VitalWear - VBBE Engine Recreation for Wear OS

[golden cedar]

Yeah, the steps and everything are counting in the samsung health app

[tardy trellis]

Maybe try the force stop thing previously mentioned, I assume you've already done the classic turning it off and turning it back on already lol

[golden cedar]

I restarted my watch and that seemed to fix the steps issue

Yeah, I restarted it twice lol

The life points are still 0 though

[golden cedar]

Is the number above steps something to do with training? I guess that's where I was confused

[viscid barn]

Those are the vital points.

[golden cedar]

Well everything seems to be working perfectly, then. 🤘

Hmm maybe not. Steps arent counting when im doing a mission

[viscid barn]

Steps gain & Vitals gain on VitalWear seem much slower compared to the actual VB/BE.

[clever ice]

Steps on VitalWear uses the OS step counter instead of the accelerometer algorithm used in the VB/BE. This is both easier and more efficient because constantly taking accelerometer readings drains battery.

[golden cedar]

Ah, so what youre saying is i wont see the steps updating but every so often?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@golden cedar has evolved into Baby II!

[viscid barn]

So it shows the same amount of steps that WearOS shows instead of relying on motion for a separate step count, is that correct? For me, the step count seems fine. It's the vital points that don't seem to go up quite as fast. Could it be that my watch's heart sensor isn't working properly? Does VitalWear still reward Vital points for a good heart rate?

[golden cedar]

So apparently the galaxy watch 7 doesn't use wearOS, it uses Tizen

[viscid barn]

No, I'm pretty sure it uses WearOS.

[golden cedar]

Maybe im just not understanding something, but this is what Google says. I try to find my watch using wear os on my phone and it doesn't show up

The steps on the home screen are going up, but they arent going up during an adventure. So it seems something is going wrong along the lines of adventure

[viscid barn]

I think there's a bit of confusion about that. This is directly from samsung.com. If you check the Specs section under OS, it says "Wear OS Powered by Samsung (Wear OS 5)." https://www.samsung.com/us/watches/galaxy-watch7/buy/galaxy-watch7-44mm-silver-wifi-bluetooth-sm-l310nzsaxaa/

The older Samsung Galaxy Watches (3 and under) ran on Tizen.

[golden cedar]

Yeah so the steps are going up normally, but when I go to do an adventure mission (to where I need 500 steps to do battle) the steps wont go up at all.

[viscid barn]

Try leaving it on a mission and check back on it later. Perhaps it updates the steps every so often. For me, if I'm actively looking at it while on a mission, the steps don't update. After some time walking around, the boss battle always triggers.

[golden cedar]

Will do. I'll let you know if it works

I appreciate the help

[clever ice]

Remember that vitals is mostly driven by steps, so a slower step count will also translate to slower vital gains

[fiery turtle]

I’m new to all this, so the discussion a couple nights ago was very informative! One question, though. Is VB Helper not released yet? I tried looking it up, but am having trouble finding it.

[clever seal]

VB Helper isn't out yet no

[clever ice]

Actually the Naca released a very early alpha earlier this week because people were trying to build themselves to get access to it.

[clever ice]

You can find it in the project threads: https://discord.com/channels/761581682686951455/1325936394207625267

[clever seal]

Yeah I should have been more accurate and said "VB Helper doesn't have VitalWear support yet"

[left grotto]

[jaunty kettle]

once the VB Helper is ready and the new version of the Vital Wear releases, with a little bit of marketing the community "we'll" have will be huge. Can´t wait for it

[modern palm]

Honestly I can see how the custom dim community is fiending for a pvp option regardless. VB Helper is gonna be massive for that day 1

[fiery turtle]

Thank you all for answering! I’ll try out VB Helper and get familiar with it in anticipation for the Vital Wear update!

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@fiery turtle has evolved into Baby I!

[clever seal]

As someone who makes custom Dim and BE Memory Cards myself, I can say this without any shadow of a doubt: You're absolutely correct.

[modern palm]

I still gotta run your megaman dim, loved how you handled it

[misty birch]

Hello! I am just seeing that this is a thing and its super exciting. I got the original vital bracelet and then the BE after it released, but I'm returning to it as I'm in a digimon craze.

I have a couple questions (sorry, there are a few years worth of information on here and I can't sift through everything).

1. I have a samsung gear sport watch - is that supported?

2)I've looked for the firmware update for 1.0.B like the instructions say on the ReadMe file, but can only access 2.0.A on the bandai website. Is this firmware update okay?

3. I have no clue how to upload the apk to my watch if it is compatible. Is there a apk to watch guide for non-tech dummies out there?

I'm sure I will have more questions, but those are just the beginning 😅 Anything helps! Sorry for all the requests, just trying to get a handle on things.

[viscid barn]

Hi and welcome!

1. Only watches that run Wear OS work. Unfortunately, I believe the Samsung Gear Sport watch runs on Tizen. Samsung Galaxy Watches 4 and up run on Wear OS.

2. Currently, only firmware 1.0.B is supported, but I believe cfogrady is working to make version 2.0.A compatible in his next release. You can grab the needed firmware here: https://toy.bandai.co.jp/special/vbbedl/VBBE_10B.vb2

3. I used an app called Bugjeager. You can transfer files from your phone to your watch through ADB using the mentioned app. I'll see if I can hunt down the guide that shows how it works.

[misty birch]

Thank you! That is super helpful. I've been needing to upgrade my watch anyway 😏

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #248 - 6)

[clever ice]

Yup... Support for importing with the 2.0.A is already implemented in my branch, just need to finish it off...

[mystic helm]

Hey everyone, how's it going? I had a question. What does the save function in the vital wear do? Forgive me if I overlooked it somewhere. Thanks guys

[modern palm]

I assume its a way to save everything you've done in case it crashes in a bad way

[viscid barn]

I thought it was for saving your settings config, like background choice, etc.

[clever ice]

It's for saving progress if you're, for example, about to power off your watch. It saves automatically under most conditions, so under most conditions you don't need it. I think the primary case is steps and vitals within the last 5 minutes when you're about to turn the watch off and back on

[mystic helm]

Thank you for the response. Ngl, this is the coolest thing ever. I can't wait until we can transfer them from the vital wear to save them. Something about deleting digimon feels wrong lol

[bleak tiger]

that link just has a bunch of gibberish show up on my browser, am I missing something?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@bleak tiger has evolved into Baby I!

[weary geode]

Download, don't open it

[winged hedge]

Hey guys, sorry to bother you all, I installed Vital Wear but I don't have a Vital Bracelet to be able to import the cards, is it possible to do it without it?

i have all the bin files but i dont have the bracelet

[weary geode]

This project is not intended as a way to facilitate piracy, you will need to acquire the physical device and cards

[winged hedge]

I know that and you guys must have your reasons, but I really wanted to play lol, I gave my bracelet to my little brother

I can't even play the modified ones?

[weary geode]

Correct

[modern palm]

It requires you to scan your actual vital bracelet and utilize your dim card with it

[winged hedge]

Actually you dont need to

What can i do with it now guys, how it evolves?

Is there any way to increase the screen size?

[high mason]

Hey guys, I'm sure this comes up a lot lol but is anyone able to send me the VBBE_10B.vb2 firmware directly; or share a link wherein it's hosted by a third party please?

The toy.bandai.co.jo page is broken 💔

[winged hedge]

https://humulos.com/digimon/vbbe/manual/

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@winged hedge has evolved into Baby I!

[winged hedge]

go to firmware updates

[clever ice]

I assume you modified the code to get that to work.

[viscid barn]

https://toy.bandai.co.jp/special/vbbedl/VBBE_10B.vb2
The link still works fine. You need to download it, don’t open it.

[high mason]

Thanks guys the ware is now 10B worth of firm and the smart watch arrives later today—excited asf

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @winged hedge (current: #658 - 1)

[high mason]

Thank you SwayStation I've been using my phone exclusively as my PC's WiFi receiver failed a couple days ago and it's all a bit counterintuitive on here lol

[white remnant]

I can load the firmware on my watch just fine
It won't load the dim bins

[viscid barn]

Check out this detailed guide that Seiten Taisei WarOmnimon wrote up:
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It seems that most people having issues loading the DIMs aren't able to do it because they don't correctly connect to the VB & and don't verify the DIM.

[modern palm]

Has anyone else had issues getting this to do Gammamon BE? I noticed it wasn't working with Vital Wear, I tried it in VB Helper and its also having issues. No problems with other BE cards Ive tried. What happens is I touch the bracelet to the phone, then rather than asking for me to insert my dim card I get a quick load on the BE and then it wants me to touch again

And then long loading on the BE ending in fail

[clever seal]

When connecting to VitalWear via the app used to send Dims and BEMs to your phone, it's actually supposed to do long loading and then fail on the BE. The app should still connect to the watch and send the Dim / BEM over just fine.

[clever seal]

To follow up on this, the exact post I made and is being referred to here is this one:
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[modern palm]

Yeah but the BE is still supposed to ask me to use the dim card, its not doing that

It is funny that you responded though, Im doing this specifically to run your megaman dim lol

[clever ice]

The BE won't ask you to do it, if the DIM card is already loaded. It will just expect you to tap the app again.

[modern palm]

I see, thanks!

[clever seal]

Quoted for truth

I actually load the Dim / BE Memory Card I'm going to authorize before connecting to the app for that very reason

[modern palm]

Thats good to know

[glossy ibex]

Is there a way to remove a loaded card from the watch once its been loaded and sent over?

[viscid barn]

Not in the current version. The only way to remove it is to clear the app’s data files, but that would remove all your loaded cards as well as all the mons you’ve raised.

[glossy ibex]

I thought that might be the case. Just wanted to make sure before i started loading cards i wasnt too interested in. Thanks for the response.

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #226 - 7)

[viscid barn]

Hey everyone, here's a guide I put together for "pushing apk files to your watch using Bugjaeger." It should be helpful to those who are just getting started with VitalWear.

[viscid barn]

I was able to load the Gammamon BE dim on VitalWear last night. On your VB, did you already have the Gammamon BE dim loaded?

[marble dawn]

Which fitness apps does can it pull from? I assume Google Fit but any others supported?

[marble dawn]

Reason why I ask is I am using Samsung Health and stats are syncing between phone and watch app for it but VitalWear is not picking up the step counts

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@marble dawn has evolved into Baby I!

[modern palm]

Oh you have to manually give Vital Wear all its permissions

I dont remember what it pulls from, but if you go to permissions in settings and go to vital wear you just give it every permission it could want

Without doing so it will just not keep track of steps

It wont use any of the features that require permissions until its given those permissions

[marble dawn]

Watch app or phone app? Phone app only has Sensor permissions as an option and I've given the watch app notifications, sensor, physical activities and set it to not pause

[clever ice]

It doesn't pull from a fitness app... it calls the android watch APIs. If you take off the watch and are expecting it to sync with a step count on your phone, that won't work

at least not with the current design

[glossy ibex]

You have to give the watch app the permissions

[marble dawn]

I am wearing the watch and really just using Samsung to see if device itself is recording steps. It's showing them there but not from the APIs Vital Wear is supposed to be pulling from 😖

[clever ice]

Best guess would be a permissions issue... Might be worth trying to force close the app and restart it.

For better or worse Android has updated a lot since my last update, and I think broke some things...

[marble dawn]

Same thing but that does prompt some questions about the API calls it is using. Are they connected to Google Play Services at all? Are they running natively on the watch or API calls from phone to watch?

[modern palm]

Should be natively on the watch. Like it can work without your phone being near

I know because I just visited my family and forgot my phone with them, still works despite my phone being over 100 miles away lol

[marble dawn]

Okay now it is counting the steps/movement when I do training but not anything else.

[clever ice]

Natively on the watch purely using the Android Sensor APIs.

[marble dawn]

After doing training it's working perfectly now. Also you can now mark the project compatible with GrapheneOS in case anyone asks. It's just a minor pain to get Galaxy Wear to pair the watch initially

[smoky oak]

i can buy this one to use VitalWear? https://a.co/d/c5JXf9U

[marble dawn]

Yes, it does not support BE DIMs but it's a cheap entry point and it supports a large amount of the ones that were released.

