"you have to move on." (Fr0zen)

[wraith cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75CRYJHUeI4

Here's the original channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMYDqronZ9mU0jl-txJEAfw

[strange rune]

intriguing (first)

[void jackal]

Interesting

[jagged holly]

watching the video rn

[vast moon]

the "old texture iron ores drop raw iron" part is just the result of the programmer art resource pack (it's not an anomaly.)

someone else noticed it in #general i just thought i'd mention it here

[jagged holly]

at 13:11 you mention pomoc has fly mode but we see a brief glimpse of a hitbox for a barrier block

[vast moon]

image i just took as soon as you mentioned that:

[scenic wagon]

instantly noticed the inverted sea lantern texture in the beginning

[jagged holly]

you can also tell based on the rain particles not hitting the lava

[scenic wagon]

yeah you could also see copper ore

[earnest grove]

is the claim of acceptance and healing fully correct though

[wraith cairn]

no, definitely could be wrong

just my interpretation

[wraith cairn]

ah good catch

[scenic wagon]

6:50 maybe this is a light switch sound? thats just my interpretation, and i havent watched past this point then so idk if it has any signifigance

[earnest grove]

yeah ik

[sharp chasm]

it certainly sounded like it

one thing i can say is that at the end of the series when steven does his whole monologue thing, i did come to the "opposite conclusion" that rgn was talking about

[earnest grove]

this one feels like they haven't fully healed — they tried and got far, but not enough

[sharp chasm]

ive seen this sometimes where people process grief but in the end still fail to

and it slowly consumes them

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

ive dealt with it myself evenm

[earnest grove]

also things like trauma could be related

[sharp chasm]

sounds like it

[wraith cairn]

I'm sorry to hear that

[sharp chasm]

its fine

i feel like the end of the series interperetation is influenced by real life experiences

[wraith cairn]

I do think the argument of a sudden reversal is supported by the monologue text - if you take what he says literally it sounds like he chose the dark place

[sharp chasm]

to me it sounds like he fought it until the very end

[earnest grove]

yeah

[wraith cairn]

but I do think it's weird for most of the final episode to be healing, and then a complete switch out of nowhere

[desert canyon]

new retrogamingnow video no way

[wraith cairn]

plus, we don't actually see him jump into the pit

[sharp chasm]

to me it reads as a last attempt

[desert canyon]

retrogaming is NOW

[sharp chasm]

thats true

[earnest grove]

who up gaming on they retro

[scenic wagon]

tbh when i watch these videos i always think about how the game could have been modified or the world set up in order to film certain things

[sharp chasm]

but i think the pit is supposed to represent the consumation by the depression in the middle of grief really, or be some sort of allegory for stevens mental state

i think the things that happen in the game purely happen in stevens mind, and him disconnecting represents something outside of itg]

[wraith cairn]

yeah. I intentionally did not give a specific interpretation of what the pit is since I think there are several routes that are logical

[sharp chasm]

mhm

[jagged holly]

I do want to say it’s interesting how steven is the one who gives spectre the diamonds to make a sword, saying he needs it more, when the wither roses (symbolizing depression?) are on spectre’s side of the house

[earnest grove]

an attempt might also not end up with the outcome

[jagged holly]

but then later on steven has the iron swords

[sharp chasm]

thats probably a representation of self harm

[earnest grove]

yeah

[jagged holly]

yeah I think so too

[sharp chasm]

especially because theyre all very worn

hes definitely used it as a coping mechanism

[wraith cairn]

I thought of the wither roses as the emotional pain from acceptance. He refuses to feel it, and then finally looks at the gravestone which is surrounded by the roses. This is the first time they damage him

[jagged holly]

which is interesting why he would say “you need it more than me lol” when giving the stick to make the diamond sword

[sharp chasm]

i feel like to me its the first time the reality hits him and he cant take it

[jagged holly]

what about the dandelions?

[sharp chasm]

sometimes when people have stuff like that suddenly hit them they cant take it

yk like the realization of a friend dying like in the series

[jagged holly]

after he goes to the grave, the wither roses on spectre’s side of the house are replaced with dandelions

[wraith cairn]

oh does it flip? I missed that

[jagged holly]

I think that’s partially connected to the sea lanterns

[sharp chasm]

wait i didnt even notice. thats fascinating

[sharp chasm]

how

[sharp chasm]

alright i might be wrong, but for me its that steven recognizes that his friend is in a better place (so to speak) while the numbness to his own grief finally is wearing off

[jagged holly]

the tunnel of sea lanterns is the bridge between when spectre was present and not, and the explosion represents a breaking of the sea lanterns, in other words, a denial of the fact that there’s any difference between before and after

[wraith cairn]

this is such a fun series because it's deceptively simple. the details are actually quite a bit more complex than it initially seems watching it

[sharp chasm]

my brain aint braining what do you mean

[earnest grove]

they probably have a symbolic meaning
-# (quickly looked it up, and some sources claim they might mean innocence, childhood, passage of time)

[sharp chasm]

could be a mix of the 3

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

especially relevant for this series when absolutely all of those factors are at play

[jagged holly]

so like imagine the death event as the sea lanterns, transitioning between the time logan is alive and dead, but if you deny it by blowing up the sea lanterns, that’s trying to ignore that the event ever happened

[sharp chasm]

the innocence steven tries deluding himself into (or maybe the fact that steven and his friend were innocent back then)(, the fact that his friend died in his childhood, and the fact its been 3 years since

[sharp chasm]

oooh interesting

[earnest grove]

on an unrelated note, this one doesn't seem to remember seeing a dandelion for a while

[sharp chasm]

?

[earnest grove]

idk why

[sharp chasm]

wdym by this

[earnest grove]

uhhhh good question

[sharp chasm]

uhhhh

??

[jagged holly]

the event was probably due to steven not wanting to go to logan’s house because of the rain, and that inaction cause logan’s death

[earnest grove]

idk, sorry
-# (was meant to be interpreted literally)

[timber ginkgo]

one thing ill say about this story is that the creator did a really good job with giving a good watsonian excuse for the story happening in minecraft (the doylist excuse being that its easier to make ts in minecraft compared to irl)

[sharp chasm]

that seems too far off from the story to me

[wraith cairn]

yeah, that's a good point. I didn't really explore the initial two conversations much

[sharp chasm]

oh my god did i miss a convo

wait

yea i did

maybe the first episode is a representation of what the narrator lost and wants back

[jagged holly]

that’s why steven is a “chicken”, he didn’t take it seriously when logan asked him to visit and now regrets it, constantly stuck in that moment symbolized by the rain

[sharp chasm]

i read the rain as his mental state

mostly because during the part with his little adventure its completely gone

[jagged holly]

he also says how he “hates the rain”

OH

[sharp chasm]

do you see it

[wraith cairn]

yeah, that's a good idea I think

[jagged holly]

ok so what if the rain represents depression, if Logan was depressed and Steven didn’t want to visit and comfort him because of “the rain”, he would probably blame himself and start experiencing “the rain” himself

[earnest grove]

as in, not taking the (unknowingly) last chance to meet him?

