💾⠂Hardware & PC Building

[polar valve]

both are brutal overkill for borderline everything you could be doing at 1080p

so youll be fine regardless of which you go with

[grand dragon]

3070 is not enough for high fps anymore

for me

[polar valve]

i agree

im not super happy with my 3070 perf. anymore either

but both of the cards youre looking at are 3090ti+ tier of performance, so youll likely be fine with both

[grand dragon]

they aren't any other options

at least till super series drops

[maiden hull]

It’s crazy how now the 3070/2080 Ti tier of performance is unsatisfactory

Like how did this even happen

Even I have a 3070

[polar valve]

game optimization 📉

nah, but on some real shit

what people except js goes up

[maiden hull]

Fr

[grand dragon]

kovaaks gpu heavy

and too demanding for 3070

[maiden hull]

How the fuck

The aim trainer? Needs so much GPU horsepower??

Oh my god

[polar valve]

you would be surprised !

( if youre on a ridiculously high hz monitor . . .)

[grand dragon]

Unparalleled performance: Built in Unreal Engine, ensuring the absolute highest performance.

heh

[polar valve]

least performant aimtrainer, but w/e

fkn kovaak

[maiden hull]

I swear I would get over 1.5K before

What happened

[polar valve]

you didnt LOL

[grand dragon]

it still feels better/ smoother than aimlab

[polar valve]

even amine

on his 13900k & 4070ti cant do that rn

[maiden hull]

I must be trippin then

[polar valve]

and sackboy wasnt hitting anywhere near that back in 2020 either

wasnt hitting anywhere near that either

[polar valve]

mehj

i dont agree

kvk feels the worst of al, ab, and kvk to me

[maiden hull]

Windows stability on work laptops fr

However instead of figuring it out yourself, you have to contact IT!

Because you lack the one thing you need

Power. Unlimited power.

[grand dragon]

2019 air nuns

r5 3600 + rx580 iirc

[maiden hull]

I require 1 trillion fps for my 10000 Hz monitor

Fight me.

[grand dragon]

i require at least 800 stable fps with my 390hz monitor for my pasu runs.

[polar valve]

get 540hz

only way to play . . .

[grand dragon]

gpu first

[polar valve]

even if you were planning on getting a monitor

theres no point rn

xl2586x coming Q1, and xv242f probably coming around the same time

no reason to give asus ur money if you can avoid it

[grand dragon]

xv has a TN panel, no?

[polar valve]

all 540 is TN

if you want IPS, youll have to settle for aw2524h/hf

both of which are much much slower than their TN counterparts

[round hamlet]

ROPEMAXX now

[grand dragon]

are they much better than xv252qf?

[polar valve]

probably not

wouldnt spend like half a grand upgrading from an xv252qf to them anyways

[grand dragon]

my xv252qf has a dead subpixel, i was thinking about sending it for warranty

[polar valve]

xv252qf obviously isnt there, but the showcased monitors are all "better" ig

[grand dragon]

and then selling whatever they send back

[polar valve]

up to u fella

[grand dragon]

gpu first

please 4070 ti super be decent 🙏

and cheaper than 4080

[round hamlet]

Simon you should buy me new pc

[polar valve]

LOL

explode .

[round hamlet]

Oh

Ok : (

I think I wanna do small build

Like lian li dan a4 h2o

are there better cases now

[polar valve]

yap yap yap

i dont keep up w small cases at all

[round hamlet]

Ok

[lone jackal]

@polar valve https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmG4PF for this list is it worth getting a 4070TI or 4080 instead

[round hamlet]

like everyone here has been saying wait a little bit longer (like ~2 weeks iirc) until super versions are released

So see those specs + price then decide

[lone jackal]

Kk

[polar valve]

as hexal said, wait for the super versions

but yeah

always get the best gpu ur budget allows

[uneven goblet]

ME NEVER GOT RESPONSE FROM HIM!

Anyways for merchants it's best to look on pcpricetracker.in, if the part isn't found there just normal search and make sure to add indian merchanta

[polar valve]

stfuuuu alan

[tulip sage]

which cards r getting super

[polar valve]

4080, 4070ti, 4070

4090 isnt getting one

[tulip sage]

god damn u sit in here

LOOOL

[polar valve]

sniped the fuck outta u

its crazy

[round hamlet]

what a loser 💤

sorry that wasnt nice

[polar valve]

what the uck . . .

[nimble ingot]

when 4090 ti ?

4090 isn t using the full bus nor the full die, it s insane to see that amd get shit ton buy a purposely slower cards

ty segmentation

[uneven goblet]

@nimble ingot !

[nimble ingot]

hhmm intersting

[sand geyser]

wait so 4070 super and 4070 ti super?

