ASUS

[river pelican]

A sus

can’t wait for these to go for sale

[narrow granite]

These dual monitors are insane

4k 240 or 1080p 480hz

OLED

[quick pecan]

I fully expect someone to steal the mouse that was next to it in the original pic.

[river pelican]

4k 240 is very exciting

[quick pecan]

32 inch 1080p sounds pretty nasty to me.

[languid crow]

a worthy trade-off

[river pelican]

480 tho

[narrow granite]

Got the PCMR Award as well

This one is quite interesting at 39 inches

[quick pecan]

I don't care how high the refresh rate is if it looks pixelated.

[narrow granite]

And they are pushing their BTF cableless builds

I guess that's one way to get rid of the 12vhpwr

600 watts right there is kinda crazy

[quick pecan]

So is this specific card only available in their pre-builts?

[narrow granite]

I believe you will be able to buy all of this and build yourself

But you need a compatible case, which I believe many will be soon(ish)

and a compatible motherboard, of course, asus

[quick pecan]

Impressive and a bit weird. Do you know if it's standard on the PSU end?

[narrow granite]

it is

you connect 3 pci-e 8 pins on the motherboard's back

[quick pecan]

Clever.

[torn sandal]

I wonder how much they will ask for that monitor. Like 2 grand?

[quick pecan]

Which one?

One of the other companies with the same thing has it at $1500 if I remember correctly.

[narrow granite]

I think it will be closer to 1500, yeah

somewhere between 1300 to 1600

@quick pecan

[honest hare]

oh nice, BOTH

should always have been both tbh

[calm berry]

not the monitor lamp

[river pelican]

Nah

I like the comp edge

[quick pecan]

Cool, i don't.

[unborn coyote]

Might just be the solution we need

And asus saw it coming with the cable issues so they did that

Their connector does look smoll tho

[unborn coyote]

Tho the 12VHPWR is still being used in the back of the motherboard

Time will tell

[narrow granite]

Indeed

Interesting as long as we don't get it too locked

[limpid crest]

OLED

Here's greater reason to cry

[unborn coyote]

Wdym like locked to very little hardware like XG mobile?

[torn garden]

When if you plugged them all in

[torn garden]

That data isn’t fully accurate as Oled is evolving very rapidly right now

And many current Oled screens actually don’t burn in much

[limpid crest]

THAT'S THE MICROLED

Microled roadmap

[torn garden]

Ah

[torn garden]

Still doe don’t piss on Oled just yet lol

[limpid crest]

We won't get the replacement until 2030 all because someone smart in LG and Samsung decided to do a "research" to prolong the life of OLED

[limpid crest]

For people who work on their monitor it's still a bad option

If you are using it 8 hours per day, 5 days per week on average it should take around 2 years or below to burn in

People often use the argument "my OLED TV or something or phone lasted longer" yes it's because the voltage isn't as pushed as on gaming monitor

[torn garden]

Not really

Current gen OLED panels can already do quite well

[limpid crest]

Not at such heat

[torn garden]

Samsung’s QD OLEDs are surprising, as they have had very little burn in in RTING’s 10 month mark

[limpid crest]

60hz OLED is fine

[torn garden]

1. That’s not how burn in even works it doesn’t literally burn and
2. Depends on what brightness level

These 2 are Samsung’s QLED tvs

Most left is new most right is 4 years of use

Zero burn in which is quite suprising

They are currently testing the G8 and AW34, and they are both at the 2 year mark

Let’s see what will happen with those

Most likely the same as the TVs

[limpid crest]

Higher refresh produces more heat and uses more energy

Don't compare 60 hz to 240 hz monitor

[torn garden]

Use more energy would be the part causing burn in but not the heat

Burn in isnt as the name suggests, it doesn’t literally burn

[limpid crest]

Ik

[torn garden]

It happens when the chemicals in the blue sun pixels start naturally dying

[torn garden]

Then why are you dragging heat into the equation

[limpid crest]

It leaves specks on the image

[torn garden]

Once again, time will tell

Another 10 months and rtings is gonna drop their next update

By that time the G8 will have been tested for 6 years of use

[limpid crest]

There is shitload of reports of past OLED gaming monitors burning in not even 4 months after the release

[torn garden]

Currently most Oled gaming monitors are QD OLEDs from Samsung

And those are wuite the bit more resilient than other OLEDs

[torn garden]

Yeah I’ve seen those too

Issues with Oled ig, also once again, depends on mode

Model*

oh and I don’t think we’ll have OLED for that long

Current research to develope a gallium mixture for the blue sub pixel that is just as responsive, colourful and bright without it dying to fast

[quick pecan]

QLED is not QD-OLED.

[quick pecan]

Wasn't it the other way round before Gen 3?

