G-Sync issues post old 511.xx Nvidia Driver

[lean geyser]

not lenovo

[round robin]

I blame them both, neither one doing jack shit

[lean geyser]

i mean lenovo doesnt make nvidia drivers

and their oem drivers still are really good

[wraith wharf]

But the thing is, you are not supposed to see this if you have GFE ticked off from the installs.

Most of us don't even use it.

It's just a notification from a piece of bloatware.

[round robin]

We're just the little guys, Lenovo is our voice toward Nvidia to do something. After 8 months of this it's clear that voice isn't being used.

[round robin]

I don't follow?

[wraith wharf]

Another thing is, look at this side: panels such as DA1-8 used to get issues with every driver until these 522.25 appeared where they got boosted for being DSC panels

So they stood shit until 522.25 appeared, now they are the ones without a single issue.

Take my case as example, DA1-1 was the best panel out there without a single issue until 511.79 shown up

even in my DDU guide from the other Legion server, it is specified not to use GFE

So don't bother listening to the GFE notification, next time you DDU or nvidia cleanup tool your driver, just use the Custom(Advanced) install and leave GFE unticked.

Other than Marvel Spider-Man, every other game runs fine on 511.23

The fact that you lose 5-10~ish fps in some DX12 titles sucks, I agree.

[round robin]

I've never used GFE. Ever. I hate that useless crap lol

[next yoke]

i opened a support ticket for this today since i think the community forums don't even have official nvidia persons browsing through issues. i should have done this from the start. btw can i use your videos and device info if they ask for more proof?

[round robin]

It's not that much of a pain to use 511 right now that's not exactly my point, but to seemingly never be able to get updates for the rest of this machines life is terrible. What about when i want to sell? Do i tell the buyer ''oh btw you can't ever update the graphics driver, sorry''. That's going to turn buyers away (it certainly would me). I could be optimistic and continue to be patient for a future driver that patches this crap, but after 8 months of this i have little faith.

[round robin]

Yes of course.

[next yoke]

ok thanks. i have good experience when opening official ticket based on my ticket history (my last relatationship with nvidia was way back in 2017 so i forgot they had this) so i hope we can shed some light into this

[round robin]

My ticket I opened 3 days ago still has no response. So much for ''premium'' care lol

[wraith wharf]

I do agree with you here and you are right. However, this is what I've learned after being a L5P user for a year already(not having this knowledge before as I've been a desktop user and never cared of this):

Being on latest driver 24/7 isn't always the best idea or offering you the best fps/stability either. Most of the new drivers were full of crap and we always had to rely on older drivers for better performance. This 522.25 is a good one indeed.

In terms of legions, until this 522.25 driver appeared, 511.79 "crushed" every other driver in benchmarks/performance

so whoever used 516.94, 517, etc had slightly lower performance than someone who was using 511.79(I can't explain it in a better way so I had to explain it like this)

511.23 is almost as good as 511.79, just way more stable and for some it worked the "best" since 511.79 would have unstable fps spikes or causing dim screen

[wraith wharf]

If you plan to do this, I would suggest to list them all the panels that face this issue.

They will fix it for one panel and keep others broken most likely lol

[next yoke]

can you guys list all your panels here?
@sacred siren @vapid escarp you too please if you still have issues. if not sorry for ping

actually i think i can just go scroll up lmao

[wraith wharf]

CSOT T3 MNG007DA1-1 (mine) / Year: 2020
CSOT T3 MNG007DA1-8 (ghostryder's)/ Year: 2021

I will find others's from their pics for you

Sh4DY's is same as mine

[next yoke]

yep i saw. ig for now this is good enough.

