#💾⠂Hardware & PC Building

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nimble ingot
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??

sand geyser
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unless you wanna move around games 24/7 or only play like 3

nimble ingot
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i didn t ckecked but it should be alright, both are fine tbh

icy frigate
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okay, dope

nimble ingot
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and you can still get a nvme

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random writes are insane, and iops

icy frigate
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And what about the 1500 PSU? Is 1500 watts necessary?

sand geyser
sand geyser
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i'd get an 80+ platinum psu with the money saved from not buying a 4tb 990 pro

icy frigate
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so what SSD should i get then if not the 4TB 990 pro?

sand geyser
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2tb 990 pro

nimble ingot
sand geyser
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used or new?

nimble ingot
icy frigate
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i mean, whether i get a 2tb ot 2tb 990, it comes up to the same price lol

sand geyser
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that's more reasonable but still way tooo expensive

nimble ingot
nimble ingot
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second hand

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but new

sand geyser
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just get a single 990 pro and upgrade when necessary

nimble ingot
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not the garbo nvme shit

sand geyser
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i'm not denying it, but it's so damn overkill

nimble ingot
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p1600x is still faster than any nvme

sand geyser
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like if you want faster storage it's cheaper to buy more ram for more cache

nimble ingot
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yes 116gb but like 40 bucks

icy frigate
nimble ingot
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why ?

icy frigate
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i suppose i could get the Corsair HX1500i (2022)

nimble ingot
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also optane as insane endurance

sand geyser
nimble ingot
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?

icy frigate
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Sorry, i don't even know what optane is. Forgive my ignorance lol

sand geyser
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i've had my main ssd for 1.5 years and it's at 20tbw/98% (kc3000 1tb)

nimble ingot
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shit wont die also has perfect performance whenit s full or not

sand geyser
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my other ssd that I've had for 6 years is at 35tbw/77% (mx500 500gb)

nimble ingot
sand geyser
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it's amazing but honestly if you're not an enterprise user it's barely worth it

nimble ingot
sand geyser
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at the time it was an amazing mid range ssd

nimble ingot
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price did increase ?

sand geyser
nimble ingot
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i wanted to get some for my ps4 and parents laptop

sand geyser
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i bought my m.2 sata mx500 500gb for like 100€ i think 6 yrs ago

nimble ingot
nimble ingot
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i also need one for my xbox 360

sand geyser
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notice the 6 years ago part, it was like semi budget at the time

nimble ingot
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it s still the best sata ssd

sand geyser
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84€

nimble ingot
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bx500 is shit tho

sand geyser
nimble ingot
sand geyser
nimble ingot
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sata m.2

sand geyser
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sata m.2 is sata with a different connector,

nimble ingot
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i was refering to the big ol mx500

sand geyser
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big ol mx500 is identical no?

nimble ingot
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not sure, no

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mx500 icomes with drams

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yours is dram less ?

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at that price, m.2 are usually dram lesss

icy frigate
sand geyser
icy frigate
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Quite a few combability notes:
Note: Fan compatibility checking is currently not supported.

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Note: Some AMD X670E chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update to fully utilize 24 GB RAM modules.

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Note: The Corsair HX1500i (2022) 1500 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply length of 200mm is within the Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case maximum of 255mm, but exceeds the recommended length of 155mm. Please verify that the connector locations on the power supply will not interfere with the structure of the case.

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Note: The video card PCIe 16-pin power connector adapter is being supplied by three 6+2-pin power connectors. Please ensure that the three 6+2-pin power connectors are not daisy-chained and do not share the same power cable.

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Note: Unable to verify the Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case has sufficient mounting depth to support the MSI SUPRIM LIQUID X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card 240 mm radiator.

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Disclaimer: Some physical constraints are not checked, such as RAM clearance with CPU Coolers.

nimble ingot
sand geyser
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cba testing writes

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it's almost full

nimble ingot
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not bad

nimble ingot
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would save some bucks

sand geyser
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but afaik m.2 mx500 is identical to 2.5" mx500, both sata

nimble ingot
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hmm

sand geyser
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95k IOPS supposedly

nimble ingot
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i can fond 2tb mx500 for 120€ new sexond hand

icy frigate
sand geyser
maiden hull
nimble ingot
sand geyser
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you might not need

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there's a chance it might block something stupid like 3.5" drive slots

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with your budget, there's no reason to have a 3.5" drive

icy frigate
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lmaoo, true

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Let me look at a blueprint of the case

sand geyser
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o11 dynamic is a beautiful case

nimble ingot
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for that price i would get a floppy disk reader

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we never know

nimble ingot
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❤️

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but i don t like case, usually useless

icy frigate
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okay, o11 dynamic it is

maiden hull
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How DARE you SELECT a CASE!

YOU ARE LIMITING AIRFLOW!!!

nimble ingot
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true

maiden hull
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totally not using a case rn

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totally

nimble ingot
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you don t need fĂ s with an open cse setup

sand geyser
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i camed

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0ms response time is so nice to see

maiden hull
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I have a few 3.5" drives I should get rid of on my main setup

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they're just spinning for no reason

nimble ingot
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task manager is not reliable

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and over all buggy

sand geyser
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pcie 4 ssd on pcie 3

maiden hull
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1s gonna disconnect these drives

sand geyser
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165k read IOPS

nimble ingot
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optane is 500k

icy frigate
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I know the msi GPU is in stock, but the 4090 FE is like 700$ cheaper

nimble ingot
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gen5 is 1 million

nimble ingot
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then go for it

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fe pcb is better than most cheap ass 4090

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but cooling might be an issue

icy frigate
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oh really?