[sharp chasm]

literally what i thought while watching

[sharp chasm]

ooh thats a good idea

[jagged holly]

and possibly the ability to stop logan’s death

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

ig yea

but yeah grief would totally do that

hell ive had experiences that cause me to think about things like that

like what if scenarios

hell it makes me wonder if the first episode almost serves as a what if scenario

[earnest grove]

yeah 🫂

[sharp chasm]

its kinda interesting how i was immediately able to pick up on stuff like that from the series ig

like once it got far enough everything clicked

[earnest grove]

(iirc this one's dad ended up experiencing that)

[sharp chasm]

during the adventure bit when steven was throwing away stuff

i interpereted it like he was both throwing away negative and positive coping mechanisms

[jagged holly]

a few more things to note:

• is the chicken in the chest at the beginning some sort of code?
• is it of any significance that the glowstone in the final room is asymmetrical?
• does the breaking and throwing away of pomoc’s sign actually represent accepting the message on it?
• what is the meaning of “it happened again” in the second video? does it connect to one of the players accidentally hitting the other?
• kings and castles metaphors
• who does pomoc represent?
• any significance to the random characters at the end of the chat message in the void place?

[sharp chasm]

1. probably. infact we should probably look into that

2. unsure

[earnest grove]

for no. 3, it may be a form of acknowledgement

[sharp chasm]

3. no, to me it represents accepting it but not truly internalizing the acceptance

[sharp chasm]

this

[sharp chasm]

pomoc to me almost represents the rational part of stevens mind

the entire story takes place in the emotional part after all

[earnest grove]

for 6, it may be a help from his mind, or someone external (like a psychologist)

[sharp chasm]

given thats what grief kinda is

[earnest grove]

more or less

[sharp chasm]

this could work too

[wraith cairn]

I could not find a meaningful code in the chest chicken, although it obviously seems like it should be

[jagged holly]

I mean that’s what rgn said in the video and i’m inclined to agree because of the nodding before that

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

to me it certainly read like one

[timber gorge]

RGN said that it wasn't a YouTube link directly. Did they try an Imgur link? I would try case swapping and doing Caesar for all of them tbh.

[jagged holly]

the server message is red, maybe the person is choosing to stop enabling steven to live in the illusion

[earnest grove]

feel like the color is irrelevant here

[wraith cairn]

I read pomoc as someone who is a friend who is trying to help them

[sharp chasm]

i do as well, atleast for arguing that it was from pomoc

[earnest grove]

many server messages are colored red (see essentialsx plugin messages for example)

[timber gorge]

I'd try Imgur for the weird string in the @ of the channel

[sharp chasm]

i do think it atleast served to move the plot along

[jagged holly]

yeah I mean I didn’t think anything of it at first either

[timber gorge]

and probably try case swapping

and caesar

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

so in a way it was help

just not from a character

[earnest grove]

it might've been an event not caused by anything happening

[earnest grove]

yeah

[jagged holly]

also the clicks and bone sounds might be important?

[earnest grove]

like a sign

[earnest grove]

the bone to tame that dog?

[sharp chasm]

flick off the light to stevens life

[jagged holly]

there’s like a rattling sound at one part

[earnest grove]

ah

[timber gorge]

I'm honestly still thinking about the string in the channel ID

[jagged holly]

when he gives the stick to make the diamond sword

[sharp chasm]

maybe that represents the only help that steven couldve had that worked..

[sharp chasm]

what about it

oh thats when it happens right?

[earnest grove]

maybe

[wraith cairn]

this one is so strange to me because there is obviously something there. But the rest of the series only uses basic codes, and I couldn't get any of them to work. Ofc it's possible it is not a video id but something else

[sharp chasm]

idk im grasping at straws here

[sharp chasm]

maybe it is

but also maybe the "look at the username" was a reference to the channel name

not the id]

[jagged holly]

at 12:17

[timber gorge]

I think I will try all the case swapped and/or Caesar cipher versions for both Imgur and YouTube and see if I get anything when I have the chance

[sharp chasm]

i doubt the creator of the arg did something like that

given how simple the other codes were

[earnest grove]

for reference: user-bDcmPktqQm

[sharp chasm]

thank you

[wraith cairn]

the thing is though we already see "fr0zen" in the videos since it's the username

that to me suggests we want something else

[timber gorge]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

possibly

[wraith cairn]

they do it once in the morse code

no comments picked up on it

so they did it a second time

[sharp chasm]

i see

[wraith cairn]

that's a pretty strong indicator there is something there, I think

[sharp chasm]

mhm

[timber gorge]

yeah cause why else would you point to it repeatedly? unless it's a red herring, but that seems odd to point to one twice

[sharp chasm]

i think its fascinating with the whole bit in the description in the last video talking about something being in his apartment for two months

[wraith cairn]

yeah. I don't think you would mention a red herring twice

[sharp chasm]

definitely not]

[wraith cairn]

I do not understand this at all

to me it feels out of place

[sharp chasm]

same

[jagged holly]

I thought that’s the guilt

[sharp chasm]

to be fair

thats the only thing i can really see it as

either that or maybe steven is hallucinating or something

[jagged holly]

if I had to throw smth out there, it could be logan’s body

[sharp chasm]

but he died 3 years ago

not 2 months

[jagged holly]

true

also there’s a discrepancy between 26:30 and 28:38

[sharp chasm]

i genuinely think its steven hallucinating like he often does in the series

i mean literally he hallucinated his friend twice

sorry once

but still

[sharp chasm]

where

[timber gorge]

it cannot be an Imgur link it's too long

I think

[sharp chasm]

what may it be

[jagged holly]

they say they built a castle and an entire kingdom, but later say that they never actually built it since it would be incomplete without 2 kings

[sharp chasm]

imgur links are 7

[earnest grove]

how long are google drive codes

[sharp chasm]

maybe thats just before and after the acceptance part

[sharp chasm]

let me see

[jagged holly]

both are in a state of lucidity and rationality though

[earnest grove]

apparently too long to fit

[sharp chasm]

nothing about the series really is

[jagged holly]

no I mean

compared to the rest

[sharp chasm]

true i supposed

[timber gorge]

it can't be a YouTube link either, too short

[earnest grove]

one could feel awake in a dream world

[sharp chasm]

thats true

for sure

[jagged holly]

wait at 1:55 steven is dismissive of logan’s concerns could that be important?

