#World I didn't create

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mild nebula
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Last year on 2024, I decided to boot up my old computer to extract some files from it.
The main goal of this was to get some old TF2 maps that I had downloaded from when I used to play on that old thing, but eventually I decided to go and copy some old Minecraft worlds from way back then.
I didn't know what the folder was called for saves, and I didn't know how to go through the files of an intel PC, so I used the file search and looked up "world" thinking the folder is called "worlds."
When I came back to the computer it found a folder called "world" which was not in the saves folder of the game.
This world wasn't something that I have created before.
There's nothing too odd about the world itself, there's no structures or any sign of player activity.
However, the time upon booting the world doesn't start how a new world would normally start. It starts way later in the evening, as though there was some playtime.
Another oddity is the players folder is completely empty.

I know I didn't create this world for a couple of reasons:
Around the time of the world, younger me was scared of going into survival, which the world is. To the right of spawn is this extreme hills, which would've terrified me as a kid, especially with the janky lighting the game had back then.
The name 'world' is a default value for worlds created to host a server. Which I would have never known how to do that as a kid.

If you are curious, here's a link to the google drive for the world. The version is 1.6.2 1.2.1 if you want to experience it without chunk errors.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oM5VX-q6PHv5eu0R4zhKzrdmWRVk-TAz/view?usp=sharing

If anyone has any ideas on how this world could've been created, please let me know.

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Google Docs
world.zip
copper locust
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hmm, maybe I'll take a look

solemn blaze
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well the players folder is empty

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so its most likely a server world

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that no one joined?

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something strage

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is that the version number

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in level.dat

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corresponds to 1.2.1?

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taken from the wiki

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weirdly enough the "last played" time is like way off

mild nebula
solemn blaze
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the last played time corresponds to 9PM (GMT), but the last modified date is 1PM (GMT)

solemn blaze
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let me see if its the same world when i generate with the same seed on 1.6.2

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it is the exact same world -2552540453851867318

mild nebula
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Also I don't think the terrain adds up to 1.2.1 either.

solemn blaze
mild nebula
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Would've guessed

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I swear this world gets even more confusing the more you look into it

solemn blaze
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love it when 1.2.1 crashes when i try to open it

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wait..

solemn blaze
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sorry for the pause menu

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so it generates the same world on 1.2.1 and 1.6.2?

mild nebula
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I think that just means terrain generation wasn't modified.

solemn blaze
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so its most likley that the world was generated on 1.2.1

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because the version number says so

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let me check

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its definitley NOT 1.6.2/

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theres a diffrence in the nbt data

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when you read it

mild nebula
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So what you're telling me is this world was somehow created in 2013, on minecraft version I didn't even play on?

solemn blaze
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thats what all the dates saqy

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even weirder

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the file that was sent is diffrent

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at the top

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under "Data"

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1.2.1 has 19 entries

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1.6.2 has 24

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but the save has 23..

mild nebula
solemn blaze
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it wouldnt make sense

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why would someone leave a world dormant

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for 2 years

mild nebula
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Maybe the files were modified in 2015?

solemn blaze
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or a server

solemn blaze
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making a server, in 2013, and then reopening it later in 2015??

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and then still no one joins?

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you can tell because the player folder is older

mild nebula
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But if someone WAS on the server how come the folder is completely empty?

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If someone was on the server to let the day pass, wouldn't that mean someone would've joined the world?

solemn blaze
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but then

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how would the chunks even generate?

mild nebula
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I don't know

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But the folder is completely empty.

solemn blaze
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because its not a bug

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i made the world and my user showed up in the players folder

mild nebula
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Because the time of the world start is around evening.
How would the chunks generate and how would the time move if nobody was ever on the world to begin with?

solemn blaze
mild nebula
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I'd have to need someone to confirm that.

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I'm not an expert on the technical side of Minecraft.

solemn blaze
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new discovery

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items on the groud?

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6 of them?

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string?

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maybe a spider?

mild nebula
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Maybe some water flowed through a mineshaft and destroyed some cobwebs?

solemn blaze
mild nebula
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There's a dungeon and a mineshaft under the player spawn.

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I think the dungeon is in a ravine?

solemn blaze
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Not a single player joined.

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Spawn is at/near chunk 6,3

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none of the chunks around or near that have a player entity

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so its concluded that a player NEVER joined.

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if you open a world it will have a "player" field in the nbt data.

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theres not such a field in this

mild nebula
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Yeah, I definitely didn't create this world.

solemn blaze
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after some digging

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poking around the files

solemn blaze
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is the player field

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world i joined

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the save

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you can see that basically everything is the same

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minus the player field

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this probably leads us back to the idea that this world is on 1.6.2

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turns out, the version field was broken in 1.2.1

mild nebula
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So what version is it then?

solemn blaze
mild nebula
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That makes a little bit more sense.