[smoky oak]

would it work with custom DIMs that are BE?

cant even seem to find BE anywhere to buy online lol (from canada)

[modern palm]

It would not work with custom dims that are BE. However if theres specific digimon you want from BE there may be custom dims that have them. You could also consider making custom dims that are like BE lite dims

[edgy agate]

That's the Vital Hero. You cannot play Vital Wear on that. For that you need to buy a compatible smart watch.
If you had you're heart set on that device,
There is a mod for the Vital Hero you're looking at called Digimon Link. If you're looking to mod DIM cards then the programmer you'll need is the same used to install Digimon Link.

[smoky oak]

i have a smart watch to use vital wear but it needs to pair to a real vital hero to work, i believe

[edgy agate]

Oh ok, read the context wrong. Apologies, I didn't want you getting your hopes up buying a Vital Hero exspecting to play Vital Wear

[tawdry granite]

Wait thats very nice. I was getting GOS on Pixel10 ProXL when it comes out lmao.

[glossy ibex]

Is Jogress evolution possible on the vitalwear?

[clever ice]

Should be

[glossy ibex]

cool, just working towards one now so i'll confirm when i get there

[marble dawn]

Yeah, permissions are the only thing that will probably trip you up. For Galaxy Wear and I assume the equivalent for other Wear OS devices need all permissions granted and the sandboxed Google Play services needs nearby devices enabled before it will successfully pair with GOS phones

[low wing]

@glossy ibex it definitely does. I've jogressed 4 or 5 times now.

[glossy ibex]

awesome, just wanted to make sure before i spent ages waiting for something that wasnt gonna happen lol

[low wing]

@glossy ibex I get it. Lol. I was stressing too. I never jogressed on the VB, I learned after a few days they need to be in main and support.

[marble dawn]

How do you set as support?

[glossy ibex]

on the "characters" selection screen, hold on the digimon you want as support and theres an option to set as support, this is also how you can delete mons you dont want on your watch.

[tawdry granite]

I have Pixel Watch 3, but I assume everything would be the same in terms of granting their app permissions.

Gonna wait until P10ProXL is even supported before getting it bc google being trash isnt new and now GOS basically has to reverse engineer just like every other OS.

Probs gonna take a few weeks after launch

[marble dawn]

With the next update will we have to reimport our cards or will the revision keep the app data intact?

[clever ice]

Because of an issue with the signing key, next version will be starting over from scratch as far as data 🙁

[glossy ibex]

What happens if you try to import a card with the same name as one already imported. For example, I import Primal Warriors, but then edit the dim with lower evo requirements and reimport with the same name Primal Warriors. Would I end up with two Dims on the watch with the same name or would the lower evo dim overwrite the original. Or would it just not import at all?

[clever ice]

I think it would either error, or overwrite... but I don't recall for sure.

[viscid barn]

In the current version, if you import a card with the same name as one already imported, it gives an error "import failed" or something like that. I've tried it many times and it never did an overwrite, only a "failed" message. For now, the only way to delete and reimport DIMs is to wipe the app data and start all over.

[open latch]

Is there a way to load custom dims in the vital wear?

And if there is which version is the most recommended

[glossy ibex]

Thought I'd give it a try and got the same issue. Messed up a custom i just made and had to fix it. Now I have two with the same name but one with (fix) at the end so I know the good one lol

[open latch]

by "custom" you mean a custom dim?

[glossy ibex]

Yeah, one I put together using sprites collected from other Dims.

[open latch]

Okay that answers one of my questions about the vitalwear

[open latch]

thanks

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @glossy ibex (current: #661 - 1)

[open latch]

So the version needed for the custom dims is the latest?

[glossy ibex]

If you mean the Vital Wear Os on the watch then yeah. I wasn't even aware there's another version tbh

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@glossy ibex has evolved into Baby II!

[open latch]

Idk that either

[glossy ibex]

Got my jogress today! Very happy it worked.

[open latch]

What I'm asking is which version is needed for custom dim

[viscid barn]

0.4.1 beta is the latest release. Custom dims for sure work on that version.

[low wing]

@glossy ibex nice! What digi?

[wooden lagoon]

@low wing has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[open latch]

I didn't mean the app itself it's the firmware I'm asking

Ik where they are so I'm asking which firmware I need to import

Like the latest aka 20a

[viscid barn]

Only 1.0.B is compatible with it at the moment. cfogrady already has worked on implementing the latest firmware into his next release of VitalWear.

[open latch]

Okay thanks

[glossy ibex]

Ahh. It needs to be as @viscid barn said, only works with that specific firmware at the moment. Sorry for the confusion

[wooden lagoon]

@glossy ibex has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[open latch]

np!

[glossy ibex]

Mastemon! Combo from two custom Devimon and Angemon dims

[marble dawn]

Will that be the case with future updates or is it just an issue with this upcoming one?

[clever ice]

Just this update. My SSD got completely corrupted at the beginning of this year and the signing certificate for VitalWear releases wasn't backed up elsewhere 🙁
Because I need a new signing certificate, it is treated as a completely different application and can't share or pull data from the old version.
0.5.0 will include the ability to send characters to VBHelper, I will also backup the new signing key so this doesn't happen again.

[low wing]

@glossy ibex nice. Looks awesome.

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@low wing has evolved into Baby I!

[north cloud]

Howdy Peeps!

Hoping to get VitalWear on my Samsung Watch 7 but I've absolutely no idea what I'm doing(not overly techy I'm afraid), I downloaded to zip from GitHub but no idea what to do now lol

Hoping someone can give me a little guidance as this would be amazing, I have to wear my watch for fall detection and the VB is rather chunky on my other arm

[marble dawn]

There should be two apk files in the zip, A companion app and the Wear app. The companion app you install on the phone by running the apk. Now the wear apk is tricky, you need to enable development mode on the watch via Settings -> About Watch -> Software information -> Tap Software Version 7 times to enable it

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@marble dawn has evolved into Baby II!

[marble dawn]

In Developer options enable ADB debugging and WiFi debugging making sure watch and phone are on same WiFi or use Hotspot on phone.

Install an application that connects to watch in debug mode. I used this and it's companion app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.geminiman.wearosmanager

Use that to connect to the watch and side-load the Wear app on the watch

[smoky oak]

is there any positives/negative to allow BEM battle any franchise and DIMs
like any downsides to having like a demonslayer or mha character be able to battle from any franchise? lol

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@smoky oak has evolved into Baby I!

[viscid barn]

I've shared this in the past, but will continue to reference it again because it's well put together. If you still need more help on getting VitalWear setup on your watch, here's a detailed guide written by Seiten Taisei WarOmnimon:
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And here’s a detailed guide I put together on how to use Bugjaeger to sideload apps onto your watch:
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[peak maple]

I will try and wait until the new release to install it since I'd have to do it all over again, do you know when that is looking to release, if it will be a while I'll just do the old one anyways and redo lmao

[clever seal]

Thanks for the shout out! 🙂

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #195 - 8)

[clever ice]

I'm hoping to get something out before end of September

Right now I'm working on something that I hope will speed up my development a little.

[peak maple]

Oh that's not too far out I'll just wait, thanks for answering!

Hope it goes well! 😁

[wet tendon]

Sorry if this has been asked, there's just a lot to go through. Is there a way to pause the evolution timer? I thought putting the digimon to sleep would do that but it doesn't seem to

[clever seal]

The best workaround is to start a "dummy character" (For lack of a better term) and put it to sleep when you want to pause the evolution timer. Once you want to resume the evolution timer, wake the "dummy character" up, switch back to the character you were working on, and either delete the "dummy character" or save it for using for this purpose later. It's functionally similar to switching to the generic silhouette avatar on the Vital Bracelet BE, except that you need to create a "dummy character" to do this on VitalWear.

That's actually what I do when freezing progress on VitalWear.

[marble dawn]

Yeah, if memory serves this is a BE engine thing and not exclusive to VitalWear

[sacred halo]

How do you delete a character?

[viscid barn]

Go to Menu -> Character. Swipe down to the character you want to delete. Tap and hold on the character’s image. Another menu will popup that says select, support, or delete. Select “delete” to delete the character.

[wooden lagoon]

@viscid barn has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[clever seal]

This

SwayStation beat me to answering your question, I was out for lunch at the time you asked so I'm not surprised I was beaten to the punch there LOL

[tawdry granite]

Is it possible to give the wearos app a different image? I know I can access it from the complexion or whatever its called on my watch face where it shows the mon, but I still like having the stuff I used displayed on my favorite apps watchface and such.

[clever ice]

Yes... I just haven't found an icon I like from Gemini (it's been a while since I tried to generate one, might have better luck nowadays)... I'd also be happy to have somebody create one for me. I feel like somebody might have while I was busy... I need to go back and check... But yeah... basically I just need a good icon, that doesn't violate bandai's copyright on character designs.

[tardy trellis]

Yeah I got confused what the app was when I came back to my watch, perhaps a simple icon as a temp measure perhaps something as simple a like V-W but the W is the heart beat pulse thing

Quick 2 min thing in paint, something like this but from someone that actually knows art design lmao

[jaunty kettle]

Hi guys, i was on a vacation on return just now to discord and it´s incredible to see the progress that these projects are doing, both the VitalWear and the VB Helper.
I just have one question, i already have everything ready to play the game on my watch but since we are going to lose our mons when the next update comes im playing normally on my vital bracelet be. What i want to know is, the mons that im raising on the BE, will i be able to transfer them to the VitalWear or the VB Helper?

[marble dawn]

You should be able to move them to VB Helper or VB Arena for now. Just be aware that for now there is a risk of loss of any digimon stored in helper ATM when new version comes out

With next update VB Helper support will be added to VitalWear. So you can use the BE to raise and move non critical digimon to VB Helper for import into VitalWear

[jaunty kettle]

thank you for the info and for the clarification. I will wait for the full release, it should not take long. In the meantime i will finish the BE im currently playing and save my mons for when the time arrives 🙂

[clever ice]

That's my plan. Might not be immediate, but I do plan to make that possible.

[crisp fog]

@clever ice in a future update, will Digimon start with a happy mood? I’m asking because in the VB/BE, during the baby2 stage, it’s much faster to reach 1200 vital points to evolve from rookie to champion. In Vital Wear it takes 2–3 days with 6000–10000 steps each day to hit the same 1200 vital points. I think this happens because Digimon are born with a neutral mood (around 4 points per 50 steps)

because in the specific case of VHero only (not scaled like BE), battling to improve mood in the rookie stage (rookie vs rookie) is almost impossible to win against other Digimon. In this situation, it’s more common to lose most battles and actually make the mood worse.

[clever ice]

Right now I start each digimon's mood at 50 (exactly in the middle). If cyanic someday tells me that the firmware sets it to something else, I'll change it... I also wouldn't mind making the starting mood a setting at some point.

[wet tendon]

Is it normal for vital points to reset when the digimon digivolves from phase 3 to phase 4?

[viscid barn]

I thought they reset with every evolution.

[wet tendon]

It never reset during phase 1 through 3 for me

[viscid barn]

Acording to humulos' guide under FAQ, "Vital Values will reset after every evolution except from Stage I to Stage II, or from Stage II to Stage III."

I guess it's normal for the Vital Values in the later stages to reset upon evolution.

[crisp fog]

its normal

[glossy ibex]

Will the next update be able to link to the VB Helper app so we can move characters from the watch to the app and back?

[tawdry granite]

Afaik, that was the next goal

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[clever ice]

That's the plan

[glossy ibex]

Awesome. Can't wait to see the next installment. Thanks for the effort you're putting in, very grateful for your work

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @clever ice (current: #25 - 75)

[wet tendon]

I noticed the DC Comics Dim cards don't work with Vital wear. Any plans on rectifying that with the update?

[wooden lagoon]

@wet tendon has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[clever ice]

I don't have any of the DC cards... so probably not... It's something I would want to look into eventually. I think it stems from them doing something unconventional... but I don't remember the specifics

[glossy ibex]

I knocked up a quick Injustice DC dim using some of the characters across the 3 dims. It was an easy way to get the characters on my watch. So although originals might not work, you can make a custom with the characters you want on

[earnest lodge]

Sorry but where can I find the VBBE_10B.VB2 firmware for the vitalwear?

[viscid barn]

https://toy.bandai.co.jp/special/vbbedl/VBBE_10B.vb2

[earnest lodge]

Thank you

[muted locust]

My English is not good, can you help me?

[muted locust]

what to do next

[dim umbra]

Has the firmware import been finished?
If yes, you need the data from the DimCard or BeMemory.
First of all, you need the equipment and environment to import those data into your PC.
If you don't have it, you cannot use it.

