New TFL bus times displays confirmed

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They will begin rolling out Winter 2025 and are expected to be fully out on bus stops which previously had bus times displays by the end of 2027. Image for reference but not the final design.

[wise dove]

wtf

[tender sigil]

fair enough

[potent marlin]

That looks interesting

[wise dove]

such an ass design

use a different font

[latent ermine]

Yeah contract was won a couple days ago

[grave oyster]

havent they been there since 63 got EVs?

😭

[tender sigil]

are u stupid

message literally says

not final design

if only u read

[rugged niche]

To be fair why doesn’t every freestanding bus stop pole have this apart from one near Heathrow and along the 63 bus route

[grave oyster]

some bus stop in hayes has that as well

[wise dove]

idk what's wrong with the current bus time thing

[tender sigil]

it’s like the ibus inside the buses

[civic pasture]

the design still looks bad tho, freedom of speech gosh

[tender sigil]

has to be modernised

[latent ermine]

They want to implement E-Paper/LCD

They don't want to use LED matrixes anymore

[white cove]

They’ve always been there at some stops no?

[potent marlin]

Why tho

[grave oyster]

elephant & castle one is better thats ugly

[tender sigil]

wow

[dark jolt]

out fully on bus stops like every one??

[latent ermine]

Modernisation

[potent marlin]

Oh

[latent ermine]

Pretty much

[potent marlin]

Can they acc manage that

[dark jolt]

dang ok

[latent ermine]

Yeah the prototypes

[latent ermine]

Yeah contract was won for it

[potent marlin]

Damnn

[latent ermine]

Yeah and these will probably perform better with iBus 2

[potent marlin]

I like this

[grave oyster]

theyve always been a thing

ever since 63 got on at abellio and basically became tfls flagship route

[potent marlin]

Seen this type at peckham

[grave oyster]

they improved the bus stops

[potent marlin]

Ah

[hidden pier]

Only on 63 you will find them

[potent marlin]

Yh

[sage plinth]

This is a very nice and interesting concept

[potent marlin]

Ok

[hidden pier]

also how is some one complaing about it and calling that ugly whilst we have dot matrix displays

[sage plinth]

Mhm :))

[potent marlin]

[wise dove]

dot matrix displays r nice tho

[dark jolt]

dot matrix gets the job but its not the most glamorous modern thing in the world

[hidden pier]

The dot matrix has a high energy consumption TfL said some bs like that

[potent marlin]

Damn I didn't know

[latent ermine]

Also super outdated technology

[potent marlin]

That's fair

[hidden pier]

and ngl I’ve seen a lot of boards failing recently

[potent marlin]

Same

[hidden pier]

Man it’s about time

They haven’t changed since the red dot matrix displays

[distant crown]

that's been there for ages 💀

[potent marlin]

So this means the dot displays will go

[hidden pier]

Waterloo had one

[potent marlin]

It's a prototype

[hidden pier]

But removed it

[potent marlin]

I swr

[dark jolt]

at all the bus stops?

[hidden pier]

Croydon about time getting shelter and new LCD display

[tender sigil]

they won’t bother with croydon

[distant crown]

only a certain few bus stops have it around different places around london

[tender sigil]

shit will be smashed in within a minute

[dark jolt]

ive seen a few shelters return but no more dot matrixes

[potent marlin]

No way

[distant crown]

the new shelters are shit

[potent marlin]

When r they gonna start

[distant crown]

have you seen how tiny they are

[final pelican]

Even on hail and ride bus stops??

[hidden pier]

I saw the one in park street

[tender sigil]

it won’t be on every single bus stop served by tfl

[hidden pier]

Kinda small

[potent marlin]

What new shelters

[tender sigil]

only the key ones

on routes

[dark jolt]

the croydon ones that got ripped out

because the mayor of croydon got scammed

fuckin idiot

[final pelican]

fair enough

[hidden pier]

Like my area for example @final pelican

[potent marlin]

Wait what do the new shelters look like

[humble thunder]

ngl

e ink displays>>

[potent marlin]

Bus stop

[hidden pier]

Meant to be this

[dark jolt]

just the normal one

[tender sigil]

they look fine the hell

[potent marlin]

Oh

[hidden pier]

But it has a normal one

[ruby hill]

W

[final pelican]

Put those in Croydon they be gonna in two days

[dark jolt]

this type shi

[ruby hill]

oh that looks nice

[hidden pier]

I saw on the 63

[potent marlin]

Looks the same

[hidden pier]

It’s interactive

[tender sigil]

that looks nice

[hidden pier]

Ik my area getting it soon

[dark jolt]

yeah they just replaced the shelters that had been ripped out for 5 years

[final pelican]

Where did TfL find the funding for this when they can’t even give operators good enough contracts to run their services

[potent marlin]

Ohk

[hidden pier]

Clapham park replacing all it shelters with high tech e-paper shelter

[dark jolt]

wdym

[hidden pier]

My area is investing unlike Croydon how got scanmed

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Not every stop

[final pelican]