[sharp chasm]

possibly

[timber gorge]

https://m.youtube.com/post/UgkxZKgRWnZMSSHNYtZhNI_uG-tXdmeciyEm found this post by them

[sharp chasm]

im unsure what thats even meant to mean

[timber gorge]

it could be significant. didn't see it in the RGN video

[earnest grove]

candles can't shine forever

[sharp chasm]

mhm

[earnest grove]

they can illuminate the otherwise dark space, until it gets bright again

[sharp chasm]

that is unless it never does

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

ideally youd find the light switch but some people never do

[earnest grove]

what if the candle burns out before it stops being needed

[jagged holly]

I think that the first 2 videos are memories and are from before spectre dies

[sharp chasm]

has to be

the "it almost happened again" one to me almost seems like he almost failed to save his friend again with the whole lava thing

yk

[earnest grove]

true

[sharp chasm]

i wonder if his friend was in the same space steven is in in the series

like mentally

[jagged holly]

spectre’s like “bro why didn’t you come to my house” and steven is just like “I hate the rain” (steven is uncomfortable to see logan’s depressive state)

then the lava incident, but then steven hits spectre on accident

[sharp chasm]

yes exactly

[earnest grove]

this one remembers keeping a friend from dying once

[sharp chasm]

i do

as well

this may be tmi but i once had to do it while they were having some sorta psychotic break 2 years ago

it worked but still

sorry too personal

[earnest grove]

in this one's case, it was a success, but it also remembers feeling guilty about it for some issue

[earnest grove]

fair 🫂

[sharp chasm]

ive had things like that actually happen multiple times

[earnest grove]

ouch

[earnest grove]

it was also the only case so fair, when it could actually physically do something

[sharp chasm]

but yeah it... isnt fun seeing someone in a state like that

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

being uncomfortable is kinda par for the course

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

some people are dismissive and some arent

steven just happened to be the dismissive type

[jagged holly]

I find it really sad how after steven saves spectre from the lava, he then hits spectre on accident, then later gives spectre the diamonds to make a sword which “he needs more” (the sword symbolism in a later video makes this so much worse)

[earnest grove]

in other cases, one can only watch and write through a glass pane

[sharp chasm]

and its a diamond sword too

that probably means something

yk you find diamond further along in the game than iron

[jagged holly]

one that won’t break as easily as an iron sword?

[sharp chasm]

no im alluding to something else

[jagged holly]

since the iron swords are low durability

[sharp chasm]

yes thats true

[earnest grove]

the sword could be used defensively

not just offensively

[sharp chasm]

true

[jagged holly]

I mean

true

[earnest grove]

a sword is double edged however

[sharp chasm]

it can help but it absolutely can hurt

for sure

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

and depending on who you give the sword to

it only trends one way or the other

[earnest grove]

a knife can both cut through food and flesh

[sharp chasm]

ye

[jagged holly]

the low durability iron swords I first interpreted as ||self harm|| weapons but they could represent steven’s constant and weary fight against depression as well

[earnest grove]

this one also interprets the sword as cutting self

[sharp chasm]

every time he thinks he gets out he gets sucked back in

[sharp chasm]

i do

[sharp chasm]

oh ive also been dealing with this for 6 years

it takes a toll

a massive one at that

thats also why i interperet the end of the series in such a negative light

[earnest grove]

understandable

[sharp chasm]

you can see steven as accepting it and finally moving on

but to me he accepts it and cant mentally take it

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

and he tries pretending he can

[earnest grove]

an acceptable doesn't mean healing

[sharp chasm]

until the very end

[sharp chasm]

absolutely

you cant heal by just accepting something

i mean ok i take that back

occasionally it works

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

but a lot of the time accepting something doesnt mean you heal

it means you acknowledge it

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

and internalize it somewhat

[earnest grove]

an acknowledgement is the first step

[sharp chasm]

absolutely

but when it comes to the internalizing stage some people either take it really negatively or take it as a way to finally move on

[timber gorge]

I can't find what to do with the string

[sharp chasm]

some people both

[sharp chasm]

its on the channel

[sharp chasm]

https://youtu.be/XwqlJh9rbIs?si=HKoCCQtt9Aiip19w

[wraith cairn]

I agree with this, but I felt it was best not to mention specifically in the video

people can figure it out for themselves

[earnest grove]

makes sense

[sharp chasm]

i do wonder if its almost like saying one of his final tethers to reality left him

like the only thing keeping him from slipping deeper into the depression he was in

[timber gorge]

wrong string

[earnest grove]

this one kind of associates that with puppets

[sharp chasm]

there isnt a literal string

only a metaphorical one

[wraith cairn]

yeah I don't quite know about the string thing. I did consider the puppet idea too

[timber gorge]

"bDcmPktqQm" this one is the string I was talking about

like text string

[sharp chasm]

oh

but why would it refer to one character as a string

[earnest grove]

a puppet can stay up until the last string breaks

[sharp chasm]

your perception of your mental state can too

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

and once it finally breaks you have nothing to hold onto

[wraith cairn]

another thing to consider: does the zero in Fr0zen mean something, especially with respect to decoding the username?

[sharp chasm]

thats actually interesting... maybe?

let me try something

didnt work

[vivid dock]

intrwesting

[sharp chasm]

also i have an idea for the prismarine specifically

[vivid dock]

this is just a gamer's type of write when they hit a occured username

[sharp chasm]

so from what ive been able to gather some people can suddenly have almost a sudden crash into a horrible mental state or even some kinda psychotic break out of absolutely nowhere

and whats interesting is if i recall steven starts to get worse after this part too

its almost like blacking out then waking up wondering what the hell happened

[timber gorge]

maybe frozen touching the wither roses without taking damage is him being used to the pain of spectre being gone? and that's why they grow more as the number represents how much they miss spectre? and once they do take damage they have accepted spectre is gone?

[sharp chasm]

no, i think its the numbness to his grief

and also probably denial of what hes feeling

denial of the pain hes been in for 3 years

[earnest grove]

yeah

[timber gorge]

that's closer to what I thought in my mind tbh

like being numb to it and then not anymore

[sharp chasm]

i think the reason the wither roses keep growing over time is to show hes in more and more pain until it finally hits him like a brick in the face

at the same time hes able to see the gravestone

[earnest grove]

is he acknowledging it

[sharp chasm]

he is but the backlog of pain isnt being acknowledged

[jagged holly]

correct me if i’m wrong but here’s a rough interpreted timeline:

• steven and logan play mc in high school
• logan develops depression and it makes steven uncomfortable (symbolized by the rain)
• logan asks for steven to come over but steven doesn’t
• logan almost dies but survives, he’s still somewhat irritated that steven wasn’t there for him
• “it happened again” is logan’s second brush against death, but steven is there to help this time
• steven hurts logan in some way (maybe an offhand comment about depression) when he hits him with a pickaxe in the video
• they find diamonds and steven gives logan the means to make a diamond sword (does a lot of damage)
• logan warns steven not to fall into the same depression he’s in
• steven and logan separate from each other and steven ends up falling into the sea lantern hole (symbolizing a dramatic shift in his life, the death of a friend)
• when steven tries to call out for logan with no reply, he starts to worry, and then finds pomoc (basically saying to reject the illusion that logan is still alive)
• when steven goes to the village, the exploded sea lanterns represent him denying that shift, denying logan’s death
• steven tries to throw away the bad coping mechanisms but ends up in denial still
• the part where steven asks logan if he has a bone and is disappointed when told no could be important to recognize how logan is dead (has no bones, but of a stretch but thought it was important given wither skull callout later)
• steven tries to accept it, the grave is surrounded by flowers, but his wither roses still remain
• he’s still hurting, thinking he deserves to go to hell for his inaction that lead to logan’s death

[sharp chasm]

or wasnt

rather

[timber gorge]

but maybe he avoids it on purpose?

