THE DECAYED

[lethal spire]

is there an actual in-world reason behind having more vessels within the concept

is that beneficial or maybe even necessary

[compact plume]

Probably not

But not everything needs to be beneficial for everyone

[lethal spire]

have we considered everything being perceived the wrong way

what if the friends are in the wrong

[compact plume]

what if kargo actually hit his head really hard while going back home and then died from a concussion

I feel like with whatever architect is doing, ego is definitely playing some sort of role

And I feel like he's completely aware that he isn't in control anymore, but just wants to act like he is

And also he has the first 64 execs, which could also lead to the whole ego shenanigans

since he would probably consider that a flex

[lethal spire]

theres something big that is definitely overlooked

retro didnt acknowledge it in his video

but in exec footage - defiant, at the very last frame theres a text that says “he has no control here”

red text

implying its arc saying it

[compact plume]

I'm not saying that he literally has no control anymore

I'm just saying that he's definitely losing grip of it

also, he is very clearly trying to make people believe that he's a good guy

there's literally a video where he attempts to pull off the greatest gaslighting attempt known to man

[lethal spire]

right

thats where the question regarding the uploader appears

[compact plume]

Very FAR stretch, but it could also be possible that the channel creator is one of the other keepers who just wanted to defame architect

whether it'd be for selfish reasons or because he was just tired

keepers can definitely change names and skins, architect (I assume atleast) did this with kargo

And none of the keepers seem to be fond of him

In fact actually

The description of confrontation is written by one of the keepers

so I feel like that does actually legitimise the theory a lot so definitely not a far stretch now

[lethal spire]

kargo is a soulless body

matthew is the soul

[compact plume]

ah

[lethal spire]

he could totally have just taken control of the player

[compact plume]

yeah that makes sense

[lethal spire]

when matthew took control over voyeur it became half kargo because thats part of him

[compact plume]

exec footage Confrontation I meant

[lethal spire]

the description of confrontation is a discussion between keepers

excluding arc

[compact plume]

ye

[lethal spire]

not confirmed who but it is atleast 2

[uncut root]

i think they probably are

[compact plume]

I assume one of the people in the discussion is author, considering they state that they had to push him to make a change and while everyone chimed in, author did literally chime in with a threat so

[uncut root]

perhaps everyone is kept in loops because, as there are infinite vessels, allowing them to do as they please would quickly turn into pure chaos. remember that jacinthe wanted peace in the concept. and id assume that this was the only way the keepers could come up with to have peace

[compact plume]

Also a message to you implies that architect knows that the next videos will get posted on the channel

[uncut root]

would imply that videos are being uploaded by another keeper?

[compact plume]

Though it's definitely someone against him due to the description being the opposite of what arc wants

[lethal spire]

the videos are definitely posted in real in-world time

a message to you couldnt have been uploaded by arc later if he died in les fleurs earlier

[lethal spire]

possibly

[uncut root]

are you sure? a lot are out of order. the keepers discuss the 'outcast' (111) meeting the 3 friends before it happens in the next episode. unless there are multiple time axis involved

[lethal spire]

they didnt mention him meeting them

they mentioned him seeing them

[analog topaz]

instigator cause these videos will be instigating architect

[uncut root]

ah i guess they did just say he saw them yeah

[lethal spire]

if you look closely in abgrund, hes watching from a distance

[uncut root]

honestly author seems the most antagonistic to arch

[compact plume]

Actually I misunderstood what he said nvm

he does also seem to reiterate jacinthes message, but it could be to save himself who knows

I feel like one of the keepers being the uploader makes sense

[uncut root]

this has really odd implications for envoyeur and récepteur though

[lethal spire]

yeah ig thats an exception

cant really post those two at the same time

[compact plume]

Also, considering the fact that vessels seem to only be able to realize that they're in a loop if they get exposed to a disturbance. Something must've happened in the first video for sandy to realize

unless it just did that

[lethal spire]

i keep saying this but i really think thomas mightve done something

[compact plume]

if he did then he sure as hell did not expect it to work

The disturbance in question was probably the cut if I were to assume

[uncut root]

defiant's description seems to imply that this is actually all 03's fault somehow. perhaps being spotted by kargo before the sickness?

'exec_03 found a critical flaw in the system of the universe of The Decayed - somehow, vessels, when stimulated in some weird way, have the capability of escaping their supposed trajectories and finding oddities that they are not supposed to find, such as the map being unfinished in certain areas, invisible platforms that allow teleportation between worlds, and a lot, lot more.'

03 is also the first exec to appear to sandY advising him to stop

and i cant prove it but i really think the fake kargo was 03. similar speaking style

[compact plume]

Ok so I feel like what's happening with the channel creator is that it's basically a collaboration between Thomas and one of the keepers

[lethal spire]

thomas has been with the friends though

[compact plume]

wdym

[lethal spire]

how is he supposed to communicate with the keeper if hes with his friends trying to help them

actually no

[uncut root]

also the description of the video where thomas explains things to sandY says 'they will prevail' not 'we will prevail'

[lethal spire]

hes been gone for a long time

[compact plume]

I mean, the keepers are aware of what happens in architects quadrant and I assume he wouldn't have told them because even he had no idea exactly what was going wrong

[lethal spire]

we need help description

[compact plume]

So there's always a chance they can just go there

And most likely in return for his friends, he struck a deal with one of the keepers that wanted to do a bit of trolling

[lethal spire]

i dont think thomas is able to go to the keepers place

[uncut root]

same thing though in terms of POV its written from

[compact plume]

No that's not what I meant

[lethal spire]

rather the keepers are able to enter other quadrants

[compact plume]

I meant a keeper went to architects office hall

not that Thomas went to the keepers place

[lethal spire]

yea

author seems most likely as of now

its kinda confusing tho

if author is making the videos

[uncut root]

it seems like none of them would want the tree destroyed

[lethal spire]

hes one of the red keepers, how does this interact with the ending of defiant

[compact plume]

I doubt they expected it

Also the descriptions in "we need help" and "lifeless" basically say "yeah, they're gonna be fine"

and they also call Thomas a tour guide

so

[compact plume]

probably author said it or smth

Also Thomas looks REALL confused when he enters his little white space and I doubt he can make his own dimension or anything

so that was probably something that one of the keepers did for him if the theory is right

[lethal spire]

the keeper sent thomas to the white space

this would line up actually

what if this is where the collaboration starts

after the video ends the keeper enters aswell

[compact plume]

the megacollab...

