irl-skateboarding-chat

[mortal dragon]

i think thats something different in america

[wet cairn]

What’s different?

[mortal dragon]

mone

im going to sleep gn

[rustic bough]

This guy is a beast at it
https://youtu.be/gMJTW9_H9XI

[stiff raptor]

regular no-name longboard trucks (single kingpin)

[polar shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008856990539333655/1012394782263361737/Screenshot_20220825-191233_Chrome.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008856990539333655/1012394782653423626/SmartSelect_20220825-191358_Chrome.jpg

Mwehehehe

[rustic bough]

Wait, by regular longboard trucks, you mean kingpin in or kingpin out?

[rustic bough]

NICE!!!

[mortal dragon]

looks dope man

[stiff raptor]

In.

@random epoch No selling in this server.

[stiff raptor]

Dope!

[rustic bough]

What's the board brand/size? I know you mentioned it in the past but I can't seem to find it now

[stiff raptor]

Golden Beach

[noble current]

What a cool deck. 😄

[rustic bough]

Looks so similar to my pintail, but when I put those same 9balls on mine I forgot they weren't offset and grippy like my previous ones. Ended up on a turn going too fast, slipped out unexpectedly and ate it lol

[uneven panther]

Yall know some really good decks

[polar shadow]

Ehhhh....

About that...

@stiff raptor my board came cracked

And the second i got on it it also cracked some more

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008856990539333655/1012697624761073755/20220826_151810.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008856990539333655/1012697624488460339/20220826_151822.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008856990539333655/1012697624056442890/20220826_151832.jpg

Can I issue a refund? Or maybe get another one for free??

God dammit this sucks

[stiff raptor]

Depending on where you bought it, you definitely should check.

[polar shadow]

Amazon saudi Arabia, there's 2 boards still in stock

Also if I ask on Amazon I can get it replaced, not get a new one

Which is sad cuz I wanted to get two boards lol

A guy in the reviews said he got a second free board because his grip tape wasn't on properly

How come he gets a second board and I need to trade in my broken one

[stiff raptor]

I would give it a try. I’m so sorry that happened!

[polar shadow]

Yeah, it sucks

So you don't think I can contact sector9 immediately? @stiff raptor

Cut the middle man

[stiff raptor]

They’d probably tell you to contact Amazon.

[polar shadow]

Yikes

Ight thanks again dude

Really appreciate the help

[mortal dragon]

enjoi or chocolate

or toy machine

[stuck ore]

How tight should my wheels be? I'm wiggling my wheel around and there feels like a lot of wiggling

[noble current]

That's too loose.

You don't want a ton of play if you try to wiggle the wheels. You're going to wear out your bearings really quickly if the wheels aren't tight enough.

[stuck ore]

Yeah, thought that might be an issue

How tight would be too tight?

[noble current]

I've heard different opinions on it. Some manufacturers say to tighten the wheels all the way down. Spinning the wheels while the board is upright doesn't really tell you how the wheels will roll with your weight on them.

But if you go too tight, I've seen people damage their bearings that way.

You don't want to press your tool all the way into the side of the bearing, or you might bend the shield.

I usually tighten them just enough that there's no wiggle.

[stuck ore]

Ah right, thank you

I've tightened mine to the point where there's a really small amount of wiggle

Like a miniscule bit

I'll probably buy some new bearings soon anyways. Been wanting to for a while, plus I feel like one of my wheels sound pretty dodgy

[wet cairn]

Avoid

They’re all probably ancient stock

And stored without climate control pre-assembled

[polar shadow]

Definitely

The heat here is melting hot

No wonder why it came broken

What do you suggest I should do then? @wet cairn

Sorry for my language

[wet cairn]

It’s a tough one for you. Best bet is to try and find a local skate shop/chain around SA and see if they have what you want.

@polar shadow LocoSonix and Siteen Street are two potential options I’m seeing.

They might have better controlled inventory that they can ship within country.

[polar shadow]

Oh sure sure let me buy my 44 dollars skateboard from locosonix for 195 dollars

No problem

[noble current]

A lot of places will have clearance sales a few times a year to make room for newer decks and the like. You might luck out.

[polar shadow]

@5NRLX#5654 locosonix sells vans for DOUBLE the original price

[polar shadow]

This isn't the case here, its the only shop in the whole country

They control the prices

Their cheapest complete board is 550 SAR

[noble current]

Ah, sorry.

Dang. Those really are pricey.

Is there like... a Facebook Marketplace kind of thing?

https://www.desertcart.com.sa has some cheaper stuff, but I have no idea what most of those boards are.

I kind of want this, just for the graphic 😄 https://www.desertcart.com.sa/products/135387072

Still pricy, but I love Landyachtz longboards and cruisers like this one: https://locosonix.com/collections/clearance/products/ly-longboard-atv-x-ditch-life-dark-wave-31

[rustic bough]

I absolutely love my dinghy! And it's a great step up in size for a penny board. I take mine with me everywhere

[noble current]

Yeah! I have a dinghy blunt, and I absolutely love it.

I wish their surfskate was better, or I'd have one of those, too. It's very pretty and comfortable, but I find the turning a bit too weird. Holding out for a Carver.

[rustic bough]

Oh yeah! I had gotten a waterborne adapter, but it was a bit too twitchy on the dinghy. So I found their schooner board which is just a little bigger, got some Paris street trucks and put the adapter on that. Lots of fun

Their version of the surf skate just doesn't seem like it's got enough turning radius or rebound to make it snappy. But I've been thinking about getting their front surf truck, putting higher rebound bushing on it and seeing how it does as a long distance pump truck

[noble current]

That sounds like a blast.

[noble current]

Yeah, it just never feels right to me. I expect more carve and can never seem to get it. Not like some of the other makes out there.

[rustic bough]

It definitely doesn't seem to have that surfing cutback motion it needs. I haven't tried a carver out yet but I'd like to one day. I just like the idea of a the waterborne using a bushing instead of a spring that breaks eventually . And the amount of lean you get with their rail adapter is nuts, you really feel the tight carve in a pocket

[noble current]

That sounds amazing. I might have to look into that.

[hazy marten]

I'd be posting about my skate progress, but i got covid lol

[hazy marten]

Once im feeling better ill continue practicing pushing, kick turns, and all the other basics

[mortal dragon]

ballin

[fluid pivot]

dawg stationary manual is so hard lmao

I've been trying to do it for longer than 4 seconds all day

Slowly getting there but jeez

[rustic bough]

A stationary wheelie on a bike is harder than moving as well. It's the motion that helps

[near geyser]

ok i havent skated in a while and I wanna get back into it, should I start where i left off or do i pick everything back up

Im thinking i should pick up everything but im not too sure

[fluid pivot]

I would try to start with basics again just to make sure you still got it

because like I'm in the same boat and I forgot a lot of the muscle memory

[modest path]

trucks are so expensive buy i gotta buy good quality

is thunder alr?

you also buy 147mm for a 8 inch right?

[noble current]

I have friends who swear by Thunder. I'm still rocking my Indy's though.

[modest path]

idk theyre like the same thing anyway

[noble current]

Depends on the trucks! Whatever their chart on their website says.

[noble current]

Yeah, it's what you're comfortable with. Some are a little lighter, some feel more responsive... When in doubt, ask your skate shop!

[modest path]

only skate shop i got bro is zummiez 💀

zummiez is expenisive

[noble current]

Ahhh, yeah. But you can text chat with other skate shops, too. I ask my local questions all the freaking time over their chat feature on their site, or via Twitter.

They're probably sick of me, lol

[near geyser]

love indes for the quality but buying them online is expensive. i managed to get what would’ve been £70-80 indes for £50

[modest path]

so i should buy them in store?

[near geyser]

if you can yes

[modest path]

all i got is zummiez i wish i had a local i could support

[noble current]

I just meant if you find an authentic skate shop online, you can ask them. 🙂

[prime copper]

Idk if anyone is able to help me out with this, but I saw some guy skating downtown and he had this deck that was a light pink with a yellow star near the truck and then white graffiti looking writing. Does anyone here know what deck that could be? It looked sick but I can’t find anything online

[timber remnant]

Do you think its possible to put 7.75 trucks on an 8.00in deck

[clear citrus]

I think you can yes, but maybe it feels weird

[modest path]

i was thinking of doing that as well

you can but its better to buy newer ones

the fitting would just be off

bro im thinking of buying half cabs or nyjahs next my blazers have 0 cushioning

like i bought them as a complete beginner but now im doing stairsets and grinds

[rustic bough]

You might even like the feel. It's close to matching but just a tad small. Easier to do flip tricks with but it might be a little more twitchy. Always fun to experiment with

[noble current]

Worst case, you don't like it and you have to get new trucks.

Building a box full of older parts is like a right of passage. 😄

[prime copper]

You can do whatever you want, it’s really all preference, however you’ll probably deal with a lot more wheel bite and won’t be able to do any primo stuff. No harm in experimenting

[light sun]

The first skate game was an L the rest are W

[ebon anvil]

Are y’all trolling with the longboards?

[polar shadow]

There is haraj.com

It does have some good stuff

A lot of trash but you can find good boards

https://haraj.com.sa/1199201058/skateboard/

[rustic bough]

?

[rustic bough]

That's a nice looking setup. A little age on it but still looks like it's got some use left in it. Especially if you're looking for a starter to learn on

[rustic bough]

I'm stoked! I just found out I can bring my board on a cruise ship! I'm just prohibited from skating it on the ship lol

[noble current]

That's awesome! A skate spot in every port?

