GY DWs to be replaced by Ts

[light bone]

L

[long arch]

Ts from where tho 🤔

[light bone]

Not sure where exactly but will be confirmed soon

[timber lance]

LOL

[fierce crown]

Those DWs are the only Euro 4 ones in london too

Shame

[gloomy idol]

I thought GY was getting hybrids for 66 103 and 370

[fierce crown]

They are

They just want to get rid of the DWs quicker

[runic parrot]

☠️

[wanton crane]

Yeah cause of how shit they are @bitter dragon

[gloomy idol]

Ah ok

[light bone]

He’s not gonna be happy yours are staying and his are going

[wanton pasture]

Ah ok

[wanton crane]

Yeah

[gloomy idol]

Good. DX is next

[wanton crane]

E never

[gloomy idol]

121 disel contract

So they staying

[solid moon]

deserved

[arctic ginkgo]

disel?

[solid moon]

finally those delusional east londoners can shut their mouth about those DWs for once

[light bone]

😹👎🏽

[fierce crown]

😕

Now the question lays

Where will the Ts come from

[fierce flax]

is there even a source

[wanton crane]

You mean just @bitter dragon

[solid moon]

nah

everyone who prefers forward door alx400s to regular ones

[wanton crane]

W3 279 idk

[solid moon]

they all need a few sprays of this

[wanton crane]

276 glaze 😭

@cloud thunder

[vital grove]

Should be Ts from 289

[fierce crown]

No east londoner glazes 276

We know its mid and boring

ALX400 glaze is valid tho

[tardy estuary]

L

[tardy estuary]

Directed at @bitter dragon

And @cloud thunder

[fierce crown]

Forward door ALX400s were cool ngl

[tardy estuary]

They were the default for me

[fierce crown]

Only for stagecoach

[solid moon]

people who like forward door alx400s only like them for nostalgia

[tardy estuary]

Yh cos i didn’t live near any other operators ALX400s

[solid moon]

if u werent local to them u have no reason to like them

they're just ugly

[tardy estuary]

Meh i was used to them

I defo preferred the euro 2s with bonded windows tho

[errant shell]

Ts from where

[tardy estuary]

Probs W3

[solid moon]

probably a mix of 217 289 and W3

[tardy estuary]

217 289 💀

[buoyant salmon]

this thread stinks of bus wankerds

wankers

[tardy estuary]

This whole server does

[wanton crane]

Where the fuck did you get 217 from

They haven't even got blinded buses on the route

[solid moon]

is metroline not- oh wait nvm

mb i forgot 217 was later

[hot wasp]

i hope it’s all the shit ones from 279

[wanton crane]

This silly west london

[wanton crane]

Real

[cloud thunder]

what kind of silly info is this

[fathom tulip]

Keep the DAF Wrights at that point.

[bitter dragon]

🤣

source where

[bitter dragon]

they ratio ur dead E ones by a mile

it’s not even close

[wanton crane]

Dead yeah

[bitter dragon]

yes

dead

[wanton crane]

At least ours sound like a dw and not a open pipe scania

[bitter dragon]

DW239 and 206 sound better than all of yours

[wanton crane]

Are you sure pal

[silent anchor]

You sure?

276 is defo glazed because of the BZLs

And it used to use E200s so thats already a big reason why

[fierce crown]

Nobody glazes 276

[silent anchor]

Well maybe not discord

[fierce crown]

I mean nobody in east london

[silent anchor]

But youtube

[silent anchor]

Fairs

[fierce crown]

Ye only youtube with those u13 veg

[cloud thunder]

YX61 galore

[tardy estuary]

Vnewl

[tardy estuary]

YX60 better

[cloud thunder]

if they're SE47/48 then yeah

[tardy estuary]

East london glaze is crazy

SE77/78 is better

[neat helm]

W

[cloud thunder]

T’s from where?

GY is just DW’s

Literally nothing else apart from two e200s

So that’s gonna take a lot of T’s to replace DW’s

[bitter dragon]

word

gonna need to replace a hefty 46

[red briar]

I think it’s only 66

The route

[gloomy idol]

If it is its gonna stray off onto 103. 370 and 375

[cloud thunder]

No

66 & 103

Asw as 370

[storm sage]

So if Ts are coming to GY, what will they be?

[runic parrot]

they'll probably be from the routes which are getting EVs

279 289 maybe 194

[red briar]

Probably the ones from 64 and W3 too

Not all used up

[gloomy idol]

wdym

[storm sage]

I was looking at the title and I thought GY will get hybrids not diesel E400s

frogs most likely

[gloomy idol]

apparently they want to get rid of DWs

[storm sage]

oh

but they're nice

Had a ride on DW215 on the 370

sounded alright

[gloomy idol]

but Arriva and GY think they are shit

[storm sage]

but why would they want to get rid of DWs?
Arriva took good care of those DB300s

[gloomy idol]

buses arent even blinded

they have to put 103 White Blank

[storm sage]

could they send them to another arriva depot or not?

