Training Gear: Digimon Link Pendulum 1.5 | Nurture Train Battle

[dusky birch]

thanks for heads up

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #60 - 32)

[trim pivot]

Yes, Digimon Link builds upon and adds to the stock firmware without taking anything away. The core functions and everything you can do on the VH you can do on Digimon Link.

Core logic, Evolution Mechanics, compatibility with Vital Bracelet Arena, Battling DIMS both stock and modded. All the same.

[proud pond]

hello, Can I use an SD card adapter to use the module? I ended up buying the wrong module, I didn't pay attention to whether it was a microSD. came the adapter module. 😭

[dim magnet]

Regular SD, no

[proud pond]

😩

[floral herald]

Hi there! I recently upgraded to the Link Gear and am worried what the "sleepy" status means. As someone who works nights (meaning I'm most active during the night) and currently have the "sleepy" status on my Digimon, am worried that it is detrimental in a way. Would I have to change the time on my VH (making the watch part useless) to get around it, or is it nothing to worry about?

[dim magnet]

It currently doesn't do anything. There will be some mechanics in the future that uses it, but it has been designed with night shift workers in mind

[floral herald]

That's comforting to hear. At least me and my Digimon will have something in common at work.

[finite garden]

Caffeine items for sleepy Digimon confirmed 🤣
Jokes aside I love it when Cyanic says stuff like this which translates into a unused feature is about to be made useful or interesting.

[trim pivot]

Haha, just to clarify, the sleepy status icon was never a useless feature. While I appreciate Cyanic’s answer and his work on this project, saying it doesn’t do anything, could unintentionally give the wrong impression, the same one just shared above, that it’s useless, which doesn’t accurately reflect what the sleep status is intended to do or the care put into Digimon Link.

I’m the designer of Digimon Link's original new mechanics, which Cyanic wonderfully translates into code. I planned out each feature with intention, and nothing was added without considerable thought. Originally, I designed the sleepy status with a penalty in mind for not putting your Digimon to sleep. We later removed that idea, in the agreement that it could be frustrating for night shift players.

Even without a gameplay effect, I decided to keep the Sleepy status emoji as not only a callback to the Vpets but as a way to add immersion, another brick in the wall of making the Digimon feel more engaging and alive. I believe, in the end, that while it doesn’t have a mechanical function, like the Sleep room wallpaper, the sleepy status adds a touch of warmth to the overall feel of Digimon Link. That’s its current purpose, and a handful of players have even mentioned the cozy charm it adds.

Immersion and storytelling is a significant part of design and it must be valued in the greater picture of things.

Since then, while working on ver. 2, I’ve had inspiration for a new planned mechanic that will give the sleepy status a new added and engaging purpose. One that will not cause any frustration for either night shift workers or regular players.

[candid thistle]

Honestly even if the sleepy status currently has no function I like it specifically for immersion. I find it very cute that the Digimon becomes sleepy after a certain hour and the sleep room is legit one of my favourite original backgrounds

Super comfy and cute

I'm currently back on the BE to test the VB Helper and I seriously miss the cozy mood of the Digimon link

[lunar lantern]

i think it might be way to much to ask for, but maybe a digimon could get used to the sleep schedule you give it, slowly shifting the time until it alligns with the night shift workers hours

[dim magnet]

Saving settings is a tricky thing because space for that is preallocated and most of the logic regarding saving it is in ROM, so so far most of the new variables are not persisted, and the few that are planned to be have to go into NFC. Not sure there's space to add something like that.

[lunar lantern]

ah damn, i knew i was dreaming too big 😅

[teal dune]

Is it normal that adventure mode resets every time? For example I’ve completed adventure mode in the Pulse City DIM and when I tried to raise a new Digimon the adventure mode was back at Stage one.

[dim magnet]

Yes

The app is supposed to sync adventure progress between characters of the same Dim, but it doesn't. The old app did.

[teal dune]

Ohh ok, thanks for the confirmation bro

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@teal dune has evolved into Baby II!

[prisma meteor]

definitely will be checking out this mod once we finish sorting out vh support in vb helper, just read through the manual and it adds a lot of content

[ornate hedge]

Where can I download this program?

[prisma meteor]

pins

oh my bad

it's called dim modifier, it's on github

[dim magnet]

Maybe pins in #modding_vpets

[trim pivot]

To use that long distance VS DIM battle method you need the Mr. Blinky's DIM tool program found in the Pins of #modding_vpets

The program let's you write over and save DIM BIN files unto the computer which is what you'll need if you want to exchange VS DIM files online.

If you were talking about the program for modding over DIMS then, as mentioned above it's Cfogrady's DIM modifier which can also be found In the modding section.

[lunar lantern]

wait so if this isnt working how its supposed to, does any digimon set to unlock after the last adventure mission become unobtainable?

unless the setting is changed of course

[prisma meteor]

if you don't send the character back into the watch you will keep it unlocked

[dim magnet]

The unlock sticks around

[trim pivot]

Trophy Power also a way

[prisma meteor]

oh?

[dim magnet]

When people have problems with the unlock after transferring on the app, it's because the app also doesn't sync that data and overwrites it with an older one instead of just merging

[trim pivot]

Yes, Like Naca said to, if you keep the Digimon on the watch and have a Digimon from the same DIM as active the progress will stay.

[lunar lantern]

ahh ok that makes sense

[eager harbor]

@lunar lantern has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[lunar lantern]

i wonder how tbey messed that up, i remember it working fine for bems

[trim pivot]

Also, Like I said. If you have a perfect / ultimate that you just want to evolve to the unlocked Digimon. Trophy train it and it'll be strong enough to 1 hit KO the end boss after awhile

[dim magnet]

On the BE the unlocks and adventure progress are stored in flash, and the NFC data is only a view. On VB the NFC data is the source of truth. There's probably also some knowledge that did not get transferred from the old app team when a new company was developing VB Arena

[lunar lantern]

if only they handled it more professionaly, i never got to use the old app or the online pvp on the new one even, but the old app shouldnt even have left

[vast trout]

ahh, this evening's ramping up

[trim pivot]

Development for the update reached a major milestone today, and I’m excited to reveal the working title for the next Digimon Link release:

Project: Real Monster

This update will greatly expand the fun, cozy, and engaging experiences you’ve been enjoying these past two months, all while preserving the core gameplay VB players have come to love.

This leg of the project has been made possible by a mysterious investor who has joined me in funding development. In the next teaser, I’ll reveal who he is.

As before, I’m the founder, game architect, and project manager. Cyanic is our technical lead, handling code implementation.

While we’ve been calling this an “update,” the reality is that what’s coming is closer to a Version 2, an evolution and the next step for Training Gear: Digimon Link.

I can’t wait to share the next reveal 🔥

[prisma meteor]

did you get rid of special missions in the training for the mod?

[dim magnet]

The menu is not accessible, but it should still work in the background

[prisma meteor]

oh i see

any chance to bring back that menu in the future?

[dim magnet]

Maybe. I have to change up the training menu for the next version anyway

[prisma meteor]

oh awesome then

oh yeah i see them working in the background, awesome then

[finite garden]

Ohh can't wait!

[trim pivot]

Ya, a new section called Coach took over Special Missions. I originally wanted to keep special missions as well as Coach as I've been following the progress of VB Helper since February and I wanted to help branch all the VB ecosystems with everyone.

Because of production limitations we had to write over Special Missions.
But, like I said before. I personally would love to have it back.. something like " Helper Connect" We have a small chunk left and space is running out lol. But we'll see what we can do

[prisma meteor]

it doesn't matter, since i'm gonna be adding a way to see the special missions currently ongoing in the app

[trim pivot]

Ah, then we'll just keep it as it is then.

[teal jackal]

Very excited for version 2, thanks for all the hard work you two

[cyan geyser]

Super excited to see what's next!

[woven stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736008350076240172/1388846909330030743/image0.gif

[lunar lantern]

W'S ALL ROUND

[red knoll]

Hola, alguien sabe cómo se pueden modificar las DIM Card BE?

[dim magnet]

#modding_vpets pins

[red knoll]

algún tutorial?

[teal jackal]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but during some reps the device made a long low tone as it was trying to make the beep for a successful rep a couple of times. Nothing major and everything still works (and maybe you fixed it for v2 already), just wanted to let you guys know.

[dim magnet]

Happens in stock firmware as well

[teal jackal]

Ah, all good then, thank you

[finite garden]

Is there any update that gets around the VS issue where only certain ID's display correctly in the works?
0, 1, 2, 3
5, 7, 8, 9
12, 13, 14, 15
19, 20, 21, 22
27, 28, 31

[dim magnet]

No

[finite garden]

Is this likely to be just a limitation we have to live with?

[dim magnet]

It can be fixed, but it's a bit messy and not high priority

[finite garden]

Thanks for that confirmation.
As you state its not a big deal as we know what ones work and if not a quick easy fix time would be better spent else where.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 531)

[finite garden]

With all the tinkering you guys have been doing, has anything come up that could be used as a Psuedo Poop/Mistake status?

This bits just what's I'd like rather than based on facts.
Ideally I'd see this as a if ignored you drop a trophy but im guessing the closet might be a status that drops vitals while active.
Maybe the auto heal can be used to wipe it?

[trim pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-never-tell-i'll-never-talk-don't-talk-transformers-bumble-bee-gif-8965279545893593327

[worldly escarp]

Is there a way to install this without DIM modification hardware cuz I don't own any and have no idea how much it would cost to own such hardware. And, I also would be scared to attempt to mod my Vital Hero for fear of either electrocuting myself or short circuiting DIMs or literally making any mistake that could render my DIMs or bracelet no longer usable or as the Nintendo Homebrew calls it.... bricked.

[dim magnet]

No, the only way to install is through a Dim. Technically you can also flash it to the VB's flash chip directly, but that is more difficult and still requires roughly the same amount of equipment.

[worldly escarp]

Welp, guess I'll have to earn some money to acquire that strange equipment and muster up the courage to attempt to mod my bracelet despite the fear of electrocution or bricking my hardware.

Are those even risks I should be worried about?

[dim magnet]

Once you've got the Dim flashed, it's very unlikely for you to break anything

It operates basically the same as any other Dim, just that it's got some funky software on there that you don't really need to worry about the details of

[worldly escarp]

And, the electrocution concern?

[dim magnet]

Unlikely if you check your connections. You also don't connect to the VB directly, so you don't really have to worry about damaging the device

[worldly escarp]

Or damaging myself?

[dim magnet]

Well the good thing is you don't have to be holding any devices. Once you've confirmed your connection, it's just plugging it into your computer

[worldly escarp]

Cuz there is no casing around that tool at all.

[dim magnet]

It's low voltage. If you're not handling it with wet hands, you'll probably be fine

[worldly escarp]

Understood. How does one acquire such a dubious tool?

[dim magnet]

Amazon

[worldly escarp]

Ah.

Uh, what should I search to find it?

I don't know what that thing is called.

[dim magnet]

Check the manual in the download

[worldly escarp]

Ok. Never modded a VH before.

[dim magnet]

Preferably you get a good quality flash programmer. CH347 is acceptable, avoid CH341a for new builds

[worldly escarp]

Uhhhhhhh.... Ok.

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@worldly escarp has evolved into Baby I!

[worldly escarp]

Good to know, Ig.

[worldly escarp]

Also, I know this seller because he mods DIMs and I've bought at least 2 from him, but he put this up for sale recently. Could I possibly also install it this way or is it unsafe?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/388697218418?epid=16055659789&itmmeta=01K2B6F53GYSQX12CNG732T65A&hash=item5a8028dd72:g:~o8AAeSw14BocZg7

[dim magnet]

Oh great it's that guy. I'm pretty sure they're not authorized to sell the mod

[worldly escarp]

Ah. Did I get scammed when I bought his products, then?

Cuz I got a Viral Claws and Custom Renamon GP from him in the past.

And, so far, the Renamon GP appears to work fine on my bracelet. Idk about the Viral Claws one, tho.

[dim magnet]

If that's who I think it is, they're not in good standing with the community

There's some misinformation and false advertising on that listing

And it doesn't say whether you get the Dim that installed the mod. It's essential that you have it, because without it you can't restore to stock or do any updates

[worldly escarp]

Oh.

I previously bought this from him.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387905740527\

[dim magnet]

Expect most of their stuff to be pirated

[worldly escarp]

I'm familiar with that due to emulating games from other consoles on my PC and modding my Wii. Well, haven't finished Wiiflow yet, but getting there.

DIM piracy probably isn't the same as game piracy, but I'm familiar with the concept.

[rigid linden]

Its more like there are artists like Aderek who've made custom dims and paywalled them, and this guy is writing those to dim cards and selling them himself

[dim magnet]

The simple way to put it is you're paying someone for something that is free and fairly low-cost for you to set up on your own, and the original creators are not seeing any money from that sale.

Should probably slap a "if you paid for this you got scammed" screen that's relatively common in the emulation community.

