#Dark and Darker

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junior hare
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I just flip the ingots

gloomy summit
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After my weapons got nerfed twice and having my team repeatedly killed by wizards, I have concluded that my best melee option is in fact the Lute

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in combination with the aoe silence song

glad mason
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I love that ruins is duo now

junior hare
gloomy summit
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Yes

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I cancelled his chain lightning

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and stopped his magic missile before

junior hare
gloomy summit
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lmfao that looks so lethal from a 3rd person perspective

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swinging that lute like a baseball bat

junior hare
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servers have gone down twice in the last couple hours so I recommend not gearing up for runs atm

gloomy summit
junior hare
gloomy summit
glad mason
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ā€œ18 naked rangers in the shower at goblin caves, big hard throbbing bows just waiting to be drawn….ā€

junior hare
gloomy summit
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with my current stats my lute does 95 to the head

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If I see a wizard I run them down

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I am living the life

gloomy summit
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I am currently looking for a strength cape with + all, will pay handsomely

gloomy summit
junior hare
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pretty sure it's just a scam key now

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since they took out the ruins treasure

gloomy summit
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They allegedly moved it somewhere else but I have not seen any new door for it

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not the hoard, but whatever new room its supposed to be for

junior hare
dawn viper
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Patch Notes:
Fixed an issue where the Quick Slot status of the spectating target may not be reflected properly.
Now, after using a utility item, you will automatically grab the utility item in the next slot.
An option has been added to automatically equip utility items in the inventory when pressing the utility hotkey.
The character's base mesh has been changed for better compatibility with more clothing.
Added a new loading image.
Ironshield's logic has been updated.
The attribute bonus ratio for The Wizard's Ignite and Magic Missile spells has been adjusted to 50%.
For the time being, All Attribute options on all items will only go up to +1.
High roller ante is adjusted to 50 gold.

gloomy summit
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Bard went a patch without a nerf

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Unlike wizard

junior hare
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wild

dawn viper
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I just started to run the ignite build

gloomy summit
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I made a build around drinking alcohol

glad mason
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Does alcohol stack like how potions used to?

gloomy summit
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No

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A bard trait makes it heal you for 5 HP instantly

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The cheapest option is 1 gold so its twice as valuable as a potion

glad mason
junior hare
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leaderboards started again
assuming they're following the rough schedule from last time, that means wipe happens in 3 weeks

gloomy summit
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when I looked at 43 minutes in some guy already had 53 rogue kills

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very balanced class

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just running down every lobby by the looks of it

junior hare
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it's a rogue / wizard / bard comp

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wizard is taking double memory and the rogue has headshots for 120 or something

junior hare
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top leaderboard comps are all buff ball donkSad

junior hare
gloomy summit
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I saw that recently

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probably the best unique in the game

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you just roll bosses with it

junior hare
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seems fun NODDERS

gloomy summit
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Patch Notes:
Fixed an issue where the trade pop-up may not properly close.
Movement speed now has a hard cap of 350.
The Quarterstaff now deals 100% damage no matter which part of the Quarterstaff hits the opponent.
Axe Specialization changed from +5 Additional Physical Damage -> +10% Physical Damage Bonus
Rogue's Double Jump slow on landing duration reduced from 3s -> 2s
Wizard's Haste duration decreased from 12 -> 6s.
Wizard's Invisibility duration decreased from 5 -> 3s.
Movement speed reduced from 70% -> 65% of base movespeed when casting with a Spellbook.
Movement speed reduced from 70% -> 65% of base movespeed when casting with a Crystal Ball.
Achilles Strike's Physical Damage on hit reduced from 10 -> 0 dmg, Damage taken per step decreased from 5 -> 1 dmg
Achilles Strike's Slow debuff increased from Ā -10% -> -30% movespeed
Accelerando's duration decreased from 12s -> 8s, and movement speed boost decreased from 5/7/9 -> 3/5/7 movespeed
Drum's movespeed penalty increased from -20 -> -30 movespeed
Francisca Axe’s damage has been slightly reduced.
Bard’s Song of Silence now targets ALL nearby targets including oneself.
The effect radius of Bard’s Unchained Harmony has been changed from 600 -> 300.
Bard’s Tranquility now heals 1 recoverable hp/s over 10/20/30 seconds.
Bard’s Tranquility effect now only applies while resting.Ā 
Bard’s Chorale of Clarity effect now only applies while resting.
The animations of Horseman's Axe, Hatchet, and Viking Sword have been slightly changed.

gloomy summit
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Sdf also mentioned more changes focused on tempo next week

junior hare
junior hare
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quarter staff would be so much fun if they made its block a twirl motion and gave it a big area but short ass block time

gloomy summit
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I have given up

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Bard is officially dead

gloomy summit
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You bring nothing to the table now in a fight, just a scuffed fighter without the tankiness or damage

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the trade channel even dropped to 60 people for bard

junior hare
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they honestly should redo the whole class, or at least add a resource mechanic so the original effects cost something to use

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when 100% of meta comps include bard, there's a serious problem

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it sounds like they just want everyone to sit more often with these changes

gloomy summit
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I genuienly despise the resting mechanic

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Its the worst feature of the game, nobody wants to spend any amount of time being forced to sit down and do nothing

junior hare
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i agree it's pretty boring

junior hare
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  • Fixed several issues that could cause server instability.
  • Characters lvl 14 and under will be placed in a seperate matching pool. If any member of a party is lvl 15 or above, the entire party will be placed in the lvl 15+ matching pool.
  • The level requirement to sign up for the for the Trading Post has been increased from lvl 10 -> 15.
  • Fixed an issue where the Darkswarm circle would mostly end in the center region of the map.
  • Wizard's invisibility duration has been increased from 3 to 4 seconds.
  • Wizard's Haste duration has been increased from 6 to 8 seconds.
  • Added an option to control whether items in the following utility slots are automatically placed in your hand after an item is used.
  • Improvements to Ironshield.
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i wish they'd address the gold sellers

gloomy summit
dawn viper
junior hare
glad mason
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I like the matchmaking level change. The trading post change not so much 😐

gloomy summit
junior hare
junior hare
gloomy summit
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At least it makes finding the portals easier

gloomy summit
junior hare
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i wonder if the portal spawns are predetermined or random

gloomy summit
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pretedetermined I believe since there have been chinese gold farmers on ruins who would just bee-line to a random spot on the map and wait for a blue portal to appear

junior hare
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on an unrelated note, i'm up to 6 keys now

