"you have to move on." (Fr0zen)

[proven slate]

connects to "I belong in hell" in "a conclusion"

[opal ether]

yeah and the fact it's blown up could mean that he sees no way up there anymore

[proven slate]

any chance you think

Stephen ||murdered|| Logan

[opal ether]

no it's unlikely

Stephen seems to regret what happened but he calls himself a "chicken" as in he's too scared of something

[proven slate]

yeah, that also means doing something heinous

A chicken may be a metaphor for "running away" from something

[opal ether]

i don't think he killed anyone but rather that Logan was depressed and Stephen didn't go to Logan's house to help

fearing the "rain" as others said

[proven slate]

Alot of loose ends really

There's still that ongoing theme of using shift 19 caesar cipher
There's also HIWA (Hope in Kurdish) but also means (The weather)

[opal ether]

in 3:52 this is likely why Stephen calls himself a "chicken"

[opal ether]

yeah i saw that

not sure what it means

[proven slate]

only clue I have

is that when you put in Stephen's first letter S, it becomes L for Logan

On the caesar ciphers

for HIWA

I have no information about it, unfortunately

But I can speculate something about running away from the rain, here meaning HOPE

[opal ether]

what about the fact that Logan is called in game Specter L is S

[proven slate]

The clearest connection is Stephen and Logan, honestly

[opal ether]

do we maybe try to switch the order?

could that lead somewhere?

like doing 19 the other way?

unlikely but who knows

[proven slate]

it's likely going to be the same

I tried it

[opal ether]

btw anyone knows who is this freshy that RGN talks about at the end of the video? i understand it is a youtuber but i've never heard of them

[proven slate]

"Disturbing footage of a player that never existed" by Freshi with an I

[opal ether]

thanks

hold the phone in Freshi's video it's Specter that sends an email to Freshi

that makes no sense

that would imply that Specter is alive

just realized this is another mention of a "he"

"this guy" is likely the same one that was in Stephen's house for 2 months

[gleaming veldt]

there is 2 pomoc guys?

[opal ether]

no i don't think so

[gleaming veldt]

there is 1 with the dot

and 1 without

[opal ether]

huh good point

it's as if the one that joined and the one speaking are not the same

but could that be an accident?

[gleaming veldt]

idk but ive seen a video with another thing like this

it was staged tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0Pnl4KBBQ 42:20

same thing kinda

[opal ether]

these are all the mentions of "this guy" or "he" that i could find but looking back i noticed that when Fr0zen says "he's watching me" it is after pomoc said "i will be watching" yet why would Fr0zen ask to be saved from 'help'?

is the one in Fr0zen's apartment pomoc? or is it someone else?

it really feels like something is missing from the story

some clue we haven't found yet

[gleaming veldt]

can pomoc be frozen's mind? telling him to stop pretending and move on?

[opal ether]

nah pomoc seems like a separate entity

there seems to be someone caging Fr0zen as pomoc said "well that was easy" and "and here i thought this guy was smart or something" and there is the constants mentions of the 'guy' this 'he' that keeps following Fr0zen and watching him

[opal ether]

also i don't think 'help' in this case could be coming from within

it sounds like external help

[earnest grove]

"pomóc" and "pomoc"?

[gleaming veldt]

yes

[earnest grove]

wondering if that's a mc limitation

pomóc means "to help"

"pomóc komuś" means "[to] help someone"

[rustic anvil]

i found out that the user translates to "backtom"or "backtome"which means "return to me",its the only answer that could fit on it .

[deft bay]

Could be but "pomóc" and "pomoc" are nearly the same. First one is a verb, the second a noun. Pomóc is to help sb and pomoc is the help

[noble gyro]

this is probably a no, but has there been anything new found related to the user handle? iirc in the video he said it could be an unlisted video but it's missing one letter/character

[median locust]

Did someone crack the username link thing? I tryed alot of decripting but no results yet

And i probably found the creators discord acount but thats nothing we can use

And he seams to be from Lithuania

Is there a original thread to this?

[balmy belfry]

i kinda wonder if this ARG be like other fictions where the main character has two side fairies: Spectre being an imaginary friend that Fr0zen sees in his world but is nonexistent (little demon) and Pomoc being the one to wake Fr0zen from his dreams (little angel)

-# or wtv other way you wanna name it if not lil angel/demon

[noble gyro]

i tried too, to no avail

maybe it's a link to another site but idk tbh

[median locust]

If its from another site than youtube there should be a hint to that site somewhere

[latent ruin]

Im too lazy to read the messages before so i might be mentioning some stuff that was already brought up but:

His community posts basically he has
"..."
and a long one that js means hope in multiple ways

and also something happend to him between the vid whit the french description and the one after that since there is a big upload gap

also another creator got emailed by logan the dudes name is Freshie so go watch his video which is oddly confusing

[median locust]

I hope this isnt another open end code like the wYYNG from the last video never got solved realy

[dire raven]

I can start working on this video discussion since the other one the person stopped posting videos.

[latent ruin]

https://youtu.be/TAcfCTbzr5g?si=O1-VUwI9CDoPsxOG

Theres some more info here but not much

[pine flare]

Has anyone figured out the username stuff

[noble gyro]

nope as far as i know
but im fairly certain there is something to it because they've hinted at it like 2 or 3 times in the videos (iirc)

[amber wharf]

maybe its something with the user id?

the channels id is UCMYDqronZ9mU0jl-txJEAfw

[gleaming veldt]

looks like a playlist

[amber wharf]

definetly not a playlist link

channel ids cannot be changed

but it also has a dash so maybe its hinting at replacing the dash from the username with something from the channel id to get a valid unlisted video link

[timber gorge]

feels far fetched

[jagged holly]

yeah definitely

it was steven’s inaction that led to logan’s death, although i’d like to say that smth steven did served as the catalyst for it

I feel like the accidental hit with the pickaxe and the giving the stick to make a sword symbolize steven accidentally hurting logan in some way, like brushing off his cries for help, and that catalyst is basically “giving logan the reason” (the stick to make the sword) to quit the game

[jagged holly]

maybe steven’s refusal to move on and accept logan’s death is sorta keeping logan in a purgatory of existing in steven’s memories and the guilt manifests as the “guy in his apartment” (who is just a hallucination but steven thinks is real)

[timber gorge]

tbh freshi's video has some narrative issues like leaving out some details. I don't think freshi's video is credible since they used the email start which makes the theories and implications not make sense

[opal ether]

huh interesting... that could be a possibility

[jagged holly]

those phrases throw a wrench in the therapist theory but I think it could be pomoc trying to help steven and exploring the memories, but steven interprets it as an intruder to his life and thus sees the messages that way

[jagged holly]

like I don’t wanna turn the whole story paranormal but I feel like this isn’t too disruptive to the story being told, spectre is a ghost who can’t move on until steven does, albeit steven moves on by quitting the game

[timber gorge]

hold up there's theories? what's the therapist theory?

