American Eagle service to Clearwater County

[sonic tulip]

Come on, in this day and age you wouldn't see that! Flights to Novak Airport would be at least twice daily on Envoy E-175s. You'd probably see Endeavor bringing CRJ-900s from Minneapolis and Detroit, GoJet CRJ-550s from ORD, and maybe even a Southwest 737-700 to Midway. While the airport and city don't reflect this at the moment, Van Buren would be a sizeable population center when completely built out and the additional traffic due to the government center, as well as the lack of other large airports in Superior, would call for a change in methodology for the airport. Instead of being a County airport it would likely become Novak-Van Buren Regional. KNVB is actually vacant, although typically the identifier is based off of the person or place it's named after originally. Hence O'hare being ORD, after its original name Orchard Airfield, or MCO, Orlando, which was originally named McCoy Air Base. Therefore, I think the code would be KNVK, which is also a vacant code.

Regardless of that TLDR, there's also the consideration that CWC now exists nearly 200 years in the future and you definitely wouldn't see E-170s then.

[silent jetty]

I think as Van Buren continues to sprawl that a completely new airport needs to be built altogether and commercial service to Novak should cease. From a transportation standpoint, getting to and from the airport is a nightmare. Any capital city should have quick and easy access to the airport. Plus with the new interstate in place, an opportunity may be available now for that sort of project. Overall however it’d be nice to see Phil get the in game population over 100k to make it look more deserving.

[sonic tulip]

I agree, except I think Phil is currently developing the last decent spot for an airfield! Clearwater County has a lot of hills which make airfield development a challenge. That's the entire reason Novak was put where it was- it's an awful location convenience wise but it's one of the few flat, unobstructed areas in the county. To be fair, Novak reads like a mix of Charleston WV and Pittsburgh PA's airports. PIT is in the middle of NOWHERE even though it's a fairly major airport. Charleston is a similar size and profile and serves a small state capitol like in Superior.

[silent jetty]

I agree 100 with those comparisons. Biggest difference from those locations to CWC: Easy and Direct highway access. If the move isn’t to build new, then the current route to the airport needs to be significantly improved.

[somber orbit]

Considering it’s a state capitol, I’d think we’d see at least a couple United mainline flights to Washington Dulles, maybe a couple 737s to ohaire a week but I wouldn’t be surprised if they stick to E-190s/175s during most of the week

Probably some delta embraers to MSP daily, and occasional flights to southern tourist destinations with Sun Country or Allegiant

Maybe a thrice weekly service to Duluth with a CRJ 200

Also keep in mind with Novak being where it is, we’d likely see a couple EAS routes go bye bye

[silent jetty]

I could easily see service to MSP, O’Hare, Detroit Metro, one of the major NYC area airports, Philly, one of the airports in the DMV metro, and (if they get international status) then service to Toronto…could easily see those destinations at a minimum even as a smaller regional level airport. That would get residents of the state connected to every major regional airline hub (I think)

[sonic tulip]

You will also see an MD-80 to Atlanta daily until 2020. It's Delta heritage.

[jade cloak]

Arguably international status wouldn't matter as much because Toronto has preclearance which means it would be super easy for them just to fly into the domestic terminal. Much like MSP and some of the other airports in the region have, I could also see flights to Winnipeg really easily, and perhaps even Thunder Bay given that it would be relatively close and a short flight for whoever wanted to do it. Domestically something like Orlando would also make a lot of sense even as a seasonal flight, although it's much more likely that's on something like Spirit or Allegiant.

[silent jetty]

Seasonal destinations like Orlando, Tampa, a South FL airport or Las Vegas could definitely be reasonable

[cinder cradle]

A airport like ICT mid con whould be fire in CWC

[silent jetty]

Good suggestion from a terminal size standpoint. Probably don’t need 3 runways

[sonic tulip]

Depends on terminal size. If there’s 25+ gates and ANG, then a departure and arrival runway would make sense as well as a crosswind runway. All of this is semi-pointless as we will probably not see the airport worked on at all before CS2.

[silent jetty]

Honestly doubt there’d be that many gates even in a revamped airport; thus why I said 2 runways. The state ain’t big enough. At best from a terminal size standpoint you’d be referencing airports like Boise, Sioux Falls Regional, Manchester (NH) Regional, TF Green (Providence)….they’re all main airports of their respective states that don’t have very high populations….which would fit the description on Superior State. Even if you use your imagination a bit and say okay Van Buren/CWC Metro Statistical Area is realistically 3-4x what the in game population says it is, you’re only talking about 234-312k with the state population as a whole likely under 1 million so you’re not getting 25 gates on a terminal at an airport that serves a state this small….and thus 2 runways is more than sufficient.