[lethal spire]

everything up until 20 was planned

but then the sacrifice was the odd one out

unexpected for everyonr

[compact plume]

I feel like the 2 keepers that talked in the description of confrontation were one of the blue and one of the red keepers. This is assuming that white execs = blue keeper and that black execs = red keeper

founder I believe pushed the most on the blue quadrant

so its probably him if the exec thing is also true

and he just got one of his execs to help out

[lethal spire]

arc has 1-64

[compact plume]

yes

[lethal spire]

it would be 65-128

who has those

its white execs

so it alternates

instigator would have 65-128

since hes next to arc

[compact plume]

I was boutta say yeah that checks out

Also I feel like literally every blue exec is in on this plan

they are the most insistent and the most pushy

while the red ones just look into nothingness

except for author who chimes in like three times

Oh yeah also instigator literally stands for someone who creates trouble so

that kinda checks out

It's possible that instigator made the channel to begin with, told the other blue execs of the plan and author as well. Why, idk, maybe originator and the other guy I forgor the name of are particularly neutral or more friendly towards architect which means that telling them the plan would probably backfire

the author started managing it a tad more

they decided to use the opportunity that Thomas created and recruit him on their side with a promise to get his friends back as long as he does whatever they tell him and Thomas also became part of the plan

which also probably explains why Thomas is so sure that architect is not getting out of this in confrontation

my guy is literally just chilling with an entire army of 5 keepers making sure of architects downfall

This could also mean that one of those days was fabricated by the keepers who were on in this whole scheme

And it was in fact not an attempt to represent real life through Minecraft as I thought, but some other layer similar to grenzen that lets them mimic real world memories

or just very advanced Minecraft roleplay performed by the keepers alternatively

[compact plume]

now what's up with serenemist and xiphoid I don't really know. Veryyyyyy far stretch, but if we follow the theory of the channel being owned by a keeper, or keepers and Thomas being in on it. Xiphoid disappears after Thomas is teleported to the little white space

What I feel like could've happened here, is that since serenemist and xiphoid are simply a vessel whose purpose is to contain a soul. One of the keepers decided to inhabit serenemists vessel and probably kick out her soul in the process, pretty much turning her into a live camera feed. Also in answers, there's some irony with seneremist saying that it's hard to take 111 seriously due to him being so bright, while she is literally bright pastel. If this theory that serenemist began being controlled by a keeper was true, this would make sense as the keeper was probably used to their own skin, which wouldn't contrast with the environment as much. Though they said they were scared when they had to jump down to Grenzen in the video "Grenzen" so I'm not sure. Id imagine they'd just rush along

[compact plume]

TLDR the current theory I have for the stuff that hasn't been explained:

Thomas was very well aware of the fact that sandy and kargo were Andrew and Matthew and attempted to free them by causing a disturbance in the loop (my current candidate for that is probably the random cut that never happens again). Though he wasn't sure if this actually worked or not and as time passed, he assumed it didnt

One of the keepers (most likely instigator), found out about this whole thing in relation to sandys sudden sentience. Most likely because of sour relations with architect, instigator made the channel to defame arc in a way and he spread the word throughout the blue quadrant, as well as to author (most likely)

Eventually, Thomas finds out that his weird disturbance idea did actually work and he got a bit surprised by it. Most likely in an attempt to hide any and all traces that he may be a culprit in this situation, he burns the diaries that way the other execs can't connect the dots of Thomas, Andrew and Matthews friendship.

The keepers eventually got in contact with Thomas and decided to strike a deal with him. The deal being that he would get his friends back, as long as he did everything he could to help the keepers successfully ruin arcs reputation as much as possible. In this deal, they decided to give him a little white space where he could freely tell Andrew everything that he knew (and some things that he was probably told by the keepers) without worry of arcs arrival.
_ _

So he does the lore dump and Andrew believes him. Architect finds out about this channel and in a last ditch attempt, he tries to tell people that everything they see is made up.

Thomas guides serene, kargo and sandy through everything so they can eventually reach abgrund and possibly used the diaries as an incentive incase any more was needed

In loss of control, the blue side is notably the instigator (pun not intended) and is the most pushy, while the rest of the people on the red side (who presumably aren't in on this due to having either neutral opinions on arc or being friendly with arc) just stay there, quietly observing

When they reach the garden, Sandy's sacrifice was unexpected and unplanned, but Thomas went with it nonetheless even if it's not what the keepers wanted

I feel like architects whole character in this series is moreso of someone who has the right intentions but is just really impulsive and overconfident

The whole keeper striking a deal with Thomas stuff also explains how he is so confident and is just somehow aware of everything regarding the keepers existence already

Also I assume Thomas didn't like the keepers either as he quite literally states he doesn't, but for both sides they have their own reasons for wanting the same thing which is sometimes enough

Also now that I look back at confrontation, arc does spit some fax but the guilt tripping and death threat does not help

Also I don't even think arc is running at the end of confrontation, I think he's just straight up walking
I feel like he would just start b-lining it to Thomas's location that instant if he actually wanted to hurt Thomas or something

ok yeah he seems to be walking

Also the way the "Thomas, come back here" stuff is formatted makes it seem like he knew he messed up and wants to continue the convo

idk though

[noble cedar]

wow, liminal typing paragraphs

[cobalt lotus]

My thinking is that the people are decaying. They all have some sickness that causes them to physically decay, as well as their containment to decay, their loops and their worlds they are trapped in. Idk if someone has already said this, I'm just scrolling down now. Also sorry for the ping but I wanted to get my two cents in.

Holy crap you guys are writing essays geez

Oh it's just liminal lol

But geez man

Hey RGN is there a slides document for this yet?

[woeful wedge]

My goat liminal

The books do make sense I guess

But I wonder what would of happened if Matthew got to read em

Wonder if he would of went cray cray

[spice elbow]

some loops clearly have signs of decay in them

like blocks going black etc

is what i interpret it as

[compact plume]

wait a minute...

[spice elbow]

What

[glacial apex]

-# lore

[brazen igloo]

say on god rn

[spice elbow]

on god

[brazen igloo]

isnt that the whole point of arg

[brazen igloo]

i am joking

I believe loops decayed because the architect did not expect anyone to notice or was simply lousy in his job.

He is always late, and he doesn't consider it a big thing.

[steady anchor]

The loops decayed every time it did not go well

[brazen igloo]

Explain I have stupid

[spice elbow]

everytime a loop went off course the particular world became more and more corrupted(decayed)

[brazen igloo]

Nah I mean literall weird worlds but players on the world thinks this is normal so a player from other world thinks that's weird ngl that would be Hella swag

[brazen igloo]

Sadly truth

[peak vapor]

I liked how they did each world is unique

Especially the world with the swirls for a sky and it being dark instead of light

[woeful wedge]

This explains why serene and xiphon had a messed up world

They became thinking minds but never got sentient to break fully out like Andrew, they just sat with it

Till Andrew interfered with them too

Or the execs decided to give them a funky world to loop with

[spice elbow]

@lethal spire is jacinthes theme just dreiton slowed down or is it some remix?

I keep forgetting how good of a composer c418 is

[lethal spire]

not jacinthes theme

its simply bg music for that particular scene

[spice elbow]

Oh?

Well still

[lethal spire]

its slowed down dreiton yeah

[spice elbow]

Oki

Tyty

[lethal spire]

no worries

[potent herald]

Me realizing my mistake that even though I found this series earlier I never posted

[compact plume]

Pretty sure this thread was made like 2 videos in

[woeful wedge]

The Defarted

[brazen igloo]

😭

[woeful wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124261636723703898/1275861800939814982/benek.gif

[noble cedar]

I find it interesting how RGN made a video about this thread but haven't mentioned anything about the text with Pochhammer symbols i, o, and u

Besides mentioning about the weird language that Matthew David (kargoships28) wrote into his diary before he was presumed dead

[analog topaz]

He was talking about it elsewhere, but we couldn't figure out what it meant

[noble cedar]

I know before he made the video, we've talked about this before but I think it led nowhere

[analog topaz]

Do you have any leads for it?