I've been gone for like 8 hours

more like 12

[jagged holly]

pomoc is a therapist trying to help steven, but he rejects the help, banning pomoc from his life by refusing to go to therapy again and so pomoc can only look on from afar. by revisiting the memories, certain events “click” for steven as the things building up to logan’s death (symbolized by the gravestone being built up), with some additions from the therapist such as the sign “you have to stop pretending”

the first 3 videos are basically telling the story of steven revisiting those memories through therapy, all the videos after that are steven’s descent into depression once he stops going to therapy

[timber gorge]

okay, makes sense. maybe since he didn't finish therapy he had the memories sitting in his memory consciously and that was worse for his mental health?

he also seems to not take what pomoc says seriously

[jagged holly]

yeah

there’s over 1000 messages in this channel lol

but you can read through them for more of a clear picture I think

[timber gorge]

all I missed was the last 8 hours

[jagged holly]

I think I talked about it before that

[opal ether]

what if this "guy" is Specter? like what if this is somehow paranormal and Specter holds a grudge for what he sees as betrayal?

[timber gorge]

I'm watching the first video and it seems that either spectre is hiding smth from frozen or frozen is refusing to see that spectre is hurting. Im referring to the beginning where spectre sends frozen to grab wood

[opal ether]

what if the reason that Specter couldn't be seen past a certain point because pomoc is coming and he something like a priest and he is trying to free Fr0zen

[noble gyro]

exorcism

[jagged holly]

well pomoc shattered the illusion

[opal ether]

idk im running out of ideas

[timber gorge]

I'm kinda iffy on the paranormal idea

[opal ether]

same but there are a few holes that don't add up

something is missing and i have no clue what

[timber gorge]

like what?

[opal ether]

the constant reference to "this guy" or "him"

"he's watching me"

so on and so forth

[timber gorge]

maybe he's referring to his therapist? or he's paranoid since Logan died?

[opal ether]

no pomoc said "this guy"

[opal ether]

look at the first pic here

[timber gorge]

ohhh maybe pomoc hadn't figured out who died just that someone died

[opal ether]

i don't think so

it sounds like he knows of an individual that is interfering with the "help"

[timber gorge]

feels kike he's hallucinating and since he left therapy he has to face his inner demons alone?

[opal ether]

pomoc is antagonistic against "this guy"

[noble gyro]

when i watched the video that was my initial thought too, like something was blocking him from joining the server or something

[opal ether]

yeah either Specter is against pomoc or there is a missing entity

[timber gorge]

maybe Steven has abusive parents? that are invading his privacy?

[opal ether]

doesn't sound like it to me but idk

[timber gorge]

cause like that would explain the hidden "hes watching me" and he could be his dad

[opal ether]

but there has been no mention of parents so far

[timber gorge]

idk it's just a theory

[opal ether]

there would be something if that was true no?

https://tenor.com/view/game-theory-game-theory-its-just-a-theory-game-theorists-gif-20883020

[timber gorge]

looking at the evidence that's the first thing I thought tbh

[opal ether]

i think it has to be an entity that has been mentioned somehow no? i think it is either somehow Specter or idk

[timber gorge]

maybe spectre is haunting him?

[opal ether]

the best working theory i have so far is Specter holds a grudge

btw don't think anyone talked about why is pomoc is red

and why is he not a full color

there is some black bits in the skin

[timber gorge]

maybe he's a mix of an external thing and itself? like a therapist in your mind?

like pomoc could be a manifestation of his therapists recommendations and he doesn't represent them properly so they're a mix of themselves and their therapist. and that could be happening between spectre and himself with the crowns being shared as well.

[opal ether]

but why would pomoc speak of "this guy"

[timber gorge]

maybe spectre is "this guy"

[opal ether]

yeah but that would only make sense if the "Specter holds a grudge" theory is true no?

[timber gorge]

yeah I think spectre blames frozen

[jagged holly]

I interpreted it as referring to steven’s protections on the minecraft server (his mind)

despite not being whitelisted, pomoc was able to hack into the server (as a therapist), but steven interprets that as his mind being weak to infiltrate and so sees pomoc’s dialogue in that way

[timber gorge]

that also makes sense

damn it why does everything make sense

[jagged holly]

I don’t think spectre originally held any grudge, saying “you need to move on” and “don’t let the pit of despair consume you” as his last warnings to steven to not fall into the same depression he did

but maybe the purgatory of pretending that steven has created makes spectre hold a grudge?

[opal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/ameno-meme-thinking-hmmm-gif-3844418297646103366

[timber gorge]

have y'all been looking at the descriptions?

cause the descriptions could be important.

cause some of them have ciphers and cryptic text

[blissful lake]

Ye

On another note there has been a huge boom of membership on the server after that video

[jagged holly]

?

what server

[blissful lake]

This server

Before it was stabilized at around 16,070 people but now it's at like 16,110

And still growing

[jagged holly]

????

oh the discord server

[mint beacon]

It was really fun to edit dis ovo

[blissful lake]

I just looked at your bio and then my brain short circuited

[wraith cairn]

This is a consequence of how the tracker works: since it's tracking some object in the distance, it's actually an inverse of what the mouse is doing. That's why it needs to be flipped

I hope that makes sense

Like if I move the mouse up, the flower will move down

so he is actually moving his mouse in the shape of the letters. Maybe I should clarify this as a footnote

"you have to move on." (Fr0zen)

[opal ether]

i see thanks for clarifying

[tardy stump]

honestly

imo this is a extremely cliche arg

[mint beacon]

LMAO

It is funny timing yes

[sharp chasm]

guys

there IS NOT a link

[sharp chasm]

i dont think spectre holds a grudge at all

hes more of a proxy to the rational side of stevens mind

and when spectre leaves that part disappears

pomoc (the therapist as it were) then tries stepping in and effectively tries to become the rational side

but steven is already too deep into emotional hell and rejects it

[sharp chasm]

no its gotta be pomoc

the therapist

hes the only other character besides steve and loganm

[sharp chasm]

its probably the latter

or maybe steven DID see logan hurting

and was too much of a chicken to step in

but yea i think we need to reel in the crazy ahh theories that arent based on anything apart from a shred of evidence

so far what i have come up with fits flawlessly

atleast in my interperetation'

like theres literally no evidence stevens parents are in here anywhere

for examplke

[jagged holly]

do you wanna write a summary of that interpretation

[sharp chasm]

sure

itll be a pretty long summary though

but basically to me after looking into everything, i feel like the entire story is about stevens denial of his friend dying finally unraveling after 3 years. what we are seeing throughout is that unraveling specifically

i think the first 2 videos are either him reminiscing or hallucinating

i also think spectre in a way represents the rational side of stevens mind

but anyways

in stevens case he goes through the stages of grief of course

but

when some people finally get to the acceptance stage

finally at the very least acknowledging what happened

the emotional toll of it all is too much to handle

thats why when he sees the gravestone after everything that went on during the story

the wither roses start damaging him

the entirety of the 3 years of welled up emotions forced him to confront the truth that his friend is dead

hes slowly consumed by his emotions and depression as well

which is why we see the house become more encased in concrete as the series progresses

particularly after the sudden drop into the sea lantern hole

which to me i feel like represents some sort of psychotic break

it represents the death of any rational part his mind has left and forces him into the depressive spiral

anyways

at the end of it all

when he stalls going into the house

to me that is him finally making up his mind on if hes going to end it all

after all the entire house is just encased in black in white, hes overrun by his emotions by this point

after that when he goes into the nether

hes locked into the decision to end it

the one hallway in there beckons him specifically to end it after saying he is retired on the sign

him logging off the game is the only action that occurs outside of his mind as well

which to me means he "logged off minecraft"

which is a euphemism for suicide

so tldr, the emotions from his friends death well up so much he is forced to confront reality, cant take it, and because of the overwhelm kills himself

this also ties into an exact mental state ive been in before

and seen other people in

the stages of grief dont necessarily have to end in a positive

[manic grove]