[wooden lagoon]

@dim umbra has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

SHINKA!

@dim umbra has evolved into Baby I!

[safe vigil]

Dear @clever ice
I’d like to ask which smartwatch models are compatible with Vital Wear?

THX

[clever ice]

Any that run Google's Wear OS

[tall pelican]

Hey pixel3 people.

Y'all use any screen protectors you like?

[weary geode]

No

I embrace the chaos

Also my screen is less exposed because I keep it in a metal case

[analog apex]

Has anybody made custom loading screens?

I started working on it yesterday for the animations

I just wanna know if it will be useful

[muted locust]

Hi, my English is not good, I use a translator, I want to know why my Digimon automatically decrements its Vital Values ​​every time I don't look at the watch.

And why is he always sad?

[viscid barn]

It could be a heart rate sensor issue or a lack of movement or activity/not sensing movement or activity. Can't confirm this from manuals, but some have said that losing too many battles might also make your Mon upset.

[viscid barn]

Can you give an example please?

[viscid barn]

If you're looking at Samsung Galaxy Watches, Galaxy Watch 4 and up run Wear OS and run Vital Wear fine.

[muted locust]

OK Thanks

[analog apex]

OK

[analog apex]

These are the raw files

If it continues to wall files, the original animations gone or corrupted

Loading screen

I had to re-create the file

It was mostly me reimagining the vital bracelet loading screen

To be like the logo with itself with chain colored, indicate loading time

Most of my older files are corrupted so my earlier work is just gone

[safe vigil]

So, does that mean the next version will be able to transfer Digimon with another project, "VBHelper"?
If that’s the case, then I really need to get a smartwatch with Wear OS.

[viscid barn]

Yeah. I’m looking forward to this too. I put raising any new Mon on Vital Wear on hold for the time being until the next update. Excited for the ability to store them in VBHelper.

[tawdry granite]

Ive been delaying working on my mons on WearOS because itll likely need a datawipe, which since they cant be transfered off atm, means losing all progress.

Hoping we get that most awaited update soon

[low wing]

I have over 20 digimon on my wear OS. Storage is not a problem in a smart watch. 👍

[viscid barn]

For me, it's not so much about space as it is about completing a Codex. I also prefer my character list to be minimal, even if it has the capability to store hundreds of mons.

[tawdry granite]

Yeah its not a problem on the Watch, but if u wanna store them in an actual app, it just cant be done rn to complete the dex, or anything else such as battles whenever VB Helper gets there in the future .

Also scrolling through 200 digimon on a watch would be painful lol

[hardy stump]

As of now, is there any date where we can expect the new version of VitalWear to be released?
No rush of course, just wanted to have an idea :)

@jaunty kettle >>>>> btw thiso one was my previous account, the one im using now got hacked back in March and recover it recently

[tall pelican]

Oh wow. My battery is not handling VW very well.

I went from 10am to 7pm ish and still was at 90%

Installed VW and went from 90>70 in two hours!

[viscid barn]

I feel like that's pretty normal for me. I have an older Samsung Galaxy Watch 4, and the battery is definitely aged, but i can usually go from morning around 7:00 am to after I get home from work around 5:00 pm before needing a charge. If I'm actively training, then the battery drains much faster. Normal daily activity is usually fine for me though.

My battery is currently at near full charge and estimates 16 hours of use, but in reality it's never like that. That's probably at the lowest settings and usage.

[clever ice]

There was an OS update at some point that made my battery suck too... It's something I mean to investigate before I release 0.5.0.

[tall pelican]

Ah, total bummer.

I recall a number of people in this thread saying it barely affected their pixel3s

[clever ice]

Was shooting for end of Sept... so I need to get working 🙂

[clever ice]

Yeah... it barely affected my Pixel Watch originally... and it hasn't changed in a while now... so I'm pretty certain it was an OS update that broke it

[tall pelican]

Does VW take its own measurements? Or does/can it piggyback off of googglfit/Fitbits readings?

[clever ice]

At the moment it uses the raw sensors directly... It could probably piggyback off googlefit/Fitbit, but originally I was targetting older WearOS devices too which necessitated raw sensor readings

[tall pelican]

Would that ultimately also save battery?

Just asking out of curiosity

[clever ice]

I doubt it... I have my suspicion that it's the off-body sensor that is draining the battery because the interface for it seems to have changed.

[glossy ibex]

Im running VW on a galaxy watch 7 and gotta say the drain on my battery isnt bad at all. its only a couple months old so still a new watch. The only time i see a bit more of an issue is when im running training in the background, then it can drain half the battery in a day. The adventure mode isnt too bad however. But if i just have it on normal stand by mode and do the odd battle here and there, its fine. I find the choice of watch face makes more of a difference to be honest.

[hardy stump]

thank you for the reply and for all the work you are putting into this project :)

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @clever ice (current: #24 - 76)

[tall pelican]

How very typical of Google to actively make their watches worse.

[thorny stream]

planned obsolescence, my behated

[tall pelican]

so frustrated with my old watches and how assistant got progressively more useless to the extent that eventually Everything was either "i didnt understand that" or "let me google that for you"

"set an alarm for 5 pm" "I googled 'set an alarm for 5 pm' here are the results"

[clever ice]

In this case it's more likely a bug in an API that is rarely used in the way I am using it. And/or a slight implementation change that is unlikely to affect anybody unless they happen to be using it in the way I am.

[tawdry granite]

What watch? My Pixel Watch 3 lasts like 3 days

[tall pelican]

Pixel3 45mm

[tawdry granite]

I have the same watch

hm

[tall pelican]

You're saying it lasts 3 days with VW running?

[tawdry granite]

I have it as an app complication on my watches main face

and go into it every so often

[tall pelican]

Maybe you didn't catch the update that CFOGradu mentioned

[tawdry granite]

[tall pelican]

Anyway, I'm not quite done messing around yet, so I'll give it another shot for a longer period of time and see if it's persistently so terrible

[tawdry granite]

update? Im still waiting on the update to release if it randomly hasnt already.

Im waiting till I can transfer off the watch tbh

[tall pelican]

I only got the watch a few days ago,

From what I've seen, I can go a whole day without breaking under 90%....
Until I installed VW

[tawdry granite]

Weird.

Ive been using VitalWear for months now and havent really noticed much of a dip

[tall pelican]

Read a couple posts up,
Google changed something a few months ago that seemingly altered how the API works,

Not a change to VW a change to the watch

[tawdry granite]

Ah. Yeah its weird because even a few months ago I didnt notice any drastic changes and still find my watch lasting 3 days roughly on a single charge.

Still very weird though. Hopefully eventually it just kinda solves itself.

[sinful ruin]

I vaguely remember reading somewhere new watches take a few days to learn usage patterns and battery life should gradually improve, not sure how accurate that is tho

[dim umbra]

I do think the update itself has an impact, but how about turning off any unused features that consume battery power, such as those using sensors for automatic measurement?
The smartwatch I use is an older model, and its battery life hasn't been great since I bought it. I basically charge it every day, so I've turned off those kinds of features.

[dense scroll]

Just got a pixel watch 3, been thinking using this

[abstract yarrow]

The next update for this sold me on taking the plunge for a galaxy watch 8, looking forward to using a better watch for my vital brace

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@abstract yarrow has evolved into Baby I!

[tall pelican]

Best buy has "open box" pixel 3s is what got me to jump on it

[summer roost]

Hi I need some help to make the app work I managed to install it on my samsung watch 5 and the apps load on a green skin with a green box tap it I get a message saying import from phone so i go to my phone open the app there import a card I select one of my .bin tap my phone with the watch the watch reconice something and give me the error Unable to connect to exercise equipment. Try again and just goes back to import card from phone any ideas how to fix it?

[viscid barn]

Make sure on your VB you go to the connect menu and put it into connect mode when the helper app says to connect. Check out the guide here: #1101249544588628110 message

[earnest lodge]

I have the same issue, I imported the firmware and the screen just say new if I tap it ask me to import from phone a card but doesn't seems to work

In the video I clicked the X but if I click the checkmark it thinks then it says that it failed to connect to the exercise equipment

[viscid barn]

You need to verify with an actual VB/VBBE and DIM/BEM cards.

When it says “tap,” it’s referring to connecting your phone to your VB/VBBE.

[dim umbra]

It is easy to misunderstand, but as explained, the Dim is transferred to the smartwatch after being checked by the VB/VBBE unit itself.
It is not possible to have the smartwatch read in place of the VB/VBBE, so the actual device is required.

[earnest lodge]

I see thank you so much

[hardy stump]

~same

[solemn wadi]

I'm also waiting for the next release with my new oneplus watch 2r i bought to use this. Im using the BE on digivice mode untill then. Thank you so much for your work!

[restive abyss]

Been almost a year since I last saw this project, anything cool happend?

[dim umbra]

It appears that the application itself has not been updated since last year, but it is understood that the next update will include the implementation of a feature enabling transfer to VB Helper.

[stark wyvern]

Hi all. First time in the chat here and trying to help out in any way, but i cant seem to find the 1.0.b firmware anywhere. Do we know if 2.0.a firmware was implemented into any of the available betas? I did see that the firmware support did get completed recently but since i cant upload it to the latest available beta, im wondering if im just late to the party. lol

[viscid barn]

Hi there. Only 1.0.B is compatible with it at the moment. cfogrady is currenty working on implementing the latest 2.0.A firmware into his next release of VitalWear. You can find the 1.0.B firmware here:

https://toy.bandai.co.jp/special/vbbedl/VBBE_10B.vb2

[stark wyvern]

The link provided sends me to this web page.

On both mobile and on desktop

[clever seal]

Remember that File > Save As is a thing

If that doesn't work right click > Save As... oh wait, can't do that with links on Discord

[viscid barn]

Try copy and pasting the link instead of clicking it. Edge should give you an option to download.

[dim umbra]

A backup link is available in the firmware update section.
If you are unable to download it, you may wish to try this one instead.

https://humulos.com/digimon/vbbe/manual/

[sour fable]

Hi how does the dims work here once again

[viscid barn]

I'm not fully sure what you're asking, but actual DIMs and a VB are required to verify the DIMs you load onto Vital Wear. You also need a .bin dump of your DIM's.

[vague veldt]

hi i dont have Vital bracelet to import dim form VB. i want to know, can it access vitalwear without VB ?

[weary geode]

It cannot

[dim umbra]

@vague veldt As checks are performed on the actual device during import, this cannot be used if you do not have an actual device.

[fiery kiln]

Is there any news on the VitalWear update?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@fiery kiln has evolved into Baby I!

[floral roost]

How does one do random battles with this app?

[viscid barn]

On the main Vital Wear screen, swipe up to access the menu until you get to Battle. Tap on the screen and it should put you in a random battle.

[floral roost]

I guess it only shows up once my lil' guy Digivolves to Rookie?

[viscid barn]

Yes.

[floral roost]

Thanks!

I've migrated my Pulsemon DIM from my Vital Hero to the app so I'm figuring things out as they come up

[floral roost]

Weird thing though

all the names are in Japanese

[glossy ibex]

The names are taken from the dim card itself so it will be whatever region the card originally comes from. The way round it is to edit the dims and put in the English names with the name generator program then upload it to the app

[floral roost]

I'd need a dim tool for that, right?

[glossy ibex]

Yeah. The alternative would be to try and track down the dims that have already been translated, I believe there are some floating around out there and use them.

[viscid barn]

You can use my DIMNameGen DS tool to generate English name sprites and modify the bins using DIM Modifier.

[floral roost]

I went and renamed all the Digimon on the DIM file, but how do I delete the original JPN file from my watch?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@floral roost has evolved into Baby I!

[glossy ibex]

You would need to erase the data from the app. Not sure if you can just clear the data or it would need to be uninstalled and reinstalled. I haven't tried it myself

[floral roost]

I'll take a look

There we go

Thanks for the help y'all

I have to wonder how my watch tracks punches or crunches lol

I know the VH bracelet just has a shake sensor

[floral roost]

This app is so cool. Thanks cfogrady!

[wooden lagoon]

@floral roost has leveled up! (19 ➜ 20)

[abstract yarrow]

Figuring this out was super easy actually and has been a godsend. Working my way through all the BE Mems and the Dims I own and storing them on my discord server for the big update lol

[clever ice]

News is that I'm a bad developer and have also had a lot of other stuff come up over the past month... 🙁

But I do have everything on my new computer setup... I just need to sync with all the VB Helper updates check for bugs and push a release...