4070, 4070 super, 4070 ti, 4070 ti super

this is like the 16xx cards all over again

[maiden hull]

Not only that but even the 4070 super ti super ti super

[sand geyser]

weren't the 1660 ti/super super close to each other anyways

[maiden hull]

Yeah

[sand geyser]

but clearly they can't make the 4070 ti super be as good as the 4080 so it'll be some kind of weirdass card

[maiden hull]

Same with 2070 Super <-> 2080 and 2060 Super <-> 2070

[sand geyser]

either it'll be co close to the 4070ti it'll be useless or so close to the 4080 the 4080 will be useless

god amd's naming has been so much better since 5xxx

[maiden hull]

Well i mean the 4070 Ti and 4080 are far apart arm

Not sure what’s really gonna happen

Heard mixed things

[sand geyser]

the 4070, you mean the should have been 4060

[maiden hull]

Ah yes

4070 Ti the should have been 4070

[sand geyser]

it's insane the 3060 looks like a good card compared to the 4060

[maiden hull]

They will look good when another card looks more meme-able

[sand geyser]

the gtx 1630

[maiden hull]

GT 705

Waiting for that card

[sand geyser]

the GT cards are slowly becoming redundant anyways

no encoder makes them borderline useless

if they had NVENC, they would turn from useless to great

[sand geyser]

so they're basically just what you'd get with a simple overclcok on the older cards no?

i misinterpeted the cuda core count as a benchmark score nvm lmao

the 4080 super is basically identical then

holy shit it's so bad

[polar valve]

power efficiency :3

this is why i said the lower end ada cards shouldnt exist

[sand geyser]

are they lower end? i wouldn't say so

[polar valve]

i would

[sand geyser]

they're being sold what the pre-pricing-fuckery 70 series cards were being sold for

basically midrange money

and have less pcie bandwidth on an older system than a gt 1030 which is just laughable

[exotic parcel]

how does that happenwtf

[sand geyser]

8x 4.0 running at 3.0 aka any older system

i mean, older is a bad word since it sounds like it's outdated, but that's 10900k/5800x3d (with non-5xx mobo)

[nimble ingot]

2070 super was basically a 2080 super / ti

20 th gen was weird

[maiden hull]

Uhm achktually 🤓 I was correct

But yeah 20 series was an odd ball

The many 108p Ti rehashes!

[obsidian lion]

my gpu destroyes all

[nimble ingot]

nice

3060 ti is quit nice

but 780 ti forever better

and rx590

kepler /polaris is instant mode

[maiden hull]

Ah yes

[maiden hull]

Of course it does!

AND YET IT’S CONSIDERED LOW END???

LIKE HOW DID WE GET HERE

[nimble ingot]

when 4090 ti

[maiden hull]

it frustrates me how cards with pretty nice performance is just suddenly low end

By perf standards my 2070 super is technically shit now

[nimble ingot]

hope 5090 will have proper resteriearion power

[nimble ingot]

stop

[obsidian lion]

4060ti is like mid end isn’t it

[maiden hull]

Well it’s more powerful than my 2070 super

[obsidian lion]

not low but not super good

[maiden hull]

And that was mid-high end

[nimble ingot]

my 2060 s is quit good

[polar valve]

yeah

5 years ago tellinq

[maiden hull]

Yeah 5 years ago

And yet I’m still happy with it

How did we get here

[polar valve]

bc games get more demanding ?

[nimble ingot]

o

[polar valve]

i would not be happy with the performance of a 2070 super

[nimble ingot]

no

[maiden hull]

Sounds like you guys should be yelling at game devs

[nimble ingot]

because devs are more greedy and retarded

[polar valve]

dont you think people do 😭

[maiden hull]

It’s the negligence cycle all over again

[polar valve]

have you not seen the countless examples of games failing horrifically

[obsidian lion]

it’s not the devs it’s the companies who rush them to make shitty games

[polar valve]

bc they just havent optimized anything

[nimble ingot]

EA HASN T YET FIXED APEX LEGEND FRAME RATE LIMITERS AND ENGINE

[polar valve]

oh my god shut up

[maiden hull]

We have a huge jump of power

People get more negligible

Repeat

[nimble ingot]

in 3 years

9 season

[maiden hull]

Oh of course it’s the rush agenda

[nimble ingot]

engine have all the optimisation built in

networ/ io/ engine etc

most of the code is open source

[maiden hull]

I only see shit optimization and then move on

The game at that point has no relevance to me

[obsidian lion]

u should see ksp 2 recommended specs

[maiden hull]

Uhhh

[nimble ingot]

also devs just thinks that dlss will solve all their problems

[maiden hull]

“You need a 4090 super ti plus supergen robokiller plus pro max to play at 2 FPS”

[nimble ingot]

fucking hell

[minor cargo]

3080 recommended?

[obsidian lion]

yes

[minor cargo]

what's the minimum lol

[polar valve]

alan wake type recommended specs

[maiden hull]

They can’t even get the NVIDIA name right

[polar valve]

that shit was ridiculous too

[obsidian lion]

some ppl were getting under 60 fps on 4090

[nimble ingot]

no no its like that

[maiden hull]

nVidia

[polar valve]

upscaling tech is the reason games run so badly now

[obsidian lion]

i mean it is a very complex game but damn

[polar valve]

change my mind

theyve become a crutch for them to avoid actually making their games playable

[nimble ingot]

yes

amd still don t have a dlss competitor

[maiden hull]

“Omg I don’t need to put so much hard work now??? YIPPE I CAN PUSH MORE QUANTITY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT QUALITY”

[nimble ingot]

xess is so good

[maiden hull]

Crunch munch crunch munch

[nimble ingot]

also where tf is direct storage ?

[polar valve]

never Coming !