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how bad is the coolio compared to the msi gpu?

sand geyser
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up to 450k lol

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@nimble ingot q32t16 is kinda cheating but hey

nimble ingot
icy frigate
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That is still a lot, ngl

nimble ingot
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what preset is that

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65c in games vs 55c

sand geyser
nimble ingot
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peek performance preset is bad get real world

icy frigate
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is the 990 pro 4tb the best ssd for the value and perofrmance or are there better options out there?

nimble ingot
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the best

sand geyser
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2 ssds can be a better value

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if you get like a 2tb 990 pro and 4tb some other slightly worse ssd

icy frigate
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and what is the need for 48GB of ram again?

sand geyser
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what is the need for a 4090?

icy frigate
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Because

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Money

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but isn't 32 GB enough?

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Does RAM increase frames and overall performance?

sand geyser
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if you have enough of it, it doesn't matter how much extra you have

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BUT, all modern OSes use RAM as disk cache when you have extrea

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but with a 990 pro it won't matter anyways

icy frigate
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so then i shouldn't need 48 GB is what i'm hearing

sand geyser
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not now probably

icy frigate
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32 GB should be sufficient enough

sand geyser
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if you only game

icy frigate
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yeah, right now i only intend to game

sand geyser
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you can always upgrade later on

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maybe get faster ram instead

nimble ingot
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48gb because of thr memory ic used

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m die second hen is better than a die

icy frigate
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can you explain that in words that i can understand lol. I'm not a pc nerd yet haha

nimble ingot
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the chips used in the ram

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not all ram are equal

sand geyser
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the chips in the 24gb sticks are faster

nimble ingot
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some scales better with coltages etc

icy frigate
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ohh, isee

maiden hull
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My 2 2 TB hard drives have been fully decommissioned

They will either be repurposed for a NAS, or will be physically destroyed

nimble ingot
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no

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gimme

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don t break them

obsidian lion
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why break them wtflip

dull jacinth
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usually done when health is low

obsidian lion
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secure erase

dull jacinth
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can't really do that if your hard drives are nearly dead

obsidian lion
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if he is gonna repurpose them for a nas i doubt they are low health

dull jacinth
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idk why destroy then

maiden hull
# dull jacinth idk why destroy then

The hard drives are not being used anymore as it has been completely been replaced by my SSD external storage

The hard drives have been spinning for no reason other than to just be alive, as waste of use. Power plans can reduce the uptime but that only goes so far

I do not sell any storage drives unless they were never in contact with my systems. If I have no use for an obsolete drive, I erase, then destroy

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I’m aware that SSDs are limited in writes before anyone is like “but Tellinq you should be using the hard drives for long term storage you’re wasting writes!!!” No I’m really not. Even so, the SSDs I use will last me way longer than any hard drive will. I don’t write terabytes of data each day. By the end, the hard drives would die first at the rate I’m using them

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These drives were originally intended to be used for video storage. However, my hard drives eventually became a bottleneck.

I did eventually directly record to my SSD (which was 512 GB before I upgraded), and then set up a schedule to transfer my videos before my system shut down, but even that became a waste of time

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So eventually the hard drives became a place for long term storage, but then traveling became a matter when I started my college semester. I instead opted to use an external drive as that was easily more obtainable for me

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Which brings me to now - the drives serve absolutely no purpose than to be a slow alternative to storage. I haven’t had a need for them for almost a year, but never took them out

velvet isle
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I use your messages to build my reading endurance

dull jacinth
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LMFAO

strong sky
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I use his messages to practice skimming large texts

maiden hull
strong sky
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As long as I have good comprehension I'm just being efficient

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If I don't have a good idea what you are saying then I do read the whole thing

maiden hull
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Fair enough

lone jackal
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I’m the best skimmer in the world

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Even if it’s only one sentence I don’t read it fully

tulip sage
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gonna try push pull on my gpu aio

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hopefully its not too fat

tulip sage
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ignore rainbow puke its default.

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HAHAHA

lone jackal
lone jackal
maiden hull
tulip sage
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which controller

lone jackal
tulip sage
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thats my ram.

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TOO MANY LIGHTS AGAGGGGHHHHHH

maiden hull
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@tulip sage how are the TL non LCD fans? I heard they’re very similar to the P28 and I wanna get the TL non LCD variants as that has a 140mm version

maiden hull
tulip sage
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tbh theyvhavent grown on me much

maiden hull
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But however what confuses me

tulip sage
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but i think its cus my case covers them

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so i dont rly see the infinity part

maiden hull
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Aren’t the lights for everything else connected to a HUB?

tulip sage
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the lcd ones are in the open and are beautiful

lone jackal
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Is ur pfp dantes and his bro

tulip sage
lone jackal
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W

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I couldn’t see don’t have contacts in

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Thought it was

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Bro I need to get some magestical colour contacts

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My eyes r blue but imagine I had like Gojo satoru ass eyes

maiden hull
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@tulip sage for the LCD and non LCD version did you have to use two separate hubs or do they use the same one?

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I saw that you had to have different ones but when I checked on Amazon for the controller itself it seemed to be okay with one

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OH EXCELLENT

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The problem I have with Lian-li’s approach with fan cluster is that while the RGB is independent, the fan PWM signal is duplicated

Well.. kinda

See lian li is a bit smart where the middle fan section doesn’t hold the exact same RPM to reduce resonance, but that’s only good for setups that only need one RPM chain

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Good for radiator setups

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For front intake… not so much

tulip sage
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guys

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im actually quite worried abt my ram

tulip sage
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however SL-INF120 and TL120 cannot use the same hub

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tl-led and tl-lcd can share

maiden hull
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Ahh

maiden hull
tulip sage
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oh

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i just made it white and it stopped flickering

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i jus had to open gskill

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for some rzn it bugged

maiden hull
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Oh ffs gskill

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Wait why do you need THAT software for lighting that’s controlled by the motherboard

tulip sage
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cus

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i dont wanna download armory crate...

