It took me 1.5 years to save up for this. I recently just upgraded some pc components.

[hidden scroll]

your wallpaper is my deskpad -_-

[cobalt night]

haha I love this wallpaper

[sturdy pivot]

it's so clean. I'd be afraid to touch anything

[brave notch]

this is absolutely stunning

[honest ibex]

Zero Cables anywhere whatsoever? Nice.

[honest ibex]

That's a good way to put it

[hybrid sinew]

I need to get myself some split loom or something… cuz this is what I wanted with my new desk and all lol

How did you do this? How did you hide all the cables so well??? I am eager to learn, master TJ.

My setup is here https://discord.com/channels/77710284621357056/1313624711099449354

will be waiting for suggestions

[candid reef]

I just recently built a setup decked out with rgb and I regret it

Should’ve went the noctua wood case route

The rgb excitement dies down a day or two after using it

[cobalt night]

Thanks for the support and kind words guys! I'll buy an AIO in the near future, blacked out RAMM and perhaps some noctua fans for better airflow and maybe even some corsair pro power extension cables

@hybrid sinew I will send canle management pics soon!

It's quite simple the way I set it up

[brave notch]

I wouldn’t get Noctua fans for airflow

They get outcompeted by most of the high end fans when it comes to CFM/Db

And those fans all cost less than noctuas

[cobalt night]

What are your recommendations?

[hybrid sinew]

I was doing fan research last night and found that the NF-P12 redux (1700 rpm) has a higher CFM and static pressure than other similarly priced fans

[hybrid sinew]

⬆️

[brave notch]

Imma need sources

I know ur a Noctua shill so just in case to avoid bias

[hybrid sinew]

The manufacturer websites

[brave notch]

I’ll get you some recs when I get home

Outside en

[cobalt night]

Okk

[brave notch]

Manufacturer websites aren’t always accurate

[hybrid sinew]

I tried Arctic, Corsair, thermalright, etc

[brave notch]

It’s always best to look at third party

[hybrid sinew]

If they aren’t who is? They’re the guys that manufactured the stuff

[cobalt night]

I just literally installed 6 deepcool fk120s tho

[hybrid sinew]

Ok I went to pcpartpicker

[brave notch]

Yeah but 1. You’re looking at brands not models and 2. There’s a lot of other good fans

[hybrid sinew]

I’m looking at models

[brave notch]

That sounds familiar

Are those the new ones?

[hybrid sinew]

I looked at all the non rgb models cuz I hate rgb now

[hybrid sinew]

Which fans are those “other good fans”?

[hybrid sinew]

I actually had one of the bearings on those die on me

I have an actually working one in my pc right now, but in the us DeepCool got banned

[cobalt night]

why?

[hybrid sinew]

Cuz it’s DeepCool idk

I must have gotten a bad batch

Oh as for them being banned

Ask the us government

[cobalt night]

as in why banned

[cobalt night]

lol

[hybrid sinew]

It’s cuz they supplied pc parts to Russia or something

[brave notch]

dealing with russian businesses

[cobalt night]

ppl in russia need to game too man

[hybrid sinew]

Exactly

[brave notch]

one of their main logistics businesses also supply the russian military with logistics

[hybrid sinew]

So who’s gonna answer this?

I’d love to be proven wrong again cuz noctua is expensive

[brave notch]

looking rn

stop being to hasty

i just got home

[brave notch]

wait hold up if you already got fans tho why upgrade again?

[cobalt night]

il give these ones to my bro

[hybrid sinew]

Hopefully you’ll compare similar price ranges

[cobalt night]

he doesnt have a pc so all my upgrade parts are going to him

[brave notch]

btw the p12 redux 1700 is loud as fuck

remember every 3db is a doubling in sound pressure and every 10 db is a doubling in amplitude (loudness)

[hybrid sinew]

Honestly I don’t care about noise

[brave notch]

right so conveniently ignore the largest drawback

[hybrid sinew]

The Arctic fans seem thin and fragile

[brave notch]

"seem" once again judging without any knowledge

[brave notch]

ahh i see

[hybrid sinew]

I’m going for high cfm and high pressure of course it’s gonna be loud

[brave notch]

@cobalt night btw how quiet do you need these fans?

[hybrid sinew]

I’ve seen pictures… there’s not much plastic on their fans

[brave notch]

the case is pretty small so im guessing the quieter the better?