[nimble ingot]

its in the dx12 api

[polar valve]

isnt there like a single game on pc utilizing it

[nimble ingot]

it take 2 hours to integrate

[nimble ingot]

ratchet and clank rift apart and another one

[polar valve]

probably still unusuable on 1080p

[nimble ingot]

it is

rhe finals

xess

beautiful

[obsidian lion]

we make the lowest video settings still look like high (starfield)

[nimble ingot]

on my laptop

fsr is so dogshit

pixel orgy

[polar valve]

cities skylines 2 accidentally having settings inverted

so low was high 😭

[nimble ingot]

city skylines devs have yet to discover lod

[maiden hull]

Here’s the new Minecraft recommended specs:

CPU: Core Ultra 15 Processor 4994
GPU: RTX 8090 Ti Super
RAM: 1 TB
Storage: 1 Petabyte of storage available

[obsidian lion]

starfield ran ass on my pc i couldn’t get consistent fps even at lowest settings

[polar valve]

i could

but i had the most absurd spikes

everytime an npc was in my fov

i genuinely couldnt fix it either

[nimble ingot]

it s funny

[polar valve]

like game just straight froze for 3 seconds at a time

[maiden hull]

I feel like botting bad games with 1 star reviews for bad optimization

[obsidian lion]

yes exactly

[polar valve]

whenever that wasnt happening

it was lovely jubbly though

[nimble ingot]

how vulkan /ms puts insane amout of effort for dx and vulkan not be shit and extensive data easy process

[polar valve]

game looked like hot garbage in the first city though

like actually some 2012 type shit

[nimble ingot]

all that for devs to muh muh don t know

[maiden hull]

What 😭

[nimble ingot]

oops

that s fsr

it me

not me

[polar valve]

why cant things just run as well as vulkan siege ;(

so many frames !!!

[nimble ingot]

some have issue with vulkan

depend

idk

bleh

[maiden hull]

I’m so glad I never bought any games since 2021

[polar valve]

that has got to be boring

[maiden hull]

I would be leaving so many 1 star reviews

[nimble ingot]

nice

[maiden hull]

Actually no it’s not

[nimble ingot]

i still buy xbox 360 games

[maiden hull]

It gave me time to develop and actually do irl things that matter more

[nimble ingot]

because 360/ 3 ds >

[nimble ingot]

what do you use to code ?

tuebo pascal ?

turbo

[maiden hull]

Specs? Depends on where I’m at

If it’s my main system it’s just a 12700K and 3070 w/ 64 GB of RAM (yes, I have programs that surpassed 32 GB)

Originally was gonna be my omega gamer system until I changed my mind

Main thing I kinda regret was my SSD choices

[obsidian lion]

java moment

[maiden hull]

Only for large file transfers tho

[maiden hull]

Nah Java compiling doesn’t care

[nimble ingot]

i meants languages

[maiden hull]

Oh that

[polar valve]

that hp b-die

is so lovely

[maiden hull]

Java C# Python JS TS Vue CSS SCSS C++ PoweShell Batch

[maiden hull]

Oh yeah it’s awesome

A shame my motherboard hates 4 sticks

Well

It’ll work at 3400

Anything past

Well

It’ll post at 3600

But have fun with apps crashing

And then failing like immediately on OCCT

[uneven goblet]

z-e-e

[polar valve]

youre clearly not getting responses

i think its time to give up

[uneven goblet]

Real

[uneven goblet]

No

[sand geyser]

i also play games made before then mostly but still, the 3070 is starting to not be enough VRAM-wise

mostly because nvidia is fucking stupid

[sand geyser]

most of us are only familiar with their own markets sadly

[polar valve]

yeah

[uneven goblet]

https://pcpricetracker.in/ I don't know much about the specs and stuff.

[polar valve]

and looking into the indian market

is hellish

[sand geyser]

i mean I'm not even sure what budget you're targeting but it seems to be around $700

[uneven goblet]

Well in inr 85k, 1k usd but due to india being india tech costs more so yeah 700

Maybe 800

[sand geyser]

if you were actually targeting that here I'd just say go for a last gen cpu and used gpu

you could prob get an rx 6800 xt instead of the wimpy 7600

[uneven goblet]

The used market in India is pile of hot shit

[polar valve]

is r5 7500f available in india?

[uneven goblet]

Lemme check

[sand geyser]

where even are the weird ryzen parts like the 5600x3d and 7500f available

[polar valve]

5600x3d was microcenter exclusive

[uneven goblet]

I think the worst am5 cpu is the r5 7600

[polar valve]

and idk if 7500f is universally available

[uneven goblet]

In india

[polar valve]

but its available up here in dnemark

[polar valve]

Rip

[sand geyser]

it's cheap and decent enuogh

a lot cheaper than the 7800x3d that's for certain

[polar valve]

and provides you am5

so future upgradability should be excellent

[uneven goblet]

Yeah ik but i feel like I can find a better monitor, I don't need 165 hz tbh

I checked everywhere but i couldn't find one

[sand geyser]

while that's true i think a 5600+b550 mobo would be cheaper than the 7600 itself

[polar valve]

probably

would also perform worse, and lock you on a dead-end platform

[sand geyser]

i guess it's a tradeoff of if you want to upgrade platform or GPU first

although I reckon I'm gonna upgrade my 3070 before my r5 5600

and that's a significantly better gpu than the 7600

i guess if you used the 7600 as a temporary gpu until the used prices go down

[uneven goblet]

I could save a decent bit on monitors, I was thinking of a 700 or 650 psu too

[sand geyser]

anyways, fairly handy reference chart from here https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

[sand geyser]

having a shitty monitor with a good build is like having a 1000hp car with 20 year old tires

[polar valve]

yeahhh

build ur pc around the display you have (or are getting)

[uneven goblet]

Is 144hz bad?

[polar valve]

no

[sand geyser]

definitely get 100+hz

[polar valve]

144 is fine

[uneven goblet]

Yeah that's what I was aiming for, I couldn't find one... Any models?

