#"...but you trust me, do you not?" (Amiesaurus17)

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plush breach
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the only person still alive would be theo

thick orbit
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Uhhh is this AI

carmine brook
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I don't think that was the shapeshifter, the text was red, whereas when it was speaking to theo, the text was white.

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also the messages are empathetic, whereas the messages to theo seemed cold and emotionlesss.

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also it seems I was both right and wrong about the grave in the chapel, which explains how the mimmic knew it was there, and yet decided to depict rose as being buried in the graveyard, in the theo playlist.

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because I believe joseph found the mimmic after having bonded with rose.

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also it could be that the mimmic has to absorb a person before it's able to take on it's appearence.

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"you are going to die here"

jovial crypt
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Yea found that

carmine brook
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at 2:14. there is a glitch, that says "still don't know who's in that picture"
which is what he said in charlie 1, which makes me think it's his sub-concious echoing it back to him.

jovial crypt
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Adding the description to the mix of working brains

carmine brook
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also, the fathers notes states they moved to a new house after rose died.
in the flashback in theo's video, the cage was shown as being in the middle of the basement, which to me didn't make sense, if the mimmic had dug tunnels through the wall.
so that must have been at the new home.

jovial crypt
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Im still not sure what atracted the creature to the family

carmine brook
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at the end of charlie 2, the mother said amy and theo had supernatural gifts. perhaps rose did too. maybe the ability to cross into other peoples' dreams.

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also, just thinking it over, the tunnels must have been dug in secret, while joseph was there, otherwise it would have made more sense for it to have just broken out through the door.

jovial crypt
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Also, why is it important to forget corey for the kids?

midnight sierra
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We have a lot of unsolved things

  1. wYYNG could be anithing, my closest call was an imgur url, witch actualy leads to a minecraft image, what are the chances that this is just a coinsidence? I dont know but we cant be shure.
    https://imgur.com/wYYNG

  2. We have the Morse code witch ends up with .- -- -.-- .. ... -.. . .- .-. --- - - .. -. --.
    AMYISDEAROTTING

And a weird knocking and images not flashing during the morse sequence , what to do woth that we also dont know for sure.

  1. We have those weird 3 and 1 nummbers apearing again and again, like the flashing glitches in "turn your eyes at 13 seconds and 31 seconds.

Open ends

And maybe i have forgotten some stuff...

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Ignore the text above

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I just copy and pasted from a discussion

carmine brook
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it is my thought that when the text repeats in the glitch in charlie 2, it is him putting together the idea that it may be corey in the photo

midnight sierra
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Ignore me

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I thought you said Charlie 2 for the picture

carmine brook
# jovial crypt Also, why is it important to forget corey for the kids?

if the other kids remembered corey, then they would eventually have to ask what hapened to him. the father COULD have made up a story, but if they ask again, he may say something different, and the kids' would eventually catch on that the father wasn't telling them the truth. instead if they forgot, then it makes it easier.

jovial crypt
jovial crypt
crimson bolt
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@jovial crypt do u know what the world pillars are

jovial crypt
jovial crypt
white needle
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just saw charlie 2, what's next? charlie 3?

jovial crypt
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Whats the monster garden?

crimson bolt
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Read it

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It’s kinda like the book

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The great divorce

jovial crypt
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Pillars are sure to be a key part of the story but i think this is to loose to be the perfect match

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We know the creator knows at least one work of CS Lewis so i would search around that area for some sorts of pillars

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It's like simple psychology: the creator likes the author so much that he incorporates him into his story, so he may know more of his works.

midnight sierra
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I mean the great divorce is about pillars too

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I don’t think we need to go to other sources bc I think they all have a similar concept

midnight sierra
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I think the pillars just represent the things that hold heaven up and other symbolical things

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I don’t think they are anything else to it

jovial crypt
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Yea if we wander of path to far we are going to get lost in theories

midnight sierra
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I zoomed in on it and between that and the poor quality, that was it

midnight sierra
jovial crypt
carmine brook
crimson bolt
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Rgn said there was no pillars in the book

midnight sierra
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It’s metaphorical pillars

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In the book

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I think the creator took them literally

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Theoretical even

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But you’re right, could be something else

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We only know of that book 100%

jovial crypt
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If someone can find clear edvidence of what modpack he uses that would remove alot out of our focus and we could focus on what dosent fit in

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He uses Java thats what i know, i went trough mc bedrock marketplace and didnt find the assets

midnight sierra
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Could it be multiple tho?

jovial crypt
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Of course

midnight sierra
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My guess is that it is a furniture mod with the notes being something else

jovial crypt
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I want these assets ,the whiteboard and the paper on table

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I want to know if the whiteboard stuff is just random modpack bla bla or if we have to examine it deeper

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The note in frame mod is actualy irelevant becaus we get the information hidden in them always instant

burnt harbor
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Idk but can you summarize that @jovial crypt i still have no ideas (aka idk) btw

carmine brook
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at the very least knowing what minecraft version would go half way to figuring out what mods are being used

jovial crypt
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Probably the newest, i guess, or hope

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We have lanterns so version musst be after 2019

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Hanging signs were officially added to Minecraft in June 2023 as part of the 1.20 Trails & Tales update. They were first introduced in snapshots for Java Edition in October 2022 (specifically snapshot 22w42a).

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I guess its the newest

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Didnt see any copper golems so far though

burnt harbor
jovial crypt
burnt harbor
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Cuz i'm controlling this pc and i'm in the camp hosted by the school that i didn't want to go

jovial crypt
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Well, uhm... we have a new protagonist, Corey aperantly the unnamed brother we think, and it seams everyone is dead exept for maybe theo, and the father made some deal with some deamon or something to keep the kids unaware of corey and rose was possesed by it, the original mother is burried beneath the chappell... i realy suck at this😬

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And the chat is just theorizing around what why and how

jovial crypt
burnt harbor
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That's why i dont want to go there

carmine brook
honest estuary
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Maybe we'll get a section on Corey

carmine brook
# honest estuary Maybe we'll get a section on Corey

I'm half and half as to whether corey will get a section, considering they died pretty early on, and was otherwise kept secret. I would love to think there would be some sort of secret last video that basically walks through the whole story, that only people who have managed to figure it all out can access.