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LOL

maiden hull
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Ah yes Armory Crate

tulip sage
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wiat im dumb

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i forgot i downloaded standalone aura

maiden hull
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Yeah that works too

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But last I used in 2019 it was HELLA lackluster

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When there was Synapse integration I was all for it

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Thankfully OpenRGB dwarfs that

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I had to make my own fork of OpenRGB to get my Deathstalker working as they didn’t have the TKL variant supported

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But the full size was

tulip sage
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its so aids tho

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making white is SO HARD

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CUS IT RESETS ITSELF

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nvm got it

maiden hull
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RPM mode comes in huge clutch

strong sky
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fancontrol my beloved ❤️

maiden hull
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Shame it’s Windows only

strong sky
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ik

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im almost entirely done with windows

maiden hull
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I recently went back to Windows…. Again

strong sky
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the only time I need to boot into windows is for 1 class

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I also wish matlab didn't suck on linux tho

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(probably a wayland issue tbf)

tulip sage
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does anyone have experience with l-connect 3

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i cant make my fans share the same effect

maiden hull
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Never used it

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I personally only like interfacing on FanControl and OpenRGB

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that’s it

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Tho tbf for your case now that you have SCREENS

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guess that’s not feasible

tulip sage
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LOL

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yea

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lemme show u what i mean

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rip

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no iphone embed.

maiden hull
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The Phanteks fans are what I want to replace

tulip sage
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4 sticks so pretty

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sometimes i wanna go itx just to have my ram sticks next to each other

maiden hull
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Their PR requirements are a bit weird so I didn’t want to make one

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Looks like someone already made a PR for it anyways so I should be good

tulip sage
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yep i dont regret this purchase def a W to me

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def gonna look into an lcd for the cpu block cus i dont like the tint of white that it has

maiden hull
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I really want to get 4 TL140mm but not sure how much of a difference it’ll make against the Phanteks SK140 I have

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Either way my temps are fine

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The main issue I have is that my SK140 bearings have an audible rattle like sound

maiden hull
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Been nice having the hard drives unplugged

Quieter now, less drives to check for bootable media so slightly faster POST timings

sand geyser
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How did you replace the storage?

maiden hull
trail moss
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why did you even have them plugged in them

maiden hull
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Just in case I ever decided to use them

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Which didn’t end up happening

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So it was more of a waste

trail moss
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just store them in a drawer or something

maiden hull
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Refer to this #1082628292349284382 message

maiden hull
trail moss
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ah good

maiden hull
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For long term storage I already have my 4 TB bootable external M.2 SSD

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I migrated to that a few months ago

trail moss
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"By the end, the hard drives would die first at the rate I’m using them"

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but dont hard drives die mostly due to run time rather than usage

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@maiden hull

trail moss
maiden hull
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Uptime

trail moss
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ahh got it

maiden hull
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When I said by the rate I’m using them - I meant by very little

trail moss
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i c i c

maiden hull
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I don’t always need to put stuff to my SSD

So really my SSD would last me longer

trail moss
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i thought you meant like heavy reads and writes

maiden hull
maiden hull
trail moss
maiden hull
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Unless the head decided to spin like no tomorrow

maiden hull
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Used as Ventoy and data combined

trail moss
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nice

maiden hull
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Only caveat is that the system you use MUST support an NVME controller

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Otherwise it’ll never be detected despite interfacing with USB

trail moss
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oh yeah i actually saw linus talking about that once

maiden hull
trail moss
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yeah definitely

maiden hull
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I have a lot of old CDs that I should rip to the drives

trail moss
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install plex and download some blurays ig

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ye

maiden hull
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It’s not piracy if I own the CDs and DVDs!!

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Think Smart, don’t fall for the lies of Big Media.

trail moss
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true

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streaming services are a scam

maiden hull
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I hate that Disney+ borked the Microsoft Store app to use the PWA version

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So now it’s all forced at 720p

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Just like Netflix…

trail moss
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oh wow streaming services actively trying to degrade the user experience to steal even more money

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what a surprise

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i am sure nobody saw this coming

maiden hull
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I expected it to eventually happen, just caught me off guard WHEN they did it

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Fortunately I’m not the one paying for Disney+, my parents are as they use it and gracefully let me join in

But they watch it on an actual TV that benefits so it’s not a big deal for them

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I also have a tv in my own bedroom but I prefer watching on my ultrawide

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I only have a 1080p tv and prefer my 3440x1440 monitor but whatever

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Now it’s pointless due to stupid DRM

trail moss
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i have a plex media server which i ripped 4k blurays to and just use plex on my parent's tv or just directly access it through explorer on my sisters laptop which is 2560x1600 and hdr

velvet isle
trail moss
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dayum

tulip sage
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pretty much finished product gang

strong sky
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Looks sick, nice work!

tulip sage
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tyty

maiden hull
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Really clean

main flume
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is it this new case

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uhh

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the one with wires to the back

strong sky
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you mean back facing power connectors?

maiden hull
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Yeah no that’s just the Hyte Y60

tulip sage
strong sky
tulip sage
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true

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i see ppl just cutting their cases for it

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LOOO

strong sky
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lmao

tulip sage
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no clue what he meant either dw

main flume
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i wrote that half asleep alright

maiden hull
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Chat should I get a case to downsize this ATX build?

tulip sage
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nope

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infact get a BIGGER one

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like short guys in boosted trucks

maiden hull
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Oh dear

strong sky
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I mean personally I wouldn't bother unless it was an actual issue

maiden hull
strong sky
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In that case, go for it

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I'm looking into building an itx system for myself

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Seems convenient for the dorm setup

maiden hull
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Yeah it’s practical

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Unless you want to eGPU

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But it’s kinda pointless for PCIe gen 4 devices

granite pollen
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performance isnt bad either

maiden hull
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He has a laptop with a solid cpu (13700H I think?)