[worldly escarp]

Fair enough. Worst case scenario if what I've purchased so far ends up not working properly or causing issues for me, I'll request a refund.

[rigid linden]

If possible Id cancel those orders and just look at a dim programmer if you dont wanna build one. https://ko-fi.com/bazjo/shop

[dim magnet]

You're really better off just getting the hardware necessary due to the aforementioned inability to update if they don't give you the installation Dim

And even if they do, you'd still need that stuff to actually write an update to the Dim

[worldly escarp]

Right.

[worldly escarp]

I've already purchased them a sort of long time ago. So, it might be too late now.

[dim magnet]

I would seriously consider cancelling, because there is an update in development

[worldly escarp]

Mb. I didn't buy this yet.

I meant I bought a Custom Renamon GP from him and Viral Claws (Meicoomon) from him already.

Those might be too late to return if they are actually a scam.

[dim magnet]

They might work, just don't buy any more stuff from this guy, because the original artists are probably not getting paid

[worldly escarp]

Alright.

[trim pivot]

No we aren't. The seller messaged me 3 weeks ago about wanting to sell it and said "he'd credit us" no mention of actually giving us a cut of the profit. I told him no, Digimon Link isn't for sale

Funny thing is, he spelled my name wrong on the description

[dim magnet]

He didn't even credit you properly, probably in an attempt to not get noticed

[worldly escarp]

Can't make any promises about the Fallen Angel DIM since I do want Gatomon, but I'll leave that Hardware Upgrade DIM alone.

[dim magnet]

IIRC Fallen Angel is probably a Chinese bootleg that you can get on AliExpress

[hushed niche]

considering the DiM was made by someone here on the discord, it absolutely is.

[worldly escarp]

I've seen an Angemon one on there, but I wasn't interested in it.

[dim magnet]

Speaking of AliExpress, the devices are real, but it's a crapshoot whether the Dims are. I imagine there's going to be proportionally more fake ones than real ones due to the series being out of print for many months (maybe a year now)

[worldly escarp]

Also, Bandai doesn't make DIMs anymore anyways. And, honestly, the only way you can acquire DIMs is online on Amazon and eBay.

Because they're rare as heck these days.

[dim magnet]

Personally at this point I don't care if people buy genuine Dims or not, but try not to support people who actively rip off fan artists.

[worldly escarp]

Plus, the official ones don't all have Digimon I'm interested in anyways.

[worldly escarp]

Ok. Tbh, I was mainly just gonna buy modded DIMs from RFT.

Cause I don't trust myself with a literal circuit board.

Heck! I don't even trust myself with taking apart my 3DS to repair it myself!

[dim magnet]

Many people have set it up before. I don't think you'll have that much trouble

[worldly escarp]

Even if I could, where the heck would I get the sprites from to make my own Meicoomon DIM if I wanted to, for example?

[dim magnet]

And as previously mentioned, you can just buy a premade programmer

There's a lot of sprites around. Check #modding_vpets

[trim pivot]

It's no trouble at all. And if you absolutely don't want to assemble buy a pre assembled Programmer from Bazjo
https://ko-fi.com/s/8627dd37e4

[worldly escarp]

Ok, that looks waaaaaaaaay safer than the circuit board without a casing on it.

[eager harbor]

@worldly escarp has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[worldly escarp]

Also, is that person on eBay or Amazon cuz I've never used Kofi, so I have no idea what that currency is.

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@worldly escarp has evolved into Baby II!

[dim magnet]

Ko-fi generally accepts payment via PayPal, and I think maybe Stripe?

The currency is Euro, but if you have a credit card it should be able to do foreign currency transactions. PayPal can also do currency conversions

[worldly escarp]

Ugh. Stripe. One of the payment processor companies that tried to censor gaming. Unless they change their ways, I think I'll pass on them.😒

A shame, too, cuz I was gonna use their service to sell my own API to generate passive income, but nvm now.

[dim magnet]

I just clicked and apparently Stripe is not an option here

[worldly escarp]

Good.

I'm not supporting them till they become pro consumer again.

[trim pivot]

Just for legal reasons, cough Bandai, if you're looking, cough, this is proof I didn't give my consent to sell the mod.

Yeah, if you guys see him on Reddit, his shop name is RareFineTrading, but he goes by Flywolf.

[worldly escarp]

Why would Bandai even care about the VB series? They don't even support it anymore.

[trim pivot]

Money is money, they dropped the series but they won't let someone pirate loads of money off their intellectual property

Chances are he'll get away with it unless he starts making tons of money from it

Like tens or hundreds of thousands

Or if Bandai decides to start acting like Nintendo

[worldly escarp]

Well, if they do start acting anti consumer, then in all honesty, I won't give a dang if they get money from me or not.

[dim magnet]

You should probably worry more about the people ripping off artists

[trim pivot]

That's the main thing

[worldly escarp]

Fan artists, sure. That I can understand.

[trim pivot]

He stole from both of us.

[worldly escarp]

Understandable. Out of respect for y'all, I won't buy the hardware upgrade.

Cuz I can tell y'all tryna keep the VBs alive and from what I can tell so far, y'all don't seem to be anti consumer.

So, I respect y'all until proven otherwise.

Also, couldn't y'all just threaten him to take it down?

[trim pivot]

I did just message him but the best threat to him is to threaten his money, if people stop buying because of his dubious behavior. That's the threat. That's why you and everyone else not supporting him financially is important.

Otherwise he's being encouraged to steal.

[worldly escarp]

Best I can do is convince him to take it down or offer it for free or I'll leave a negative review warning future buyers that he wasn't given consent to sell the mod in addition to stopping support with him.

Despite knowing that I may never get a modded Gatomon DIM. TwT

A sacrifice that must be made unfortunately.

Cuz y'all deserve the support y'all getting.

And, while I have nothing against the guy for now, I do want him to do the right thing and not be like the greedy corpos.

[trim pivot]

Ya, greed can make people do some wild things sadly, and I appreciate that. That's awesome and really the honest way to live life.
Also, I if you do leave a message, I wouldn't encourage him to list it for free. He should just take it down. Especially since he undermined Digimon Link's original authorship by giving it another title and name.

[rigid linden]

If you get the dim programmer you dont need to buy a gatomon dim. There are fan dims you can write to a dim card

[worldly escarp]

Tbh, me stopping support with him might have a big impact on his decision considering we were being "buddy buddy" with each other when I was chatting with him about the previous DIM I bought from him and the risks of using it and stuff like that.

[trim pivot]

The only places I consent, as the original Commisoner of the Mod for Digimon Link to be shared publicly is Here and on the CIM Discord under Cyanic and I's supervision.

[worldly escarp]

Right.

[finite garden]

@worldly escarp ive PM you. The Custom CIM Discord has this kind of stuff covered and your find alot of the fan made customs there for free. There is an effort to make templates for all the missing Digimon that is going on nicely.

But yeah when it comes to the Mods always go directly to the source and follow their instructions or you can get issues. Like the makers have said here there is a Back up process you need your own Programmer tool to do that will help if you get any issues or if want to upgrade to the next fancy secret update.

[candid thistle]

I'm very ignorant on assembling stuff myself so I bought that pre assembled one. I highly recommend it, works very well with no issues.

[finite garden]

Agreed I pve been using mine for years now with no issues.

[trim pivot]

Here's a heads up on the drama last night. I had a conversation with Flywolf and to his credit he has since removed the listing with the unauthorized Digimon Link Firmware. Thanks to Just a Greninja for notifying us.

[worldly escarp]

I don't think it's over yet. He hasn't taken action on that listing. Allow me to attempt to persuade him.

[finite garden]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/388697218418?epid=16055659789&itmmeta=01K2B6F53GYSQX12CNG732T65A&hash=item5a8028dd72:g:~o8AAeSw14BocZg7

This one?

[worldly escarp]

Yes. That should be it.

[worldly escarp]

Also, the whole making modded DIMs thing still confuses me or overwhelms me. Mostly cuz I would probably need to either buy physical DIMs, then mod them. Or figure out how to 3D print the official shells and tech that Bandai is using to make my own. Even if I wanted to mod my own, I don't have the physical resources to do so. I don't even have the money to buy those resources rn. At most, all I've got are the necessary files and software I was told to download for the Training Gear mod and that's it.

[prisma meteor]

Bazjo sells empty dims

Look in that kofi

[worldly escarp]

Ah. Never used Kofi before and I don't have a PayPal. Do they take USD?

[dim magnet]

PayPal can do currency conversions for you, and an account is not strictly required

Even if it didn't do currency conversion, most credit cards can do foreign currency transactions

[trim pivot]

Also, If you have a VH it comes with two cards. Both can be re written over as many times as you want. The important thing is you save your modded DIM data and Digimon Link restore file on a PC

[worldly escarp]

Ok.

[wicked ridge]

Wait are we supposed to dedicate a dim to each mod? I've been using my vs memory for everything and switching the file on it. 👁️ 👄 👁️

[dim magnet]

As long as you do a backup it's fine

[trim pivot]

Nope, you're doing exactly as I said above

which is ok*

[worldly escarp]

Y'all gonna have to put through a crash course for the DIM modding part, but for the Training Gear mod, I think I should be fine. XD

[trim pivot]

lol, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uS9WG9ep44&t=214s
Dtathemes made an informative tutorial video, It can get you used to the process and what it looks like

[worldly escarp]

Thx. Also, could I also just buy this?

https://ko-fi.com/s/ddc17a6052

[prisma meteor]

Ye

[worldly escarp]

Alright.

[worldly escarp]

Also, where can I get CH347 if CH341a isn't good to ise for new updates?

[dim magnet]

Amazon, AliExpress

[worldly escarp]

Ok. Thx.

By any chance does bazjo sell stuff on Amazon or maybe Etsy?

Ig AliExpress is fine, too.

[prisma meteor]

In Etsy they do

I don't have the link

[worldly escarp]

Ok, cool. No need. I'll find him myself.

And, uh, not sure if I can bring this up or not, but RFT has done more than stolen the Digimon Link mod.😅

Apparently, he's stolen other creators' DIM bin files.

I recognize a couple on his listings.

[worldly escarp]

@cloud flame

[cloud flame]

going to read the thread

thanks

[worldly escarp]

You're welcome, my dude.

[worldly escarp]

In the case of Aderek, I'm wrong about this. As for the others, I'm not yet sure.

Out of respect for Ade, tho, I'mma just purchase any cust DIMs he made directly from him instead of RFT.

[trim pivot]

That's the best plan. I mean, even if Aderek did agree for his DIMs, the fact of the matter is Flywolf went against my wishes and consent for the use of Digimon Link and is making a profit off it without care to compensate Cyanic and I for our hard work.
So even if it's just us he's stealing from, that's enough, but with that said if Flywolf would do that that us, who knows who else he's done it to or plans to. Best to leave that seller alone

[worldly escarp]

Understood.

Only downside is he does appear to be selling customs of the official DIMs, so unless I find them from a different seller, I might end up getting tempted into looking through his wares again.

Y'all got any recommendations for sellers I can get the official ones from instead if Bandai themselves doesn't sell them anymore?

[trim pivot]

Ali Exspress is really good. One of the best and cheapest places you can get them nowdays.

If they are in packaging on Ali they are probably the real deal. It's the individually sold ones that are 99% knock offs

Wow, Amazon US currently has DIM sets for $4

[worldly escarp]

4 DOLLARS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?🤑🤣

Also, I got my Renamon GP from RFT for free.

[trim pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-right-am-i-right-totally-same-gif-9191853

[worldly escarp]

Sorry for the misinfo. I forgot he offered me that and a Digimon card as a free item.

Here's the proof of that and Viral Claws.

@trim pivot Mb for the ping, but this is what I got from RFT. Refund or not? That is the question.

And, by refund, I mainly mean Viral Claws since the other two items were free with my purchase.

[dim magnet]

How you treat your purchases is your business

[worldly escarp]

Fair enough.

Then, apologies for bothering y'all with that.

Also, guess who finally replied.🙃

Tbh, not sure how to respond, so I'll just leave this here.

I'll continue to share any further messages about him stealing the mod beyond this point if necessary or desired.

[worldly escarp]

I simply asked if he stated that was offering the upgrade for free on that listing. I await his response.

[trim pivot]

You've done a great job exposing him, the more light shown on him the better. I really appreciate you confronting him too, that's bravery 🔥

That reply he gave you, That's him 100%, he's a master of word play and semantics.

He told me, "You said I can't sell Digimon Link as a card, you never said I couldn't sell VHs with Digimon Link pre-installed."

Which isn't true. I gave a blanket statement that he and no one else can sell Digimon Link period. If a VH has Digimon Link on it and you're using it as your main selling point, even if it's just in the item’s info section, you're selling Digimon Link. So he found his own mental loophole in his mind to justify his actions.

And Digimon Link is the items main selling point. It's all over the description.

On top of that. Since the begining he never offered to give us monetary compensation and when confronted he told me he'd take it down and then flipped and put it up again hours later.