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on a similar note I don't think wYYNG has been solved yet. sure there is an imgur link that happened to have a minecraft skin, but considering the skin doesn't seem to correspond with any of the known characters as of yet, I think, for the time being, we're safe in assuming that that was just a coincidence

jovial crypt
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I bett corey gets a chapter, i mean the creator has set a skin and a text color for him already

honest estuary
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Or something like that

jovial crypt
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But the post is from 2012

carmine brook
jovial crypt
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This wyyng taunts me in my dreams its so anoying 😬

carmine brook
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some of the fonts of the characters are serif, I wonder if that has any significance

jovial crypt
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I also had the theory that the creator just uses this link, not made it himself but that would mean there is no hidden message inside related to the arg making it a dead end

carmine brook
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idk, I would hate to think it's just a red herring, especially considering that it seemed to be half of the point of that video.

jovial crypt
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It would just be a absurd coincident if its not related i mean what are the odds that a link ending on multiple platforms leads to something minecraft related

carmine brook
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2012 was the peak of minecraft hype

jovial crypt
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Yea but i doubt he planed his arg 14 years ago

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60 combination only one mc result and it is wyyng, ahhh Herobrine

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Drives me insane 😂

carmine brook
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I don't think we get to see theo's skin either

clever wadi
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I Might be Wrong But Since Im here I just wanted to give my thoughts on the video after I watched it today, But the Video: Tour Of a Small Town, the unlisted video, I believe that the person in that video might be Charlie, and that the video is a preview of him looking at the place the Unnamed Brother Made for Theo, I say that because it also reminds me of a part from the Book which said from the Heaven, the Ghost Town looked like a small crack and Maybe, and this is one of the comments I saw in the Video, but Maybe This is Charlie Before He decents to try to bring Theo away from the Unnamed brother into heaven and that the Humming noise isnt his father's but Charlie. I dont know thats a view I got from it, at least from the Unlisted video I could be VERY wrong.

jovial crypt
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We have a lot of unsolved things

  1. wYYNG could be anithing, my closest call was an imgur url, witch actualy leads to a minecraft image, what are the chances that this is just a coinsidence? I dont know but we cant be shure.
    https://imgur.com/wYYNG

  2. We have the Morse code witch ends up with .- -- -.-- .. ... -.. . .- .-. --- - - .. -. --.
    AMYISDEAROTTING

And a weird knocking and images not flashing during the morse sequence , what to do woth that we also dont know for sure.

  1. We have those weird 3 and 1 nummbers apearing again and again, like the flashing glitches in "turn your eyes at 13 seconds and 31 seconds.

Open ends

And maybe i have forgotten some stuff...

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Just ignore it if your not new to the chanell its a quik recap

burnt harbor
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And maybe their schedule is fri-sat-sun in utc+7 so i'm not sure yet

clever wadi
# jovial crypt Since Retros video we have like 4 new video that where released on the original ...

I watched Amy Deviation and premonition and put some notes from it, also Im guesing the Wyyng could just simply mean Wing?? also the Case Google Doc, the Person Who made it, C.Harven could be a long way from saying Cavern ?? Also the text at the end of the Deviation video about the person trying to figure out their family history, that I would presume is Charlie, and His text matchs that from Tour of a small town unlisted video , also also, could the Hotbar and the change in the Hotbar from Apart to Amypremonition mean something? maybe a code?? I wrote the potential numbers for it if ones interested but I dont think they lead anywhere, also im guessing the texts flashed at Amypremonition.mp4 the

1tJxkecvd2
Zq8SsYNjiB
xwgBNb18czwc
n5I8_0gordfk
were the links to the Docs you shared??? Probably so, tmrw Ill look into the Charlie Clips ^v^

burnt harbor
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already bruh don't be happy rn -_-

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🠞19 (🠜7) DFFUN
🠞22 (🠜4) ACCRK
🠞5 (🠜21) RTTIB
🠞20 (🠜6) CEETM
🠞10 (🠜16) MOODW
🠞6 (🠜20) QSSHA
🠞13 (🠜13) JLLAT
🠞24 (🠜2) YAAPI
🠞2 (🠜24) UWWLE
🠞9 (🠜17) NPPEX
🠞18 (🠜8) EGGVO
🠞21 (🠜5) BDDSL
🠞12 (🠜14) KMMBU
🠞14 (🠜12) IKKZS
🠞4 (🠜22) SUUJC
🠞8 (🠜18) OQQFY
🠞7 (🠜19) PRRGZ
🠞17 (🠜9) FHHWP
🠞11 (🠜15) LNNCV
🠞3 (🠜23) TVVKD
🠞15 (🠜11) HJJYR
🠞16 (🠜10) GIIXQ
🠞1 (🠜25) VXXMF
🠞25 (🠜1) XZZOH
🠞23 (🠜3) ZBBQJ

jovial crypt
burnt harbor
# jovial crypt What?

more to find (maybe i'll make a script to trying all of them, probably undetected-chromedriver and camoufox)

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not just imgur

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tinyurl

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tumblr

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etc...

plush breach
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btw, could it be that the shapeshifter be like, theo's power that he couldn't control so it like went rogue or something? or is it something too far fetched

midnight sierra
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no video 🙁

junior oyster
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why do the character's suddenly have powers now can someone remind me

plush breach
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i think they were born w them, but we dont know if the dad, mom, or dead brother have powers

carmine brook
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new vid just dropped, sadly not that much info in it.

odd hollow
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Is this Charlie and Amy?

jovial crypt
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Aw s here we go again

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If this doesent look like "turn your eyes" i eat a chair

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it was 9 o'clock that snowy evening, when the house began to morph into something unrecognizable. it grew eyes that watched me in the darkness, ears that heard my every breath, and a mouth that would surely swallow me whole if i continued. yet despite my better judgement, i continued into that old, wretched house. i continued into that horrible ...

