Performance Mode Issues on gen 7 l5p

[nova perch]

Model: Lenovo legion 5 pro gen 7 2022 16ARH7H
Describe the issue: After installing the legion 2022 power plans from #1020285176531669012 the performance power plan does not show up within the power plan options within control center, however with vantage installed and vantage service enabled when switching to performance mode the performance mode plan shows up however disappears again which is the expected behavior and everything works fine with vantage however the issue arises when vantage is either disabled or completely uninstalled even after a restart where if ltt is used instead the plan will stop appearing entirely and cannot be seen or switched to within ltt even manually installing it using powercfg /import doesnt get it to show up and when using fn + q it simply just stays on the power plan it was on previously but never switches to the performance mode plan, all of this is done plugged in and ive tried on a completely clean windows 11 and the lenovo provided windows 11 and got the same results, the led turns red and the fans get louder but im mainly concerned about why the perofrmance mode power plan simply stops exiting once the vantage service is no longer in use but works perfectly fine with it, the only solution ive found is to simply use vantage and not ltt for the time being, ive also installed another power plan to show that other power plans can be installed, show up and be set for use by ltt its just that the performance mode specifiaclly doesnt the others do
What have you tried already?: shown in recorded videos
When did it start producing the issue: Whenever vantage is installed or whenever the vantage service is disabled
Did you install new drivers or software?no
Can you provide images/videos to show us the issue: As requested ive divided the issue and what ive tried to fix it inot two seperate parts as unlisted youtube videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54HVxgFkSX8 (Issue)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMBM_s47-XY (What has been done)

#questions message

@hardy reef

[desert hound]

As said before, power plan does not relate to power mode. They can work independently.

For LLT if you still cannot get it to switch automatically, go to settings, scroll to the bottom and manually pair power modes with power plans

[nova perch]

doesnt work

watch the videos

[desert hound]

Try to enable force power plan in that same menu

See if that works

[nova perch]

already tried it same effect, also happens on clean install of win 10 and using the beta or stable version of ltt also leads to same thing, same behavior is shown if the 2021 performance mode plan is manually installed using powercfg /import

[odd pumice]

@nova perch try deleting the power plans

and install them back

[stone path]

This is a non-issue, I've compared the balanced and performance modes using a program and they were literally identical except 1 setting which doesn't make any difference whatsoever.

Just use balanced it's fine all the important stuff is done regardless of what power plan you're using

[desert hound]

Agree

[stone path]

You can try this if you still want separate plans (to disabling cpu boost in balanced maybe), still need to set the performance mode to performance plan manually in LTT though.

[nova perch]

im assuming you mean something like powercfg –restoredefaultschemes, which ive already tried and its not like I can delete the high performance mode plan as it simply does not show up so there nothing to delete but I have tried the powercfg –restoredefaultschemes and bith used the setup.cmd and manual installation with powercfg /import, same result

[odd pumice]

you should be able to delete it

open two power plan options windows

select the Performance plan

switch to another plan from the 2nd window

[nova perch]

yes im aware, it just bothers me not knowing why something is not functioning correctly without a reason but ultimately it is a non issue and I do use the balanced mode primarily but it would be nice to have the option to disable switching to performance so I can just directly switch between quiet and balanced like when unplugged but im certain that cannot be done

[odd pumice]

then refresh the Performance options page

[nova perch]

I aplogize if im misunderstanding you however the issue is that I know its installed as ive installed it multiple times it just that the power plan stops existing once vantage is disabled and only the other two power plans appear no matter how much deletion or reinstallation is done as shown.

[odd pumice]

i've had this happen before

try deleting the performance plan when it shows up

[nova perch]

Should I do so with or without ltt installed? As it only appears with vanatge and its service running

[odd pumice]

doesn't matter

as long as the plan appears

but i'd suggest disabling vantage if you use LLT

to avoid other weird behavior like this

after you've fixed the issue

[nova perch]

I usually do have it uninstalled in the videos and images provided it’s uninstalled, Should I also have the disable vantage service and disable fn key options disabled for the time being so I can properly uninstall it but turn it back on afterwards and just for the clarification the steps I should take are

1. Install vanatge + service with ltt installed
2. Switch to performance mode and and open two windows of power plan options where performance mode should show up in one select the change power plan options for performance mode and in the other manually select another plan
3. Then refresh the performance mode window and the option to delete the plan should appear and then delete the plan
4. After the plan is deleted im assuming I would either run the setup.cmd again or manually install just the performance mode plan using powercfg
5. Then I would uninstall vantage and its service within add or remove programs without messing with anything within ltt and then restart
6. and then I would assume the issue would be solved and the plan should appear again

[stone path]

Just delete all the plans and try the zip ive sent

[nova perch]

alright ive succesfully tried the solution you suggested and ive now got everything working as intended and no longer experience the issue, tysm although I did use the power plan from #1020285176531669012

[nova perch]

Everything is working now, but is there a difference between the plans you sent in a zip vs the ones in #1020285176531669012 or are they practically the same?

[thick elk]

You probably have modern standby enabled which means that performance plan is not going to work correctly.

Unless you import them properly

[nova perch]

I followed the "disable connectivity in modernstandby" guide in #1020285176531669012 but im not sure if that is related or if there anything I can do about it

[nova perch]

Do you mean through cmd or something similar to that?

[thick elk]

Via c/m

Cmd*

[stone path]

the performance plan is fixed

but you have to use LTT so that it applies in performance mode

[winged bison]

Dissagree. Performance mode unlocks TGP

[odd pumice]

unlocks? wdym

i have max tgp on balanced

[winged bison]

Standard behavior is that GPU power is higher on Performance mode

I think for 3060 its around 120watt on balanced and 120-140 on performance

You must have changed something then

[odd pumice]

the guy you replied to was referring to power plans

not laptop power mode

[winged bison]

Ah alright

[winged bison]

Still this doesnt make sense to me

[odd pumice]

the default balanced power plan does not affect tgp

power mode does tho

[winged bison]

No i mean the balance mode

[odd pumice]

yes, balanced mode (white power led) has limited power

[winged bison]

Why would you have Performance mode on and have balance power plan selected lol

[odd pumice]

because that comes with windows

and all the other plans are installed additionally by the user

or they probably come with the lenovo image

[winged bison]

Yeah rocking that lenovo image haha

Still i think its not an image affecting it but a mobo kinda switch or something

Cuz if u dont have the lenovo image, the power modes still work

[odd pumice]

they do

i was only talking about the power plans in windows