[noble cedar]

Just thought about it, not thinking RGN would create another video on The Decayed since he also didn't cover content after the video answers

[noble cedar]

And mention other things he may've missed in his previous video like ↑[image]

[novel matrix]

Once the series wraps up I will do an update video

There are several things I didn’t cover in the first one

[novel matrix]

This is one of them, since I could never find an explanation

There are a lot of minor details that I either only mentioned once or skipped

[noble cedar]

Mhm

[novel matrix]

Problem is at this point it’s hard to know what’s important. Once the series finishes I’ll have a much better sense

[noble cedar]

Tru

[noble cedar]

Now kinda interested to see where I get with the missing-letters message with the Pochhammer symbols

[peak vapor]

I thought it finished?

was there a confirmed continuation?

if so

lets goooo

[novel matrix]

I’ve heard it’s not done

[woeful wedge]

Maybe the ending is done but there’s still some extra videos or lore drops

Don’t know the exact term of it but yeah

[woeful wedge]

To filler in some more confirmed info or add more into the mix for speculation

[potent herald]

That's pretty early

But I did found the arg pretty early on tbh

[candid token]

E

[glacial apex]

Ded chat

[analog topaz]

K

Question:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1216521577978396782/1280529287216369686/Screenshot_20240903_100200_YouTube.jpg?ex=66db0c55&is=66d9bad5&hm=7d16e3901f75a3e5f566cf38a9e65ba2de2c64b5cdf367fdef8fe10163ab6399&
Does anyone know what this means

Are these coords in a weird dimensional space?

[compact plume]

I think it's just meant to be ergodic writing

Used primarily in house of leaves but it's basically just trying to represent something (in house of leaves case, a descent into madness) by just using text formatting

[analog topaz]

What does that even mean

Oh

[compact plume]

Also house of leaves is referenced in the series

In one of those days the house of leaves protagonists second name is thrown onto the signs

[candid token]

Oooohh i like it how the words in the book have that meaning.. the authors a genius

[woeful wedge]

the defarted

[woeful wedge]

the prediction is the minecraft movie is the result of the decayed and it cuases a rupture in time

nuking the world

👍

[lethal spire]

yeah so we actually hit up the writers for the minecraft movie and its just a decayed movie

[compact plume]

it's true

[gaunt elk]

the fact there could be actually other sandYcarps in the ARG makes me wonder.

Because in Limbo, sandY enters Experiment #67801236 and well he literally sees himself and another kargo in a loop, so it doesn't stop the possibilities that there could be more sandY's.

[lethal spire]

mm experiments

[noble cedar]

millimeter

[spice elbow]

New community post

[elder roost]

Hello there. Just joined... do I need to know anything important about this discussion?

[analog topaz]

Like what?

[elder roost]

Like... what's the current point of the discussion?...

[analog topaz]

oh uh I suppose we are waiting

you are free to read the previous messages. Almost all messages regarding the Decayed happened here

[elder roost]

Ok... then I need to read all 2.200 messages...

[analog topaz]

lol

[elder roost]

Yeah...

Anyway... doesn't it feel a bit... odd?

The first loop... they go mining, all excited, then reaching a cave, but instead of continuing, they turn around and cut, like they've lost and interest...
Did you already talk about this or what?

[analog topaz]

I don't understand what you mean

[elder roost]

I mean... before the loop breaks

...sandY and... Kargo, right?

[analog topaz]

yeah?

For the first loop, they dug into a cave with lava and decided to get more supplies iirc

2nd loop: sandY freaks out and leaves prematurely

[elder roost]

Ok... but it still feels... odd...

Imma watch it again to be sure

[analog topaz]

alright

[elder roost]

(I come from the long-form video btw...)

[analog topaz]

kunai and/or RGN's?

[elder roost]

RGN's

[elder roost]

Did... yeah... no detail was missed in that explanation video...

[woeful wedge]

Oh awesome

[elder roost]

I was actually asking myself .... how is it related to everything else?

[elder roost]

From ashes fire is struck, from shadow comes light;

[lethal spire]

from shadow comes light

has anyone tried googling it

[elder roost]

LOTR

[lethal spire]

well yea but that doesnt say much

whats the point of the post

[craggy zealot]

Any update?

[elder roost]

Don't ask me...

[analog topaz]

Last update

[elder roost]

True

[spice elbow]

What is the difference between a thinking mind and sentience

Is it like comparing chimpanzees to humans?

Where they aren't truly sentient but can still think for themselves

[elder roost]

Lemme think...

[spice elbow]

Like a chimp can't recognize itself in a mirror irrc

Or some primates can't

But they're still smart enough to make tools etc

[elder roost]

Thinking mind might be just able to do basic thinking... while sentient might be actually smart and also self aware

[spice elbow]

Yeah so what I described

[elder roost]

More less

But in my own words... and you in your own...

[lethal spire]

pretty sure we talked about this earlier

sentient would be full control and/or awareness of their situation

while thinking mind is like off course from their usual track

[elder roost]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!!!!!

@here

https://www.youtube.com/@THELOSTEDD

[compact plume]

The losted 🔥🔥🔥🔥

first the decayed parody let's gooo?

[elder roost]

I'VE FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING!!!

[compact plume]

I assume this is an attempt at a parody unless someone genuinely tried gamejacking with "the losted"

[elder roost]

IDK... let's wait and see...

Wait i know I KNOW

"The server stopped": the last video of the decayed

that's what happened at the end

and with it, these numbers:
32 54 44 24 32 15 23 11 43 13 34 32 15

[compact plume]

don't get your hopes up man, it's not official lmfao

[elder roost]

ik

but let's try and confirm/debunk it

wait a second...

where did the comment go?

[lethal spire]

that channel is not affiliated with decayed in any way

[elder roost]

i've lost the comment

[lethal spire]

because i banned the channel

[elder roost]

?

y?

[lethal spire]

because theyre either parodying decayed or theyre just trying to copy it

[elder roost]

u stupid...

[lethal spire]

no

[elder roost]

luckly i cought it

[lethal spire]

the english is so broken thats so funny

[elder roost]

?

[lethal spire]

for the losted channel

there bugs and bugs and it crashed all the time

[elder roost]

i think it's intentional...

let's just wait and see....

[lethal spire]

what do you mean its intentional i already confirmed its not affiliated at all

[elder roost]

prove it

[elder roost]

not enough of a proof

[analog topaz]

Rule 2 lad. No pinging here or everyone

[elder roost]

sorry, but...

[elder roost]

this?

[lethal spire]

i like this post

[elder roost]

it's meant to be taken as the opposite... pointing us towards what otherwise we wouldn't care about

[lethal spire]

but its just not

its telling the truth

[compact plume]

🔥

[elder roost]

let's just wait and see...

[compact plume]

no

[lethal spire]

what are we waiting to see exactly

[compact plume]

I will wait and NOT see...

[elder roost]

only time will tell

[elder roost]

?

[elder roost]

Y?