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As I said, 1.5 is when I started playing.

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But this world is basically a ghost world.
A world without a player.

solemn blaze
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yes

mild nebula
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That still doesn't explain how the time isn't the usual time on world creation or how there's a playtime on the world despite that.

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Can a server run a world without there being anyone there?

solemn blaze
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a few seconds after i started the server i got these values

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Yes

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time does pass even if no one logs on.

solemn blaze
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uh ohhh

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somethings wrong

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region files on the save

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region files on the server..

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mild nebula
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What could this mean?

solemn blaze
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or its a non-vanilla server

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even tried upping the render distance

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nope

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same thing

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tried everything in vanilla i could think of

mild nebula
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Soo we are stuck at another anomaly.

mild nebula
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So, let me just see if I can understand what this means.
Somehow, this server generated more chunks than it should've and we don't know why.

nova birch
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Here's my theory.:

This world is actually something that someone else has sent online. The weird world generation may have caused them to share it online. People remove their own playerdata before sending this out. Another person on your pc may have downloaded it a while ago and checked it out in 2015, then stopped.

mild nebula
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I don't think anyone would've downloaded something like that though.
Nobody else in my family plays Minecraft. I don't have any siblings.
So maybe it was a virus? I don't know.

If your theory is true however, maybe someone can find the seed?
That would explain why it wasn't in the saves folder, but it doesn't explain why it's a server world.

nova birch
modern perch
mild nebula
mild nebula
nova birch
mild nebula
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I tried to put in the numbers in a google search, but it didn't really lead me anywhere.

mild nebula
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Maybe the spawn has something to do with it

solemn blaze
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and theres the same amount of files now

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so its to the seed

solemn blaze
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i dug into the chunk data and theres nothing

solemn blaze
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im using an "ai" search engine (perplexity) and its been searching for like 5 minutes and it hasnt found anything about the seed

modern perch
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why would a random seed be online? like 1000 random numbers??

solemn blaze
modern perch
solemn blaze
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but still

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maybe it was included in some virus

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or something

modern perch
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im not saying i would do this but makeing a minecraft virus sounds fun like imagen codeing random entiy to watch u to scare people

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and also why is world mystery so common now?

mild nebula
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Imagine back dooring some kid to run a Minecraft server, only for none of your friends to join.

modern perch
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this would happen to me🥀

mild nebula
modern perch
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ah ok

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do u think people fake them at all or nah?

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for like fun or smt

mild nebula
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I don’t think we had any incidents of that yet

brave sable
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So previously you said that no one from your family plays minecraft,but my question is: did anyone from your friend group/family did something on your PC? They could delete something

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But im
Not an expert at PCs and those things so idk

solemn blaze
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and found it outside of the minecraft saves folder

brave sable
mild nebula
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Unfortunately, I couldn't boot up Minecraft to check if it was somehow detecting it.
Because the computer was so old and slow, it couldn't update the launcher or download the new launcher.
Also someone would've had to not only create a world, but run a server on my computer for about nine minutes.

brave sable
mild nebula
errant fulcrum
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maybe copy the hard disk to a virtual machine but considering you said "go through the files of an intel PC" you probably don't know how to do that

brave sable
mild nebula
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I mean, the whole reason why I have this world here is because I used a flash drive to get it.
Wouldn't that just be the same result?

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I'm not sure if this would really get me anywhere.
Especially considering I have played in multiplayer worlds, (never my own) and I probably would've noticed it between the 10-12 years that I've had the game.

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This also isn't mentioning how the world itself was only active for 9 minutes.
When it was active I can't say for certain because there's many conflicting dates in the world file.

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Maybe this seed correlates to popular severs at the time?
Hypixel, Mineplex, those sort of servers?

errant fulcrum
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it is possible to run minecraft on a virtual machine unless you're using virtualbox (virtualbox has horrible 3d acceleration)

mild nebula
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Okay.
Maybe I won’t have to do that.
Because I found something big.

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The file for world was in my downloads folder.
But what’s even stranger is there’s a server jar and guts of a server in here.

errant fulcrum
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what's the created and modified date on the pc you found it on @mild nebula

mild nebula
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Hangon I got it on a flash drive.
I’ll take a gander on it.

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I found a server log and server properties-

errant fulcrum
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check the log then

mild nebula
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It also came with "minecraft_server.1.6.1.exe"

jaunty kettle
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the log usually contains info on the server

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what happened during when it ran

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all that

jaunty kettle
mild nebula
jaunty kettle
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it seems it was stopped after it started

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well

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in like

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a couple of minutes

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2014-02-26 16:29:39 [INFO] Done (1.448s)! For help, type "help" or "?"
2014-02-26 16:37:23 [INFO] Stopping server

mild nebula
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Then it started a year later

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There was also this one which was strangely, not a text file.
It had to be changed into one

📎 server.log.1.txt
errant fulcrum
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maybe check the browsing history on the pc for both dates to see if you did anything

mild nebula
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Give me a moment.
I’m getting virtual box and the download is slowing my PC down.