[round robin]

Will double check mine now b

MNG007DA1-1 - Year 2020

[next yoke]

i cannot find asderdd's

[wraith wharf]

I found his in other Legion server

he has the same like me and Sh4DY

[next yoke]

so im the only one with BOE lmao ok thanks

DC also has 1-8

[wraith wharf]

What I find interesting is that Kira has DA1-8 as Ghostryder has but doesn't have these issues

[next yoke]

maybe ghostryder has a different issue then? but i saw his reddit thread and it's a gsync stutter issue or so he claims

[wraith wharf]

The difference between them is

Kira has a Legion 7

and Ghost has..I am not sure

I think a legion 5 pro?

So all of our panels that have issues do not support DSC(that was added in the newer drivers(post 511.79)

[sacred siren]

Mine is CSOT T3 MNG007DA1-1 as well. I'm not sure about the production year. I'll check when I get home.

[next yoke]

ok i looked at ghostryder's comments on the other server and it seems like a gsync issue based on the discussion.

the stutters, flickering and overshooting should all be connected. must be a panel behavior caused by the current driver or at least how nvidia handles its gsync.

[wraith wharf]

Also, Intel Fanboi doesn't have this issue but his panel is the most unknown and sus out there

[next yoke]

that's the panel of elf too i think

looks similar

[sacred siren]

I see lot's of new monitors that added g-sync supported list in changelogs.

[next yoke]

#1032808220730859520 message

ah lol intel fanboi is now elf's name

sorry

[sacred siren]

Maybe there is a config in the driver for adjusting specific settings for each panel

[next yoke]

i also don't think the panel itself is incompatible with new drivers since stepping down a resolution fixes the issue

something about native res ig is the problem

[wraith wharf]

Actually nvm, I take my words back. His panel is the one displayed by Jarrod in the 2021 L5 video.

I will try hybrid mode with 522.25 for a brief hour to see if there's any difference

time to DDU again

[vapid escarp]

Back again. Yes that's what find weired too kira has same panel as mine and didn't had any problems. Did he try dgpu without his external screen though ?

[wraith wharf]

I don't think so. I'll ask him. You have a legion 5 pro, right?

[vapid escarp]

Yes

[wraith wharf]

He tried multiple games on the dgpu on main display and all of them were silky smooth

APT; CP2077, AC origins, Deathloop and SOTTR

[vapid escarp]

Also something i wanted to ask you guys is this: On 511.23/79 cpu turboboost would stay at4ghz in every game no matter gpu bound or not. all post drivers have the cpu frequency hovering between 3.1 and4ghz in performance mode

did anybody else experienced this ?

[vapid escarp]

that is so weired, as it's basically the same machine

as mine

[wraith wharf]

Panel-wise yes

[next yoke]

lemme test right now.

im at 522.25 currently. one question is this issue with gsync on or off?

[vapid escarp]

For cpu turbo boost it didn't matter

[wraith wharf]

Hybrid mode so far no issues lol

And the performance did not even seem to take any hit whatsoever

This is in a plague tale Requiem, full ultra at 1600p

[vapid escarp]

What do you know 🥲

[lean geyser]

Here is mine

[next yoke]

these dudes actually acknowledged it lmao

[lean geyser]

@next yoke @wraith wharf @round robin do u guys use vrr?

idk maybe a possible reason?

[next yoke]

i don't think there's an option for me like that

[lean geyser]

its there in Graphic Settings-->Change Default Graphic settings-->Variable Refresh Rate

@next yoke see

[next yoke]

i have it like this

let me try on and off see it does anything.

[vapid escarp]

For me these make no difference. I just leave vrr on

[wraith wharf]

Yes

I'm actually using hybrid on now, I haven't noticed any flickering nor perf downgrade in it

It's not as bad as it was at the start when we all seen the legions

And I don't have external screen

I'll play like this few days to be 100% sure everything is in order

[next yoke]

btw what laptop models do you guys have? i want to include it in Lenovo support forum post

[wraith wharf]

Legion 5 Pro-16ACH6H 82JQ

[sacred siren]

Same

[sacred siren]

Interestingly I don't have these options on windows 11 22h2

[lean geyser]

hmmmmmmm on 22h2 latest build

[next yoke]

Legion 7 16ACHg6 must be shady's model right?

legion 7 2021 5800h 3080

but not sure

[lean geyser]

i dont find anything shady in that

slightly weird gpu and cpu combo tho

[next yoke]

i mean the OP name is SHADY

and that one should be his model

[lean geyser]

heh?