[gloomy idol]

bc they arent even blinded

[storm sage]

(as in kent)

[gloomy idol]

no

or maybe idk

up to TFL to decide

[storm sage]

what if that LJ51 was to be replaced at some point?
another DB300 to TW (but older)?

[gloomy idol]

whats LJ51?

unless u mean LJ61 @storm sage

[storm sage]

LJ51 B7TL

in Tunbridge Wells

6127

[gloomy idol]

ah

Probs some E400 from somewhere in the UK

those DWs will probably be scrapped

Not worth Keeping them in my opinion

they terrible

[storm sage]

so what do you think about GYs DWs?

[gloomy idol]

they're shit

Unreliable

Not even blinded

properly

Stiff Blinds

[storm sage]

ive even seen a DW with a rear blind left white blank

manual blinds

[gloomy idol]

Drivers complaining they want to get rid of those DWs

cool

[storm sage]

They're alright when driving

[gloomy idol]

If the drivers are complaning then they not wanna keep it

[storm sage]

however, changing the blinds is a real problem for them

[gloomy idol]

they are getting Ts for now until they find Suitable Hybrids

same goes to DX

[storm sage]

what about 243s HVs?

[gloomy idol]

probably go onto 150/175

[storm sage]

wait
150s Ts are going too?

[gloomy idol]

retained with Hybrids

Most likley Volvo G3 B5LH

[storm sage]

341 is getting BZLs

[gloomy idol]

yh

[storm sage]

wonder what arriva will fleet code them as

[gloomy idol]

i swear either 341 or 243 is going to stagecoach

[storm sage]

DVE?

idk

[gloomy idol]

probably not

[gloomy idol]

Sounds like something RATP would name it

[storm sage]

EV?

so we have HV for hybrid volvo

so electric volvo?

or ELV Electric London Volvo?

wait a second

[gloomy idol]

GAL has EL1e

[storm sage]

thats sullivan

ELectroliner

[gloomy idol]

Sullivan 'Commercial'

[storm sage]

yes ik

but still

would EV or ELV work for Arrivas BZLs?

[gloomy idol]

EV just no

ELV will confuse with Sullivan

[storm sage]

imagine if it was "BZL"
then if arriva got single deck BZLs, BZS?

[gloomy idol]

ELV4e for example

[storm sage]

BZL Singledeck

[gloomy idol]

some people would type in ELV4

[storm sage]

and it comes up with sullivan's ELV4 instead

then EV is also with Dublin Bus

Volvo B9TL E400s

though thats a different story

[gloomy idol]

Probs something like ALV

[storm sage]

why didnt anyone go with MVH?

[gloomy idol]

Ex-Tower Transit

[storm sage]

whats ALV?
Arriva London Volvo?

[gloomy idol]

yes

[storm sage]

but

[gloomy idol]

probably thats what arriva would go for

[storm sage]

what would single deck BZLs be if arriva were to order those?

also Ive noticed a trend now
apart from ADL, almost all new single deck buses has seats behind the driver

(as in behind the front doors)

[gloomy idol]

yes

yh

not volvo that im aware off

apart from Stagecoach B5LH MMCS and GAL EHVs

[storm sage]

wait how?
I thought the BZls have front seats like on the 276

im talking about single deckers not double deckers

[gloomy idol]

not the dobule deck version

[storm sage]

double deckers are a different version

Im only talking about single decks

[gloomy idol]

only 251/276 (some other metroline route) have it

[storm sage]

will we see more single deck BZLs or will they be overshadowed by kites?

[gloomy idol]

probably both

[storm sage]

Think the most dominant single deck EV (not the E200EV BYD cause thats another story) will be the E100EV in the future

10.8m I think

[gloomy idol]

E400EV is for SL3 apparently

coz LTs are shit and unreliable

[storm sage]

wait
if thats the case

then will the 1000 LTs get replaced by BD11s?

and maybe E400EVs?

[gloomy idol]

they repeatedley breach the Hybrid contracy

[gloomy idol]

maybe but again may be replaced by either Hybrid or new electric

[storm sage]

55 would do ok with a full E40H allocation

what if old buses returned to london lol (as in ALX400s in tfl service)
Wont happen obvs

[tardy estuary]

Nah nah i think it will

[storm sage]

so back to the subject of GY's alleged Ts to replace DWs until HVs (or whatever the next hybrids will be) arrive

So the blinds are very stiff

you would need to pull hard just to turn the dest blind

[wanton crane]

not in london so it doesnt matter

[gloomy idol]

good