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Just not the GPU

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He could just eGPU with his 2070 super since that’s still PCIe gen. 3

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Wouldn’t be as bottlenecked as the PCIe gen 4 cards

main flume
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i have decided my next setup will be an itx with am5

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wish i had money LMAO

maiden hull
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Oh really? I’m skipping AM5 entirely!

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@pale coral how recent have you dealt with AM5 at Microcenter? Are you able to comment on their current stability (or lack thereof if that’s still a problem)?

pale coral
maiden hull
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Hmmm

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If that’s the case I won’t worry about recommending AM5 so long as they update the UEFI

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same goes with LGA 1700

pale coral
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Though never get ryzen 9 for 7000 series if you game more then anything else

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I’m still on am4 even after building lga1700 and am5 computers cause the 5800x3D with good B-die gives you on par gaming performance with bloated windows running intel or amd newer CPU’s that are running stock

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5800x3D runs 600-800 optimized Valorant max settings at 1440p, 7950 or 7900 gives you about 100 fps less all be it cause they aren’t monolith die

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And if you go intel, turn off all p cores to get more fps or it just ties with the 5800 if u leave them on

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Assuming u running stock xmp on all the setups

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Unless you play tarkov or cod then intel p cores off the way to go cause of amd dip

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@ me with any further questions going to bed

strong sky
maiden hull
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I know with e cores you can toggle it in the UEFI via scroll lock if you turn on Legacy Game Compatibility

main flume
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uhh

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maybe then not am5

maiden hull
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?

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Are you scared of updating the UEFI?

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Don’t be a Cead

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Be a Tellinq

pale coral
trail moss
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is this a sign that my hdd is dying?

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this was me trying to move a bunch of photos from my ssd to my hdd

restive ridge
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@sand geyser ^

main flume
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for me shi was happening from thje very beginning

sand geyser
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perfectly normal

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windows + hdd cache actually

trail moss
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Oh alr 👍🏾

long depot
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My build is done and it’s all connected because I see the cpu cooler and gpu lighting up but I’m not getting a display? I’m trying to install windows but I genuinely can’t boot into bios even

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The hdmi is connected to gpu

restive ridge
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(power on self test)

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it just means the getting the monitor to actually display something

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the thing i forgot for my first build was to connect the CPU pins on the motherboard

maiden hull
long depot
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And I just finished the post troubleshooting

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Cable management is a mess I know

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I’ll work on it

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I just want to get the first boot running

grand dragon
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you should have debugging leds next to the ram slots

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on the right side

long depot
maiden hull
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Which is why I use speakers

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@long depot there’s your issue

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You need to plug in your PCIe cables in those two 8 pins

long depot
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I did

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But I forgot to take a pic after it

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Just a sec

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I have the hdmi on mobo rn anyways

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Until I reach bios

maiden hull
trail moss
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^

maiden hull
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Even changing the display out mid post won’t help your case

long depot
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Bios doesn’t need an igpu

trail moss
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no display is usually ram issue

maiden hull
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Once it finds a VGA output, it’ll stick with that and won’t reinitialize until you restart the PC

maiden hull
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You can’t assume that

trail moss
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well it is the most common usually

maiden hull
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I’ve actually found way more common reasons than RAM

trail moss
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oh i c

maiden hull
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it’s usually a fault from you

trail moss
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most pcs that dont get a display that ive gotten was solved through just reseating the ram

grand dragon
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bios wise it should be fine without any updates

maiden hull
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Also that GPU sag hurts

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Not that it should stop it from posting

long depot
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Aside from the horrid cable management does something seem off?

maiden hull
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But I’ve seen instances where it can

long depot
long depot
trail moss
grand dragon
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have you tried using just one ram stick?

maiden hull
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That CPU 8 pin connector isn’t all the way in by the way

Close to being in is not in

long depot
maiden hull
long depot
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I think it is

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Just a sec

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I’ll double check

maiden hull
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You can still have some pins making contact but not all

long depot
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Good enough?

trail moss
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also did you check if any thermal paste went inside the socket of the cpu?

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that can cause improper contact at times

maiden hull
# long depot

As long as the clip on that cable clicked, it’s fine

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Looks good enough now

long depot
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I don’t think it’s a cpu issue either because when I tried reseating the cpu after a boot it burned my finger

long depot
maiden hull
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Can I see a visual on what the clip side looks like right now?

long depot
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Clip side?

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The right?

maiden hull
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Ye

trail moss
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or try and put the 1080 into another system and see if it boots

long depot
long depot
trail moss
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so no igpu

long depot
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Bios doesn’t need igpu

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It’s fine

trail moss
long depot
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Oh what? That’s a new fact

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Will switch to gpu hdmi

trail moss
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lol

long depot
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Still

maiden hull
trail moss
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well if theres heat from the cpu it might be a gpu issue

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if you have another cpu which is the same socket which has an igpu try it with that

long depot
#

Gpu fans are working and it’s lighting up

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So I assume no

long depot
#

Unfortunately I don’t

trail moss
#

do you have another pc with you?