I have a feeling the "ending = suicide" interperation can't be 100% the true ending, as suicide was more represented by when steven wanted to jump into the pitch black pit, but was stopped when logan told him "once you go in there's no going back", I feel like steven has a sudden volt of hope, letting go of the chickens, stopping all his substance abuse, even thinking about life in a positive way, then finally, at the end, he lets go of the delusion he's in, finally leaving the world, deciding that, instead of ending it, he should retire his delusion.

maybe i'm being a bit positive, but there's really no outright confirmation to what the ending is, I'm not saying it can't be true for him to suicide, I'm saying it's more of a 50% between both ending, he could have ended it, he also could have simply stopped the insane mental state he was in, deciding to find a better alternative other than suicide.

[sharp chasm]

no it wasnt

[manic grove]

though please correct me if i'm wrong i'm open to thoughts

[sharp chasm]

the hole wasnt a representation of suicide itself, its a representation of the depression

the void hes in comes after the emotions consume him

thats what he was thinking about

basically its a representation of suicidal ideation

[sharp chasm]

i do think you are being too positive

remember, everything exists within stevens mind

not within the delusions specifically

[jagged holly]

yeah based on the dialogue from when he is in the void at that one part

[sharp chasm]

ive been in that exact mental state too

it isnt fun

[blissful lake]

I'm getting pinged every 2 seconds from this thread
-# You have to move on

-# jk

[jagged holly]

lol

[vivid dock]

@wraith cairn https://youtu.be/75CRYJHUeI4?si=zbGp1m5NzKLZc6H9&t=82
plz censor this part or you might get a bonk from youtube

in the chat you left bad word uncensored

1:22

[jagged holly]

the “hell yeah”???

[vivid dock]

it's "sh*t"

[jagged holly]

I thought it was censored?

[vivid dock]

nah it censored before but he forgot to censor again

[vivid dock]

and yes Freshi has already solved these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAcfCTbzr5g

[sharp chasm]

ofc it has THAT kinda title

why do so many of these videos have titles like this

[vivid dock]

yea ctrl c ctrl v

[sharp chasm]

like atleast make it something else interesting

atleast rgns titles are more interesting yk

but hell i think something even better would be closer to "a players dive into mental hell"

that still sounds cool but atleast isnt "disturbing footage bla bla"

yk

i personally think rgn covers it much better

[vivid dock]

yea he dig much deeper

[sharp chasm]

i think he also gets more to the point at what the series is hinting at

[vivid dock]

okay but are you in UTC+7, like it said 12am is <t:1774242000:t>

[sharp chasm]

... what

does that have to do with anything

[vivid dock]

nah nothing

[dire raven]

I think this person has stopped posting

The last time he posted was a year ago

[timber gorge]

freshi's starts with smth that doesn't line up at all with what we've been determining

[sharp chasm]

yes because he doesnt dive very deep into it

[timber gorge]

I have a theory

maybe frozen ending the last video in the nether symbolizes him ending it in his personal hell of a mental state

[sharp chasm]

... ive been saying that the entire time

like i said before not everyone comes out of grief positively

for some people it literally kills them

from the sheer overwhelm of

[timber gorge]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

uh

everything

[dire raven]

I think the username was a YouTube link but then it got removed

[sharp chasm]

i dont think it was at all

the username probably refers to the channel name, not the handle

[timber gorge]

I think it's meant to be a red herring. the handle at least.

I'll still look into it but it's far fetched

[sharp chasm]

no its us being stupid and reading into somethign that doesnt exist

theres literally nothing there

we are supposed to be looking at the channel name

[timber gorge]

at 13:36 of the last video he almost types "I don't want to kill myself"

[sharp chasm]

he backtracks because he reconsiders it

[timber gorge]

yeah

also the description of the last video refers to someone watching them and that they haven't been safe for 2 months

[sharp chasm]

that part feels like it doesnt fit at all

maybe its more of something to do with steven hallucinating

not like he isnt prone to it in the series

[jagged holly]

yeah I feel like at some parts it’s trying to be a creepy arg but the part that stands out is the story grounded in real human experience and it leans into that more

[sharp chasm]

exactly

[timber gorge]

that part stood out a bunch

so maybe he feels like someone's in his head and has been pushing him towards ||killing himself||?

[brittle violet]

i found a minecraft server with this code but i didnt see much in it from a cursory look

Any coords or seed info from the videos by any chance?

[timber gorge]

wdym you found a server how exactly did you do that?

[brittle violet]

It's a minehut server

I used ./join in lobby with the code

So idk if it's a coincidence or not

[timber gorge]

so you just tried ./join with it?

[brittle violet]

Yea

Minus the hyphen

Also nothing after that first block of text in that message

You spawn into a shattered savanna(?)

[jagged holly]

that was in the video

[timber gorge]

is anyone else online?

[brittle violet]

I was just on the server but I logged off

[jagged holly]

what code did you use

[timber gorge]

what's the server IP for the minehut server?

[brittle violet]

/join bDcmPktqQm

mc.minehut.com

[timber gorge]

thx

[brittle violet]

I think it's free server, so will have limit of 10 people on at a time

And 4 hour playtime a day lol

Hopefully not just some random server

[timber gorge]

imma see if I can get on and see anything

[timber gorge]

lol

my PC is laggy asf tho

I'm joining

[brittle violet]

Let us know if you find anything!!!

[daring pond]

This analysis was kinda weak imo

[timber gorge]

imma check it out tbh. wonder if minehut will reject mods?

[dry hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcmPktqQmRhnatoxmhhfoxhg
Hey guys
I ended up with this link that leads to a video but its not available unfortunately is it deleted or something?