[earnest grove]

fair

[sharp chasm]

probably

he doesnt want to confront the truth

he knows if he does then all hell will break loose

infact im pretty sure the ending is just that

hes forced to confront it

cant take it

and ends it

[timber gorge]

that could be it

[sharp chasm]

remember the entire world is just a representation of stevens mental state

[timber gorge]

yeah... so him ending the world could mean that

[sharp chasm]

which means everything outside of it must be outside of his mind

[sharp chasm]

yes

it can

[jagged holly]

oh

[sharp chasm]

i said this earlier but sometimes when people go through grief

[jagged holly]

what does it mean when the server shuts down

[sharp chasm]

at the end of it the acceptance doesnt trigger getting better

it triggers being consumed by everything

[jagged holly]

is that an end to the illusion or an end to steven

[sharp chasm]

steven ends it all

to me the monologue can only mean that

[earnest grove]

both it could be

[sharp chasm]

especially with the sheer amount of stalling he does

[jagged holly]

also thoughts on this?

[earnest grove]

seems fair

[sharp chasm]

not exactly

but its fairly close

the falling into the sea lantern pit to me feels like a psychotic break or something similar on stevens end

thats why he suddenly falls into the hole

[jagged holly]

so what’s the exploded sea lantern

[sharp chasm]

im not sure

but that is when he finally recognizes everything about his own denial

right?

or am i not remembering that right

[earnest grove]

probably

[jagged holly]

no I think he’s still in denial and goes into the villager house, then it clicks

[sharp chasm]

it at the very least probably represents that hes close to it though

[earnest grove]

the illusion might've shattered

[jagged holly]

true

[sharp chasm]

exploded rather

[earnest grove]

yeah

[sharp chasm]

right infront of him

i cant shake the feeling that the involuntary drop into the hole was a psychotic break though

the other bigger hole was more of a thing beckoning him to jump in

[jagged holly]

I think the first 2 videos weren’t an illusion, and logan saying “you have to move on” feels like he’s hinting to steven what he’s gonna do, especially when he tries to ignore it after sending it

the sign from pomoc I think is an alteration to the memory in hindsight, perhaps after revisiting it by talking to a therapist or smth

[sharp chasm]

i dont think so

logan wasnt truly here for the entirety of the series

remember the gravestone was already there in episode 1

[jagged holly]

oh true

[sharp chasm]

logan was already dead by the beginning of the series

[jagged holly]

yeah but i think the events of steven not going to logan’s house are important

[sharp chasm]

i do too

atleast brushing it off

so maybe its just reminiscing

remember the entirety of the series is inside stevens mind

[jagged holly]

also at 10:22 it definitely feels like logan’s last advice to steven

[sharp chasm]

nothing exists outside it

lemme rewatch that bi

[sharp chasm]

in a way i can see that

but again this entire thing exists within stevens mind

this is also before steven has the psychotic break sorta deal

before he falls into the sea lantern hole

[jagged holly]

yeah I think it’s a combination of memories

[sharp chasm]

i guess

[jagged holly]

I mean if a friend told you “you need to move on” irl, then when prompted to clarify says they didn’t say anything, then they die a few days later, wouldn’t that phrase echo through your mind and taint the memories?

[sharp chasm]

probably

but thats assuming this takes place before logan dies

i already said logan was dead before the series started

i think hes being used as a proxy to tell steven to move on from his death

oh my god theres another thing

the colors start replacing the wood the house is made from in the same episode steven falls down that sea lantern hole

its also when the flowers become more prominent

[jagged holly]

it’s interesting how once he goes through the sea lantern hole, he respawns in his bed, a sort of safety net preventing him from going into full psychosis

but logan’s bed was broken…

[sharp chasm]

exactly

logan already went into psychosis

[silver token]

where would ideas for decrypting the @ user tag go? I wouldn't think in this channel but I am new here so I do not know lol

[sharp chasm]

im not sure]\

lol

maybe here

:P

weve so far just been talking about stevens mental state in the story

what parts go where

[silver token]

hmm fair

[sharp chasm]

:P

i mean

thats def more important than 1 link

and really i wonder if weve tricked ourselves into thinking the user thing is a link at all

[silver token]

indeed it could be nothing or removed. IDK

[sharp chasm]

im pretty sure the default channel user handle is literally user-(stuff)

[silver token]

Or it could be not

[sharp chasm]

ive seen it a lot

its probably a dead end

i think the channel username bit refers to the channels actual name

fr0zen

and i think its alluding to stevens unwillingness to move on or something similar

and in a way steven and logans names connect anyway

fr0zen and spectre

could mean frozen ghost

as in

frozen in time

[jagged holly]

ok wait so if the first 3 episodes represent steven revisiting his memories through therapy (therapist is pomoc) then what if the clicking noises are when it “clicks” for steven as he sees how his actions in hindsight led to logan’s death? the accidental hit with the pickaxe, the providing of resources to make a sword, they all are moments that seem so much more meaningful in hindsight when talking about the memories. after that, steven doesn’t like how the therapist “broke his illusion” of logan still being alive, so that’s why the therapist says that this might be the last time they meet, if steven doesn’t want to confront these emotions, all the therapist can do is watch from afar

all the episodes after that are him falling further into psychosis after he rejects the help of pomoc.