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try and put the 1080 in that

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or take it to a friend's house and put it in their system and try it ig

maiden hull
#

Yeah at this point the best you can do is reseat, and then swap out hardware with someone who can

tulip sage
#

sheesh

maiden hull
#

But don’t assume anything, despite the symptoms

Even if something appears as healthy, you can’t trust that until you verify that all components work in the POST -> Boot -> Use cycle

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Lighting does not indicate that a part is fine

CPU heat doesn't mean that the CPU is fine

Motherboard giving power to parts does not indicate that the motherboard is fine

PSU giving power doesn't mean that the PSU is fine

RAM being seated all the way doesn't mean that it's fine

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If you want a better indication, get a PC speaker if you can't take the PC anywhere else for a hardware swap

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@long depot last thing I can think of is swapping the RAM stick to the first slot instead of the second

Yes, it can make a difference if the memory channel on either the CPU or motherboard doesn't work

long depot
#

Oh my god

long depot
#

But also

#

After all this time

#

I just found out my power led isn’t connected

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Im finally getting beeps

maiden hull
#

what's the frequency of it? (send a video)

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the frequency will indicate what's wrong

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pretty sure the quicker it is, the problem will lie in the earlier checks

long depot
#

Googling it rn

maiden hull
#

hold I got a manual to check for it

long depot
#

It’s infinitely short no?

restive ridge
#

ye i'd consider that rapid

maiden hull
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A. Power LED flashes quickly after power on, flashing 4 times per second (no memory or memory error)

B. Power LED flashes slowly after power on, flashing once every 2 seconds (no VGA card or VGA card error)

C. The Power LED flashes super slowly, the light is on for 4 seconds, and the light is off for 4 seconds (no boot device or boot device error)

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that's how ASUS blink codes will work

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so yeah it's gonna have to be memory related

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either memory channel

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memory contact

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or just bad module

long depot
#

So replace ram first?

maiden hull
#

Can you take the slot out and send pics of the module on both sides, as well as the slots

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just wanna see if I can see any obvious interference

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then yeah

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i would start replacing RAM

long depot
#

I took out both ram stick and still nothing

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Oh my god this is a pain in the ass icl

pale coral
# long depot

Can you make sure this wire isn’t upside down cause it’s suppose to click in and from this picture I don’t see a clip on the motherboard side where it plugs into only on the power cable, if it slides out without having to un clip this has been the cause of your issue

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Also bios will always prioritize gpu over Igpu for bios output, so either way always have hemi plugged into gpu for best first boot outcome

trail moss
#

well if it is upside down then the mobo should be fried by now right?

pale coral
#

No

pale coral
#

Motherboard gets it’s power from 24pin

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The 6-8 pin is if u wanna overclock cpu

trail moss
#

ahh i c

pale coral
#

So everything will get power but cpu won’t do nothing

trail moss
#

👍🏾

pale coral
#

That’s also why to come ppl it’ll look like a ram issue

trail moss
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but he said that when he tried to take it out he burnt his fingers cuz the cpu was hot

pale coral
#

😭 trust ppl bring their computers in after failing to build their own pc at work, it’s a free scam bro when it’s just one wire we have to flip and make ez $50-$200 off em

trail moss
#

lmfaoo

pale coral
#

Micro center policies charged just for the check up but still it be funny

trail moss
#

do you get commissions for the pcs you fix?

pale coral
#

Cpu gets most of it’s tdp from the motherboard, but if the wire is upside down you’ll get a ground loop that makes it go into safe mode

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It’s just safe to check especially if everything lights but unresponsive

trail moss
#

ahh alr

pale coral
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Idk about you but in 99% of ppl’s computers the clip on the top left is supposed to be facing the case not the motherboard

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😭 either that or I’m remembering wrong but I don’t think so

trail moss
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lol i dont remember either

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i didnt even know you could plug it upside down because i thought the molding of the housing wouldnt let you do that

pale coral
#

An extra lga 1200

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Comes with 2

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And facing upwards

trail moss
#

ohh

pale coral
#

The clips almost always ontop

maiden hull
#

@pale coral doesn’t the EPS cable upside down just not fit?

trail moss
#

^

maiden hull
#

Last I tried it just would never fit in

trail moss
#

thats what i thought

pale coral
#

It fits cause cheap motherboards don’t have hard enough plastic on their ground channel in the 6 pin

maiden hull
#

Oh yikes

pale coral
#

So it’s not exactly fully square so it can be forced in

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Last time I had a customer with that issue was 3 days ago

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They got a 4 pin + 6pin cpu connector

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The 4 pin was side ways

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😭

trail moss
#

sideways??

pale coral
#

Not even upside down

trail moss
#

how did they not notice the clips LOL

pale coral
#

Yes the clip was off to the right

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How tf did they get it in

trail moss
#

truee

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i thought plugging it in upside down would create a huge short and fry the whole thing tbh

pale coral
#

But yeah no building a pc for first boot with almost a 90% success rate is my specialty, the remaining 10% be fan hubs, they always picky out certain motherboard sys_fan connections they don’t be wanting to boot without power cycling the pc to infinity

pale coral
#

You would never wanna buy parts again

trail moss
pale coral
#

That too

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Anything that creates a loop between power and electricity just shuts off that rail on the psu if not just the psu all together just cycles and turns off if it was a real bad connection

trail moss
#

yep

#
  • the circuit fuse if the psu failed
pale coral
#

Yeah + fire alarm and your local fire department if that failed

trail moss
#

redundancy agreedtent

trail moss
#

ah what did you do?

