WWDC 2022

[viral pilot]

This is like cobalt and stuff

[gentle cedar]

yeah, its great isnt it?

[hollow nacelle]

the rare elements used are recycled

[elder rampart]

M1 could also be a choice for me since lower price

[viral pilot]

Rare earth metals used in alloys for semiconductor stuff

[mossy tapir]

OS X now

[hollow kite]

I see

[mossy tapir]

let's see

[vague pike]

Define rare

[sinful wadi]

Os sex

[faint marsh]

for the price of MBA you could get an education discount Pro

[copper glade]

seeing them side by side really shows the chunkiness of the bezels

[viral pilot]

They are literally called rare earth metals.

[copper glade]

i think i'm keeping my M1 Pro

[mossy tapir]

mining a giant amount of dirt for very finite amount of the metals

[sleek spade]

ah yes, the crack marketing team

[viral pilot]

Most of them are not actually "rare"

[faint marsh]

Apple team's sniffed Yelan's armpit

[sinful wadi]

Chakras in alignment

[viral pilot]

But most of them are pretty polluting to extract and manufacture.

[mossy tapir]

ah finally, no more stupid mountain names

[copper glade]

this is really good writing

[sinful wadi]

Holy fuck this is what my wife does

That's what it looks like

[vague pike]

It's Apple

[viral pilot]

Monterey wasn't a mountain either

[mossy tapir]

finally windows pin in some sort ?

[sinful wadi]

yes PLS

[hollow kite]

It's normal for announcements like these

[viral pilot]

Catalina wasn't a mountain either afaik.

[ivory osprey]

Neither was big sur

[copper glade]

islands are technically mountains

[sleek spade]

it was always california locations

[elder rampart]

That laptop does look pretty sexy

[maiden raven]

continents are technically mountains

[mossy tapir]

hmm, doesn't fix the problem of having to manually resize windows but it's something

[opaque pelican]

You can open multiple windows

[vague pike]

That's wonky

[viral pilot]

So you can alt tab with your mouse.

Yay?

[mossy tapir]

i think windows vista had something like that

[faint marsh]

Microsoft copy the stage manager on Windows 11

[sleek spade]

this feels like an iPadOS feature on MacOS

[ivory osprey]

I need stage manager for windows

Holy shit

[sinful wadi]

Doesn't mac already have a virtual desktop feature

[vague pike]

WOOOOW ALT TAB

[hollow kite]

Will they change their mouse design?

[sleek spade]

mission control, yeah

[mossy tapir]

kinda feels like a scuffed feature

[ivory osprey]

This is different from virtual desktops

[sinful wadi]

I should teach her this

[viral pilot]

They still haven't figured out multi window management it seems.

[copper glade]

technically it's called Spaces

[sinful wadi]

Nooooo stop storing files in your desktop

[sleek spade]

it is eh

[hollow kite]

Yeah, this doesn't seem all too convenient

[sinful wadi]

Folders 💢

[mossy tapir]

it's scuffed

[sleek spade]

wym, all my downloads are to the desktop /s

[vagrant shoal]

did they keep the pro 13 the same

[mossy tapir]

better than nothing though

[vagrant shoal]

im confused

[mossy tapir]

i'm duke

[sleek spade]

eh?

[hollow kite]

The pro?

[viral pilot]

No phones.

[sleek spade]

the 13" MBP is the same with M2

[elder rampart]

They added M2 to Pro

[opaque pelican]

windows search integration

[viral pilot]

M1 release cycle v2

[frozen oxide]

It’s apple

[timber moth]

MacOace Ventura

[ivory osprey]

Holy crap

It's like a dashboard built into spotlight

[mossy tapir]

ah so now spotlight isn't a left swipe

[sinful wadi]

So many of our users didn't know about spotlight

[ivory osprey]

Microsoft will never be able to replicate this

[vague pike]

-__-

[opaque pelican]

literally windows type search

[faint marsh]

@green fjord I need PowerToys to copy more Spotlight features

[sinful wadi]

I'm glad they will have an icon now

[ivory osprey]

The bing integration is so shit, and neural engine is not a thing

[vagrant shoal]

i see what u did there

[sinful wadi]

They literally lose their apps

[hollow kite]

DARIN YEAH!

[vague pike]

Not Darren
He's been standing back there since 5 am

[ivory osprey]

Windows search is shittier

[copper glade]

of course, of course. Mail.

[sinful wadi]

Just use outlook smh

[vague pike]

Wait, Darin?

[sinful wadi]

Or Gmail

[opaque pelican]

ye

[faint marsh]

fastest browser

[vague pike]

That's so innovative

[shy kelp]

he looks like he uses mail

[sinful wadi]

No announcement for Apple mail integrations. Interesting

[shy kelp]

😂

[hollow kite]

"And that's mail"

[mossy tapir]

so a mac is the most efficient porn machine

[vague pike]

Hahaha

[mossy tapir]

got ya

[copper glade]

truer words never spoken

[vagrant shoal]

ewww safari who uses that

[sinful wadi]

"safari now on Chromium"

[hollow kite]

So deep

[vagrant shoal]

pretty much

[sleek spade]

I do =P

[opaque pelican]

safari the world's fastest browser

[faint marsh]

no no no

[sinful wadi]

Safari the latest Chromium browser

[vagrant shoal]

and also the worst its gross

[hollow kite]

Darin said so, so it must be true

[mossy tapir]

shadow realm. Idk what this is

[sleek spade]

please no

[mossy tapir]

is this the dark web for OS X

[sinful wadi]

Web push notifications. Oh God why.