[rustic bough]

I'm gonna try and make it one if I can lol

[noble current]

That's like bucket list level stuff there.

[proven vortex]

Yo I have a question I’m thinking about getting new wheels but I want spitfire classics but in formula 4 is there any differences between regular classic and formula 4s

[noble current]

I don't know, but I love my new Formula 4s. 😄

[near geyser]

the formula 4s are less prone to flat spots. only downside is they’re just a little more expensive than the regulars and they look “off-white” compared to the regulars because of the formula they use

i have 53mm spitfire formula 4 classics and i like them a lot

i’ve tried the 56mm formula 4 radials too, lots of riding surface

[modest path]

riser pads are always the same right?

because i hada 775 inch deck and im moving to 8 inch buying new trucks and all that

can i re use my old riser with 1 inch hardware?

[noble current]

Yeah, totally.

[fierce siren]

can someone help me with a irl trick

[noble current]

Oh, I missed the 1" part. Depends on how thick the riser pads are.

[fierce siren]

oh nvm there’s a channel for it

[noble current]

Both channels work! Good luck.

[noble current]

Are you reusing the same hardware, or new hardware?

[modest path]

new hardware my old ones just rusty and its like only 3 bucks

ill resue bearings and wheels save as much as i can

[rustic bough]

Assuming you're deck is about 1/2in think and the riser pad is about 1/8in and the nut needed to lock it is about 1/4, a 1in might work

How I always go a little longer to be safe and a little extra length doesn't hurt anything unless it's really jutted out

[noble current]

Yeah. I'd probably go to 1.25", myself. But really depends on that riser.

[near geyser]

@noble current have you seen those new real cathedral decks?

[modest path]

would zummiez deliver early or nah 😭

[noble current]

Oh wow. Not until now! Those are gorgeous! Noooo, more pretty things! I am weak!

[modest path]

i want to but my skate deck and trucks form america because taxes are cheaper and shi but if i ship it to my uncles house i might not get it

im only staying the long weekend and no one really deliveres on weekends

i shouldve bought it yesteraday

[noble current]

Cheaper as opposed to?

[near geyser]

the zion wright one looks amazing

[noble current]

I want all of them! I might have a problem. 😄

[near geyser]

don’t blame you they all look amazing

i’m not huge on pro decks but these are great

[noble current]

My most recent board is my first pro deck. I really need to get over my avoidance of scuffing it, lol. Haven't even ollied with the poor, neglected board.

https://www.sourceskate.com/products/real-skateboard-deck-chima-intertwined-8-06

So. Dang. Pretty. 😭

It was way too good a deal to pass up.

[proven vortex]

I’ll probably go with these

I usually ride 52s but I don’t mind a mm difference

[noble current]

Yeah, not a huge difference there.

[near geyser]

a mm difference isn’t huge i think you’ll be ok

[noble current]

Even going from 52 to 55, it only took a minute to adjust.

[near geyser]

personally i think 52-54 is probably the sweet spot for a lot of things

[near geyser]

what wheels do you ride right now?

[proven vortex]

Ion even know anymore 💀

That’s why I’m getting new ones

[plush gazelle]

Any help with catching heelflips/kickflips with my back foot instead of front foot

I pull my front foot back to catch it and I think that’s selling my flick

[orchid terrace]

Well boys after not skating IRL since 2016 I’m now trying to get back into it. I only rode cruisers cause I filmed for my friends but I’m gonna try and hit a park tomorrow and work my way up to dropping in before I move to South FL.

[clear citrus]

You got this mann

[open lark]

Practice landing them with your front foot landing on the ground, like a mongo push, catching only with your back foot.

[orchid terrace]

Well I haven’t dropped in yet but I hit my first Ollie before heading out to the park

I’ve gotta get it consistent and it’s a small thing but I hit it and it still feels good

[noble current]

That's excellent!

[orchid terrace]

Yeah I hit that but couldn’t drop in today. Didn’t wanna do it without anybody there to make sure I don’t die

[noble current]

That's totally fair.

[clear citrus]

It’s already something mate, next day you drop in

[orchid terrace]

It’s something

[rustic bough]

I don't know if you noticed or not but Landyatchtz has a scratch and dent section that takes a chunk off the price
https://landyachtz.com/collections/oops#oopsboards

I just got an email that they are moving and everything on their site is 20%-30% off
[I don't need it... I don't need it.... I don't need it... I NEEEEED IT]

[noble current]

OMG, why would you do that to me???!! 😄 😄

[rustic bough]

I needed someone else to feel my pain 😅

[noble current]

Whew, not nearly as much available on their Canadian site. My temptation levels are at a healthier level again.

Though I did find a retailer out of BC who ships surfskates for free within Canada, so now I have that temptation hitting again. And only like a month or two left before my skate window closes.

Wow, though. These are amazing prices.

I've been wanting that Dinghy Emboss ever since I went for the blunt instead. It was between the Emboss and the one I eventually went with. Why do you tempt me??! Argh.

https://landyachtz.com/collections/cruiser/products/dinghy-blunt-synth-mini-skateboard

[orchid terrace]

yo what there are some amazing deals here

every single one of them is sold out :sadge

i will definitely keep that in mind though

[solemn stag]

The site i plan to buy my future front bumper off of does this same thing so ill probably be buying mine that way 😅

[noble current]

That's how I found the complete I got when I first got back into skateboarding after coughmumblesomething years. It was nothing special, but that meant I wasn't afraid to ding it up, too, because it came that way! 😄

[solemn stag]

Yeah i can get a 800 dollar carbon fiber bumper for like 500 that way since it had a small visual defect

[rustic bough]

If you want a waterborne adapter keep an eye on their site/sign up for their emails, I got mine for a pretty good deal on sale, don't remember what time of year it was though. I swear I'm not sponsored by them lol

[noble current]

Lol. Good idea.

[near geyser]

just get a black marker and cover the scratches. no one will even question it 😅

unless they’re having a closer look 😥

[solemn stag]

No need to cover it

Cause race car

[near geyser]

vroom

[stuck ore]

Any ideas on what a good price for good bearings are? I want to get new bearings for my board but have no idea what to expect

[rustic bough]

Around $15-$25 USD (I use bones reds for street and Zealous on my longboards)
But I know CSS makes some good ones for around $12 if you are looking for cheaper

[stuck ore]

I'll keep those names in mind

I'm hoping to go down to my skate shop later in the week

[near geyser]

bones reds are pretty good for the price, lowest being £15 ($17)

i remember talking to somebody here about the bronsons

@noble current hey, how are those bronsons bearings working out for you?

thing is bronsons and bones reds are the same price from what i’ve seen, so it might be down to personal preference

[noble current]

I haven't noticed much of a difference so far, though it's been too hot to really put the Bronsons to the test. Just rolling them on my fingers right out of the box, they weren't nearly as smooth as the Bones. Like... I felt there was friction. I haven't added oil or anything yet, though.

So I guess it might depend on your style. I skate street. Not sure if my opinion would be different in park or vert.

[stuck ore]

I skate street mainly because I've never been to a park yet.

This is also making me think if I should get new wheels too, but I feel like my wheels aren't worn enough to make it worth it

[near geyser]

as long as they aren’t really small it should be fine. but if buying skate parts makes you happy then i don’t see why not

[stuck ore]

I probably won't buy wheels then, can probably get about 2 more years out of them

[orchid terrace]

Reds is the best

[noble current]

Yeah, I'll probably stick with Reds moving forward. I was just curious about the Bronsons, since they were so similarly priced.

[molten ore]

The similar priced Bronsons are probably equal in quality. The more expensive Bronson Raws are by far my favorite bearings though. The shieldless ones.

All I ride.

[rustic bough]

Shieldless? Do they get dirty faster?

[molten ore]

I haven't had issues from it, but I'm typically not skating the dirtiest spots. They are shiedless though so you can just stick em in alcohol, shake them around, and then lube them back up. Good to go.

[rustic bough]

I might try em next time I need a pack

[molten ore]

Highly suggest!

[rustic bough]

I hear windex is amazing for cleaning them

[molten ore]

Nice, I'll have to give it a shot.

[near jungle]

skated for the first time yesterday 🙏

only rode about for a bit

literally today though, my friend fell off of a skateboard and his front tooth fully came out

[near geyser]

nice!

i remember talking to you about getting your first board, what did you decide on?

[near jungle]

i ended up getting a creature complete

the bearings suck on it though

[near geyser]

creature make some pretty good decks, good choice

do creature make their own trucks and wheels?

[near jungle]

not sure

from searching it up it looks like it

[near geyser]

it doesn’t say anywhere that theyre branded. probably just their own wheels and trucks

[dim creek]

creature is lit

[near geyser]

cop some spitfire wheels or powell peralta dragon formula wheels and some bones bearings, that'll do you right

[near geyser]

@near jungle probably your best bet

oh oops i tagged the wrong person

but ye

spitfire formula 4 classics are pretty good

[hazy marten]

Progress update: I’ve landed my first few Shuvits and I’ve learned how to reduce speed wobbles. I’ve been kicked out of my first location and I’m having a blast!