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gonna see if I can buy a shitty artifact before this wipe and goof off with it

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i'll prob need like 15-20

junior hare
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my kingdom for more stash space Sadge

gloomy summit
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thats a sexy stash

gloomy summit
gloomy summit
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I have entered my tank bard arc

junior hare
gloomy summit
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its 26.9% base

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45% with my buckler and Harmonic shield on

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48.8% standing next to cleric

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Rapier + Buckler actually popping off

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I got inspired to run this after I finally gambled a good piece after wasting at least 5k in crafting and instantly dropping it onto the crypt floors

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Also, I gave my fighter friend a Viking Sword with 40 base damage I found and he likes it more than the falchion

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Overhead instead of sideswings

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And also a waaaaay cheaper option because people don't even buy purples for 50

junior hare
gloomy summit
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I bumrushed a juiced cleric today with a pre-nerf morningstar at 47 basedamage and he couldn't get me below 50% in 4 hits

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probably because he hit me with the shaft with how close up I was but basically anything thats not a fighter or rogue I can just run down now

junior hare
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i've been liking morning star more

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i 2-shot any squish class now

gloomy summit
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Its also great for smashing boxes

junior hare
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made it to the 10 key mark

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need to sell this and i'll prob have enough to buy a shitty artifact

gloomy summit
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god damn

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thats easily a key, maybe two

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Actually I have no clue just how much people overpay for high-end items with sought after stats

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the jump from blue to somewhat ok purple is way too high already

junior hare
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funnily enough, I've sold it before for 4 keys

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it ended up on the market again so I bought it a 2nd time to flip xdd

gloomy summit
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lmao

junior hare
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sold this for 5

gloomy summit
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Have you been doing HR boss runs or just killing juicers

junior hare
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i'm a trade goblin now

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mostly flipping in trade now

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though i do kill the occasional juicer in norms

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HR isn't worth it when leaderboards are pumpin

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risk/reward just isn't there

gloomy summit
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the level 15 change was the best thing they've done so far

junior hare
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yeah i enjoy it a lot more now

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soloing in crypts is a nightmare now though

gloomy summit
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Perhaps biased because we got multiple gearsets in normals from opponents DubuGiggle

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We have me spamming din and a ranger running tracking, if you're a solo rogue you're not making it out of our lobby

junior hare
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oof that's evil

gloomy summit
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I still like HR just so I can actually find legendary items

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we ate shit a lot but that also means we learned what not to do in fights

junior hare
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yeah HR requires a consistent team

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there's still too many buff ball teams

gloomy summit
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Just yesterday we killed the Rank 1 ranger in kills

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our ranger was complaining about money problems right before, now he has a full HR set

junior hare
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it legit only takes a couple good runs to go from zero to hero

gloomy summit
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one good fight

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or just farming standard crypts really

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Bard with luck potion is still great for that

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multiple purples per run, even if the stats suck most of the time

junior hare
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the treasure hoard nerf makes bossing way less worth it now

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idk if it's the same 10-loot cap in HR

gloomy summit
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I bet it is, considering its a better loot table for it

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Regular boss is 100% never worth it

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risking a set to the void for 2 blues, nah

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rushing chests and mini-bosses is better really

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But for practice? Sure

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And then try to do the HR one

junior hare
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running warlord as cleric with no bard MS buff is pain peko

gloomy summit
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its all the way down to 21 ms now

junior hare
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still really good if your team has 2 lobsters

gloomy summit
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yeah, but at this rate they might as well just remove the song with how problematic it is

junior hare
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i'd be a bigger fan of reducing the song nerfs and doing 1 spell memory instead

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keep them strong but make it a limited choice

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maybe people would take dissonance then

gloomy summit
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it needs more variety in skills first

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there are only two other options and both suck

junior hare
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maybe even turn a couple of the songs into slightly better skills and give them a CD

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like chorale into a skill where you don't have to sit, but it's like a 60 second cd

gloomy summit
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that would actually be great

junior hare
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tbh all the instrument switching is what kills me for bard

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it's not fun having to cycle all the time

gloomy summit
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they did mention a rework thats already planned so we'll have to see

junior hare
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geegaPray pls devs

gloomy summit
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more changes to tempo this week which I'm interested about

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also I believe there is a duping exploit going around

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gold keys are dropping in value

junior hare
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that dupe has been around for multiple patches

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people are just now finding out though

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i think the dupers are mostly the chinese RMTers

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which would make more sense how they're able to sell so many of them for money

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and also why the actual market value of keys has gone UP over this wipe instead of down

gloomy summit
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Most likely will be another wipe once they fix it I imagine

junior hare
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they seem to be consistently wiping within a few days to a week of leaderbaords ending

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I'm thinking prob a week from now

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i hope they learned their lesson from adding in +3 all atty

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rogues with 130 hp shouldn't exist xdd

gloomy summit
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they better remove the weakpoint + ambush build

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I'm just glad a lot of rogues seem to not use it

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it single-handedly made me stop playing GC

junior hare
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they'll probably nerf ambush somehow

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I'd be more interested in seeing a +weap damage cap of 1 across all items

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this rogue i played with has >20 weap damage or something insane

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his full combo on the 3rd strike of castilon does 250 damage

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~160 on first strike

junior hare
gloomy summit
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Apparently the dupe has been fixed and the majority of offenders have been banned

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Source, people who got banned

junior hare
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this is the richest I think I'll be

gloomy summit
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should invest soon, wipe should be very very soon

junior hare
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yeah I've got 1 good lobster set
also trying to collect gear for a meme mace melee build for cleric

gloomy summit
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If you want a meme build, I found out Magic staff works with smite

junior hare
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yep it's hilarious

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but the AS is so slow

gloomy summit
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25 added magic damage with base will and a blue staff

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90 to the head

junior hare
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you do more dps with 2 strikes of mace

gloomy summit
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Not against plate boys

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and you can "counter" maces by going into handle range

junior hare
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if they run I strike geegaGoon