[torn garden]

Shit yeah

Tf was I thinking

[torn garden]

Nono the issue with the extremely fast burn in wasn’t actually burn it

It was an issue on the firmware side of things

After Samsung fixed it QD Oled became a lot more resilient

[covert otter]

lmao same thing i thought

even 27 inch 1080p is pretty gross and 32 inch 1080p what the helllll

you could see the pixels from mars

[harsh seal]

720p 60inch

You should ses the pixels from like 12ft away if u look hard enough

[torn garden]

No way that’s real

Is it?

[harsh seal]

The old tv in the living room

It's 60" or 55" can't quite rember an Samsung tv 720p

I think it's 60 bcs the new one is 60 and looks the same as the old one

[torn garden]

Holy fuck that must be BAD

[harsh seal]

Yea we have to sit like 12ft away lol

[oblique patio]

Would be pretty awesome if this feature could get implemented into Mini ITX motherboards down the line.

SFF builds and less cables to deal with is always a win win situation.

[torn garden]

The problem is all the cables will be at the back

Might even be more of a pain in the ass to build

[narrow granite]

You need to route them anyway, how could it be more of a pain than now?

[torn garden]

i was thinking smth like excess cables making a cable monster

but then again I've never even touched itx so im likely wrong

[oblique patio]

That is true, but it doesn't change the fact that they need to be routed no matter what.

In this case with BTF though it'll eliminate the need for a GPU power cable/s, which is one less pressing issue to deal with.

To mitigate the need for rear power connectors on ITX perhaps sideway orientated ones could work, much like how EVGA did with some of their boards.

It would remove the need for specially designed cases just to accommodate cables behind the motherboard, but you'd need to plan your cable routing a bit more carefully.

Would definitely warrant shorter custom PSU cables.

Despite the ASUS rep at CES saying BTF is mainly for aesthetic purposes, there is a true need/possibility for improved airflow and space optimisation in ITX cases whilst also removing points of failure which this feature can fix somewhat.

[narrow granite]

about airflow, I'm always reminded of that LTT test where they stuffed a case with all kinds of crap and the temps were mostly the same as with a perfectly clean and cable managed case

[gloomy wave]

“Go to settings to activate Windows.”

[harsh seal]

They don't got enough money

[narrow granite]

small indie company, bro!

[narrow granite]

Dat curve

handing out the award

[winged bison]

I hope ASUS has some sort of burn in warranty for their new oleds. I know lg and Corsair have it

[unborn coyote]

I’d get micro led or miniled personally

God tier (that really expensive one) VA or TN is also on the table

[quick pecan]

Good luck finding a micro-LED monitor.

[unborn coyote]

they ain't monitor size yet

[quick pecan]

Just TVs, no?

[unborn coyote]

ar glasses and probably vr too

[limpid crest]

Mini led has issues on it's own, it's not worth it

The response times are almost on the level of early VA panels

And microled won't come until 2030 at earliest

[quick pecan]

It can be.

[unborn coyote]

i just need more backlights

[limpid crest]

And blooming

[unborn coyote]

can't be as bad as reg ips

[limpid crest]

It can

If you are opting for the longevity and if you are working on the monitor premium IPS monitors are way to go until 2030

WOLED can hold for above 3000 hours(testing by the customers is still ongoing) which would be alright for couple of years if you are work outside person but it has the issues of it's own like the color accuracy and display being too dim. It will degrade slower than OLED tho

[unborn coyote]

😭

[unborn coyote]

Ty for the tips

[unborn coyote]

Gaming mainly but also school work

Content viewing too

[limpid crest]

As long as you are not spending 8 hours per day, 5 days per week on it WOLED is gonna last you a couple of years

[unborn coyote]

I’m currently playing full time

But few years on a lappy is gud enuf

[lethal nebula]

4k 240 holy shit

I'm sorry but 1080 480 why

nobody could tell the difference between 240 and 360 let alone 360 and 480

[quick pecan]

Some people can.

Not many, granted, but some.

[lethal nebula]

Fighter pilots can't even notice a single black frame in a video of white frames above 320 I highly doubt someone will be able to tell the difference in 360 and 480. That's a difference of .7 milliseconds per frame. It's not even a full millisecond of difference.

[narrow granite]

Because they can due to the nature of the panel they're using for the main 4k 240 event, so why not give the option?

[narrow granite]

that's a very specific test. In some gaming situations 240 vs 360 is quite noticeable. The test they tend to use is moving text on top of enemies on esports games. Of course, the higher up you go the more diminishing the returns.

[unborn coyote]

I know a future one, one of the only cousin in my family my mom says we can keep up with eachother.

[unborn coyote]

Personally after hitting 80fps vrr is gud enuf