#

put new ram in?

pale coral
#

Take it out and put it back in ong imagine if it just wasn’t in all the way

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😭

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But do double check the top left power cable isn’t upside down so under stress test, editing or gaming workloads you don’t crash cause of power

#

Tip for my pc nerd if you like to alt tab in full screen mode but don’t like hanging out in a black screen for 2-5 seconds switching the color space to 8-bit depth, 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 color format gets rid of the hang and alt tabbing in full screen is 0.5 to 1 second tops

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Instant alt tabs in full screen though do be aware dropping to certain color spaces looks goofy on some panels

granite pollen
#

all 3 of my builds worked first time

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had no issues

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...well except when my ram wasnt detected.

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all it took was a reseat

sand geyser
#

RPM based controls in FanControl

maiden hull
#

Yup, at last

sand geyser
#

Sadly ADLX plugin support was also broken... so whatever

icy frigate
#

Anyone here own a 240 HZ QD OLED monitor and have anything bad to say about it?

strong sky
#

I don't have one but honestly OLED is the way to go if you have the cash

#

lower latency and insane contrast

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text might look a little funky because of the subpixel layout

tulip sage
#

just got these for $25 team W

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ngl theyre prettier than the regular tl fans

sudden mural
#

hold on let me cool my case

granite pollen
#

are there any advantages to buying 2x16 and replacing the 2x8 in my laptop, over buying 1x32 and having 40 gigs total?

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as it costs the same

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and there would be less hardware wasted

pale coral
#

I mean just add 2x16 to 2x8 if you have 4 slots, if you only have two slots 2x16 will run you better then 1x32 unless your future plan is to run 2x32, but a laptop will never use that much ram you’ll be bottlenecked by any other piece of your hardware before you need that much ram on a laptop

granite pollen
#

Together 40

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The usecase is virtual machine s

pale coral
#

Tough call, I normally would just 2x16 anyway for the pure fact of better compatibility, bandwidth is nearly the same. And it’s easier for the cpu to make calls to identical ram sticks

granite pollen
#

Alr

tulip sage
sudden mural
#

danke mann

sand geyser
#

good 4K TVs are such a visual treat

limpid torrent
#

hello

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i just won 350$ from a minecraft tournament

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and would like to purchasde a new gpu

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hwich will be 2nd hand

#

i have a 10870 which i can add onto it

tulip sage
#

gpu for $350??

limpid torrent
#

itll be second hand

strong sky
#

get a used 3080 or smt

exotic parcel
limpid torrent
#

r there any trusted second hand tech sites

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like where they r viewed by someone before being sold

strong sky
#

not aware of any personally, though I did buy my last GPU off of craigslist and it worked out fine. I know ebay has pretty good buyer protection and will side with you if the card arrives broken or smt

tulip sage
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i use facebook marketplace

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irl deals

limpid torrent
strong sky
#

for 450?

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pretty sure you can find one

grand dragon
#

what psu do you have now?

#

what case?

limpid torrent
#

the case is good

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so is ghe cooler

#

case is a deepcool zomething

#

ill cehck psu name i dorgor

grand dragon
limpid torrent
#

it will

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its atx

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700 watt 80+ deep cool

grand dragon
#

pf700?

limpid torrent
#

i think

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also the cheapest 3080 i can find here is 550$

grand dragon
limpid torrent
#

damn

grand dragon
#

you should wait for 2nd opinion tho

limpid torrent
#

ty

grand dragon
strong sky
limpid torrent
grand dragon
#

look for 3070/ 3070ti then

tulip sage
#

700w should be fine for regular use

#

cpu isnt that power hungry either

grand dragon
#

wattage is enough

#

but that particular psu

#

im not so sure about it

tulip sage
#

never heard of deep cool psu's

#

prob for a reason but

#

shrug

grand dragon
#

3080 has some weird spikes

limpid torrent
#

Msi Ventus 3X RTX 3070 Ti OC Edition

#

this good

strong sky
#

should be fine

tulip sage
#

yes

limpid torrent
#

what 3070/ti would u recommend

#

is there no 12 gb dram version

tulip sage
#

i dont think it matters as you wont be overclocking or anything acoustic

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plug and play

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🙂

grand dragon
#

ventus is meh

#

look for strix/ gamerock/ suprim

tulip sage
#

for $450???

grand dragon
#

for 3070ti?

#

why not

tulip sage
#

maybe

grand dragon
#

gamerocks aren't as pricy as strix/ suprim

tulip sage
#

i wanted a gamerock for my 4090

#

but i couldnt find one anywehrre

#

suprim liquid was the only non gamingtrio shit in stock

limpid torrent
grand dragon
#

but they are good

limpid torrent
#

Palit GeForce RTX 3070 GameRock

#

this good

grand dragon
#

ye

limpid torrent
#

k

grand dragon
#

how much is it

limpid torrent
#

440$

#

in a like new condition

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it wont bottleneck an i5 12600kf rite

grand dragon
#

you will be fine

limpid torrent
grand dragon
limpid torrent
#

v big

#

2080 super is well within my budget

grand dragon
#

3070ti is better

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but

#

it might not be worth it

#

if 2080s is much cheaper

#

you should watch some yt comparisons with games you are most interested in

limpid torrent
icy frigate
#

Anyone know where I can find an actually decent English manual or pc building video for the O11 Dynamic. This stuff is in mandarin lmaooo

velvet isle
#

You don’t need a case-specific guide

#

But go on yt and look up “o11 dynamic pc building tutorial” or something along those lines

pale coral
#

It is the most sold case in the US. If anyone fails to find a yt video on how to build in this case, we failed. Even my first time building in it was easier than any other case I’ve ever built in before.

pale coral
#

I don’t use any my bad

#

😂

#

It’s a choice, out of laziness. 😭

#

I’ll try and remember to add some.