These in central would be good anywhere else no

[dark jolt]

PVR increases are happening left right and centre for reliability

[hidden pier]

Bruh what’s important the passenger experience

[final pelican]

Cheap contracts useless projects like rebranding the overground etc

[hidden pier]

You can’t put everything in one basket with other issues growing @final pelican

[dark jolt]

that was a oneoff project and it cost less than what the 196 tendered for

[hidden pier]

That make no senee

[final pelican]

true but thy have bigger fish to fry than rebuilding all bus shelters (not all but u get it)

[hidden pier]

No

No

No

If you don’t upgrade now

They will regret

[dark jolt]

cheap and easy win tbh

[hidden pier]

As price are getting more expensive

[final pelican]

I guess true

[hidden pier]

If u leave it for later

No one will be satisfied

[dark jolt]

yh its gotta be done eventually

[final pelican]

Yeah true

How long have the current ones served London for

[hidden pier]

Cheap contract are working if you think about what TfL just went through

Remember TfL is franchise not funded by the government

[hidden pier]

Since 08

Bascially when the ibus came out

[dark jolt]

tf

[potent marlin]

😭

[hidden pier]

[potent marlin]

It was at the 60 terminus

[final pelican]

south London core

[potent marlin]

[humble thunder]

that still there?

[hidden pier]

Yes

[humble thunder]

Are the e ink ones still around

[hidden pier]

All the size

[hidden pier]

Not sure

[civic pasture]

flippin ipad

[hidden pier]

They might keep this in central or any bus station in London

Cause having that in let’s say bexley is not gonna last

[potent marlin]

That makes sense

[ruby hill]

thats insane wtf

[potent marlin]

Actually?

[hidden pier]

I’ve been thinking why hasn’t London done this

Or these two

Instead of a stupid large white and blue background and text

[bright swift]

No way that’s fully rolling out

Imagine them building that in some random area in Bromley

Kmt

[hidden pier]

Anywhere in Bromley don’t deserve that

[bright swift]

Thamesmead and erith as well

[latent ermine]

Only the displays

[bright swift]

Too much tech for an area that will find a way to steal it

[latent ermine]

We'll see once they actually start putting them on stops

[latent ermine]

Basically replacing all already existing matrix ones

iBus 2 is rolling out later than these displays 🥀

[ruby hill]

or in a random Havering place

[hidden pier]

Anything past Camberwell doesn’t need it

Kingston Town tho

Ealing

Needs it

[ruby hill]

places like NG, Stratford (oh God), CW defo need it

[hidden pier]

Don’t even have dot matrix displays

[ruby hill]

unfortunately they'd get destroyed in Stratford in a matter of 5 seconds

[hidden pier]

Any places with a bus station expect Grove Park

Grove Park can fuck off

[gritty pilot]

grove park aint even a bus station its js stands

[gritty pilot]

anywhere in newham tbf

[hidden pier]

Kingston bus station needs it asap

A beg they upgrade Fairfield as well

Been the same since the 80s

[latent ermine]

It already has new displays

Cromwell at least

[hidden pier]

On the bus stops?

[latent ermine]

Nah on the wall

[hidden pier]

The only place in Kingston

[hidden pier]

Not good enough

[latent ermine]

Fairfield is cooked

[hidden pier]

I swear they don’t even display 111/285 standa

Not one place in Kingston other than the bus station have bus countdowns

[bright swift]

Real

[bright swift]

Drag

P13 needs it?😭

[wise dove]

all the stops have the dot matrix

[ruby hill]

probably just east london in general

[fading pendant]

They already have

[bright swift]

Yikes

[fading pendant]

Yh

There's some in E&C

[earnest basin]

you think ? 😭

i personally dont think so

[teal roost]

another way to waste money at every possible opportunity

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they should only be at major bus stops imo

[ancient bridge]

Say goodbye to the yellow disruption paper! (Well in 25 years time when the last stops become digitalised)

[humble thunder]

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[teal roost]

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[tender sigil]

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[open sail]

Yeah surely this project takes ages

Like some of the 465 bus stops or something are never getting digitalised

[fading pendant]

R5 and R10 at Knockholt

They won't be done

Surely

[humble thunder]

london has over 19000 bus stops it just doesn't seem logical enough to be replacing them all

[ancient echo]

well some 465 stops arent even TFL stops so i assume those wont be done

[earnest basin]

same with some 142/258/292 stops

[twilit monolith]

That's why the change is set to happen from a 2 year timespan bro 😭😭

Besides it's not going to be all of them

Like rural stops

Or shelters that already have an advanced countdown screen

[tender sigil]

get told @humble thunder

[twilit monolith]

Can you stop instigating it 💀

[tender sigil]

this is what i do sorry

[humble thunder]

Still too short

[humble thunder]

oh yeah the ones outside ldn

[devout anvil]

only in waterloo and sloane square

[tender sigil]

get told @twilit monolith

[tender sigil]

Can you stop instigating it 💀