Having Confusion between FFMPEG, Blur, and FlowFrames!

[pliant crane]

1. ffmpeg used for video/audio encoding purposes
2. blur -> frameblending/interpolation utility
3. flowframes -> interpolation using rife
   this is just a tldr btw

[subtle saddle]

so blur is a program that will interpolate your video (basically create more frames) and then resample it down to 60fps, creating a motion blur effect which people in the minecraft community find appealing. This usually requires a high input fps because interpolation works best when there is a lot of visual information to work with.

flowframes does interpolation with a different technology, and can be good but is generally not the preferred method

[pliant crane]

👍

ffmpeg is mostly used for converting videos from one format to another, upscaling (in the case of ctt scripts) and used by programs by blur/flowframes to render videos

[heady garden]

So I wouldn't need to really add a blur effect in mc by mods or in editing hmm

[heady garden]

But aren't they all in which case trying to do the same job of upscaling?

[heady garden]

Ah ok nvm so im guessing your saying Blur is the most beneficial ( does it also upscale the video? even though it uk makes a blur effect )

[pliant crane]

huh??

you got it wrong

[pliant crane]

this also

blur allows you resample your videos "like vegas" but also for interpolation

you can actually upscale directly in blur via ffmpeg using the correct ffmpeg filters

[heady garden]

So FFmpeg is the only upscaler / compressor while blur and FlowFrames are the similar ones which resample your videos both trying to create a Blur effect

[pliant crane]

ffmpeg is video/audio encoding utility...

[heady garden]

E

[heady garden]

Basically upscaler because thats all Ik what it does Lmao

Basically what I have seen it been used for Lmao

Or compression both

[pliant crane]

as i said you can upscale via blur directly via ffmpeg when passing clips through it

[heady garden]

But isnt doing it directly through your preferred script easier lol Instead of u tampering with each and every single filter......

[pliant crane]

reencoding multiple times isn't a good idea

consider this workflow
rec -> edit -> blur -> upscale

but i can just rec -> edit -> blur & upscale

[heady garden]

make it simpler...

mhm

Also would blur work fine with High fps recording because uk in in game ur obv going to get more then 200fps on average with a mid ranger system

[subtle saddle]

yeah it's preferred to use high fps recordings because otherwise you get artifacts

[pliant crane]

[heady garden]

ok!

[pliant crane]

they are Similar to FFmpeg well they all do similar Task of upscaling and compression of videos

where did you hear from

[heady garden]

"blur is a free, faster and open source alternative to #😴✨｜flowframes and FFmpeg's T-mix."

i just openly assumed it did the same tasks Lmao sry D:

Because if it was an alternative it be doing a similar task

Blur itself like the program provides the prebuilt in upscale / ffmpeg right? or do I get my own script lol

( dont judge Im a dumbass ik )

[pliant crane]

you need to use the correct args for that

but i don't remember which

[subtle saddle]

well blur uses ffmpeg so you can do both at the same time or you can do it separately

[heady garden]

args?

[pliant crane]

arguments

[heady garden]

ah ok

[heady garden]

well thats according to filters used... so im just gonna take it as its prebuilt into it

[subtle saddle]

well afaik the default blur config doesn't upscale

[heady garden]

wth is afaik??

[subtle saddle]

as far as I know

[heady garden]

Do uk how to configure so it does upscale lol ( bec i use a fucking TV for some reason as a monitor and its output is max at 720P and I need to Upscale it lol, to 1080pHD60fps not rly a large distance )

[subtle saddle]

I mean upscaling only increases the quality on youtube because it gives the video more bitrate

so unless you are uploading videos there, upscaling wont make a difference in quality

[heady garden]

so it would stay 720P but have a better bitrate....

eeee Idk what I was doing when I thought I knew what FFmpeg was lmao ( sry )

[subtle saddle]

ok are you uploading videos to youtube or not?

