me better

ill buy it tomorrow since the boy asleep

[paper fable]

O11 Air Mini is fine

[balmy ibex]

@paper fable which one better or it dont matter

[paper fable]

Pretty sure everything should be compatible, so whatever you like more

[balmy ibex]

@paper fablePhanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case going to go with this one

[paper fable]

G360A is nice

[balmy ibex]

@paper fableWAIT R U U P

or @solar pollen

damn homie went invis rq 😂

[paper fable]

Yo

[balmy ibex]

am i supposed to get all 3 ?

or just the blue??

@paper fable

or all 3 circled

me confused

OHH just the custom

right?

[paper fable]

These are the same

You just get the custom

The custom covers storage and memory

[balmy ibex]

omggg hugeee

i was like wait im so confused lmao

that just saved me sm money

thank u

i was literally boutta get al l3 bruh

[paper fable]

Lmao

[balmy ibex]

😄

[paper fable]

Wait you bought the Z440 and the bundle?

And you got the motherboard and CPU off of Amazon, even though it was like, $100 more

[balmy ibex]

@paper fableno it was the bundle

they just separated it into 2 items

and yeah i didnt wanna make the trip to microcenter i figured i'd just cop it rn

[paper fable]

Ah

Well, hope everything gets here fine

Congrats, man

[balmy ibex]

tyy @paper fable

wait do i not have fans lol

gg

[paper fable]

G360A has a couple pre-installed

You don’t really need extras

[balmy ibex]

oh about thhat @paper fable

i actually got the corsair 5000d

😭

[paper fable]

Please tell me it’s the 5000D Airflow lmao

[balmy ibex]

ye @paper fable

[paper fable]

5000D Airflow has only 2 fans and iirc they’re not that good. But it should still be fine though I would probably grab like, a pack of Arctic P12s

[blazing sage]

you bought it for the new pc?

[balmy ibex]

yeah @blazing sage

also @blazing sage that monitor devil rec is that the one i should buy

i gotta buy fans too

[solar pollen]

The M27Q-X?

[blazing sage]

the M27Q-X? me and stain recced it too

it's a fantastic monitor

would be a great upgrade over your two Dell monitors, and the Dell monitors can be secondary

[balmy ibex]

ok yesssir

gonna buy that today as well as my 3 monitor stand plus fans

someone said artic earlier and i was lookin at lian li

https://a.co/d/2j6x9in

[blazing sage]

oh those fans are shite

don't get that one

[solar pollen]

there's bad, and then there's unifans

[blazing sage]

https://a.co/d/aD857qM

there are good RGB fans

https://a.co/d/hivOlOP

non-RGB fan pack

[balmy ibex]

if u had to choose because i’m prob gonna buy like 6 fans

should i go artic or lian

[blazing sage]

arctic

[balmy ibex]

and since my case should i do white then

oh u don’t like RGB fans

i see you

[blazing sage]

well did you want rgb fans? kek

[balmy ibex]

well tbh idk why not

but i value performance over rainbow

🤣

[balmy ibex]

why they bad

i’m new to pc so i like learning :p

[blazing sage]

the lian li unifans use 90mm blades despite having a 120mm frame

results in poor performance compared to most fans

[balmy ibex]

@blazing sagegot it

and how many do u recommend

[blazing sage]

three of the arctic fans on the front of the case, one in the back

[balmy ibex]

ok im boutta buy that monitor @solar pollen

js reading some reviews on it

[balmy ibex]

@blazing sage just out of curiosity why ain’t y’all recommend liquid cooling

@solar pollen @paper fable

[blazing sage]

air cooling is a bit cheaper and a lot of cases can't top mount CLC AIOs properly

so i often just go for the AK620 just for convenience

[balmy ibex]

oh i see

figured cus my gpu and cpu liquid is the way to go

but that’s ok i’m sure it’ll b good

[blazing sage]

if all else fails, you can easily return the ak620 to amazon and buy another cooler

[paper fable]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6p99/ these are pretty solid if you want performance and argb

[blazing sage]

there's a white version too, if you want it to match with your case
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MJDRYM9

[paper fable]

I didn’t even know they released P12 ARGB whites

[blazing sage]

silly stain

oh shit you should buy them then, you like white

/s

[paper fable]

I actually would

But $50 is $50

[blazing sage]

stain get intel upgrade so i can steal your mobo smh

[paper fable]

I need job smh

[blazing sage]

same

[balmy ibex]

will setting up everything be easy

assembling and software all that everything compatible righy

[gilded thistle]

The case bought is AIO friendly which is one reason why its better than other cases. Lots of space for liquid cooling options for the long run.