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tbh I've been seeing more fighters just sit back with 60 crossbow bolts

gloomy summit
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thats the meta

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pepper from ranged until advantage presents itself

junior hare
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i kinda wanna troll and run judgment smite together

silent hornet
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hello my fellow DAK N DAKKA bretheren ratirlBusiness

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Oh ye, mentioned this back in Aethel's server but I managed to sell off my 3+ attribute (green rarity) War Maul for 300g ratirlBusiness

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@junior hare

gloomy summit
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the true feat is selling a war maul to someone at all

silent hornet
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LOL I think war mauls are fine imo. I feel powerful when I manage to land a hit elmohype

gloomy summit
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I wanted to like it but its easy to dodge a headshot with it and swinging for a safe hit on someone means getting a limb hit which is like, a 66% damage penalty

junior hare
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any other meme builds y'all can think of for me to do with all my cash?

silent hornet
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True.. my heart kinda sinks when I miss a swing Smoge

gloomy summit
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I was committed to the alcoholic punching smite build before I found out it scaled with magic staff

silent hornet
junior hare
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holy shit, they're gutting rogues:
Patch Notes:
Fixed a bug where gold coins could be duplicated.
Cleric’s base Strength increased from 11 → 13.
Cleric’s base Agility increased from 11 → 12.
Cleric’s base Will decreased from 30 → 25.
Cleric’s base Resourcefullness increased from 5 → 7.
Rogue’s base Agility decreased from 35 → 30.
Rogue’s base Resourcefullness increased from 15 → 20.
Rogue’s Ambush perk damage bonus decreased from 50% → 30%.
Rogue’s Hide base duration decreased from 60s → 20s.
Rogue now has Hide Mastery Perk that increases their hide duration.
Rogue’s Weakpoint Attack’s 50% Weapon Damage Bonus on the initial attack has been removed.
Rogue’s Weakpoint Attack’s Armor rating debuff has been reduced from -40% → -25%.
Rogue’s Weakpoint Attack’s Duration 5s → 3s.
Reduced the damage of all daggers.

junior hare
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Wipe is happening Sept 26
https://darkanddarker.com/news/5

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This time users will keep all their characters and their level progression. Please note that the update will also introduce sweeping balance changes that will affect almost every class, weapon, and item in the game.

dawn viper
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rip rogues

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actually dead class now

junior hare
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I'm surprised they hit THAT hard

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kinda weird that they nerf the weapon damage bonus instead of nerfing the attribute

gloomy summit
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Rogues literally one or two-shot people, it needed to be hit that hard if not harder

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Will see how much damage it now deals, might still be enough

glad mason
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that was only if you had full build though.

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it absolutely guts early game rogue

dawn viper
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punches > naked rogue dmg

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too lazy to get on to test it but its prob the same LUL

gloomy summit
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you did not need full build lol, a blue dagger was enough for full PDR people, and you can grab any for 50g

dawn viper
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omg the dagger nerf

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prenerf starter rondel is 17 dmg, nerfed gray rondel from shop is 15 dmg

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new started rondel is only 13 dmg

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jesus fuck

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You're actually better off punching then using the starter dagger

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punching does more dmg

junior hare
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i bet they did that to nerf the goblin cave troll farmers

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force them to actually risk something and bring in gear, otherwise you have to fight the troll for 6 mins

gloomy summit
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arent warlocks farming the troll harder atm

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with hellfire spam

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Well I suppose extracting would be easier with rogue

junior hare
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rip key prices

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spend them now while you can

dawn viper
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white quality rapier has more dmg than unique daggers

junior hare
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since they're not wiping levels, I'll probably grind out my warlock and fighter again in preparation

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spent half my assets now on pre-nerf cleric gear

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I'm gonna be JUICED

dawn viper
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purple stilleto is 19 dmg

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thats only 2 dmg more than the pre nerf starter rondel

silent hornet
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wait what?! WIPE already?!

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They gutted the rouges too?!

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I was just starting having fun with that class man Smoge

dawn viper
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yeah, you kinda have to use rapiers now on rogue

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or its 0 dmg daggers lol

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starter rondel dagger has the same dmg as a torch

gloomy summit
gloomy summit
gloomy summit
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HR boss dropped this

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HUGE cleric staff

junior hare
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oof, feels bad

gloomy summit
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Did some bossing practice for the next wipe, number one issue was different teams contesting us

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Ghost king is such a pushover its not even funny

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Lich on the other hand, all it takes is one hit and you're done, and he tosses one attack every 3 seconds

junior hare
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did they fix the invis pools yet?

gloomy summit
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haven't seen any invis ones

junior hare
gloomy summit
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we managed to not get hit by it so far, unlike our friends who died every time

junior hare
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i have to jump before he moves upward or else it always hits me

gloomy summit
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If you're ranged you can just walk out of the room

junior hare
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yeah I might have to start doing that

junior hare
gloomy summit
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Until mechanics happen

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If you strafe to close to someone else it can hit them instead

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Also forces you to group up every time pink curse cast

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worst offender is honestly the slow missile

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especially when he casts pink curse immediately after

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HR also has the swarm attack that forces you to be way closer to the boss

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For show, he does 3 different mechanics at the start of the video

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Oh man that buckler block at 0:20 was sexy as hell EZ

silent hornet
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I’m never trusting a random for being friendly again. I just experienced being backstabbed.. Drained

junior hare
junior hare
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nothing tilts me more than people opening trade on you trying to sell their shit

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it's like door to door salesman but in-game

gloomy summit
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I don't often get it, but my friend did immediately when he entered the bard channel after their biggest nerf

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There were like maybe 60 people in it and people in there are just desperate at this point

gloomy summit
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Big update list on the DaD discord

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can't copy them

silent hornet
gloomy summit
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There is a lot to say about whats new in this update so I'm just gonna post the welcome message instead

gloomy summit
junior hare
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did they nerf bows slowing yet?

gloomy summit
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no

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they upped armor and lowered damage across the board

junior hare
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i'm probably skipping this wipe then

dawn viper
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14 mov speed

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huh?

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even gray ones have 14 mov speed

gloomy summit
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wait really?