[analog topaz]

the losted

[lethal spire]

yeah so we are actually making the losted official

dude 😭

[elder roost]

WHAY?

sorry caps

[lethal spire]

i literally just told you that its not affiliated with decayed in any way

and its either a joke or its a ripoff of decayed

[elder roost]

idk

[lethal spire]

no you do know

im telling you right now

[elder roost]

prove that it can't be.

[lethal spire]

because im saying it isnt??

[elder roost]

no it isn't a valid proof

[lethal spire]

but it is

[elder roost]

no

[compact plume]

this guy might be a conspiracy theorist

[analog topaz]

this is like telling stephen king that his books aren't even horror

[compact plume]

Check his search history

[lethal spire]

how can i prove my legitimacy

hold on im gonna go on the decayed youtube channel and screenshot the show analytics thing

[compact plume]

People have probably actually done that on twitter

There's a lot of those where they just DON'T know who they're talking to

[lethal spire]

is this enough evidence

[compact plume]

nah it's inspect element smh

[lethal spire]

truee

[analog topaz]

bruh this losted channel was made yesterday

no videos no nothing

[lethal spire]

i just spent 10 minutes adding customize channel and manage videos through inspect element

[compact plume]

What if we misunderstood this all along

[lethal spire]

no guys youre misunderstanding

the losted is actually the decayed

[compact plume]

What if they losted their way home and found the decayed community post

[lethal spire]

its just decayed copied the losted

[elder roost]

hahaha... now we're speaking!

[compact plume]

no we're not

[lethal spire]

no we are not

we are typing...

[elder roost]

you are true conspirancy theorists now

[lethal spire]

ok i am debunking

so... decayed and losted doesnt exist

we are all schizophrenics

[compact plume]

architect actually has a tinfoil hat on during the entire series but you don't see it because the government is trying to censor it

[lethal spire]

right yeah

[elder roost]

imma leave you to it... see ya!

[analog topaz]

I need more gamejack comments

[neon stump]

what do you think the sickness is

[minor rain]

idk i feel like the creator saying it is good enough

might be me tho

[elder roost]

has anyone found a (still unlinked*) 5 letter code anywhere?
*that has not been used anywhere else before within this search

note: the 5 letters must be different from each other

[analog topaz]

What is this in reference to?

[elder roost]

I need a key for these numbers

@analog topaz

[lethal spire]

this is not related to decayed

[elder roost]

imma try this route so you don't have to...

[lethal spire]

what

what route

[elder roost]

"the "The losted" deroute"

[lethal spire]

theres no deroute if its not related to decayed in any way

[elder roost]

we don't know until we try...

[lethal spire]

no but we do know

do you understand that im one of the creators for decayed

[elder roost]

weird but ok...

...wait

[lethal spire]

no its not weird 😭

losted isnt related at all

[elder roost]

then what is it?

[lethal spire]

a joke

[elder roost]

. . .

[lethal spire]

its not important anyway

[elder roost]

what a waste

[compact plume]

https://imgur.com/YPtR5Sg

[compact plume]

how did it take you this long to realize

i literally said this the second you posted it

[lethal spire]

losted is literally an attempt at copying decayed

either a joke

or its a gamejack

[elder roost]

ok

sorry

[lethal spire]

its fine

[analog topaz]

It isn't related, but I at least want to see what they are trying to say. It might be a polybius cipher

32 54 44 24 32 15 23 11 43 13 34 32 15

Yeah it is polybius cipher

"MYTIMEHASCOME" on an Alphabet (-J) 5x5 table.

Nah it hasn't. Please gamejack elsewhere.

[elder roost]

I don't know if it is the right key tho...

[analog topaz]

wdym by right key?

[elder roost]

Anyway I've also noticed a pattern of spaces... 2 4 3 4... like if words separated by white saces

[elder roost]

Right table filled

[analog topaz]

MYTIMEHASCOME is My Time Has Come. That seems as right as it can get

[elder roost]

Agree

[noble cedar]

https://youtu.be/2dMHbUhghN8 w/o source identifier

Also, someone already posted a video link of Les Fleurs but thx for the heads up

[brave coral]

oh ._. sorry about that

i just think it needs a bit more investigation since a lot was going on

[noble cedar]

It already had

If you scroll up and read, you'll see

[brave coral]

alright

[elder roost]

I know this is unrelated, but "The losted" now has something... likely to be its own story-line... just so you know...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqG7tbD-R4UYtFzzeknlVmw/community?lb=UgkxEl8Lxu5NEVLKFXWIUiA6OOxMEFRTuMVP

[brave coral]

that German or French quote that The Decayed wrote makes me think that there’s still something out there

[analog topaz]

Ok cool but just so you know that we don't care anymore.

Put this in the other thread

?

That reply goes to another person. The person talking about the decayed gamejack

[brave coral]

yeah, sorry, i’m just not used to this world lol.

[analog topaz]

No worries

[brave coral]

thank you, it’s kinda rare..

[void crater]

yo wtf is this

😭

[compact plume]

its peak...

[lethal spire]

just stop 😭

[elder roost]

Sorry

[compact plume]

(watch him do it again)

[minor rain]

it's definitely his arg

he's tryna self promote

[elder roost]

Anyone interested can open a new discussion... I'm currently not interested in it as much...

[analog topaz]

You already opened a new one

[elder roost]

Imma reopen it then for anyone interested

[lethal spire]

why would anyone be interested its literally just trying to copy the decayed

[analog topaz]

I mean

If it's actually interesting then people will watch it regardless

[lethal spire]

this one really isnt though

[analog topaz]

Yeah, there isn't anything here

[woeful wedge]

hold on this writing might be fire

[elder roost]

?

[vague forge]

I love the decayed a lot but why the hell is someone tryna really associate a copy or parody with the original😭

[compact plume]

That's what a gamejack is

[vague forge]

Yeeah

I don't like gamejacks they're fun to mess with though

[analog topaz]

Originally they thought it was associated, but even after the decayed people told them it was still irrelevant, they kept on talking about it

[compact plume]

Probably because they made it

the chance for them not to have is low

[brave coral]

will the channel continue/upload more? i’m just curious because the description of the final video said “** but for now ** , it’s goodbye”

[lethal spire]

there are a lot of questions unanswered

[brave coral]

uhh, what questions?

[lethal spire]

like what is the sickness and how did it originate

whats the actual point of the concept

whos uploading the videos

prob a bunch more

[brave coral]

yeah, some people think that it’s Matthew sharing about what happened

since he made the description and it was probably him that made the description on the final video

but yeah.

it’s torture. they did nothing to deserve it.

