Nxbulaa_ System

[reef glacier]

here

[vivid dagger]

epic

-ideally want it to last me a few years
-i do streaming/content creation regularly
-budget is 1500-1700 USD dollars
-m-atx motherboard
-rgb isnt needed but isnt a turnoff either
-planning on using steam/obs davinci resolve regularly
-probably buying ASAP
-wifi connectivity needed but otherwise i have everything else|

-not opposed to prebuilt but would also be willing to build my own PC

[reef glacier]

Nxbulaa_ System

[mellow pulsar]

Are you in the US?

[vivid dagger]

ye

updated

[narrow vapor]

so far this is what i've got selected

[reef glacier]

why that cooler

[vivid dagger]

could i ask maybe a particular question

[reef glacier]

go ahead

[vivid dagger]

https://www.microcenter.com

how difficult/possible would it be for you guys to try and source stuff from the st. louis park mn micro center?

[reef glacier]

MC makes life in a way much harder

their PSU selection is horrible

[vivid dagger]

yeah, thats understandable

[narrow vapor]

i mean we can spec out the system in pcpartpicker

and then you can go to MC and ask

i suppose

[vivid dagger]

true

but being able to build asap would be nice

[mellow pulsar]

Microcenter's part selection is incredibly limited, unfortunately

[vivid dagger]

tragic

alright, carry on then

[reef glacier]

you want an MATX system right?

[vivid dagger]

not required, that was just the board we settled on in dms

[reef glacier]

What resolution are you gaming at?

[vivid dagger]

1080p

streaming at 720p60fps, recording at 1080p60fps

[narrow vapor]

it's just cheaper

since he's said he's not gonna be using a capture card

I just figured matx would work

[mellow pulsar]

You can easily stream 720p60 with any modern 6 core

Or NVENC, if available

[narrow vapor]

that's true

but i didnt want to build an am4 system since it's eol

[vivid dagger]

i dont have any specific preference for gpu/cpu

[reef glacier]

@vivid dagger https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M76GJM feel like I missed a good cheaper PSU somewhere

only RGB is on the case and you can just not plug it in if you wish

[narrow vapor]

what's the name of that one good quality superflower psu?

ok no not that case

[reef glacier]

what is wrong with p360a

[vivid dagger]

if i were to toss another 200 usd in there what could you get me?

[narrow vapor]

ah sorry the front panel isnt glass

low res image makes it look like it

[reef glacier]

better GPU but 3060ti is overkill for 1080p already

[vivid dagger]

even for 360hz?

[narrow vapor]

yeah but current gen + nvenc

very worth

[trail patio]

The -A in Phanteks cases stands for airflow

[narrow vapor]

i see

[trail patio]

P360 Airflow

[reef glacier]

maybe a couple more cores from a 12700 or some more storage

oooh 3070 is only 50 more

for the even more overkill aspect

[trail patio]

Grave, isn’t the Revo DF 650 cheaper than A-GF

And what’s with the Rocket

[reef glacier]

Revo DF and phanteks

[trail patio]

Oh fuck yeah I forgot

Stupid Phanteks

[reef glacier]

unless the case is changed

sadly H510 flow and NR600 are 90 right now

the US case market is horrible

@trail patio I wonder if Revo D.F fits in H510 flow

[trail patio]

It should

[reef glacier]

or lancool 205 mesh

[trail patio]

It fits in an H510 from what I understand

[reef glacier]

both 85 at his local MC

[trail patio]

Ah, is the Rocket at MC?

That one seems like an odd choice

[reef glacier]

sorry the regular content creation always worries me

so I chuck in rockets

[trail patio]

Recording at 1080p60, Rocket is gonna be way overkill

[reef glacier]

@vivid dagger what do you think about getting the case at MC?

[vivid dagger]

i could go smaller on the SSD, i usually drop my captures on a fat HDD

[reef glacier]

couple more options there

[trail patio]

Even something basic like an MP33 would be great still

[vivid dagger]

id prefer to be able to get all the parts at MC so that works for me

[mellow pulsar]

@vivid dagger https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gMmXRv
My take on the list

[narrow vapor]

why msi

for the mobo

[reef glacier]

good list

better than mine

[mellow pulsar]

Why not? It's a solid all round board

[narrow vapor]

yeah but the bios is a mess

[reef glacier]

@mellow pulsar change RAM to aegis since he isn't interested in RGB

[mellow pulsar]

That's subjective

[trail patio]

Is HCG fixed?

[mellow pulsar]

Oh, I didn't know that

[trail patio]

I thought it was old Focus

[reef glacier]

all the bad focus are out of production

[narrow vapor]

why not crucial ballistix c16 3600?

[reef glacier]

unless he gets old stock he is fine

[mellow pulsar]

It should be, to my knowledge. If not, there's the Earthwatts for a bit more

[trail patio]

Is HCG even in production anymore?

It’s an old boy unit

[reef glacier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdgFf7/corsair-rm-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020234-na quiet option

[trail patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJmFf7/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-1

GF1 PE cheaper than HCG

[mellow pulsar]

Oh yeah, apparently the GF1 internals were changed at some point

[reef glacier]

@vivid dagger and this is why you want multiple people

[mellow pulsar]

I lack knowledge or context, but Juular mentioned it

[trail patio]

Interesting

I thought it was still CWT-GPS

[narrow vapor]

oh wtf when did the Leadex III 750W get so expensive

[reef glacier]

might still be but modified a bit differently

[narrow vapor]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TRRT16?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[reef glacier]

isn't RM a heavily modified GPS

[narrow vapor]

these >

[trail patio]

I believe it is

[narrow vapor]

that whole line of crucial ballistix c16 memory doesnt really bin, so a 3200mhz kit can likely do 3600mhz no problem

[trail patio]

Not paying $80 for a 16GB kit >>>

[reef glacier]

wouldn't that be 160 for 32gb?