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My brain must have kept skipping past that information

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So its straight-up better lightfoot boots

dawn viper
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yeah

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its 100% not intended

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its 14 mov speed LUL

junior hare
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my biggest gripe is that anytime there are item changes, they only have the change apply to future item rolls, so it weirdly fucks both the game balance and market

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and there's no reason they can't retroactively change items either (could've just had all +3 all attribute items -> +1 all, and it would be a quick script to do)

dawn viper
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the zones seem to come in pretty fast now

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even tho they added 1 extra ring

tardy rain
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they didn't do a stash/progression wipe with this update right?

gloomy summit
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wouldn't be a wipe if they didn't

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XP stayed

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Almost all the items in the game are radically different right now

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it went from items being only used for their modifiers to rare items always being good thanks to base stats

gloomy summit
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last call to buy nice gear from the vendors

gloomy summit
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also warlock is fun as fuck

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We've been griefing people so hard

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If they even make so much as a step towards us, we drop an earthquake into hydra, helfire and an explosive bottle

gloomy summit
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Its over

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This hotfix is god awful

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Like

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What the FUCK

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They enabled absoulety insane values on items

dawn viper
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wtf

gloomy summit
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They finally slowed down ttk to where it felt good

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Just to drop the lowest ttk in the games existence

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From +1 max on items to +5

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Mages, rangers and archers about to grab gear with +10 damage on a single slot

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I seriously don't understand

junior hare
gloomy summit
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we just crafted this

tardy rain
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oh shit?

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we have crafting now?

gloomy summit
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There are additional items beyond rubysilver and cobalt now yeah

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And the modifiers are previews now, so its no longer gambling

tardy rain
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so are you able to select your desired stats with different associated costs or something?

gloomy summit
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no they just show like any other items in the store

tardy rain
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ohhhhhh

gloomy summit
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Most quest items are very sellable

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Don't skip over or vendor them

dawn viper
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wait you can curse of pain the hydra to heal?

gloomy summit
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Yep, I could have sworn it didn't work when I tried it on release

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Maybe they bugged it

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Either way, we played one high-roller, queued into one of the rank 1 leaderboard grinders, got one-shot cheesed by chain lightning on a hydra

dawn viper
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you can life drain it also

gloomy summit
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sure but life drain is dookie

gloomy summit
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Also I recommend not going high-roller until they hotfix warlock

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People are abusing Hydra + Chain Lightning

gloomy summit
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So apparently the devs didn't like how high the ttk was after the wipe, so much so that they decided to release this demon of a hotfix right before the weekend

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I hope they don't push this game in a direction against their playerbase's wishes

tardy rain
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It's gonna be a lot of fiddling around and seeing what works.

gloomy summit
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#1081941105672724500 message

junior hare
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I think they need to straight up remove weapon damage and probably wizard invis to get combat/market to the right spot next

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not sure if there's really an elegant solution to removing the buff ball meta, or if they're even interested in taking it in that direction given that it's been the main comp since Feb

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with how easy it is to level a character, it would be nice to get viable comp variety other than bard + cleric/wizard

gloomy summit
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neither bard or cleric are meta lol

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Meta is pure DPS

junior hare
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oh it changed that much for this wipe? literally every leaderboard team still had bard even post nerf on last wipe

gloomy summit
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gear is abundant right now

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and stats are too high

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so rogue/wizard/ranger just destroy everything

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and the most toxic comp right now is warlock and wizard

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just chain lightning off hydra

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free one-shots around corners

junior hare
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oof

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hopefully this next wipe comes quicker then

gloomy summit
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just need more balancing on warlock

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and hopefully a deserverd nerf to chain lightning already

vocal tendon
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Nah clearly wizard needs a buff

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i am not at all biased by the fact that magic users are always my favorite in video games

gloomy summit
junior hare
dawn viper
gloomy summit
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High roller btw

junior hare
dawn viper
gloomy summit
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Interesting hotfix coming up

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sweeping changes to most gear and modifiers, have to see how it turns out, but merchants got shafted, thank god, and dungeon loot has been "significantly" increased

gloomy summit
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god damn

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my gear got crunched hard

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it might even be worse stats than wipe start

quartz nacelle
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all my gear that I bought yesterday got destroyed CEASE

junior hare
gloomy summit
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My 60% PDR 51 Strength bard build is gone

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Including my 3 backup sets

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Which is good

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Means fights will be a lot fairer

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And we won't run into 300 HP barbarians

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Also warlocks will remain poor

gloomy summit
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Boys its inflation time

gloomy summit
gloomy summit
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there is currently an issue with the inventory where no items will be saved past whenever the problem started

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So right now people are duping like crazy, but you can also practice bosses with no risk of losing gear

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You just restart the game to roll back

silent hornet
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How much would you sell this for? Hmm

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any knowers? DinkDonk

gloomy summit
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Before the hotfix? vendor

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Even after I would sell this for 50 max

silent hornet
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No I JUST found this lol

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aw 50 Sadge

gloomy summit
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Before the hotfix as in the one thats being worked on before the game is playable again

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I've just been logging in and out to do the HR Troll with full gear

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Also

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"Additionally, as an apology for all of these inconveniences, we plan to provide 5 Blue Stone Shards to all players who log in after Hotfix #16. "

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Even for those who haven't played today

silent hornet
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sold it for 200g lordae3Letsfkngo

gloomy summit
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yeah because everything is monopoly money right now

quartz nacelle
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yeah its a problem that trader chats are full of legendries

gloomy summit
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Item random modifiers have been rebalanced back to similar to hotfix #14.
The total amount of Additional/True Magical Damage that can be obtained has been slightly increased.
All Attributes was limited to a maximum of 1.