[timber gorge]

try it as a playlist instead cause that's way too long for a video

[dry hawk]

I'll try

[timber gorge]

I am encountering issues running Minecraft right now

[brittle violet]

awww

[timber gorge]

I installed some mods that will hopefully aid in our search

don't look a lot

it doesn't appear inhabited

it also looks to be an islant

*island

now if someone were to be able to get on it and see if they can find the seed of it and the video that would be useful to see if they're the same

[brittle violet]

yeah that would explain why i havent been able to see much

i wish /seed was a thing on this server

[timber gorge]

we could theoretically find the seed

theoretically

I think I ask my friend

[timber gorge]

I'll try at 10 pm UTC

[jagged holly]

if we only have 4 hours per day we should spend it wisely

[timber gorge]

yeah

probably use it during when we can organize the most people at the same time to search

I got a friend helping me now

[timber gorge]

what hours should we do?

[timber gorge]

we'll need to pick hours that the most of us can play at the same time

[jagged holly]

i’m available a lot of the time

[timber gorge]

what time UTC does minehut reset it's time you can play for the day?

[latent ruin]

Has this been found or am i js repeating stuff?

[jagged holly]

that actually hasn’t been mentioned

[latent ruin]

Not actually my discovery

its in the comments of the post

[jagged holly]

oh

ok

[gleaming veldt]

have been

[gleaming veldt]

#1485014716073115880 message

[weary dawn]

I think steven was using programmer art resource pack

[opal ether]

yeah that was talked about

[weary dawn]

K

Have anyone checked out that red building where pomov was watching

?

[opal ether]

we found at most what seems could be the server where it all happened but we couldn't find the actual locations

so no

[weary dawn]

So that building was not there

[opal ether]

we haven't found any building yet

just a server that could be the one but we aren't yet sure

[weary dawn]

Hmm

[opal ether]

the plan at the moment is to wait for enough to be able to hop on and search that server

[weary dawn]

So the version was 1.20 or 1.21.11 as I also saw copper ore

[opal ether]

yes it seems like a newer version despite the texture pack

that seems purposeful as to imply that Steven is holding back on to the past

[weary dawn]

Yup because when they went into the cave in which there was a sign I saw steven mine an iron ore and beneath it was the copper ore but then why didn't the locator bar was on, my first thought was that it was an singleplayer world but the minehut message eliminated my thought but there also be seen that he might disable the feature

In the minehut server there is a command prob

Like gamerule

[opal ether]

yeah likely

[weary dawn]

/gamerule LocatorBar false

[opal ether]

it would be like the texture pack

he is trying to not see the new stuff as he hold the past too dear

[weary dawn]

Hm

[latent ruin]

That does make alot of sense

[weary dawn]

How?

[latent ruin]

He wanted to simulate an older version like the one he played whit Logan

[opal ether]

i mean he out right ignores the copper

[weary dawn]

So that why he turned on programmer art

[latent ruin]

yea

Yes

[weary dawn]

I have used programmer art so much

I gtg

I will tell this later

[latent ruin]

also have people made theorys about the upload gap

That stands out to me

[latent ruin]

Guys what if we try to email the email from freshies video

to check if its real

[noble gyro]

ive seen like 10 arg videos with the same title

kinda funny

[noble gyro]

one thing is that the new 1.14+ textures were added in like 2019 if I remember correctly, but maybe steven and logan played way before 2019, which is probably likely so idk what I am saying here lol

[vast moon]

because nobody can come up with new ideas

[latent ruin]

Do i do it

[opal ether]

go for it

[weary dawn]

When steven is like imagining what will happen when he drop into the whole what it we put the whole clip into a spectrogram

[noble gyro]

what if we spectrogram all the videos

:trol:

[weary dawn]

Bruh

[weary dawn]

So let's do it

Send me the channel

[noble gyro]

i think its pinned in this uhhh

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMYDqronZ9mU0jl-txJEAfw

[weary dawn]

Ok

[noble gyro]

its pinned in this channel but wtv

i can try aswell, but idk what software to use for it

[weary dawn]

a website mybe

[latent ruin]

what do i even email

do i js go whit hello may i know who this is

[weary dawn]

i am going to sectrogram the video "truth you are hiding"

wait lemme instal bandicam

ok starting rn

gng

down recording

anyone want to see the spectrom gram can join vc

[latent ruin]

What do i put as the subject of the email

[weary dawn]

idk

come lounge

[latent ruin]

i sent the email

[weary dawn]

k

come games

[weary dawn]

then i can stream

nice

Also take ss

Screenshots

[weary dawn]

i saw a morse code type shii

[latent ruin]

fr?

[weary dawn]

it was very faint

but i could see that

[latent ruin]

i saw some very weird stuff too

[weary dawn]

yeah i also think there were faint text

[latent ruin]

i think it said minecraft king at some point

im not entirely sure tho

[weary dawn]

yea

heres the video lemme compress it and see it for youself

[latent ruin]

Imma put it through Ai to see if it detects anything

[weary dawn]

ok

heres

heres the cid

vid*

poor quality due to compressor

[latent ruin]

okay imma run it through gemini

[weary dawn]

Anything you got?

Try using different AI too

[latent ruin]

Wait im having some minor complications but im working on it

[weary dawn]

Ok

[latent ruin]

ai didnt find anything

[latent ruin]

lemme check if i got a response from the email

i didnt

[latent ruin]

8141 60 1047

This might mean something

[brittle violet]

coordinates(?)

[opal ether]

where did you get this?

[latent ruin]

js nevermind i dont think its anything

its random af

[opal ether]

but how did you get it?

i mean it could be something

as Muon said it could be coordinates

[latent ruin]

Took the first letters of every vid took the reversed and regular version it was 16 letters make that into a 4x4 grid whit corresponding numbers and turned that into coords

the 4x4 grid was the only dechiper that made sense at least a lil bit when i translated

[latent ruin]

yea its meant to be coords

Also one thing that i dont know if anyone talked about right before the upload gap he wrote in his comments: i will continue to upload my findings

[weary dawn]

Um

Prob

[latent ruin]

dawg did u see the way i got that

[weary dawn]

It should be

Yep

[latent ruin]

its too random i think

[weary dawn]

Yea

But what if we check it out

Like a book and quil in a chest

[latent ruin]

I mean

it doesnt hurt to try

[weary dawn]

Yea

[latent ruin]

If that doesnt work reverse x and z coords

[weary dawn]

Yea

There are two direction

What about the spectrogram

[latent ruin]

8141 60 1047 or 1047 60 8141

[weary dawn]

Yup

[latent ruin]

wdym

[weary dawn]

The video in the spectromgram

[latent ruin]

yea?

[weary dawn]

What if we take all the video and put them in a spectrogram

[latent ruin]

ohhhh

well that would take alot of time

[weary dawn]

Like i did for one video

[latent ruin]

also theres something strange

in one of the descriptions it said heavens to beatsy

which is something my an old person would say

and steven was 17 or 20 i dont remember

but u get the point

[sharp chasm]

he was 20 in the series

[weary dawn]

How?