So clearly this guy is never going to do the right thing, and there is no talking to someone who creates their own moral loop holes. You did the best you could, and you spread major awareness of his actions, which I'm super thankful for, going on with him further would be pointless.

The best use of our time and energy is to keep our peace of mind and not let all our attention get diverted to him. If we want to strike him, like I said, strike him where it hurts morally bankrupt people the most, their wallets, as that's all those types care about anyways, money and power. Not supporting any of his goods and not encouraging others to either when his shop is brought up is the best path forward.

So, I think from here we can focus on the path forward, which is this really awesome update Cyanic and I have cooking up 🔥

[worldly escarp]

Here's some additional stuff he said. I'll stop after this.

Nvm. One last thing.

I'mma end the convo with him there in addition to telling him that I'm not gonna do business with him anymore.

Jesus! Bro's still going!

I've already told him that's enough at this point. I won't bother y'all with this anymore. Enjoy the evidence I gathered for y'all.

Also, one thing I'll note before I officially stop yapping about this subject is I managed to convince him to edit that listing from way earlier. That is all.

[trim pivot]

"Cosmic Munch"

"Why don't you make your own mod instead of taking someone else's and selling it"

You went hard 🤣🔥 We'll go back to topic after this, but really, I'm thankful you went to bat for justice like that. You didn't have to stick your neck out for the work Cyanic and I did but you did and that'a awesome.

I know he wasn't exspecting all that you gave him lol, he probably won't change his ways, but atleast you showed him that people do actually care about the integrity of not only this mod but all indie, fan projects and anything done in the service of community.

And for now he did change his description I see. Excellent work. You even got him to spell my name right once!

[worldly escarp]

I mean if you're curious, i can show the aftermath of what was said after I told him I'm done talking. XD

[trim pivot]

Lmao, I am but you can DM me

[worldly escarp]

You're welcome! XD

[worldly escarp]

Ok. :3

[rigid linden]

I do agree with the angle that we should direct people away from paying for something they can easily do themselves for cheaper (getting scammed)

But Im frustrated at the idea of paywalling any digimon digital fan stuff. Not in support of Bandai necessarily but in a data should be free lens, especially when the community is small and the ability to learn about dim modding is already difficult. For a lot of people, Google is gonna show shops first when it comes to dim modding and that adds a further fiscal barrier which I think filters a lot of people from researching further

Correction, I mean learning about the VB modding community is difficult, dim modding is not. Learning you can is 90% of the battle lol

[worldly escarp]

Ah. I find the DIM modding bit overwhelming.

[eager harbor]

@worldly escarp has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[worldly escarp]

Good to know I can buy blank SD sticks to make my own, tho.

[trim pivot]

Ya learning you can is 90% of the battle. I'm a software guy not a hardware assembly guy, so ever since Mr. Blinkys DIM tool came out for DIM modding I've be like " of that looks complicated. Definitely not for me". I've been like that all these years until I was introduced to looking Into DIM modding for this mod and ya, once I actually tried it, assembly was really simple. The lack of awareness is a big part of what scares people off.

[worldly escarp]

Ah. Fair enough.

Anyways, I'mma finish learning what it would take to make Digimon real. XD

If y'all are interested, I could share my Co-pilot chats about it.

[candid thistle]

honestly the biggest wall for me was having the hardware to actually do it, i'm the kind of person that doesn't retain info unless i'm able to use that info in the immediate to learn the context around it.
After getting that the community has been really good at pointing me to the software i could use to mod the cards.

• Mr Blinky's DIMcard Tool Reads/backs up/rewrites dim cards
• the DIM Modifier tool lets you modify the file inside the DIM card so you can make it a custom DIM
  I talk like i know what i'm doing but i really don't: i have very basic level of knowledge on software and barely any knowledge on hardware stuff but the community has been really helpful with guides and whatnot and that really helped me getting the hang of it.

me personally i just have a bunch of official dim cards all over the place and since you can back up their content i just use them for whatever and then restore them to their official content with the backup on my pc if i need to

[worldly escarp]

Ah. Good to know.

[trim pivot]

Another super major milestone was reached, 🔥 the end of this voyage is on the near horizon, and Project: Real Monster is near complete.

For anyone new, our Dev team consists of:

Me, Comic Munch, as the Funding Member, Creator, and Game Mechanics Architect.

Cyanic as our Technical Lead, and Programming Implementation.

And introducing Dtathemes as our new Co-Funding Member. I will detail more into how he got involved at launch.

Things are heating up, and I know I'm excited, 🔥 for now, enjoy this new teaser.

*This trailer is a fan-made production intended strictly for personal and entertainment use only. All rights remain with their original holders, and sources are credited at the end.

[vast trout]

aw, it's gone down just seconds from the end

still, mentions of food and excrement got me mighty interested, and that trailer was pretty nicely edited too

[vast trout]

whew, only missed the visuals of the last 20 seconds, audio was still playing somehow

got a flight in a couple hours and still contemplating if it's worth bringing the programmer along for the 2 weeks abroad

[trim pivot]

Forgot to mention, Everyone, stay tuned. Later today I will be revealing a confirmed new features In the Update, Project: Real Monster

[brisk mortar]

This project is why I picked up a few vital hero’s lol

[finite garden]

Whoop looking forward to this, I have not locked in my Kaiju Custom lines yet to make sure it takes advantage of whatever goodies this has instore for us.

[burnt haven]

Hey is there somewhere i can see what this mod does? Im trying to find pin comment or a github looks cool but I would have to buy the dim card reader lol

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@burnt haven has evolved into Baby I!

[trim pivot]

At the top of the thread there's a feature list. Also there's a manual in the Pins that goes over the features, what this mod does is create more of an engaging and cozy experience with various additions like being able to praise and scold your Digimon, Looking at its happiness level and ect. It also adds a few QOL features from Cyanic's VB BE Mod Rollup. The next version coming out soon will be heavily building upon the energy of ver 1.

[burnt haven]

Ohhh nice thank you! Something i definitely might do! Does this mod include any companion apps or smth? Trying to figure out if there's a way to do vs battles online and what fun mods exist right now, I got my first braclet for me and my partner and have been loving it so far. : )

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #58 - 33)

[trim pivot]

Awesome! It is a really fun device. As for companion apps, Digimon Link is fully compatible with Bandai's VB Arena app, where you can store and get items for your Digimon, which is currently available.

There’s another app as wel, it’s not affiliated with our dev team, but it’s called VB Helper and is currently in production, with an alpha build already out. If you’d like to learn more, you can find their page in the project section, and Digimon Link will be fully compatible with it when it’s released.

[burnt haven]

Thank you! I saw the VB helper but my bf has an iPhone and thought there was maybe a way to battle with desktop. Thank you for all your help 🙂

[trim pivot]

If you only have an IPhone. There is a away that this Mod offers that let's you battle others long distance. If you buy the DIM programmer it will let you upload the contents of your VS DIM and message it to your friend. And they can battle your Digimon and Vice Versa

• it's not exclusive to this mod. You can do it on all Vital Bracelets that are pre BE that allow VS DIM battles

[burnt haven]

What is the dim programmer ? And is the dim programmer its own application or a physical dim reader?

[trim pivot]

It's a physical reader. You can either assemble it yourself or for slightly more buy a pre assembled one. I have both options and they are good. With self assembly you save some and with the pre built you spend a little more but it's very compact and easy to store.

[burnt haven]

How much is prebuilt? I live in the us some of the links in the thread gave me euros so I was unsure

[trim pivot]

It came to about $27 for me including shipping. It arrived pretty quick too

[burnt haven]

Oh nice! Thats not too bad could you link me to it?

[trim pivot]

Definitely, https://ko-fi.com/s/8627dd37e4

[burnt haven]

For the training gear mod btw do u need a spare dim card or just the vs card for that vital braclet?

Also for me and him to battle each other would we each need spare vs dim cards to act as each others vs dim?

[trim pivot]

You can use either a VS card or a normal dim. Just make sure to save the contents of said DIM on the computer first. Also you'll need the free Mr.Blinky DIM Tool program to install once you get the programmer, it's in the Pins of the modding section.

Are you both near each other or doing long range battles?

Like same room by near*

If you're next to each other you'll both only need one. If you both are battling Long distance you will both need a card to load the VS data into. It doesn't have to be a VS card either. You can load VS data into a Digimon DIM technically

[burnt haven]

Ohh ok cool i was wondering for if I should get just the reader or the one that comes with blanks we haven't battled each other yet we probably will today since im leaving tomorrow sadly! But we've been doing our adv missions together

[trim pivot]

That sounds fun 🙂 If you get the one with the blanks it will give you more options to make your own DIM cards. Another program we haven't talked about yet is the DIM modifier program which is also found in the Pins of the modding section.
You can either load others custom DIM cards or make your own with the program.. Really, since Bandai is no longer making VB cards this is like the unofficial new way to constantly get new rosters. There is a whole CIM Discord community which offers free personal use custom DIM files for anyone to play.
If you get the extra set of blank DIMS that'll provide more space to permanently save custom DIMS.
Or you can just save the files unto your computer and write over the same 1 or 2 DIMS over and over. There's a lot of freedom

[fathom venture]

Hellloo waiting for the new updaaatteeee

[fiery vale]

How come I did not know of this CIM discord?! And here I was, thinking of opening a project page for the small contribution I may give, while somewhere else people were getting all the fun.

[finite garden]

DM Sent.

This Mod, Custom rosters and a Custom Shell makes it feel like a brand new device and that's not even with the new features coming.

[trim pivot]

First up for tonight. Coming to the next major update is a feature we have all enjoyed. Cyanic's VBBE Mod Rollup Automatic Training Cycles 🔥 Now when you finish a training session it will automatically cycle into the next one until you fail or cancel out. This will be a great way for people to stay in flow when exercising or save time when shaking.

[timber cloak]

I needed that so much!!!

[trim pivot]

Also, now you will be able to select which training you would like whenever you'd like. That's not all for training though, there's more changes that will be revealed at launch 🔥

[trim pivot]

Also now Trophy Power will work for both players In VS DIM battles 🔥

[trim pivot]

That's it for tonight, what was shared was about 5% of the update. It will all be revealed during launch which is very close. Stay tuned

[frank parcel]

Cannot wait for it!

Thank you so much!

[candid thistle]

holy unf these features are great

[teal jackal]

This is looking great so far, thank you guys so much

[inland girder]

Would it be possible to also get info on the CIM Discord? It's something I've been wanting to get into more.

[normal trench]

That trailer was REALLY well-edited, and these new features sound fantastic. Great work y'all, can't wait

[trim pivot]

Thank you I appreciate that, I had a ton of fun making it too.
Shout out to Data Ravel as well because a lot of the trailer was heavily inspired by the original Digital Monster lore from the V-pet guide books that he translated a few years ago.

[vast trout]

Back on land, think there may be a game breaking bug concerning Ver. Digivice

Had a rookie fully trained and put to sleep, but just before 1am their sprite data completely corrupted and for all intents and purposes seemed like they just reset themselves (with the stats and attacks remaining the same)

Couldn't be evolved either, all the next section would show is their now-garbled text instead of the no care champ's

[trim pivot]

Yikes, we’ll be looking into that. It’s been a few months since the first release, and a good number of people have been playing Ver. Digivice , this is the first time we’ve heard of anything like that.

First, I’m going to try to replicate the scenario you described. Then, If I can get my child/rookie to crash we’ll see if there’s anything on our end that could have caused it, or if it’s a quirk of the stock firmware.

By “fully trained,” do you mean meeting a specific evo requirement?

What DIM was it? Was it a custom, What child specifically was it and do you know what evolution the Child was set to evolve to?

[vast trout]

It was a custom Wolfmon EX DiM, modded to have only one Child but 4 Adults in this case

Reached the requirements for the top care one with 1300 vitals

Internet dropping

[trim pivot]

Ok, I'll DM you for the custom Wolfmon DIM for reasons of anti BIN sharing on here. I'll need that DIM to test properly. I'll run that DIM as well as others

[wicked ridge]

I am so excited. This is the feature I've been wanting. 😭 ❤️

[candid thistle]

i wonder, if i remember correctly in the context of the BE you can choose your training because each one trains different stats on the digimon from a BE card. Is this also implemented in the next update? 🤔

that said even if it isn't, being able to choose is better overall

[trim pivot]

You're very close! However the change that'll be revealed on launch day offers more freedom to the player

[trim pivot]

Heads up to everyone concerning the Ver. Digivice glitch mentioned above. It turns out it wasn't an error from the Digimon Link system. It was caused by a simple customized DIM mistake of deleting both child slots.

I did some troubleshooting. One with a regular DIM and one with the Custom DIM and found out that the crash only happend on the custom and resulted from there being no child level stages on the CIM.

While the Digimon was a child level stage in sprite form, the actual data underneath was an Adult stage. I figured this out because the Child was able to go to 5000 VP instead of 2500 VP which is the max VP for an adult not a child.