[floral roost]

No rush my dude

I wonder if it's possible to import full circular backgrounds eventually?

[clever ice]

eventually yeah... but not high on my priority list. If anybody else wants to make a PR to add the functionality though I fully support it.

[fiery kiln]

Nah, you’re far from a bad developer! What you’ve created is amazing and a gift to the community! No rush man, sometimes more important life stuff has to come first 🙏🏼

[glossy ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

Simply not true. A bad developer would not be able to pull off the magic you do!

[viscid barn]

Yes! I would love to see this. We actually talked about it earlier this year, back in January 2025. Lately, I've been tinkering on Photoshop and some image generators to whip up some new samples. Will gladly help with creating some, since I know using altered official ones might be out of the question.

Here are some samples of some backgrounds that I'm using in my own project.

[floral roost]

Oh man I'd use the last one

[abstract yarrow]

whoa, that'd be cool especially for battle backgrounds

[viscid barn]

Thanks for the update and for all your hard work @clever ice . We are all excited and can't wait for the next release!

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @clever ice (current: #24 - 77)

[thorny stream]

Reckon a border of sorts'd be better, keep the original backgrounds in style and whatnot

[viscid barn]

I don't mind the idea of a border, but would the Digimon be able to move beyond the 80x160 background? If movement is expanded to the entire watchface, I think the border might make it look strange. But I'm curious to see what it might possibly look like.

I did take a background from the Forest Guardian BEM, upscaled it and filled it. Here's the post from last December with the image: #1101249544588628110 message

[abstract yarrow]

If they remain stationary a border would be cool, but if say during a battle it showed both digimon instead it would probably be better without one

I actually just added a (hopefully) small feature suggestion on github. I think it could be cool to have a complication that displays the support digimon with the same activity type as your primary so that you can
n see them side by side on your watch face

[hardy stump]

@clever ice You're far from being a bad developer! What you are building is huge, and we, digimons fans really appreciate this project. Keep up the good work and take your time, we will be here waiting patiently 🙏

[pine herald]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is the girl reading this (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿)

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@hardy stump has evolved into Baby I!

[hardy stump]

yeet

[floral roost]

How do support Digimon work in this app anyway?

[marble dawn]

Go to your characters list and then press and hold on the Digimon you to set as support. They will then help you in battles and count as jogress partners

[floral roost]

Buddy hasn't jumped in once during a battle lol

[tawdry granite]

Tbh even if its just for static color background like the basic green blue orange or whatever and it fills thatd be good, dont need anything that massive for me at least, but they do look good.

[glossy ibex]

It only happens when your digimon is at half health or less, as kind of a final gambit situation.

[glossy tiger]

Hello everyone, I want to ask if it is possible to get vitalwear working on Samsung Galaxy watch 8?

[viscid barn]

Yes. It works on Samsung Galaxy Watches 4 and up.

[glossy tiger]

I don't know if it's the ONE UI8 but I can't install the app onto the watch

[viscid barn]

What app are you using on your phone to push the apk to your watch?

[viscid barn]

I recommend using Bugjaegar. Here's a guide I put together for "pushing apk files to your watch" using that app.

[glossy ibex]

Bugjaeger is the way I did it also

[glossy tiger]

I tried bugjaegar. But either not connecting or stuck at install/error

[glossy tiger]

But thanks for this, I will try to follow this

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #122 - 14)

[glossy tiger]

Is there a higher resolution version?

[viscid barn]

#1101249544588628110 message

[wooden lagoon]

@viscid barn has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

[glossy tiger]

I got the app working. But where do I find card image?

[viscid barn]

You’ll need to dump a bin file of a DIM you have.

[glossy tiger]

Thanks, finally got the app to work

[wooden lagoon]

@glossy tiger has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

SHINKA!

@glossy tiger has evolved into Baby I!

[glossy tiger]

I can't seems fine the adventure tab in the watch app

[floral roost]

Did you Digivolve to rookie yet?

[glossy tiger]

Not yet, didn't know it's a requirement

[floral roost]

Fresh and Trainings can't do battles

[floral roost]

Uh silly question

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@floral roost has evolved into Baby II!

[floral roost]

How do I turn off supports?

I woke up today and my kyuubimon had jogressed into a Vikaralmon

[viscid barn]

I'm not sure there is a way to remove support once you set one, other than deleting any other characters. I think you can only change them. I would just create another character, keep it in the 1st stage, and set that as the support so you don't get an unwanted jogress. Just be careful of type jogresses.

[floral roost]

Lesson learned for next time

(it's so happy)

[thorny stream]

perky piggy

[floral roost]

I wish I had a watchface with a bigger complication for him lol

He looks so cramped

Sorry Bulkmon

[viscid barn]

Check out Watch Face Studio. You can use this app to design your own watch faces with a bigger complication for your Mon. It should be compatible on any device running WearOS 5 or above.

[fiery kiln]

What face is this?

[floral roost]

One of the default ones from Samsung

[viscid barn]

I believe that watch face is called "Info Brick."

[floral roost]

I'm so DigiCool

[abstract yarrow]

I use this one, called Circle Dashboard think I got it in the wearable app

[floral roost]

Oo

I like that

[abstract yarrow]

It's under informative on the wearable app main menu

Normally I also have the vitals bar on the bottom right but the complication stopped working today and I haven't had a chance to reset the face

[floral roost]

Doesn't seem like it's there for me

Maybe it got removed at some point

[floral roost]

I did find it but had to sideload it onto my watch lol

[slow linden]

Aw man, I shouldn't have sold off my actual VB. Just discovered this thread

Only got the dim cards themselves left

[marble dawn]

If all you have is DIMs then you can pick up a VitalHero for pretty cheap on Amazon. Supports everything but the BE ones

[bleak remnant]

I'm trying to understand the full scope of options for BE modding. I would probably want to install custom digimon and get any QoL improvements available today, but I feel like I'm getting twisted what amount of customization is available and where I could find stuff like custom sprites and recommended mods.

Any advice appreciated

[weary geode]

Start in the pins of #modding_vpets, this thread is just foir a wearOS recreation

[bleak remnant]

whoops, I tumbled into a thread, thanks, will repost there

**after I check the pins

[bleak remnant]

I'm planning on running through the vital bracelet I got as a test case and then deciding if I want to switch over to vital wear so I can get a longer lasting device. Compared to modded VBBE, are there many notable differences in functionality of Vital Wear at this time?

[floral roost]

No transferring to a separate app for storage yet

[tawdry granite]

And when there is transferring, ud need to basicslly data wipe vitalwear afaik to update.

So its best to just use the BE for now if u care about transferring atm. I personally wouldnt recommend +999 stat a mon on vitalwear atm just because ud lose the mons when updating iirc.

[dim umbra]

My personal impression is that, at present, apps other than mods that involve modifying the actual device in some way do not yet match the capabilities of the real hardware.
Indeed, applications like Vitalwear are not final releases but alpha or beta versions. In other words, they are still under development.
Replacing the original software carries corresponding risks, such as bugs that could delete data or potential updates.
If you still wish to proceed with the replacement, it would fall within the realm of your own responsibility.

[bleak remnant]

It's unfortunate cos I do think the appeal of switching off original hardware is high. I am already feeling frustrated at the potentially short lifespan of original hardware

[viscid barn]

Yeah. For me, the main reason I switched was because of the wear and tear of the buttons. I went through 2 VBBEs, and they're not cheap. Also, having a smartwatch with more functions then just telling time and acting as a pedometer is pretty nice. The VBs are quite bulky and look like the toys that they are.

We're excited for the next update to VitalWear because it's supposed to work with the currently in development VB Helper app that allows storage of Mons on the phone. Also, I believe cfogrady said that after this next release, no data loss should happen with future updates of VitalWear.

[clever seal]

I hear you! The only time I even turn my Vital Bracelet BE on anymore is for the Dim / BE Memory Card verification step on the VitalWear helper app. I've pretty much switched to maining VitalWear myself at this point.

[floral roost]

I like VitalWear because I already wear my watch daily, plus the more accurate step counts is pretty nice

Plus being able to manage a whole library of digimon on my watch is pretty neat

[bleak remnant]

Yeah, I think that leaving bandai physical ecosystem is a big win for VW.

Im getting my VH today and have never seen just how bulky it is but heard enough complaints...

[fickle nymph]

Same here! planning to buy a BE again, I sold my 2 BE before I found out that this awesomeness exist! The regret! So, I recently purchased a vital bracelet v and a wear OS and also a new phone with NFC just to try this out! And it feels fantastically satisfying! Next to buy a BE! And after that I'm broke asf 🤣

[floral roost]

I actually had a BE ordered before I found this app lol

I canceled it

[fickle nymph]

You're a living legend

Where to get this watch face?

[fickle nymph]

I have a couple of BEM, and I need a BE for me to be able to put it on VW. But BE nowadays is not cheap 😭

[floral roost]

Oh that's true

I only have DIMs so I didn't care too much

[fickle nymph]

Happy for you 😊

[wooden lagoon]

@fickle nymph has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

SHINKA!

@fickle nymph has evolved into Baby I!

[floral roost]

I think I probably would've gotten the BE if they released BEMs for digilines I liked

(I'm still shocked that there wasn't a DIM/BEM for Tailmon)

[fickle nymph]

Yeah, why is that Bandai?!

[polar turret]

If in the us p-bandai US has BEs for MSRP

50 for the black or white models

[floral roost]

Also an interesting quirk about the VW

Because it scans my health app for steps, it treats my bike rides as steps lol

My Kuzuhamon has a lot of PP thanks to that

[bleak remnant]

Does VitalWear implement the 100h limit that was in the base VBBE? Just wondering if I start raising if I'll be on a clock to get my stats raised

[fiery kiln]

There is a BEM for Tailmon i have it, it’s the D3 White and Red BEM

[fiery kiln]

There’s a dim for Black Tailmon Uver aswell, the Espimon dim

[floral roost]

Oh wow

[viscid barn]

Yes, the 100h limit is also implemented in VitalWear.

[fickle nymph]

not aware since I haven't use those BEM/Dim yet,
although I have both of them with me, bcoz they're still sealed 🤣 silly me!

[bleak remnant]

Without a sleep function, what is the method on the vital bracelet to safely take off your smart watch?

[clever seal]

There is a sleep option in the menu, swipe down until you see it

[bleak remnant]

Is vitalwear still limited to 1 front digimon and 1 backup like BE? curious if I have to store my extra mons in the VB Helper or if I can keep them on my watch?

[floral roost]

You can have an absurd amount of Digimon in your stock

But only one can be selected as a back/support

[bleak remnant]

Love that

so I can, if I want, load in as many DIMs, custom or otherwise, as I want and just cycle between them within my watch?

[floral roost]

Just remember that there's no way to manage dims right now without deleting the whole app data

[bleak remnant]

like I can't load new dims onto the device without going clean slate? that is a very rough situation

I guess I can put stuff on VB Helper, but that doesn't play nice with custom sprites, right? Or at least the arena app didn't afaik

[floral roost]

Oh you can

You just can't delete them

So don't do what I did and have like

RenamonEX
Renamon EX
01Impulse City
ImpulseCity
GuilmonEX
GuilmonEXEng

I wasn't very smart

[bleak remnant]

oh, yeah, only one of each dim

[floral roost]

I made a lot of mistakes because I bought jp dims and forgot to translate them before uploading them lol

[bleak remnant]

I'll learn from your mistakes dw

[open drift]

I'm trying to install the vitalwear on Samsung watch 4 and when I go to import the firmware it tells me that the "training equipment" is disabled, what can I do?

😢

[fickle nymph]

you can to translate jp dims before uploading?

[viscid barn]

Yes. You can use DIMNameGen DS to make English name sprites and DIM Modifier to edit your DIMs.

[bleak remnant]

Does VW automatically transition to new adventures/trainings as they complete?

[tawdry granite]

It does for trainings

Never done adventures yet

mainly bc gaining vitals is iffy for me.

Rn I dont gain vitals and have all perms enabled for the app on the watch.

I run GrapheneOS though so something extra probs needs to be done, so I gotta check chat history for it lol

Hm cant search in threads on my outdated mobile client

[bleak remnant]

Do I specifically need a VBBE to setup VW or is that only necessary for BEMs? If I can setup DIMs fine with VHs on VW that saves the added expense

[viscid barn]

It's only needed for BEMs.