The reason the grave is being built up in the first 3 episodes is because the memories visited in them are the events that built up to logan’s death

[sharp chasm]

the grave was already fully there in episode one

i interperet pomoc more as being the 1 rational part of stevens mind that he has left

which is why he shows up when spectre disappears

though i could kinda see your theory

oh wait

yea the "why did he have to break it" part

that tracks\

[silver token]

keep in mind that the entire series was posted 3 years later. So regardless everything recorded happens after, so the grave being there could be foreshadowing as much as anything

[sharp chasm]

?

no it specifically mentions logan as wouldve having been 20

[silver token]

Or maybe not foreshadowing but idk

[sharp chasm]

i dont think its foreshadowing at all

though the entire series takes place in 2024

[silver token]

Yeah I know. The last episode (and presumably everything before) takes place after the death\

[sharp chasm]

everything has to take place before the death

and again everything occurs in stevens mind except him logging off the server

[silver token]

yeah fair

It's entirely possible I speak only nonsense lol

[sharp chasm]

i mean idk somehow ive not

im surprised i havent been speaking total nonsense 😭

though idk personal experience with things like this probably helps my analysis

i already said before everything that steven probably did "log off minecraft" as it were because ive seen and personally witnessed people process grief and then do it

because they accept what happened but cant mentally take any of it

like once they realize and accept things

multiple years of backlogged emotions can take over and overwhelm to the point of no return

ive personally witnessed it and have nearly experienced it myself multiple times

[silver token]

any clue why precisely there were messages in specific non-english languages? I mean the title in french and the fact that 'help' was not in english either

[sharp chasm]

no

well id imagine its probably to make it less obvious

hell im pretty sure that in some ways its the same things steven wouldnt immediately get

like the "help" hes supposed to be getting is obscured by his mental state

for example

[silver token]

that makes sense

[sharp chasm]

though im probably reading into it too much

[silver token]

then again it's hardly the first arg to have a title in another language lol

[sharp chasm]

oh yea

[silver token]

so IDK

[sharp chasm]

like i said

im probably reading too into it

hey i just realizxed

the bit at 22:49

in the video

i think thats supposed to be alluding to the fact his mental state is frozen

so rgn was right

[jagged holly]

it’s also interesting how the castle becomes consumed by concrete, which is much more permanent than wood (which rots over time)

[sharp chasm]

i interpereted that as steven being consumed by the depression and emotions after his psychotic break

like clearly something happened in stevens mind here and by the end he has nothing to hold onto

[jagged holly]

no bed to respawn at

well

I think he still has a bed

[sharp chasm]

exactly

[jagged holly]

but logan didn’t

[silver token]

It's interesting, come to think of it, that spectre is white and fr0zen is black. Although tbf that's probably already been mentioned lol

[sharp chasm]

his bed is gone in the two kings video

look

[jagged holly]

OH

[sharp chasm]

his safety net is gone

[jagged holly]

DAMN

[sharp chasm]

so yes i think i was right-

[jagged holly]

he respawned at the bed after the sea lantern tunnel

[sharp chasm]

because he had the safety net

but that break was enough for it to be removed after he kept slipping further into what basically is a representation of mental hell

[jagged holly]

yeah

like this

[sharp chasm]

exactly

[jagged holly]

the nether

wait

the nether was logan’s favorite dimension

[sharp chasm]

its also hell

then the bedrock too

steven is mentally trapped

the going into the nether part sealed his fate there

[jagged holly]

yep

[sharp chasm]

like he dropped far enough into the depression for it to be completely impossible to get out of

[silver token]

Yeah I figured that when he said he belonged in the nether he meant he belonged in hell. Maybe because of his role in everything

[jagged holly]

like logan warned against

[sharp chasm]

thats if he even does\

i think guilt is involved

[jagged holly]

yeah

[silver token]

Or his percieved role in everything

[sharp chasm]

yes exactly

having a percieval of a role matters more than actually having one

i know this because ive personally experienced it

that stuff can absolutely mentally screw you over

[jagged holly]

yeah

[silver token]

did anybody notice that there were still several wood planks that never changed to concrete?

[sharp chasm]

that probably doesnt really matter here

[silver token]

maybe. Or maybe not. IDK

[sharp chasm]

him going into the nether nullified that mattering

[jagged holly]

now my question is was it steven’s actions (hitting with the pickaxe, giving a stick to make a sword) or his inactions (not comforting logan by visiting him) that led to logan’s death?

[sharp chasm]

definitely inaction

even in the beginning hes brushing off concerns and thinks itll be fine

[silver token]

why not both?

[sharp chasm]

i guess it could be though i doubt any actions were intentional

[wintry dragon]

Hey I just joined, has an explanation be found for the username ?

[sharp chasm]

i think its referring to the channel name, not the handle

[jagged holly]

none were intentional

[wintry dragon]

oh ok

[sharp chasm]

yea

[jagged holly]

the pickaxe hit is an accident, and the providing of the sword materials was meant in good faith (logan might not have used the sword that way though)

[sharp chasm]

exactly

[silver token]

I might be looking too deeply but maybe the old textures were him refusing to move on. He was staying in the past even when everything else wasn't

If that makes sense

[sharp chasm]

oh trueee

it does

[jagged holly]

1.14 was before 2021

[sharp chasm]

interesting

2019?

[silver token]

he was stuck in the past which is why he had the old textures. But the new (mined) ore textures are still there anyways, since even a surface denial doesn't change the underlying facts

[sharp chasm]

ye

i like that

[silver token]

The coal also had the old texture

[jagged holly]

sand too

[sharp chasm]

what

[silver token]

I didn't notice the sand lol but I believe it

[sharp chasm]

oh my god its been so long i completely forgot they ever changed those

[silver token]

I find it interesting that the wither roses didn't affect him. I can think of several reasons for that though so it is hard to say

[sharp chasm]

for me it was that the reality of his friend being gone and his numbness to the grief

[jagged holly]

I think it’s interesting how “I hate the rain” is steven’s reason for not visiting logan’s house in video 2

then later in the final video when he faces the gravestone he says “I hate the rain, but it’s not the rain’s fault for being there”

[sharp chasm]

like the wither roses and such are a representation of the backlog of emotions welling up inside him

once he is forced to accept logans death it explodes on him

he feels 3 years of backlog all at once

and cant mentally take it

[jagged holly]

too much for him

[sharp chasm]

ye\

ive had stuff like that happen before

oh come on

[jagged holly]

lol

[sharp chasm]

anyways like

its like you think youve moved on with something

but it bites you back years later

in the most spectacular fashion imaginable

[silver token]

wait did the chapters get removed from the video?

[sharp chasm]

no?

[jagged holly]

idk

[silver token]

I don't see them any more

but I did earlier

[sharp chasm]

youtubes wierd like that sometimes

nothing to be done about it

[silver token]

was anything ever said about who 'he' is with the acrostic?

when he says 'help me he is watching'

[jagged holly]

the therapist pomoc

[sharp chasm]

ye

[silver token]

hm

interesting

[wraith cairn]

I didn't remove them

[silver token]

what about the end portal in the background in the same scene?

[sharp chasm]

the end is the void

it makes sense that itd be there as an option if he noticed

[silver token]

fair

[sharp chasm]

youtube is wierd like that lol

[jagged holly]

I think we have a pretty good understanding of the whole story so far, although there is a few loose threads:

• chicken in the chest in video 2
• torch broken at 2:10 and its connections to the channel post about the candle
• asymmetrical glowstone in the final room which is emphasized by camera focusing on them
• end portal
• username
• discrepancy between statements at 26:30 and 28:38

[sharp chasm]

i can answer the last 3

the end portal is the void

as in the place you go after you die

the username i feel like is a reference to the channels name, not the handle

[silver token]

also anyone know why he spontaneously starts murdering a villager at some point? Is it just anger?