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unlucky

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at least all + has been limited

quartz nacelle
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Yeah anything over 1 is a bit much imo

silent hornet
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How much you think all this is worth since crafting is a thing? Hmmge

junior hare
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Shrugeg i just start my prices high up and then slowly work them downward

silent hornet
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OK so far I've learned, people are willing to buy moldy bread for 25g each and intact skulls for 60g each

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Still selling hehe peepoSitBusiness

silent hornet
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bro gold ingots are so expensive NotLikeThis

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I need like 7 to make make a ring and it likes 800-900 an ingot

gloomy summit
# silent hornet

these sell dependent on who's looking for them at the time, most common ingredients sell from 50-100g. with wolf parts going up to 200-300 for claws and fangs and up to 400 for pelts

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Its one of those things you have might have to try multiple times selling, since people only buy when the weaponsmith rolls well and then spend the next 30 minutes scrounging up the parts

gloomy summit
quartz nacelle
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If anyone needs gold bars I got 6 on hand for 600g a pop okayM

junior hare
quartz nacelle
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dawn viper
junior hare
gloomy summit
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send help

gloomy summit
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I have breached 200 HP on bard

tardy rain
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what in good god's name is that face

gloomy summit
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Orc race, +1 strength, the debuff is being ugly

quartz nacelle
junior hare
gloomy summit
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yes

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191 without it

junior hare
dawn viper
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Longbow's projectile Speed ​​has changed reduced from 3500 → 3250, The Hitslow movement penalty from -35% → -30%, and the hit slow duration from 1.5s → 1s.
Recurve Bow’s hit slow movement penalty changed from -25% → -20%.

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slightly nerfed the hit slow but didnt remove it

silent hornet
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Barbarians stay winning and untouched EZ

gloomy summit
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Another day, another bard nerf

junior hare
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For testing purposes, you can now only enter ā€˜Normal' Dungeons with Rare grade items or lower. Higher grade items found in the dungeon can be used during that session. geegaWoah

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about to see a spike in Rare item costs

gloomy summit
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how my friend put it:

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purple with 3 str +1 all, + 3 wep dmg, 50g, blue with 2 str, 2hp, 600g

junior hare
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on the plus side, it also sounds like naked vulturing in normals will be more profitable

gloomy summit
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Too lazy to make it but If I wasn't I'd make a gif of cleric changing from red to blue saying "Clerics after hotfix #17"

gloomy summit
silent hornet
gloomy summit
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loading into HR GC like

dawn viper
#

We will be conducting Hotfix #18 patch on October 26th (UTC), which will entail an early closure of the leaderboard and a wipe. At this time, only the items will be wiped. Hotfix #18 will definitely bring changes to the game direction based on the results of testing conducted so far.

In order to allow time to assess the outcomes of these changes, Patch #2, which was originally scheduled for early November, will be postponed slightly and is now expected to take place in mid-November. Patch #2 comes with a wipe of all characters, items, and Triumph levels. We will provide further details in the patch notes. Thank you.

dawn viper
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mid november for full wipe

silent hornet
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TIme to empty the ol inventory before wipe and put it to good use pepeEvil

gloomy summit
junior hare
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the scalies have arrived

dawn viper
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My first death of the wipe

random cave
gloomy summit
dawn viper
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Lvling and gearing is so fast this wipe

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It feels like I'm speed running a game when I've done 5 runs and hit lvl 12 with half my stash being decent blues etc

random cave
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You just get gaming cormann slayyy_corn

dawn viper
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they reverted magic missle and invis to their previous states with this wipe yikes

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also added a explosion spell thats OP af

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that crap hit me for 80% of my hp as a fighter

junior hare
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they struggle so hard with balancing wizard

dawn viper
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got 1 shot from a parry by a purple longsword

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I hopped off after getting hit for 80%+ of my hp twice in a row

vocal tendon
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magic is either too weak or too strong in my experience

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in most games

dawn viper
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the first that was literaly just wizards casting explosions through a doorway while the other people just sat and waited

gloomy summit
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within the next weeks will likely be the best point to jump back in

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they mentioned they're going to add solo, duo and trio queues for every map next week

dawn viper
junior hare
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they're adding a f2p version Pog

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and they finally got rid of the +all attr

gloomy summit
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Its already available on their website now

junior hare
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I'm gonna give the new wipe a shot NODDERS

gloomy summit
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I believe they said that this will be they're biggest update yet

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so good timing

dawn viper
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its back on steam

junior hare
atomic bronze
gloomy summit
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The Ice Cavern Abyss slaps

junior hare
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they REALLY have to get rid of druid instant shapeshift

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or nerf the rat speed

junior hare
tardy rain
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Time to become a druid main

glad mason
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Mouse go squeak

gloomy summit
junior hare
tardy rain
glad mason
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also a bunch of attack damage modifier nerfs for druid polymorph forms

gloomy summit
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and all of them justified except dreamfire

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ah nvm misread that as spell count not spell tier

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so its all justified

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We had a round in HR with one team running 2 two druids

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The entire module was covered in vines

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and my team did not have a fun time figuring out which treant was friendly

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oh and one bear overhead took 130 HP away from me, from a druid with just decent blue gear

glad mason
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Wait is there even a reason to buy the game anymore now? Since normals doesn’t have gear restrictions anymore….

gloomy summit
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Geared normals are insanely boring

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It would just be oneshotting mobs, running down players who brought a green helmet and not getting a single upgrade

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If you don't own the game you only have one character slot, no trading and no shared stash

gloomy summit
junior hare
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the other day, i sniped a rat druid with a francisca axe from like 15m away KEKL

gloomy summit
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Highroller is a lot more enjoyable too now that the additional stats arent ridiculous

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Now if they make wizard not OP it could actually be fun 100% of the time

junior hare
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i'm so glad we can rearrange inventory while sitting now

tardy rain
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If I bought the game from the other launcher is that gonna carry over to Steam

tardy rain
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let me tetris dammit

dawn viper
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you cant do it rn tho

glad mason
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Anyone know when high roll season starts?

sour belfry
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I was also a bit miffed about not being able to rotate items in my inventory/stash

gloomy summit
glad mason
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any gamers? šŸ‘€

tardy rain
junior hare
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Goblin cave extraction map

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Forgotten Castle extraction map

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Inferno extraction map

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Frost Mountain extraction map

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Ice abyss extraction map

junior hare
gloomy summit
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Its funny how there is a record people dying in the dungeons with there being the most escapes available ever

sour belfry
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Lots of people who don't know how to play the game because they only started playing when it became free

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Makes sense to me rikkuShrug

atomic bronze
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I probably had a 600 gold run but I froze to death two steps away from the exit

glad mason
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rip

gloomy summit
sour belfry
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šŸ€ noropoint

gloomy summit
junior hare
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it's like they didn't learn their lesson with double jump

gloomy summit
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I imagine they'll nerf the momentum you keep from the panther dash once they figure out how to

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at least its loud so if you do it in response to hearing people they'll know you're there

junior hare
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do the forms passively make sound too while just sitting in them?