[bleak remnant]

Anyone used this on Google Pixel 3? I noticed it's at its alltime low price since the Google Pixel 4 just dropped so I'm eyeing it

[bleak remnant]

Also do DIMs get updated to have BEM mechanics on this assuming I have "Scale DIM to BEM" activated? I'm curious if I'll be able to get +999 stats in digimon I get onto vital wear from a DIM card?

I guess I'm not certain if that happens on vanilla either

[clever seal]

Yup! If you have "Scale DIM to BEM" activated, stat training becomes available!

[abstract yarrow]

So I've run into an issue with adventure unlocks and I'm not sure if I've messed something up or not. I'm using omnimon zwart from true shadow howl/mad black roar with BEM scaling turned on and I've finished the Ryudamon BE adventure but still can't evolve my Commandramon to Sealsdramon because it says that the evolution is still locked

[viscid barn]

Scale DIM to BEM only works if you have a BEM loaded too. So if you don’t have a VBBE to verify the BEMs to load them, you won’t be able to utilize this option.

If you do have a BEM loaded, when you scale them, you can train your DIM characters to raise them to +999 stats. This feature is definitely not available on the original VBBE.

[viscid barn]

Adventure mode unlocks only work on unscaled DIMs. You will have to complete the Adventure missions with a regular DIM character with no scaled stats.

[bleak remnant]

ah, I see, so it's only scaling the digimon that have BEM versions, not scaling the stats of all DIM digimon to BEM digimon?

I had been thinking it was to balance out DIM power scaling to facilitate battling digimon from any loaded BEM/DIM

[viscid barn]

No, it does scale all DIM Digimon to BEM stats and allows training to raise those stats, even if they don't have BEM versions. Cfogrady uses a formula to scale their stats if there isn't a BEM version of that Digimon. It does help balance it out quite a bit, but from what I've seen, BEM Digimon always have higher stats than scaled DIM Digimon.

[abstract yarrow]

So a normally trained BEM mon will also work, yeah?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@abstract yarrow has evolved into Baby II!

[abstract yarrow]

As long as I don't tick scale to BEM by mistake?

[viscid barn]

In order to unlock an evolution through Adventure mode on a DIM, you must beat it with an original DIM Digimon. It can’t be a scaled Digimon or a BEM digimon. Only a non-scaled DIM Digimon will unlock it.

If it is a BEM, then I believe you can use a scaled character.

[abstract yarrow]

But I'm trying to unlock adventure mode on a BEM and it didn't work with a scaled digimon

So I guess I'll try with a regular BEM mon

[viscid barn]

Sorry, it’s been a really long time since I’ve completed an adventure mode on a BEM on VitalWear. Yeah, a BEM Digimon should be able to complete and unlock the Adventure mode evolution on a BEM.

Also, on this current version of VitalWear, gift Digimon doesn’t work. I think this applies to only a couple of DIMs/BEMs, one being the 25th Anniversary BEM where you would get Dokimon after clearing Stage 3 in Adventure Mode.

[abstract yarrow]

The only one it effects for me is the imperialdramon BEM, but I did notice that

[bleak remnant]

One more question about this: If I only have VH, which is the case for me right now, my understanding from your response is that I will NOT be able to boost my stats and it will instead play like a VH. Can I just get a confirm if this is the case.

I'd like to be able to raise my stats over time since it creates a bit more connection between me and my digimon to have a personalized statline, but I would rather not purchase a VBBE unnecessarily.

[viscid barn]

Yes, that is correct. It will play similarly to a VH, but with many added features. To name a few: support attacks, near unlimited Digimon storage, multiple loaded DIMs/BEMs, a menu button that triggers battles, and others.

In the current version of VitalWear, in order to scale DIM to BEM, you need to have both a DIM and BEM loaded. In order to load a BEM, you will need a VBBE to verify the BEM. If you only have a VH, you will NOT be able to boost your stats.

@clever ice, is it possible and are there plans to change that scale DIM to BEM requirement in a future release?

[clever ice]

That could probably be changed... I know the VBBE battle logic (and thus VitalWear logic) is biased towards the BE stats over the VH stats.

[bleak remnant]

That'd be cool, but def I can imagine there's quite a few things in the queue so no stress if it's not top of the list

I'm going to be engaging with Dlink at least until I clear level 15 of adventure (odyssey) and clear out the current DIM I'm on. Then I'll take a look at Black Friday sales and decide if it's time to finally get a smart watch

for more than just VW of course lol

[fickle nymph]

mine looks like this, now I dunno which dim is which 😅

[viscid barn]

You should be able to rename the DIM to whatever you’d like during the importing step on your phone.

[fickle nymph]

I hope there'll be a way to edit the names you already import someday. thank you so much for your time and dedication to this project, please keep sharing your talent to your fellow digitamers 😁 @clever ice

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @clever ice (current: #24 - 78)

[fickle nymph]

quick question, does the digivolution time progress when you put your digimon to sleep?

[bleak remnant]

psure no

[clever ice]

I believe it does for sleep, but doesn't for storage. Just like the physical bracelets

[dim umbra]

The evolution timer does not stop during sleep mode.
This is the same specification as the actual device.

[glossy tiger]

Anyone know if it is possible to get the leafmon from imperialdramon BE dim?

[dim umbra]

https://humulos.com/digimon/vbbe/other/#imperialdra_anchor

[viscid barn]

No, you will not be able to get Leafmon from the Imperialdramon BEM dim on VitalWear. Gift Digimon don't work on the current version of VitalWear.

[fickle nymph]

how would you gift? what do you mean?

[viscid barn]

On the actual VBBE and on certain BEMs, when you clear a certain stage, you will receive Digimon in one of your backup character slots. For example, when you clear stage 3 on the Imperialdramon BEM, you would normally receive a Leafmon in one of your backup character slots as a "Gift Digimon". In VitalWear, the ability to receive those "Gift Digimon" has not been implemented yet.

[fickle nymph]

oh I see, thanks for clarifying @viscid barn 💯

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #116 - 15)

[glossy tiger]

Thanks

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #112 - 16)

[odd cargo]

I am unable to import the card image. When I tap the Vital Bracelet (VB) to the phone, it asks to delete the current Digimon. After confirming 'OK' and inserting the Dim card, I waited and tapped the VB again, but nothing happens (the process does not proceed).

[floral roost]

You have to wait for the VH to prompt you to insert the card

Then wait for the card to fully load and show the tap prompt

[odd cargo]

I inserted the card after seeing that prompt, and then waited for VB to fully load and show the tap prompt. When I proceeded, nothing else happened. Does an active Digimon have to be at least Rookie level?

[wooden lagoon]

@odd cargo has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[viscid barn]

The active Digimon can be any stage. Just make sure that it's not the default avatar. It has to be a Digimon. Also, I don't understand what you mean by "it asks to delete the current Digimon." I have never come across that when trying to load a DIM/BEM card on VitalWear. I think you're missing a step, and instead you're trying to load a DIM into your VB but you don't have enough character slots available. Loading the DIM should only be used to verify cards for VitalWear. It should not be starting a new character on your VB.

Try these steps:

1. Load the .bin of the DIM/BEM card on the VitalWear Companion App on your phone.
2. When the Companion App prompts you for verification, on your Vital Bracelet, go to the menu and select Connect. (This is the step most people miss)
3. Tap the Vital Bracelet to the phone.
4. When the Vital Bracelet asks you to insert the DIM/BEM Card, insert the card and then tap the Vital Bracelet to the phone again.

[odd cargo]

In case 2 (the second attempt), I navigated to the App icon in the VB's menu and selected it. The 'touch' prompt then appeared. I tapped the VB to the phone, and after a 'waiting' status, the VB read the Dim Card. The 'touch' prompt then reappeared, so I tapped the VB to the phone again. But when I try to reconnect (tap the VB again), nothing happens on the app side. The VB screen simply shows the 'waiting' message again, and after a few seconds, a 'FAILED' prompt appears.

After performing the reset, the prompt asking 'delete Digimon?' is gone.

[fickle nymph]

thank you so much @clever ice 😊 looking forward to more updates for vital wear! 🫰

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @clever ice (current: #23 - 79)

[fickle nymph]

is your phone Bluetooth on? and your smartwatch bluetooth on too, while doing this?

[odd cargo]

Yes they both are

[fickle nymph]

do you have 2 Digimon on your VB? one in the storage and one outside?

maybe try to remove the one outside first. so it won't ask you to delete it when you tap your VB to the phones NFC

[fiery kiln]

What watch face is this?

[fickle nymph]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pujie.wristwear.pujieblack

search for "digimon" you need to learn how to edit and make it your own. 🫰 goodluck!

[fickle nymph]

Quick question
is it possible to overwrite my BEM D-3 White & Yellow, using my BEM backup of D-3 White & Red using asprogrammer?

[clever seal]

They use different OTP passwords so no this wouldn't be possible

[fiery kiln]

Thankyou!

[fickle nymph]

thanks 🫰

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @clever seal (current: #50 - 43)

[fickle nymph]

ur wc

[floral roost]

After playing with the pendulum link for a while, I just realized just how hard it is to beat battles normally

[glossy ibex]

Yeah, especially when trying to clear dims to unlock bonus mons. I created a custom dim called "Dim Destroyer" with a maxed stat Infected Magnamon. Hoping he'll just wipe the floor with everyone but haven't tried him out just yet. Here he is looking sad because he hasn't destroyed anyone yet.

[wooden lagoon]

@glossy ibex has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[analog apex]

Doom

[floral roost]

Unhappy Doom

[glossy ibex]

He needs to rip an tear ( Mick Gordon steps in )

[white badger]

Question so what if I put this on my Apple Watch

[clever seal]

You can't

[glossy ibex]

Im afraid its android only. It's an apk file that you have to sideload and isn't available on any official app store

[white badger]

So if I could somehow get the file on the watch it’s possible?

[glossy ibex]

No. An apple watch isn't able to install and run an apk, its made specifically for android.

[white badger]

Oh…ok

😭

[clever seal]

As a quick heads up. If you have too many Dim / BE Memory Cards installed on your watch, it can cause your evolution timers to freeze and switching characters to erase who you switched from. I had to do a data clear on the watch app (In turn losing all of my progress) last night because of this.

[marble dawn]

How many is too much?

[wooden lagoon]

@marble dawn has leveled up! (15 ➜ 16)

[clever seal]

I didn't count. I had a bunch of customs in addition to most (But not all) of the Digimon, Kamen Rider, and Ultraman Dim / BEM / VBM Cards.

Also, take note that if you have to clear data on the watch, you won't have to authenticate with your Vital Bracelet again when resending Dim / BE Memory Cards over from your phone that you have already sent over before, as the record of which Dim / BE Memory Cards have been authenticated is saved on the Helper app. So it won't be nearly as tedious getting it set back up thankfully.

[marble dawn]

Okay yeah that's a lot so hopefully doesn't impact that many. Sucks though due to the whole can't delete from Watch

[clever seal]

Yeah. It's definitely something I'll keep in mind once the updates that allow VitalWear and VB Helper to work in tandem come out.

[fickle nymph]

that's sad to hear, I hope it won't happen to me until the update came out.

[glossy ibex]

Suddenly was having an issue with importing a new custom Dim to the watch, not sure if it was because it might have been the first one since my watch updated to the new OS. Tried with a few different ones and kept getting the notification on the watch saying import failed. Reloaded the firmware on phone app and tried again and this time it worked. Just thought i'd post here incase it happens to anyone else.

[rocky dagger]

Wait this isn't a bad idea 🤔

[fickle nymph]

please correct me if I'm wrong, I cannot import BEM file from my BE to the watch thru the phone, is it because my BE is using the latest firmware version vs the vital wear older firmware version?

[viscid barn]

Shouldn’t be a problem. I have my BE on the latest firmware too.

[fickle nymph]

hmmm that's weird, lemme try that again, thanks @viscid barn !

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @viscid barn (current: #106 - 17)

[fickle nymph]

having fun editing my watch face 😁

[shadow elk]

Looks pretty cool

[floral roost]

woah cool

[random stag]

Is it possible to use custom DIMs with Vital Wear? Could you update the firmware to the Training Gear Link Pendulum Mod?

[clever seal]

Custom Dims can be used with VitalWear. As for the Training Gear Link Pendulum Mod, that's not possible because VitalWear requires the BE firmware files specifically and Training Gear is for the Vital Hero.