[sharp chasm]

probably

[jagged holly]

yes

might be a commentary about how the villager has a bed but logan didn’t

[sharp chasm]

omg yea

jealousy of people who arent mentally unstable

[silver token]

It's interesting to note that (althought this may have been said already) the villager has a green hood. AFAIk that means that there is a programmer's art resource pack, which is how the game has old textures in the first place

[sharp chasm]

ive felt that myself

[silver token]

But that might be a peek behind the scenes rather then anything to do with the video lol

[sharp chasm]

yea i think the villager thing isnt worth looking into and it means nothing

lmao

green hooded villagers are the ones who dont have a profession

and cant get one

nitwits, theyre called

[jagged holly]

yeah

[silver token]

No those have green robes, not a green hood

[sharp chasm]

can you like send a screenshot

[silver token]

hm I can upload a file lol

and if you give me a moment I can screenshot the video

[sharp chasm]

alr

[jagged holly]

oh you’re a skeleton now

how did that happen lol

[sharp chasm]

uhhh talking a lot

:3

[silver token]

that's the video

[sharp chasm]

oh interesting

[silver token]

at 26:13

[sharp chasm]

maybe its supposed to be kinda like a helmet?

[silver token]

As I said afaik that means that the programmer's art resource pack is enabled. It restores old textures, which is how you get the old ore textures and the old sand textures

[sharp chasm]

yes it is

[silver token]

Like I said I suspect that that is a peek into how the video was made, not important to the video itself

although it does mean he was murdering a useful villager and not a nitwit

[jagged holly]

wait he breaks their bed

that’s kinda cruel

symbolically

[sharp chasm]

bro wants people to suffer

for sure

hes taking out his pain on others

not a surprise cus that does happen

[silver token]

yeah he breaks their bed and then he starts slowly murdering them with an axe

[sharp chasm]

ive done it myself

especially when reaching a breaking point

[jagged holly]

hopefully you’re in a better place now <3

[sharp chasm]

ive been getting there

im not great but im much better than 2 years ago cus i know how to get better

(the answer is estrogen, yes i am trans wowie what a shocker)

(ive already been on it twice and it completely fixed all of my issues for the time i was on it, like literally how)

anyways

back to the arg discussion

[silver token]

what is the redstone on the ground at 27:42 when he is looking at the grave?

is that blood?

and if so why?

[sharp chasm]

?

can you send a screenshiot

[silver token]

sure give me a moment

[sharp chasm]

oh yea

that very well could be blood

[silver token]

Yeah I have a hard time imagining it being anything BUT blood but why? Why then is that there?

And why only the one, in that case?

[sharp chasm]

no idea

[jagged holly]

lily of the valley is poisonous

[sharp chasm]

it is?

[jagged holly]

it makes poisonous suspicious stew

[silver token]

Hm that is another dr*g reference

but it doesn't explain the blood

[sharp chasm]

so are the poisonous potatoes

[silver token]

well yeah

[sharp chasm]

i mean the iron swords at the one bit at the top of the shattered savannah show self harm

so

[silver token]

Maybe the blood symbolizes violence?

oh you said basically that llol

lots of references to violence and dr*gs in this video

[sharp chasm]

yea its almost like the main character has a battle with grief and depression

not very surprising to me anyways

[silver token]

fair fair

[sharp chasm]

self harm is gonna be a massive part of it

[silver token]

ALthough it could theoretically also be related to Logan's death too

[sharp chasm]

true

probably went out the way steven did

ngl i find it very interesting how so many of these videos happen to hit my recommened right as im in the mental state theyre depicting

maybe not to this level

but come on

its actually impressive atp

[silver token]

another interesting detail (that is probably unimportant) is that all of the diamond tools he lost when he fell in the sea lantern pit he did not replace. In fact the one diamond tool he has later was not diamond then

The axe

[sharp chasm]

well the axe was probably used to end it all

[silver token]

he had an iron axe whenb he fell in

[sharp chasm]

mm

you know

the diamond axe is effectively just an upgraded version of the iron one

almost in the way that stevens mental state progressed into a more "upgraded" version of depression

like

worse

[jagged holly]

no that would be too fast, he clearly has some time to regret what he’s done in that end monologue

[sharp chasm]

did i say he immediately used it]\

[sharp chasm]

his regret and guilt is what kills him

[jagged holly]

oh ok

[sharp chasm]

like

also the sheer fact of realizing your friend is actually gone

and at the same time being flooded with emotions you cant stop

on top of the regret and the guilt

[silver token]

you think steven is dead? I may be out of the loop on that one lol

[sharp chasm]

everything inside the game is inside stevens mind

thats established almost from the start

[silver token]

indeed

[sharp chasm]

when he leaves the server after genuinely considering it

that isnt inside the game

he leaves the game

[silver token]

hmm

[sharp chasm]

"logs off minecraft"

as it were

if you catch my drift

[silver token]

that's ..... dark

[sharp chasm]

thats why he stalls so much

[jagged holly]

yeah well

[silver token]

just like steven I guess

[sharp chasm]

i mean the entire series takes place in a horrible mental state

one that i have personally experienced

not all grief ends in coming out better

sometimes in cases such as stevens it ends up with being so overwhelmed by it all that you cant take it anymore

break down

completely

and end it

[silver token]

but honestly, you guys are free to disagree with me but I prefer to think that it was him leaving the horrible mental state behind, not him leaving everything behind

[jagged holly]

well I think the first 3 episodes are in a denial phase, showing a conversation with an outside help (pomoc) while revisiting the memories and examining the events, but once that help is rejected steven’s mental state becomes darker

[sharp chasm]

thats also when he falls into the lantern pit

[silver token]

TO believe that he has an epiphany and moves on

[sharp chasm]

he never moves on though

[jagged holly]

he’s put himself in a bedrock box, his bed is gone, he changes the sign to say “retired” to match logan’s, he says he deserves to be in hell

[silver token]

but you guys are free to disagree with me

[sharp chasm]

the thing is ive actually been in a mental state represented by the storyu

ive witness multiple people in a mental state like this

i have firsthand experience with it

he never moves on

he just gets worse while on the surface he stays somewhat of the same

just going through grief

until the surface slips away from under his feet as the realization actually hits him as hes forced to confront it

[jagged holly]

he accepts it but that acceptance breaks him

[sharp chasm]

yes

exactly

the emotions from the acceptance are too much for him to handle

he only "accepts" it when hes damn near forced to

when the emotions well up so much that he cant hide it from himself or ignore it

[jagged holly]

although I can see an argument that he DOES actually choose to move on and he’s leaving his former self behind to die as he moves on to a new life not in denial

[silver token]