Shared tab groups gud

[vagrant shoal]

browser extensions lol yea its still gonna be shitty

[sinful wadi]

This is kind of like edge thing

[maiden raven]

so people can click allow and get phished into installing malware antivirus.

[vague pike]

👍

[faint marsh]

agree

[hollow kite]

"More immersive and intuitive for users"

[shy kelp]

discover the web together

[sinful wadi]

Yep

[vague pike]

Live? Oh god

[meager heart]

Give me my damn browser extensions apple

[opaque pelican]

you can stock your friends now

[vagrant shoal]

when is ventura gonna be out tho

[sleek spade]

https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1533876070016901121?s=20&t=sqdRdVWdKnrtQ2q8lrncWg

Marques Brownlee (@MKBHD)

Apple introduces Passkeys: Sign into websites or apps using just your iPhone and biometrics. To slowly get rid of passwords, which are less secure

First thought: Now THAT is an ecosystem lock-in feature

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Twitter · Jun 6, 2022, 6:18 PM

[opaque pelican]

with us

[viral pilot]

The web has plenty of stuff to discover alright.

[sinful wadi]

Oh no

Oh fuck

[hollow kite]

Oh god

[vagrant shoal]

hm.

[sleek spade]

didn't MS do something similar recently?

[vague pike]

OH MY

[hollow kite]

Biometrics for web

[shy kelp]

oh, its literally just webauthn
but "passkey"

[vagrant shoal]

bruh are u kidding me apple 🖕

[sinful wadi]

I cloud Keychain is a big fucning problem

[opaque pelican]

pesky

[sinful wadi]

Soooooo bad for enterprise

[vagrant shoal]

icloud passwords are already stupid

[maiden raven]

Hopefully it's webauthn and not Apple specific.

[copper glade]

very fast at this benchmark js // Browser benchmark speed test suite // © Apple 2021 if (!navigator.userAgent.includes("Safari") { await delay(10000) } console.log("Test complete!")

[sinful wadi]

We are going to need to replace with last pass rn

[faint marsh]

Passkey can't be phished?

what the fuck

[sinful wadi]

You can be social engineered yes

[maiden raven]

passwords can be social engineered, too

[faint marsh]

Yeah, that's the thing

[vagrant shoal]

who actually cares about tv os

[maiden raven]

That's why you allow the site verification to happen by a computer and not a monkey

[sinful wadi]

They can probably capture the hash too.

[faint marsh]

also they used a fugly laptop again

[sleek spade]

ah yes, gaming

[faint marsh]

Okay if they bought EA

[sleek spade]

[hollow kite]

"You are not safe from propaganda" - Garfield

[mossy tapir]

so if you lose your iphone and don't have a mac, you're locked out of important accounts online

[faint marsh]

I called it earlier

[ivory osprey]

Shitty win11 laptop LOL

[vague pike]

Hahahaha

HAHAHAH

[sinful wadi]

Gaming

[vagrant shoal]

AH GAMING

[sleek spade]

apple arcade anyone?

[vagrant shoal]

NOT GOOD

[viral pilot]

So are they gonna make metal like..actually good?

[opaque pelican]

GAMING

[copper glade]

Gaming™️

[vagrant shoal]

aw hell nah

[vague pike]

Gamin heel yeeee on MacOS

[faint marsh]

cultits people anyone?

[viral pilot]

Or actually worthwile to develop for.

[vagrant shoal]

fr

[timber moth]

ah games

[meager heart]

Hi

[shy kelp]

DirectX /s

[hollow kite]

Gamers.
What do gamers like?

[gentle cedar]

all i need is toon blast for the toilet

[hollow kite]

Gaming

[viral pilot]

I mean no, they can stick with metal

[shy kelp]

metal 3

[faint marsh]

nice

[sinful wadi]

Apple Keychain is one of the most damaging and ecosystem locking things they have

[opaque pelican]

Most demanding......like tetris ?

[vague pike]

Jeremy!!!??

[maiden raven]

Webauthn, which Passkey should use, leverages public key crypto. It's shit we already trust to secure like everything anyway. Server validates client, client validates server.

[vagrant shoal]

does apple know what gaming is

[sinful wadi]

Getting my wife off it to bitwarden was hell

[sleek spade]

ooooh

[viral pilot]

MetalFX upscaling are you kidding me.

[vagrant shoal]

i mean i dont know about yall but i dont like tetris

[mossy tapir]

nice no man's sky at 720p20fps

[viral pilot]

sigh apple.