[near geyser]

i remember when you first just started skating and you posted your deck here, nice job man

i wish i could make solid progress like you. unfortunately i’m a bit of a fat wuss so learning to skate again is a bit hard

[hazy marten]

I’m trying out power slides rn, any sort of physical activity is all a mental game, that’s all

[near geyser]

you’ll have them in no time with your speed

[hazy marten]

Yeah, my one wipeout so far was a hill bomb lol

[near geyser]

ouch

how did that go

[hazy marten]

Check irl skate pics

It’s kinda far up

[near geyser]

oh yeah i remember

could’ve been a whole lot worse

[modest path]

do superstars make good skate sheos

[modest path]

Also is there a way I can like make mob grip ruin my shoes a little less or nah?

[rustic bough]

There's ways you can reinforce your shoes a little bit with shoe goo and other small hacks, but honestly, not really. All grip tape is basically nothing but sandpaper. Not much you can do to stop sandpaper from striping things down other than wear it out so it's not as grippy, but then you stick to it less

[near geyser]

just get grizzly? lol, gotta deal with mob destroying unless you shoe goo

think of skate shoes as disposable as boards, you skate them till they're done then replace

[modest path]

i have shoe go but one skate sesh its all gone with mob

like wtf 💀

[modest path]

you use them until you physically cant anymore

like the bottom wears out

or the deck snaps

[near geyser]

yeah exactly

holes in shoes arent even a sign to stop

u skate them jawns til the top fallin off

or til bottom grip wears out

[near geyser]

after a year of skating with pretty crap ollies it happened, a solution, i figured it out, my foot positioning!!!!

i now arise to a knew challange, 'the kickflip' i have the 'flip' part down but when i go to 'ollie' the board mu back foot doesnt go straight up causing the board to fling out 😫

[noble current]

You'll get there!

[robust shard]

Just had the best sesh

[near geyser]

what happened?

[robust shard]

We where at a new park for like 5 hours

And I learned new tricks

[near geyser]

nice

[robust shard]

@near geyser i got a new board too

#irl-skate-videos-and-clips

[mental veldt]

i landed my first kickflip for some time ago!!😲

[dreamy dagger]

Nice !

[jagged yoke]

I have a question real quick!
Is it not good that I (a beginner) grind the nose of my board on the floor?

Also getting the hang of doing ollies

[near geyser]

Anyone skate irl and can tell me if I’m good for my first day on learning how to Ollie and what I’m doing wrong?

[crisp niche]

First day isnt anything to think too hard about. practice, practice, patience, practice.

it WILL take time

[near geyser]

Can i dm you the clip?

[crisp niche]

Post it in #irl-skate-videos-and-clips

[plush gazelle]

I have never been more motivated in my life to improve at skating just so I can film a clip of me dressed as Finn the human hitting a heelflip on halloween

[stuck ore]

I got my new bearings a week ago and I've tested them out throughout the week. Smooth and lovely!

Finally went to a skatepark too, think I went good for a first day. Can anyone suggest what I should focus on working on at the park next time I go?

[near geyser]

which bearings did you get?

[stuck ore]

Bones reds

Everyone I asked immediately said bones reds so

[near geyser]

solid choice

[near geyser]

haha yeah no wonder

bones reds are so good for the price

[near geyser]

Hey guys I put my board together last night and noticed that my trucks are squeaking a lot more than I thought they would. What can I do to lessen the squeaks?

[near geyser]

could be the bushings or the pivot cup. i’ve seen people use soap or wax on the pivot cup and it seemed to stop squeaking a bit

[rustic bough]

Get a bar of soap and take a knife and make some shavings and put those shavings around your bushings

[near geyser]

^

my boards been squeaking for some time and i pretty much just thought it was the bushings “breaking in”

i’ll give it a try some time soon

[rustic bough]

It means your bushings are a little dry

[near geyser]

give them a sip of water

(do not)

[rustic bough]

Definitely not lol

[near geyser]

yeah that’ll ruin them

but the soap will be fine

just not liquid soap

@near geyser i’ve got a link talking about how to do it, but the guy uses bones speed cream instead of soap https://youtu.be/xMI8_BdUsbI

Thanks everyone for the help! I'll check out the video as well

i’ve got one where he uses soap for longboard trucks too

should just be the exact same as a skateboard https://youtu.be/6nYVvESTda0

correct me if i’m wrong but it should be right

[near geyser]

@near geyser i gave it a try (with soap), worked really well

little to no squeaks

[near geyser]

not sure why he used pencil graphite in this video, but it might help to use that

[rustic bough]

Graphite makes a good powder lubricant. Use it with machining equipment sometimes

[rustic bough]

*NOT recommend for bearings

[near geyser]

Thanks for the tips everyone! I've now ran into a new issue with the board. The hex nuts on my trucks won't stay in place. My Skate tool doesn't have anything that will keep it locked in as I'm tightening the screws.

[rustic bough]

You mean your bolts are unscrewing or you still trying to get it set up and that you don't have a wrench and a screw driver?

[near geyser]

I figured it out. I was supposed to screw in the nuts with a 3/8 part of my skate tool and kept the screw from moving. lol

Sorry I'm still trying to learn the terms for the hardware lol'

[noble current]

We all start somewhere!

[near geyser]

No we don’t

[noble current]

Those who don't start don't live.

[dusk delta]

yo I have a question, i was adjusting my trucks to make them a bit loose, and when i start riding it ocasionaly makes a loud cracking noise, should I be worried?

[rustic bough]

Can you video that or send a pick of your trucks? A cracking sound is definitely a cause for concern

[dusk delta]

I might go to a local skate park near me today, I will definitly try to record it if i do go

[plush gazelle]

Any tips for pulling my back foot up when heelflipping

I can do it while ollieing but heelflips are different for me

[hazy marten]

Week 4 I think*
Progress update:
I'm a lot more comfortable on the board then i was last week. All of the tricks or maneuvers that I do know are very close to muscle memory. Riding in general feels a lot more natural, and I'm starting to get ollies, but just barely. I currently have the beginner rocket ollies under my belt lol. I can do shuvits stationary, but not consistently whilst moving. I would like some tips on that as well.

Shuvit problems; moving**
Whenever I try to shuvit while moving, I either underrotate, do a hippy jump, or simply don't land on the board. I'm not sure if this is simply a commitment issue, or if i need some more practice, but I thought i'd put this here regardless.

All in all, I'm having a ton of fun, and i'm still getting ugly looks in my neighborhood full of old people lol. <-- This doesn't bother me though, I just laugh to myself and move on. Not on private property of course

Tricks I can do (comfortably): Reverts(BS and FS), Roll off curbs, Shuvits(stationary), Manuals(kinda)

[mortal dragon]

nice

[rotund zinc]

Nice

[rustic bough]

That's some great progress!

[near geyser]

i hate this skate phase im in, i got no one to skate with so im barley on the board 😭

[near geyser]

this is the worst part of skating

might need to just stick in some headphones and focus on your tricks

good part about skating alone is you aren’t trying to impress anybody

[rustic bough]

Skating alone is my happy place

[frail swallow]

i think i impressed some little kid who walked by with his parents. he said “he skateboardin’”

[fading otter]

i know this is kind of a weird place to ask but i had a question about irl skating, i’m trying to find a place to buy a single shoe since i don’t really skate switch ever and only my left shoe is completely destroyed, right shoe practically still brand new

[frail swallow]

i’ve actually thought of this before, more of a shower thought than a skating thought. might be able to go to a shoe store and see if you can buy a shoe

on second thought, probably better to get a new pair considering one shoe is gonna feel different than the other. might make walking awkward

[fading otter]

truuuue i didn’t think about that

other shoe is broken in for years

[weary solstice]

There’s a skate shoe brand called Cariuma that sell single shoes, I have no idea about their quality tho

[stuck ore]

Does anyone have tips for doing an ollie while moving? I'm struggling massively to get it off the ground, and when I do I fall off the board

[rustic bough]

I wonder if there's a place a goofy rider and a regular stance rider that are the same shoe size can link up and go in on a pair of shoes together to replace the front foot shoe.

[vagrant oak]

lol that sounds like a brilliant idea for a website

[weary solstice]

People proficient at switch skating gonna make a massive profit

[near geyser]

i know you can buy singles online at cariuma

[near geyser]

damn you beat me to it

[rustic bough]

I'm thinking you put in your size and shoe styles/colors you'd be fine to receive. Then the app "matches" you with whoever had a size and style you picked out.
From there with your matches, ask which one you want to "go in on". Then the app (acting as the l third party/middle man situation) buys the complete pair and individually packages it to the individuals.

The app/company would get a small fee to handle the buying and shipping out. Outside of just matching, having the business run like this would also protect the other skater of being scammed out of a shoe and someone abusing good faith to get a new pair half off.
The only question is would that fee be enough to cover the costs of running without it being too high that just getting a new pair would be the better deal overall.

But this could even work for people outside of skating for whatever reason they need a specific shoe. I remember seeing on Instagram an amputee shares pairs with an opposite leg amputee.

Now if someone sees this and decides to pursue it have at it. I don't have the time or energy to set something like this up lol

[near geyser]

cariumas are so clean

i don’t think all of them are skate shoes though

[clear citrus]

What would you guys recommend, Nyjah free 2 or cariuma slip-on skate pro? I have fat feet, so take that in mind haha

[near geyser]

if you’re really true to size the nyjahs will be good

but it is all mesh and rubber

[clear citrus]

I'm using sb shanes right now, and I bought 9.5 when I'm really 8.5/9, and at the beggining they were hurting, so that tells you everything haha

So in the case of the Shanes, I wouldn't be able to buy 8.5 at all, but I can't be skating with a space of the shoe on the tip with nothing in it

[near geyser]

they look kinda narrow on the photos

imagine all that toe room

[clear citrus]

So Nyjahs are less narrow in theory?