[blazing sage]

you could've recommended a G360A or something

not something that forces a fan purchase

for a bigger case that's 150-200 bucks, maybe a P500A

silent base 802

meshify 2

or lancool ii mesh c

[blazing sage]

this one is based

[balmy ibex]

any speaker recommendations too :3

nothing too crazy

[paper fable]

If it’s just budget speakers that don’t have to be like, audiophile level, Creative Pebbles work fine

[gilded thistle]

G360A would have limited space for future upgrade and that hardrive storage is taking up room in the case.

The airflow case provides enough room for multiple liquid cooling options in future without worrying too much about space

[blazing sage]

^

[paper fable]

G360A does 360 top and front tho

[blazing sage]

yeah

fuck MB511, literally outdated due to G360A

[paper fable]

He doesn’t even have an HDD in the list

He can still fit 2 more HDDs, 3 2.5” SSDs, and a couple M.2 SSDs if he really wanted more storage, so the whole hard drive thing doesn’t make sense

[gilded thistle]

Yup

[paper fable]

G360A would’ve made a ton more sense

[gilded thistle]

How so?

Literally a storage for hdd on the bottom thats not removable and wastinf space

[blazing sage]

the G360A isn't overpriced like the 5000D

[paper fable]

G360A
-Doesn’t require additional fans to be good
-Fits a 360mm rad on top and in front
-isn’t overpriced

[blazing sage]

what's he using that space on the bottom for

you can't bottom mount a rad on the 5000D anyway lol

[gilded thistle]

Battery and wiring

[blazing sage]

waT?

[paper fable]

His PSU? What does that have to do with anything

[blazing sage]

oh, hiding cables

[paper fable]

There’s spaces for routing cables

In the G360A

[blazing sage]

you already have a ton of space in the G360A to hide cables even with the HDD mount

[gilded thistle]

Yeah I guess each to their own then.

[paper fable]

I mean, yeah, it’s a bit too late now

[blazing sage]

he'd probably have to pay a fee to cancel the 5000D airflow shipment

[gilded thistle]

Why would he?

[blazing sage]

so eh, he'll enjoy it anyway

[gilded thistle]

Air flow better

[paper fable]

It’s worse, stock

[gilded thistle]

Yes as "stock"

[paper fable]

5000D Airflow ships with 2 dogshit fans

[gilded thistle]

I just pretend they are back up and they dont exist lmfao

[paper fable]

Big case, big mesh, little flow

[blazing sage]

imagine paying almost 200 bucks for a case that should realistically sell for about...$120?

[paper fable]

$120 sounds about right

If you don’t mind having to shove aftermarket fans in it, it’s a nice case

Just… paying too much to have to pay more in fans is kinda… cringe

[quasi temple]

[balmy ibex]

oh it shere

@blazing sage@solar pollenquick question why shouldn't i have got 3090 ti

👀

@paper fable

[warm pier]

because it has piss poor performance per dollar and is only a bit better than a 3080ti / 6900 xt

vs other GPUs like the rtx 3080 / 3080ti, 6900 xt

[balmy ibex]

are amd gpu fans bad @warm pier

[warm pier]

No?

Also nvidia / amd do not make fans

[blazing sage]

?brand

[whole basalt]

Always buy by product, not by brand.

Every brand has good and bad products.

For example, enjoy these reviews of a "trusted" brand making one of the worst PSUs on the market: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-650w-n1-power-supply-review

Followed by a lesser-known name producing a top quality one: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/super-flower-leadex-iii-650-w/

[blazing sage]

?whac

[whole basalt]

Try to be more specific with your question.