[sleek spade]

so FSR, but MacOS

[vague pike]

20 fps

[ivory osprey]

Metallica, eh

[sleek spade]

[faint marsh]

so DLSS?

[mossy tapir]

scuffed DLSS/FSR

[hollow kite]

Alright.
Grab your celery sticks, your onion dip and a glass of orange juice and let's game, gamers!

[viral pilot]

TAA upsampling it seems yeah.

[vagrant shoal]

but worse

[meager heart]

Can we get DX12 to Metal translation API lol

[viral pilot]

Lol

Apple for crying out loud

[vague pike]

That looks clunky

[opaque pelican]

the game footage seemed to run at 25 fps

[ivory osprey]

NMS mac

[sinful wadi]

Apple wtf

[ivory osprey]

Huh

[shy kelp]

Direct Storage ish?

[maiden raven]

You know the little padlock in your browser saying "this website is secure"? That's public key crypto. Works fine.

[sleek spade]

so direct storage but MacOS

[viral pilot]

So they're doing Async GPU IO and TAA reconstruction.

[hollow kite]

Game loading

[vague pike]

Haaaaaaaaaa

[hollow kite]

Lol

[viral pilot]

Kiiinda. Sounds closer to what the consoles are doing @shy kelp

[sleek spade]

wait, REALLY

[ivory osprey]

LOLOLOL

[faint marsh]

Resident Evil on MAC?!

[shy kelp]

lmfao

[ivory osprey]

DirectStorage

[faint marsh]

FUCK YES

[hollow nacelle]

apple getting into gaming now?

[sleek spade]

ON MACOS?!?!?
RE VILLAGE

[vague pike]

He's speaking flashy words!!! That means it's going to be good

[ivory osprey]

Holy shit

[faint marsh]

KAWAIIIIII~

[copper glade]

i like your funny words, magic man

[sleek spade]

oh ffs, this is mildly infuriating

[hollow kite]

MASARU, LET'S GO

[viral pilot]

Windows has a lot more going on since DirectStorage on windows is an entirely standalone thing.

[opaque pelican]

President Evil village

[maiden raven]

Anyone saying that Webauthn is going to ruin authentication doesn't know what they're talking about.

[vague pike]

Sorry I don't speak Portuguese

[ivory osprey]

WOAH

[faint marsh]

so not as good as DLSS?

[opaque pelican]

what the heck is this ?

[ivory osprey]

ITS SUBBED

[viral pilot]

We don't know yet @faint marsh

[vagrant shoal]

yea probably not

[sinful wadi]

Webauthn good but locked to Keychain suuuuuuucks

[opaque pelican]

you can watch anime on mac ?

[sinful wadi]

Need to export freely

[vagrant shoal]

they will be like 40% better with 10% of the power

[hollow kite]

No

[viral pilot]

Apple certainly has the resources to get good R&D into this.

[hollow kite]

Strictly forbidden

[faint marsh]

LADY DIMITRESCU!

[mossy tapir]

you can now side display on apple's 6K screen, your 720p 25 fps resident village

[opaque pelican]

hehehehehe

[vague pike]

Is the future AI upscaling?

[viral pilot]

We just don't know if they are.

[sinful wadi]

The way he says englush words is so funny

[viral pilot]

The future is reconstruction, yes.

[opaque pelican]

mcbook

[vagrant shoal]

fr

[viral pilot]

AI, maybe.

[maiden raven]

The future is both more power and AI upscaling.

[viral pilot]

Apple has a problem here though.

[copper glade]

the only thing missing from my Apple experience was a big titty dommy mommy vampire lady

[vague pike]

I prefer raw powah

[sinful wadi]

Macu gamu

[viral pilot]

All their displays are very high res on all their devices.

[vagrant shoal]

wtf

[copper glade]

i stand by what I said?

[hollow kite]

Upscaled big-breasted vampires is most certainly the future

[viral pilot]

Except this is more effcient @vague pike

[sinful wadi]

Craigosan

[sleek spade]

more the reason for the upscaling?

[vagrant shoal]

u ever played a real game on ur mac? at max res

[maiden raven]

People want moah powah babyy but that's increasingly hard to do without a dedicated circuit in your house, so you fake it with reconstruction.

[opaque pelican]

booba

[mossy tapir]

games finna look like those compressed webm movies

[hollow kite]

Yes

[viral pilot]

Yes @vagrant shoal

[opaque pelican]

banned on mac

[vague pike]

Most likely

[copper glade]

the pronunciation of English loan words is one of my favorite parts of Japanese

[vagrant shoal]

damn im actually surprised

[sinful wadi]

Same

[viral pilot]

Not on an M1 device, so it was even more miserable.

[copper glade]

Makko Geima (Mac Gamer)

[vagrant shoal]

the apple store games generally suck

[vague pike]

😳

[viral pilot]

But yeah it was pretty miserable.

[vagrant shoal]

tough

[maiden raven]

DLSS gives damn comparable quality between 1080p upscaled to 4k and native 4k

[sinful wadi]

Dlss up scales breasts quite well

[maiden raven]

Like the only way you notice is pixel peeping static images with a slider

[vague pike]

I guess that involves Bluetooth being on all the time?