[next yoke]

SH4DY_XVII

[lean geyser]

ohhh

[wraith wharf]

this is mine but doesn't really matter 1-2 builds forward

it's just release preview insider channel

it did not bring VRR since that has been for a while already

[next yoke]

i tried turning it on or off to no avail. the only solution is to just turn it off

[wraith wharf]

I found a way to get rid of the flickers and it seems to be a definitive one in my case, I can't vouch for the stutters as much but gameplay seemed a bit smoother for me with hybrid ON, neither did I notice some FPS loss as it's known about.

[next yoke]

actually i was on Hybrid Mode OFF cause the flickering is way too much on that mode

[wraith wharf]

interesting

here it's opposite

[wraith wharf]

Do you have the AMD driver from website?

[next yoke]

im now on Hybrid mode ON is what i mean

[wraith wharf]

This one

[wraith wharf]

You meant that flickering was too much in Hybrid off and you went ON?

[next yoke]

yes

[wraith wharf]

I see

[next yoke]

also using the AMD one

[wraith wharf]

awesome

Kira suggested me to try Hybrid mode and it's actually way better experience so far

even without external screen

[next yoke]

if i am on hybrid mode off, the whole screen flickers like crazy

at least with hybrid mode on, the overshoot is limited to npcs and small details

actually i just turned off gsync cause 522.25 gives a better low in CP2077

benchmark says otherwise but when i was testing in corpo park it definitely improved min fps by 4-5

[next yoke]

actually never mind. for some reason hybrid mode off is now normal (in a sense that no flickering happens but still overshoots)

[summer prawn]

ohhhh

u installed

Adrenalin ?

[next yoke]

i think amd software is adrenalin

[summer prawn]

yes

[next yoke]

OEM AMD don't have

we installled the latest AMD official one

[summer prawn]

last time i install i get weird screen scaling issue + flicker like crazy on install

ddu the drivers disable auto drivers install and prevent windows from installing their version of amd driver

install the STABLE RELEASE of amd driver

the first dl button is for a pre release or smtg

[next yoke]

22.5.1 is what we have which i think is the recommended one. i think we now have 22.10.2 which is still in testing so idk about that one

[summer prawn]

wait whats the problem rn

[next yoke]

since 511.79 up to 522.25 driver, there is overshooting and stuttering with gsync on. doesn't matter if hybrid mode on or off. overdrive on or off doesn't make a difference

https://streamable.com/0esuxd

^ just an example of GSYNC ON

[summer prawn]

wait wat does overshooting means 😂

[wraith wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaAQncTc7B8

https://youtu.be/_Gsec7ZHeU8?t=128

@next yoke I do enjoy hybrid ON more(I never thought I am gonna say this before) but I feel as if everything feels more vibrant and brightness is actually decent as well

maybe it's just the effect of it

[next yoke]

btw is gpu only mode locking your brightness setting to maximum?

[wraith wharf]

no

@compact hazel can you test if you have HAGS & VRR turned on?

System - > Gaming - > Game mode - > Graphics - > Change Default Graphics settings

Take a pic for me from there, I was presenting your issue(with a legion 7) to someone

[next yoke]

holy shit we got another user here

thankfully gsync is still the problem and not some random shiz

[wraith wharf]

yes

and he got a legion 7 with the same panel as Kira/Yurisa from other server(who do not face this issue)

that's what is strange to me

[next yoke]

ghostryder has this panel

[wraith wharf]

Yeah, I know. I am trying to say that the users from above have a Legion 7, same as PatrickBateman from this thread. So he should have no problems like they do

[next yoke]

they probably dont notice

[wraith wharf]

We should pretty much each one of us forward this problem to nvidia tech support individually and they will release a hotfix or a driver.