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Description link

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Morse code or what ever that is in this videos descriotion

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Was the creator drunk morsecoding this or whats going on here 🤣

crimson bolt
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Hidden Text: If you pause during the rapid frame changes (around the 0:45 mark), there are frames with white text on a black background that briefly say "I CAN SEE YOU."

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At the very start of the video (approx. 0:00 - 0:10), there is high-pitched audio interference that contains Morse code.
• Message: S O S

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"They are watching "

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Zalgo Text: There is a line of distorted, "bleeding" text that reads: "I̷'̷m̷ ̷s̷t̷i̷l̷l̷ ̷h̷e̷r̷e̷" (I'm still here).

midnight sierra
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sometimes it holds us together
others it tears the skin from bone
remember what it did to us
remember what it did to everyone
you really are all that is left

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sorry in desc

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also "thing" was in yellow so new color

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also, can someone put together the items in the item frames in the hidden video

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i think it could be a code

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or i will

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amy is standing in the corner at 1:12

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also, the desc has a quote from House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski

odd hollow
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Is that Axiom

midnight sierra
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also the item blocks in the frame going start to end is:
LJWCANVNVKNACQNV

midnight sierra
jovial crypt
midnight sierra
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oh

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so is it an accidental flash lol

odd hollow
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It's a mod and a tool

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Like WorldEdit

midnight sierra
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hm, so the song at the end of the vid is played by the creator i think

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and i think i foudn the original

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barely

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its has some relation to the whole arg

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also new flower

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could be the "thing" bc the thing was in yellow

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i think i got something

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the code in the frames is a caesar sipher

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ljwcanvnvknacqnv is "cant remember them"

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its a -9 shift so a = r

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this is like the only clue in the hidden vid

jovial crypt
# midnight sierra

Ok i can tell this wasnt suposed to be in the video almost for sure right? (Gime a 😬 )

odd hollow
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I wonder what's the point of the ciphers? What is this information being hidden from?

jovial crypt
odd hollow
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I hope it doesn't end up being cipher spam. I am not a fan of those kind of projects imo.

jovial crypt
odd hollow
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Oh no, I'm not arguing that it isn't solvable, but saying that I hope it doesn't end up including ciphers just for the sake of it, y'know?

jovial crypt
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Aslong as it dosent turn into testradio stuff its ok 😂

midnight sierra
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im still trying to find the song

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if its a real song

jovial crypt
odd hollow
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Likewise

midnight sierra
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the new desc has SORRY and then YY

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i thought of that instantly

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also, i cant find the song at the end

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it has to be original or a heavly inspired song of some sort

midnight sierra
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so far

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only other things have been links but they were obv

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this one was way mroe discrete

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also

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i think it has to be "cant remember them" in caesar

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the clock literally shows the time 9

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and the shift was

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9

crimson bolt
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I know the song

midnight sierra
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really?

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tell me

odd hollow
midnight sierra
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PLEASe

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i only have one song like it

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but its a stretch

crimson bolt
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The playlist is everywhere at the end of time by care taker

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The song it’s just a burning memory

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U probably heard the song before

midnight sierra
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no not that

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im talkign about at the end of the public video siblings

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its the guitar strumming one

jovial crypt
odd hollow
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it was 9 o'clock that snowy evening, when the house began to morph into something unrecognizable. it grew eyes that watched me in the darkness, ears that heard my every breath, and a mouth that would surely swallow me whole if i continued. yet despite my better judgement, i continued into that old, wretched house. i continued into that horrible ...

▶ Play video
crimson bolt
jovial crypt
midnight sierra
jovial crypt
odd hollow
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No. It's the new video. The only version got privated

odd hollow
crimson bolt
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It’s just a slower weirder version

midnight sierra
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but the lyrics?

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i personally dont hear it

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but you could be right

crimson bolt
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I found something big

midnight sierra
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what?

crimson bolt
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Do u see the person

midnight sierra
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yeah i mentioned that

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its amy

crimson bolt
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That’s not Amy

midnight sierra
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oh yeah

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also look at this

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edit this ss

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is there a figure here?>

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i feel like i see tan arms

crimson bolt
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Yes

midnight sierra
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im pretty sure thats amy

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the flowers arms

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everything similar

crimson bolt
midnight sierra
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yeah but thats nothing like the video audio

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for me personally

jovial crypt
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Huh wops

midnight sierra
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can you edit this pls

jovial crypt
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Here you go

midnight sierra
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@jovial crypt does the audio sound like burning memories to you?

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or something else

jovial crypt
midnight sierra
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ugh

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did you see arms in the original

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it could be perfectly colored pixels but idk

jovial crypt
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Na, cant see anithing

crimson bolt
midnight sierra
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so do we think its amy, a shapeshift of amy, or smth else

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my guess is its the thing

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as amy

jovial crypt
midnight sierra
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these are somewhat the lyrics i made out:

come back again, i know that we might,why wont you come back again, lesser than your skin and you know it goes back again

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side note :"it grew eyes that watched me in the darkness, "

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this is in the desc and prolly references that ss

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and then this quote: “maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.'"

is from the book house of leaves

crimson bolt
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Nvm wrong song

midnight sierra
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i was gonna say bro

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i thought u were high

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or i was...