So what's happening in this specific case is, Digimon Link Digivice is looking for a child level to revert to and since all the child stages where deleted In the Custom DIM it had no source to pull from and thus caused a localized error on the DIM. This crash does not ruin the device or the software of Digimon Link. The visual bug is localized to the individual Custom DIM with no child stages.

So when customizing DIMS make sure to watch out that you don't totally erase certain stages out, especially if you are using Digivice Ver. Make sure you keep an actual child stage slot In the DIM.

[cyan geyser]

Super excited about this update - the info you've shared so far all sounds great!

One thing I'm curious about is if there are plans to bring any more "fail states" to raising. I think I'm the minority on this but I actually really love the Evo timer on the BE because it motivates me to keep grinding to get evolutions.

Totally understood if that type of thing doesn't match your vision of the mod! Just curious since that urgency is one of the few things that keeps me coming back to the BE

[trim pivot]

I think you're gonna be very happy too

[cyan geyser]

Hmm. I feel like I gotta buy another one of these things as a backup 😂

[white flint]

This is extremely exciting stuff you're working on!! Both my partner and I can't wait to see what you guys release on launch!! :D

I've been curious, myself while playing with it if there is any way I could hack it and add custom backgrounds or maybe even custom spritesheets... Always been interested in mods and hacks but Idk how the firmware on this is even programmed!

So cool to see you guys have made progress with this, though. The video youve made is super cool and has got me giddy! Gives me hope that there's ways to hack it yet hehe

[trim pivot]

I'm so stoked you're excited 🔥 this was a collaborative commison where I funded the first part that's now released and now co funded recently with Dtathemes for this new edition.
It contains the original works of Cyanic and I and while I started this project to be shared for free modifying the firmware itself or distributing it is outside of our consent.
However, what you mentioned, modifying sprite sheets and background are something that you can do without modifying the Digimon Link Firmware itself, via modding the DIM cards, which works harmoniously with Digimon Link as the programmer you need to buy to install Digimon Link is the same one people have been using to modify their DIM cards for years.

You can change more than just wallpapers and sprite sheets too. You can change stats, Evo lines, basically everything in the DIM

[white flint]

Whoa that's actually super sick!! I'm gonna pick up some equipment to make this happen. I'm super excited for what you guys are doing and I can't wait till it releases. Until then I'll go dig into the DiM modding process! Super sick stuff !!

[hollow drum]

Question: if the Evo timer on the date screen lists a specific evolution as up next, is it guaranteed we get that? Because I'm on my Agumon EX DIM right now, and it's displaying Done Devimon despite the 15th Adventure Mission not being cleared.

[trim pivot]

Yes, what the evo timer shows is what you're locked into getting.

Have you beaten ADV mode with that DIM before with another Digimon?
Ever since they shut down VB Lab how it tracks the ADV progress is very odd, it might have saved your ADV progress from before. Even if your current Digimon hasn't beaten all ADV stages if you did it in the past and the system remembers it then Done Devimon will be automatically unlocked.

[fiery vale]

Yeah, as someone who never used the apps, I can confirm the VB saves if you previously beat the Adventure on a Dim. You can know because the text turns from yellow to red in the Adventure menu.
The one thing it does not is remembering the progress, that is what stage you were at, so even if you beat it already, you'll have to start again from stage 1 every time (but the unlock stays unlocked).

[urban pelican]

Sorry if this is a dumb question or has been asked or addressed already, but is there any plan to bring this mod to the BE? If not there are a few DiMs I still need to collect that only come with the VH.. so it's not a total loss 😅

[trim pivot]

I knew that you had to restart from scratch everytime, If you don't have a Digimon in storage from the same DIM that beat ADV, but didn't know that the unlocked Digimon stayed unlocked regardless. Very interesting 🤔

No, not a dumb question at all! It's been answered but I have no problem answering it again, not everyone is going to read up this chat for hours.

With that said, No plans for BE or any other VBs than the VH Digimon. I understand the want, but for sustainable reasons this is an exclusive for the VH, which I chose because of its very easy, affordable access for the majority of fans due to liquidation.
Cyanic is working in HEX programming with a lot of restrictions and barriers he has to work around under the roof of Bandai's closed code. It's different from the freedom one has coding from scratch. What we're doing is like trying to build a 4-story skyscraper made of Jenga parts in a prison cell. There are things like ID checks, tags, firmware quirks, etc., and since every VB has its own firmware differences, porting is far more time-consuming than a simple copy and paste. Plus, we're a two-person team, and updates like this wouldn't be possible if we had to update five different devices every time we wanted to make an adjustment.
Early on I had a choice of focusing on porting out or building up. This update is the result of my decision to focus on innovation, and I believe the end result will be something everyone will enjoy.

[hollow drum]

That'll be it, I assumed when the progress reset for my new 'mon that I'd have to clear it again

Follow-up question: If I modify a DIM after already raising a Digimon from it, can I still use that DIM to pull it out of VB Arena?

[trim pivot]

I've had no problems doing that.

[urban pelican]

Thanks a lot for answering my question! I'll have to come back once I pick up a VH which will hopefully be sooner than later.

[frank parcel]

We can change everything except attack sprites (VH, digimon link), correct me if I am wrong?

[trim pivot]

Yes, no attack sprites.

[white flint]

Quick question! So you mentioned earlier that DiMs actually contain the backgrounds and stats and spritesheets. Do they contain any temporary save data as well? Or is it more of a ROM (even if it is technically writable, as you mentioned)?

To be clear, I mean when you put it into your device does it change anything on the DiM itself? If so, are there ways to transfer the "save data" of whatever digimon in the device or is the app really the only way for that? It honestly seems weird to me that the only way it can send and receive digimon would be over wireless considering it has an SD reader on the side lol!

[rigid linden]

Not aware of the technical details at all, but the VS Memory sends the digimons battle data. So a dim card can at least store some more varied data than just adv save data

[round idol]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is Digimen.

[rigid linden]

I technically wasn't using a plural. Bad Tarakotchi

[round idol]

http://humulos.com/digimon/images/ui/tarakotchi_white.gif

[dim magnet]

The only thing that gets written is the lock block for a normal Dim

On a VS Dim, it writes the character definitions, sprite sizes, a chunk of sprites, and the VS context, plus a checksum

[rigid linden]

I guess what theyre asking maybe, but now Im interested in. Is there feasibly a way to make a custom dim card that when used in junction with a mod could send a digimon to be stored in a dim card like a physical back up

[dim magnet]

That could be a thing, but no one's implemented it

[rigid linden]

Thats pretty cool, and yeah I dont see a good reason to implement it. Interesting idea though

[white flint]

This is very useful to know thanks!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 534)

[white flint]

I was asking this in the second part of my question yes

Was just wondering what, if anything was stored on these things, and also was just thinking about how it's kinda strange they aren't used to transfer digimon at all! I mean they're basically SD cards. Kinda weird! But it makes sense given their purpose for the firmware

Regardless, thanks for answering my questions. Didn't mean to get too off topic tho my bad 😅

[idle shell]

Very cool mod. I got the Vital Hero to relive the nostalgia but it was after they already shutdown and gimped the app on the phone, removing a lot of cool functionality. Also, I work from home and I thought that gamifying some exercise might get me out of the chair during the day, but it sucked that you were limited to just 3 hard missions a day. I was about to put the Vital Hero away and probably never touch it again until I came across this nice mod, and so I installed it yesterday. I see that there might be some updates in the future. Will those be easy to install? Thank you.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #55 - 36)

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@idle shell has evolved into Baby I!

[white flint]

One thing I wanted to say and thank y'all for was this functionality. Super excited about this cuz I'm actually not able to walk without a cane. I'm mobility impaired and so usually have to just shake the darn thing. The shadow boxing is the only one I can really do! So having the ability to choose that consistently is like, really disability-accessible so thank you 🥲

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #53 - 37)

[trim pivot]

I'm glad to hear the VB has inspired you ro consider exercising, that's my story too and I hope Digimon Link can inspire you further. Installing the update will be just as easy as installing the first time. Just make sure you kept your restore file that was backed up to the card you used to install it.

[trim pivot]

See these last two comments are a part of why I love the VB series so much. Gamified fitness is such a great thing and I've seen the effect it's had in my life. I'm glad what Cyanic and I made is of service and I can't wait for the update so you can enjoy shadow boxing with unlimited cycles! 🔥💪

[white flint]

You guys are so based haha

[brisk mortar]

does capsule pause the evo timer for ver: digital monster?

[dim magnet]

Yes

[wicked ridge]

So we will be able to let it repeat the same exercise instead of moving to the next? I sort of had that question, didn't ask because I didn't want to be a pest, but now I'm excited again lol. Leg day is about to suck so much less.

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@wicked ridge has evolved into Baby II!

[trim pivot]

Lol, glad to hear that 💪and leg day will suck less cause that's exactly how it works 🔥 No switching to the next exercise anymore. When you select what training type you want it will cycle that specific training over and over until you either fail or cancel out the session.

[turbid notch]

Thanks to you are the team, the devices is become what it should always have to be. I can't wait for the new stuff!

Awesome thing you do, guys!

[trim pivot]

Things are at a boiling point now 🔥, but before that, let's clear the road ahead with this. Earlier this summer, it was found that if you used modded DIMS with the wrong ID, the stock firmware would create sprite signing errors, resulting in visual glitches solely in VS DIM Battles. The only remedy was to use a limited pool of early released DIM cards.

We're happy to announce, before going into the reveal of Project: Real Monster, that all DIM IDs are now clear to use for modding, And all of your previous DIM Mods, that you put time and effort into making with the wrong ID will now be playable once again in DIM Battles.

[candid thistle]

absolutely incredible

[frigid python]

CRAP
Time to scramble to find multiple VHs

[proud pond]

Hello, I'm going to start installing the mod now. I just need one confirmation: all I need (apart from the devices) is the Digimon Links 1.1 update. Is this right?
Or do I need to install version 1.0 and then update?

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@proud pond has evolved into Baby I!

[dim magnet]

Only the latest

[proud pond]

thanks

[white flint]

Yoo having all DiMs available for editing is so awesome. Love how accessible you made it that's huge!

Tho, to be clear, the firmware portion Digimon Link is still in the dev and testing phase right? Or am I blind? >~<

I've seen people chatting about installing different versions (testers maybe?) and so I wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything! Thanks again you two!! :3

[trim pivot]

The stable public release of Digimon Link Ver. 1 was released in the begining this Summer.
If you want to try it out before the update it's in the Pins. Just make sure to save the backup file, when installing so you can update your device!

[white flint]

Sorry I must've scrolled past that! But damn this is so so exciting. Can't wait to solder up my own lil DiM reader and make this happen 😎

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@white flint has evolved into Baby II!

[finite garden]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

Impatiently waiting to find out what the next version does. More excited for this than I am my GodzillaxDMC!

[trim pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-encarando-gif-3898445091325268107

I think he heard you 😐

[finite garden]

I mean ill be bringing his Sprites to the TG:DL...sooo we good Gman?!? 😬

[fathom venture]

Whenn is the releaseeee

[trim pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-yeah-gif-21176620

[trim pivot]

We're working on last minute innovations. Almost there

[fathom venture]

haha hit us with some new features before release hehe

[wicked ridge]

Part of my morning routine now is checking discord for the update. I dunno what I'm going to do with myself after it actually drops.

[jagged zephyr]

Newb here (currently in the process of waiting for the Vital Hero and associated hardware to arrive). I'm just exploring the software side of things, but am I able to choose a dim file and upload it? If yes, where do I find the dim files? Apologies if this question is against any rules!

I mean for specific digimon BTW

[trim pivot]

No worries,
Each DIM card contains a BIN file, Sharing stock Digimon BINS is against Digi Hatchery rules.
So to get the files of the Digimon you want you'd have to buy the Digimon DIM cards they are located in.

[jagged zephyr]

I see, thanks for that explanation! Certainly makes sense. So if the Vital Hero comes with the Dinosaur Roar and VS dim cards, am I better off using the VS dim for the firmware?

[trim pivot]

Yes, using the VS DIM is the standard card people use cause it's the most convenient.
Before writing over it though make sure to save the VS DIM file on your computer. You'll need the VS DIM to have it's original data on the card if you want to use it to battle in the future.
Also, save the backup file that's created during the Digimon Link installation in your computer as well.

[jagged zephyr]

Awesome. Thank you so much for the help! Super excited to try this. I was a Digimon kid in the late 90's and I've recently been loving the X and 20th anniversary so the Vital series seems super interesting. Also hoping it's something me and my son can enjoy together. Really appreciate the help.