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i couldn't tell if the rat squeaks are just the environment or a druid

gloomy summit
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not passively as in you won't make noise standing still

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but moving and jumping will make ambient noise

dawn viper
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The size of the Shared Stash has been changed to the maximum size.
The cross-platform link function has been updated to function properly.

tardy rain
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@dawn viper ik I asked about whether steam's linked to the other launcher yet or not, but is it at least cross platform?

dawn viper
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I believe this is the steam link

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still 1 hr on maint tho

tardy rain
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oh fucking WORD

junior hare
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yeah that's the first thing i'm doing when it's up

junior hare
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FYI if you're trying to link your accounts, you need to GET YOUR CODE FROM BLACKSMITH first by logging into the game through blacksmith, going to options > platform

gloomy summit
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You should also be aware that it locks you out of the market (and I assume HR too) from the newly linked account for 72 hours

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can still access it on blacksmith fine but on steam I'm locked out of the market

tardy rain
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I have to spend time leveling anyways

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šŸ’€

gloomy summit
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They did a significant level crunch in the multiclass season

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3-4 good runs is enough to get level 20 now

junior hare
gloomy summit
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You should not be able to list items

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You can still buy items* I should have been more specific

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As of this hotfix its available to F2P players

junior hare
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I am able to list items

gloomy summit
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Damn fuck me in particular I guess

junior hare
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wait wtf

gloomy summit
junior hare
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I'm able to trade too

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try restarting your client

gloomy summit
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oh yeah its fine now

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thanks wizard

junior hare
gloomy summit
#

I'm trying to make copperlight attire for the tailor quest but they roll too well and I'm forced to sell them

junior hare
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I haven't seen any of this new gear type

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for like 3 wipes

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are grimsmile rings worth saving mats for?

gloomy summit
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Haven't played much HR last season but grimsmile rings have huge base stats

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I'd save some mats for them

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5 Strength + Luck and 3 additionals

junior hare
#

shiiiet okay

gloomy summit
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I made some for the free 10 strength and if they rolled huge stats you can resell them for a few k

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also free market tip

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people are being incredibly lazy rn

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and buying attires for 1500 flat

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to finish the quest

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quickest way to make money right now is play a class that gives you wanderer attire or occultist pants in common quality

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go mine copper ore and make an item worth 1500 out of it

junior hare
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where do you mine copper? I've only ever seen cobalt and gold nodes

gloomy summit
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damn you saw gold nodes before copper? gamer

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Copper has a few potential spawns in the mining module in the goblin caves

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top right

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with the bridge and scaffolding and guaranteed exit

junior hare
gloomy summit
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it used to be in the center too but I think they removed it, haven't seen any there this season

junior hare
#

what's the best thing to do with silver coins?

gloomy summit
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turn them in at the collector for the quest lmao

junior hare
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none of the silver stuff worth making?

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I've got like 500 silver i've just been holding

gloomy summit
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common ones for <25 gear score lobbies sure

junior hare
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ahh ok

gloomy summit
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I think silver weapons go up to blue? maybe even purple

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I think purple is where unique craftable items start so unlikely

tardy rain
junior hare
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ass

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name yourself like yeom byeong or something

gloomy summit
#

DaBaessist

sour belfry
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Can't pass the Scunthorpe test classic

tardy rain
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I'm just PainPek0

junior hare
glad mason
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squire allows you to get a free crossbow as a fighter šŸ™‚

gloomy summit
#

crossbows fell off

glad mason
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still a free like 30 damage on initiate

tardy rain
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so should I be an orc playing as a barb

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are barbs still good

gloomy summit
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barbarians are the best melee class right now

tardy rain
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barb mains stay winning

gloomy summit
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they thankfully gutted agility MS scaling but its still very easy to have a tanky high MS build

tardy rain
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I'm assuming they finally nerfed full plate fighters

gloomy summit
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that depends entirely when you last played

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Fighters fell off hard but plate got buffed this season

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I'm unsure what the current PDR cap is but its not 90% like 3 seasons ago

tardy rain
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that's the season I remember

gloomy summit
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oh yeah then you can say they got gutted

tardy rain
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so just stack as much movespeed on barb you say

gloomy summit
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Stack as much HP with Robust and Movementspeed, yeah

glad mason
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this is just from the mining room in goblin cave

junior hare
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75% cap pdr cap iirc

junior hare
#

quest items you'll need (unsure how accurate it is but it looks reasonably good)

- 1 health potion
- 1 protection potion
- 1 invisibility potion
- 11 intact skull
- 10 moldy bread
- 4 mimic tooth
- 6 cobalt ore
- 6 rubysilver ore
- 5 epic armor
- 9 old cloth
- 2 bowstring
- 3 rare crystal balls
- 1 rotten fluid
- 1 demon dog thorn
- 1 bat claw
- 10 goblin ear
- 1 bug shell
- 7 beetle wings
- 5 leather caps
- 5 bandages
- 1 copperlight attire
- 1 copperlight pants
- 3 enchanted dark fabric
- 1 spider silk
- 2 wendigo sharp claws
- 7 glowing blue ice eyes
- 5 ale
- 2 golden teeth
- 2 rusty broken sword
- 2 broken skull
- 4 bone
- 1 centaur hoof
- 15 primitive bracelet
- 2 ancient scroll
- 2 gold waterpot
- 2 gold crown
- 8 kobold ear
- 6 grave essence
- 4 wolf fang
- 4 wolf pelt
- 7 oil lantern
- 2 wendigo hoof
- 4 epic ancient scroll
- 4 epic gold waterpot
- 4 epic gold crown
- 1 yeti teeth
- 2 extra thick pelt
- 5 giant toe
- 5 ceremonial dagger
- 200 silver coin
- 1 bangle (rare quality)
- 1 gem (legendary quality)
- 1 cursed crown
- 5 rare weapons
- 6 gold ore
- 1 troll pelt
- 5 campfire kit
- 7 explosive bottle```
tardy rain
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when you turn in a epic rare piece of loot for a quest instead of selling it

tardy rain
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do I just hoard these

gloomy summit
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best loading screen

tardy rain
#

speaking of

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how tf does anyone hit druids as a mouse

gloomy summit
#

Molotovs

tardy rain
#

Where tf is stone graves a

junior hare
glad mason
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is there a reason copper is so much more expensive than cobalt even though cobalt gear is better?