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help me find that song

crimson bolt
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Ok

midnight sierra
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the only relation i found is a scottish folk song that has the name charlie in it and has the only similarity being the Will Ye No Come Back Again

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buts its a bold stretch

jovial crypt
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Maybe its not a cover just made for the video, creator seams to use alot of music we didnt find i asume he makes music

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Im kinda between things at the moment, jumping from discord and twitch where im a mod sorry if i dont respond always

midnight sierra
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otherwise, thats it for these paired videos. Here are our new/reformed discoveries:

  • Hidden vid: Casaer cipher in item frams spellikng "cant remember them" with a -9 shift a = r

  • Hidden vid: amy (or something taking the shape of amy) is lurking in the rooms, reference to the desc of the video

  • Public vid: song at the end of the vid wit han unknow song of these lyrics-ish: come back again, i know that we might,why wont you come back again, lesser than your skin and you know it goes back again

it also shows i think a new flower in a picture, the daisy with the date 2026 under it and i think Theo's flower next to it

  • Public vid: the "thing" is in yellow and could be the daisy

  • Public vid: amy and charlie mention "hard to breath" (hint to drowning) and talk about the mom as "taken over" (im assuming they know the mom died of the thing now)

  • Public vid: charlie still has a chance to do something that the others really cant and he is show an escape at the end

crimson bolt
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It could be Come Back Again" by Daddy Cool

midnight sierra
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@crimson bolt @jovial crypt

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can yall access the hidden vid anymore?

crimson bolt
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“Skin" by Dijon or Bon Ive

midnight sierra
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the creator changed the vid

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its the same but a new upload

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and new link

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it was 9 o'clock that snowy evening, when the house began to morph into something unrecognizable. it grew eyes that watched me in the darkness, ears that heard my every breath, and a mouth that would surely swallow me whole if i continued. yet despite my better judgement, i continued into that old, wretched house. i continued into that horrible ...

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what changed?

jovial crypt
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Well if he changed it we should consider this the new original, maybe he just found something that didnt work or so

crimson bolt
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Why is there 3 videos

midnight sierra
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he edited out the tool editor

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and added the morse code

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-.-. .- -. -/.-. . -- . -- -... . .-./- .... . --/--. .-.. .- ... .../.--. .- .-. -.-/.... .- -../.- .-.. .-- .- -.-- .../..-. . .-.. -/... -- .- .-.. .-../-... ..- -/-. . ...- . .-./- .... .. .../... -- .- .-.. .-../.... --- .--/-- ..- -.-. ..../-.. .. -../ -.-- --- ..-/... .- -.-. .-. .. ..-. .. -.-. ./..-. --- .-./-- -.--/... .- -.- .

cant remember them glass park had always felt small but never this small how much did you sacrifice for my sake

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its the cant remember them

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so i was correct with the cipher

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but ig it was useless lol

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wow

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what a fast fix by the guy

jovial crypt
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Ahaaaaaaa i did know he made writing mistake there ok thats nice

midnight sierra
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it references the other unlisted vid

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of the small town

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or of the first vid

jovial crypt
crimson bolt
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AI says the song is Lesser Than Your Skin" by The Sweetest Ache.

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But I can’t find the song

midnight sierra
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ai is hallucinating

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i dont think ai is finding this one

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it has to be original or so heavily different its unrecognizable

crimson bolt
midnight sierra
crimson bolt
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It gave my 10 different songs

midnight sierra
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this is the thumbnail

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its custom and different than the clock in the video

jovial crypt
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I recommend ai just for decoding stuff, its a machine it does machine things

midnight sierra
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7:40?

crimson bolt
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Yeah

jovial crypt
midnight sierra
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but its not that texture in the video

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why go through the hassle to change it

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the ones in the video are all 9:00 to my knowledge

crimson bolt
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I’m going to sleep

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So I won’t be online

midnight sierra
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same

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this hurts my brain

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otherwise, thats it for these paired videos. Here are our new/reformed discoveries:

  • Hidden vid: Casaer cipher in item frams spellikng "cant remember them" with a -9 shift a = r

also morse code at the end says "cant remember them glass park had always felt small but never this small how much did you sacrifice for my sake"

also unique thumbnail with the clock saying 7:40 unliek the whole video where it says 9:00

  • Hidden vid: amy (or something taking the shape of amy) is lurking in the rooms, reference to the desc of the video

  • Public vid: song at the end of the vid wit han unknow song of these lyrics-ish: come back again, i know that we might,why wont you come back again, lesser than your skin and you know it goes back again

it also shows i think a new flower in a picture, the daisy with the date 2026 under it and i think Theo's flower next to it

  • Public vid: the "thing" is in yellow and could be the daisy

  • Public vid: amy and charlie mention "hard to breath" (hint to drowning) and talk about the mom as "taken over" (im assuming they know the mom died of the thing now)

  • Public vid: charlie still has a chance to do something that the others really cant and he is show an escape at the end

burnt harbor
burnt harbor
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@jovial crypt @midnight sierra @odd hollow we need to cook

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ai studio is stucked at incident rn

jovial crypt
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Im kinda busy here at the moment, we are on the frontpage today

jovial crypt
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Twitch

burnt harbor
odd hollow
burnt harbor
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btw the video beta 1 is coming soon only amysdevitation and premonition today

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after i came home

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i'll done asap

jovial crypt
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@odd hollow nah we started of with 1.4k today but its not relevant to this

burnt harbor
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before in midterm exam

midnight sierra
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We need RGN to make a new one too

burnt harbor
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so i'll release it in discord

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@midnight sierra @jovial crypt and @odd hollow will cook these when i'm stuck

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i'll share it on discord

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not on yt yet

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not finished yet

midnight sierra
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Sounds good bro

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Don’t spend too much time on this, midterms more important

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I’m a CS major and I need to spend more time studying as well 😭

burnt harbor
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and after each videos, will have analysis

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idk if it's great

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but please work these

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i'm gonna busy for a while

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btw it's 50% of exporting

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and yea no ai on this part

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only my hands

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and my brains

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and yours too

midnight sierra
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Will do 🫡

burnt harbor
burnt harbor
burnt harbor
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@jovial crypt @midnight sierra @odd hollow i’m done but the file is 165MB so i need to convert it to webm

burnt harbor
cinder skiff
crimson bolt
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Do we know who this is

burnt harbor
snow flower
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Any clue if rgn will cover the rest of amiesaurus?

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I'm quite bad at piecing stuff myself

burnt harbor
snow flower
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fire

midnight sierra
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The only thing we really need is a checklist/document where we keep our leads and findings

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Otherwise, we are going down the same rabbit holes

zealous sky
snow flower
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That does make sense

zealous sky
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like the end of a season or something. Doing mid-season update videos (like I did for the 312 mystery) is kind of clunky, and I'd like to avoid that if possible

snow flower
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I'd assume making videos like 312 and alphaver isn't convenient

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Speaking of, are there any plans to cover mark 101 s2?