[latent ruin]

Whit these typa mysteryes we gotta get Wifies on this lol

[timber gorge]

tbh I think we should try not to damage anything near spawn. go like 1k blocks in a random direction

either x, z, -x, or -z

I'm thinking the one towards that jungle biome

idk which one that is tho

or one of the ones towards ocean

[vivid dock]

can you stream that in vc

@timber gorge @sharp chasm @latent ruin you can use baritone

[timber gorge]

I can stream in VC on <t:1774474200:f>

does that work for anyone else?

wait no

nvm

I can do that time

[sharp chasm]

what

why are we going on a minecraft server now

[lyric ember]

I sincerly and merely think this isnt good as the other ARG's covered by the RGN

I dont want to be negative and this commentary doesnt aim to be negative

I think the message of the story is well written and the way it reveals the message is good but I dont think its good as an ARG or mystery since there is really nothing much to discuss or debate

[sharp chasm]

theres a lot to discuss

but it isnt truly an arg

its a story thats meant to be interpereted more than an arg

one that has a lot of interperetations depending on the mental states youve found yourself in over your lifetime

like i went ridiculously deep on this story for over 3 hours specifically because i thought id be able to make a cohesive analysis based on mental states i have both seen and been in

[still lodge]

https://namemc.com/skin/f75700b617f30e12

[rustic anvil]

.

[latent sentinel]

spectre kinda cute ngl

[jagged holly]

isn’t he 17 years old

[sharp chasm]

the person you replied to is 16 broski

[vast moon]

and the person who replied to you is 13

[sharp chasm]

and the person who replied to you is 18

[vast moon]

nice self contradiction (nvm i'm stupid and can't read)

[sharp chasm]

im the person who replied to you

and i am 18

i see no contradictions here

[vast moon]

i just realised i'm tired and unable to read

[timber gorge]

y'all are so good at not contradicting yourselves

[timber gorge]

I also think we found a fricking Minecraft world attached to it so it may have more to it

[jagged holly]

anything found in the world yet?

[timber gorge]

wasn't able to get in the world today due to time constraints irl.

so no not to my knowledge

[sharp chasm]

so like

whats this whole world thing

what happened to the series analyzing thing 😭😭😭

[timber gorge]

we found there is a minehut server

their @

the thing after the -

is a valid minehut /join

/join bDcmPktqQm

mc.minehut.com

[timber gorge]

we should probably figure out if it's a free server or not.

[sharp chasm]

how the hell

do people find this

how did anyone find this

[timber gorge]

they just tried it as a minehut join code and it worked

Muon Neutrino tried it I mean

and it worked

[hasty yoke]

Did you just guess Minehut or was it because the red server info text that appeared at some point?

RGN linked it pomóc but apparently it was a generic server info text according to a Youtube comment, tho they didn't specify what server

[timber gorge]

yeah I assume that's what they did

[hidden birch]

and here i was coming here thinking its an imgur link

aw this world is so annoying spawn isn't related to anything 🙁

[hasty yoke]

About a year ago, this was released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAcfCTbzr5g
Less views than RGN but still more than original ARG channel, so it could be a troll

The only other thing that was on my mind is bDcmPktqQm‬
Has 3 capital letters, so maybe you can shift those to X,Y,Z and get coords somehow. On the other hand, the b-prefix throws me off, so probably wrong

[brittle violet]

That message that was in the video seemed identical to minehuts warning but if it's just generic then it might be worth seeing if that code works on other servers too

[timber gorge]

sorry

i found stuff

like a civilization type of thing

it looks massive

[brittle violet]

wait where :OOOO

[timber gorge]

wait nvm

its a bug with my minimap i think

the chunks arent actually like that

cause its different now that I've walked a bit

i think imma go in hte positive Z direction cause thats where im going

[brittle violet]

so i tried going to x1000 z 8000 but i did not find anything

[timber gorge]

do you have any mods installed?

[brittle violet]

i do not

[timber gorge]

ah

[brittle violet]

so it may be worth if you try

[timber gorge]

heres the only mods I have installed on the installation

which I tried to not use many

[brittle violet]

oooooo

distant horizons sounds helpful

[timber gorge]

yeah it massively improves how far you can take render distance

[daring pond]

Hi. Is this connected to fr0zen?

Or is this just something unintended?

[timber gorge]

we think it is

were on the minehut server we think is connected

[hasty yoke]

There is also the idea that the code is a generic YouTube code and the username referred to "Fr0zen", have to check if each time it is mentioned, it was at a moment where Steven was indeed "frozen in time"

[pine kelp]

wait that worked?

i swear i tried it when i first noticed it

[pine flare]

Can we even be sure the minehut thing is connected to fr0zen

[rapid field]

No

[vivid dock]

rgn failed

it not working

[sharp chasm]

thats waht i was saying

[vivid dock]

the minehut server still vaild but that's not right i think

[sharp chasm]

theres nothing special about the code

[vivid dock]

@daring pond

[sharp chasm]

at all

[vivid dock]

it's the best

[sharp chasm]

yall are reading too deep into the channel name thing cus the channel name does not refer to the handle

the "display name" is the userbame

[vivid dock]

but maybe servers don't allow cheating

[rapid field]

But it's fun though

Also Idk why it refers to the channel username specifically to just signify frozon when we already see it in videos in so many different ways so many different times

[sharp chasm]

its referring to its importance in the moment specifically

not overall

[rapid field]

Sure 🙂

[timber gorge]

given how empty it is i think it could be a troll

[hasty yoke]

Also why would Minehut keep am empty server running for this long

[brittle violet]

Yeah it's pretty empty

[brittle violet]

They have a 2 year limit

[lyric ember]

maybe

the user-blabla thing is a code we need to fix

in the video some letters are reveresd while written and some is straight

we can see this as the mouse projectory

[sharp chasm]

no you dont

youre reading into skmething that cant be read into

the user bla bla is the default handle for channels without a specified tag

[blissful lake]

I just started watching the video, and I'm wondering two things. Is there a meaning to the items in the chest, and is the cut at 2:02 of the vid intentional, hiding something, or just a mistake?
-# sorry if something got explained in the vid but I didn't know

Items in the chest

I'm noticing two things about this. One, there is enough space for another 3x3 chicken thing in the middle, an the other is the numbers never go above 7 and seem to maybe have a pattern

I also have a mini thought process about it here #media message

[jagged holly]

we think it's a code but havent solved it yet :/

[timber gorge]

no it isn't to my knowledge

[blissful lake]

Did you check my thought process?

[timber gorge]

maybe it's base 7?

[jagged holly]

i mean USERNAME seems to point to the in-game name, have we tried looking at namemc for clues?

[timber gorge]

or it's bits?

[empty laurel]

It's interesting they're both missing a corner mirroring eachother in a way

[blissful lake]

Perhaps we need to fill in the blank in the corners

[timber gorge]

so it could be ASCII

[blissful lake]

Stole the words right out of my mouth

Lol

[sharp chasm]

no, base 8

[timber gorge]

each number representing a 4 digit binary value

[timber gorge]

I meant 8

cause you gotta have 0

[sharp chasm]

ill throw it into a converter

ive me a second

[timber gorge]

remember binary is weird so 2 would be 0010

[blissful lake]

The zero could be the blank spaces in the corners

[timber gorge]

yeah

[empty laurel]

I haven't mentioned it but I did look and it didn't seem like anything there really

[sharp chasm]

357 221 238 188 19 36

thats the numbers in base 10 if im correct

[blissful lake]

On a random note what character is your PFP?