[sacred halo]

@clever ice I'm currently focused on job interviews, but when I get done with that I'd be happy to help with some of the requested features and debugging. Would you mind having a video call some time (probably after American Thanksgiving/early December) and going over the code with me?

[clever ice]

I'd be happy to. Would have to be after my daughter went to bed 9PM or later EST or maybe during my lunch break (12:30ish EST)

[sonic crater]

I would love some sound. The digimon feel a little bit "unalive" without sound.

[fickle nymph]

I second the motion 💯

[sonic crater]

I know is a long shot but... will this have connection with the VB Helper?

[viscid barn]

Yes, that's one of the planned feature updates of the next version of VitalWear.

[sonic crater]

nice!

[clever ice]

That's what I was working on just before I got distracted by BG3 and now Time stranger

[sonic crater]

Understandable xd

[polar turret]

Used this to make a minimalist watch face from someone's template

I had to make the indicator huge lol

[polar turret]

Replaced temp since it broke for some reason with vitals bar

[fickle nymph]

what's BG3?

[polar turret]

Baldurs gate 3

[polar turret]

The complication has to be so big to get the digimon the same size as in the app lol

[polar turret]

We got a greymon.
@clever ice complication for vitals only updated after switching the digimon back and forth. Might be because it just evolved

[polar turret]

We ready for blitzgreymon

[bitter basalt]

hi guys. I'm new here and I'm wondering if VItalwear can work on an older version of wearos (like Wear OS 2.24 ), and on an old vanilla vital bracelet ? (bummed bandai pivoted to the BE and never got around to buying em)

[polar turret]

Dn , yes

Think it need 2.6???

Never realized how cool blitz looks

Shame alter S isn't a thing

[thorny stream]

sprite could be better

[polar turret]

Well ex set 1 is old compared to other sprites

You can see it from pulsemon Dim vs Pulsemon BeM

[thorny stream]

aye, but iirc the colon agu and gabu dims already had the most flip-floppy sprite quality

gave us gems like big mame and, parrot

[clever seal]

Not on the official Dims no, but if you're okay with dabbling with custom Dims and BEMs there are some of those which include Alter-S 🙂

[bitter basalt]

aww the smartwatch i was plannin on buying cant update further than that

imma try to look for another one that can then thanks

[tawdry granite]

A used Pixel watch isnt too bad an idea

I think a pixel watch 2 should for sure be a high enough version.

U can find some used ones for as little as 30$ (but u need to buy the bands).

See a decent amount of em for ~70-100$ tho

I got a Pixel Watch 3 earlier this year for VW

[polar turret]

I wouldn't get anything too old

Still needs to communicate with your phone to set everything up

[tawdry granite]

Yeah nothing too old, but PW2 should work fine

I use PW3 XD

I bought mine new.

[polar turret]

I did the galaxy 5 pro on Amazon warehouse but that's on the ballpark of 100ish

[bitter basalt]

i wanted to buy a cheap secondhand ticwatch 2 but its not enough i think xD

[polar turret]

Do Amazon warehouse

Basically open box

It's also black Friday so you might be able to get a new one on the cheaper side

Samsung Watch 5 pro which I use is just 75 , cheaper than when I got it a year or two ago

[strong carbon]

how to get card to import to watch?

[sonic crater]

First link your watch to the phone. With the app, import the Firmware with the watch app opened. After firmware import, import the card file with the phone, it will ask you use your Vital Braacelet with NFC and the VB will ask you to insert your DIM Card, wait for a moment and it will ask you to use NFC with the VB on the phone again. Wait for a moment and it will send the card info to the watch. On your watch go to Characters, select New and you'll see the DIM you sent. Select the DIM and it will create a new digimon.

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@sonic crater has evolved into Baby I!

[bronze sage]

Is there a estimated release date for the next vital wear update

[fiery kiln]

It was originally by the end of September but I think now there’s no estimated date, it could be any time next year

[clever ice]

No... It's whenever I get back to it basically...

But historically I get very motivated to work on this stuff in the winter... so...

[polar turret]

Mmmmm monkey

[clever seal]

Joe Higashimon (Really though Boutmon's design always reminded me of Joe)

[gusty raft]

I never realized this
Thank you for the insight

[polar turret]

Custom dims , looking good.

[polar turret]

Looking forward to my lego dynasour becoming an actual gun man

[bleak remnant]

I see sleep is listed as a "road to 1.0" milestone, do digimon on VW still get sleepy as of rn but just cant sleep? Curious if evolution timers r 24/7 ticking in that case

[viscid barn]

Digimon don't get sleepy in VW. You can/have to manually set them to sleep. Even in sleep, the evolution timer will still countdown for the currently selected Digimon.

As with the actual VBBE, the evolution timer for a backup Digimon doesn't countdown. Perhaps that "sleep" function that you're seeing in the roadmap is possibly referring to the auto-sleep function that kicks in whenever the watch is taken off.

[bleak remnant]

Struggling with first time setup. I successfully got the two apps on my phone and watch through sideloading, but upon opening the watch app I was prompted to import firmware which I did by selecting the 1.0.b firmware on my phone. After a short upload process my watch is now black screen whenever I open the watch app

[polar turret]

Try forcing a shut down on the watch side

[bleak remnant]

I think I have progress; the fault was mine, but I did forget that there is a physical check for VB so I'll finish it tn at home

[polar turret]

The hatch had just begun

[bleak remnant]

Does this work by setting it up with a Vital Hero (as in not a VBBE)? I'm really struggling getting the phone app to finish the setup process from my VH

To be clear I am able to:

• import the firmware into the phone app
• select the DIM software within the phone app (yet to be verified)
• label the DIM when prompted within the phone app
• scan the VH once which triggers the "insert DIM" prompt"

But then when I go to scan the VH a second time to prove that I have the hardware, my phone is not recognizing the VH

[viscid barn]

The Vital Hero should work fine with VitalWear. After you label the DIM when prompted in the helper app and it asks you to scan the VH, are you selecting the "App Link" menu item on the VH before tapping your phone to it? Does the DIM you're using to verify match the bin file that you're trying to import to VitalWear?

Sorry. Sharing of bin files is not allowed here.

[shadow elk]

I understand. I apologize!

[bleak remnant]

Yes to both questions. It seems to be a bug with the phone app since it all works fine until the 2nd scan at which point the NFC function within the app stops working and I have to clear app data/cache to get it working again

[bleak remnant]

I'm down to try older versions if this is a solely modern issue, or if there's any method to skip the authentication that'd be the fastest solution. I have the hardware, but I'm getting stuck before I can begin

[polar turret]

The VH will be able to verify Dims

You won't be able to access training Dims without the BE since you need at least one BEMEMORY to act as a base

[bleak remnant]

training DIMs being the 100h stat raising period?

I've never had a BE so I don't know what other features they support

[polar turret]

Training ap BP hp

[bleak remnant]

Yeah well Id like to get that working but def getting anything working is priority #1

[polar turret]

Finished the gun hatch

[shell star]

Maybe someone can help me. I’m connected to the app, and on my watch I can see that the app is linked to it. But as soon as I try to install the APK, I get the message shown in the picture. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this?

[viscid barn]

Are ADB debugging and Wireless debugging enabled on your watch? I put together a guide a few months ago that might be helpful, in case you missed any steps. #1101249544588628110 message

[shell star]

Yes, it works now. Unfortunately, your tutorial doesn’t go any further. Where can I get the firmware now?

[viscid barn]

There other guides on actually getting VitalWear setup and running. My guide was for pushing apks from your phone to your watch, not necessarily for specifically installing VitalWear onto your watch.

Check this post for more help on getting the rest of it setup: #1101249544588628110 message

You can find the needed 1.0.B firmware here: https://toy.bandai.co.jp/special/vbbedl/VBBE_10B.vb2

[shadow elk]

Just wanted to say that this app is awesome. I work in a hospital, so i couldn't really wear the original armband without issue, but with this i can and its motivated me to work out more! Thanks for the work you've done!

[shell star]

@viscid barn Yes, great. It worked.
What about Import CARD image? Does that mean a backup of a DimCard? I tried to load that, but it didn’t work

[viscid barn]

Yes. You will need a backup bin file of the card you're trying to load.

[shell star]

Nothing happens… as soon as I click on Import (green window), a white window appears with no information and then nothing happens. Is this behavior already known?

[viscid barn]

There's a bug. You have to have your phone on dark theme.

[shell star]

That helped… now I see that it wants to make a connection to VB. A loading circle has been spinning for about 5 minutes, but nothing else happens. Do I need to manually create some kind of connection between the watch and the phone?

[viscid barn]

Yes. Make sure you put your VB into "Connect" or "App Link" mode and then tap when prompted.

[shell star]

I can install the firmware onto the watch, but as soon as I try to transfer a Dim Card, nothing really happens....the circle in the app just keeps spinning. I also tried it with different Dim Cards.

[wooden lagoon]

@shell star has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[bleak remnant]

I had to delete my cache and data on the phone app between each step tbh. After I got one transfer process complete it stopped activating the NFC on my phone

[shell star]

I cleared the cache. Unfortunately, nothing happens… the circle just keeps spinning.
But it's strange that I was able to upload the firmware, yet not the dim cards.

Is anyone else experiencing a similar issue?

[viscid barn]

Can you walk us through the steps that you've done and maybe share a picture please? That might give us a better understanding of what is causing this and what went wrong.

[shell star]

Yes sure:

First, I open the app on the watch (see image). Then I also start the app on the phone… I select the option Import card and choose the DIM card, and then it just shows a spinning circle… nothing else happens.

[viscid barn]

Do you have a Vital Bracelet/Vital Hero/Vital Bracelet BE?

You will need one of those to verify the DIM cards. On your VB, go to "Connect" or "App Link" (depending on which one you have) When the "Touch" prompt on your VB shows up, tap it to your phone while it's on the "Connect to VB" screen.

[shell star]

So from the phone app I can transfer the DIM card to the Digimon watch.

What exactly do I need to do with my smartwatch? Do I have to hold it against the back of the phone? I didn’t have to do that for the firmware.

[polar turret]

Side load the app

Load the Frimware

And send Dim Backups to the watch . First time you send a backup it confirms with an actual VH you own it

[shell star]

I somehow managed to do it, but honestly I have no idea how. I just kept switching between my phone, smartwatch, and Digimon watch.

Anyway… I noticed that the numbers aren’t increasing .. no Vital values or anything.
I also noticed that this isn’t the Vital BE version on my smartwatch?
And how do I set the app on the watch so that it stays running in the background and doesn’t always restart when I open it?

[viscid barn]

Check your permissions. You need to allow certain ones for VitalWear to work properly. Vitals should work and it should stay running in the background once the right permissions are enabled.

The current version of VitalWear runs on firmware version 1.0.B. The next release of VW should run on the latest 2.0.A firmware.

[tall pelican]

Did the funky battery google API thing ever get patched up?

[strong carbon]

qq, what VBs work with with vital wear for importing?

[polar turret]

I think all of them

But you can only import BeM if you have a BE

[strong carbon]

Can i also import older Dims with the BE?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@strong carbon has evolved into Baby I!

[viscid barn]

Yes.

[strong carbon]

Thank you

[cerulean osprey]

I clicked on the link (I need the firmware too) but it opens a page that looks like a txt with a lot of text... don't you have the file to send me?

[sonic crater]

https://humulos.com/digimon/vbbe/manual/ Go to the section "Firmware Updates" and download the 1.0a version

[pine herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761601978786381824/1002782300603416676/makingcharts.png

[wooden lagoon]

@sonic crater has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[polar turret]

1.0.B is the used by VitalWear

https://humulos.com/digimon/vbbe/manual/#updates

[pine herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761601978786381824/1002782300603416676/makingcharts.png

[cerulean osprey]

I installed the apps, and I installed impulse city to try... the screen is rectangular like on VB, with a colored background, but it doesn't increase my steps... what should I do?

[polar turret]

Steps increase pretty slowly

Might not have enough permissions to increase them on the background

[cerulean osprey]

ok, perfect, I gave all the permissions, the background etc... but now the time has expired, but it doesn't digivolve

[polar turret]

Sometimes it gets stuck

Swap between two characters

[cerulean osprey]

ok I'll see if I can put another digimon in this evening

[polar turret]

You can just start another one with impulse city

Since impulse city is already in the watch

[cerulean osprey]

Thank you

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @polar turret (current: #15 - 131)

[sonic crater]

The thing is... it doesn't increase by shaking it if that's what you're doing. You'll need to really walk with it in order to increase the steps.