[cobalt night]

idc about noise

[hybrid sinew]

lol

[brave notch]

the p28 at 38 db and 4 more CFM while higher static pressure

[brave notch]

gotcha so pure performance

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8mhv6h/super-flower-megacool-15187-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-sf-pf121-bk_3p @cobalt night

this is purely performance

[cobalt night]

yeah my rig is just black silvery aesthetics pure performance

[brave notch]

ignorant of audio'

one of the best performing fans

and around 13 per fan so it aint that costly

[hybrid sinew]

You’re not comparing against the p12 redux

[brave notch]

i am

[hybrid sinew]

The redux does more like 70 cfm

[hybrid sinew]

Where’s the redux in that list?

[brave notch]

green is redux 1700

the one you said was better than all the rest?

yellow is the p28

the lower on the list the better btw

[hybrid sinew]

Still higher cfm in their test

[brave notch]

wdym

the redux has lower cfm????

can you read

[hybrid sinew]

Against what? Yellow or green?

[brave notch]

dude... can you lookl at the image before arguing

in green is the redux

in yellow is the p28

the lower the better

[hybrid sinew]

How much is the p28?

[brave notch]

idk abt current price lemme check

i got em for 9 usd

20 each

[hybrid sinew]

You’re in Canada so that doesn’t count lol

[brave notch]

so 5 bucks more than the 1700 rredux

ouch

anyways i suggested the megacool

not the p28

holy shit

https://hwbusters.com/cooling/super-flower-megacool-120mm-pwm-fan-review/5/ @hybrid sinew yo dude look

[hybrid sinew]

I thought you were recommending the arctic f12 like what’s highlighted in the first pic

[brave notch]

the megacool outt30'd the fucking t30

[brave notch]

ah no the reason its highlighted is that this is actually a review of the arctic

but its also the most recent fan review

tpu sometimes does retests and puts them in new reviews but doesnt update old ones

[hybrid sinew]

Well that was confusing me so bad as to what you were comparing

[brave notch]

ah lmfao

but ye wasnt comparing the p12

that ones is more just a meh fan

[hybrid sinew]

Well good cuz they’re mid

[brave notch]

lmfao

[hybrid sinew]

At best

[brave notch]

main issues is the bearings

not the best and loud as fuck later on

[hybrid sinew]

I like the daisy chain system the p28 has

Makes cable management better

[brave notch]

that is actually the main reason i got them

i physically refuse to somehow connect 20 fucking fans seperately

[hybrid sinew]

How would white fans in a black case with no rgb look?

[brave notch]

bad

[cobalt night]

bad

[brave notch]

black fans in white case? good

white in black case?

[hybrid sinew]

Most of my system is white and black anyway

[hybrid sinew]

Ye

[brave notch]

white in black case = failed panda

[hybrid sinew]

lol

[brave notch]

@cobalt night anyways ye if you dont care much for audio get the megacools

they're fucking absurd

[cobalt night]

jet engine moment

[brave notch]

oh they arent too loud either

[hybrid sinew]

If white in a black case looks bad then gray in a black case must be worse

[brave notch]

only 38DB without a radiator behind it

[hybrid sinew]

81 cfm my word

[brave notch]

thats art low speed settings btw

look at max

the t30 lost

severely as well

[hybrid sinew]

Dam insane

That’s like a room fan

[brave notch]

they consume an insane amt of power tho lmfao

[hybrid sinew]

Oh

[brave notch]

9w per fan

[hybrid sinew]

Yeah I don’t need that much cfm

[brave notch]

lol

[hybrid sinew]

The purple one is fine for me lol

[cobalt night]

9w per fan is not a joke lmao

[brave notch]

i mean its only like 3-4 fans

not too much

if ur like me and use 20 fans tho

[cobalt night]

gg

[brave notch]

180w on fans alone

[hybrid sinew]

So what do I use if I have 10 of them?

[cobalt night]

might just stick w my dep cools

[brave notch]

90

[hybrid sinew]

I don’t have a backpack pc

What?

