sudden crag
I have previously used Remixjs + MongoDB + Prisma. But I don't really like the overhead prisma produces. I want to just use Remixjs and Mongodb.
There is a template to do it: https://www.mongodb.com/developer/products/mongodb/building-remix-applications/
Do does anyone know of any tutorial or guide to effectively use this?
And I really hope that remixjs and mongodb is much faster than remixjs, mongodb and prisma.
Thank you ..
crimson compass
If you want the basic mongodb just use their official driver.
Otherwise there's an ORM specified for mongodb.
If you've done MERN apps, this will look similar.
sudden crag
Otherwise there's an ORM specified for mongodb. can you suggest any? Prisma? I've used prisma and I'm disappointed by how it handles the table joins.
crimson compass
In MERN apps, mongoose was used to manage the db in your app
sudden crag
My guess is, using mongodb driver without any other layer for the database querying will have significant performance boost.
mongoose doesn't add it's own layer? I mean, does it also have it's query engine like Prisma?
crimson compass
In my opinion If you have a high degree of relations in your app just switch to SQL database.
crimson compass
mongoose doesn't add it's own layer? I mean, does it also have it's query engine...
I haven't used it in while you can check their website
https://mongoosejs.com/
sudden crag
Sure thank you ..I'll check their website.
copper rock
mongoose doesn't add it's own layer? I mean, does it also have it's query engine...
Everything will add more layer, your code is another layer, Moongose is fast thought
sudden crag
But does mongooes also have query engine like Prisma?
copper rock
I would use Mongoose rather than the mongodb driver but mostly because it has models
sudden crag
yes that's the reason I'm asking this question. Because with mongodb driver its hard to write and debug queries.
Now I'm stuck. between mongoose and prisma.
I read that Prisma has improved their performance with the latest release.
copper rock
I would use Mongooae since it’s specialized in Mongo
It should be faster too, since it doesn’t need to support multiple DB engines
dusty knot
As a former Mongo employee and current Prisma user (sql), I would also suggest Mongoose. It has the best overall support for mongo.
sudden crag
It should be faster too, since it doesn’t need to support multiple DB engines
thank you ..
sudden crag
As a former Mongo employee and current Prisma user (sql), I would also suggest M...
But you still suggest Prisma if it's SQL? Ex: Postgres
dusty knot
That's my preferred. I use CockroachDB which is Postgres compatible. Prisma just did some query optimizations for Postgres and CockroachDB
shell rose
I think prisma has about the best DX of anyone right now, so whether to use them matters a bit about how much you care about that
Drizzle is really fast and nice with SQL but it’s not (yet) as easy to use as Prisma
sudden crag
I'm sorry, what is DX? I'm new to all these!
shell rose
Sorry, developer experience
shell rose
Yeah
sudden crag
But what about the performance issue? They have their query engine inbetween your application and database.
Especially, for people using noSQL. Ex: MongoDB.
shell rose
Their joins are less performant than regular queries but that isn’t always an issue, it’s still more than fast enough for any app i build
And I’m hoping that by the time that changes, drizzle will have their relational query format close enough to feature parity that I can switch to them
sudden crag
ok fair enough.
Thanks for all the information. I'l have to spend some time and make the decision for my needs now. Thank you.
I used Prisma 4.xx and now want to switch to Prisma 5 and use their JSON engine or whatever, which is better than postgres engine. But I'm scared of the migration, since it's a production app!!
shell rose
Yeah prod migrations are scary especially if you can’t have downtime
sudden crag
exactly.
They made some unnessesory syntax changes! At least I feel like that.
That's the reason I'm trying to be very careful while choosing these tools for the new project.
shell rose
Does it require a full database migration or is it just the code that has to change? I assumed code