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Or is it too convoluted and such

zealous sky
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I know, I get asked about that a lot. I have been thinking about it for a while

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I am a little afraid of how complicated it is

snow flower
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Yeah I get that

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It is a rly convoluted series so

jovial crypt
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It sure is A LOT of stuff

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And many lose ends

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By the way Retro, we discovered who the creator is but we decided to ignore it because it would kill the fun, only a few know who it is

zealous sky
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Yes, I know who the creator is too

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but I won't talk about it obv

jovial crypt
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Perfect, just wanted to know if you know it too, thats enough

jovial crypt
# midnight sierra

The shelves, the clock, the tables... man, we need to find that assets/mod. If we find that, we can exclude generic textures that are simply from the mod from our investigation and concentrate on the things that then stand out.

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I pushed the gamma to the max, this is a better angle a few frames before the other picture

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Even more gamma made on the newer pic

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Dont get fooled by the pink color, because on thiss level of gamma everithing containing the slightes bit of red starts to glow like that, it could be a normal red

plush breach
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fairly certain its amy, looks a lot like her skin

jovial crypt
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Yea it matches quite well

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But why is she there and who is the player

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And we have a lot of pillars again kindof

plush breach
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player could be charlie, but since its in a dream it could very well be amy too, and this could be the shapeshifter

jovial crypt
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She just stands there, no interaction, strange

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like a piece of clothing

plush breach
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i'd like to think its the shapeshifter trying to mimic amy's appearance

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but from what i understand, it actually takes control of someone?

jovial crypt
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I kinda strugle with the term shape shifter, did we see it shift shape? I kinda like the term deamon more because the religious stuff, the chappel etc

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Possesionn

plush breach
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yeah that works for me

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also, what did the guy do to his kids?

jovial crypt
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We still dont know, the Og mother died, then they moved

plush breach
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well from my understanding, the dad (i forgot his name) sent them to a friend's house cuz his wife, Rise, was sick. Then she died, and they stayed in a house in glass park

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and idk if the demon was kept in the basement of the new house of the old one where Rose died

jovial crypt
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Ist alot of lore , for sure , im loosing track 😬

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We need like an archive, or a summary of what we know and what we dont

plush breach
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for sure, but i aint doing it cuz im also very very lost

burnt harbor
crimson bolt
cedar ginkgo
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I do have one small theory of my own, but it’s only a puzzle piece — I can’t quite connect all the dots.

So: we have a cauldron, we have the text “don’t let me drown”, we have a “father” figure and a chapel, and we also have a deceased sibling who somehow died because of the father’s mistake.

Hear me out!

What if the father isn’t literally the “head of the family”, but a Father, like a priest? Maybe the unknown sibling died as a result of drowning during a baptism. In a lot of churches, children are christened either by sprinkling holy water on them or by being partially submerged in water — sometimes in a basin… or, in this case, a cauldron...

So my theory is: a priest accidentally killed a little boy during a baptism ritual. That’s why the voice of the deceased child hates and blames the “father” for his death. And that’s also why he doesn’t have a name — in many religious traditions, a child receives their name during or after the christening.

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And that’s also why we don’t know the father’s name — even though we know the names of every other family member (except for the child who died before receiving one).

cedar ginkgo
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Does anyone like that idea?

vital pilot
# cedar ginkgo Does anyone like that idea?

i like the idea but we do get a name for the eldest child (Which happened to be the unknown brother) and his name is Corey, we do get his perspective i dont remember exactly when if it was on Charlie 1 or Charlie 2 but his text was a deep sea blue. So he did have a name therefore he didnt die during baptism, i think he got killed by the Entity (Dont know f i would lable it a skin walker or a shapeshifter or smth of those sorts) since on the same video we get his perspective we can see the dad says "He got to her before me, and there he was lying on the floor with the figure of rose standing next to him" and then he says "I made a pact with it, i keep it fed with whatever means necessary as long as it makes them (His children) think they never had an older brother, it was always the three of them (Referencing Charlie, Amelia, and Theodore).

Also in some of the dad notes read by Charlie while making his way on the big ahh tower, says "I feel like a monster i burried her beneath my church, as long as the children know, their mother died of cancer" so we can connect the dots on previous episodes where the entity says "He buried me beneath that holy ground", but Corey went where she was buried on the curch and got slimmed

cedar ginkgo
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Oh ok
I didn't know that or do not remember that

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Where did you get all that info?

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About dad i mean

vital pilot
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And some by Corey i believe

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I saw it last night and i was tired so i cant remember who read what

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Also on the description of the last video, there is a youtube URL for an unlisted video in case you missed it

midnight sierra
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Otherwise, fairly good idea, but not likely

crimson bolt
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What brother drowned

midnight sierra
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i dont think we know 100%

crimson bolt
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What is the families last name

midnight sierra
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Angelson

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So we have: Amelia Angelson, Charlie Angelson, Theo Angelson, Corey Angelson, Joseph Angelson, and Rosemary Angelson

plush breach
jovial crypt
crimson bolt
carmine brook
# crimson bolt

there must be a missing section because using it as a google drive link doesn't work

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so, in the video in amy's playlist the persom who's calling for help and drowned was corey

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joseph gave rose/0001 one of amys t-shirts causing 0001 to unlock a lot of info about amy through rose's memories, which explains why it targeted amy spesifically

midnight sierra
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@jovial crypt Glass Park is mentioned in the doc, this might involve the wYYNG

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also, i think the creator is sending a message: "There’s no use in trying to pull whispers and codes that don’t exist out of thin air."