[near geyser]

honestly, i’m not sure

they look like they get narrower towards the toe

[clear citrus]

Yeah they look like it

[near geyser]

do you exclusively like nike sb for skate shoes?

[clear citrus]

Hmm I have been really comfortable with sb yeah, but I'm thinking about the cariumas that I said before

But they look kinda narrow too, similar to the shanes

Nyjahs also are at 45% sale now in nikes website, so that's a plus lol

[near geyser]

yeah, and with slip on shoes they’re kind of tight

i’ve had the vans slip ons, and they were pretty tight regardless of what you did to them

i replaced the insoles in them and they’re a lot better now though

[clear citrus]

Thing is, the Shanes were really hurting me at the beggining, but then when it stopped hurting, it has been my best skating shoe, even though it was longer than my actual size

[near geyser]

are your feet wider towards your toe?

[clear citrus]

Hmm interesting

[clear citrus]

Yeah man, I'm like a freaking hobbit lmfao

[near geyser]

might wanna look at something like the nike force 58. bit of a wider toe (kind of resembles a dunk or jordan 1)

[clear citrus]

It's hard for me man, I don't like big shoes like those, but I guess I'll have to try them or something

I also heard of ppl that put the shoes in the microwave for a few seconds right after buying it, so I was thinking about that too

[near geyser]

the force 58s are pretty small considering they’re supposed to be inspired by the dunk

[clear citrus]

True but still not my stile, maybe I'll give them a try anyway

I'm still wondering about the Nyjahs though, because they look like they are in the middle, not narrow but not big either

[near geyser]

true, always worth a try of every shoe

you can always return them if anything

[near geyser]

i have a pair of them, and apart from the weird vulc-cupsole mix they used and mediocre nike insole they’re not too terrible

i’m just used to vans popcush lol

could look at vans too. half cabs are pretty good considering they’re a little wider than most vans

[clear citrus]

I never liked vans, but mainly bc it was so freaking mainstream when I was growing up that it made me despise the brand lol

[near geyser]

i don’t blame you they’re still a bit too mainstream

look at the floor and it’s a sea of old skools

[clear citrus]

haha yeah

Btw, how about the Ishods? they also look a little big but the design is dope

[near geyser]

they sort of have that dunk toe box too

wouldn’t be surprised if they fitted ok

[clear citrus]

Hmm I'm between Nyjahs and Ishods now haha

[dusk delta]

sorry to respond so late, but I posted the vid in #irl-skate-videos-and-clips , i had to turn the qaulity down cuz I dont have discord nitro, I made sure not to skate on cracks and the floor was clear, im at a park rn

[rustic bough]

Hm... How loose are your trucks? It seems to make that sound as you step back on the board after pushing. I wonder if you loosened it a little too much so there some play room that's being pushed down when you put weight on it

[dusk delta]

wait yeah I just realized it only does that when i put my weight on one side

i put another vid in #irl-skate-videos-and-clips

[rustic bough]

I'm pretty certain your trucks are too loose. Tighten them by quarter turns and check each time and listen for the clicking

If the board feels like you need it looser after that then you need softer bushings

Send a pick of your trucks showing the bushings and kingpin if you can

[dusk delta]

i dont have my tool with me cause i forgot it, i will make sure too next time I come here, thanks for all the help so far man :)

[modest path]

i want nyjahs so bad

the good thing about them is the laces are like covered so if you do heel flips a lot then its better

they looks so good too

[clear citrus]

Well now it's the right time, 44% off in nike's website

[modest path]

wait what

why does this bot delete caps huh

[clear citrus]

https://www.nike.com/es/t/sb-nyjah-free-2-zapatillas-de-skateboard-c0KSLt/BV2078-100

At least in Spain they are 44% off

[modest path]

oh spain 😅

[clear citrus]

are them not on sales in your country then?

[modest path]

no in candad its on sale too

[clear citrus]

Ah nice then

[modest path]

ngl might but them

i wanted to get them for my birthday but like on sale ykyk

they fit true to size?

[clear citrus]

yeah, my gf is probably gonna get them for me for my birthday, but that's in a month so I'm having doubts lol

[clear citrus]

got no idea, I always tend to buy a little bigger than my size, but that's bc my feet are too fcking fat lmao

[modest path]

im buying them i need it

[clear citrus]

Hit me up whenever you try them please

I need opinions

[clear gazelle]

does any one have any tips on how to get over the mental block of committing to ramps and landing tricks, i have this constant fear of breaking something or just having a great fall and hurting myself even if its a roll in ramp

[dense bough]

I mean I don’t have tips but got advice, no matter how fearful you get of breaking something or even hurting yourself just full on commit, the more you commit the faster you’ll get the trick you’re aiming for. Just keep going man you’ll get it

[rustic bough]

Constantly. I can't afford getting hurt again.

Spend some time learning how to fall properly so muscle memory kicks in to protect you rather than letting your body do whatever, that takes out a chunk of the risk.

Other than that, keep riding till you are comfortable as you can be just riding around. Get comfortable riding with one foot (by not putting your pushing foot back on the board), get comfortable riding and pushing switch.
Get comfortable doing hippy jumps while riding around. Then get comfortable doing a hippy jump 180 (you jump up and rotate while the board stays on the ground under you).
This will help your balance greatly and you'll stick to your board better even if you feel like you're going to fall. More confidence on board will help you branch out to tricks and drop-ins (which is such a great feeling)

[near geyser]

How long has it taken you all to get fully comfortable with cruising around?

I've been learning to skate again lately, and I feel a lot of my time has been spent learning foot placements, shifting my weight around, and balancing on my board.

[lament creek]

Lmao i broke my wrist

[dusk delta]

it took me about a month, but im young and got school so I cant really spend to much time on it, id say just take your time, its better to practice at your own pace, but hey, thats just me.

[near geyser]

Who wanna play a game of skate on vid?

the challenge is up

[bold abyss]

just learned that if you are ever skating a painted curb, the paint will come off and stick to your clothes.

[worldly fiber]

Bro

My board went in a storm drain

But I’m so happy because it was one big enough for me to poke my head in

So I lay down and put my right arm in and I see it

And I was able to get it no problem

And it all happened because of a goddamn pebble

It got under my wheel, made me kick my board straight back and there just so happened to be a drain there

But goddamn getting that thing back felt so good

Moral of the story is be careful lads

[zenith root]

Hi there

I’m interested in either skateboarding or long boarding but idk where’s the best place to find one

Anything under $100

[worldly fiber]

Only took me a week

I’m still new but already very comfortable with it

[long tree]

It mainly depend on what you'll do with that skate. Even for longboard there's different catégory. You'll mostly find cruiser and complete under 100$. I suggest going to decathlon, you'll find good beginner board.

[rustic bough]

And I er on the side of caution with a board that costs anything less

[timber remnant]

All vote for the eradication of all pebbles say yay if not say yay

[mortal dragon]

ayo does anyone skate with risers

also what size wheels are good for street skate

[noble current]

I do on my cruiser build. 59mm wheels and quarter inch risers. I have to really try to get wheel bite. I don't on my street build, though, since I just have 52s on that one.

[mortal dragon]

ok that helpful

thx

[vagrant oak]

got my first ollie today :D

[uncut steppe]

Nicee

[near geyser]

lets gooo

nice job man

[devout grail]

Guys cuold someone explain to me hot to do a big flip?

[prisma ice]

master big spins and master tre flips

[teal hornet]

you do a reaaaaallly big spin

[lament pecan]

Theres also the lazy way. If you can do a backside flip, try doing a varial flip 180

[hazy marten]

I may or may not have just had my second or third hall of meat moment, also on a hillbomb. both of my hands are bleeding and I hit my shoulder pretty hard, and put a hole in my jeans near the knee. I should probably stop doing hillbombs given my painful past in it. week 7 is going great tho, starting to get moving ollies, and can do them well. Ill keep the updates coming.

[hazy marten]

Oh also, i need some help. my ollies almost always make me turn to the right. is this because of my shoulders or something else? I ride goofy.

[tidal lance]

I was in San Francisco a few days ago for the first time and I realized how close EMB, Hubba Hideout, and the Pier 7 Manny pads all were to each other

That place was sure a street skating paradise in the 90s

[rugged mural]

anyone else only able to land kickflips with 1 foot still?

[clear citrus]

Could be shoulders or back foot placement I would say, I have a friend who has the same problem and he pops with the back foot way off in one side instead of in the middle of the tail

[hazy marten]

Ill be sure to experiment with that, Thanks for the input! 🙂

[clear citrus]

Let me know how it goes!

[stuck ore]

I can never balance when I try a moving ollie, could shoulders help out?

[clear citrus]

You mean it turns to one side or you just fall when landing due to balance?

[stuck ore]

Falling off because balance

Like I'm getting air and leveling the board out but when I land the board goes flying

[clear citrus]

Hmm shoulders could be a factor yes, try point them to the front just like your feet

Instead of pointing them to the direction you are going to

I’m spanish so maybe I didn’t explain it right, let me know haha

[stuck ore]

I get what you're saying

I'll try that next time I'm out because thinking about it, my body is twisted when ollieing

[clear citrus]

And if the board goes flying to the front, yo might be falling with all the weight in the back foot

[clear citrus]

Yeah if it is twisted it will maybe cause that, but maybe it’s something else

[stuck ore]

I'll try not twisting and see if it helps. If not then I can tick it off the list and try something else

Thanks for the tips :)

[clear citrus]

No problem mate

Hopefully that works

[uncut steppe]

Does anyone here know about the red top ply curse?