[lethal spire]

the channel bio quotes matthew

les fleurs description being written by matthew doesnt seem logical

[brave coral]

yeah, maybe

[novel matrix]

finally going to catch up on this

I'm 3 videos behind

[novel matrix]

hmm

it still feels like there are some things that aren't explained

I like the ending

I think it's effective

I don't think I quite understand Grenzen

[novel matrix]

is this a walmart

[lethal spire]

yeah

[compact plume]

It's important to the lore trust

[novel matrix]

I am thinking of doing a short update video just to get my audience to this natural breakpoint

I got kinda unlucky with not being able to include this in the last video

Navidson

[compact plume]

https://tenor.com/view/house-of-leaves-navidson-record-danielewski-will-navidson-abyss-gif-14043987164536427697

[novel matrix]

I haven't read it

[compact plume]

Navidson is a reference to house of leaves' "Navidson Record", which is what the story mainly focuses on

Alongside the guy who documented the Navidson record basically just going insane, and the other other person documenting the ramblings of the person documenting the navidson records while also slowly going insane

it's goofy

[novel matrix]

oh yeah, I knew it was a reference

but thanks for clarifying it more specifically

[compact plume]

ah

[novel matrix]

that's why it's hard is I haven't read it

it seems like a pretty complex book from what I can tell

[lethal spire]

i will probably be making ost channel soon

saw ppl request it

[compact plume]

It is

its ergodic writing too so the text formatting is all over the place

[brave coral]

LESS GOO

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-19354605

[lethal spire]

and the end

of the arg

[lethal spire]

the description quotes andrew

meaning its not andrew uploading them

i doubt its matthew either

[brave coral]

sorry lol..

ᵃʳᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᵃˡʳⁱᵍʰᵗ

[lethal spire]

besides why would andrew or matthew be uploading onto "the decayed" youtube channel

[brave coral]

you have a point

sorry

sorry

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

[lethal spire]

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxUcnbUQj4JFLdlVisNAJooTlbwJdjGQPo

[sleek jungle]

lesgooo

[lethal spire]

few questions answered in comments too

[sleek jungle]

seems as if its gonna take a while for another post.

[lethal spire]

workload is high im just taking a break currently

itll start up eventually

[sleek jungle]

wait...

really?

[lethal spire]

yea ill prob get to it next week

[sleek jungle]

oh, no joke?

[compact plume]

its literally stated in the community post

[lethal spire]

school is like the only hinderance

freetime does a lot

[sleek jungle]

yeah. understandable.

like. actually no joke, You are gonna get it started next week?

[lethal spire]

probably

i have next week off so

[sleek jungle]

uh huh. dam.

[craggy zealot]

Ohh.....

[brave coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[novel matrix]

This is probably an over-analysis, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case - is it meaning ful that in "one of those days" there are a few shots where blocks are popping into existence in the early frames?

I'm having a difficult time interpreting this video in general

It happens after the events of Realite

we know this because the journal takes about how Matthew has one more school year after this before college

but in "one of those days," they're a few months away from college

...which is weird, because in the journal, Matthew gets ill and goes insane well before the "one of those days" conversation could happen

[lethal spire]

not really this is just chunks loading

[lethal spire]

the diary mentions he has one more school year but the diary takes place in the summer

so it would be before the last school year started

one of those days wouldnt make sense if it took place after realite unless its supposed to be a memory in which things can be misremembered

[novel matrix]

Yeah ok, I see how that makes sense now

I was confused by the phrasing

[novel matrix]

I think my favorite music track in the whole series is the final one that plays when Jacinthe appears

[lethal spire]

minecraft ost to the rescue

[novel matrix]

oh haha I didn't even realize

I'm actually not that knowledgeable when it comes to minecraft music

the last episode is very good. I found myself tearing up a little bit

[lethal spire]

seems to have that effect on ppl

[lethal spire]

couple of screenshots

[sleek jungle]

these look great for soundtrack covers.

yk?

for example

[celest timber]

wait what I thought les fleurs was the end end

[craggy zealot]

Yeah

[brave coral]

just saying, you did a really good job making this ARG, it’s probably gonna remain one of the best ones yet, especially the final video, i definently did not cry a single bit watching it .__.

[lethal spire]

heh

youll be surprised

[brave coral]

u ok??

[lethal spire]

yeah

ost channel should be up pretty soon

[brave coral]

yay :3 i really appreciate the hard work that people put into making this arg, they did an amazing job

[sleek jungle]

nice!

[sleek jungle]

ehm, i went through all the vids again. and counted 25 soundtracks.

i hope thats accurate tho.

[lethal spire]

wat

25

i only have 21

[sleek jungle]

i mean

[lethal spire]

is that including repeating tracks

[sleek jungle]

thats close?!

i guess so

[lethal spire]

cuz some tracks play across multiple episodes

like the limbo track

[sleek jungle]

i wouldnt count that one as the other 4. maybe i heard minecraft ost or something.

[lethal spire]

the only mc ost i have included are the ones from les fleurs

[sleek jungle]

or, the realite soundtrack...

[lethal spire]

and also the variants of haggstrom in the earlier episodes

not the original

[sleek jungle]

oh yes, definitely.

[lethal spire]

youtube kinda sucks with daily uploads so ill have to spread out the uploads over 3 days

first batch will have the ost up until exec footage - defiant

[sleek jungle]

mhm...!

When are you planning to release them?

[lethal spire]

i was considering either releasing them whenever possible or waiting until i have every track on the channel

so if i did them in batches they would release over the span of the 3 days

[sleek jungle]

i do have a weird suggestion. upload all of em, unlist them and when there all uploaded, unlist all of em. and there.

itll be like they were released at the same time.

[lethal spire]

it doesnt say that they were uploaded at the same time however

though they do all appear at the same time

[sleek jungle]

yeah.

[lethal spire]

might do that dunno

[sleek jungle]

yea, thats why i suggested... yk?

im assuming the song in the purple hallways will literally be "Limbo"

simple as that

[lethal spire]

nope

[sleek jungle]

dam

[lethal spire]

some tracks do have their own names

[lethal spire]

ok well the first batch has been uploaded now

i figure i'll share the ost channel here before i make a post on the main channel about it

https://www.youtube.com/@THEDECAYEDOST

only has the tracks up until exec footage - defiant currently

[sleek jungle]

oh cool!!!

already ?!! dam

[sleek jungle]

yk, i think its crazy how people already want dis to be on spotify...

only if... 🥲

[compact plume]

why do these comments show up whenever any Minecraft series gets popular

[lethal spire]

they want job experience so that they can get whatever job they want

[compact plume]

real

[sleek jungle]

isnt that basically jst you?

[compact plume]

no

[sleek jungle]

mhm, yep, definitely.

[novel matrix]

I think it's funny how Architect's main character trait is incompetence

[brave coral]

yeah

[sleek jungle]

is tomorrow the day when the next batch of soundtracks get uploaded to the decayed ost channel?

[lethal spire]

hopefully

[lethal spire]

itll be on thursday

[novel matrix]

I think there's an interesting connection. Jacinthe is the French word for the Hyacinthe flower

The Hyacinthe has a place in Greek mythology. A man named Hyacinthus was the lover of Apollo, but he was killed by the jealousy of Zephyrus. Instead of letting Hyacinthus go to meet Hades in the underworld, Apollo turned Hyacinthus into a flower so that his beauty could be preserved

This is very similar to what Jacinthe does. Each flower in The Garden represents a soul trapped in the concept, unable to be free to die and go to the afterlife

[noble cedar]

Gtk

I thought of Jacinthe as a fruit more than a flower

[novel matrix]

I lean towards the idea that "jacinthe" is intended to be interpreted as a French word

after all, the title of the video is in French

[noble cedar]

After all, I see the majority of the names and terms used in The Decayed ARG consist of either the French or German language

Ok

[lethal spire]

flower symbolism is used a bit in the series

fun details to find

[latent knot]

Okay I‘m new to this server. What words could be German?