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if i had to pull anything out of this, it would be that:

  • Amy (Amelia) could be possessed like Rose was
  • Glass Park is still important (mainly the church)
  • The pillars still play a large role in that they were delibrately shown to Amy in dreams.
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As for the video:

  • I think the father only said three children, so he lied about Corey again
  • Pink tulip (the father's flower) in the basement
  • we should analyze what we can see of the father's skin
  • When it flashes those messages, it says something like "HE was always at the door", this might refer to the blue figure in old videos who at this point im sure is the father due to the FAITH game and other factors
  • as for the song used when they flash, its Who Could Win A Rabbit by Animal Collective which has themes of tortoise and the hare but most importantly, slowly killing the rabbit aka the 0001 slowly killing rose
  • in terms of who was saying the stuff in red text, its probably Rose from the basement
jovial crypt
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The first place one could look... what would that be?

burnt harbor
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@jovial crypt Siblings:
This new footage is a game-changer for your "Indecisive Charlie" and "2026 Migration" theories. It shows a direct dialogue between the two lost siblings, Amy and Theo, inside the updated 1.20+ server.

Here is a detailed analysis of the new video to help you with your own presentation:

  1. The Conversation: Theo (White) and Amy (Purple)

We finally see the two digital ghosts interacting.

Theo's Regret: The white serif text is Theo. He is apologizing to Amy: "I was a bad sibling. I wasn't there when you needed me the most." This confirms Theo died after Amy (trying to find her in the tunnels) and carries the guilt of her 2014 death into the 2026 cloud server.

The Entity Exposed: Amy (the purple text) explains exactly what the "Mother/Entity" is: "That thing feeds off memories... it shows you stuff you want to see... then it tears you limb from limb."

The "Like Mom" Confirmation: When they say "Like mom, huh?" / "Yeah... like mom," it confirms that the Mother (Rosemary) has been completely hollowed out and replaced by the Entity. The Entity is using Rose's "semblance" as a lure.

  1. The 1.20+ Paradox: "Nothing like this in his notes"

Amy observes the modern Minecraft environment (snow layers, lanterns, the high-def pillars) and says: "There was nothing like this in his notes."

The Logic: This proves that the Pillars and the 1.20 update features were not part of the Father's original 2014 world.

The Theory: Either the Entity evolved the world to trap them, or Charlie’s 2026 cloud migration (Altare.sh) introduced these new elements, and the ghosts are confused by the "future" technology.

  1. The "Choice" (The Redirect to Life)

Amy tells Theo: "You have a choice to make... one that I didn't get."

Theo is the Key: This supports your reincarnation (đầu thai) theory. Amy is too far gone (dead since 2014, fully "defragged" by the Entity), but Theo "returned alive and alone."

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Theo is the only one who can still "Redirect to Real Life." Amy is staying behind to hold off the Entity so Theo can escape.

  1. The "Come Back Again" Glitch (2026)

The ending is a direct transmission from the year 2026.

The Music: The song is a distorted version of "Come Back Again" by Liz Phair.

The Meaning: This is the Entity (The Mother) speaking to Charlie. She knows he migrated the server. She is telling him to "come back" to the Angelson house.

The Warning: While Amy wants Theo to leave, the Entity wants the whole family "back again" in the machine.

  1. Technical Note: The Lantern

Notice that the player is holding a Lantern.

As your group noted, lanterns were added in 1.14 (2019).

The fact that they are used in a 2026 video titled "Charlie" proves that the "Charlie" we are watching is the Present Day Charlie who has "gone in" (System Admin mode) to record his siblings.

Summary for your video/presentation:

The Sibling Roles: Theo is the "Guilty Navigator" seeking forgiveness. Amy is the "Veteran Ghost" who understands the Entity's true nature.

The Entity's MO: It is a "Memory Parasite." It built the Void Town using their happy childhood memories just to feed on their souls.

The Mission: Charlie (C. Harven) has successfully established a "Live Link" to the siblings in 2026. Amy is trying to push Theo toward the "Redirect to Life" (Reincarnation) before the Entity consumes the cloud server.

The Liz Phair Lyrics: The Entity is actively trying to lure the last survivor (Charlie) into the loop using the plea to "Come back again."

What do you think Theo's choice will be? Will he jump back into the "Real World" as a 2026 human, or will he stay to try and save Amy from the "Thing" that looks like their Mom?

midnight sierra
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But lowkey that’s so much digging that I don’t wanna do

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If I had to throw something out there. Probably Glass Park

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But again, it could be more specific

crimson bolt
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@midnight sierra @burnt harbor @jovial crypt
Very big news

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The creator of the playlist changed

jovial crypt
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Huh?

crimson bolt
midnight sierra
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Who was it originally?

jovial crypt
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I dont get it nothing changed to me

midnight sierra
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People can have public playlists

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Someone is just keeping track of the arg through public yt playlists

crimson bolt
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Yeah maybe ur right

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I found it on YouTube

jovial crypt
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Yea, and acording to them, wpoif is in them , so probably the person is on this server

crimson bolt
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Sorry

odd hollow
crimson bolt
odd hollow
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Glad that people are finally finding the playlist

burnt harbor
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sad news: i accidentally cleared my cache and I need to do all of them from scratch or from beta 1

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@midnight sierra

midnight sierra
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Noooooo

burnt harbor
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i'm got an exam all of afternoon this week

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i'm cooked

crimson bolt
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I think he stopped posting

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There might be one today

midnight sierra
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It’s been like a 4 day cycle

junior oyster
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I have not watched the latest charlie episode how much are we learning

crimson bolt
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It’s been 5 days since a video

junior oyster
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wait

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Is the entity infecting Theo?

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you guys have the Rose Entity doc right

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wtf I'm reading this right now

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Joseph killed people for his mutated wife???????

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I am so disappointed in this man

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I understand why the entire arg has proped him up to have done horrible things

burnt harbor
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as same as my overfitting gemini

junior oyster
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Or 0001 sorry

storm mirage
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man i havent been following this

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when next video

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by rgn

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im too lazy to catch up now

midnight sierra
burnt harbor
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is rosemary ate amy

midnight sierra
junior oyster
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Like I understand if you want to save your wife from a parasite no one knows about but

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Bro cannot draw the line anywhere but with his own family

burnt harbor
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@midnight sierra I planned I will make from scratch

midnight sierra
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Sounds good

burnt harbor
zealous sky
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"...but you trust me, do you not?" (Amiesaurus17)

normal hill
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-# ss from Spotify... again

burnt harbor
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.

normal hill
soft solar
normal hill
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oh not like the mob ghast, whoops, mbad

soft solar
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I was talking about the guy who says "My Deltarune" "the man who speaks in hands"

crimson bolt
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I think the arg probably ended

midnight sierra
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let's hope not

midnight sierra
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it was so interesting, the first videos before the long hiatus were so obscure and unique

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these newer ones were lacking real concrete information

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only codes that lead to empty phrases

pseudo wraith
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Alright, here's my personal theory on this one. I think the dead brother and the entity are one and the same.