[faint marsh]

@meager heart I am tired typing all this for the cultists lol

iPhone as a webcam

[sinful wadi]

I notice shimmering and weird aliasing more with dlss balanced and performance

[hollow kite]

Of course

[mossy tapir]

Iphone twitch sstreams when

[copper glade]

Nikki is a wine mom

[viral pilot]

So droidcam

[vague pike]

LOOOL

[sinful wadi]

It doesn't deal with aliasing as well

[vague pike]

stand price: 999.99

[copper glade]

that magsafe accessory looks incredibly flimsy

[hollow kite]

Apple catching up to already existing features and pretending they invented it yet again

[mossy tapir]

makes a giant ugly af notch just to give the possibility to use an iphone instead

[opaque pelican]

Motorola has this with it's ready for assistant for A12

[copper glade]

(this already worked over USB)

[hollow nacelle]

$20 stand

[sinful wadi]

I really like this feature because it's the best possible Webcam

[vague pike]

✨ but it's with an iPhone ™️ ✨

[hollow kite]

Shut up, Exim

[faint marsh]

@hollow kite what I want is if they export this functionality to Windows

I can use this

[copper glade]

big beautiful boca

[shy kelp]

WOAH

[viral pilot]

🤔

[sleek spade]

wait what

[viral pilot]

This is suspect.

[gentle cedar]

best webcam ive seen is a phantom flex 4k

[vague pike]

:c

[viral pilot]

How come his desk view thing was way crisper than his actual webcam.

[hollow kite]

You have an iPhone?

[viral pilot]

[mossy tapir]

it's courage

[copper glade]

this is black magic and i'll be fucking floored if it actually works

[faint marsh]

yes, also my sister too

[hollow kite]

I see

[copper glade]

probably Pro exclusive

[opaque pelican]

Hey Johnny, no cards

[vague pike]

Hmmmm wide lens isn't that wide or is it

[opaque pelican]

bye

[mossy tapir]

how expensive was the sister /s

[viral pilot]

fucking lmao

[sleek spade]

..

[faint marsh]

MEME ALERT

[vague pike]

Unless the screen is 90deg with the keeb

[shy kelp]

😂

[sinful wadi]

Wtf Craig

[faint marsh]

21 years

[vague pike]

HAH

[viral pilot]

Oh craig

[mossy tapir]

i told y'all craig is now a bollywood movie

[hollow kite]

https://tenor.com/view/linkara-coming-for-you-vagina-finda-did-you-learn-your-lesson-hmm-gif-14008494

[vague pike]

smash or password

Fingerprint

[hollow kite]

Fucking hell lmao

[ivory osprey]

iPAD

LOLOL

[copper glade]

this is a pretty great presentation

[vagrant shoal]

omfg

[vagrant shoal]

if we were all 3 years old

[maiden raven]

Where were you when passwords were kill

[sleek spade]

took them long enough to put weather on iPad

[hollow kite]

I thought it was pretty okay

[faint marsh]

Calculator

[vagrant shoal]

now we need a calculator

[meager heart]

Where’s calculator on the iPad

[sleek spade]

tbd

[vagrant shoal]

fr

[hollow kite]

Except for that removing of passwords

That's kinda stupid

[maiden raven]

No passwords is the future old man

[vague pike]

Omg a redefined Weather app 🥰😍

[hollow kite]

That's kinda stupid

[maiden raven]

It's really not.

Remove the thing that people social engineer out of you

You can't give hackers a password if there is no password.

[faint marsh]

I'll bet it will be social engineered this in a different way

[hollow nacelle]

cant social engineer a password out of me if i dont know what the password is

[hollow kite]

So I'm guessing biometrics is much safer, right?

[maiden raven]

I'd love to see it try, cuz it's implementation prevents that

[sleek spade]

so basically google docs with many people working on a single doc

[copper glade]

passwords was a mistake.

[hollow kite]

Right?

[ivory osprey]

They copied Office's Collaboration feature

[sleek spade]

and the one in google docs

[vague pike]

Google: am I a joke to you

[sinful wadi]

It's great, but it needs to be intercompatible and transferable to other password managers

[sleek spade]

but hey, it's not behind a sub

[vagrant shoal]

i dont have a password

[copper glade]

hopefully in iOS 17 they'll make the Pages suite less shit

[ivory osprey]

Do you think they're using something like SRP?

[sinful wadi]

Keychain is the only password manager I know that can't mass export.

[elder rampart]

That fake smile in the video call tho

[sinful wadi]

It's a forever lock-in

[maiden raven]

They're probably using WebAuthN

[vagrant shoal]

the bottom right note thing is so annoying they should delete it

ipados mid

[sinful wadi]

Are they demonstrating office 365 lol

[hollow kite]

Yes

[copper glade]

havent tried it lately, but im pretty sure macOS can export from iCloud keychain

[faint marsh]

Apple 365

[sleek spade]

there is no subscription for it, so far
so, I'll take it over office

[maiden raven]

https://support.1password.com/import-safari/

[sinful wadi]

We tried a year ago and there was no official supported way that would work for bitwarden

[hollow kite]

So wait, can't people be socially engineered into giving biometrics?