[sand geyser]

ideally IPS/VA, avoid TN if you want to use the monitor for literally anything besides gaming

[sand geyser]

who gives a fuck above 144 is better than 144 :P

[polar valve]

check reviews instead of just blinding following this guidance

theres good TNs, and theres god awful IPS panels

[sand geyser]

yeah that's a better idea

[uneven goblet]

My budget

[sand geyser]

if it costs the same, why not

[uneven goblet]

Hmm it does?

[sand geyser]

i feel like everybody does 165hz now

i have no idea why multiples of 60 aren't popular because of video content but whatever

[uneven goblet]

Hmm so should I go for a 650w psu?

[polar valve]

people just see higher numbers

and go oOoOoOoooOOooOO

[sand geyser]

depends on the future

if you're fine with sticking with midrange hardware i don't see why to go above 650

even 550 should be fine

[uneven goblet]

With that build is 650 adequate?

[sand geyser]

450 would prob be enough

[uneven goblet]

Should I go 500 to be safe?

[sand geyser]

just go price to performance in terms of psu

[polar valve]

youre really starting to push it

probably fine, but dont try pushing much lower

[uneven goblet]

He said 450 would be enough :/

[sand geyser]

i pushed a 5900xt with unlocked pbo limits in prime95 + furmark on my 3070 on my 650w psu

but yeah just go 650/700/750 for future upgradability

[uneven goblet]

Alright

[polar valve]

probably will be

but might not be in the future

and god knows you dont wanna have to switch psu

shit sucks

[uneven goblet]

Yea

[sand geyser]

meh, it's not an ultra expensive part

[obsidian lion]

get a $3 psu from amazon

i call it the “chinese bomb”

[sand geyser]

terrorist advice

side note, it's kind of insane how far smartphone displays have come

[obsidian lion]

imagine ur company being so ass at making psus that ur known for being the first choice in a terrorist attack

[sand geyser]

i have a 1440p-ish? 100% DCI-P3 OLED 120hz 2000nit panel just chilling in my pocket

[obsidian lion]

me with my 720p

[sand geyser]

i mean i used to have a 750p IPS 100% DCI-P3 IPS 60hz 650nit

but that's still a very good panel considering it was around 330ppi

[polar valve]

more so just it being annoying

[obsidian lion]

i am never letting this SE go

[polar valve]

second most annoying part of a pc to swap

[sand geyser]

boohoo

[uneven goblet]

Wild

[obsidian lion]

just u wait

[sand geyser]

the SE on the left sadly is water damaged

[nimble ingot]

2 apples

[sand geyser]

i have a problem

[nimble ingot]

yes what is it

[uneven goblet]

So all cooler master 650w gold in India are sold

[sand geyser]

i have a bunch of old apple devices accumulated from my family and bought for fun

older, not really that old

[nimble ingot]

lul sounds like a nice repair project

i have still a wii and a dsi xl to repair

[nimble ingot]

im still using an iphone 7

what phone do you guys use ?

[obsidian lion]

se 2022

[nimble ingot]

too new for me to know

apple ?

[obsidian lion]

yes

[sand geyser]

14 pro

[nimble ingot]

hi wow nice give me ipad i need need

[sand geyser]

ipod 5.5 60gb, ipod nano 3 4gb, ipad 1 32gb cell, ipad air 1 16gb, ipad pro 11" 2020 128gb, iphone 5s 16gb, iphone 6s 16gb, iphone 8 256gb, iphone se 2020 128gv

everything except the SE 2020 works, and the 6s has non-working Touch ID and ambient light sensor

[polar valve]

yeah im gonna nuke u

[sand geyser]

it's like, $400 worth of devices excluding the Pro 2020 and watch

but those i daily so eh

[polar valve]

ill take the watch ty ;D

5 dolaars

[sand geyser]

it's prob worth like 50 LMAO

[obsidian lion]

i got something else for u

[polar valve]

wtf LOL

which gen is it

[sand geyser]

series 4

but insanely scratched, and 75% battery health

still lasts a day if it's charged to 100% around midnight

[sand geyser]

oooooo very cool

[obsidian lion]

idk what to do with it it’s old asf

[sand geyser]

2gb hdd

[obsidian lion]

i just keep it in my closet

[polar valve]

still functional !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[polar valve]

send it to me :D

[sand geyser]

keeping it until it dies

even if it stops lasting a day, i'll just get the battery replaced

series 4 was looking back probably the best gen

first 64bit watch

[obsidian lion]

do u think i can put linux on it or smth

[sand geyser]

afaik, 2 of the A12 e-cores and 1GB ram

[sand geyser]

it's powerpc right?

[obsidian lion]

yes

[polar valve]

try '

[obsidian lion]

lemme charge it up

this is ancient

[sand geyser]

these 2 things having the same cores is WILD

[main flume]

imagine having linux pc on your wrist

thats some watchdog typa shi\

[maiden hull]

June bed reveal

[obsidian lion]

yes my duvet

[minor cargo]

is the Arctic Liquid Freezer III a thing

or even announced anywhere

[round hamlet]

Zzz

[sudden mural]

13

some of these r beat up to death ☠️‼️‼️

[main flume]

were there any not iphones yet

samsung a52s

[polar valve]

no

just more revisions to II

• just get an ls720 or smth

[minor cargo]

it exists

[maiden hull]

Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

Why Arctic shill

Deepcool is an excellent choice!

[minor cargo]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-III-Black/dp/B09VGXMTK4

u think this was an accidental listing?

[polar valve]

has to be

hasnt had a formal announcement afaik ?