[brisk mortar]

Comic you think at some point this will have the same feature as the mod roll up for seeing all the possible evolutions and the stats needed to get them 👀

[trim pivot]

Not in this update, at least. Dtathemes our co-investor showed interest in the evo chart possibility too, so I won’t say never, but no promises either. This update has already pushed the limits of what’s possible. Cyanic and I have been working on Digimon Link nonstop since February, and it really shows in the quality. After release we’ll need a breather, so future updates will be considered, but they’ll take time and depend on system space (this update already maxed things out) and on our availability. That said, we’re proud of what’s coming

[brisk mortar]

Yes of course I’m excited for whatever’s to come! Can’t wait for the update 🙂

[jagged zephyr]

I love it when a plan comes together

Thanks so much for this project and the assistance. I would say the process is not super accessible despite the volume of documentation. But perhaps that's for the best given the effort required to get the necessary bits together

[crude reef]

Please do not buy anything from rarefinetrading on eBay, this has been raised before and challenged. If you are interested in the Digimon Link project, ask for help here and someone will guide you on installing it, dont buy a bracelet with a "free upgrade"

[trim pivot]

"Free upgrade" with a $20 mark up

[trim pivot]

And if anyone's unaware, he's selling his VH with Digimon Link for $35. You can get them at Walmart.com for $11 and Amazon from $15-19. With that extra mark up he's charging you could buy a pre assembled Bazjo Programmer, which is as easy to use as a USB drive and be able to upgrade Digimon Link and enjoy the many Custon DIMs of the CIM community.
Not everyone has a Windows PC, so for those that don't I understand. But if you do, you're doing yourself a disservice paying such a marked up price.
Plus as the comment above nicely mentioned. What he's doing, selling what a company would consider "bootleg" Bandai IP is the type of actions that could bring Bandai into communities like this with a cease and desist.

[vast trout]

Dread to think what one's supposed to do if there isn't a card with the backed up firmware, let alone sanctioned piracy

[jagged zephyr]

Whats the best way to use the vital hero as a digivice? Would I need to mod the dim step count to be lower

[stray roost]

There's a bit of a guide to that in the Digimon Link Field Notes, but essentially yes, you'd just make a custom adventure mode with lower step count.

[jagged zephyr]

One other question. Can the vital hero only battle digimon that are featured on the dim you're using?

[stray roost]

Maybe? I don't actually know, might be worth checking the FAQ

[fiery vale]

Yeah, unless this mod change that (and I don't see anything saying it does).
The option of battling other dims digimon (in adventure mode) is only in the BE (and only for Bems).

[wicked ridge]

Heck, I am pretty sure my vital plus all of the mods were under $35. Vital, the parts for my programmer, custom 3d printed parts to add watch wristbands, and new bands. There is also apparently a way to make exe files run on linux (which I've gotta figure out because I switched my OS lol). Really no good reason for this guys behavior other than being a leech. Mac users already interested in modding anything would likely have a vm set up or dual boot with a more agreeable operating system anyway.

Imma say I'll chime in later on whether or not mr. bliky's dim tool can work with wine. I've been putting it off, but now I'll have guilted myself into working on it. 😅

[round idol]

https://c.tenor.com/Bqvc7gXarOgAAAAC/i-think-you-should-leave-capital-room.gif

[trim pivot]

The last major milestone has been passed. With that I'm very happy to announce that
Project Real Monster will be released next week 🔥
Until then here's a clue as to what to expect in this innovative evolution of Training Gear: Digimon Link

[turbid notch]

A CLOCK FEATURE!! 😮

[crude reef]

Im finally going to be able to tell the time on my watch!

[wicked ridge]

Not just any clock, an australian clock.

[candid thistle]

finally

back to analog clock

the digital monsters have defeated the digital clock

[stray roost]

Anamon, Analogue Monsters

[trim pivot]

I would watch that series religiously

[cyan geyser]

BE-style evo countdown maybe? 🤔

[dim magnet]

That's already a feature

[quiet plinth]

this whole project is truly a lifesaver, I think the buttons on my current BE are not long for this world and all my attempts to repair the first one have been unsuccessful 😔 thanks to u all I still have a watch worth using

[cyan geyser]

Oh I meant like the finite time limit on the ability to evolve. Or is that a feature too and I missed it?

[dim magnet]

No, and people are annoyed by that, so it's sort of an anti-feature. That said, there's something somewhat related coming.

[timber cloak]

this is peak digimon desing for analog pet. Dog but gun

[cyan geyser]

Yeah, I get why people wouldn't like it. I mostly like that it helps keep me motivated to get trophies. Without that I end up with a Drimogeomon for multiple days like I have right now 😅

[candid thistle]

very faithful to the digimon design phylosophy.
"what if animal... But gun...?"

[trim pivot]

I get were you're coming from and I think you'll be motivated by the new update 🙂 like you, the VB keeps me active too. What's coming is designed to motivate those who want to exercise and be interactive for those who want to play it in shell form.

[cyan geyser]

Excited for anything you all are cooking up!

[twilit bloom]

This modding scene is what got me into vpets so thank you for that.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #49 - 39)

[turbid notch]

The mod scene is what keeps digimon alive xD

[frigid python]

I'd have to whole heartedly agree
I got back into digimon after finding a dm20 and finding out a/dcoms were a thing. Very happy I did

[fluid owl]

I assume for the update we'll have to uninstall and reinstall?

[trim pivot]

Yes

[bitter timber]

Hello there... really great work with this mod! I have a question. Is there any option in this mod to change the clock back to 24 hour?

[dim magnet]

No

[bitter timber]

ok thanks.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 538)

[hasty current]

Is there a step by step guide for installing the mod? I've looked and can't seem to find it.

[eager harbor]

@hasty current has leveled up! (9 ➜ 10)

[dim magnet]

Start by looking at the manual in the download package. You'll need a Dim programmer

[hasty current]

Tyvm

[sinful obsidian]

Hey quick question how do people store digimon on their modded vb? can you still store digimon on app with link mod?

[dim magnet]

The app works fine

[sinful obsidian]

you are amazing 🫶🏽

[turbid notch]

We are in the next week right now!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/excited-penguin-nervous-anxiety-air-gif-4089498824878028904

[wicked ridge]

So if anyone was wondering (doubt it, but I ~did~ say I'd report back), the dim tool does not play nice with linux. You can run it, but it doesn't seem to be able to see the programmer even with the drivers up to date. I won't say it's impossible. Maybe some way to get a windows version of the driver? Someone smarter than me with more spare time will have to make that call. I am very glad I just plopped linux on a fresh hard drive and kept the old one with win 8.1. This makes 3 drives now just chilling in my case. Why use a virtual machine when you can just open a side panel and swap who is plugged in? 😂

[dim magnet]

Why bother using the Dim tool if you're on Linux? Just use flashrom

At the end of the day Mr. Blinky's tool is just a frontend for the programmer. You can use any other program to program too

[wicked ridge]

Software hurt smooth brain. Switch wires, very comfortable. Smooth brain no hurt.

[trim pivot]

Tomorrow Project: Real Monster will be released and you'll be playing the next installment of Digimon Link.
Before that, here's one last feature reveal.
Going forward Untethered status is no more. No longer will you see that annoying flashing "!" Now if you see a grey cloud it's only because your Digimon is really sad.
No longer will you have to worry about your Vitals and mood plummeting when putting your device down and leaving it unattended. This is great for people who don't want to put their Digimon to sleep all day and want to take a break from wearing it and just as great for people who prefer playing the VB in a shell like a traditional Vpet.
Now you can without having to mess with all the HRS tricks.

Stay tuned, Tomorrow is release 🔥

[timber cloak]

I’m so excited for tomorrow!

Gonna start a whole new dim for that

Agunimon maybe?

Been on a frontier mood lmao

[cyan geyser]

Ooh, neat. I just snagged a backup. Maybe I'll try to find a case to print for it

[cyan geyser]

I forgot I printed one years ago but ended up reconstructing the watch because I lost too many vitals. Kept all the parts!

[candid thistle]

ok so, i assume we'll have to revert the VH back to default to install the new update. No problem on that since i backed that up when i installed the mod, but is it as simple as putting that backup on a dim and then using it on the VH or are there more steps? 🤔

[trim pivot]

It's just as simple, Store your Digimon, plug the restore DIM into the Dlink and the process will start up and guide you though.

[candid thistle]

Nice 👌

[turbid notch]

I didnt mind the untatered status actually. I use it often so the digimon lose vitals in case the daily quest needs vitals and i cant win more because im at the fullest.

[dim magnet]

It's somewhat of a nuisance because of how inaccurate it is. There are replacement ways of lowering VP with better control.

[trim pivot]

You can always use Scold to lose vitals as well

[turbid notch]

But if i use SCOLD too much, doesnt get sick?

[dim magnet]

You can manage it as necessary

[trim pivot]

Yup, they won't get an injury, and they'll be just fine, if you watch their mood with the mood meter and make sure your Digimon's mood isn't at the empty level when Scolding.

[turbid notch]

:o!

[finite garden]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-5787005613059506418

[trim pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/diaboromon-countdown-foxtrot12-digimon-infermon-gif-8714720159727463031

Soon 👀

[wicked ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[trim pivot]

Warning: The restore file is not universal. Each installation generates a new restore. To ensure you don't firmware lock your device, do not write over the DIM you installed Digimon Link with and additionally back it up on a computer.

[turbid notch]

I use the VS DiM to install it, and never touch it back. Then now i can use the same DiM for the reversal install to be ready for the new one. Is that it? Did i get it right?

[finite garden]

If you did not remove the backup from the VS DiM all you need to do is plug it back in to restore.

[turbid notch]

Awesome! Thanks! x3

[fathom venture]

Weeeeeee

[trim pivot]

Training Gear: Digimon Link Pendulum | Nurtue Train Battle

[vast trout]

...now that explains the triceramon

[finite garden]

Did you just turn the VH into a real Vpet?

[frigid python]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-ben-man-hype-pumped-gif-1583285325096508283

[trim pivot]

Training Gear: Digimon Link Pendulum | Nurture Train Battle

[idle shell]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-blessing-blessed-bless-gif-25991585

[dim magnet]

Imagine Bandai not putting in a basic watch feature

[trim pivot]

Right?

[fiery vale]

This is massive! Great work guys!
But am\pm clock only? Not even a choice? That's a deal-breaker to me, sorry. I want my 24-hours. LOL

[dim magnet]

Yeah, that's still something that can't be easily saved

[cyan geyser]

Woah this is really amazing

[quiet plinth]

oh my this is much more extensive than i expected
it'll take a while to adjust, but i am very excited

[cyan geyser]

I was going to wait to reshell to get started but I think I'm just going to jump in after work

Torn between old age and regular play 🤔

Probably going old age style to keep that time limit in place. This is great!

[fiery vale]

Then don't change it! 24-hours is the superior time!

[dim magnet]

Not for the primary market that VH is sold in

[quiet plinth]

considering how limiting you've said it is to be working off of the existing architecture, i'm genuinely stunned you were able to add so much content in such a short time. bravo, and thank you

real glad i just happened to check for an update minutes after it was posted

[cyan geyser]

Yeah, this is wild

[frigid python]

Would we be able to pin this?

[trim pivot]

That's something that I'm happy you appreciate and recognized.

I had to plan the game mechanics with the restrictions of ROM and device limits. A lot of times I had to go back to the drawing board or think outside the box to translate what I wanted into the game.

and Cyanic did a magnificent job actually translating my wild blue print and ideas into a functional and stab build. I'm truly proud and thankful that Cyanic helped me to get this vision out of my head. Truly Cyanic went far and above expectations and I'm happy he went on this journey with me from February till now.

Also thanks to Dtathemes for helping to co fund this project. Digimon Link Pendulum wouldn't be if you wasn't for his financial backing.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @quiet plinth (current: #393 - 3)

[turbid notch]

I dont FCKNG CARE! DOWNLOAD IT IN MY VEINS!!!!! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRHHHHHH

[wicked ridge]

After 7 years together, the most heated debates my husband and I have had are on military vs am/pm. I promise nobody that has a preference is going to budge on it. Even though am/pm is better, cleaner looking, involves no math, and he is just being obtuse by picking the other one. -_-

[turbid notch]

https://tenor.com/view/zombie-orpheus-onwaaard-the-gamers-larp-ttrpg-gif-17217585

[trim pivot]

We have to wait for a MOD to do it 👀

[turbid notch]

I always though WHY IT DOESNT HAVE AN ALARM!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[vernal summit]

are the pendulum mechanics optional?

[dim magnet]

You can skip them if you'd like

[vernal summit]

cool

sometimes im not in the mood for shaking

[turbid notch]

Oh boy...i dont know which one to pick!

[timber cloak]

IM freaking out

[turbid notch]

i know, right? xD

[vernal summit]

welp now im gonna totally get a vh for this

how do the step reqs work with indoor play?

[hollow drum]

just refill the happiness you lose from missing them with praise

[vernal summit]

ohh ok

[hollow drum]

(I assume, as someone who's only just installing the update right now)

[brisk mortar]

This update drops while I’m at work 😭

[turbid notch]

I bring the whole stuff at work since last week, prepared to install it as soon as it drop xD

[brisk mortar]

Lmao I wish but I work in a lab so I can’t bring stuff in

But I would if I could haha

[turbid notch]

oooh yeah, thats way more complicated :'x

Just a couple of hours! hang in there! >:3

Between "REAL DIGITAL MONSTER" and "DIGITAL MONSTER", the only difference is that in one the digimon die of old??