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I forget to use punctuation when I’m typing with swipe to text on mobile

pale coral
#

I got smooth brain when I wake up, I apologize good sir

tulip sage
# icy frigate Anyone know where I can find an actually decent English manual or pc building vi...

Prawn here with a install guide on the Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo. Here I'm detailing how to build it in a "standard" format as well as talking about issues I had along the way with various things, particularly the cable management, SSD placement and the optional vertical mounting bracket. The Evo is a great case for all sorts of modular reasons, ...

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love this guy

sand geyser
#

SSD prices fucked again

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they were good for about a year

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Literal cartel behaviour

trail moss
#

aw man just as i was thinking about getting a new ssd :(

sand geyser
#

I'm glad I jumped on a 1tb NVMe SSD for my laptop as an impulse buy because it was under the magic 1000kč (40€ish) mental barrier

#

It's shit perf-wise but it does the job

sand geyser
trail moss
#

was thinking about recommending my sister to get another 1 tb ssd for her laptop cuz she does architecture work and she could use extra storage

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also her current storage is running out which is just a 1 tb samsung ssd

trail moss
#

lemme check how hard ssd prices are fucked here

sand geyser
#

cheaper than 1tb hdds for a fucking nvme ssd is wild

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(although to be fair the hdds have better sustained write performance)

trail moss
#

this is about $140-$150

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damn

trail moss
sand geyser
#

$86 here

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besides amazon takes a cut don't they, i would look elsewhere

trail moss
#

no other reputable sellers here honestly

sand geyser
#

god if you have to resort to calling scamazon reputable your situation's fucked

trail moss
#

well i mean they are pretty reliable here

#

i prefer them more than flipkart which is the only other option here which doesnt take high af shipping fees

#

this is the cheapest 1 tb nvme on amazon

main flume
#

what the fufck

sand geyser
#

you have found me out

main flume
#

is this beacuse of tsmc

trail moss
sand geyser
trail moss
sand geyser
trail moss
#

damn

sand geyser
#

don't buy it unless it's in a ~6th gen intel or older office pc/8th gen or older laptop

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it be slow

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dramless qlc

trail moss
#

amd 6000 series kekw

sand geyser
#

supposedly very power efficient

trail moss
#

wow thats rare

sand geyser
trail moss
#

it aint?

#

wtf

sand geyser
#

it's a cheap ssd characteristic as well as a 2230 characteristic

#

qlc is everywhere, some are okay, but since it's the cheapest you can guess where most of it is going

trail moss
#

these are the second and third cheapest

sand geyser
#

yeaaah those are much better

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or maybe I'm confusing them with the older models idk

#

read reviews!!!!

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and avoid dramless

trail moss
#

4.5 stars aint bad

sand geyser
#

not amazon fucking reviews

trail moss
#

ah yeah right

sand geyser
#

amazon reviews you might as well create a random number and go by it

trail moss
#

forgot kekw

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tf is "gaming storage"

#

pointless marketing ong

sand geyser
#

well, RGB SSDs are a thing

trail moss
#

brand sells rgb ssd
same brands sells power efficient ssds

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imagine

#

i bet the rgb ssds will have more sales

trail moss
# trail moss

ah damn i found the same ssd for about 2k rupees cheaper

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nvm its the 500 gb variant

#

oh my god i found the gen 4 variant of the one you have

sand geyser
#

yeah still dramless qlc tho

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oh god even the wd black sn770 is dramless

trail moss
#

"gaming storage"

sand geyser
#

funnily enough, the crucial P1 i had (p2/p3/p3+ predecessor), while slower on paper, was faster irl in every way than my p3

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both 1tb, but only went down to 120mb/s instead of 40mb/s, and had 1gb of DRAM

trail moss
#

damnn

#

ig thats what dram will do for ya

sand geyser
#

and more physical dies iirc

trail moss
#

yeah true

sand geyser
#

meanwhile my desktop's ssd being 48 times faster than my laptop's:

trail moss
#

which one do you have?

#

samsung?

sand geyser
#

Kingston KC3000 1TB

trail moss
#

ahh nice

#

i have a lenovo 256 ssd

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cuz prebuilt ;-;

#

very generic

sand geyser
# trail moss i have a lenovo 256 ssd

i've one too (in my desktop definitely not stolen from my laptop), and it's good. you have to find out the "normal" model if you wanna know anything else though

trail moss
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lol nice

maiden hull
#

Well 2 1 TB ones

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And 1 2 TB

round hamlet
#

Please

sand geyser
maiden hull
#

(IM JOKING)

#

One of my 1 TB drives is on my main VM systems (should be explanatory on what that’s doing)

#

My 1 TB drive is for boot and other non-portable apps

My 2 TB is my ReFS “Dev” Drive when not using Linux

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As for other long term data

#

It would be a fool’s errand to keep them in my internal system

#

Made that mistake once

#

Never again

lone jackal
#

wtf

#

😭

icy frigate
#

So I updated the bios for my mb. However, when I try to install windows, it doesn’t locate any existing drives? Why could that be?

main flume
#

intel?