When you ask questions that aren't very specific or don't cover the full picture, it feels like playing whack-a-mole to answer. Please explain in detail exactly what you are trying to accomplish, and your full PC spec list if applicable.

[balmy ibex]

does this look right

[blazing sage]

why's the cooler like that

[balmy ibex]

idk what’s it supposed to look like

[blazing sage]

rotate it 90 degrees counter clockwise

and make the fans exhaust out the back

[balmy ibex]

can u jump in call and video i’ll show @blazing sage

[blazing sage]

it do be almost 4 am for me tbh

I should probably to sleep

but either me or someone else will get to you ASAP

[balmy ibex]

same

😂

but it’s definitely wrong.?

[blazing sage]

yeah it's uh, not good CPU cooler setup

[balmy ibex]

how does the cooler work does it turn on?

[blazing sage]

basically set up the cooler like this person did it https://pcpartpicker.com/b/qxhgXL

[blazing sage]

when you plug it in the mobo, it turns on when the PC is on

crazy stuff ik

[balmy ibex]

it was on wrong way

[blazing sage]

oops

[balmy ibex]

this covers my ram

[blazing sage]

with the second fan?

[balmy ibex]

ye but it should be fine

[blazing sage]

ye

[balmy ibex]

it’s “kinda” touching the ram

is this ok

[blazing sage]

doesn't really matter

still works

[balmy ibex]

that’s what i thought okie thanks

[balmy ibex]

it don’t turn on 😂💀

[blazing sage]

rip

[balmy ibex]

what would be case of not getting signal for monitors @blazing sage

[blazing sage]

it could be a lot of things

[blazing sage]

the pc itself doesn't turn on? no fans spinning or lights?

[balmy ibex]

it turns on

but monitor not getting signal

all rgb fans spinning and lights

@blazing sage

[blazing sage]

first POST can take a long time, i would give it a few minutes

[balmy ibex]

if anything what would be wrong

[blazing sage]

it could basically be any part lol

heck, it could be the monitor cable

[warm pier]

lol your 24-pin is loose

Push the 24-pin more it's not in

[balmy ibex]

it’s working now

[balmy ibex]

so everything works except RBG lights and my wifi band thing don’t work

[balmy ibex]

apparently the fans are louder than normal idek

today was stressful

[balmy ibex]

can any of y’all help me out on call today

to help me figure it out

[solar pollen]

that is genius, I'm going to steal it

[balmy ibex]

rip

[blazing sage]

this should be a PCMR command lol

[balmy ibex]

why is it only capped at 60HZ

[paper fable]

Why are you using your iGPU

Plug your monitor into your GPU, not your motherboard

Also, make sure your GPU drivers are up to date

[balmy ibex]

ok i did switch to GPU but watch this

it goes to basic monitor pnp

[paper fable]

Do you have your drivers installed?

[balmy ibex]

yes

here let me show you

i just plugged into gpu and it shows that

but when i plug into MOBO i have the 60 Hz option

[paper fable]

Update your GPU drivers, then restart your PC

You got a 6900XT right?

[balmy ibex]

6950

[paper fable]

Once you restart your PC, try again and if you can’t see it, try using the AMD software

It could also be a cable issue. Just try to make sure everything is up to date

Microsoft Basic Display Adapter is what’s used before proper drivers are installed

It could be that the system just needs a restart

[balmy ibex]

everything is updated i believe

i went to device manager

[paper fable]

No. You wanna go to AMD’s website and update drivers from there

Device Manager will give you windows basic drivers, not the actual drivers you need

[balmy ibex]

i’ll send pictures

[paper fable]

https://www.amd.com/en/support

[paper fable]

The drivers you get from there won’t do you any good, you gotta get em from the website

[balmy ibex]

going there now

why do u say AMD btw

oh nvm

[paper fable]

It’s a 6950XT

[balmy ibex]

i’m dumb my gpu is AMD

@paper fable what other drivers am i missing

other than the AMD (it’s currently downloading right now)

and i have to buy a microsoft key right

yeah it’s still the same

any other drivers i gotta download

[warm pier]

#tech-support