[trim pivot]

Yes and the 2 hour step requirements are more in Real DM

[turbid notch]

🤔 Mmmm
....i dont want my digimon die of old....🤔
but the step thing seems more interesting... 🤔

I will go for the REAL DM, then i will be super attach to my digimon, and when it dies, it will give me character development enough to change it to NON-REAL DM.

[hollow drum]

Am I reading right from the Research Notes Manual that Adv Mode is no longer determined by what's on the DIM?

[turbid notch]

oh i should read that! xD

[trim pivot]

The contents are the same. The difference is you can choose your storage Digimon's ADV map to travel in.

Also now Digimon encounters will spawn as you walk, just like the Classic Pedometer Digivices.

Lose a battle: get sent back 500
Flee loose: 100
Win: proceed to the boss!
Special encounters in stage 5 and 11 will send you forward 500 steps if you win 🔥

[hollow drum]

oh, nice!

[wicked ridge]

rip to the sacrificial snowbotamon I used to make sure I'd restored right. You will not be missed and i am not sorry.

[hollow drum]

"bug" report right off the bat: slots 4 and 5 are swapped in the graphics pool for the Ghost Game V sets > Espimon DIM

[vast trout]

real curious if there's any implications to having a digimon do an adventure from another dim

[dim magnet]

Only thing to note is if you finish stage 15 the flag will be applied for the Dim you finished it on

The number of unlocked stages is tracked for your particular mon and applicable to both Dims

[hollow drum]

Meaning if I use my backup 'mon to beat stage 15, it won't unlock the evolution of the "main" 'mon whose adventure it was?

[dim magnet]

If you finish the main's stage 15 from the backup character, it will unlock the evolution on the main

[hollow drum]

ah, perfect

[wicked ridge]

Has that always been an option??? I've been missing out on some cheese.

[dim magnet]

No

[vernal summit]

how does indoor adv work? automatic?

[trim pivot]

Yup, set your device down and every so often an encounter will appear

[vernal summit]

ty

[tawny bolt]

So Pendulum is an Update and not a different "Version" ?

or, Pendulum has 3 versions, separate form the original?

[trim pivot]

It's a whole new Ver. With tons of new features built off of what was done in Ver. 1

[tawny bolt]

Cooooooool

[turbid notch]

Aaah, so the different wallpapers has been sacrifice in exchange for the different time wallpaper?

and I assume for more stuff

[trim pivot]

WELL ya, about that. I was exspecting this comment lol ya unfortunately all the cool updates took up a lot of space. It was like a sinking ship near the end, every other day " We're out of space " and so another couple of wallpaper went. It was a miracle we were able to get the one Dynamic wallpaper in by the end. This update pushed things to the limit.

[trim pivot]

Ya, If you mean Ver. 1 which was released earlier this summer? Ya the Pendulum comes in three new verisons

[turbid notch]

Sorry, i always do stuff with wallpapers xD
My bad X'D

[trim pivot]

No, I was agreeing with you lol I miss the Wallpapers too 😭

[turbid notch]

But my god, the stuff you made guys, is amaizing! Imagine having all this at the prime time of the VH!

hank you so much for all this work. You made me buy a VH, a device that I have no respect for it, for what it was. For all the lost potencial!
Your work is amaizing!!

[cyan geyser]

I'm glad you all sacrificed wallpapers for the dynamic times. The day/night cycle is so cool

Me waiting to get out of work

[vernal summit]

the dynamic wallpapers are a favorite of mine on the color devices so im ok with the tradeoff

def gonna go real digital monster when my vh comes in

[candid thistle]

i did like some of the old wallpapers but it does make sense to sacrifice those in exchange for all the other stuff. And the sleepy mode one is still alive! Honestly i'm still amazed by how much stuff you guys managed to put in this.

[frank parcel]

Wait, so does this update still have the features of the Digivice version? ( Press A on calendar screen to reduce Evo timer to 1 min and digimon reset to child at midnight) ?

[hollow drum]

I don't quite understand how Mega and Tera Shot work, how do we know what number to aim for?

[turbid notch]

I like the fact that you know i will press any button to shut down the alarm, so ir will keep going until i set it off by going to the menu, making me wake up in the process :p

[dim magnet]

That's for you to discover

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@wanton creek has evolved into Child!

[vernal summit]

where did you get this cool shell?

[wanton creek]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5329641

[vernal summit]

ty

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @wanton creek (current: #298 - 5)

[frank parcel]

Oh, I get it, thanks! Sorry, just downloaded and extracted and started reading the manual pdf inside the zip.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @wanton creek (current: #260 - 6)

[eager harbor]

@frank parcel has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[timber cloak]

OMG IT ASKED ME FOR food!

[vast trout]

heck, did not expect shifting backgrounds to take effect during training

[finite garden]

Can you exit the feed menu with a button or just have to for a time out?

[dim magnet]

Hold bottom button as usual

[vast trout]

holding b still worked

[wanton creek]

Alarm clock can choose sound.

[turbid notch]

Lol, he want something, but dont know what :v

[frank parcel]

Can someone pls pin this ?

[finite garden]

I must have pressed rather than hold. Thanks

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 539)

[frank parcel]

Also, in the digivice version, do power trophies get reset when the digi resets to child at midnight?

[high aurora]

This is the coolest thing I've ever seen

[dim magnet]

It doesn't

[frank parcel]

That's soo coool! Thanks!

[cyan geyser]

I'm trying to figure out what DiM to run. Maybe Nu Metal Empire 🤔

[vast trout]

For a moment I was worried Power trophies didn't carry over when transferring a mon from app-to-bracelet, only to have with the same amount the then-only mon had instead of 0 (although regular trophies displayed fine)

Turns out switching out corrects all that

...though it's something to have more than 60 trophies go to waste as a (digivice) mega

[high aurora]

Just out of curiosity, can Vital Hero mods be applied to the original VB?

[dim magnet]

No

[high aurora]

Interesting, I thought they were pretty much identical!

[dim magnet]

There's around 6 different firmware revisions between VB and Digivice V

[vast trout]

on that note, have to wonder if they ever caught on to that one debug menu where you could reset dim uses

[high aurora]

I wonder if it'll work with the UK release of the Vital Hero

I'll need to try

[dim magnet]

Yes, they made a new revision very quickly after the release of Digivice V

[high aurora]

Wait will VH mods work with Digivice V? 👀

[dim magnet]

No, they changed enough things to make the addresses not match up

[high aurora]

Valid, I'll need to unbox a VH then!

[timber cloak]

Sorry, How does the pendulum training works?

[dim magnet]

There's also some things VH specifically makes possible, like the timers for triggering calls and the alarm clock

[dim magnet]

Should be outlined in the manual

[high aurora]

I feel like this makes the VH suddenly a much better proposition than the VBBE.

[cyan geyser]

Yeah, agreed

Glad I ordered a backup recently 😁

[brisk mortar]

If you update to this new version can you still go back to the version before?

[dim magnet]

Yes. The old version is also included

[inland girder]

This update looks really cool, but I don't think I'm gonna switch to the Pendulum. I kinda prefer the simplicity.

[brisk mortar]

I’m in the same boat, but I will be sad missing some of the great QOL additions to the pendulum update.

[timber cloak]

I loved the interaction part before the battles

also are the battle animations sped up?

[dim magnet]

No

[timber cloak]

i got that impression, must be somethinh mercurymon's animations then

lmao

[ember rock]

I... i think I gonna cry? THANKS

[finite garden]

Great work @trim pivot and @dim magnet you really pushed this once again to the next level and made it feel like a real Vpet.
Raising my Mothra on it now and already it feels so much better.

[teal jackal]

Been looking forward to this, thank you guys so much. Excited to work out more so I can swole up my Digimon for VS battles

[turbid notch]

Oh crap....i wanna buy more DiMs now....at least 4 more...

Fuck it, i totally deserve it!

[wicked ridge]

I told a friend that I like to think of my digimon as a little parasite eating some of my energy through the watch and she was like "wtf why do you always have to say weird stuff". Based on the research notes, at least Munch gets it. I love the mod but I especially appreciate that I've found a kindred spirit.

[trim pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/we-see-each-other-meand-you-you-and-me-gif-12558073

[high aurora]

next we need a mod to make the VH compatible with BEMemory somehow, maybe we can get some bigger rosters LOL

[stray torrent]

God this is fucking awesome
Totally putting real dm on my handheld vh and digivice on my watch vh

[high aurora]

I am sorely tempted to make a Digimon World DiM card for this to run in Real DM mode

get that elecmon/penmon egg going 👀

[finite garden]

There's a few BEM features like multiple backgrounds etc I'd like also

[high aurora]

Oh yeah true, that would be rad

[tawny bolt]

I just need the BE Next Evo menu to be implimented in the VH and id never touch the BE again (probably)

(well,, and BEM functionality, but i assume neither of these things are within the realm of reality)

[trim pivot]

Next Evo menu is very possible.

[sonic path]

all i have to do to play this, is to connect the bracelet to the computer via cable, unnistall the original firmware, put the new one and the DIM Card Bins?

[trim pivot]

Not a cable but a DIM Programmer ( USB like stick ) You can assemble one very easily or you can buy a nice small compact one pre assembled by a seller named Bazjo.

[sonic path]

thank you for explaining it! Also, congrats on this amazing work, was completly sold out when i saw the video on reddit

[zenith otter]

I am this 🤏🏻 close to buying my first VH just because of this new mod, looks amazing!

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@zenith otter has evolved into Baby I!

[high aurora]

For people in the UK who happen to see this

Home Bargains are still selling Vital Hero for around 4gbp (a little over 5usd) if you want to try it out

(stock seems very limited though)

[finite garden]

I managed to pick one up this way, I was just browsing when I saw it so snatched it up.

[high aurora]

Definitely living up to the "bargain" name for sure, I'm so happy I grabbed a couple when I saw them

[fiery vale]

This could be a problem... I modded all my dim cards with less steps (because reasons), so I wonder what will happen with less than 500 steps.

[sonic path]

just a question, when you metion the DIM Programmer, it's to install the firmware or only to get the DIM Card Bins?

[dim magnet]

Nothing unusual

[trim pivot]

It's timed based so take very small steps lol

[trim pivot]

It's it both install the firmware and to mod your DIM cards if you'd wish

There's some features you'll miss out on if you don't mod your DIMS like the Evolution scroll wheel. If you have a Japanese DIM and don't put in English translated names then, unless you speak Japanese, you won't be able to tell who your Digimon will evolve into

[trim pivot]

But, on a serious note, that's easy to remedy if you want to experience encounter, just adjust your ADV mission steps back up in the DIM modifier. 500 steps will usually give you 1 battle with a brisk walk.

[high aurora]

Ahhh is that what the Graphics Pool folder is for? I wondered!

That's a very cool idea

[cyan geyser]

I have been so careful about not looking at rosters in advance for my dims (I like the surprise) that I haven't done the sprite modding more than once but they look so good

Maybe I can figure out some way to block the sprite out with post its 🤔

[plucky nacelle]

Are the dim rosters still limited to 17?
Additionally there is no advantage on getting a BE over VH now is it?

[dim magnet]

Yes. And BE still stores more characters at a time

[rustic zenith]

Are regular dims compatible with the VH? I can't remember

[dim magnet]

Yes

[plucky nacelle]

Damn I have 3 BEs a lot of Vital Bracelets and some Vs but no VH, guess to Amazon I go

[finite garden]

I have mostly ignored my BE since getting this Mod

[rustic zenith]

Man this mod looks awesome

Is it compatible with the app too to keep track of the unlocked characters per Diem?

[plucky nacelle]

Thanks for the help on the other chat btw!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @finite garden (current: #123 - 13)

[turbid notch]

I could change my sprites from Volcanic Beat for TCG art :p

Looks pretty amaizing on the watch too!

[dim magnet]

Yes, nothing's changed there

[rustic zenith]

So for this mod I only need a VH?

[dim magnet]

A VH, a Dim, and a Dim programmer

[rustic zenith]

Where can I get a Dim programmer?

[dim magnet]

Links in the download package

You could make your own or buy a prebuilt

[zenith otter]

Dumb question but, the VH comes with the VS dim and the Dinosaur dim in this case, would the VS work for a Dim programmer? 🤔

[finite garden]

Any does VS or normal just not BEM

[zenith otter]

Oh cool, thanks!

[wicked ridge]

I am going to have to print off or write down a cheat sheet for these new moods. Lynxmon asked to do an adventure boss ~after~ I was done with my interval training, I thought he'd be sad if I didn't, and I ended up walking another quarter mile just to watch him get bodied by a renamon. The meat icon should be a tub of paste for this one.

[zenith otter]

Does anybody knows if a programmer can be bought of eBay? Seems that kazjo is not shipping to us

[dim magnet]

You might be better off for now just getting the parts off Amazon. A lot of places aren't shipping to the US now

[zenith otter]

Shoot okay let me find them all

Lmao thankd

[fluid owl]

I love the idea of the digivice with the Digimon reverting. Gonna go with the pendulum digivice mode and see how that goes

[frank parcel]

BEMs are still incompatible, right?