[minor cargo]

it literally does not exist

anywhere else

lol?

[polar valve]

tbh

on higher end builds

doing a cheap custom loop doesnt sound too bad

[maiden hull]

https://youtu.be/HxHTT_RzGCo?si=foREwPxXVZimyOGN don’t listen to this guy for gaming specific stuff - he is focused on creator stuff but I’m gonna watch this to see if he has any good points

Guys I’m highlighted

[minor cargo]

ig they just accidentally leaked it

[maiden hull]

Leaking strike

[minor cargo]

u think that they would just refund u if u bought it?

[polar valve]

i dont have the slightest clue heals

try it

lets js it doesnt leak ;D

haha get it bc aio ?

ok :(

[minor cargo]

i got it !!! :)

Usually dispatched within 3 to 7 months

[maiden hull]

Time to get the freezer IV

Fuck the III, go to IV

[polar valve]

LOL

[maiden hull]

Tbf the Freezer III actually looks really good

[minor cargo]

Date First Available 12 Oct. 2023

[maiden hull]

I hated the II appearance

[polar valve]

lets just hope it performs better too !

[nimble ingot]

damn so new and recent

[nimble ingot]

yes alf2 rev 1 has some serious issue with lga 1700, you have like shit perf, rev 2 is completly fine with lga 1700

[nimble ingot]

it s the best move and cost you like 300 at most

[polar valve]

yeah thats what i mean

if youre already paying a lot for a good build

you might aswell just pay like $100-200 more than a good aio

and get a custom loop

[nimble ingot]

yes

its more silent, reliable, versatile, expandable and its really not that cheap

but all balls watercooling can be

external rad , gpu, cpu, ram, ssd , pch, vrm , gpu backplate, motherboard backplate waterblock etc

is costy ( a tad more )

cpu and ram block get iceman ones on zliexpress

literally best for cheap

[sudden mural]

NO

3 years old

[nimble ingot]

too recent

[sand geyser]

2.5, no?

[sudden mural]

well yes

[tulip sage]

my shit is capped at 100 Mbps

this wasnt the case before

[tulip sage]

plugged into my other room

[uneven goblet]

The rx 6800 xt is way more expensive than a 7600 when I tried to find it

Well it is 16gb, but I cannot find one at 8gb

[sand geyser]

used it shouldn't be :P

and 8gb version don't, won't and shouldn't exist

[uneven goblet]

Hmm I'll check used

[uneven goblet]

It's 10k inr more expensive than what I could I find was cheapest on a new 7600

[sand geyser]

holy shit your used market is even worse

how

[uneven goblet]

I have no idea

https://computify.in/products/sapphire-nitro-rx-6800-xt-special-edition-16gb-gddr6 closest I could find but out of stock

[sand geyser]

i meant used as in used person to person, not bought from a company

but yeah that og build seems decent, you'll just have to upgrade the GPU in a year or two if you're gonna be playing anything besides esports games

[uneven goblet]

There are none person to person that i could find

Thing is that is out if my budget

[obsidian lion]

new challenge: getting openbsd to run on an ibook g4

[lone jackal]

Guys if I was to upgrade my pc whar should I upgrade (I play Fortnite pretty sure it’s cpu heavy but I also play other games so)
I hav b550 elite v2
16gb of 3200mhz ram
R5 5600
2060
Some shitty slow ssd (it’s fine cuz my internet is shitty so)

I have a lancool 205 for anyone wondering

I’m not rlly a renderer anymore so Idc if nvidia or amd gpu

Budget for gpu would be 300 gbp

For cpu would be 200 but I’d have to wait 4 months between upgrades

[round hamlet]

I thought u were going to build new pc

Or was that a build for a friend or smth

[lone jackal]

Already built for friend

O

Yea that was my g in Manchester

He just didn’t know what parts to get and wanted me to built but it’s too far to travel and holidays r over so I can’t do it so I give him online support

[nimble ingot]

cpu and ram

fortnite is cou bound

[sand geyser]

buy a 5800x3d

[maiden hull]

5800x3d your way up

GPU can come later

Also I personally own a 5800X3D and it doesn’t give a shit past 3200 MHz

[sand geyser]

i mean if you're playing aaa games or heavier games i'd go for a better gpu

i've been gpu limited about 100% of the time with my 3070 + 5600

[maiden hull]

I’m still mad how the 3070 is basically considered pathetic

[sand geyser]

the only thing shit about the 3070 is vram

[maiden hull]

Why are we letting shitty game devs choose this

[maiden hull]

I suppose that’s fair

I’m never purchasing another online game until I see some actual competency that won’t make me have to upgrade by 3070

If that never happens so be it

I’ll deem every new game a scam no matter

[sand geyser]

i can't play many VR games at full texture quality

SteamVR takes up 2.5gb, and then you have to render the game 3 times

left eye, right eye, desktop

[maiden hull]

Only upgrade I’ll be doing is up to the 14900KS when that comes

For compile times

Then that’s it

I’m still holding off on GPU upgrades unless I need faster render times

[nimble ingot]

yes and no

[polar valve]

braindead upgrade

js do 14900k man

youre burning so much extra power for so little extra performance

with the S-chips

[maiden hull]

Fine

[lone jackal]

@polar valve the card is so bitg compared to his motherboard 😭

[polar valve]

LOL

[lone jackal]

thats only a 3070

he was gunna buy a 3080

3 fan

[polar valve]

he shouldve

whats his build

[lone jackal]

u picked his parts

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmG4PF

[polar valve]

dis is a 4070 then . . .