I’m not superstitious but I’m a little-stitious?

[gaunt vigil]

Are the chicago sb dunks worth it? It aint suede so idk if they good

(I can get em cheap 2nd hand unused cuz i aint paying 500 for em)

[near geyser]

if they’re canvas they’ll probably blow out in a few sessions unless the toe has some suede or leather

[rustic bough]

I'm trying to remember what Professor Schmidt said, but there is an episode of the The Nine Club where he's interviewed and I remember him talking about it. I don't remember what he said though. But vaguely remember him saying something about dyes affecting the wood but not actually

[molten ore]

Red dye in general seems to be awful for everything. Even tattoos it’s the most troublesome color for irritating your skin. 😂

[stiff raptor]

It’s also one of the few food dyes folks are allergic to. FD&C Red

[molten ore]

That's true! Never really thought about this.

[vital condor]

u guys recommend ace trucks

the classic ones

[vital condor]

nvm i bought them

[noble current]

I've heard really good things about them but never used them myself.

[molten ore]

Ace trucks are great!

Best turning trucks out of the box.

[tame hamlet]

ive heard good things about them but ive always have thunder trucks

[vital condor]

thx

mine are arriving tommorow

[hazy marten]

Due to a "sport" im competing in, and going to state for, my parents wont let me skate for 3 weeks... internal suffering

[timber remnant]

RIP💀

[uneven panther]

Ay I wanna snap my deck but I don't wanna do it by doing it myself I wanna break it doing sum what's da best way to

And I wanna snap it bc it's getting small gir me

[clear citrus]

Well do a fs lipslide, those are board breakers

[tacit shore]

bro

today i broke my deck on a gap

lol

[flint carbon]

have you guys tried the vans bearcat?

there’s no skate reviews on yt

[vagrant oak]

hey guys, I've managed to get ollie down pretty consistent and I've started to learn how to shuv it, I've landed a couple but not consistently. I've come to ask if anyone has any tips about learning ollie while moving forward cause I'm really struggling with that

[granite prism]

is grip gum gonna damage my grip tape?
or is muddy wheels gonna damage my bearings?

also i cant rlly ollie even how do i know if my board still has a pop?

[rustic bough]

1. No
2. Highly likely because you don't want dirt and water in your bearings
3. Then you won't really notice a difference and it's not something I'd expect a beginner to be aware of so just keep riding it till it's busted.

Don't ride in the mud

[granite prism]

it wasnt like i rode through mud i trained some of my tricks on grass where it was muddy

[granite prism]

Can i pull out bearings from a skatbeoard

A prebuilt

[vagrant oak]

yea a prebuilt is just a skateboard someone else has built for you

[granite prism]

Like a complete skateboard

How do i clean those bearings

[vagrant oak]

yeye my skateboard is a cheat prebuilt I found in a store that I replaced the trucks and bearings on lmao

I'm not sure I'm sure you'll find some help on youtube or someone else who's been skating a bit longer can tell you

[granite prism]

Can you at least tell me how to put these wheels back on

Pls

[vagrant oak]

on the trucks?

as long as the bearings are in it you should just be able to put the wheels on and screw the bolt back on

just dont over tighten it

https://youtu.be/9TTqG5U8bcI <for cleaning bearings

[granite prism]

If i cant take them off how do i clean em

[near geyser]

you can’t really clean them if you can’t take them off

are you having trouble with taking the bearings off?

sometimes bearings can be a real pain. very stubborn

especially on cored wheels

pain in the ass with ricta chrome clouds

[zenith flicker]

i remember that i used to try to do ollies over cracks on the pavement to help myself with ollies while moving, it was slow, but i felt the progress, after that i tried to ollie over bumps while trying to grab a little bit more speed (if i felt comfortable with it)

then i started to ollie over plastic bottles, cans, skates and more stuff, brings good memories. Don't feel afraid to try new stuff, after all we all learn differently, happy skating and good luck

Ohh also something i remember noticing back then is that while doing ollie moving i used to lean my body forward as with the skate, that was at that moment, i think my ollie changed a lot through years

[granite prism]

So i cleaned my bearings with hand sanatizer and now its making a hissing noise

[rustic bough]

Did you put any bearing lubricant/cream in them? Hand sanitizer might clean them, but it will also dry them out. You'll need something like bones speed cream, sewing machine oil, or my personal favorite, a tube of white lithium grease from the hardware store. That stuff lasts forever

[granite prism]

will it still work if i do it now

[near geyser]

anybody know any good uk deck brands?

[rustic bough]

Yep, no worries

[gaunt vigil]

Got my first 5 stair today to celebrate my 10 month skateboarding🎉

[karmic sky]

just started skateboarding today

almost landed a ollie

[near geyser]

I would like to start skating but idk what skate to buy

(italy)

[gaunt vigil]

If you're starting just buy a complete for 110$ doesnt matter which brand.

[clear citrus]

Congrats mate!! Nice

[warm basin]

Does anyone have any tips for beginners (never used a skateboard but have always wanted to)

[gaunt vigil]

Thanks chief

[gaunt vigil]

Try to get comfortable on your board, just ride it to everywhere. After about a week or 2 just try to go to the skatepark and ride around, try to get comfortable with shifting your weight. After thst you can go your own way. And watch alot of youtube tutorials to help.

[warm basin]

Awesome, thank you

[gaunt vigil]

No worries

[worldly fiber]

PSA: WEAR A HELMET!!!
Was out today. Been skating like 2 months. Going down a reasonably steep parking lot. Do it all the time though, so quite familiar with it. Trucks must have loosened. Speed wobbles were pretty bad. Went down once and had to hop off because it was too fast. No fall though. Should’ve quit then. Do it again. Get to a certain point and just can’t stay on. Fall off going downhill and quite fast. Land on my left shoulder and side. Head smacks the ground. Literally would’ve killed me or given me permanent damage. Wear a helmet people ESPECIALLY if you’re a beginner.

Id rather come out with my life and a skinned shoulder than die

I look like an idiot with my bike helmet on a skateboard

But that bike helmet saved my fuckin life

[rustic bough]

As good as this advice is, unfortunately I've seen for many, that they have to have a scary fall before deciding to put a brain bucket on.

Also, you should know that a bike helmet does not have the same safety ratings that a skate or multi-sport helmet have. In fact many helmets you can find from stores won't have the proper ASTM F1492 rating on them for falls. One with the proper rating for skating will be able to take multiple small/minor hits. A bike helmet is typically rated for one hit and it's done, need to get a new one.

[worldly fiber]

Yeah I know

This is a goddamn good bike helmet because it’s taken some big hits and remained stable

But I’ll definitely get a skate helmet soon

Especially since the bike helmet only covers the top and I actually got a scrape on the side of my head

[rustic bough]

It's ASTM F1492

https://helmets.org/dualcert.htm

[worldly fiber]

Thanks for that

I’ll make sure to get one certified to the proper standards

Don’t want to take chances

Poor little bike helmet has served me well

Time for an upgrade

[molten ore]

I really like the fit on Triple 8 skate helmets.

[terse elbow]

I need to get back into skating I haven’t touched my deck in like 5 months and the parks around me are ass

[near geyser]

i feel that so much

i haven't found a good park in quite a while

[near geyser]

same here, feels like i haven’t skated in ages because the weather has been so bad

[terse elbow]

Yeah weather hasn’t been the best here but that’s not why I stopped skating tbf like I lost my friends that I skated w and just didn’t have the urge to skate for the time after that

[near geyser]

fr I always pull up to the skatepark and it starts raining after like 2 secs

[near geyser]

lol yeah autumn sucks. just wish i started skating again sooner in the summer just so i’d actually have somewhere dry and warm to go skate

[calm oak]

is it normal for my board to tilt left or right when on stationary? or is it my balance? its hard for me to practice my ollies

[near geyser]

tighten your trucks a little bit

[calm oak]

its already tight to the max, i think its my bushings

the bottom washer is missing too lol

[clear citrus]

Might be the bushings yep

[heady cobalt]

Is this a real hobby

[near geyser]

nope. all fake

not even real skateboards are real

[terse elbow]

They defy the laws of physics therefore can’t exist how do you think it sticks to skaters feet? Think about it they aren’t real

[near geyser]

[wild fog]

Hey

[terse elbow]

Jesse,we have to skate Jesse!!!

[wild fog]

Lol

[granite prism]

can anyone help with my ollies #irl-skate-videos-and-clips

[tame hamlet]

Yo

[tame hamlet]

I might be able to help

[stuck ore]

I think I'm landing more consistent pop shuvits. I'm getting the board up and I'm landing on them about half the time which is definitely an improvement. I just need to start doing it rolling and it'll be perfect. Might send a video if I'm able to get one next time I go skating

[harsh lintel]

does anyone have any advice for starting out skateboarding? my main problem is that i cant commit to even rolling on it. i know it sounds stupid but that wood board with wheels be scary

[rustic bough]

I had a friend that was terrified to try it out, so I took them to a tennis court that was fenced in so they could hold on to the fence and pull themselves around, little by little they stopped grabbing on to the fence as they got used to it.

Big tip is to keep your weight on your front foot just behind where the bolts are. That will help keep you stable as you move.