[warm sun]

I would love to do this with my vital hero too, Just don't have the means to do it yet.

[dim magnet]

Correct

[frank parcel]

Also, the AP, HP boosts we get when from power trophy training, will those be there in the VB helper app later when battles are released? or only in VS DIMs and Adv, NFC battles?

One more thing, is there a discord where people share their VS DIM bin files for battling each other?

[vernal summit]

making a programmer involves sautering right

[hollow drum]

Okay, data point for the Pendulum mechanic: Impmon (Normal Activity Type) does a Tera Shot on ||5 shakes||.

[dim magnet]

They'd have to implement it if they want to do anything special with it. The data's there.

[dim magnet]

Not necessarily

[vernal summit]

elaborate?

[frank parcel]

Ah I see. Thanks!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 540)

[dim magnet]

It's attaching a microSD breakout. Some may come with pins presoldered, some may not. Depending on the programmer you use, there may be breakout pins for you to just wire things together

[hollow drum]

You can buy the parts and then just stick wires on the pins that came on each part

[vernal summit]

oh thank god thats easier

and i have some leftover acom wires

[frank parcel]

There are pre-soldered micro sd modules for sale on ebay. I just got those and connected them to my CH341A with jumper wires

[hollow drum]

I bought all my parts on AliExpress (see above). Just make sure the pins are soldered on already.

[dim magnet]

Reminder that for new builds, avoid CH341

[frank parcel]

yes, but aliexpress is way slower...delivery takes a month, ebay is like 10-15 days

[hollow drum]

That order took 8 days for me

[frank parcel]

Also beware, most listings of micro sd modules on Amazon are non-soldered ones, regardless of what the picture shows

[vernal summit]

mmm ok ty all

[frank parcel]

lucky you XD

[hollow drum]

I believe ordering things marked as "Choice" (aka stuff already in their warehouses) cuts way down on the delviery times

[zenith otter]

Oh oh, I need to cancel my order lmao

[frank parcel]

oh, I see

[vernal summit]

it's ok if it's CH341A?

[dim magnet]

No, that's the same thing

[vernal summit]

oh that's what the mrblinky site said was ok to get

[hollow drum]

They used to be the community go-to, and they're still the cheapest option but there's a degree of risk to using them

[vernal summit]

ahh i see now i need to read the whole thing more

[hollow drum]

Though I think (cyanic will correct me if I'm wrong) that the risk is more when you're clipping it onto a DMC/PenC's chip, and not so much when using it as an SD programmer for DIMs?

In any case, the one Bazjo sells pre-built also has a CH341A chip in it

[vernal summit]

well. the problem with bazjo is

[hollow drum]

Right, I just meant that it's also a CH341A

[vernal summit]

oh ok

[livid pendant]

How do you get out of diet menu?

[trim pivot]

The CIM discord has a VS DIM thread where they share VS BINs

Long press B

[dim magnet]

Hold the bottom button like most other menus

[frank parcel]

ok, thanks!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #47 - 41)

[livid pendant]

Ah thanks

[livid pendant]

Thanks

[teal jackal]

Been using Real DM all day and loving it so far. Having some problems getting the pendulum action to not give me doubles on a swing but I know the VH is sensitive and I'm just going to have to learn the right movement

[fluid owl]

He's calling but I don't know what for

[frigid python]

DO EEEEEET
If you have the time 🙏

[trim pivot]

That means you went over and above his step requirements. Great job 🔥

[fluid owl]

oh cool! thanks!

[brisk mortar]

Is there ways to disable certain functions?

[dim magnet]

You can ignore certain functionality, and a few of the calls are bonus only

[brisk mortar]

Hmm but like feeding can’t be ignored I’m assuming? Or the like Digimon having different sub types?

[dim magnet]

The mon has always had different personality

Feeding is primarily tied to mood, so for the most part if you keep the mood up you don't have to worry about it. The poop and hunger call do require action, but the poop call can be avoided. Hunger is the only mandatory call

The calls happen infrequently enough that it shouldn't pose too many issues even if you ignore all of them, as long as you keep mood up

[brisk mortar]

Oh okay gotcha I manly use this for fitness so I didn’t wanna worry about raising it like normal vpets

Appreciate the explanation

[vernal summit]

to clarify, its a setting or is it something else?

[dim magnet]

Just literally ignoring things

[vernal summit]

ah ok

[fluid owl]

Any way to find the pendulum goals?

[dim magnet]

Experiment

[fluid owl]

Lol will do I've managed about 55

[turbid notch]

Ot sure has alot of new stuff that need to learn xD

[white flint]

Damn. I might reach out to them... Just ordered a package day before yesterday... Guess that probably won't arrive ever then ;_;

[nimble willow]

I tried to install it, but it kept saying it's not the same ROM. What do I do with that?

[dim magnet]

Did you uninstall the old version first?

[nimble willow]

Yeah... that's the thing I completely forgot to back the old one into my pc

[dim magnet]

Well, you're stuck

[livid pendant]

[turbid notch]

Ish... thats... thats a problem...

[dim magnet]

Always keep a copy of your backup

[turbid notch]

Yep.

Btw, at the count of 5, Vorvomon throw a TeraHit! 😄

Interesting. In the TeraShot, first will throw a Critical Hit, then a normal hit. So os basically like attack twice in one turn! 😮

Worst tamer ever...

[nimble willow]

Well that's sucks, it's a good thing the Vital Hero currently cheap right now. Planning to buy the Wolf Howl version.

[lapis heron]

This is so cool I may just have to buy a Virtual Hero, I only have the BE. Can we use hacked Dims? So I can get Dorimon?

[trim pivot]

Ya, you can use modded DIMs

Just used a modded DIM with Loogamon on my DLink. Sprite wise, you can put anything you want on a DIM and use it.

[cyan geyser]

Only the forest background changes based on the time of day, right? I can't imagine the dim one somehow does too

[trim pivot]

Ya only the Forest background

[cyan geyser]

Gotcha, that's what I figured but the nu metal empire background made me unsure

[livid pendant]

How do you force your digimon to sleep

my vital is very low

[trim pivot]

Hold A and B on home

[livid pendant]

oh ok

Thanks

[trim pivot]

If your Vitals are low, Pendulum Training gives + 50 VP

[livid pendant]

It's the heart

[trim pivot]

And all training reps give +30

OH

[livid pendant]

It almost turns all red

[trim pivot]

Yikes! you know what you're doing then

[trim pivot]

I can see how's NME could do that. I'd be cool if the VB system allowed transparency to make all backgrounds dynamic by using overlays, but it's a basic image system.

[livid pendant]

Or more like I successfully screwed up something

[balmy sage]

weird that its for the hero and not the be, cause like, cant the be handle more stuff mod wise?

[dim magnet]

The BE is actually a lot more restrictive with space. For this version we already had to cut a lot of graphics due to how much space they take, and with BE's current firmware already being basically full for graphics space, it's unlikely that this can be ported without further cutting the graphics

[balmy sage]

I see, ty

[cyan geyser]

How do I make this guy poop?

[dim magnet]

Feed it

[cyan geyser]

Ooooh

[dim magnet]

What goes in has to come out

[cyan geyser]

Oh sorry, I mean, when he has the poop icon, I can't figure out how to make him go

[dim magnet]

Hold A

Most of these things are explained in the manual

[cyan geyser]

Ah thanks!

I think I just missed the new manual. I tried unzipping the download file on my phone and only noticed the old one

[hardy quiver]

How are activity types determined? is it just randomized when digimon is born or each time they digivolve?

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@hardy quiver has evolved into Baby I!

[dim magnet]

They are defined on the Dim

[cyan geyser]

Oh I found it 🤦‍♂️

[hardy quiver]

oh ok I see it now, didnt notice it earlier when planning my custom DiM for this

[teal jackal]

Having fun with the pendulum function, and I love the way adventure mode works now. Feels way more engaging

Was able to find the tera hit count for my stage 5, but having trouble finding the mega hit. If you guys don't mind giving a hint, what's the general range between the two? And is mega always higher/lower than tera?

Also want to add thank you for making things generally more legible. I love the forest background but it was a little hard to see the white text with it sometimes

[random steeple]

Hi, new to this mod. Just saw the funny trailer off twitter. Is it possible to use with Vital Bracelet BE or is it only for Vital Hero

[finite garden]

Vital Hero Exclusive

[trim pivot]

One of the aspects of the Pendulums I’ve always loved is experimenting and discovering the shake counts. I want to keep that magic intact, there aren’t any hints that wouldn’t spoil things too much.
when you do figure it out, and I know you will 🔥, I believe you’ll feel really satisfied and accomplished. Also, great job practicing and mastering the Pendulum enough to land a Tera Hit you’ve come a long way since your earlier post 💪.
With that said, if the community wants to share findings and collaborate, I’m all for it. Two tamers have already shared some Pendulum shake insights above.

[random steeple]

ooff unfortunate. Its really amazing and mindblowing to see how huge this mod really is. @trim pivot I'm in awe and tip my hat to you for this amazing project

wish it was available for VBE but it is what it is

[stray roost]

There needs to be a bot that tells everyone to real the manual, and also say this ain't for the BE.

Like congrats on the mod, you all put so much work into it, I'm sorry you have to deal with the same 3 questions repeatedly because people can't read a few pages of a manual

[past hull]

Congrats to the creators of the mod!! Im trying to install it on my VH with the previous versions installed and I get an error while backup that says "No original ROM"

[eager harbor]

@past hull has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[past hull]

should i return to stock firmware?

[finite garden]

Yep as per readme return to stock then update

[past hull]

thanks, trying now

[trim pivot]

Appreciate that 🔥
I chose the VH for this project for several reasons. It’s currently available at liquidation prices, easy for most fans to get. The wave of new people playing the VB for the first time because of cheap VHs on the market. Plus, VH can use VS DIMs.

The BE, is becoming more rare and expensive nowdays since it was never localized outside of Japan and Asia. Plus, the whole VB series has had quality control issues, especially fragile buttons which has been a major problem for many. By choosing the VH, I wanted fans to have an advanced VB experience without worrying about breaking their one usually expensive BE, instead they can have a stock of affordable replacements if needed.

There are also technical limitations with the BE. It can’t fit everything Digimon Link offers; adapting it would require cutting graphics and possibly some of the cooler features.

That said, there’s room for fans to own both a BE and a VH modded with Digimon Link, especially with VH prices around $11–$15 (or just £3.99 in some cases in the UK) About the amount of a Fast food combo meal.

[bronze plover]

I just bought a cheap VH to get this mod. Can’t until it arrives. Thank you so much for such a cool mod!

[stray roost]

I didn't realize just how many sound effects there are on the VH, cycling through them for the alarm and there are a bunch I've never heard before.

[stray torrent]

out of curiosity, what does a 'vb mismatch' error mean? I got that while trying to restore the original firmware

i wasnt able to find it in the error text table

unfortunately i dont have a photo of it, i was clicking through the menu too fast and accidentally deleted the firmware ☠️

[finite garden]

Mothra Leo is enjoying telling me what to do! ❤️

[candid thistle]

Never actually had a pendulum before (before the vb i've been exclusively on anime digivices and never even touched a vpet) so getting used to the pendulum function is taking a bit

but after a while i did discover what count my Kausgammamon needs, 13 to do a tera

does it depend on the type of personality? Kaus is an active type

[fluid owl]

Hey when your Digimon is tired and wants a nap, how long should you let it sleep for?

[random steeple]

Thanks for breaking down the reasoning. Unfortunately for me the price of a VH here is around 80 bucks local currency, which translates to 4-5 days worth of groceries, so maybe in the future when I have some spare cash. And I do apologise if I asked the same question people have already asked. I would recommend maybe pinning the manual/FAQ if possible to deter dumb2s like me

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #47 - 42)

[silk sequoia]

Is it just necessary my computer to install the mod in the VH or do I need any kind of hardware or to build up any electronic thingy?

I'm new in this but I'm wishing to use the mod

[livid pendant]

just follow the guide on the pdf

included in the zip file

[dim magnet]

You need to use the same UM that you originally installed the mod with. The backup is tied to the individual device

[dim magnet]

You'll need a Dim programmer

[silk sequoia]

Ok, I hace just found the website that explain all the pieces

Thank you!

[stray torrent]

Interesting, it was the same backup for that device
My other one restored fine it was just a mismatch on the second one for whatever reason

Thanks though!

[fathom venture]

Offtopic, where can i browse and or buy custom shells for vb?

[livid pendant]

How do you put digimon to sleep?

like when they have zzz bubble

[stray roost]

Check the manual

[dim magnet]

The manual on D/H in this case, because that's a stock feature

[livid pendant]

So it's just a nap?

A+B?

yeah it is

[turbid notch]

What do you want, boi? Wanna go for a treasure hunt? I can't boi, i have stuff to do at the office so i can pay for nice things.