[ivory osprey]

Interesting

[vagrant shoal]

ok but when is macos ventura or whatevr coming out

[hollow kite]

Fuckin

[maiden raven]

I mean, you can be tricked into putting your thumb on the sensor. Your device knows what you're trying to log into.

[viral pilot]

Apple is reinventing Miro.

[sleek spade]

later this year ™️

[maiden raven]

Same deal how your password manager doesn't try to put your Google password in on Epic Games Store

[sinful wadi]

Pog so they finally have csv export

[vague pike]

Pinch ™️

[vagrant shoal]

omg its gonna be like september or october or smthng

[sleek spade]

yes

[shy kelp]

this is actually really cool for brainstorming

[sleek spade]

exactly how it has been

all these years

[maiden raven]

Everyone being like "well what about this" and it turns out we've already solved it lmaooo

[sinful wadi]

OK I'm going to do this after we have tried a ghetto ass script in like 2020

[faint marsh]

so the device will reject the request?

[vagrant shoal]

144hz but 8 gig ram

i dont understand u

[faint marsh]

If Genshin shows up again here

[hollow kite]

So overall it's almost the same, then?

[maiden raven]

The device won't send your credentials to the wrong site.

[frozen oxide]

Yeah it’d be great for school projects

[vague pike]

OH APPLE PLEASE

[vagrant shoal]

GAMING

[copper glade]

I really want Apple ID to support TOTP

[sleek spade]

budget laptop
any problems?

[hollow kite]

Gaming

[maiden raven]

Yes, but without a password. It's all public key crypto.

[copper glade]

Gaming™️

[vague pike]

Shut uuuuup

[hollow kite]

Hmm

[sinful wadi]

Metal 3 why

[ivory osprey]

I don't understand how it works but alright

[vagrant shoal]

no just do u ever run in to any issues?

[maiden raven]

You know how services send you text messages or push notifications to your phone to authenticate you?

[sinful wadi]

It's magic.

[sleek spade]

what issues?

[vagrant shoal]

ram being full?-

[ivory osprey]

Does it send the public key or a hash of the public key?

[sleek spade]

nope.

[maiden raven]

I recommend reading up on public key crypto

[faint marsh]

I am tired typing all the highlights

[ivory osprey]

If it sends a hashed public key, is it reversible?

Ah

I will check it out

[faint marsh]

I have to do it later

[maiden raven]

Public key is called public because it can be distributed freely without compromising the private key.

[ivory osprey]

Activity to Game Center Dashboard

[faint marsh]

it's too fast for me lol

[elder rampart]

oh shit

[maiden raven]

Things can be encrypted with the public key but cannot be decrypted with the public key but can be decrypted by the private key.

[vagrant shoal]

wait theres gonna be a m2 ipad

why does anyone need that

[ivory osprey]

Shareplay session using GameCenter, peertopeer

[maiden raven]

This is how HTTPS works.

[shy kelp]

desktop class apps???

[gentle cedar]

https://youtu.be/YEBfamv-_do?t=158 timestamped

[vague pike]

That's vague

[ivory osprey]

Is that what IIS certs are for?

[hollow kite]

Apple added Office 365 to iPads, so now it's desktop class apps

[faint marsh]

thanks

[maiden raven]

IIS certs are private keys

[ivory osprey]

CHANGE file extensions to files

View folder size

[faint marsh]

holy shit there are a lot of APIs

[sleek spade]

There's an API for that™️

[faint marsh]

You get an API

[ivory osprey]

Custom toolbars in Apple Office Suite

[hollow kite]

I think I'll buy ARM

[copper glade]

this from here is a fairly good lay explanation of FIDO/WebAuthn authentication https://webauthn.guide/#authentication

[ivory osprey]

They are

[copper glade]

( @ivory osprey )

[ivory osprey]

Reference mode is interesting

[maiden raven]

steamcommunity[.]com and steamcornmunity[.]com will have different private keys ( assuming Steam is smart and secures their shit ) so your client will be able to tell it's an impostor.

[sleek spade]

didn't apple already have swap =P

[shy kelp]

swap on iPad

[hollow kite]

I don't quite understand. I'll just check this out later

[ivory osprey]

Holy shit

[vagrant shoal]

16 gigs what the fuck

who needs this bro

[mossy tapir]

i'm back

[sleek spade]

didn't know that?

[vague pike]

Stage manager for iPad

🗿

[copper glade]

wooooow

[shy kelp]

OMG

[ivory osprey]

You can change display scaling to even higher resolutions on the iPad

[sleek spade]

resize™️ windows

[copper glade]

I think they should have revealed the iPad version first

[elder rampart]

If they have the capability to add more power why would the hold back?