[lone jackal]

i meant 40

mistyype

misclik

[polar valve]

( not mine . .. sadly !)

[sudden mural]

real me 2

[polar valve]

btw keep me updated on if he kills it

[lone jackal]

he is tryna screw the mobo in

"its gunna snap"

he is saying he needs to use the six "goofy looking screws" to screw the mobo in

[polar valve]

LOL

[lone jackal]

"how do i screw a circle screw"

hes doing it on his floor btw

he padded his floor with cardboard

and hes building it on the floor

[polar valve]

💹

[maiden hull]

You should be suggesting a GTX 480

Why? Because they’re toasty

[lone jackal]

@polar valve the screws "despawned"

[polar valve]

its fine !

ill buy the mb off him for 4 pence

[exotic parcel]

Tf is that?

[polar valve]

based pad ?

[exotic parcel]

Which pad? A skypad sora mod?

[polar valve]

let me find his msg

[exotic parcel]

I see

[obsidian lion]

can that be harmful to the mobo LOL

[lone jackal]

idk

[round hamlet]

do they make custom skypads

[polar valve]

not anymore

[round hamlet]

not coolkio

[polar valve]

for their kickstarter they offered customs, and for a while during the 2.0 era they offered customs

but thats it

[obsidian lion]

HSHDDBBEJWIWHEBDVD

[polar valve]

?

[obsidian lion]

nothing i just needed to let that out

[lone jackal]

@polar valve he was fucking plugging the psu cables into random things after I left

He went with the motive of if it’s fits it’s right

[round hamlet]

tell him to turn on his psu and press the poewr button

👍

[tulip sage]

sounds fine to me

[lone jackal]

What does this mean

Could I just save up to buy a am5 mobo and am5 cpu at the same time

[maiden hull]

What does that have to do with an AM4 CPU?

Well eh

I mean

You could go for an AM5 motherboard and CPU but then you’ll also need DDR5 RAM

I’ll let Simon take it from here

I’m only familiar with DDR4 territory

[lone jackal]

Would be more if a game changer, no?

And I meant what do u mean by it doesn’t give a shit

The other msg was unrelated

[maiden hull]

Try to use a ram kit over 3200

Most likely you won’t notice much of a difference

It really won’t be as impressive unlike other Ryzen CPUs

The CAS latency, however, will be

Now I’m probably wrong about this but I believe DDR5 is an opposite story

[lone jackal]

I’ll save up around a thousand pound and buy a 6000mhz 32gb kit with a good am5 ddr5 mobo that is futureproof and buy a 7800x3d

Probs won’t cost me 1k but will be close

First plan of action is buying some fans so

I need a job and fans

[polar valve]

like £750

[sand geyser]

that's a difference between close to 1k and $250

and you know, for $500, you can buy a really good gpu

[tulip sage]

Hueh.

[sand geyser]

overclocking doesn't damage gpus i don't know what people are on about 99% of the time

[tulip sage]

voids warranty

i think thats it

[sand geyser]

won't void it if you just say you didn't

[tulip sage]

oh

i thought they could tell

[polar valve]

some products they can, others they cant

[tulip sage]

welp

either way

4090 next weekkkk

[polar valve]

lets go team

time to be hyper-bottlenecked for almost everything

[tulip sage]

i hope it runs well on my 720p60 monitor

[polar valve]

on the note of resolution

8k is actually just ideal

and nothing & nobody can change my mind

[sand geyser]

yet to find one where they can tbh

[sand geyser]

technically, ~400ppi+ is ideal

[polar valve]

8k @ 24" is close to 400 🙏

(367)

8k also just scales decently into everything

[polar valve]

several of amds cpus

blow a fuse the second you open an oc menu

iirc

[sand geyser]

oh oopsie

that's stupid since it means my pbo "overclock" of limiting it to 65w voids it

[maiden hull]

Can you please remove the l in overclock

[polar valve]

overcock

[limpid torrent]

\so inspirational

[maiden hull]

e

[fallen stump]

@maiden hull

[maiden hull]

Welcome to the 5800X3D family

Did you update your bios yet?

[maiden hull]

Dw it’s just for the newer Threadripper CPUs

You should be safe

[sand geyser]

yeah because they're not gonna push it elsewhere in the future

[maiden hull]

What are they going to do call the fbi to rip off my cpu?

[sand geyser]

i meant on new cpus

[maiden hull]

Ye

[fallen stump]

not yet

[sand geyser]

maybe blow it for manual voltage control over a set threshold

[fallen stump]

i will tho

[maiden hull]

Alr please make sure so you aren’t like “wtf why pc no work!?!?”

[sand geyser]

but blowing it for opening the oc menu is stupid af

[maiden hull]

Apparently AMD said they didn’t care if you did tho

Just if something does happen because of overclocking they’ll reconsider respecting your warranty

[sand geyser]

So they do care

How can they prove it was overclocking and not a mfg defect

[maiden hull]

Pull that story!

[sand geyser]

I guess, but they don't have to believe you :P

Although overclocking a threadripper is a crazy idea

[maiden hull]

Anti-consumer

STRONGTENT???