I believe the "Don't let me drown" text came from the dead brother, who probably drowned due to some sort of negligence/complacency from the father. I believe that's why the brother is buried under the church and the father became heavily religious. This part of the theory is directly supported by the brother/entity blaming the father for his death.

I also think that if my theory is correct, burying the child under the church and not next to it makes sense as a way to hide the evidence, as child neglect, especially if it results in the death of said child, would have landed him in jail for a very long time.

I think that the entity is some kind of malevolent presence born directly from the vengeance of the child that died, that is tearing the family apart as a form of revenge on the father, taking everything away from him. It is likely why the father kept it in a cage under the house, experimenting on it, in a parallel to how the actual physical body of the brother is buried under the church.

junior oyster
old night
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Since I am late to the party imma just pop some balloons that were either missed or not elaborated more

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  1. In the Amysdeviation.mp4, when the green sky flashes and we hear the texts, Amy follows the white text away from the pillars and we see dark blue flowers towards that direction.
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  1. A small thing but i suppose the Amydeviation and premonition videos are most likely her dream as she saw her death in her dream, because of her powers. The voice could referred to her dream notes.
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  1. The unnamed brother Corey died because of her mother possessed by the entity(0001). He drowned. Corey is not the one bringing harm and killing everyone, so the yellow flower which we have been seeing is actually the entity. But then what is Corey's flower? I think its Cornflower(dark blue), as supposed by his dark blue text in the vision of "Charlie2" vid. We have seen a cornflower in the "apart" vid.
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  1. At 0:40 in Charlie2 vid, we see a yellow thing trapped in a prison and someone outside observing. The one trapped could be the entity(0001).
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  1. At 3:30 when we hear the whispers, it says something along the line of "Everything is okay, all right. You should be dreaming".
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  1. At 3:53, when Charlie enters the colourful room there is something peculiar on the walls. Could this represent the family? What are houses signify?
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  1. The description of Charlie2 is a quote in the Great divorce btw....makes sense.
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  1. In the Siblings vid, when Charlie says IT in the start. It is highlighted in yellow....
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  1. The description of this vid is a quote from House of Leaves, combinjng the first letters spell "sorry". And the last letters, "reset".
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  1. The azure bluet is just Theo and the orchid refers to the heavens, as we know from RGNs vid. The song which people were curious about (that also plays in the end of amysworldpillars.mp4) is "Always You" by Animal Collective.
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This whole story up until now has been lowkey exhausting. So did I cook or am i cooked

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(the "reset" thing could be just a coincidence)

crimson bolt
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I think the story has ended

old night
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in the document of the father there is message for Theo that we have yet to seem come true.

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wpeoif didnt ended the arg with overandoverandgone and likewise there are many examples though

crimson bolt
old night
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idk

old night
crimson bolt
old night
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yeah

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Theo's playlist is like the last since it shows Charlie and Amy dead

crimson bolt
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new video

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Wow

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Theo woke up

old night
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Told ya

odd hollow
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"u8xqlrq"

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What could that mean?

tacit hornet
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could be wrong and it could be a url to smth

odd hollow
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Yeah, but how would they indicate case sensitivity?

tacit hornet
old night
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I think he's asking in the case if it's a link

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Couple of statics

tacit hornet
crimson bolt
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It’s a link I’m pretty sure

tacit hornet
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for what tho

crimson bolt
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Wait

tacit hornet
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i asked chatgpt to give me some examples of sites it could be for but i got nothing

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hiugrtuhigerhiuerghuigre

crimson bolt
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wYYNGu8xqlrq maybe could be a link

tacit hornet
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it's also not a rot cipher obv

tacit hornet
old night
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its a code from tour of a small town vid

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wYYNG

tacit hornet
crimson bolt
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Yeah

tacit hornet
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wait let me put it in the code finder

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nvm

crimson bolt
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@odd hollow you wanna send it to the email

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Say the code

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Or someone do it

normal hill
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why?

crimson bolt
normal hill
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why can't u do it?

crimson bolt
crimson bolt
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Someone else did it

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But he didn’t say what was in the email

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I just need someone to tell me what it says

old night
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@crimson bolt

old night
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0:43 a voice says,"I swear, I swear that Glass Park gets smaller every year".

old night
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The song at the end when the white text speaks to Theo is again "Always You" havent identified the second one that played in the car

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Also the voice talks in all lowercase like some of the weird videos title

tacit hornet
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has the wYYNGu8xqlrq code been solved yet

old night
burnt harbor
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I WILL BACK

chilly vault
chilly vault
# old night nah we dont know if wYYNG and u8xqlrq are connected

I believe it is

"I swear, I swear that Glass Park gets smaller every year"
The video where the small letter cases shows Glass Park as very small -> Recent history.
And the whole video is investigation, which connects us to C. Harven / Investigators.

And the u8xqlrq are in the UNAVAILABLE video which gives us back the message

The one thing that's really confuses me is the email, [email protected]. How is that connected to the investigators? They're 100% actively working together

chilly vault
# old night

Rose is colored red (As in her flower + end of Charlie 2), the color "yellow" I believe represent how much the Entity consumed Rose, this means half. Becoming white in the Theo chapter? Well that's what I think.

chilly vault
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I also think Charlie is not dead yet, and the series didn't end yet too

Officers have stated with confidence that they will not rest until Theodore and Charlie Angelson are found, and their parents are brought to justice.
Amy was found, Entity0001/Rose was not... Even though Rose can't move.
Charlie 2 indicates an escape [See attachments]

chilly vault
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Found something
It's not u8xqlrq, it's uhxqlrq (You can hear it)
And caesar shift by -3 gives "reunion"
Which is the word to send to the email afaik, I'll try it

burnt harbor
chilly vault
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I think due to prior context, "WAKING UP" is generally thought to be the waking up of Theodore after the jump he made, and the mentions of Theo being the one who solves this in the google docs, and the hidden line, and the clear Theo mentions in the video itself...