[sleek spade]

underrated imo

[hollow nacelle]

timmy needs it to do his homework

[hollow kite]

Uh

[copper glade]

this makes a lot more sense on iPad

[vagrant shoal]

think they kept m1 on the ipad so the macbook air isnt invalid

[vagrant shoal]

fr

[vague pike]

That's actually great for iPad

[ivory osprey]

Resizing of app windows on the iPad

Holy

[elder rampart]

"Oh we made this incredibly energy and space efficient chip but "idk" in PCMR Discord said "Who needs this" so we won't add it."

[maiden raven]

steamcornmunity: Hello user, please sign in.
User: Ok cool it's steamcommunity, I'll type my username and password in.
dead.

steamcornmunity: Hello user, please sign in.
Password manager: I'll display a list of saved passwords for steamcornmunity to the user so the can pick it.
User: I don't have a saved password for this site. This is weird.
not dead

[ivory osprey]

This is much better than Samsung Dex

[vague pike]

So basically getting closer to MacOS

[sleek spade]

oooo, better external display support

[mossy tapir]

Ipad OS becoming Dex

[maiden raven]

Now think of "displaying saved logins to user" as "displays a 'do you want to sign in'" prompt

[shy kelp]

YESS

[vagrant shoal]

they should just put a modded macos on ipados and call it ipados

[vague pike]

I've been dreading for resizable windows on iPad

[vagrant shoal]

ipados>dex

[copper glade]

Apple literally just needs to give one good iPad OS application that can properly utilize M1

[sleek spade]

would hurt mac sales

[sinful wadi]

Wtf

[ivory osprey]

Wait, what

[faint marsh]

ahh

[ivory osprey]

The Apple Studio Display does NOT have universal control because it is not a full OS

[vagrant shoal]

what about the new imac

[ivory osprey]

???

It has to be plugged in?

[hollow kite]

This seems great for productivity, if you're into doing that on an iPad

[faint marsh]

@sleek spade I just want Apple to at least take gaming really seriously

[mossy tapir]

that's the closest thing to OS X having touch use

[copper glade]

but what if I wanted to log into Steam Cornmunity (the largest forum for steamed corn enthusiasts)

[sleek spade]

good luck

[maiden raven]

This is one reason a password manager is good.

[vagrant shoal]

feels like they are gonna make a m2 ultra

[sinful wadi]

Iowa moment

[viral pilot]

A standalone Studio display does not have universal control.

[copper glade]

humans cannot be trusted with passwords

[viral pilot]

Cuz it's not supposed to be used standalone.

[faint marsh]

to protect users from phishing websites, ic

[vague pike]

I was waiting more for ipadOS

[sleek spade]

seems like it's over, or is it

[maiden raven]

You'd have a saved password.

[vague pike]

Ehh

[ivory osprey]

iPadOS has full external display support

[jagged sage]

Some companies are moving away from passwords.

[hollow kite]

humans cannot be trusted with passwords

[vagrant shoal]

oh this dude

[sinful wadi]

Push notifications to devices are a pretty OK way

[vagrant shoal]

summary guy

[ivory osprey]

Just like Dex, but empowered by MacOS iPadOS

[vague pike]

Omg JACK is back???

Please

[sinful wadi]

"is this u logging in"
Yes/no

[maiden raven]

Yep. Another is making it so unique passwords are dead simple to have and maintain so the site being hacked doesn't pwn you on other sites.

[sleek spade]

humans cannot be trusted with passwords

[hollow kite]

It is, Exim

[vagrant shoal]

dex=L

[vague pike]

😭

[hollow kite]

The headphone jack is... back!

[ivory osprey]

Apple is forcing Samsung Dex to improve

[faint marsh]

I might even think of implementing USB physical security keys for my app

[ivory osprey]

I love it

[jagged sage]

You can't trust a site to have a good salt, pepper and hash algorithm tbh.

[vagrant shoal]

imagine they removed the headphone jack from the air

[mossy tapir]

well that was fun

[copper glade]

the 13" MBP is hunched over because it's ashamed of its bezels

[jagged sage]

I am still surprised how bad the security of some companies is in 2022.

[vague pike]

Can I have a jack on my Apple Pencil ™️ now ?

[sleek spade]

did you know, the XPS 13 plus doesn't have a headphone jack.

[maiden raven]

Exactly, so you make the data it knows about you useless.

[hollow kite]

Of course!

[vagrant shoal]

well damn thats sad

[ivory osprey]

The M2 has the M1 MBP audio port

[elder rampart]

The M2 air looks really good to me

[jagged sage]

I just use an email alias + bitwarden.

[ivory osprey]

600ohm headsets ayy

[elder rampart]

I'm tempted 😓

[vagrant shoal]

now its the same price as the m1 13 pro was

[jagged sage]

Pwned then revoke the alias and password is unique anyway.

[hollow kite]

Overall, pretty good

[elder rampart]

okay?

[faint marsh]

so added protection by having one unique password getting leaked instead of one yet similar passwords

[copper glade]

small app developers: "we made an website for shitposting memes. it supports MFA and 512-bit RSA encryption."
Bank of America: "your password must be at most 18 ASCII characters and contain one word from the dictionary"

[frozen oxide]

That was a pretty sick event, anyone here gon buy the new MacBook Air? A few ppl around me is

[maiden raven]

Indeed.