And if you're really scared, nothing wrong with trying to ride it on your knees a little you get a sense of what it feels like to ride around and how it balances.
On top of that get you some pads and safety equipment and practice falling with the pads on. You'll see that you barely feel it if you drop to your knees and that's a big confidence boost knowing that it won't hurt much if you fall!
There's no shame in going slow and being scared

[round trail]

put the board in some grass or something similar so if you fall then it wont hurt too bad, get started by just balancing on the board and getting used to the feel of it, once you feel comfortable, try to start rolling a bit, like skyfi said, try holding on to something and just go slow, it takes a while to get used to riding, its okay if you are just crusing around for a month, you want to get used to just cruising, dont worry about tricks until you feel comfortable with cruising. also figure out which foot will be the one pushing

[timber remnant]

I just bought griptape for the first time, it was a shake junt (mob), is it supposed to be this gripy? Like coarse grit sandpaper, idk might just be me.

[rustic bough]

It is sandpaper, that's what griptape is

[harsh lintel]

So me, my brother, and my little sister all got boards for Christmas last year. My sister says she made a trick called electric tennis I kid you not 😂 at least that's what she calls it. She puts her feet on the nose and tail and make each side go up then down kinda fast.

[gaunt vigil]

Does anybody know if sb dunks and dunks fit the same? I want to get a pair of SB's but idk the sizing

[uncut steppe]

They should fit true to size if I’m not mistaken

[hazy marten]

Progress update: I can Ollie over a stick!

[warm blaze]

👌

[fringe mica]

Ive landed my first pop shuv it today

[crisp niche]

Nice! Such a great feeling

[stray aspen]

Can anyone give me some tips with levelling out my ollies? I can slide my foot up I’m just unable to push forward to level it out ig always ends up in a rocket position

[edgy flame]

Make sure you lift your back foot way up immediately after you pop so the tail has room to rise up. Both your feet should be at the same level vertically. It also helps to think about sliding your front foot "forward" rather than straight up.

[torn holly]

Anyone know how i can practice skating in terrible weather? Ive had my skateboard for 2 years and everytime i always get serious about practicing again its nearly always in the winter when it rains alot

[stray aspen]

somewhere indoors like an indoor skate park or a garage

[stray fjord]

how do you guys deal with skating by yourself? lost my only skater friend and trying to find encouragement to skate for myself

[fallen flower]

Does someone have the saiz totem pole deck cause I wanna know what truck size is good for that board

[stone umbra]

Im usually by myself anyways so i just put some music on and do my thing. It is more fun with friends but there is also something to just enjoying the sidewalk to yourself zooming around

[smoky arrow]

yo does someone know how to front shuv

cuz im able to shuv the board behind me but not land it

[stone umbra]

Are Powell decks good? Thinking about getting one but they are only $50 compared to the usual $60. Are they good and durable like a Zero or Antihero?

[stone umbra]

Would like to know this too lol I have Pop Shuvs on lock but front shuvs are so hard to land for some reason

[zinc quiver]

so im looking for my first skateboard rn.. so some basic infos bout me: im 180cm tall and wear size 12, im a beginner like i can drive but cant do tricks n stuff, is this board fine for me? https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/skatedeluxe-rose-8-5-komplettboard-black_p161121?eav=234&cPath=83

[near geyser]

its fine to start

but once you get to do more tricks i suggest you upgrade

[fringe mica]

I started with an 8.5 so yea its good

[zinc quiver]

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/toy-machine-moon-man-8-5-komplettboard-brown_p149234?eav=234&cPath=83 there is not much diffrence exept for the looks right?

or worth the "upgrade"

[near geyser]

the wheels are different

[zinc quiver]

what will change?

[near geyser]

the feel you get

such as some wheels which are softer are better for rough roads while harder wheels are better for skateparks and stuff

i cant help that much since i dont speak the language that is on the website but

[zinc quiver]

translate it haha

[zinc quiver]

hm i kinda wanna do 50/50 ig

i think the 50$ is not really worth it

[stone umbra]

If you need help with a setup feel free to message me

[zinc quiver]

I will

[gentle haven]

Anybody wear size 11 shoes in US mens?

[lament pecan]

yea

but i'm in the uk haha

[fringe mica]

I wear 12 lol

[gentle haven]

What size board

[fringe mica]

8.5

[gentle haven]

I might go up to 8.5 too. I got a 8.38 rn

[fringe mica]

Nice

[lament hound]

im rockin 9.13 with size 12 feels great

[oak heart]

what is the best deck for me? Ive been skating for a round a month i know how to drop in and do ollie front 180 and back 180 im looking for a deck that will help me learn new tricks and wont chip easily and be able to skate at parks

[lament hound]

try any brand tbh

[lament pecan]

Avoid girl then. They chip sooooo fast. Real boards break easy too. But tbh boards are all inconsistant. I had a mike mo girl board that lasted a year (which is a lot for girl) id say just work your way around the brands

[oak heart]

are krooked decks good?

[fringe mica]

Dont know ive never had one

[lament hound]

i quite enjoy my powell deck

they are rather spenny tho

[queen mica]

I wear a size 13 shoe and use 8.25 - 8.5 boards. I currently have a 8.25 santa cruz deck. Anything over 8.75 feels too big for me to do flip tricks on. It's really up to you though what feels comfortable though. Some people like wider boards for more landing room, while some like narrower ones for faster flicks.

[gentle haven]

Ive never broken a board, but Baker is a good brand if you really want a specific brand

Those weird named board brands at Zumiez are cheap though like Superior

[lament hound]

anything below 8.5 feels like a toothpick for me

im not very good at skating but it was funny trying to kickflip my mates 7.75 and almost doing a triple

im happy where i am with my 9.13 tho

mostly

i need to reget used to grinding on coping

trucks way wider so the angles way higher

[gloomy bough]

I’m wondering is there a part of this server I’m allowed to ask for help? With skating

[rustic bough]

Right here works

[golden narwhal]

yo, is someone skating in Austria (Niederösterreich)?

[dense bough]

yo so I’m getting an FA board for Christmas but the problem is I’ve already got it. Has anyone here skated FA boards and would mind telling me their opinions or personal experience

[frail herald]

hi

[fringe mica]

Sup

[ashen galleon]

I have a size 13 shoe and I want to get into skateboarding but every time I get on one I fall. Is there any help I could get on getting around on a skateboard?

And what would be the best skateboard size for me

[rustic bough]

Falling off isn't a shoe size issue. You need to keep trying till you can learn how to balance and ride

[ashen galleon]

I know I was just pointing that out for the best skateboard size

[dense vortex]

Make sure to know how to stand on your skateboard comfortable and correctly! Do you know your stance? Do you fall while standing still or while pushing?

[ashen galleon]

Standing

I don’t have a Skateboard myself but that’s why I’m trying to get help finding a good skateboard size

[normal zealot]

i once tried skateboarding but my skateboard was cheap and moved very poorly and then i got a long board but i was always busy with classes or just gaming and forgot about and he ended up selling both of them

soo

it wasnt too worth it

but when i grow a bit more and make some money i might get a skateboard from amazon since there is no skate shop in saudi

[dense vortex]

I recommend going to your local skate shop for advise, that's what I did and they are super happy to help you!

[ashen galleon]

Thanks!

[dense bough]

Skateboard size doesnt matter tbf. Smaller boards are easier to do flip tricks but are harder to Land on because they’re smaller in width. Bigger boards such as 8.25’s+ are however easier to Land on because of the space you Are landing on but are harder to do flip tricks. I’d recommend an 8.25.

[vital condor]

some one got an opinion on oj mini super juice?

[teal hornet]

Yo big question

Why are mall grabs bad

Is there a reason

[rustic bough]

The only people who care are people who worry too much about looking a certain way. But here ya go
https://youtu.be/5_ixahXS5Lw

[teal hornet]

🤝

[normal zealot]

im thinking of getting a skateboard

https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/gp/product/B08Q84PPZ4/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A2LU9E56OC8Y7I&psc=1

this one since it has really good reviews

[elfin sage]

Why not check the Braille Skateboard completes? They’re relatively not too expensive if saving money is your aim. Other than that I would much rather either go to a local skateshop and build a custom one or just get a decent known brand that won’t feel like cardboard in a few days of use. Will save you money in the long run. Just saying.

[normal zealot]

reason is im in saudi and i dont know if you have to change currency in check since i see "oh i can buy this let me see" and it comes out way more then the usa price since the amount of gas saudi has or inflation idk saudis currency is strong

[elfin sage]

Figured it was something like that. What about a local skate shop?

[normal zealot]

non exist in saudi that i know of

maybe in riyad but definitely not in jubail but i will check

[elfin sage]

If not just search for known brands on Amazon.

[elfin sage]

Just saw the price difference is quite big. Is about 300 SAR for the cheapest Braille complete.

[normal zealot]

yeah so i have no option but amazon and i fount this one which iks the jackpot of these skateboards on amazon

[pure imp]

[fringe mica]

Why u spaming mongo in every channel

[pure imp]

its no mongo

[fringe mica]

Still

[pure imp]

[fringe mica]

[pure imp]

[gentle haven]

Can anyone fs 5050

[hazy marten]

Progress Update (LONG AWAITED):
I'm back, having been away from skating for a week or so, and not posting for much longer. I haven't been skating as much recently, but I plan to do so more starting this week. In terms of tricks, a haven't learned any new tricks, but I've built up everything I have so far. Here is the list of tricks that I know, and how I may have improved upon them:

• Ollie: Much more comfortable with moving ollies, and I can even ollie off curbs as of today
• Reverts
• Caveman
• Rolling off Curbs
  PS: Im still working on manuals, I'm having trouble finding the balance point, Tips would be great!
• Generally being comfortable on the board

Side Rant: Today when I was skating I spoke with two people near my house, One of them thought that the old people that had yelled at me before were old hags which made me laugh, and another than complimented me on putting in the hours to get better. These small social interactions have motivated me to keep progressing daily more than I could have ever thought! All In all today was a fun, very long skate day!