[clever seal]

This happens to me sometimes too so quoting it (Without tagging) for emphasis

[polar turret]

Watch basically has infinite storage for characters

Would be cool to access VB helper but it isn't really needed most the times

Though unless you go to the gym or the park you wont get the Evos that need VP from stage 3 to 4

[cerulean osprey]

The problem is that I had to enable all the app permissions... I admit I'm not very familiar with smartwatches, I bought the cheapest one I could find just to try this app.

[urban echo]

Vitalwear is such a game changer for me it used to ve so awkward wearing my vb and my smart wat h at the same time thank you for your contribution to the community

[urban echo]

How did you do this?

[polar turret]

This

Gotta change the complications in the watch itself , app doesn't have cfogrady's complications in it

Dots are both vitals , and the big phone battery one is the VitalWear complication

Actually this is the latest

https://pujie.io/share/scv3/9ARjbY8mCE_OJiZbnnAkIsdyMy6XcAY9hUYvDsVeQUHWckFXxShBGNY-QSKtbAwmkVUyIoNLIVWBdDYJk28mO5FHOxunc1JP2CYXT84pUhA

Maybe someone that is a graphics designer can do a better job than my jank

[polar turret]

Let me know if any of y'all use it

[urban echo]

I just cant wrap my head around using this pujie app

Im more used to watch face studio

[polar turret]

Maybe you can clone it

I just used it on my phone since it was what another member also used

[urban echo]

Unrelated but is there a way to delete or rename your saved dim cards? The first two i saved i didn't label and now its confusing

[urban echo]

How would one go about doing that?

[polar turret]

No idea. I thought you used another app so you can replicate it

[urban echo]

I ended up making one on watch face studio that has a to scale partner icon (like yourse) and then two progress bars with your steps and vitals

[urban echo]

Whenever I make a new character for some reason I dont get the scale dim to BeM option, only background training and battle options

[polar turret]

You'll only get that if you've imported at least on BeM

[viscid barn]

There is no way to delete or rename your saved DIM cards with the current build of VitalWear except to delete the entire app data, which would wipe everything including all your raised mons. I think cfogrady is working on adding this feature in the next build or one in the near future.

[pearl canopy]

Good evening, a question, do you know if my Vital Bracelet BE needs to have the same firmware version that I installed on the smartwatch in order to work when using NFC on the Vital BE, so that the BE memory I have works? It's just that it stays on "import card from phone," it doesn't go any further. I'm asking because my smartwatch has firmware version 10b and my Vital bracelet BE has version 20a.

[viscid barn]

Firmware version doesn’t need to be the same. You do have to put you VBBE into “Connect” mode so you can tap it to your phone after selecting the bin file of the card you’re trying to import.

[clever ice]

Shouldn't matter at all

[rain pollen]

Forgive me all I'm so close. I installed the apks, got the firmware. Now I'm certain there was something about scanning a card from the physical watch but I can't figure that out

[sonic crater]

Import card file on the Phone app, it Will ask you to use the VB nfc, then it Will ask to insert your Dim on the VB and then use your VB nfc on the Phone again. It Will start sending the info to the watch app. Once it finish importing, select New on the watch app and you'll see the imported Dim

[rain pollen]

Y'all I figured it out like a big boy

I didn't realize you needed to have it be the active digimon on the VB

[slender gyro]

Been trying to install this for awhile and the watch apk isn't installing on any method I use for my wear os 5 watch

I keep getting stuck on install where it says installing or connecting with bugjera

Then while using wear installer it says cannot recognize apk

I'll keep trying things since I'm pretty sure it's something to do with my wifi

[slender gyro]

Yea anyone know a fix for this infinite loading screen

[viscid barn]

On your smartwatch’s developer options, do you have ADB debugging, Wireless debugging, and permissions enabled?

[slender gyro]

Yes

Found an alt method using an app called wear load

[slender gyro]

I got it working let's go

Weird thing I did notice is that whenever I start trying to do training it crashes

[slender gyro]

Yea it keeps crashing whenever I do training

Any idea how to fix that

Fixed it

Just needed to give physical activity permissions

[slender gyro]

Ok now everything is working except steps and vitals

[urban echo]

Do you have battery saver enabled on your watch? Ive also noticed that sometimes they won't update if I have the app open but do when its inactive

[slender gyro]

Alright

[open ermine]

It's been a while since I've checked in on this. This doesn't connect to VB Arena, right?

[sonic crater]

VB Arena doesn't exist anymore, it will connect with VB Helper in the future which replaces VB Arena

[open ermine]

I mean it does exist and works in offline mode, you just can't download it from the store anymore, lol.

[dim umbra]

Could you even transfer to VB Arena? I remember it wasn't possible...
So everyone had to keep saving it in their Watches forever, waiting for VB Helper support—that's how I remember it.

[viscid barn]

No, it cannot connect to the old VB Arena app as there is no NFC support on VitalWear. In the next version of VitalWear, cfogrady is working on adding support to be able to connect to VB Helper.

[urban echo]

Is jogress available on vital wear? Ive had the two digimon needed for one for about 24 hours and nothing has happened yet

[viscid barn]

Yes, jogress is available on VitalWear. Did you set the backup Digimon that you're trying to jogress with as support?

[urban echo]

That was entirely my fault I just discounted the hours

[slender gyro]

How do I set a Mon for jogress

Also idk why but it's not really counting my steps correctly

Nvm figured it out

The partner mon not step thing

[viscid barn]

Most likely a permissions thing. Make sure VitalWear has access to physical activity and sensors.

[slender gyro]

Already checked that and it has the permissions

[tawdry granite]

restart the watch

if u havent

since setting it up

Mine didnt track anything after granting permissions, but a restart of the watch real quick and it worked after perfectly fine.

[slender gyro]

Restarted and still have this issue where steps are barley counted

[slender gyro]

And if somehow fixed itself

[fiery kiln]

Hoping we get the VitalWear update before GTA 6 🙏

[gusty raft]

It definitely will come out before GTA 6, too cool not to

[slender gyro]

Wrong channel bro

Go to

#modding_vpets

[slender gyro]

And they deleted it lmao

[urban echo]

Well yeah I moved it to the right channel

[slender gyro]

Ye

[sonic crater]

🥺

[elfin saddle]

kinda late to all this

am i expected to scan my actual vital brace with the phone app to send cards to the wear os app?

[elfin saddle]

turns out, yes

[sudden cairn]

everytime i try to import firmware, the app on my phone freezes, help anyone?

downloaded the 10b from the humulos link above

[viscid barn]

Is your phone on a dark theme/dark mode?

[sudden cairn]

hmmm how do i check

oh wait now its just a white screen

[viscid barn]

Settings > Display > Dark Theme

[sudden cairn]

just switched it off, now its a white screen

[viscid barn]

There's a bug on light mode, so keep it on dark theme.

[sudden cairn]

oh wait so it should be on dark, ya that was what it was on originally

[wooden lagoon]

@sudden cairn has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[sudden cairn]

so when i try to import the 10b it just freezes

[viscid barn]

Does the 1.0.b file have the right extension?

[sudden cairn]

i downloaded from the humulos link. file name is VBBE_10B.vb2

[viscid barn]

On the watch side, is there any activity or message on VitalWear after trying to import the firmware?

[sudden cairn]

im installing bugjaeger to port the apk into my watch now

[viscid barn]

So VitalWear hasn't been installed on your watch yet? That might be the problem.

[sudden cairn]

Yes thank you it's all loaded up. Now the problem is that it doesn't track the steps. Is there a permission section or something that I've missed?

And also, the watch app crashes every time I try to do a training

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@sudden cairn has evolved into Baby I!

[clever seal]

Sounds like you forgot to set permissions.

[wind plank]

have anyone have tip to make DIM digimon win easier ? it's mostly lose in every fight

[polar turret]

not really , ive always scaled them to BeM stats

have support attack on ?

[wind plank]

yes

but the 1st character has no support so it's hard.

[wind plank]

how to do that use dim modifier?

[polar turret]

you scan any BeM in

[wind plank]

oh so if i scan any BeM in it's enable scale right?

[polar turret]

yeah since it needs a BeM to scale them up , which means you need a BE to do it atm

[wind plank]

tysm i'll do it

[pine herald]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_XXXMfFzABGyzitbdPMUYWuFT1HIMJ8GwcWA0coLgos/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/761583977748103178/767820130234400798/unknown.png

[polar turret]

Old characters you created won't scale

The option is selected at character creation

[viscid barn]

Just create a new character and set it as support. Then switch back to your first character. Even a baby stage Digimon can be set as support.

Also, one thing to be mindful of when using the BEM scaling feature: when you beat adventure mode with a scaled character, it will not unlock the reward Digimon. To unlock the reward Digimon on a regular DIM, you must beat it with a non-scaled Digimon.

[wind plank]

so will it be a setting for scaling and non scaling?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@wind plank has evolved into Baby I!

[viscid barn]

When you create a new character, there will be a box you can tick to turn on scaling, or untick to keep it off. In order to access that feature, you will need at least one BEM loaded, as Tosm had mentioned.

[wind plank]

i got it tysm

[trim yew]

Just bought a VB(pulsemon), a few dims off amazon and galaxy watch 4. Can you please help me VitalWear installed? ive managed to get the apps installed from the releases pages and put them on the devices. When i try to load the firmware i got from bandai's site it seems to just sit on the page

[trim yew]

After some serious diggin through all the chats i found my issue was im using the wrong firmware, i think i got it now i'll update when i got it figured out

[trim yew]

ITS ALIVEE

[trim yew]

Is it possible to connect to either VB arena or VB helper with VitalWear as of now?

[sonic crater]

Not yet 😢

[trim yew]

thats fine ive been happy with just having something in general! im loving it

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@trim yew has evolved into Baby I!

[trim yew]

Just wanted to say thanks for giving me a digivice in 2026 🤣 I get to waste my adulthood chasing childhood dreams

[polar turret]

I haven't ran mine in a while

Did make a custom faceplate for it via an app

Based on someone elses minimalist template

[thorny stream]

...is it me of is some of the text here ever so slightly off-angle

[polar turret]

Idk

Maybe ?

It's a lot smaller irl

[sharp steeple]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. But I just bought an android smartwatch online - what are the odds VitalWear would work with this? It runs with an app on my phone called Laxasfit, if that helps

[rocky dagger]

I think it'll ONLY work if it runs WearOS 3

[sharp steeple]

Which is... Not this. Right? (Sorry, first time smartwatch owner)

[rocky dagger]

UHHHH let me look into it. Do you have a link to where you bought it?

[sharp steeple]

I can probably find it. It was from Aliexpress

[thorny stream]

that doesn't look like it runs android at all

[sharp steeple]

Probably just a lookalike honestly

[rocky dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795438962088345620/1478960114051584052/image0.gif

[rocky dagger]

Yeah I did an image search, its not WearOS sadly

[sharp steeple]

Rats. I appreciate you looking into it for me though, thank you

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @rocky dagger (current: #129 - 16)

[polar turret]

I think WeorOS stays out of square shape for some reason

[clever seal]

WearOS is too hip to be square

[rocky dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaahhhh-gif-2625959413971883914

i hate that thats the case.

[dim umbra]

It seems OPPO used to sell square-shaped models like the Apple Watch, but they don't appear to be available anymore.

[tall pelican]

Did pause when off-wrist ever get implemented?

[viscid barn]

No, it has not been implemented yet. There were plans for it to possibly be in the next update, but it is still being worked on.

[tall pelican]

Noted
Doubtful that'll be soon though, been a bit since gradys been in here.

[polar turret]

Pretty sure it's because apple watches are square .

[restive abyss]

After 1 year, I found it

[trim yew]

Im trying to reinstall the app on galaxy watch 4 but I cant import the firmware? Is it a weird bug because ive previously installed before?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@trim yew has evolved into Baby II!

[viscid barn]

No updates have happened in a while, so I doubt it's a bug. The only bug I know of that a lot of people encountered was the one that occurred when they had a "light" theme/mode enabled on their phones.

[trim yew]

OK thank you! Ill give it a go

[trim yew]

Dark mode wasnt the issue apparently, watch says import firmware from phone, but when I load companion app to load the firmware it just sits on the loading screen. Nothing happens! Can't figure out what I did to make it hate me now

[viscid barn]

Which version firmware are you trying to load?