[hollow kite]

Now M1 MacBooks will be cheaper

[maiden raven]

Whooo legacy backends

[vague pike]

Apple and their COVID-19 aesthetic ✨

[hollow kite]

This is good

[faint marsh]

Yeah I am actually impressed

[frozen oxide]

Isn’t it still 999

[faint marsh]

I might even get a Mac for productivity and have a gaming workstation PC instead

[elder rampart]

same

[ivory osprey]

This is one of my favourite WWDCs ever
The entire 2-hours is jam-packed

[frozen oxide]

That’s what I plan to do, MBA and gaming setup

[faint marsh]

super jampacked

[jagged sage]

I prefer calculating the entropy over arbitrary password requirements.

[hollow kite]

Yes, but I'm not buying a MacBook directly from Apple, because they suck ass here. They're charging $1200 for it

[faint marsh]

like a dedicated home gaming/workstation is bae

[frozen oxide]

It doesn’t mix well but macs can’t game so ig windows will have to do

[ivory osprey]

And here comes the Apple ending

[jagged sage]

Those password requirements might even make dictionary attacks easier.

[faint marsh]

are you going to import?

[sleek spade]

tempted to get a MacBook in the future as a side device

[elder rampart]

MBA is gonna be so good for certain coding things and using FL Studio but I want to have my dual monitor Windows 11 setup for gaming and shit

[hollow kite]

I'll buy it second hand

[copper glade]

i'd prefer if apps would just trust that i know what i'm doing, and let me shoot myself in the foot if i want to.

[frozen oxide]

I wanna buy the new MBA so badly but I can’t justify it lol

[hollow kite]

Importing would be just as bad as buying it new

[copper glade]

ideally, all my passwords would be 7+ word dicephrase passwords, all lowercase.

[elder rampart]

If I get into college I'm buying one

[vagrant shoal]

the new one is 1200

[faint marsh]

@maiden raven from what I observe, event threads are much more okay yet lower in terms of user interaction (like server wide I mean)

[frozen oxide]

Glgl

[faint marsh]

ah taxes

[ivory osprey]

Developer-centric forums

[jagged sage]

Nowadays I just generate a random password using Bitwarden.

[ivory osprey]

I'm excited for that feature

[jagged sage]

However your password is too long

[ivory osprey]

Should i get an iPad or a M1 MBA for my mom?

[jagged sage]

.....smh

[frozen oxide]

15 for me since I’m Canadian

Fuck

US privileges smh

[ivory osprey]

Some sites put a 16-character cap on the password length

[jagged sage]

It depends

[copper glade]

but I still have to do %KKGaBgAFW because dumb services think this is more secure than jaybird starting mustiness attendee senator dingbat

[ivory osprey]

My standard passwords from Apple are 18 characters

[faint marsh]

and then goes into over drive when they get hacked

[frozen oxide]

Can you use the trackpad to draw? I need that for my physics notes

[copper glade]

not currently, although Preview lets you sign your name using the trackpad. it sucks

[vagrant shoal]

tough

[frozen oxide]

Ouch

Maybe a third party will make it work

[vagrant shoal]

i wanna justify the m2 mba but i have a m1 and its def not worth the upgrade

[frozen oxide]

I need the thing for taking notes

[ivory osprey]

She has no computer. I gave her a 13 Pro recently and I think either ofthose would be really good.

[frozen oxide]

It’s not, but the new one is so fucking hot

Fanboying rn

[vagrant shoal]

fr

[hollow kite]

Yucky

[frozen oxide]

Also are they actually limiting the new home screen font to iPhone 14?

[vagrant shoal]

i might have to wait till the next air to have real reason for an upgrade (maybe)

[jagged sage]

If it is only some browsing, watching videos and taking notes. The IPad Air suffices.

[copper glade]

i think somebody did build something like that a long time ago, and it sort of works if you use a stylus.

[jagged sage]

If you need more a MacBook makes more sense.

[hollow kite]

World never says hello back

:(

[shy kelp]

😩

[frozen oxide]

Doesn’t get any cleaner

I’m glad they actually made a better black

So much better than the space grey bull they use to give

[copper glade]

pretty nice looking device

[vagrant shoal]

aw what the fuck

shitty puns

[faint marsh]

RIP to those who predicted that the new Air will have white bezels

[vagrant shoal]

i really like the new colour

[frozen oxide]

Apple is known for shitty puns

[frozen oxide]

Ew

[vagrant shoal]

i wouldnt even have given it a chance if those "leaks" were true

[copper glade]

silver is still the best looking option, but i'm glad there's a proper black for people who like that sort of thing

[faint marsh]

I thought I was gonna see another Genshin ad inside Apple events

[frozen oxide]

I don’t think there’s gonna be much competition in the 1000 dollar thin and light range now

[copper glade]

bit annoyed that the M2 doesn't have the black keyboard chassis from the M1 Pro

[hollow kite]

Unless you want to play videogames

[copper glade]

i like that part of the design, tbh

[hollow kite]