[brave notch]

its fine dw 9w isnt actually too much

besides

put them on low preset and you still get 80 CFM at 2w

[hybrid sinew]

That’s much better

I can handle that I think

[brave notch]

or mid and 100cfm at 3.7

[hybrid sinew]

Maybe

[brave notch]

3.7 is pretty normal

[hybrid sinew]

Well I know for a fact that my current fans aren’t even doing 50 cfm

Only 20 bucks a pop is nice

[cobalt night]

i love staring into my pc and its like pure darkness

i turned all rgb off now

[hybrid sinew]

I turned mine off as well except for the GPU light

[cobalt night]

the only light is jmy desk lamp and it looks so clean

white illumination

[hybrid sinew]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-01B3-00003?Item=9SIAMNPJXY5394

I’m afraid lianli fans are running out of stock…

[brave notch]

i dont think they are

last time they were clearing out the p28s whiuch was why i got em so cheap

but they IMMEDIATLELY restocked

[hybrid sinew]

Amazon has 4 left of the black

[brave notch]

@cobalt night

\use the promo code

unless you wanna p[ay 20 per fan

20 per fan is disgusting

[cobalt night]

sir

i buy later

maybe black friday 2025

[hybrid sinew]

The lianli p28 do 92 cfm on performance mode

[cobalt night]

they look quite aesthetic too

but

im saving up for 7800x3d and better ram

[hybrid sinew]

Newegg doesn’t have the p28 when I search for them

[cobalt night]

why?

[brave notch]

ah

[hybrid sinew]

Cuz they must not be on good terms with the us gov

[brave notch]

hopefully prices dont change

wait a minute isnt black friday over?

[cobalt night]

25

[brave notch]

ye

same issue as the t30 tho

loud

[brave notch]

oh

[cobalt night]

next yars gonna be crazy bro

[hybrid sinew]

The problem with the p28 is they are hard to source

[cobalt night]

im planning a 5080 build

[brave notch]

the problem with high pressure designs is that they're all loud as fuck

[brave notch]

9 USD

9

HEHEHE

[hybrid sinew]

From where?

Oh but you’re in Canada

[brave notch]

ye i want you to be mad

jealous even

[hybrid sinew]

I think I’ll get the mega cooler they’re better anyway

[hybrid sinew]

So much for maturity levels lmao

And ye I said that just to make you mad lol

[brave notch]

this is pcmr nobody is mature

[brave notch]

they 100% are much better

[hybrid sinew]

Do you use them?

[brave notch]

nah i considered them

but then i thought

"do i really wanna wire 20 fans?"

turns out the answer was no

also. 180w

also they're even louder than the p28s

[hybrid sinew]

Oh well I’ll just wire them lol

[brave notch]

that much noise will geniunely kill me

remember, sound stacks

[hybrid sinew]

I play the bagpipes do I don’t mind noise lol

[brave notch]

total dBa of 18 Megacools lmfao

[hybrid sinew]

The bagpipes are like 110 dB

I’ll be using 10 lol

[brave notch]

bro 110 is a rockband lol

[hybrid sinew]

Exactly… ever heard of bagpipe rock?

[hybrid sinew]

They don’t need amps

[brave notch]

oh i thought you meant a single bagpipe

[brave notch]

9 at medium is 56 btw

[hybrid sinew]

I said 10 for the love of accuracy

[brave notch]

calculator im using only accepts 3 inputs at once

so 9 is the closest i can get cuz 3 ^2

[hybrid sinew]

That’s dumb lol

[brave notch]

also just in case you wanna put them at max

[hybrid sinew]

They’re pwm right?

[brave notch]

ye

[hybrid sinew]

So they will throttle as they need

[brave notch]

well that depends on the fan settings you put

[hybrid sinew]

My fans rarely rev lol

[brave notch]

ok right so why upgrade?

just to suffer?

[hybrid sinew]

Cuz I hate the way the semi translucent fans look when the rgb is off

And I have some fans with permanent lights

[brave notch]

ah i see

welp

i have now unshilled the noctua shill

[hybrid sinew]

Maybe

[chrome tangle]

Simple & classy setup. I like it.

[cobalt night]

@hybrid sinew

Cable management

[hybrid sinew]

Everything is the same on mine except I didn’t mount the power strip to the bottom of my desk lol

And those are… strange power connectors

[cobalt night]

Connectors??

[brave notch]

The plugs

Since they’re angled

At least that’s what I can see (my phone’s screen is broken and colours are faded so I literally can’t see shit)

[candid reef]

9 megacools is crazy

I have one and I can still hear it 18ft across the room when it’s at full

[hybrid sinew]

I want 10!

[brave notch]

I’m pretty sure 9 can set your Mobo on fire

[brave notch]

If you do you need a fan hub

To my knowledge it’s unsafe to daisy chain 3 of them with most Mobo PWM headers or fan hubs

So stick with 2 per header at most

(Also get earmuffs)

[hybrid sinew]

I have some already

My motherboard is also rated for higher fan power just in case

[hybrid sinew]

Noise cancelling headphones work too… right?

[brave notch]

idk

probably not well?

its 60dBa