I am German, so maybe I can help? Are there any problems with understanding?

[novel matrix]

there are a few things in descriptions, but we found that they were poems that already existed

then a few places have German names, like Abgrund

[latent knot]

Oh Abgrund is like Abyss

[latent knot]

Alright, I just wanted to say, if you need German translation, I can help

[novel matrix]

thank you, I will let you know if we missed something

[lethal spire]

next batch of ost is going up rn

[rapid brook]

while most vessels are represented by flowers SandY was represented as the oak tree i assume, does the stage of flora represent consciousness?

as in vessels are flowers
sentient beings are trees
and thinking beings are.. idk

[lethal spire]

the tree represents the concept

mentioned in les fleurs by jacinthe

[rapid brook]

oh

what happened to David btw

[lethal spire]

who is david

[rapid brook]

we didn't learn anything about him or his sickness

[rapid brook]

the guy who wrote the diary

[lethal spire]

thats matthew

aka kargosh1pz

[rapid brook]

oh yea Matthew David mb

[lethal spire]

well hes in the concept

the sickness hasnt been explained

[rapid brook]

how did Thomas become exec05 though

while others become vessel

[lethal spire]

execs are workers so theyre hired

[novel matrix]

Here are the references I've found:

• Purple flowers holding the cameras, seen in multiple videos
• Flower painting in 03 limbo guides Andrew to edge of world
• Poppies replaced with purple flowers in Andrew's inventory in 04 meeting
• Flowers on walls in 06 meeting
• Flower painting in 09 disposal
• Real life picture of flowers in initial image sequence of 20 les fleurs
• Jacinthe = Hyacinthe = Flower
• Flowers in The Garden

[analog topaz]

Has anyone seen any similarities with the flowers that surrounded the first tree in I think abgrund?

The disposal area

[lethal spire]

there are some more that havent really been considered yet but these are nice catches

[novel matrix]

I have seen some smaller details like flowers in pots

if those are meaningful I can find those too

[lethal spire]

the mushroom on the bookshelf in les fleurs is not important but some other flowers in pots may be

[novel matrix]

ok, good to know. I'll go through it again and record them

[lethal spire]

i wonder if the abyss is understood

it feels like a topic that would be skimmed over

[rapid brook]

are the vessels actual players or just ai?

[lethal spire]

well they become sentient

[rapid brook]

or are the players dead from the disease and they programmed the ai to behave as per their memory

[lethal spire]

they were explained to be like these lifeless bodies

with the players' souls taking over them

[rapid brook]

what's the difference between the blue and red keepers

[lethal spire]

how do you make purple

theres not really any difference

its just that theyre split in 2 quadrants the sides being red and blue bc of purple

[rapid brook]

yea but why purple?

[lethal spire]

jacinthe

[rapid brook]

ohh

[lethal spire]

the ost videos may help with understanding locations n stuff btw

like their names

[latent knot]

What‘s the problems with the names?

[novel matrix]

Ok, here's an updated list of flower references I've found:
01 weird minecraft bugs (bug report #1)

• Poppies, dandelions, oxeye daisies, peonies outside house
• Four Poppies in Andrew's inventory, transferred to Misc chest at 01:19

03 limbo

• 01:00 Flower painting guides Andrew to edge of world
• 01:51 Flowers from painting are real
• 04:09 Experiment has same flowers from main world
• 06:18 first (?) clear shot of camera in flowers
• 07:32 EXPERIMENT #00008389 (Xiphoid/Serene) does NOT have flowers, except for Camera
• 09:26 Unstable Experiment has no flowers
• 09:48 Real House gone in final image, revealing flowers behind it

04 meeting

• Flowers in overworld remain, including edge flowers (0:44)
• 01:44 confirmed that Xiphoid’s world has no landscape flowers
• 06:30 Poppies replaced with purple flowers in Andrew's inventory

06 Realite

• 01:16 flower designs on tiles

08 Exec footage - defiant

• 00:50 dyes in terminal, made from flowers (this is a stretch)
• 02:26 Exec_13 goes to get coffee, which is a flowering plant
• 02:36 Flowers in terminal connect to cameras
• 07:49 exec_09 sees lone purple flower in The Real House

09 disposal

• 00:08 several flowers in courtyard: purple flower, oxeye daisy, blue orchid
• 01:51 painting of purple flower by edge of world
• 02:00 Blue orchid in pot
• 02:14 In fake Real House room, blue orchid and oxeye daisy in pots
• 02:50 painting has purple flower (?)
• 03:46 pot with blue orchid in distance

10 reunion

• 16:25 Flowers remain in main world as expected

13 lifeless

• 05:27 bright purple flower in basement of decayed Real House

15 Loss of Control

• 02:04 Architect’s symbol is a flower (?)
• 04:43 Purple flowers, oxeye daisies, and blue orchids in Grenzen castle courtyard

19 one of those days

• 01:02 Walmart logo looks like a flowers (?)
• 01:45 Peonies, poppies, dandelion by house
• 02:12 Another view of poppy

20 les fleurs

• 00:00 Title of video
• 00:03 Distorted image of irl purple flower
• 00:04 Image of Disposal courtyard, with purple flowers, blue orchids, and oxeye daisies (recolored)
• 02:40 Matthew’s Grenzen castle also has purple flowers, oxeye daisies, blue orchids in courtyard
• 07:23 The Garden has many flowers: purple flowers, allium, azure bluet, blue orchids, dandelions, oxeye daisies, poppies, tulips (orange, pink, red, white)
• 21:01 Jacinthe is the French word for Hyacinthe, a purple flower. Her skin has purple flowers.

Channel Description

• "like a flower / that never bloomed"

The main thing I notice is that there are a lot of blue orchids and oxeye daisies. Their appearance in the fake Real House in 09 disposal perhaps suggests that blue orchid represents Andrew and Oxeye Daisy is Matthew?

Tbh, I didn't really get much more than that in terms of interpretations

[elder roost]

I think that the answer to all of this is/is related to flowers.

[compact plume]

The entirety of the decayed is a bee movie sequel

Bees and pollen are synonymous and there are a lot of flowers

this is definitive proof

[elder roost]

Agree

[novel matrix]

Couldn’t find a connection. Script was recorded without it

If something cool comes up with this, I can add it to the video during editing

[novel matrix]

Has anyone replicated the Jacinthe skin?

[lethal spire]

i wanted to make the skins public one way or another

i could probably give it out

[brave coral]

https://tenor.com/view/eepy-cat-kitten-cat-gif-16624793949582456154

cute kitty

[novel matrix]

Matthew David = MD

"MD" sounds like "empty" when you say it out loud

nice little touch

[elder roost]

True

[brave coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-sleep-kitten-cute-gif-26094031

[brave coral]

just a little kitty :<

[spice elbow]

i dont rly see it tbh

em dee

maybe my pronounciation just sucks though

[novel matrix]

it's not the same but it's remarkably close

[analog topaz]

MD is the abbreviation for Maryland. 😳 The connections are everywhere.