[timber gorge]

NameMC doesn't have those usernames (Fr0zen or Spectre) as their real accounts

[timber gorge]

that doesn't seem usefuo

*useful

[blissful lake]

Is anyone going to talk about the cut??????

[jagged holly]

i feel like it's some unique square cipher, like polybius or pigpen where the format is the important part and not just the order of digits

[timber gorge]

i think we do the 3 bit binary cipher

[sharp chasm]

is this any useful

[timber gorge]

3 bit 4 I know 8 can't count

[timber gorge]

looks to be gibberish

[sharp chasm]

mm

[blissful lake]

Dang

[sharp chasm]

ok

[timber gorge]

I'll try to figure it out

[jagged holly]

wait how long is the channel thing

[blissful lake]

They both add to exactly 32 chicken

This could be very important

[sharp chasm]

oh interesting

[jagged holly]

they got a stack and divided it?

[timber gorge]

10 characters minus hyphen

[jagged holly]

idk

[blissful lake]

Lol

That would be extremely anticlimactic

[empty laurel]

Power from chainsaw man

[blissful lake]

I thought it was from that anime but I couldn't be sure because I'd never actually seen it

[jagged holly]

maybe it's like every digit you shift that much in the alphabet idk

[sharp chasm]

no definitely not

[timber gorge]

that would be similar to a A1Z26 cipher and I think it looks closer to binary

[jagged holly]

like 5 = e
5+4 = 9 = i
9 + 5 = 14 = n

[sharp chasm]

also the amount of columns of chicken is the same amount of characters as fr0zen

is

[blissful lake]

Wait a minute could this be something like sudoku

[sharp chasm]

ig

[blissful lake]

If the box is both add to 32

[jagged holly]

no

[sharp chasm]

why would it be\

it cant

[blissful lake]

Then could the rows missing numbers add also to 32

[sharp chasm]

no'

[timber gorge]

maybe it's row and column sums?

[sharp chasm]

why

[blissful lake]

This is a very weird take though because there are multiple of the same numbers

[sharp chasm]

?

[timber gorge]

it's an idea and we like ideas

[sharp chasm]

the guy who made this definitely did not go that deep

yalls ideas are getting almost outlandish atp

[blissful lake]

Uhhh

Ok

To be fair I did just join the server like a week ago

[timber gorge]

nvm this doesn't work

[sharp chasm]

i dont think theres anything beyond the arg itself and maybe the morse code

[blissful lake]

Also sometimes these ARG's really do go that deep bro

[sharp chasm]

this is definitely not one of those cases

i know they can go deep but i highly doubt that this is the case here-

the chicken thing is interesting and probably has something to it

but

still

[timber gorge]

I think we should see each idea to it's extreme

and the Minecraft world I think is a troll

[sharp chasm]

but it leads nowhere

[timber gorge]

we don't know that yet

[sharp chasm]

unless yall think it is but it isnt actually

ill see what i can do about the chicken

[timber gorge]

it is NOTHING

empty as hell

[blissful lake]

Me reading your bio, (sees mewo)
Neuron activation

[jagged holly]

i mean theres unsolved questions but it doesn't feel like theres much more to discover in terms of the message

[timber gorge]

the world seems too suspicious to be real

so I think it's a troll

[sharp chasm]

ye

[sharp chasm]

legit though i do also wonder if this is just a case of "structured but meaningless"

sometimes its like that

it looks meaningful and just isnt

[blissful lake]

Guys did you just see the absolute bot scrolling all across the channels advertising (stuff) 💀

they need to be stopped

-# Yes I know they just went through each channel once and they already stopped but it's a figure of speech let me have this

[jagged holly]

i saw unread messages appear but when i looked at the channels they were already banned

[empty laurel]

I'm crazy I know but could these be coordinates?

[blissful lake]

I do have a picture but I ain't sending it bro

All I'm saying is the server had 18+ on it

-# I am dying inside

[jagged holly]

I mean here's the lingering clues that could lead to more info:

• chicken in the chest
• torch broken at 2:10 and its connections to the channel post about the candle
• asymmetrical glowstone in the final room which is emphasized by camera focusing on them
• username?
• discrepancy between statements at 26:30 and 28:38

(timestamps are based on retro's video)

[empty laurel]

545/256/23 and 335/274/44 are within world height if I'm not mistaken

[blissful lake]

Maybe not 545

I don't know about the new update though

[empty laurel]

X coordinate...

[jagged holly]

those are within the height

[blissful lake]

Lol

Brain fart

[empty laurel]

Fair

Also 256 is the height limit in the end and the nether I'm pretty sure as they have lower heigh limit

[jagged holly]

i mean i love a good mystery but it could also just be that when setting up the video they got a stack of chicken in creative mode and then spread it out in the chest randomly

[blissful lake]

Holy they are not banned

How

[jagged holly]

oh maybe the messages were just deleted

[empty laurel]

Probably someone got hacked

[blissful lake]

It is still in the self promo channel

[sharp chasm]

that too lol

[timber gorge]

maybe the 23 and 44 are y cords?

[sharp chasm]

why the hell would those be coords

that doesnt even make sense in the context of literally anything

[blissful lake]

You don't need to see

[empty laurel]

I mean maybe

[sharp chasm]

no thjey just

are not

can we just throw out completely outlandish far fetched theories like that

because there is no way the person who made this arg did something like that

[blissful lake]

I mean we are just brainstorming don't be toxic

[sharp chasm]

i mean i guess but the theories atp are coming from basically nowhere

[blissful lake]

Eh

Just seeing what sticks

[sharp chasm]

ig

[empty laurel]

I was mostly thinking about cords because someone mentioned a Minecraft server on minehut...

[brittle violet]

There's still so much unexplained stuff tho. Like why is there a random end portal in the background of one of the videos? And the strange messages in the description of the last video

[empty laurel]

Yea

[brittle violet]

To me at least it seems like there's more under the surface

Either that or the creator is just trolling lol

[jagged holly]

i think the end portal we have an idea of

[brittle violet]

What do we think is going on with it

[blissful lake]

Me and my peak "conversation" with wordle I use it as a notes taking thing on discord.

[blissful lake]

The dr*gs thing I saw from this chat

I don't know basically anything about what was discussed in this thread tho

[blissful lake]

Ede cce bef bgd bc dd

[jagged holly]

music?

[blissful lake]

That is if you do nothing and just turn the numbers into letters

[blissful lake]

However, what if you shift it 7 spaces?

Dyno'd 💀

NUTIN

[jagged holly]

uh

[timber gorge]

you mean nothing?