[narrow vapor]

ohh right

i saw the (2 x 16gb) and thought it was 16

reading hard

[trail patio]

Not everyone does RAM OC, Ballistix isn’t useful unless you’re insane and like to OC RAM

[narrow vapor]

lol

[trail patio]

Unless it’s the cheapest or close to cheapest option, don’t bother

[mellow pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VK3gXL/neo-forza-faye-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl19-memory-nmud416e82-4000fg20 🤔

[vivid dagger]

i dont really trust myself with OC i should mention

[reef glacier]

I think he is hinting at someone

[trail patio]

[narrow vapor]

i may be insane

but at least im not crazy

[reef glacier]

he means me

[mellow pulsar]

Modern overclocking is extremely difficult to mess up

[trail patio]

I wonder what that bin is

[narrow vapor]

hey i also OC'd my ballistix ram dont feel bad

im at 3733 c14

[mellow pulsar]

No idea

[reef glacier]

@vivid dagger modified chimp https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Lj6Q6

[reef glacier]

nice. I got 4733 cl18 on mine

[narrow vapor]

im running a zen3 cpu

[mellow pulsar]

I only have 3200 C14 on my Rev E

[narrow vapor]

my IF doesnt go up to 4k

[mellow pulsar]

Lotta limitations on Zen+

[reef glacier]

5700g. zen 3, but stupid for RAM

[narrow vapor]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NWF1JQC?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

?

[narrow vapor]

5600x

[mellow pulsar]

That doesn't have wifi

[reef glacier]

where is the WIFI

[narrow vapor]

who needs built in wifi

[reef glacier]

he does

[vivid dagger]

hi

[mellow pulsar]

He needs wifi

[narrow vapor]

ok watch

[reef glacier]

why not just get a WIFI board

[narrow vapor]

because you can get a cheaper board with a wifi card

i also have a grudge against msi

[mellow pulsar]

Are you sure about that?

A board + a wifi 6 card under $140

[reef glacier]

MATX boards don't really have a ton of PCIe real estate for a WIFI card

[mellow pulsar]

A board as good as the B660 A Pro, at that

[narrow vapor]

true but the only pcie device he'd have is the gpu

[reef glacier]

ask stain about his MATX board hunt with that

[trail patio]

B660M-A totally isn’t like, a meta board

Cheap board with great features

[reef glacier]

and in your case a WIFI card

[trail patio]

You want thunderbolt support? You have it

[reef glacier]

unless you are suggesting USB WIFI

[trail patio]

USB WiFi….

[narrow vapor]

ok no usb wifi sucks

[mellow pulsar]

Although, it's weird to have 4 display out ports on a board so cheap

[reef glacier]

5000G are the best ryzen CPUs for RAM OC

[trail patio]

Weirdly enough, meta office motherboard

[mellow pulsar]

True, I suppose

[reef glacier]

not the greatest CPU performance but who cares when you can do this

[trail patio]

For the office workloads that require a shit ton of cross referencing, slap an IGP and 4 displays on there

[narrow vapor]

ok but that's not the use case here

[trail patio]

I’m just raving about how good this “shit” MSI board is

[narrow vapor]

i have no doubt that the board works as intended

msi is just shit in general

[trail patio]

Very subjective

[mellow pulsar]

Your brand loyalty shouldn't be pushed onto other people

[narrow vapor]

it's not brand loyalty it's more like

brand disloyalty

[trail patio]

Gigashit and Biostar have something to say to you

[mellow pulsar]

Uh huh

[trail patio]

All BIOSes suck

[narrow vapor]

nice bios there

[trail patio]

Just cope with one that sucks less than Giga

[mellow pulsar]

Whatever you wanna call it, keep it away from support channels

[narrow vapor]

🧻

[trail patio]

It’s functional

[reef glacier]

Personally my favourite BIOS so far is Asus but I don't use that to dictate my suggestions

[trail patio]

Most people hit XMP and never go into BIOS again

[mellow pulsar]

@vivid dagger How's things going over there?

[narrow vapor]

ehh "game boost" can increase cpu voltage to dangerous levels

[vivid dagger]

oh, i'm just reading haha

[trail patio]

Okay

[narrow vapor]

so functional is a stretch

[reef glacier]

Welcome to your average PCMR debate

[trail patio]

The Gigabyte board you sent has shit BIOS too, what’s your point hehe

[narrow vapor]

what gigabyte board

[vivid dagger]

average internet* debate

[narrow vapor]

i posted an asus board

[trail patio]

Oh fuck that was Grave

[mellow pulsar]

It is an optional "feature" which is usually advised against, anyways. All auto OC software sucks on every manufacturer

[trail patio]

Auto OC sucks, turn it off

[mellow pulsar]

It's no surprise MSI's does, too

[narrow vapor]

yes

[vivid dagger]

is this what we're running with?

[trail patio]

I assume the A2000 is available at MC and that’s why it’s there

Solid list overall

[reef glacier]

I thought MC wasn't a requirement

[iron adder]

Ooo a thread

[trail patio]

I don’t think it is, but if not for MC, wouldn’t an A60 make more sense. Unless you’re trying to push for a dedicated DRAM cache instead of HMB

[iron adder]

The ssd price is quite high

Suprisingly SN750 SE is cheaper

[trail patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Y6YLrH,VXyqqs,7tCFf7,P8Z9TW/

Any of these would be okay alternatives