[compact plume]

MD also means medicine. This obviously means that the entirety of the decayed is actually all in le head and at the end of the series sandy will wake up from a coma irl

[elder roost]

Probably

[brave coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-19822793

[brave coral]

you’re right..

[golden fulcrum]

Yeah ..

[brave coral]

like.. we’re not supposed to just die out like this, to just be left alone, without a single soul in sight. this isn’t our destiny, this isn’t how we’re supposed to stay like, but now, we’re all just left with one single thought: this is who we are now, we will never change

[latent knot]

I just typed this into the Google Translator and put it on „recognise language“. When I translate that gibberish into German, it says „Abonnieren“ which would mean „subscribing“

Idk if this is the solution though, doesn’t seem like it would be the solution (in my opinion)

[brave coral]

but.. are you ok

[novel matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcWeQhXjfs

I couldn't quite put together a cohesive interpretation for this series, but I did mention a few of the things I noticed

Hopefully, people here will be able to fill in the gaps that I missed

[sleek jungle]

DUDE!!!

you didnt discuss the community posts on the decayeds channel!!!😥

or did you...?

retro, did you even bother to look at the community posts...?

[brave coral]

at least he worked hard on the video ;-;

[sleek jungle]

yeah!!! but like... community posts...yk?

[brave coral]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-cute-kitten-cat-gif-6917710866304482943

oof

its just a small lil oopsie

[sleek jungle]

yeah...😔

[novel matrix]

aren't the community posts out of character

[sleek jungle]

oh well...

uhm.

i mean, maybe!! you couldve said that the project is on a break!!🙂

[novel matrix]

so there's really no reason for me to bring them in, as they aren't a part of the story

the conversation is for anyone to join

you don't have to be invited

[brave coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-cat-gif-26154702

[sleek jungle]

oh but like... the project probably isnt over Yet!!!

[woeful wedge]

They posted the ost channel

Oh my Lordy lord.

Yes.

[sleek jungle]

yeah

ive known for 10 days.

[lethal spire]

yea the series isnt over yet

[sleek jungle]

but like... yk??!!!

RIGHT??

[lethal spire]

very good part 2 tho

[brave coral]

wait, it isn’t?????1?1?1?1?1?1?

[woeful wedge]

It appears it isn’t

[novel matrix]

thank you! such an awesome series

[brave coral]

yeh

[lethal spire]

tyty

[sleek jungle]

yeah RGN!!! you coulda at least said something like the project isnt over yet...

[novel matrix]

fine fine, I'll update the description

[sleek jungle]

sorry.

[novel matrix]

my mistake

[lethal spire]

i mentioned uploads may be a bit slower cuz its a solo project now

plus im on a break rn to focus on school

[sleek jungle]

thats gotta suck.

[brave coral]

it definently feels like it’s based on real life too..

[woeful wedge]

Just tie it into the Minecraft movie

Right now

And I.. am Andrew.

[sleek jungle]

i wonder if the series is gonna start as a fever dream.

[lethal spire]

yeah so actually i got some contacts and the first half of the minecraft movie is going to be the decayed

[novel matrix]

I wish I could have come up with an interpretation that's completely cohesive, but unfortunately I just couldn't quite do it

there's almost certainly stuff there I missed

[lethal spire]

thats understandable

a lot of things are messy but i assure u there will be more answers in the future

[novel matrix]

the best I could do is give people the tools to get them started themselves

[woeful wedge]

I do believe the series does have a sort of “fill in your own theory” basis to it aswell

While chucking in some confirms.

[lethal spire]

yeah this

interpretations are fun

[novel matrix]

one way I know it's a good series is that the more I rewatched, the more I noticed

[woeful wedge]

One of those days was a great video and it did set my interpretations on some IRL issues many can relate which I like

[sleek jungle]

wait, you had actual friends to work on this project?

[brave coral]

but this series represents real life perfectly lol, the emptiness, the hopelessness.. it’s all.. so real..

oopsies

[lethal spire]

yeah

[sleek jungle]

oh cool!! was it one friend? or multiple of em?

[lethal spire]

so it was one friend i was making like the entire series with but he left the project recently

we had a couple other friends to fill in as actors sometimes

[brave coral]

hopefully you’re doing well

[lethal spire]

its a very philosophical series

[woeful wedge]

Just loaded up ur part 2 on the big TV right now with some food, this finna be a great watch

[sleek jungle]

did you build most of the sets yourself?

[lethal spire]

big questions that nobody can reaaally answer

[lethal spire]

yep

[novel matrix]

I hope you enjoy it

before I release, I always watch my video on a big TV at least once

[woeful wedge]

Awesome

[pseudo hill]

Lmfto same here

W series ngl

[lethal spire]

theres been a lot of support which i appreciate

[woeful wedge]

This writing is fire breh

[lethal spire]

its fun to work on and its fun seeing people enjoy it

[woeful wedge]

Ooo I see RGN has found the House Of Leaves references

On the videos

[novel matrix]

I own the book but I haven't read it

Maybe this will motivate me to finally do it

honestly, it's probably a prerequisite to understanding The Decayed as a whole

[sleek jungle]

dont you think its crazy that people already want the ost to be on stuff like soundcloud and spotify

[woeful wedge]

Can’t recall it fully but you can sort of see some of the inspired flavour text in the diaries of Matthew (can’t recall the exact names it’s been a while)

[lethal spire]

i was considering putting it on spotify but that costs money

[woeful wedge]

Such as the twisted and garbled writing

It probably is a good read to accommodate the decayed especially though

[sleek jungle]

yea, thats what i was saying. but i feel like your rich... js saying.

but i think soundcloud would do good!

i dont know a lot about soundcloud, since i mostly use spotify a lot...

[novel matrix]

huh that's a good point - I hadn't even thought that the journals were house of leaves inspired

but I totally see it now

[lethal spire]

also

i just wanna confirm one thing cuz ive noticed its been mentioned a few times

in the diary there are two errors one being the year

the one mention of 2023 is unintentional was meant to be 2017

and the bu i i wi or whatever was supposed to say "but i dont think i will"

both of those wouldnt have made any sense without any clarification so i felt like i should mention it

[novel matrix]

ah

that's helpful

yeah those were the two things I found most confusing

[lethal spire]

yea we love human error lmao

[pseudo hill]

Lmfto

Very nice series :3

[woeful wedge]

Great series

[cinder summit]

the scene that seems like it’s supposed to be in the real world seems like something Jacinthe could have been a part in making because of her attachment to the memory of the vessels. especially since only andrew and matthew were in that memory. I don’t think it seems incredibly far fetched to say that players can take real-life memories in the form of scenes like that into minecraft once they succumb to the illness

because we have already seen real life memories being recorded post-illness through M’s journal entries

but i do think Jacinthe can find the memories that they bring with them and possibly recreate them in this realm, because she certainly has a large team capable of it

[spice elbow]

if i may ask

who did you get to voice jacinthe

[novel matrix]

I just hired a voice actor

[spice elbow]

oh

on like fiverr?

its fairly accurate to what i imagined

anyway my theory is that jacinthe is the only "real" person here

in the sense that

shes alive in the real world

and keepers are ai's

that went out of control

[cinder summit]

its been a bit since i watched the first video how was thomas able to become an exec again

[cinder summit]

The red keepers, architect especially, do seem to be reminiscent of that HAL 9000 from 2001 malevolent ai type thing, I totally see where you’re coming from

https://tenor.com/view/packers-hello-gif-27108787

[pseudo hill]

Signing some contract probably
(I don’t remember 100%, but it’s implied in the conversation between him and the red guy)

[spice elbow]

it only makes sense as well

how else would andrew eliminate arc'

he cant be a real person

[pseudo hill]

I need to rewatch it ngl

[compact plume]

andrew can secretly beat Goku on all powerscale metrics but the government doesn't want you to know that

[cinder summit]

“reality” is a big theme in the decayed in general, it really plays with the idea of what makes us worthy of the title of “being real”. do we have to exist in the real world? or do we just have to make a difference and just have to believe we are real

[pseudo hill]

I think the keepers aren’t really ai
Something like execs directly under jacinthe somehow

[cinder summit]

what constitutes true consciousness?