[heady garden]

I will soon Rn just setting up OBS, I keep finding problems lmao, or smth new that might help with recording ( Also a big problem with my vocals so I have to spend time working with those bec I got crappy mics )

[subtle saddle]

ok here https://discord.com/channels/774315187183288411/883723866671816755

this explains what upscaling does and why it can be helpful for youtube

otherwise it doesn't increase quality

[heady garden]

Ah ok thx

Als one more thing

whats a benefit with flowframes ( is it smth I should Use or is blur all I need )

[subtle saddle]

Blur is better in pretty much every scenario

especially if you can record 200+ fps

[heady garden]

mhm

[heady garden]

I average 200 - 300FPS during recording in MC

Sometimes going up to peaks of 600FPS for a couple of seconds so its quite variable but the most it averages it at is 200 - 300 FPS

also I checked out the video I get what FFmpeg Does but how can I configure Blur to Upscale videos too ( since Upscaling is still useful )

[outer surge]

ye im doing filter presets for smoothie

so people can just type in very short amounts of text and it expands to a predefined preset

let’s say you type HEVCNVENC 4k in the filters

you‘lol have it compressed with nvenc in hevc and also have it upscaled to 4k

no need to remember to type « -vf scale=3840:2160:flag=neighbor »

im not even sure if i typed it correctly

[heady garden]

Uhh wouldnt compressing it Also decrease the quality lol, plus upscaling it aswell would increase the size just being a drawbreaker

It wouldnt do anything...

So doesnt rly make sense...

[outer surge]

when outputting a video from blur or smoothie you need to reencode it

that means you need to have even just a tiny bit of compression (unless you go full lossless)

[heady garden]

I actually dont know what smoothie is lmao but im just gonna guess its like Blur

[outer surge]

it’s a mandatory step that is lit as bad as you think

[outer surge]

it is but i’m attaching rockets and complicated stuff to it

[heady garden]

So it keeps the Upscaling but compresses the file size by a tiny bit ig thats good

[outer surge]

i guess you can see it like that yeah

[heady garden]

basically making Blur 2.0 With Filters that allow it too give u a compressed upscaled video file

[outer surge]

blur could also do that

[heady garden]

._. that actually sounds cool ( get it done quickly me want, because im not sure what settings to use in Blur to get my vid upscaled lmao )

[outer surge]

when it’s encoding using ur cpu it is slow as shit and it already « compresses » it

[heady garden]

I use x264 lmao

[outer surge]

use the custom ffmpeg filters in #🔲｜teknos-blur

[heady garden]

because my GPU is weird as hell

Doesnt record my video...

Rx 580 8GB just so uk

[outer surge]

well

x264 is compressing ur videos

and itls probably very slow

[heady garden]

Oh I missed those ig ( u should maybe make a video on blur honestly lmao just explain it all So ppl lazy and dumbass like me can understand lmao )

[heady garden]

E Well idk how to fix the GPU honestly, whenever it records the audio comes out fine but the recording is pitch black nothing

And the end of the recording gives out a error

ok nvm now it works with VLC hmmm

idk weird

But in all honesty Is it really worth using the Rx 580 Radeon GPU I use to encode the video, or should I just stick with the Ryzen 9 3900x as my encoder

If u say Rx 580 Ill change it...

[outer surge]

ur video player’s fault ye play it with vlc

[outer surge]

it’ll encode faster but make bigger file (gpu is less efficient per filesize)

[outer surge]

it’s not as easy as better or worse, ull need to pick ur poison

[heady garden]

So im guessing its better for overall recording but the poison is that It will make a bigger file size, ig im fine with that ( most ppl are lmao )

Oh btw should I use Motion blur ( MC or In Editing with Blur )

[heady garden]

also im dumb so im going to ask this stupid question which will most likely trigger one of u

Whats the difference between MPV and VLC LMAO

[pliant crane]

better video players then movies and tv thats for sure

[heady garden]

well VLC is better then movies and tv too uk...