[rustic bough]

That's awesome! Getting betterand getting support from others. Doesn't get better than that

[fringe mica]

Awesome

[dense bough]

Big Q, has anyone here had an FA board? And would you mind telling me your experiences because I always see some videos have a positive experience while others have a negative experience so I would rather have someone else’s opinion that can personally speak to me about it

[rose leaf]

altimers boards are ass

[rough vector]

good amount of concave but a big ass nose. was a covid "buy any deck i can find" purchase, never cared about buying another but it was an alright deck at best.

[dense bough]

bless thank you 🫶

[gentle haven]

Has anyone skated adidas superstars

[fringe mica]

Nope

Ive only skated DC and puma

[analog walrus]

Nope only skated campus 80s

8/10

[pallid frigate]

any tips for someone getting into skating?

[noble current]

Don't be too hard on yourself, go at your own pace, and have fun!

[pallid frigate]

okay! thanks sm <33

[noble current]

Other than that, if you have a local skate shop, they are a gold mine for tips and answers.

[analog walrus]

If you fall once you'll fall again. if you fall don't land on your hands, Roll

[gray isle]

I ate caca now I can’t move my elbow

[gray isle]

I tried but the rock made me fly and all the force went to my elbow

[near geyser]

i can’t decide on what trucks to get for an 8.38 deck

lot of people say 144 or 149

anybody got any recommendations?

[near geyser]

149s

[analog walrus]

Be sure to wax your wheel wells so u don't get wheelbite

[near geyser]

yeah that’s the one thing i’m worried about with an 8.38 if i used my old inde 144s

i was riding an 8.25 throughout the summer but i think it was a little small. 8.5 seems like a huge jump

could probably use ace 44s since the axle width on them are 8.35 so it’s pretty similar

[smoky arrow]

I wanna get smooth wheels for my 8.25
I want to get ojs
But what do you recommend

[near geyser]

i like the 86a ricta chrome clouds

[tidal lance]

I always skate Bones, can never go wrong with those even bones 100s

[near geyser]

yo i have one question

so i got an 8 size deck

my shoe size is 41 (EU) and im 1.64 tall

what if the deck is too small for me im terrified

[near geyser]

it just depends on how it might feel for you. some people love a smaller board like 8.0 and under

im terrified rn man

idk about small decks

smaller decks flip a little easier

there’s a positive

yea but what if my feet are too big

im a beginner man

your feet can’t be too big for the board

unless the deck is genuinely tiny

oh okay

but tbh i like thick decks man

like 8.25

i feel like it might be too small

i’m a 44 eu and i skate an 8.25. it wasn’t small but i would like a bigger deck like an 8.38

oh

pretty much just preference at the end of the day

oh okay

yeah i wouldn’t worry about it too much

thanks man

besides it’s your first skateboard you’ll love it

ty bro

np

what trucks did you get with the 8?

you could probably size up easily depending on the trucks

i got a complete skate so i dont rlly know

oh okay

ill prolly get a 8.25 next time

yeah see how you like the 8 first

okay

im getting it for christmas

nice

I already bought it and im opening it for christmas

which complete did you get?

ill send in dms

okay

[noble current]

I like completes for first boards. It's a nice and usually affordable baseline for learning your preferences. You might love the size! You'll know in a couple weeks!

[near geyser]

i had a custom setup when i first got back into skating

but money wasn’t really a problem

completes are great considering the cost for them

[near geyser]

btw hey lanti im on a new account

how has your flowery real deck been treating you?

[noble current]

I absolutely love it. I wish I weren't in Canada, though. Tons of snow outside, and the nearest indoor park isn't really reachable for me. I bought a new board just so I can try out some carpet board tricks during the winter. 😄

This one: 😄

https://gnarlyskater.com/globe-sesame-street-mr-snuffleupagus-deck-8-25/

[near geyser]

feel for you about the snow. been super icy on the paths near me

[noble current]

Back atcha! We got snow so early this year, and unlike previous years, it didn't go away for one last ride. I'm hoping to give the indoor place a try during my week off.

[near geyser]

we rarely have snow like this, usually just some snow that doesn’t stick to the floor

[noble current]

Here's hoping the ice clears up for you!

[near geyser]

same for you

[high fog]

I just properly started skating today, I've had a skateboard for years and have always given up, but now I really want to do it

[lament pecan]

Go for it

[high fog]

Stacked it on my foot today

Only think I sprained it, but still

[ionic verge]

can someone tell me some high quality trucks for a skateboard?

[noble current]

I really like Independent XI. I've heard great things about Thunder but never tried them.

[near geyser]

independent all the way

i might try aces on my new setup when i buy it though

[noble current]

Yeah, I've considered Aces, too, but Independents are just such a solid go-to.

[near geyser]

can’t go wrong with them

[ionic verge]

kay

so i will buy them

[subtle raven]

Anybody have some tips for a new skater who's having trouble with figuring out how to push?

Yes I completely admit I can't stay on the board unless it isn't moving.

[near geyser]

have you tried pushing the other way? goofy > regular or vice versa

honestly, it could just be that you haven’t developed the kind of balance you need on your front leg as well as the long stride for your back leg when pushing

[subtle raven]

Tried regular and goofy. Goofy felt really weird to me.

Think I might just try practicing more during the spring when everything isn't snowy here.

[near geyser]

stick with regular if you feel most comfortable with it

[high fog]

Figured out skating isn't much my thing, like the tricks and stuff I just wanna ride it, so I got a longboard today, feels so much better and what I actually want, ik it's not skating but still

[timber remnant]

That's great keep doing you

[noble current]

I recommend putting your board on a thicker carpet or rug, or a folded up towel, and practicing just balancing on your front foot. You might want to tighten up your trucks a little bit, too, if you're finding the board wobbles too much.

Once you feel more solid with balancing, do the motions of pushing with your back foot without actually trying to push. That will get your brain and muscles used to the flow in balancing.

[fickle elbow]

Are you rotating your front foot when you go to push?

Getting that foot pivot down is tricky but essential

it should be roughly perpendicular to the board when riding, and you should pivot to be parallel with the board when you go to push

[near geyser]

anybody get any cool decks for christmas?

[high fog]

Fully stacked it today

[rustic bough]

Idk where you got that from, but that's 100% skating, and anyone who says otherwise needs to learn some skateboard history

[high fog]

Yeh true, find it way more fun too anyway, I dream of doing those downhills 😂

[rustic bough]

Same! I can slide, but I live where it's super flat so not much I can do with that

[high fog]

😂 Ahah yeh, that would fully suck not having much slopy areas, luckily I have quite a few hills and stuff, there is this massive hill in my town that's super steep and everyone Jokes about going down it, and everyone who has gone down it, everyone knows about it

[rustic bough]

Oh nice, that sounds like a fun bomb! What kind of longboard did you get?

[near geyser]

gotta remember skating in the 50s was essentially just pushing around

maybe a few flatground tricks but definitely no tre flips

[rustic bough]

We came from roller skates, clay wheels, milk crates, and surfers
Even with all of the cool street skating out there, the
"1976 World Professional Skateboard Championship" is one of my favorite videos. Amazing how creative it was before we even had standard boards shapes or even an Ollie yet

[high fog]

Platypus type board, 38" pretty flexy

[high fog]

@rustic bough actually drop through board

[rustic bough]

Nice!

[timber remnant]

OMG I landed my first kickflip! I was holding on to something though but I'll take it!

[rustic bough]

That's awesome

[timber remnant]

I landed my first heelfilp the next day at this rate I'll have my own video part

[near geyser]

remember to keep practicing your kickflip too

don’t wanna forget it

[timber remnant]

When I get it more consistent one heelflip one kickflip every time I pickup my board

[noble current]

Does anyone else do carpetboard tricks while in the off-season? What kinds of tricks do you like to do?

[rustic bough]

I have a blank deck I had set up for that and it escalated into a balance trainer lol. I just wish I had gotten some of that soft grip for it instead of the sheet of grip I slapped down. Then I could use the deck barefoot and also so that I don't accidentally scratch up anything. But it's great and works as it should. I even got these things called tramp trucks i put on so I get the height and similar feel as a real setup. Only thing that's different is it doesn't roll or wobble/lean like real trucks

[glass cape]

and what tricks do you do on a carpet ?

[rustic bough]

Shuv's, 180's, kickflips, ollies onto a homemade rail I did out of PVC pipe and wood. Anything that's fun and keeps me in shape while I deal with the majority of days being rainy

[glass cape]

wait

you do kickflips on a carpet ?

how

when you skate on a carpet you juste keep the deck right ?

[rustic bough]

"I even got these things called tramp trucks I put on so I get the height and similar feel as a real setup. Only thing that's different is it doesn't roll or wobble/lean like real trucks"

Though I know it is possible to do with just a deck as I've seen people do it, but I think your foot position might be different than on a real setup.

[noble current]

Yeah, it's (sort of kind of) possible if it's a low pile carpet, though it's not quite the same movement. I just do shuvs and 180s and the like. Powerslides. Anything that doesn't require pop. It seems to help keep the muscles in shape enough that I won't die when the snow finally melts in April/May.