But at the same time, he already got rid of the poison and weapons before

[jagged holly]

yeah well

[sharp chasm]

that doesnt matter

at all

[jagged holly]

he kept the axe

[sharp chasm]

that was him rejecting any actual coping mechanisms

good and bad

the chicken was probably a representation of multiple things

[jagged holly]

he held it in for christmas

[sharp chasm]

1. him being a "chicken"

or coward

and 2. any good coping mechanisms he had left

[sharp chasm]

once christmas passed he had nothing

[silver token]

I mean at the end RGN himself mentions this discussion lol how it is ambiguous whet it means

And I agree and wish to take the more optimistic viewpoint here

[sharp chasm]

except anyone who has lived in that mental state KNOWS it isnt ambiguous

[jagged holly]

it’s interesting how you could make an argument for the changing of the seasons as he goes through the desert, savanna, and then a snowy mountain, showing how cyclical this process is

[sharp chasm]

oh yeah

depression is absolutely a cyclical thing

thinking youre finally out until something hits you again

thats why he had so many iron swords in his inventory too

hes been through this MULTIPLE times

this time it actually does him in

[jagged holly]

like that chicken

there was this one instant

[sharp chasm]

what

wdym

OH

YEAH

[jagged holly]

where he looked at a chicken and the music cut out

[sharp chasm]

he stops to consider the chicken

just for one moment

decides it isnt worth it

to confront that

and keeps going

[jagged holly]

reminder of his cowardice

[sharp chasm]

ooh

yea

[jagged holly]

wait a second

him rejecting the chicken means he is ready to move on from his guilt

but it also means he’s not afraid to leave the game

[sharp chasm]

yes exactly

except

his attempt to move on from the guilt doesnt actually work

he just thinks hes done with it

thats his last "high point"

which is typically around where you forget you ever had a problem

and move on until the cycle inevitably starts again

i think the chicken in the chest was somewhat symbolic of that next cycle as it were

[jagged holly]

what about the torch/candle imagery

[sharp chasm]

no idea

maybe a thing about time running out

as in time to ignore what hes been hiding from himself

he only has 1 torch remember

[jagged holly]

logan had one too

[sharp chasm]

his time ran out

didnt it?

[jagged holly]

steven breaks his own torch in episode 1

[sharp chasm]

mhm

doesnt he put it in the chest?

stores it for later mayube

but clearly the torch symbolizes something

[silver token]

if fr0zen decided to end it all, who uploaded the videos?

And why not give any indication that it was not fr0zen?

[jagged holly]

well they’re taken from steven’s mind, is that right?

[silver token]

Hm true

[sharp chasm]

why does that matter

[timber gorge]

they could've been taken from his mind when they were on the brink of death

[jagged holly]

imagine how downright disrespectful that would be though

Get him to a hospital ❌
Analyze his brain waves and extract his memories to be uploaded onto youtube with cryptic titles and descriptions ✅

[pine moon]

i just watched the video and one thing i will say is that there are definitely themes of substance abuse as a core element of the series. probably a repetitive statement since ive seen a couple of comments mention the same thing, but the poison potatoes, the prismarine crystals, and the broken iron swords are evocative of drug-related imagery. the prismarine tunnel could be an indicator of his sudden decline back into drug addiction, the poison potatoes could represent any number of edible drugs, and the broken iron swords could be evocative of syringes steven used. the prismarine crystals could also lend itself to the idea of crystal

[jagged holly]

prismarine crystals are ?

[pine moon]

i added it

any kind of drug that could be made into crystals

idk im not a drug expert

ive also seen someone in the comments suggest that steven could've dragged logan into substance abuse and that could be the reason why he's dead and why steven blames himself

[jagged holly]

oh interesting

[pine moon]

drug use is very common in teens, which would line up accordingly with how old logan would've been when he died

so its possible that logan might've overdosed on something and steven didnt act accordingly or wasn't there to help him

[jagged holly]

I prefer the mental health interpretation but substance abuse and addiction is an interesting interpretation too!!

[pine moon]

also the black scary pit represents rock bottom, which covers the bases pretty nicely on both steven's mental health and any kind of drug-related actions

[sharp chasm]

well yes the pit represents nothingness

and i interpereted him falling into the sea lantern pit as basically experiencing a psychotic break

he doesnt really seem to be on drugs apart from the section with the poisonous potatoes

which he kicks quickly

[slender jay]

That was my initial thought

😭

[sharp chasm]

like

i dont think theres substance abuse here

atleast a lot of it

i think the drugs were only part of the adventure specifically and is why we only see them there

[timber gorge]

or combine them, maybe they got addicted to substances and then got really depressed then decided to end themselves and then gets their mind extracted in a hospital and uploaded to YouTube in the form of a Minecraft ARG

[sharp chasm]

what there is is a lot of built up emotions that give way to a sudden drop off a cliff with acceptance

theres no way the ending to this is positive

ive seen multiple people in situations like stevens

[timber gorge]

agreed

[sharp chasm]

ive been in it myself

not with drug abuyse and the like

but depression

and whatnot

ive been in the exact mental state this depicts

ive seen others in the exact mental state

what typically happens is that after this the grieving is all said and done

it typically gives way to years of emotional backlog

what someone does with it and how they take it is dependent on the person

though depending how much it is

it can and likely will make said persons mental state worse

because of the sheer overwhelm of it all

[jagged holly]

I can see an argument that he DOES actually choose to move on and he’s leaving his former self behind to die as he moves on to a new life not in denial

but that’s not often the conclusion for cases like these

[sharp chasm]

but the thing is

the world represents stevens state of mine

we know this from the start

when he logs off minecraft thats the only thing he does outside of his mind

and we all know what "logging off minecraft" is a euphemism for

ive seen things like that firsthand and nearly experienced it myself

it... isnt fun

its terrifying rather

anyone who has been in that state will know

i think the massive hole in the ground is indicative of a beckoning into a depression spiral

that psychotic break (fall into the prismarine lantern things) forces said spiral to be stevens default mental state and is why you probably see black on the house

and yk, wither roses are black and whatnot

the worse his state gets the more of it you see until it hits a breaking point

yk, when it encroaches on the house

[jagged holly]

idk if it’s important but he breaks a black block on logan’s side of the house

[sharp chasm]

that may be

[jagged holly]

in the conclusion video

[sharp chasm]

and it makes sense that its at the end of the series

its almost like hes joining logan by doing what he did

ikywim

[trail crag]

Anyone solve the username unlisted YouTube link ?