gloomy summit
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Because copper gear is better

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Movementspeed % > Armor Pen

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And demand for quest progress

tardy rain
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@junior hare they're fixing that portal location

tardy rain
#

I feel like I've hit every single room now, but where tf is stone graves a in goblin cave @dawn viper

dawn viper
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idk brother

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just run around

junior hare
vocal tendon
#

evil anus

dawn viper
#

just play druid with basic strength gear and 1 shot everyone

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anyone with a dagger can hug you but cant hit your hitbox

gloomy summit
#

Rogues stay losing

gloomy summit
gloomy summit
atomic bronze
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Despairm man fighter sprint does suck

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played against a wizard that knew what he was doing and got shit on

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also the one time I find cobalt is the time I didn't bring a pickaxe with me SadCri

gloomy summit
#

sprint got gutted (deservedly) and is not worth bringing anymore

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I like breakthrough, it only has 12 seconds downtime and makes you immune to any slows

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including the slow from getting hit

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Also not a single melee class in the game can beat a warlock/wizard that know what they're doing

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Only counter is ranger and you better not miss any shots

junior hare
#

might be able to 1-shot with windlass now

gloomy summit
#

The longbow buff is giving me a headache

junior hare
#

time to melee multishot as ranger again

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what comp are yall running for trios usually?

gloomy summit
#

cleric barbarian and + whatever I feel like playing

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ideally it would be warlock but I don't enjoy playing it

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so it ends up being bard or druid

junior hare
gloomy summit
#

cleric still king of healing because druid has no scaling on spells because ???

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so druid is pure utility for stopping pushes or splitting enemies

junior hare
#

what's the cleric spell loadout?

gloomy summit
#

lesser heal big heal protection

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sanctuary divine strike

junior hare
#

didn't expect strike

gloomy summit
#

divine strike gets exchanged with earthquake depending on comp

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brother divine strikes is like ranged 50+ damage with gear

junior hare
#

wtf, jesus

gloomy summit
#

unless I confused the name

junior hare
#

holy strike?

gloomy summit
#

not the +5 damage skill

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yeh

junior hare
#

ahhh ok

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does he ever go double spell mem, or is judgment too good?

gloomy summit
#

other skill is smite

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8 base magic damage per hit that scales with will, magic damage and HS multiplier

junior hare
#

oh interesting, i'll have to try that

gloomy summit
#

and since no one has mres

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its basically true damage

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I'm flipping Windlass, Longbows and Gold Ore the moment the servers go up

junior hare
#

i can finally double boss in gc

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got 50 gold ore

gloomy summit
#

they changed the gold ore quest to ingots so I assume the idea was not gating the quest behind learning both bosses

junior hare
#

oh NO

gloomy summit
#

so I expect the gold price to shoot up

junior hare
#

can you craft grim smile yet?

gloomy summit
#

Unsure

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All crypt maps we played didn't spawn the dark library tile

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so we're still on step 1

junior hare
#

i havent played in like 3 wipes so i'm still catching up on a lot

gloomy summit
#

progress got changed a bit so who knows

#

still seeing if craftable purples are here yet or not

#

we're on the final weaponsmith step

junior hare
#

i regret not buying more wolf pelts

#

i see extra thick pelts more often than wolf pelts as drops

#

seems weird given it's a rare

gloomy summit
#

always been like this somehow

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seems like the droprate is more accurate as normal>rare>uncommon>epic

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the wendigo claw step was impossible last season

#

two quests needed them, we finished neither as a group

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TIME TO FLIP

junior hare
#

go go go

gloomy summit
#

BRO

#

HOW AM I LATE

junior hare
#

LOL

gloomy summit
#

ITS OVER

junior hare
gloomy summit
#

brother

junior hare
#

CLARITIES

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jesus christ you gotta farm an entire garden for just one

#

wait they dont even work while mobile, you have to sit

gloomy summit
#

good

#

its what made them op

#

infinite spellcasting at no drawback

gloomy summit
#

gold prices are skydiving in real time

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but I had 30 ore saved up

#

made like 12k

junior hare
#

skyrocketing or skydiving

atomic bronze
#

Despairm Rocketing

gloomy summit
#

diving

atomic bronze
#

wait I checked twice and they were double the second time I checked

#

did it go down that fast?

junior hare
#

it was like 90g last night, then went to 200g each when servers were up, now they're at ~140ish

gloomy summit
#

it was 50g per ore

#

it went 200g after patch

#

went to 150 in less than 30 minutes

junior hare
#

good run

gloomy summit
#

people are playing ranger again so purple spears are also going up

gloomy summit
#

playing 5 characters I keep forgetting to collect the stuff I sell

tropic furnace
#

I only just found out that you needed to collect your sale earlier today. šŸ˜…
Was a nice little boost in gold though.

gloomy summit
#

new grimsmiles

junior hare
#

my craziest haul yet

junior hare
#

@manic verge

gloomy summit
#

I can't believe sdf finally admitted warlock is op

junior hare
#

me and my 18 coin bags are surprised pikachu rn

gloomy summit
#

I love dying to someone I can't run after, takes away 1/3 of my health with an infinite spell, and just presses phantomize if they do a misplay so they aren't punishable

manic verge
#

Lmao me on fighter chasing bards and ranger

gloomy summit
#

Interact with golden door has been changed to turn in two golden keys handled

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They shot up 600%, time to sell before the bubble bursts

junior hare
#

dayum

junior hare
#

i've got 24 coin bags now geegaPien

gloomy summit
#

hope you're working towards your gold chest

junior hare
#

I haven't been running HR yet donkSad

junior hare
#

the bangle quest really killed me

#

those are all blues and purps

gloomy summit
#

if you have alts can be a good to way make some massive money from the free gold key

#

I have been gambling on the goblin merchant every chance I get and I am decently in the plus

#

trying to get that artifact drop

junior hare
#

wait you can get artifacts from goblin gamba?

gloomy summit
#

yes

junior hare
gloomy summit
#

Unfortunate about the will

junior hare
#

is that not ideal for clerics?