[sand geyser]

content but strong

[sand geyser]

I do wonder how a 5970x would run at 120w

7970x*

4w/core is very reasonable

[fallen stump]

actually should i use my cooler that came with my 3600 or should i save for a new one

also i should buy thermal paste before i upgrade

[sand geyser]

my opinion on this is just buying a quality air cooler that will outlast any other component in your pc

buy once, cool forever

[maiden hull]

Wait until someone says you’re stupid when they’re only recommending the BEST!!!!! AIOs every generation

[sand geyser]

aios will break

they have moving parts

a hunk of metal does not

[maiden hull]

BASED

Would you rather

Peacefully do productive work with a cheaper cooler that works for over a decade

OR

Stare at your expensive water cooler fearing of its doomsday in the next 3 years

[sand geyser]

i mean if your cpu saturates a dual tower air cooler you have a bigger problem called the power bill

[maiden hull]

Indeed

[maiden hull]

Time to go solar

[sand geyser]

solar is a bit paradoxical as well

[maiden hull]

Mfs be going solar only to realize they still need to pay $5

[sand geyser]

every kwh you spend, you don't sell

[maiden hull]

im being monitored help

every 60 seconds, a minute passes

together we stop this

please spread the word

dont think that's 100% how it goes but yes

[fallen stump]

should i use the cooler that came with my 3600 or save up for a new one

[sand geyser]

it's noisy but it works

if you don't wanna PBO, I reckon it's fine

and if you use headphones 24/7

[fallen stump]

yeah i use headphones

i should buy paste tho right

[sand geyser]

it comes with preapplied paste that is good enough

[fallen stump]

and is there any you recommend

[sand geyser]

meh, you'll likely get a tube if you buy a great cooler in the future

[fallen stump]

even if im taking it off of my old 3600?

[sand geyser]

no

wait what are you upgrading to

i thought you were asking if it's good for a 3600 LMAO

[fallen stump]

im upgrading to 5800x3d

[maiden hull]

Well he can use curve optimizer straight to -30

[sand geyser]

oh no get a better cooler

and paste

[maiden hull]

And yeah it’ll still go to like 80 C with an AIO

[fallen stump]

ok

[fallen stump]

lmao mb i prob should have given more context

[obsidian lion]

tellinq is my cooler

[sand geyser]

cooler is my cooler

[sudden mural]

oh no msi board

[limpid torrent]

Msi

[sudden mural]

its going to burn!!! 🤓

[sudden mural]

msi

[polar valve]

msi boards are 👍

[sudden mural]

gigbigibuyter

[sand geyser]

§

msi b450

[sudden mural]

to be filled by oem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1001304120327675974.webp?size=48&name=skull_real&quality=lossless

[sand geyser]

Default string

[maiden hull]

DEFAULT STRING?

[limpid torrent]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3YvZGP

wat would u guss change

not the cpu gpu tho

like ram and mobo

what should i change

who is a mobo ned

someone snitch they are getting mentioned

[lone jackal]

why intel

[limpid torrent]

mane i already have the cpu

and the gpu

[lone jackal]

us hould have went with

am

d

more upgrade path

[limpid torrent]

Nuh uh bruh i was on a tioght budget

i jsut wanna know what to change in mobo and ram

[lone jackal]

amd is cheaper i swer

the mobo and ram look fine

ddr5 600mh

z

32gb

im not parts nerd tho

i only know gpus

[limpid torrent]

who is

[lone jackal]

simone

cts

telinq

[limpid torrent]

@round hamlet

SIMONE!

[round hamlet]

am not simone

[limpid torrent]

yes u are

@lone jackal whos simone

[lone jackal]

quak

no

he left i think

no

i m not telling

[limpid torrent]

damn

[lone jackal]

:3

[limpid torrent]

😦

[lone jackal]

he has a relaly good name

just look thru people with really good names

[limpid torrent]

ohhh

simone

@polar valve

why did i @ hexal

i knew this was simone im just special

[nimble ingot]

mobo and ram is totally fin, maybe consider a z790 lightning / nova

what you really should upfate is nvme

Then gpu/ or 7800x3d or at least an 8 cores chip, 12700kf should be cheap

aand consider smth like 3060 /3070 used

[polar valve]

whats CTS said

consider getting either a 990 pro, p44 pro, or sn850x, instead of the nv1 you have now

[limpid torrent]

Ty

Alsp

Vlad said

That the clu was worthless ynless it was a z790 mobo

Y is that

[limpid torrent]

Also

Asrock B760M PG LIGHTNING LGA1700

would this mobo be better

or any sifference at all

[polar valve]

normally overclocking

is normally exclusive to z-series chipsets

but hes semi-wrong in this case

since b760m pg riptide has its own clock gen you can do bclk overclocking

which is still overclocking, but its different to normal

and can have some fuckery attached to it

i dont remember how voltage control works on b-series boards, but that might also sabotage it

if you wanna spend more & get a nice z790 board, go ahead 👍

its not a bad idea, its just more expensive

[limpid torrent]

and laso

Asrock B760M PG LIGHTNING LGA1700

i found this mobo

for like 20$ cheaper

and its being sold locally

whats the differnece between the riptide and this

[polar valve]

much weaker vrm, cant do bclk overclocking, but has a pcie 5.0 x16 slot

instead of the pcie 4.0 x16 slot on the riptide

[limpid torrent]

also ait simone dont stay here lemme tlel u sum

[polar valve]

apart from that theyre very very similar

[limpid torrent]

Gigabyte Z790 UD AC

this would be within my budget

like how much better would this mobo be

[polar valve]

ask CTS

hes like actually semi-knowledgeable on this

[limpid torrent]

ok simone love u

❤️ ❤️

[polar valve]

< 3 < 3

honestly, since youre not gonna be overclocking

i reckon youll be fine on most boards

[limpid torrent]

im gonna be ocing cpu and ram

[polar valve]

nvm then LOL

probably get a z790 board then

while bclk overclocking technically works, its much more annoying than normal oc'ing

[limpid torrent]

simone

are u knowledgable

on ssds

[polar valve]

not super

how come ?