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Besides, that wouldn't help.
I use the same account as I did back then, and it doesn't go back that far.

errant fulcrum
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it could be saved locally on the computer

mild nebula
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Doubt it.
Besides, all my accounts are logged out.

errant fulcrum
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still possible though

jaunty kettle
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the world is def made cuz of the server @mild nebula

mild nebula
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Also the ops, whitelist, banned ips, and banned players text files are empty

mild nebula
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I’m getting a VM ready for that executable.
What’s strange is I dissected it and it appears to just be a jar file with exe on it.

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Better safe than sorry

errant fulcrum
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you could have just used a malware sandbox

mild nebula
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I did put in virus total.
It got one flag from some obscure antivirus that has a lot of false positives.

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Also there are two jars.
One is minecraft_server.1.6.1 the other is minecraft_server.1.6.1(1)

The first one was downloaded 9/6/2013 at 5:51 PM
The other was downloaded on 2/26/2014 at 3:53 PM

The exe was downloaded at 2/26/2014 at 4:29

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The white list was created a minute after the first jar

server.log.1 was created 2/26/2014 at 3:55 PM

server.log was created 3/15/2015 at 4:05
along with ops, banned players and banned ips.

errant fulcrum
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to me it seems like someone opened the folder with the old server then dragged everything from a separate server from 2015 and made it replace everything

mild nebula
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Everything was in my downloads folder.

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Still very strange.

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I also found a jar for Morph-Beta-0.9.2.
I’m guessing that’s a mod I downloaded.

jaunty kettle
mild nebula
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Lmao lost media found

errant fulcrum
mild nebula
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There was no server folder

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All of these were in my downloads folder.
I think the server when it ran just defaulted to that folder

jaunty kettle
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ima look if its lost

mild nebula
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I’ll have to find it on my PC again lol

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In my excitement I accidentally copied over a shortcut of it. Why is there a shortcut of it? Ask 10 year old me.

jaunty kettle
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hey 10 year old samson dreemurr undertale deltarune why is there a shortcut

mild nebula
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Khdkhxxkhchkchlculc

jaunty kettle
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wow that is so insightful 10 year old samson dreemurr undertale deltarune

mild nebula
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What’s funny is I kept some of my renamed desktop shortcuts
My recycle bin is still “Sacrifices to Danny Devito.”

jaunty kettle
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i must say sonsam purrmurr
you are quite the epical

mild nebula
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I CRACKED IT

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I ran the exe and it created a world file!

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It created everything!
The properties
The banned ips
Everything!
I figured it out!

jaunty kettle
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YO

mild nebula
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I must’ve ran this exe and when it seemingly didn’t do anything, I just quit.

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I think the mystery has been solved

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At least for the most part

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I still don't understand why the dates on everything are so strange

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Oh also hate to say it, but no morph-beta lol
Looks like it’s a dead shortcut

nova birch
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Looks like a lot has happened since I last checked this

mild nebula
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If anyone wants to have the 1.6.1 server generator, I can give it over, but use it at your own risk.

mild nebula
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Sorry if this whole thing was very anticlimactic.
Thanks for everyone helping out.
I appreciate all of it.

nova birch
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So basically what happened is that you accidentally downloaded the server jar instead of the client jar, and it created a world with the download file as the default directory?

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Am I reading this properly?

mild nebula
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It wasn't a jar file.
It was an executable.

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Executable jar file?

Something along those lines

mild nebula
nova birch
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Jars are like executables tho.

mild nebula
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I dunno what to tell you.
There's 3 files all named the same.
2 are jars. One is an executable with the minecraft dirt as it's icon.
Back before it became the crafting table.

nova birch
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Oh it's the launcher

mild nebula
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It is certainly NOT the launcher-

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It is called minecraft_server.1.6.1.exe

nova birch
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Oh wait. It might be the server console

mild nebula
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Maybe I need to give ten year old me some credit.
How did I even manage to find this?

nova birch
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ok I might know the reason

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Back in the day, I remember trying to download the newest version of minecraft from the minecraft.net website. I think it was 1.7.10 or something. However, both the server and client download are right next to each other (or at least very close), and I downloaded both of them.

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You may have done the same. Then accidentally ran the server jar, realized that this isn't working (this was before 2014, so the EULA agreement did not exist at the time, so it DID try to make a server). You didn't delete it, but got the client instead.

mild nebula
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That checks out

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I can see myself doing that

solemn blaze
errant fulcrum
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it probably was from windows search maybe, you searched for minecraft and in 2015 you opened the server jar you accidentally downloaded in 2014

mild nebula