#

i also got this one

gloomy summit
#

its an ok sub-stat

#

All casters want Knowledge for casting speed

manic verge
#

What do you guys think of this

gloomy summit
#

+10 gorillion gold

#

regular green lightfoot with +5 sells for 500

manic verge
#

im selling it for 1800 rn

gloomy summit
#

me on my way to be utterly CRINGE in HR

junior hare
#

warhammer geegaWoah

junior hare
#

gold shot back up, did something change?

gloomy summit
#

last week of quests unlock in a few hours

junior hare
#

ohhh

gloomy summit
#

means gold equipment and I believe a few select gold weapons exist too?

#

two seasons ago it was insanely busted (like +3 all attributes baseline cape) but it was heavily nerfed last season

#

remains to be seen what stat they'll have this time

#

because grimsmile having 3 vigor 2 strength is already dumb

junior hare
#

look they're fwends

gloomy summit
#

Me when I kill both bosses in goblin caves

#

I have made too much money today

#

all the juicers came out in normals to grind quests

#

Its not selling fast enough

#

my stash is crying

#

also the market is being flooded with grimsmile rings

#

they go as low as 400g

junior hare
#

hit a god roll

glad mason
#

i didnt even think you could get move bonus and add move speed on the same item

gloomy summit
#

a pair of lightfoot boots with +5 added and move % will set you for the rest of the wipe money-wise

junior hare
#

I auto ape every bard and cleric I see

#

literally every single one that says they're friendly always ends up trying to backstab

#

I would've thought it'd be barbs who did that

gloomy summit
#

one warlock set (-lightfoot boots) that I'm undercutting the market with

gloomy summit
#

God I'm so mad the devs broke shadowplay for this game

#

I had the funniest shit ever happen to me

#

I was chasing down a ranger who was terrified of me (rightfully so, I took 60% off his health with one Judgement)

#

An enemy team opens a door in front of him, he shouts in Proximity chat HELP ME HELP ME PLEASE

#

He runs into them, they close the door behind him

#

Then I hear a muffled "thank you thank you"

#

followed by the sound of being stabbed to death

#

I was in fucking shambles

junior hare
#

LOL

#

124 lobbies are the most fun i've had in this game

gloomy summit
#

it made the gear bracket above also more fun because the chance of running into geared people is higher

#

no longer will timmy who is DYING to bring his green leather cap into the dungeon take a up a slot in the geared lobby

junior hare
#

how's the population in HR lobbies?

#

and are there actual cosmetic rewards other than borders for hitting higher ranks?

gloomy summit
#

dunno one friend HATES HR so we're never going there

#

its seasonal rewards per rank

#

first three are worthless, starting at t4 you get cosmetic rewards

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last season was frost walker, which had +3 HP and -1,5 Action Speed, an Ice torch that I don't use because it hurts my eyes, an icey campfire skin and frozen bottle reskins

gloomy summit
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They have for the first time not done a weekly hotfix so its likely they're cooking something bigger at the moment

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maybe arena in 1-2 days

gloomy summit
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I'm shitposting on Cleric

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No weapon, just a shield

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Judgment, Smite

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fist people for 21 magic damage

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if they unsheathe weapon walk away and judgement for 60 damage

junior hare
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jesus christ that's a fast holy boi

gloomy summit
manic verge
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Is this worth

gloomy summit
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weapon damage always

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thanks goblin merchant

manic verge
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Nice gamba

gloomy summit
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So I predicted spider silk will shoot up in price with the new craftables today

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So I invested

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and lo

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there are now only 3 spider silk left on the market

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šŸ“ˆ

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and I bought at 50-100g

manic verge
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Sounds like im gonna be winning some moneys

junior hare
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spider silk was so hard for me to find that my quest completion for it came from looting it from a player xdd

junior hare
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whoa first time getting troll's blood from both cyclops and troll in the same run

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the enemy body loot time increase is insane

manic verge
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Yes it super is

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I killed a barb earlier and it's like I had to lure him on a wall to wall for him to die

gloomy summit
junior hare
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i've been a busy boi

junior hare
manic verge
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Goodness oshi you've been really busy LOL

gloomy summit
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Just ran into three games in a row with Russians and Chinese teaming in HR Ice Cavern

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Opened the Pyramid Room, suddenly Mandarin yelling

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we actually won that fight, but the Russians were 4 Barbarians in full gold and 2 clerics

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Evacuated those lobbies immediately

gloomy summit
gloomy summit
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Ive been big braining AP gains

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I keep buying trash legendary items and drop them in the lobby for people to pick up

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they turn looted and give +20 AP per slot

junior hare
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i thought they stayed handled Thonk

gloomy summit
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Items you loot from enemy players turn looted

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we tested this, usually a squire gear rogue comes and scoops everything up

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then we hunt them down

junior hare
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LMAO

gloomy summit
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legendary ozerants run 150 gold

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I fit three into my inventory

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its 6x20 AP

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Need to test if this works with royal gems

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so I can go get that gold chest already

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I'm considering gambling on Froststone ore

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the quests for it should unlock in 80 minutes

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IF there is 6th week of quests coming now

junior hare
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godspeed if you do

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is 1k their usual price for a stack?

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could've sworn it was 500 last week

gloomy summit
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1k per ore

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so 5k for a stack

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idk what the price was I have not kept up with it

junior hare
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oh yeah it definitely already shot up then

gloomy summit
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man you can easily make some money if you just camp the market frontpage

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someone put this up for 90

gloomy summit
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the new quests don't look like they'll unlock anything

manic verge
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Dayyyym

gloomy summit
gloomy summit
gloomy summit
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Defeating the Undead with the power of alcoholism

silent hornet
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Anyone got any spare explosives? aPES_LulExplode

junior hare
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i can give you some if you need xdd

junior hare
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go to trade

silent hornet
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im in the trade geegaSalute

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ah wait gimmie sec.. forgot to empty inventory xdd

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aight im back to trade geegaSalute

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Is that all the explosives? PauseChamp

junior hare
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i'm keeping a couple but yeah that's all i got

silent hornet
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Thank you good sir aethellove69

gloomy summit
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Average Jolly Time enjoyer

junior hare
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jesus you need FOUR?