[limpid torrent]

Solidigm P44 Pro n SK Hynix P41 1TB

[polar valve]

theyre identical

[limpid torrent]

those are the ssds im being told to buy

and they say they good

[polar valve]

they are

i run a p44 pro 2tb in my own system

[limpid torrent]

o

[polar valve]

990 pro is technically better iirc, but all three are top tier

soldigm p44 pro is just a rebranded sk hynix p41 with different firmware

bc sk hynix sold their ssd division to intel, so solidigm is that whole thing

[limpid torrent]

found a ASRock Z790 PG LIGHTNING DDR5 for 150$ its used tho

[sand geyser]

bclk would be on non-K skus as well though?

thinkpad mod

[polar valve]

yes

its allows overclocking of literally all cpu's on b-series boards ;D

[sand geyser]

sounds like amd

[polar valve]

massive ipad >:D

[sand geyser]

ipad's scren is only ~1cm shorter than the t480

[polar valve]

intel pentium ipad < 3

wait so many stickers

[sand geyser]

and 7 cm wider

[polar valve]

the intel intel intel ipad

[sand geyser]

real sticker is core i5 vPro 8th gen

1.128tb of storage and 22gb ram in that picture

[polar valve]

btw

[sand geyser]

along with 8 p-cores and 4 e-cores

[polar valve]

ran into a lil issue the other night

let me find the img

actually sabotaged by ampere

[sand geyser]

same

btw how the fuck is this even possible

[nimble ingot]

bclk oc is shit

you will fry you r shit

[nimble ingot]

tjats very nice

[lone jackal]

Should I not eat at school for two weeks to afford my p28 fans

[nimble ingot]

asrock has a very strong pcb for ram oc

[nimble ingot]

definitly

get t30

[lone jackal]

Or does anyone know cheaper alternatives with same// near perf

[lone jackal]

T30 would be three or four weeks

Instead of two

[nimble ingot]

then it will be 4 weeks

[lone jackal]

Means I don’t eat at all in school hrs tho

[nimble ingot]

please buy t30

[lone jackal]

R they really that much better

Why should I buy t30

[nimble ingot]

i do not eat all the day

it s no big deal

[nimble ingot]

yes

t30 destroy everything

and in low speed

[lone jackal]

Give advantages of buying t30 over p28

[nimble ingot]

better in every single way

don t tou realize how latina thick fans are wayyyy better

[lone jackal]

Lol

No white t30

So p28

Wait if I have p28s and my stock lian li fans will they both work or no

Will they be like misfunctional

[nimble ingot]

get t30

[maiden hull]

You can’t daisy chain P28 with non unifan fans

They need to be on separate headers

(And for god sakes don’t use a splitter)

[lone jackal]

What..

Explain to caveman what u mean

[maiden hull]

Which part of my statement did you not understand

[lone jackal]

Daisy chain

Unifans are the three together right

[maiden hull]

Yeah

Interconnected

[lone jackal]

Yea those r the ones im getting

[uneven goblet]

😡 i hate laptops

[lone jackal]

But I was planning to put two on front one on back

[maiden hull]

But Daisy chain also can happen with PWM headers too

[maiden hull]

That can work

[lone jackal]

Or if I can use my stock ones then idk what I’ll do

[maiden hull]

There’s a piece for that too

[lone jackal]

I’m nearly home but phone one perc

[maiden hull]

The stock ones terminate at a PWM header though right?

[lone jackal]

Yea they just coil really loud and like act like they spin and don’t

[maiden hull]

Oh right you have the grinding fans

GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE

[polar valve]

according to tpu theyre quite similar tbh

[maiden hull]

“no t30 destroys all all other fans are shit”

[polar valve]

im aware they dont go all the way up to the 3000rpm the t30 is capable of but reality is

most people dont run their fans cranked, so w/e

[maiden hull]

My P28 barely need to go past 1000 RPM

I’m not going to crank my fans at max speed

That’s just wasteful

Just for the 1 degree at idle!!!

[lone jackal]

what does it mean thru radiator

do i have to buy a radiator

[polar valve]

no

just for people with aios ( or custom loops)

[lone jackal]

all i really care abt is the fans work and are cheap (ish) and would be nice to have them not be loud asf

still lookig for suggestions so

if anyone has similar fans to those

and maybe cheaper

then

[polar valve]

js get the p28's or t30's

[lone jackal]

p28 it is

idk if they will fit into my lancool 205

[polar valve]

why wouldnt they ?

[lone jackal]

isdk

[polar valve]

theyre just 120mm fans ?

[lone jackal]

idjk the dimensipn

[polar valve]

if its literally any non itx standard

it will take 120mm fans just fine

[lone jackal]

ok

and with the other thing

[polar valve]

although lancool usually has some larger front fans ?

[lone jackal]

nah i have one front fan and one back fan they both the same afaik

also with the combination of the stock lancool ones with the p28

i have to buy the 3 fan bundle which i was gunna anyway

but where would i put them

my phone died so i will draw my current setup

[polar valve]

which version of the 205 do you hav e?

[lone jackal]

ermm

im not sure

the standard i thinl

[polar valve]

yeah that js comes with 120mm's default

[lone jackal]

this

[polar valve]

it does support 140mm front & top though

[lone jackal]

👍