But other than that, it's almost certainly the way to go

[vagrant shoal]

this doesnt look really good rn 100$ more and it looks so much more dated

[frozen oxide]

You can’t get much with 1k tbh

Especially in gaming

[vagrant shoal]

if they give the 13 a m2 pro or whatevr

that would make sense

[jagged sage]

Well you can get a 3050 but its going to be a thick laptop

[faint marsh]

Apple ad fail (not fail)

[frozen oxide]

I mean, as long as the new mba can play over watch I’m good, I’ve just gotten back into it and it’s great

[hollow kite]

Whatever you can get for 1k is most certainly better at gaming than a macbook

[frozen oxide]

True

[jagged sage]

If you want a thin and light its going to be 💸

[vagrant shoal]

the 512 gig gets a different adapter, a 35w ok thats just annoying

[frozen oxide]

It’s gon be burning hot tho, no fan

Is the base model 256/8?

[vagrant shoal]

yup

[frozen oxide]

They ain’t never getting rid of that 8g

[vagrant shoal]

ok good thats just default options

[shy kelp]

Apple dev site dying

[vagrant shoal]

why would u want a 35w when u can get a 67 for the same price

[frozen oxide]

Holy shit it comes with one

Incredible

Take a moment to thank the apple devs for their generosity

[shy kelp]

?

The macbooks have always come with a charger lol

[wide fox]

too many people?

[shy kelp]

yea

[jagged sage]

Wouldn't be surprised if Apple suddenly removed the charger.

[frozen oxide]

I know, was just worried that they’re gonna follow the iPhone

[shy kelp]

People trying to get the dev profiles

[jagged sage]

environmental reasoning

[shy kelp]

OH SHIT

it redirects to sign in now

[frozen oxide]

Touch, that’s cool. Didn’t even know macbook airs had that

[shy kelp]

They've always had Touch ID

[frozen oxide]

Guess I’ve been living under a rock

[wide fox]

People what do you think of future events being a thread in this server?

[jagged sage]

I like it.

[frozen oxide]

It’s less active so that’s cool

Special events are like the only time I show up here anyways

[jagged sage]

Makes more sense instead of hijacking hw discussion and renaming it.

[vagrant shoal]

bruh

[wide fox]

I like the idea but user count will be much lower but then again, the idea is quite good

After all, this is a test

[wide fox]

Are you going to beta test macOS Ventura?

[shy kelp]

idk

[frozen oxide]

No improvement on battery?

Damn, to be fair it was already the best but I was expecting more

[wide fox]

I just scrolled to my Instagram

[shy kelp]

hair force one

he's only 53???

[green fjord]

silver flow

[wide fox]

mission control activated

[shy kelp]

he looks way older than my parents and my parents are older than he is

[hollow kite]

https://tenor.com/view/linkara-coming-for-you-vagina-finda-did-you-learn-your-lesson-hmm-gif-14008494

Most certainly a reference to Linkara

[wide fox]

That's the thing tbh

[opaque pelican]

petition for this as one of PCMR emoji

[wide fox]

@green fjord can be possible?

[jagged sage]

Did they lower the price of the m1 air?

Or they just added the m2 air on top?

[opaque pelican]

@jagged sage

[shy kelp]

M1 stayed the same, M2 went up by $200

[jagged sage]

I really wonder if the increased price is worth it. We'll see once reviews drop.

[jagged sage]

Ah already testing it. Cool.

[shy kelp]

Yee

[copper glade]

I hope Ventura makes it so the menu bar shows in full-screen mode, but only on a notched display

I want it on while using the laptop itself, and off while connected to external monitors

[shy kelp]

you can make it

oh

[wide fox]

Nice

now where do I find my fellow Windows Insiders in here

[frozen oxide]

Anyone gon buy the MBA?

It looks promising but there’s alot of trade offs to it

[copper glade]

meh

if Apple managed to cram a second display out in there I’d snap it up in a heartbeat

i realize docked laptops are a relatively niche use case but i’m absolutely floored that Apple keeps making high quality laptops that don’t support it

[sage cedar]

i just got a macbook air (for the first time) last week and its m1

apple released m2

im kinda pissed now

[copper glade]

the M1 MBA is still a fine laptop, and arguably a better deal

[sage cedar]

yea

for m2 its 200 bucks more

now does the new m2 macbook air have a fan

if it does everyone is gonna buy it

[copper glade]

M2 MBA is fanless, AFAIK

[sage cedar]

god dam it

[copper glade]

but neither has real issues with throttling, especially compared to Intel notebooks

[sage cedar]

as i've used the macbook air m1 it really does get hot

i hate how every review or video of the m1 macbook air says it doesnt need a fan is quiet and nice and cool and never gets hot when video editing

i have one and that thing when doing anything like video editing and gaming gets hot

how fake news is these days

[ivory osprey]

This thread is still going?

[copper glade]

https://youtu.be/T1XgFsitnQw

https://youtu.be/tEvXVJHTQAk

[faint marsh]

we can make it go forever?

[ivory osprey]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=T8Jdp7Y70oM

[sage cedar]

Wtf