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disable drive thingy in bios

icy frigate
#

In the BIOS, I can see my two SSD’s and HDD which means it can’t be an issue with the hardware

#

And no, AMD

main flume
#

uhh

icy frigate
icy frigate
#

It’s strange, BIOS can detect my drives, but not windows update from my usb bootable drive

#

I try to scan for them, and it gives me an error message saying « We are unable to find blah blah b’ah »

main flume
#

my friend encountered the same issue, but for him it was because of the enabled intel vmd

icy frigate
#

Hmmm

main flume
#

perchance amd has an analogue technology that you can disable in bios?

maiden hull
#

Hold on

#

Check CSM

icy frigate
#

This happens when I get out of bios and choose to install windows from my bootable drive

grand dragon
#

can you boot into the install?

icy frigate
#

As in enable CSM?

maiden hull
#

CSM shouldn’t be enabled

icy frigate
#

It isn’t

maiden hull
#

Hmm

grand dragon
icy frigate
#

See how bios can detect my parts

maiden hull
#

It’s not gonna show USB media iirc

#

At least on MSI

#

On that page

icy frigate
#

What is that? Sorry, sort of new to the technical terms

grand dragon
#

can

#

you

#

boot

#

into the win install

icy frigate
#

Yes^^^

grand dragon
#

open cmd in win install

maiden hull
#

Hold on Windows Update through… bootable USB??

The hell?

grand dragon
#

and check if disk are visible in diskpart

icy frigate
#

I hit install and it prepares files, and then it asks me to choose where to install it. However, my SSD’s and HDD can’t be scanned or found

maiden hull
#

OH

grand dragon
maiden hull
#

wonder why it’s wanting a specific driver

#

Tf

grand dragon
maiden hull
#

I misread your initial message

icy frigate
#

Well, it’s not wanting a specific drive. It just wanted me to choose one lol

grand dragon
#

wait

icy frigate
#

So would that be something within the bios that I need to disable or enable or is it something other than that?

grand dragon
#

are you trying to install

#

clean windows?

icy frigate
#

It’s an iso file for windows 10

maiden hull
grand dragon
#

ok but what are you trying to do

icy frigate
#

Install thĂŠ os on my ssd

maiden hull
#

I don’t own any X670 boards but typically if it’s not able to find drives it usually means there’s some drive specific setting on in UEFI

#

Usually RAID or Rapid Storage (for Intel)

grand dragon
maiden hull
#

In that case it would ask for a driver

grand dragon
#

clean one

maiden hull
grand dragon
#

not formatted

icy frigate
#

Yes, everything in this pc is new. Like brand spanking new

grand dragon
#

so

icy frigate
#

I built it very recently

grand dragon
#

once again

#

cmd

#

and diskpart

#

you can try to format the drive

#

and assign a letter

#

or just format it

maiden hull
#

You shouldn’t have to do this though

grand dragon
#

it might help

maiden hull
#

Sure but that’s not going to address the root issue

#

I’m sus on RAID being on

icy frigate
#

Where did you see it on?

maiden hull
#

I didn’t see it on based off your screenshots

#

Just a hunch

#

Usually that’s what is causing it

icy frigate
#

It’s set to AHCI

maiden hull
#

Ok so it’s off

#

Alr

icy frigate
#

Ye

grand dragon
#

it can even be the bootable usb

#

wrong partition set

maiden hull
#

Perhaps

grand dragon
#

or whatever it's called

#

MBR/ GPT thingy

maiden hull
#

How the heck did you even get a bootable USB in the first place?

icy frigate
#

I’ll go to properties on my bootable windows drive and show you guys

#

I bought a usb, installed the iso file and copied it to the usb

maiden hull
#

Erm

#

And how specifically did you “copy” the file

icy frigate
#

Good question, been a few months

#

I’ll have to show you the properties

#

Hold up

maiden hull
#

You don’t exactly install ISO files btw

#

You’re really supposed to flash it using a utility like Rufus - that will properly copy the contents to the USB and add a bootable entry,

or

copy the ISO itself on bootable media that boots off of ISOs such as Ventoy (which is what I use)

icy frigate
#

Anything seem out of the ordinary?

maiden hull
#

It won’t through File Explorer

#

ESD-ISO hmm

#

What tool did you use to flash this?

#

Or did you just copy-paste

icy frigate
#

I forget honestly

#

It’s been a while

#

I think I used Rufus

main flume
#

yo

maiden hull
#

Just only thing you need to change in the install section is MBR -> GPT

main flume
#

clean your link 🪥

maiden hull
#

No

#

Full links give authority

#

I have the authority to brush you off the server

main flume
#

clean your link i wont repeat it

#

your drive will be defragged real quick if you wont listen

maiden hull
#

Too late I’ve degraded your SSD

#

it has 1% left

#

Use it wisely

main flume
#

im going to ask ixrf for help

icy frigate
#

Let me try a few things in the bios before I wipe my drive and start over

icy frigate
#

Is it possible that my SSD’s And HDD are in the wrong place hardware wise?

maiden hull
#

Nah windows wouldn’t care

icy frigate
#

Okay, so that’s definitely not a problem to start thinking about

#

I suppose next step would be to wipe my usb and install the iso file from your link

#

Perhaps it has something to do with Rufus but who knows

pale coral
#

Ngl this I’ve only ever seen happened once, where windows only wanted to install on legacy mode instead of uefi

icy frigate
#

Now I have a different issue

#

Windows 11 is installed, but my drives aren’t showing up in file explorer. I also updated the drivers for each storage device in DM

pale coral
#

Format them in drive manager?

icy frigate
#

I created new volumes for both, but they still don’t appear in file explorer

#

they don’t show as unallocated in Disk Management

maiden hull
#

send a screenshot of what they show as

grand dragon
maiden hull
#

If they’re black then they’re not initialized

#

Remember: screenshots are going to help us more than you trying to word it

icy frigate
#

I figured it out, thanks guys

icy frigate
#

Had anyone had issues with sound on windows 11?

#

In terms of their input not working for their mic?

maiden hull
#

That’s just Windows inputs in general

#

Have to play around with outputs

#

Not really Windows 11’s specific problem

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Varies from setup to setup