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Yet why the playlist of that video has no name?
And the title style, it's the same as "tour of a small town"

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This might be Corey all along

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you've been asleep
for a very long time

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welcome back // welcome home

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theo

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But did Theo really have been alseep for that long?
Corey might be a better fit in here

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Might be a stretch but the pieces might make sense
Theo won't fit in perfectly

old night
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This is like a doc i made a while ago not including the 4th playlist stuff

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A collection of what people have found (some my own) and what remains in question

chilly vault
old night
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the only thing I can think of is the fact that wYYNG were at very specific places related to each member of the family.
w - at the wood stair thingy which Theo loved
Y - at a house( probably Charlie and Amy)
Y - the Chapel related to the father, Joseph
N - the grave probably of the mother, Rose
G - the basement where Corey died

the last two can be flipped though.
But i found nothing from it (maybe i could have gone wrong).

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these videos of lowercase titles are weird and somewhat ambiguous on whos perspective is it, except the "apart" vid in Amys playlist which looks to be from Amys perpective.

old night
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Also in "tour of a small town" vid, there is for some reason a grave in the graveyard with no flowers others have a dandelion meaning probaly o7'ed by the entity.

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this series is toooo rich

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i lowkey tried geolocating the irl shots in "waking up" vid but then thought like why.. xd

chilly vault
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Corey had a Dark Blue text, but only when he was remembered maybe?

chilly vault
chilly vault
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Too much is going on, no one can fit everything in his head
I'll start compiling the whole thing in a doc soon

old night
burnt harbor
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amy í so dead rn

chilly vault
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Yeah for sure

grand venture
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has anyone made a document on this ARG yet?

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I kinda made a doc about the ARG because I got bored

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and I wanna post it here

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...unless someone already made one?

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eh fck it I'ma just drop the thing

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did it even send

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there we go

chilly vault
chilly vault
odd hollow
chilly vault
odd hollow
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@grand venture @old night Both of y'all are maintiaining google documents for this series, which is great, but we should get it all consilidated into one document. Choose the document that will act as the "main" one and I'll get it pinned.

odd hollow
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But that is y'all's choice

deft birch
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you can add tabs into the "main" document to keep the documents separate, but consolidated

tacit hornet
chilly vault
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I love a randomly appearing video in THE MIDDLE OF MY INVESTIGATION

tacit hornet
cinder skiff
chilly vault
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OK I found something important
The YT captions hide details:

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I wonder if there are styled captions that could be hidden, like completely black or something

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00:01.476 THE PILLARS ARE GETTING LOUDER
01:47.399 C-B T-G S+F O+D Y+B R+E U-H K-F
01:50.187 close your eyes again, theo
01:54.179 come back to me
02:55.508 do you blame her for this?
chilly vault
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My transcription:

And from that point onward, their presence became impossible to ignore.
It's a tall wooden pillars covered the girl's path.
Sometimes they were still and other times they would move when she wasn't looking. 
And very rarely, they would speak to her in her dreams.
She would often ask her friends and family if they could hear the voices, but no matter how hard she tried, nobody seemed to believe her.
Eventually the girl ran away, hoping to escape the tall wooden pillars.
But wherever she ran, they would follow. They would listen. They would learn.
Too young to understand the young boy soon found his sister was missing.
He asked where she had gone but no body could give him an answer.
And so he wondered, search for her, eventually finding one of many pillars.
The next came shortly after a hypnotizing of breadcrumbs to the boy.
He followed in her footsteps, eager to find where she possibly could've gone.
But little did he know, the world would begin to ch-change, shift in impossible ways.
The world became glass, a façade that only existed to keep him moving forward.
By the time he finally looked back, there was no longer home to return to.
Just more pillars.
Having nothing else to do, he burned them down. One by one.

Hand made

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This basically says Cherlie is dead

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And I think I know how the entity kills

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Basically, they trap them in a "Dream" that's a reality
If they die in it, they die for real

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This is what happens to Charlie, thinks he's in a dream, jumps of the building, and then... self implied.

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That what should've happen to theo

"The world became glass"
The entity built Void Town ("Glass Park"),
The world became glass, a façade that only existed to keep him moving forward.
But Theo escaped, didn't listen to the "Dream" and "turned his eyes".

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Also, a huge one, this looks like a desert, right?

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This is where Amy was on half a heart in amyspremonition.mp4 0:53

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I feel like there are like 1k connections that we can now make

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The image is clear

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Everyone is dead except Theo
Theo is the "SUCCESSOR" of Charlie and all family members, will this mean he'll find the same fate anyway? Who knows

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Also, I noticed this waaaaaaaaay too long ago

Amy is playing in single player

Not a server, how could someone talk to here and play with her?
RGN didn't mention this, nor IKilledThatFox's 56 page doc

chilly vault
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Maybe because the friend she's talking about and wants to be with is the same horrifying entity that caused all of this and killed her...
That's actually really dark and just pains my heart somehow

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I don't even think there's a comparable ARG to this

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There's no happy ending in sight
This is just too much, I don't wanna think about this anymore, I already get it now
I'm gonna wait for the next video

grand venture
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A WHOLE NEW VIDEO??

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ok I'ma update the document later and stuff

grand venture
tacit hornet
grand venture
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I updated it

grand venture
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I made the analysis of the whole thing as I understand it

dawn solstice
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Thanks

burnt harbor
chilly vault
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Just had a random thought
Who runs the channel after Charlie's death? The video titles are now IN CAPS FOR SOME REASON which matches the entity's titles in the THEO playlist...
It's a very cool detail

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I'm new to RGN's discord and I don't know if all of these details documented by me and others are gonna be collected in some way