[blissful lake]

Anyway tho these things are observations on the first 20:00 of the vid

[blissful lake]

If I capitalize nothing I get Dyno'd

😭

[jagged holly]

just dont capitalize

[blissful lake]

I don't know how else to put emphasis well

😢

[timber gorge]

nothing

or nothing

[blissful lake]

Oh

#1485014716073115880 message is anyone going to look at the observations or have these all been discussed already because I have no idea

[sharp chasm]

thats probably a reference to the void lets be honest

like

remember that void the narrator peers into during the series?

thats what its a reference to

that void is a reference to the depressive spiral

[blissful lake]

I guess not 😔

[blissful lake]

I don't think that's what she was talking about

I think there was an actual end portal

Not just the dark void he stares into

[sharp chasm]

yes

i know

its literally probably representative of the dark void he thinks about

i mean come on the entire series is a metaphor for grief turning into suicide

[blissful lake]

Oh

[blissful lake]

I thought it was grief that they couldn't get over and eventually they turned to dr*gs and turned away all help that came, I didn't realize it was swiss-eye

[sharp chasm]

it is

what do you think logging off was

it was 3 years of grief that eventually made itself known in what was probably a very explosive way

and when it did show up they couldnt take it anymore

like at the end of grief

[blissful lake]

Anyway I gtg #general message

[blissful lake]

They jumped in? Crazy.

[jagged holly]

they literally changed their sign to “retired” to match logan’s

[lost agate]

I finally found a solid lead on this case. A year back, Freshi had also uploaded a video regarding Fr0zen's case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAcfCTbzr5g

After compiling the clues especially those hidden within the username, I found out the following:

Fr0zen's discord server: mk8XYaekVE
An unlisted video that reads “p't zvyyf P slma fvb svnhu.” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX-fjyw_iLw

Deciphered to “I’m sorry I left you, Logan.”, this video briefly describes about a 17 year old Logan Anderson that was killed (fatally shot) in a robbery on September 1st 2021 while suspect 56 year old BRIAN LANDFALL (after deciphering the on-screen text, "I Y P H U S H U K M H S S"), fled the scene and is considered dangerous. The authorities were also made known that another teenager, (possibly Fr0zen AKA Steven), was present at the scene but ran away (probably from the fear of what he witnessed).

However, a major inconsistency appears in the comments: “he used an axe.” This contradicts the report in the video, which states that Logan was shot.
The video description also contains another embedded link, which redirects to a second video by the same uploader that appears to consist solely of audio; possibly capturing the moment of the incident featuring police sirens, gunshots, rain that may represent a reconstructed memory or a hidden recording of the event itself.

Piecing it up, the ARG appears to be telling a fragmented story of an incident where Logan Anderson is the victim, Fr0zen (Steven) being the witness that fled, and Brian Landfall — an unidentified but likely important figure. The conflicting details (gun vs axe, distorted audio, fragmented messages) suggests reflecting trauma, guilt, or altered memory.

Hence, it could be why Steven started falling into a state of depression and hallucinated, inflicted harm on himself, and even took his own life — out of guilt, remorse for fleeing the scene, for not being able to change the outcome.

[empty laurel]

Nice

[blissful lake]

Interesting

[timber gorge]

what exactly did you do to find this?

and how did you find the discord server?

[empty laurel]

Yea this is the first about a discord server...

[tawdry frost]

Something I feel was missed by RGN's analysis (and seemingly cut out of RGN's summary):

In the first episode, after Fr0zen gives Spectre the wood, he opens the chest, takes some chicken out, and puts in the following items: A seed, a couple oak saplings, and a stick.

If you take the first letter of each item he puts in, it spells: S-O-S.

Even as early as the first episode, Fr0zen knows something isn't right.

[timber gorge]

i didnt notice that

also i translated the channel of that video's name. the one you found. it translates from pdpzopjvbskiypunoptihjr to iwishicouldbringhimback

[jagged holly]

oh my goodness

@sharp chasm we solved the username

[sharp chasm]

wait what

[sharp chasm]

oh my god

what the hell

[rapid field]

Holy sh*t
So the ''he's been in my apartment '' in the description of the final vid on Frozen channel refers to the killer Brian. In his second to last video Steven also said ''Help he's watching me ''

And ig Steven ended with the same fate aswell

Also just noticed why is Steven holding an axe in his last video??

[jagged holly]

I think it’s less literal and more a looming fear that the killer will come for him next

[jagged holly]

because steven decided to do the job before the killer could

quitting the game

[rapid field]

Yeah make sense

I thought the axe Steven was holding might have something to do with what was said in the comments '' he used an axe ".

[rapid field]

The only reason I took it more literal because of pomoc's comment "I thought this guy was smart." And "this will be the last time I will ever be able to talk to you."

[jagged holly]

the first comment is how steven interpreted the therapist’s words, with pomoc being able to speak to steven’s inner consciousness so easily

the second one is because pomoc knows that steven doesn’t plan on coming back to therapy after this session

[rapid field]

This arg is surprisingly gas

[woven raft]

there might be another code in channel #5 of frozens discord as well but im not smart enough to tell

i dont know if im allowed to send the discord link in chat here but under the voice chats theres a single text channel called #5 and in the description is a string of letters

[rapid field]

Yeah yeah got it

[empty laurel]

The voice chats?

[rapid field]

DE-mqfd_pSd

[rapid field]

In the text channel named 5

[woven raft]

theres 4 voice chats in frozens server and one text meant to look like another voice chat labeled #5

[woven raft]

ok yea i wasnt sure if that was just a discord thing or if it was the same for everyone

but thats what i saw ! cx

ok so the message in chat plus the string from the description shifted 19 backwards is what got us that news video

was v confused on how we got to the news clip

[empty laurel]

I'm still confused how we found the discord server

[rapid field]

19 is highly emphasized because that's Steven's age

[woven raft]

i found it from a like year old reddit post

idk how they got it originally

[empty laurel]

Huh

[woven raft]

i think that if there is more of the arg out there we would have to somehow find something related to brian

[empty laurel]

Also what did the username part mean? Still don't really get that part

Someone said that part has been solved but I don't really understand where it lead to?

[woven raft]

the username is a discord link not a youtube video like suspected in rgn's vid

[empty laurel]

To a server or...?

[woven raft]

yes

its how people got to frozens server

[empty laurel]

It doesn't work for me

[blissful lake]

What is gas supposed to mean?

I don't think there is enough stuff to put in a video yet

Maybe not though

[woven raft]

its another way people say "really good"

[blissful lake]

Ahh

Thanks

[empty laurel]

Is the link expired or something?

[blissful lake]

Probably

[empty laurel]

Apparently his channel has changed handle or whatever it's called and the old one actually leads to a server

[blissful lake]

Ohhh

[vast moon]

what's the old one?

[empty laurel]

I'm not sure because the commentor on Reddit only mentioned it changed not what it originally was

[vast moon]

alright, go gadget wayback machine

[empty laurel]

Nvm Im stupid and can't read, it was user-mk8XYaekVE

[blissful lake]

Lol

[vast moon]

the invite still works.