[cyan geyser]

I really love the variety of calls

[hollow drum]

Update: Normal Activity Type 'mons Tera Shot on ||5 shakes|| and Mega Hit on ||8 shakes||

[vast trout]

i must say, there's something mighty lame about sharing the shakes for an activity type that nearly everyone has

Anyhow, didn't realise that continuous training makes it impossible for the bracelet to last more than 12 hours

[dim magnet]

Welcome to finding out what people on the BE has for a couple of years

The battery life on the VB series is indeed not great, and even more so if you keep the screen on

[vast trout]

Been a real long time since I've actively used a modded BE, but even that was a noticeable battery muncher there

Do still wonder why the green lights are there

[hollow drum]

Excuse me?

[dim magnet]

Capturing heart rate has always been a part of hard missions

[vast trout]

Just makes me wish the types were more varied is all

Don't think there's many other ways to have some variety in tera/mega hits

[hollow drum]

Oh, gotcha

[turbid notch]

Ooooh I see what you mean. No, it sounds totally bad when I read it xD

[hollow drum]

I thought you were saying it was lame of me to share the numbers 😅

[turbid notch]

Yeah, me too xD

[vast trout]

Oh nah, they're already spoilered as is

...actually heck, not sure how else to put that musing

[turbid notch]

Btw. There isnt ANY mod about the battery, isnt it? Like change the battery for a better one?

[dim magnet]

If it's the same (or smaller) size and voltage, it should work, but you'll have to desolder the old connection

[turbid notch]

I can desolder/solder, that wont be an issue. The battery is what worries me :x

I will try to see if i can find the battery values, and see if i can get something around.

[candid thistle]

good to know, that means that for Active Activity Type Tera Shot on ||10 shakes|| and Mega Hit on ||13 shakes||

[cyan geyser]

Oh so heart rate still matters without untethered? I'd assumed it wouldn't be used for anything any longer

[dim magnet]

There's no reason to completely remove heart rate. It's just the untethered status specifically that has been mostly disabled

[cyan geyser]

Ah gotcha. What does it do? Just contribute to vitals?

[dim magnet]

That and exercise level, which affects mood

[cyan geyser]

I'd always assumed it was just a check to see if the device was on or not

Ah interesting

Hmm. Now I'm wondering if I should do the shell mod 🤔

[candid thistle]

me just to be sure i'm still using the "put a piece of reflective anything in front of the laser" to make sure to trick it into thinking i'm wearing it all the times

[cyan geyser]

I'll start looking around for something shiny. Still waiting for the screws to put together my shell

[frigid python]

My concern as well.
I have a modded VB and a reshelled BE that barely last a day. Kinda wish they had better battery, a better option would be lovely

[candid thistle]

a piece of tinfoil taped on the back also works 👌

[lunar lantern]

does mega hit add 5hp or 4hp and 2 dp? or is it only different for when its a vs battle?

[cyan geyser]

Ah, thanks! I'll try that

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @candid thistle (current: #668 - 1)

[turbid notch]

It should be, but not...THAT sure....

[crude reef]

Quick question on the new mod, if I have the sound off, does it just mute the key presses or will it mute the digimons calls when they need attention too?

[round idol]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is k̶̓̆o̶͐̅n̸̊͘g̸̿͘k̸̂̊u̸̓̅n̸̈́̑n̵͗͝k̸̃͑g̷̒̈́k̵̇͠ő̵͓.

[teal jackal]

Active Tera Hits seem to be on ||10 shakes||

[frigid python]

Unimon

[round idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761601978786381824/843922263149379684/unimon.mp4

[teal jackal]

Also I coulda swore I put my real dm to sleep last night but I woke up to him being angry and injured from inactivity. Probably just me being silly, but can they wake up on their own now?

[dim magnet]

It mutes everything except the alarm

[dim magnet]

No

[teal jackal]

Cool, thank you

[crude reef]

Ok, thanks for the heads up

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 542)

[cyan geyser]

I've been loving this so far. One small suggestion to consider for the future. It might be nice to highlight the step requirement on the home page - I find myself going to look at my progress frequently. Even if it was just a "check," a 1, 2, or 3

[twilit bloom]

I forgot to backup the vs dim 😭😭😭😭

[trim pivot]

That can be taken into consideration 🔥 I don't want to put anything on the home screen because I designed the homepage to have a clean look to build the immersive feeling that you're looking into a creature's world, But we could consider pushing the battery over to the right in the date screen and placing small step count down numbers for quick and easy viewing.

[cyan geyser]

Oh that's a great idea too! Any way to reduce presses to get to that would be awesome for me

[twilit bloom]

So since I bought another one and want it on an already existing bracelet would that cause any issues?

[trim pivot]

Only way to get it the update on an already existing Digimon Link is to restore it back to a Vital Hero with the backup file.

Sorry ya got locked out. Cyanic put that in place for needed protective system sustainability reasons. Sucks when it gets ya though, It happened to both me and Dtathemes when we were Beta testing Ver. 1 gotta save your backups

[ashen holly]

Great idea with the mod! Is there already a way to store all the Digimon you train? Like back then in the app?

[dim magnet]

The app still works as usual

Not sure why people have that doubt when it's not explicitly mentioned that it's not compatible

[wicked ridge]

It's wednesday my dudes. That means leg day. What does a modified childrens toy add to the workout of someone that already does reps of weighted squats until failure? A lot actually. The countdown kept me from spacing out to my music between reps. Took like 10 minutes off the time I usually spend on it. So. Hell yeah.

[midnight spoke]

Do you wear your VB as a normal bracelet or was it modified so it’s in your pocket or something out of the way? Because I wear mine as a bracelet with a screen protector, but I’m still worried about the case being damaged when I’m lifting

[twilit bloom]

If I were to use a new vs dim would that work?

[turbid notch]

You know, my father give me one of those bycicles that doesnt move? Dont know the name the english name :v
Its a pain to use it, but yesterday, with the training of the VH, it keep me doing more than i expected.

And thats awesome! The consecutive training was a MUST since de beggining!!

Thank you so much for this proyect. Its sure is amaizing! 😄

[hollow drum]

Is there any reason to keep the backup bin from when I installed the previous version, now that I have the backup bin saved from installing the new version?

[dim magnet]

Once you've restored, you don't have to keep the backup around

[lunar lantern]

does anyone have an answer for this? the research notes say 4hp and 2 dp at #16 but then 5hp at #27 wheb its talking about the vs dim

[finite forum]

I'm sorry if this is explained elsewhere, can someone explain the Pendulum feature? I read the guide but still unsure on how it works.

[dim magnet]

You shake a certain number, and if it corresponds to a target number for your mon's personality, you get a boost in battle

[finite forum]

Ah, is there a way to know what that number is?

[eager harbor]

@finite forum has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[teal jackal]

It's part of the fun of the update, so we're all figuring it out together

A few of us have posted some numbers, search for "tera" or "mega" in this thread and the posts should pop up

[turbid notch]

totally agree

[eager harbor]

@turbid notch has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[turbid notch]

what? :v

[pastel beacon]

Just to clarify, if I am raising Digimon A and set it off on an Adv from Digimon B's DIM, Digimon A will only encounter the Digimon that are listed in Digimon B's Adv mode settings?

[trim pivot]

+4HP and +2DP is the reward for when you shake before in device battles.
+5HP is your reward for Mega Hit when you use Pendulum Training to boost your Digimon for PVP VS DIM battles

[trim pivot]

Only if you had the original backup file and put it in it

[trim pivot]

Your Active Digimon will encounter Digimon from it's DIM

[pastel beacon]

Oh, I see. Well that squashes an idea that I was hatching, lol

[pastel beacon]

On the original Link firmware there was a suggestion in the manual for altering the step counts of the Adventure mode for a more Digivice like play style. Is it still suggested to change the step counts for adventure mode or is this meant to work with the stock numbers?

[trim pivot]

Right now encounters with the stock ADV stage step numbers work great as it creates a great rhythm for Digimon popping up. Stock ADV Child stage is relatively short but it still has room for one or maybe two encounters.

After Child stage, the stock ADV step counts are really good for encounter rates

But at the end of the day, what I just said was subjective to my taste, the whole theme of Digimon Link is "Play your way" So editing the ADV stage step numbers for encounters is something everyone can play around with and see what works best for them.

[fluid owl]

I love that philosophy. I'm thinking on editting the Evo requirements on my custom dim for the digivice feature making them easier to obtain so the later adventure levels aren't a nightmare.

[hardy quiver]

Fear the botamon!

[lunar lantern]

thanks, also i was wondering if the 50% dp bonus with terra shot just applied to the base dp, or any extra dp it might have from power training

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #46 - 43)

[tepid heron]

Potentially dumb question, but how can I get the restore file for the Vital Hero? I want to make sure I have the restore file backed up before I play around with the custom firmware

[livid pendant]

From step 4

You extract it after you finished installing the mod, using the backup menu in dimcard tool

https://youtu.be/7uS9WG9ep44?feature=shared

Here's a video tutorial, shouldn't be different install step wise

[tepid heron]

Thamk

[vast trout]

My power trophies got completely depleted with the evo/base trophies over night

[dim magnet]

Trophies isn't something that gets depleted

At least, the power ones shouldn't on evolution

[vast trout]

Evolution's fine, just not sure if the power ones were supposed to be zeroed out after reverting

[livid pendant]

Power trophy is permanent?

I use Digital Monster one and it goes to 0 after evolving

[dim magnet]

Looks like the current way when evolution occurs, the value isn't saved. I'm actually not sure if it's intended to reset or not. @trim pivot can confirm

[hardy quiver]

love the mod so far

[vast trout]

Just evolved a mon who still had their power trophies in backup, it's all gone now

[frank parcel]

Oh, power trophies are resetting?

[trim pivot]

Earlier on it was intended by me for them to reset as a way to encourage more exercise. During Beta I thought I had a Mon that kept them and decided I liked it better that way. So I didn't ask Cyanic to do anything or check cause I thought they were staying. Odd cause as everyone says they reset. We'll look into it

[vast trout]

I will say, at one point I was wondering if trophies were dropping over time (from like around 160 to 141), but I had put them to sleep soon after and before the device would fully deplete its battery

Something like that would feel like a happy medium, or at least having power decay through other means

[trim pivot]

That is a very cool idea 🔥 I like the idea of slowly depleting power cause it does encourage people to keep their Digimon strong by training constantly. Only thing that I think would be a problem is for the competitive scene. If someone by chance wanted to fight their friends, or have a fan meeting it might be stressful to have to keep maintaining that value

[vast trout]

Aye, though one thing I've always wondered about (especially when I'm mainly using the Ver. Digivice) is that keeping might be a bit tricky against other versions

...though this was more a thing with the previous version with only one set of trophies to worry about

[wicked ridge]

Bracelet, but with a normal watch band because I hate the original ones. The slime when you start sweating... eugh. I just use free weights in my home gym and it's been fine. I've smacked it on the treadmill a few times but in my experience the case is way sturdier than people act like it is. It wear it on hikes too.

[trim pivot]

Ya the trophies being separate is something I also considered when changing my mind that the Power trophies should stay. I want to encourage exercise for people who use it in that way. I also don't want it to become grindy and annoying either, that could happen if you have to keep training power trophies and evo trophies after evolution.

[vast trout]

Even having a low tier mega (albeit in a perfect mood with full vitals) with said 160-or-so trophies almost completely breaks adventures, or at least I only came out with a single loss over at least 4 hours

Never did look into how many bouts there were, or really thought about how they trophy power would've compared in the last version to the adventure stats tweaked according to the manual

[trim pivot]

Ya, the Trophy power will work in addition to the Pendulum power 🔥

160, for Ver 1 and still even in Pendulum with stronger bosses is definitely in the expert advanced tamer range 🔥 I'm not surprised you had the experience you did in ADV

[cyan geyser]

It's interesting to hear how folks use the training. I use my VB as sort of a habit tracker and motivation to move more (if I complete a habit I'm tracking, I get a trophy). The split between power and Evo trophies makes it so getting more is always a good thing (whereas before I might have gone over an Evo req). With that use in mind, I do really like that the power trophies are intended to persist. I'll see if my hagerumon keeps his on Evo

[brisk mortar]

How easy is it to adjust the difficulty of adventure mode? I want it to kick my ass unless I train hard to get trophies. Also note I haven’t run it yet so unsure if it’s already difficult or not but was just wondering haha

[brisk mortar]

I use my VB to get fucking huge 💪🏻

[vast trout]

Try'na use it in tandem with lab work, though even now from 6 to 2 it's in the red

Also uh, hard to tell if super bosses are a thing yet with how infrequently I can watch battles, too many one shots

[brisk mortar]

Ayyy fellow lab worker! But yeah the battery is poop 😭

[brisk mortar]

When I get the chance to do adventure I’ll have to look out for them

[round urchin]

I want to be completely sure before i buy anything since i only have jp versions of the vb this only works with the american vital hero release?