Though, omg, the static build up with the slides. 😁

[cedar oar]

My first board should arrive in a couple days

I used to skate before the pandemic but i had a very trash walmart type of board and never an actual proper board

[noble current]

Nice! What did you get?

[cedar oar]

Got a complete from zoo york

I heard they had flatter boards and I like them over the very concave ones

[noble current]

Nice! I hope you enjoy it!

[cedar oar]

Thanks 🙏

It's still in Germany tho so it still has a bit of a road until it arrives to me

[near geyser]

one question

do 133 mm trucks fit a 7.75 board?

[glass cape]

yup

guys who has a Powell deck here ?

[deft jetty]

Still got that griptape job on lock

https://imgur.com/a/ysYvCeL

[glass cape]

meh

[cedar oar]

The graphic on the board can make the griptape look much sicker so that's what i'm waiting on before giving an opinion :))

But by it's own the griptape looks pretty cool. Don't know how it will hold up against dirt and getting dirty in general

[deft jetty]

Its a Plan B

https://imgur.com/a/FYW9jOX

I swapped it out for the Blind I was riding

https://imgur.com/a/u0mNHFs

[dreamy pike]

Holy wheelbite🤣

[deft jetty]

Nom nom!

[fluid pivot]

bro how can i ollie but can't shuvit good lord

[rustic bough]

Ollie is just jumping with the board. Shuvit requires rotating the board while jumping. There's a whole dimensional layer to it

[fluid pivot]

Yeah it really messes with me

Just annoyed I keep seeing people saying shuvits are the easiest trick that you can learn it in a day and I got no idea what they're talking about lol

[rustic bough]

For me, nailing shuvits was mainly a commitment thing as I was scared to land on the board. Also took me a bit to realize I had to jump forward (actually sideways) to where the board was joining to be because the board actually lands a bit away on your front side rather than right under you where you started at

[cedar oar]

My board got here

But it's gonna be rainy af for the whole rest of the week

[deft jetty]

When I was starting out my first trick was a shuvit

Its easier because your feet still don't understand what they have to do when it comes to an ollie, but if you get on the grass and practice them enough youll get used to it

[fluid pivot]

fair, Thanks for the encouragement!

[deft jetty]

You got it mayne

[cyan skiff]

anyone in austin TX need a drone guy?

[dark rock]

Anyone know of good shoes for skating that also have a wide toe box? Realizing now that all of my shoes squish my toes together... and the only stuff marketed to wide toe boxes are non-skating shoe brands

[cedar oar]

I think Emerica and New Balance might have stuff like that

Been thinking of copping a pair of New Balance shoes myself just to see how they feel

[dark rock]

I'm interested as well.

[cedar oar]

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B08BN2CTNN?tag=mywebsit0c783-20&geniuslink=true I think these come in a wide fit but i'm not sure you'll have to look into it

And on a different website in case you don't use amazon

[rustic bough]

I actually wear Vans just because they have a slightly wider toe box and I'll go a half size up for a little more room.

[dark rock]

These are apparently wide. Idk, I think I need to try some on in person. The list I saw these on also sad the Reynolds Vulc are wide and I have them and they don't seem that way
https://www.newbalance.com/pd/nb-numeric-brandon-westgate-913/NM913V1-42810.html

[dark rock]

Half cabs?

[rustic bough]

No, standard sk8 hi or the reg low top

[cedar oar]

Half cabs are kinda expensive for me ngl

I'm going at the market tomorrow tho and there's lots of people that sell second hand shoes (Even though they look like they're new) and depending from where you get them they cheap af

And you can haggle with some of them

Get some half cabs with 20 bucks imagine

[near geyser]

i have some slight wide feet problems and the only skate shoe that i can recommend is the vans rowan. i recommend trying them on because i was able to go down a full shoe size in them

[cedar oar]

vans are so random honestly. Some pairs felt really good on my feet (In general not just skating, i also do parkour here and there and certain vans shoes are really good) and other are just killing my feet

they either have wide toe boxes or are just narrow af

[near geyser]

yeah sometimes you can just get weird clown shoe toes

[cedar oar]

The Navy Sk8 highs were a banger for me

Those shoes lasted me like 3-4 years

I wasn't skating then tho

[near geyser]

i like the look of most vans shoes but i can never trust the sizing

[cedar oar]

I also have a pair of high vans that i bought and wore 2-3 times

They legit just sitting around in the house

I think i'll start using those when i go out and skate

[near geyser]

my first “real” pair of skate shoes were half cabs

i had these regular vans old skools that i used

until i realised they weren’t actually skate shoes, just a regular version

vans rowan also have a half cab style toe which i like

[cedar oar]

That was a big confusion of mine when i was buying shoes a couple of years ago

Couldn't make the difference between the old-skools and the skate ones

[near geyser]

yeah now they’re easier to find

all the new skate branding

[cedar oar]

I like Nike sb's a lot too

and they're pretty cheap if you know where to find them

[near geyser]

i’m not a huge fan of nike sb

i mean, i’d definitely take a pair of dunks

[cedar oar]

fr

[near geyser]

but the insole and the support in most of their shoes aren’t that great

[cedar oar]

it's really unfortunate that the sneakerhead community just straight up ruined dunks

they used to be cheap af now some of them cost a whole leg and an arm

[near geyser]

for real man can’t get dunks anywhere

[cedar oar]

At some point i thought of buying reps

[dark rock]

Thanks!

[cedar oar]

But i was like "Nah i'll most probably won't like them then hate myself for deciding to waste money on them"

[dark rock]

They aren't particularly wide, but I highly recommend eS Accel Slim generally speaking. Though I put in fp insole because the stock insole under the forefoot and the sole are super thin

[cedar oar]

I mean in my country you can find them at 100 bucks depending on which website you look on

Of course the regular ones not special editions like the travis scott's

[near geyser]

i love the look of eS shoes but i can never trust sizing all too much

[dark rock]

I don't think I have particularly wide feet, but I've just been learning recently that our toes should have more space in shoes for our feet/toe bones to be spread out at the natural angle

[dark rock]

10.5 was fine for me, as a 10.5-11.0

[near geyser]

you always need a little bit of room for skate shoes so that your feet don’t suffer

[dark rock]

I have some DC's that I had to go up to 11.0. Because 10.5 will feel fine but then bailing a couple of times on certain tricks, my toes jam into the end over and over again

[near geyser]

skate shoe sizing is a pain

my front foot is slightly smaller than my back foot so i always have a little bit of extra room in the toe

[cedar oar]

Because they're all manufactured differently

One of the big reasons that i'm inclined to buy shoes physically and not online

[near geyser]

always buy skate shoes from your skate shop if possible

[cedar oar]

For example i wear 8.5 and depending on the brand i can go to 9 or down to 7.5

[cedar oar]

We don't have a skate shop in my town

Wack asf

[near geyser]

me neither, we’ve got a “repair shop” inside of an indoor skate park

we have a few skate shops in the city though

[cedar oar]

i could only wish we had a skate shop

i wouldn't have had to wait almost 2 weeks for my board to arrive

[near geyser]

you could always make a skate shop in your town

[cedar oar]

at 15? pass

don't got the budget either XD

I would work in a skateshop tho

Would be dope as hell

[near geyser]

seems like such a great atmosphere

but the only reason why people go into the skate shop i frequently go to is because they put nike dunks in the window

attract all the sneakerheads

[cedar oar]

New policy for skate shops:
You must land a good trick to show you're a skater and not some sneakerhead that wants to buy them just to resell them

At least if they bought them and wore them

But they just hold them in the box and sell them like 8 months later because who tf pays 300-500 dollars for some dunks

[near geyser]

well think about all the beginners who want some shoes but can’t really ollie

[cedar oar]

Idk they ask them skating questions or something

[rustic bough]

Same here. I've been mostly on the "barefoot" shoe thing for a while now. There's a pair of vans classic era that I pulled all the padding/arch in support out of to turn it into a more "barefoot style" shoe. Replaced it with a really thin foam flat insole. Board feel is incredible now and it's super comfy to use as a general sneaker. But landings will feel harder until you learn to land a bit softer

[cedar oar]

Interesting way to learn how to be lighter on your feet

[rustic bough]

You kinda don't have a choice that way 😅

[cedar oar]

Yeah it's either broken kneecaps or you get better

Nothing in between XD

[near geyser]

the worst thing about skate shoes is when they GLUE the insole in

and you have to rip it out

“let’s make the worst insole ever, put it in our skate shoe, then glue it in with the weirdest glue placements to really ruin the inside of the shoe”

[cedar oar]

ABSOLUTELY. And some brands glue the insoles even on the normal shoes

[near geyser]

vans got it right with the removable popcush insole

even osiris shoes have removable insoles (which is a great thing because their insoles are essentially paper)

[cedar oar]

Today was my 1st day of skating after not skating for like 3-4 years and it just hit me that i went out and skated with my pair of old skools XD

I got a pair of red old skools that i put black laces on and i didn't give much thought to it and just put them on

even though i have like 1 pair of sb's one of independents and one of sk8 highs

i'm absolutely braindead

[rustic bough]

I can't wear the popcush ones. The arch part is in the wrong spot and if I do my real size (half size down) then my toes are cramped with the extra padding

But they seem so comfy

[near geyser]

a lot better than your average insole

incredibly chunky and they’re purple

they just don’t really work on the skate slip ons

[cedar oar]

I feel like skate slip ons shouldn't be a thing