[rapid field]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxdPH2fYnvpTdEXjqsMB1qlfxxtN1wHXfq?si=NDGGdK2yTBp9_LKZ

I wonder if this means something

[daring pond]

I think that's hurricane Ida

Is this even connected?

[rapid field]

I wonder why this random post was on the channel

Its around Louisiana but the incident with Logan happened in NY

[timber gorge]

lwk just think they encrypted with the default settings on Cryptii which shifts by 7 and 26-7=19 which is why when you decrypt you use 19 but if you set it to decrypt you get the encrypt key which is 7

[rapid field]

Lol

[woven raft]

wouldnt this be a pic of katrina or another hurricane like that if the stuff with logan is all in ny?

thats the only hurricane i can think of that hit like directly there

quick google search actually shows thats ida

[woven raft]

im still curious about the description of the final video. it specifically says 2 months ago did a video happen to be uploaded 2 months prior and something happen in it?

[lost agate]

I ciphered the username and eventually found a link to the server, dated back in 2023.

[lost agate]

Thank you!

[lost agate]

Yes indeed!

[lost agate]

Yes, exactly.

[rapid field]

I thought it was about something else and you were referring to the old username @user-mk8XYaekVE

[lost agate]

I was!

[rapid field]

So bDcmPktqQm is about something else

[empty laurel]

Apparently

[timber gorge]

maybe it's another discord server?

[rapid field]

A discord server with Spectre in the logo but couldn't find

[woven raft]

did anyone ever decoded spectre's youtube channel?

the one with the news real/ida photo

[blissful lake]

I don't think so

[woven raft]

i feel like that was an obvious step everyone kinda blew over xD

[blissful lake]

I mean I think they've been trying

[rapid field]

I analysed the sound video nothing on the spectro just lightning and rain probably an aftermath of the hurricane

[woven raft]

the channel name is just "iwishicouldbringhimback"

[rapid field]

I also wonder if bDcmPktqQm is really a discord link unusually with no numbers (maybe I am tripping) the channel name is 5 can it help with this...

[blissful lake]

Ohh

I think somebody did actually

But thanks for the double confirmation

[rapid field]

@timber gorge pointed that out

[rapid field]

This was a crazy find apparently the arg creators are DilSnaps and douugg_

[woven raft]

did yall find the second unlisted video on logans?

the one titled ...

[rapid field]

The sound recording?

[blissful lake]

Wait really? We just saw that in the second video when they got achievements.

[woven raft]

yea its just a black screen with rain sirens and someone walking

[rapid field]

Yeah that's what I was saying

[woven raft]

ohhhh i see i see

[rapid field]

Btw I think both DilSnaps on the discord server are the same people

[blissful lake]

Ye

[rapid field]

It's because his account got banned and he made a diff one

[blissful lake]

I was theorizing on that server that Dilsnaps2 was Fr0zen and DilSnaps was Spectre

[rapid field]

Yeah i saw

Side note, in one of the videos Steven said that Christmas was coming. The incident with Logan happened in September and Steven said he stopped being safe for 2 months.

[blissful lake]

Oh

[woven raft]

i honestly think the dilsnaps interacting was just the creator being silly

[blissful lake]

...

[rapid field]

Yeah

[woven raft]

yea i was curious about that

in the audio its sounds like one set runs away but at the end it sounds like someone approaching

[rapid field]

I thought it was gun shots not running

Probably running

[woven raft]

im wary to believe any gunshots as being true because of the comment on the channel saying "he used an axe"

[rapid field]

Yeah that's one conflicting bit too

[woven raft]

i do have one thought that it might be finished

and its just organizing what happened

[rapid field]

Yeah...

I will try contacting the Dil

[woven raft]

i thought about doing that but it also felt a lil out of the spirit of things so i was conflicted

[rapid field]

Just to confirm if the username still means something or is it over

[woven raft]

so far my idea is that frozen got specter into some not great stuff (the references to poison potatoes) lead to them attempting a robbery and when it went bad frozen ran leaving specter behind but unlike how the news states it brian used an axe and not a gun

thats my game theory rn atleast

[blissful lake]

I thought specter was trying to get frozen not to fall into drug abuse but after he died he lapsed or something like that

[woven raft]

thats totally an option. this was just my lil headcanon so far basically and how i interpretted what we have so far

[rapid field]

I mean a 56 year old man using axe against a 17 year old and then running away sounds....

[woven raft]

true not great at all but the whole story is pretty dark in tone

[rapid field]

I still wonder why Steven was holding an axe

[woven raft]

maybe frozen used the axe as a like robbery tool? like to threaten?

[rapid field]

Probably from the depressing memory of what happened to Logan. It could be as simple as that.

[woven raft]

that makes a lot of sense to me. repressing the axe memory and maybe misrembering it as a gun?

im also curious in the news video Brain Landfall sounds edited in but also when it says "dangerous" which makes me feel like someone is trying to pin it

[rapid field]

Maybe not because the incident probably occurred when Steven went to Logan's house and then the robber came.

[woven raft]

that makes alot of sense cause in one of the first videos he asks if he wants to come over again

[rapid field]

The first two videos may aswell be replica of what was happening or what they were doing, including the storm and everything either way.

[wraith cairn]

ok I need to catch up. I've been so busy working on the next video

what are the major discoveries that I missed?

[timber gorge]

someone found a discord server

[woven raft]

discord server and a youtube channel with two unlisted videos

[lost agate]

Read my solved case, that was rectified by the ARG creator to be very close: #1485014716073115880 message

[balmy belfry]

all there is that i c is a post of a hurricane storm posted by what's probably Spectre but their username is gibberish

or maybe it's not gibberish and some sorta code name, idrk

[rapid field]

The username is "iwishicouldbringhimback"

[silk kiln]

i have a feeling the pit represents self-killing. you cant undo it. and the sords are nifes for selfharming.

[silk kiln]

agreed. i have too. still am to a lesser exstent but lets not talk about that

[sharp chasm]

same somewhat

[sharp chasm]

you dont gotta sense sword and knife

[silk kiln]

yea dont need to get banned for breaking rule 2 lol

[sharp chasm]

yk that

[sharp chasm]

ig

[silk kiln]

ik im just horable at spelling

[sharp chasm]

but yes the pit definitely represents a look into suicide for sure

[sharp chasm]

oh

[silk kiln]

its fine

[sharp chasm]

... dyslexia or something?

[silk kiln]

no

just bad at it

[sharp chasm]

fair enough

[silk kiln]

and yes its my native langrage

[sharp chasm]

mhm

[silk kiln]

english i mean

[sharp chasm]

ye i figured

[silk kiln]

so umm whats the current therys

btw this #1485014716073115880 message was a responce to #1485014716073115880 message

if that wasnt clear

[sharp chasm]

it was youre good

[sharp chasm]

well we actually figured it out

[silk kiln]

sorry autisum so im bad at comunicating

[sharp chasm]

fair enough