[pseudo hill]

Just more perms

[spice elbow]

unironically he did destroy the concept which is a multiverse

could be argued he does actually beat goku

[pseudo hill]

Yeah, I’d say that too tbh
Some Parts are very symbolic and stuff
Something more like „what actually is free will” for me personally

[cinder summit]

Jacinthe seems very otherworldly in general actually, I don’t know if I subscribe to the idea that she ever really existed in the “real” world, because i doubt someone from reality would have as much power over the construct that she does. Jacinthe seems more like a metaphor for grief and the attachment to those who have been torn away from you

[lethal spire]

i want to point towards the 2nd newest community post on the channel

specifically the last line

[cinder summit]

and she just gains a form in this way

[spice elbow]

what if WE ARE in a loop similar to the decayed

[compact plume]

There's a secret video on the channel that got deleted due to pressure of higher figures, but it actually shows a 40 minute workout montage sandy did right before talking to arc

[spice elbow]

just replaying our entire lives

instead of a short part of it

[cinder summit]

reincarnation is a popular belief for a reason i suppose

[pseudo hill]

Something Like a small spoiler I assume???

[spice elbow]

yeah i suppose tthat could be it

the owner of the channel COULD be one of the other keepers

doesn't have to be architect

it could be that jacinthe made the AIS be splits of her personality is my theory

blue ones are good red ones are rogue

what even IS the real house

[compact plume]

I yapped about a whole theory here about like 9 decades ago where the idea is that the entire channel is basically just a setup by the blue guys (starting from instigator (aka the name)) as well as author from the red fellas because architect was being incredibly cringe and they weren't a fan

[spice elbow]

we should not think of it ias a part of minecraft imo

[pseudo hill]

I’d say more like the blue ones are the calm/controlled ones and the red are more forceful and aggressive but idk

[spice elbow]

but rather a story that uses minecraft as a medium

[compact plume]

Pretty sure it's both

[pseudo hill]

What if it’s just dementia home

/hj

[spice elbow]

im not exactly sure why jacinthe would make red ones aggressive ttho

hence my theory on them going rogue

[cinder summit]

my first guess is that its another house of leaves reference because the house is a living being in the story iirc

[spice elbow]

instead of being designed in this way

[pseudo hill]

Yeah but what if they’re based on people like everyone else (except maybe jacinthe)

[spice elbow]

could it have some bilbical meaning even

as in jacinthe represents yahweh

and the keepers represent elder angels

maybe im stretching though]

[pseudo hill]

Maybe

[spice elbow]

didnt jesus have 8 desciples?

opr was it 13

sorry im not a christian

[pseudo hill]

No clue

[spice elbow]

12

[pseudo hill]

Probably not 13 because it’s unlucky number

[spice elbow]

so not it

there is 7 archangels

BUTT

lucifer used to be an archangel iirc

[compact plume]

As someone whose worked on like every Minecraft webseries under the sun, I can tell you for a fact that half of this does not cross our minds even for a little bit

[spice elbow]

thats why its better

[spice elbow]

theory on that

one of the angels went rogue

and influenced some others

hence them being "red"

which is comonnly associated with being evil

the blue ones are unaffected

and they keep the balance

the garden is heaven

[pseudo hill]

Yeah because those are often mostly blind guesses

[spice elbow]

or rather a representation of it

the abyss is hell

the loops are the purgatory

[lethal spire]

it was mentioned the abyss has layers

[spice elbow]

just like hell

in many interpretations

im not really sure how jumping from it would bring you to heaven

maybe them going through hell was the test to see if they were worthy?

as far as im aware sandy is the first one to make it alongside matthew and thomas

though thomas was probably aware of its existence

or andrew was in a coma

[compact plume]

I feel like the "the abyss is hell" theory is a stretch for this reason alone

To me personally, it makes more sense to see it as the layers all sort of providing to each other in some way

So the garden houses all the souls in the first place, abgrund is most likely world terraforming shenanigans, grenzen is what the concept uses to read memories and whatnot that way they can be translated over into the loops and stuff

[compact plume]

now this is the best possible outcome for the story

every story gets improved by this

remember, if you ever try to make something please add this in at the end

it will improve it tenfold and Pyrocinical will make a 9 hour long video on it

[spice elbow]

it could be that yeah

that it becomes more and more fleshed out tghe higher on the hierarchy you go

the garden is the foundation

each subsequent layer builds upon it

I'm just glad it TD didn't take the mark101 route of becoming an intergalactic story about saving the universe

I do like mark101 tho

[lethal spire]

it nearly got there

borderline

[spice elbow]

Thank God it didnt

[lethal spire]

id say its more focused on the characters tho

[uncut root]

so is this officially over

[spice elbow]

Oh yeah defo

[lethal spire]

nah

mores coming

[pseudo hill]

Yeah probably

[spice elbow]

It loops around again

Bigger loop within a bigger experiment

[lethal spire]

ill say that whats coming is still part of "season 1" or whatever

[uncut root]

yay!

[lethal spire]

but there wont be more seasons

[uncut root]

thats fine, i just want some more, tie up a few threads
like that other person said, better to not go the mark101 route

[pseudo hill]

Ok genuine question:
Is the mysterious illness and depression being kinda similar intentional?

[lethal spire]

more things to ponder

[pseudo hill]

Fair I guess

No clue how I didn’t notice it (the similarities) earlier TwT

[analog topaz]

I'm adding in a deus ex machina

[compact plume]

I'm pausing my overly long schizo theory typing to tell you that there quite literally is no Deus ex machina in TBoTV

anyway

[analog topaz]

Then I'll edit TBoTV to include that

[compact plume]

fair enough

[analog topaz]

Be warned

[compact plume]

can't do anything about that one

[uncut root]

wait is mark101 the one i was thinking of

mark101 is the one with the obsidian sigil and sand obsession right

[compact plume]

No

That's andrewgames lmao

[analog topaz]

Mark101 was never that though. And decayed already started off sci fi

[pseudo hill]

No thats andrewgames722 i think

[uncut root]

oh wait mark101 was the brians block engine one?

[compact plume]

what

no

[analog topaz]

???

[compact plume]

What even is that