[sharp chasm]

i think everyone looking at it is wroing

it isnt a youtube link its just a default youtube handle

the username refers to the channel name

not the handle

ie the fr0zen part

not the user bla bla bla part

its supposed to be alluding to a frozen mental state, or a frozen mental decline rather

i think

[trail crag]

I understand that part

[sharp chasm]

there is no secret youtube link

or anything

[trail crag]

But it feels like something is missing

[jagged holly]

several things actually

[sharp chasm]

i think theres a lot thats missing but we have most of it

there is no missing youtube link though

[trail crag]

Yeah all of that

[sharp chasm]

the story is open ended so we can make our own interperetation after allk

[sharp chasm]

i can pretty solidly answer thedm

[trail crag]

That's what i mean

[jagged holly]

I don’t know what else they could add on if our interpretation is correct

[sharp chasm]

i think it is

[jagged holly]

since uh

if he logged off

then uh

[sharp chasm]

he did

he had to

every sign points to it

theres no way steven experienced all of that then suddenly got better

especially if the world is a representation of stevens mind

which

it is

i said this to people here earlier but i have firsthand lived through a mental state like this

and also known a lot of other people who have

[jagged holly]

yeah it’s a pretty depressing ending

[wraith cairn]

ah, I didn't consider that

[sharp chasm]

i personally think the prismarine has a different connection

i guess substance abuse is a possibility

but

idk

[jagged holly]

lots of interpretations!!

[sharp chasm]

yue

but i do think we have MOST of the story down

[trail crag]

Also what he means "he watching me" 25.30

[sharp chasm]

the real interperetations are loose ends

[sharp chasm]

possibly the therapist

which is pomoc btw

people came to the conclusion of that and after thinking on it for a bit i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case

though i suppose in another interperetation it could be logan himself

but i dont know how that would really fit

[trail crag]

Are we missing something?

[sharp chasm]

not much

the only things we are missing are loose ends

maybe the more ambiguous stuff

[pine kelp]

i noticed something while i was watching this video, in the last episode, the red text talking about reaching the servers daily limit, i recognized as the message from unpaid minehut servers

if you go to minehut.gg in minecraft and type /join [server name] it'll take you to that server

so if someone could find something on the channel linking to this server name, you may be able to get on the server itself and find something

i tried a few different things, like the channel username, but i couldn't get it to work

[timber gorge]

maybe it's an accidental thing, like the usernames

[wraith cairn]

That’s an interesting idea worth at least checking out

[wheat robin]

the post has no relation with other thing as it is more like the character has found hope and can move on as it was uploaded on march 9 2025

[wraith cairn]

I sort of forgot about the post

[proven slate]

is there any significance to the Ciphers always being on 19, where S is L and L is S, when reversed? (L for Logan, S for Spectre)

[wraith cairn]

Wdym on 19

[proven slate]

On some videos with encoded text, it's always decoded in Caesar Cipher Shift 19
Simple code, but he could've used different codes either, he sticked with the same codes like morse, A1Z26 and again
this Caesar Cipher encoding

Actually

S rather stands for him, Stephen

might be insignificant, but it's a minor detail that just fits the two characters

[fair token]

After reading through comments and sharing my own thoughts in the comments of the new fr0ze video, I realized quite a few things.

it's unlikely Logan died of a drug overdose
He died because of something Steven didn't do.
He died in his house
The cryptic text in the description might be coming from Logan. Probably his last words.

#2 (going to go out of order here, hope you don't mind)

I saw a lot of theories about how Steven actively did something to Logan, and he now deeply regrets it. And the fact that him saying he "deserves hell" comes from a rational mindset and viewpoint. I do not agree with this at all, and I do not understand how people come to this conclusion. Steven clearly calls himself a "chicken", a timid animal, someone who chickens out and runs away. The exact opposite of someone who deeply regrets doing an evil thing. If he did, wouldn't he be calling himself a "monster"? And if it was rational, why does he throw away the chicken in his inventory in his small moment of rationalization along with all the other harmful things there? It's because he realized his negative self-talk was irrational. And that he's not a bad person. He simply fr0ze up and chickened out when his friend needed him most. This is a very natural human response, after all. He does realize he's not evil, but every time he remembers Logan's last moments, he can't help but to think about what he could've done to save him. He blames himself rather than the situation that put Logan in danger. Because of how addictive negative self-talk is and his already existing depression from his lost friend, this eventually spirals into a vicious cycle of him saying he's a "chicken" and "deserves hell".

#3 I remember someone from the comments of that video talking about a scene from your video about how Spectre said "come to my house" and when Fr0ze doesn't come to his house, he says "why didn't you come to my house". (I didn't realize there was a character limit. Hold on)

I feel like this would be way easier to post if they let me use the theories discussion board but whatever

[vast moon]

#1019925609960439819 is for theories about minecraft
#1026498054083321866 is for theories about args/mysteries/whatever you want to call them

[gleaming veldt]

i think we should insert a letter/number instead of a hyphen in his username

[vast moon]

why?

[gleaming veldt]

can a hyphen be in a video link?

[vast moon]

yes allowed characters in a youtube link are: uppercase and lowercase letters, numbers, the hyphen and underscore. (essentially base64)

[gleaming veldt]

i think the hyphen illustrates the missing symbol

btw is link not found or someone found it?

[vast moon]

the answer is the former

[gleaming veldt]

sorry, dont understand you

[proven slate]

Means that it hasn't been solved

[vast moon]

the answer to your question is the first of the two options.

[vast moon]

also, this is a valid youtube link that actually leads to a video on the fr0zen channel:

which contains a hyphen (and an underscore)

[gleaming veldt]

alr if not hyphen than maybe shift uppercase letters to numbers?

[vast moon]

what?

[gleaming veldt]

like -bDcmPktqQm
D-3
P-16

[vast moon]

no? wha- no? wha- no?

[gleaming veldt]

how are we finding the link

u have any ideas?

[vast moon]

unless the hyphen isn't actually supposed to be there but then we're one character under! mentally pained screaming

[proven slate]

lol this is funny

wait lemme

[opal ether]

anyone notice how some of these must be flipped in order to make sense? maybe that means something? like the characters in the username need to be flipped in order to reach the hidden video?

[proven slate]

it's just a funny thing I found, but the text I got is just interesting

[gleaming veldt]

i tried putting a-z and 0-9

[opal ether]

is the flipping somehow helpful to that you think? papik?

[gleaming veldt]

idk but it could be

[opal ether]

btw people have been saying like this is somehow about the void but i think this represents that "the end is nigh"

doesn't yet reach it but it's close

[gleaming veldt]

the end is near?

[opal ether]

now back to the code i think it's a good idea to not assume that it is a video code as some have said it could be an imgur or a minehut code

[opal ether]

yeah

nigh near same thing

[gleaming veldt]

first time seeing this word

[opal ether]

yeah it's just a higher version of the same word

like a literature version of it

[gleaming veldt]

maybe a playlist link?

[opal ether]

could be

but they are pretty long

[proven slate]

It's so funny yet also intriguing the autodetect translator translates the username to "I am a nerd", and retranslating it makes "I am a maniac"

[opal ether]

XD

this could be the "stairway to haven" no?

Fr0zen doesn't seem to want to go up it