MB / B&H Routes 54 and 261 to be withdrawn

[karmic thorn]

To be replaced by a new route, the 500

From Eastbourne - Gatwick via Polegate, Uckfield, East Grinstead, and Crawley

Route to be operated by Metrobus, with potentially some 54 vehicles being transferred

[nimble seal]

oh damn

I read the title seeing 54 and shat myself ibsr

also since when was there a route 54 from mb

oh nvm it's a B&H route

still

wait the 261 is a compass route wtf

[karmic thorn]

lmao what

[nimble seal]

seriously

[karmic thorn]

that’s funny af

[nimble seal]

so what I'm getting from this is that it's an extended B&H route that kills a compass bus route that runs pretty much entirely into Metrobus territory

[karmic thorn]

It’s being ran by CY

js called Brighton and Hove on legals hence why the above

[nimble seal]

ah

[karmic thorn]

Compass really getting the short end of the stick 😭

[nimble seal]

so it's a metrobus route that kills a compass route but also kills a B&H route which is operated by the same company as metrobus

yum

icl getting your route taken by an opposing comp with support from the nearest airport is sad asf

[karmic thorn]

and support from both councils 😭 💀

West Sussex AND East Sussex County Councils 😭 😭 😭

[undone mauve]

AYYY FINALYY

tbh if compass could get some sort of merged ticket like in newcastle

I'd be happy

[nimble seal]

Ever since they left roblox I'm telling you

[undone mauve]

also whats the source for this

[gleaming turtle]

Gatwick to Eastbourne will be a fun route

[undone mauve]

real

deadrun crawley to eastbourne though 🥀

cant help but think some journeys will be operated by b&h or they'll put some MB buses in uckfield garage

[copper monolith]

so 54 and 261 are being merged to form the 500
Thats going to be one lengthy route

[undone mauve]

plus following the 400 but avoiding crawley town centre

[copper monolith]

400 is getting rerouted?

or not?

[undone mauve]

no i mean it'll basically be following the 400 from east grinstead to gatwick

[copper monolith]

cause ik 400 is metrobus's longest route

[undone mauve]

just avoiding crawley town centre

[undone mauve]

yup

[copper monolith]

total mileage of 400 is between 35 and 40 I think

[undone mauve]

damn

how longs the 272

[copper monolith]

idk

[undone mauve]

or 23

feel like they're good competitors

[copper monolith]

but still, journey times average 2 and a half hours on 400

[undone mauve]

eesh

[copper monolith]

full metrobus 20 cant use deckers

but idk why

10 easily can and of course sees DDs

[undone mauve]

might be some low bridge or smt somewhere

[copper monolith]

but 20 never sees them

500 will be deckers

[undone mauve]

pretty sure i saw an open topper tracking on the 20

[copper monolith]

expect more B9TLs to join metrobus

[undone mauve]

it'll have to be, unless they're cutting the uckfield to Eastbourne section to single deck

[undone mauve]

esp with those electroliners coming to b&h

[copper monolith]

Yes

Metrobus will go from scanias to B9TLs

a couple of B7RLEs recently got converted to single door

270 cant use 12m buses due to some tight turn somewhere

the B8RLEs are full length

not the shorter one

[undone mauve]

might be cuz of horsted keynes station

the bus has to do a full 3 point turn there

[copper monolith]

theyre the same length as the wrights

[undone mauve]

right

metrobus had a phase of putting eclipses on routes out of copthorne garage, might be for that

[copper monolith]

id say this
when 270 gets an allocation change in the late 2030s, its going to use E200EVs

well thats when I think 270s allocation would finally change

somewhere between 2035 and 2037

it will use MMCs first
then E200EVs

[undone mauve]

that's gna be quite a way away then

how long were the gb kite hydroliners? i remember one strayed onto the 270 a few months ago

[copper monolith]

theres a shorter batch of them

[undone mauve]

probably was that then

[copper monolith]

so I think its one of them

200 uses streetlites

[undone mauve]

200 always uses streetlites as far as i can tell

[copper monolith]

I wonder if 500 will overtake 400 to become metrobus longest route

[undone mauve]

100% will

[copper monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbwwcCAr2Ls
got a B9TL on the 200

was the only decker on it that day

would see if I could record 500 in the future

wonder if 500 will be half hourly?

or hourly

giving 400s section a 15 minute service

[undone mauve]

oh alr then

[copper monolith]

Im also thinking where 500 will start

as in in gatwick

north terminal or south terminal

[undone mauve]

im guessing north terminal

cuz its for workers and whatnot they said

[copper monolith]

yes

of course it would be for normal use

but 500 is just lengthy

gatwick to eastbourne

apparently its looping around forest row

but idk about this

hopefully some loans do 500 in the future

[undone mauve]

yeahh

im gna guess it'll be hourly, since the 261 was every 2 hours

[undone mauve]

it'll probably just follow the exact route of the 261 and 54

excluding a couple bits I'd guess

[copper monolith]

its not serving the manor park section of 54

wonder if there would be a new single deck bus route that serves manor park to replace 54 there

[civic sun]

400 nowhere near the length of 23 🤣

Journey time is not even over 2 hours as well, not 2hrs 30m

Also more like 25 miles than 40

[copper monolith]

when does this start

cant find starting dates

[fresh plank]

p sure 273s even longer then 400

[copper monolith]

oh

[undone mauve]

probably the 31

i can't imagine they'd put the 29 through there, makes it less direct

[undone mauve]

34 miles

route 23 sits at around 30 miles

[nimble seal]

29A?

[undone mauve]

it already goes a little out of the way to go into uckfield town centre, it would add 17 mins to the journey time

[karmic thorn]

Manor Park to get a rerouting of an existing route

Compass 31 is on the tables but not confirmed

[copper monolith]

cant tell when 500 starts

but I think its during summer

so maybe june?

[undone mauve]

my genius is almost frightening

[undone mauve]

I'd imagine

that's when it would be needed most I'd say

[dim spire]

no starting date is confirmed yet

[copper monolith]

Fair enough
But start date could be announced closer to summer