Did you make sure it’s 1.0.B and not the latest 2.0.A?

[trim yew]

Embarrassed to admit it, but somehow or another my watch wasnt connected to my phone, which makes it incredibly hard to anything 😅 i wasnt having issues to begin with im just dumb

[viscid barn]

Glad you figured it out and it was an easy fix!

[trim yew]

I appreciate that someone answered in general, a couple of these discords are dead! So im glad people are still active

[solemn wadi]

is this project dead? 🙁

[thorny stream]

doesnt seem otherwise from where i'm standing

[restive abyss]

I dont quite understand what the "Companion APK" is. Neither do I seem to find it

[weary geode]

It's on the releases page with everything else

[viscid barn]

Check the releases at the github project page here: https://github.com/cfogrady/VitalWear/releases. You're looking for "VitalWear-v.0.4.1-Phone.apk"

You need to use the companion app on your phone to load the firmware and DIMs/BEMs onto your watch.

[restive abyss]

Ahhh

Thanl you

Thank*

[glossy ibex]

Even if the app is currently being worked on, its still phenomenal as it is and I use it every day!

[modern palm]

I check this chat a couple times a week lol, I still believe

[sonic crater]

I check it everyday hoping that there will be an update this time :c

[tawdry granite]

I wouldnt expect an update (at least for transfers off WearOS to VBHelper) until VBHelpers database is finished and is static.

Because as of now VBHelper needs data clearing for updating and the database has been changing between versions.

Once thats finished Id assume VitalWear can work on the transfer protocol update.

[restive abyss]

How exactly do I get the card images on my phone?

[viscid barn]

You will need to use a programmer (Ch341a, CH347, etc.) to connect and dump a bin file of the DIM.

[trim yew]

Currently working on VitalWear to VBhelper transfers, its a bitch to figure out

[trim yew]

This is good stuff to know, it will help big time!

[elfin saddle]

Id kill for an update to this
Vb battle items, but actually randomized
Maybe a way to use the full screen space of the watch, even if that means you have to use default backgrounds
Bezel input support

An option to have Sleep mode freeze the limit timer

[polar turret]

I mean Grady is pretty busy or working on other stuff

But I think the code is open source in GitHub

[fiery kiln]

Does anyone think the upcoming Digimon V-pet app ‘Digimon Up’ for android and IOS will have a watch companion app?

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@fiery kiln has evolved into Baby II!

[sacred ledge]

Im honestly doubting it but the opportunity would provide itself given what kind of resources they build up over the last years with all the VB models.

[modest marlin]

I doubt it as well, but lets hope this mobile game has a proper EOL, I don't trust bandai anymore

VB Arena was very much the exception and not the rule

[polar turret]

Almost done with this hatch

[fiery kiln]

https://github.com/457R0/VitalWear/releases/tag/VW-VBH

Is this the new update finished?

[wooden lagoon]

@fiery kiln has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[thorny stream]

...2 weeks ago?

when the heck was this a thing

[fiery kiln]

Ikr i thought we would have heard something about it in this discord

[viscid barn]

That's a fork of cfogrady's VitalWear.

Poking around on the github page, I don't see a list of any changes made. The only mention is a change on the companion app of an added percentage progress indicator while importing a dim.

[marble dawn]

Don't have my Hero or BE with me but I can test when I get home. Like cfogrady's it requires the physical device to import dims

[stuck jackal]

couldnt you use an nfc file when it prompts you to tap the vital bracelet?

provided you have a seperate device to emit the nfc signal

[trim yew]

Haven't made public announcements because its not concrete yet, when im more confident with the code i will post but right now ive only added ui changes as mentioned by Sway.
Currently working on getting VBHelper to see VitalWear, then once i do that i want to make a watch face (or as close a possible, from what ive read is possible i may only be able to make a sprite that links to opening the VitalWear app, still kicking around ideas)

[uneven wind]

Hi guys, quick question: after installing the apk on the watch, before installing the firmware, what should I see? Because I only get an entusiasthic "Hello World!" and I guess it's not correctly installed

Oh nope, it worked

Sorry guys for bothering

[viscid barn]

I think I remember seeing that too on the initial install. Once you load the firmware through your phone, you should see a prompt to load DIMs.

[uneven wind]

Indeed, it went like that!

One more question: if I want to put a modded DIM do I need to actually mod in one of my Physical DIMs or I can just scan a random DIM in the bracelet?

[viscid barn]

I’m pretty sure whatever DIM you try to import has to match the scanned DIM on the bracelet.

[uneven wind]

I see, so I'll have to mod my DIMs then. Thank you very much 🙂

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@uneven wind has evolved into Baby I!

[golden apex]

Hey all! I've spent the day trying to get the app working, but the issue is the screen on my VB is toast. Is there any way to work around the authentication? I have the device and dim cards, but without the screen working I can't figure out how to get it to send the data from the VB to my phone

[viscid barn]

I don't have a normal VB right now, but maybe someone can help you navigate to the "link" screen so you can connect your VB and phone. The authentication is in place to prevent piracy, so no known ways to work around it. VHs are pretty accessible and affordable right now, depending on where you live. Would you be able to pick up a new one?

[uneven wind]

Don't you need a BE to load at least a BEM to scale your DIMs to? Otherwise you can't train your DIM stats (like in the old BEM)

[viscid barn]

Yes. that is correct.

[golden apex]

I'm in Aus but I haven't seen too many kicking around - I'll try to pick a new one up and get that to work. Devastated the screen gave out. Appreciate the help though!

[marsh otter]

Okay so uh…question. If this is for WearOS, can I buy a WearOS watch and use this with iPhone?

[viscid barn]

No, that won’t work. The Companion app runs on Android only.

[uneven wind]

After testing the app for 2 days, I really would like to say that cfogrady did an amazing job!

Also: very well written code! I gave it a check before installing and could understand a lot of what was going on from just function names hahaha!

A question: did you not add audio to avoid infringing Bandai copyright by distributing the sounds?

[mossy compass]

Will the app work in Android Wear 2.9 or has it to be WearOS 3+?

[viscid barn]

I don’t think it will work. It’s too old. From what I’m reading, Android Wear and Wear OS are the same thing. Google rebranded the OS to Wear OS and reset the version number to 1.0 in 2018.

The earliest version documented that VitalWear was working on was Wear OS 2.4x. I doubt it will work on Android Wear 2.9, which is a much outdated smartwatch OS.

[uneven wind]

Sorry for always asking questions and bothering, but: I've seen that the next version of the code won't allow old characters to carry on, right? Would it be possible with adb to push character saves, store them somewhere and eventually put them in the next version? I'm thinking whether or not to start some characters that may sadden me if I lost them, like dracomon line

[dim umbra]

Basically, I don’t think we can recommend using it for full-scale operations just yet.
Since it’s still classified as “under development,” there’s a possibility that even the backed-up data might become unusable in the next version due to specification changes or other factors.
If you want to use it for full-scale operations, I think you should wait until the transfer function to VBH has been officially implemented.

[uneven wind]

Ah I see, so even a backup may not be useful! I guess I'll wait a little and run it on a smaller scale now then, or live with the philosophy that my partner may need to be brought back to life. Thanks!!

[pine herald]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim umbra (current: #786 - 1)

[strange meadow]

Is it correct to say that the latest version doesn’t need you to tap in a real BE anymore?

[uneven wind]

The latest release still asks for that verification

And checking the code (and the ReadME on Github, see github.com/cfogrady/VitalWear) shows that the current version does too

[strange meadow]

My bad, i glanced over the imprting DiMs part of the readme. I thought it had been removed from the setuo section.

Thanks!

[glossy ibex]

I wish that was true, would be so much easier. But I get why its there for anti-piracy measures

[uneven wind]

I remember reading in the past that Bandai's lawyers were keeping an eye on anything related to the bracelet. If you look at other projects (like W0rld) you can see that there are legal issues with the bracelet even after Bandai stopped producing it.

So it's kind of understandable if they want to avoid a lawsuit lol

[glossy ibex]

Yeah, i hear they're in an out of the discords too keeping an eye on things. Always better safe than sorry. It's crazy tho that they can see how much support there still is for the project and device but its dead in the water and they dont want to do anything with it anymore. They're leaving money on the table.

[uneven wind]

I think that Bandai may come back with a similar project eventually. The bracelet was selling pretty well as far as I remember.
Even then, if they keep selling products only in Japan, maybe we'll never see these eventual new bracelets anyway lol

[acoustic imp]

I've said it for years, if they adopted the Fitbit Charge 6 design, they would've sold a boatload more,

[uneven wind]

An actual functional fit band with a digimon inside (maybe like a VPet, where you have something like 30 digimons per band) would be incredible

[pine herald]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is Digimen.

[viscid barn]

The VB & BE fell short IMO because the original raising mechanics of the OG devices were not present. There was also no cross-play/battling between the bracelets and any of the other v-pets.

I would love it if, for the successor of the VB/BE, Bandai focuses on an official smartwatch app like VitalWear, with a phone companion app and a pairing device. The paring device could act like a vcom specifically for bracelet Digimon that would allow them to interact with the other vpet devices.

Instead of releasing just physical DIM cards, they can also sell in app purchases of digital DIMs/roster expansions to keep costs down and make them more available globally.

The D3 Devices 2025 were the closest thing to vpets with updated graphics. I wish they would take it a step further and officially incorporate the newer graphics into some of the more modern vpets.

[uneven wind]

The idea would be great, but I guess that if there isn't really an OS that is very widespread (like android or IOs are) there wouldn't be an incentive to do something like this. I can see them selling their own bracelet that you can connect to the phone to do exactly what you said.

Virtual DIMs would be very cool to make them easier to acquire in various countries!

[wooden lagoon]

SHINKA!

@uneven wind has evolved into Baby II!

[dim umbra]

There were voices in Japan suggesting that, rather than toy-like devices, people wanted products comparable to existing smartwatches—even if they were more expensive.
However, I get the sense that Bandai has no intention of changing its stance as a toy manufacturer.
Even if they were to create products aimed at adults based on the Super Sentai or Kamen Rider series, those would still be nothing more than toys, and I don’t recall them ever selling gadgets on par with those from established device manufacturers in the past.
To begin with, I don’t think they have the know-how to build a device from scratch that meets the standards of established manufacturers.
So, personally, I believe Bandai itself lacks the capability to produce products of that caliber.

Well, perhaps it’s a bit off the mark to expect toy manufacturers to be on the same level as established companies like Apple, Samsung, and Xiaomi—or, when it comes to smartwatches, manufacturers like Garmin that produce smart devices.

[gusty raft]

I think they dont want to shell out the money or take such a big risk.
Despite them only releasing toy products, there is nothing (afaik) stopping them from partnering up with another company that does have the capacity to produce a high-end product. Even if it isnt as functional as a current smartwatch, something is better than nothing. It could also snowball into a better product down the line.

[viscid barn]

I still wouldn't give up my smartwatch for a v-pet watch. When I got my VBBE, I hadn't gotten a smartwatch yet. After my first VBBE's buttons broke, I replaced it with another one. Once my second VBBE's buttons were showing a lot of wear, I decided to just buy a smartwatch and run VitalWear on it.

I hope that Bandai makes something that is compatible and utilizes already existing and established smartwatches. I realize that there are a ton of different smartwatch brands and OSs, but maybe just making apps focusing on the top main ones (watchOS, Wear OS, Fitbit OS) makes sense to me.

[gusty raft]

Making an app to be utilized by a smart watch would, honestly, be the best solution. Less resources being eaten up by trying to develope a toy, more to make a good app that fully utilizes smartwatch functions.

[tawdry granite]

Only reason I even have my Pixel 3 watch is for the vitalwear tbh + just linking phone for notifications lol

[weary geode]

Those are good reasons

I use the fitness features on mine as well, and I have to say I love the new thing where I can pinch to perform actions

Feels like magic

[clever seal]

VitalWear and fitness features are the only reasons I have my Galaxy Watch as well TBH

[uneven wind]

Same here with my galaxy watch 4

[wooden lagoon]

@uneven wind has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[tall pelican]

It keeps making that pinch icon at me and every time I try it doesn't do anything

I got mine in part for this,
But I really can't get myself to use it till I know there's an auto pause when off wrist...

[weary geode]

OK so here's the thing

The little icon misled me at first