[next yoke]

it does not happen to other games

[wraith wharf]

I feel Lenovo is pretty much useless in terms of this.

[next yoke]

i think so too based on how slow they update OEM drivers

[wraith wharf]

nah, Kira tried 5 different games and did not notice a single problem regarding gsync

APT; CP2077, AC origins, Deathloop and SOTTR*

[next yoke]

very interesting

did kira disable ftpm?

[wraith wharf]

No

[next yoke]

or whatever the amd security setting is in the bios

[wraith wharf]

Neither me

[next yoke]

ok me too still enabled

[wraith wharf]

I'm thinking of something else now, what if it's the chip inside the GPU

Some come with micron

Some with Samsung

[next yoke]

mine is micron

oh it's got 2. vram is micron, asic is samsung

do they really have 2 makers of this gpu?

lenovo support and nvidia support ignoring my topic.

getting no replies

[compact hazel]

The stuttering was not happening before. It began after i did a reinstall of latest nvidia driver

[wraith wharf]

Have you tested to see if the issue happens with HDR off as well for you?

[compact hazel]

It does happen

After turning hdr on

It dont

[sacred siren]

I recommend you guys to use amd driver from Lenovo. Approximately a year ago I tried official one from amd website. My screen started flickering after the installation. Even in the bios screen it continued flickering about 15-20 minutes.

[wraith wharf]

Try testing with HAGS off as well

[compact hazel]

Okay sir!

[rancid flame]

disabble all except VRR

and then test ur games

i want to know what games u are testing as well

[sacred siren]

When the HDR enabled, flickering is gone

[wraith wharf]

This is not the case as of now. As long as you install the recommended version and not the optional one

[rancid flame]

not just one game but a sample

[compact hazel]

HZD

[rancid flame]

you tested that game with multiple drivers?

[sacred siren]

Do you have forza horizon 4/5

[rancid flame]

i have

i tested all those

no stutters

no flickers

[compact hazel]

YO,it’s still happening

After turning everything off except vrr

[rancid flame]

then hybrid mode is ur only choice as of now

or go back to 511.23

anyone here tried studio drivers?

latest one

before 522.25

[vapid escarp]

i did sent tickets and forum posts a few times already xd

[rancid flame]

all these optimisations or fixes will only get rolled out in the next driver update

so it will take its own time

[compact hazel]

Hope so

[wraith wharf]

I can test it

[compact hazel]

Nvidia should investigate this issue

[rancid flame]

install studio driver

show me which driver before you install

[rancid flame]

and test games in dgpu mode

[wraith wharf]

522.30 is what I want to test

[rancid flame]

yes

[sacred siren]

Yep, it's same as game ready.

[wraith wharf]

ok, I don't want to test anymore

[rancid flame]

if studio driver is bugged, then only nvidia can help

[compact hazel]

It started happening all of a sudden idk why i did a clean reinstall of nvidia driver SMH

[wraith wharf]

do you remember which driver you had previously?

[compact hazel]

The latest one

[wraith wharf]

in our case(all from here), 511.23 is the last driver that works fine

[next yoke]

please test 511.23 see if that solves it

[wraith wharf]

511.65 is what @next yoke said also works

[next yoke]

511.65 also works yes

[compact hazel]

Was playing uncharted didn’t face a single stutter

[sacred siren]

For myself, there are two ways to stop stuttering.
One is decreasing resolution to 1440p.
Other one is enabling hdr in windows settings.

[compact hazel]

And third is hybrid

[next yoke]

^same. either decrease resolution by 1 step or turn off gsync

mine has no HDR capability

[rancid flame]

then how can you blame the driver and not the game itself?

[compact hazel]

Then why no stutters in hybrid mode ;-;

[wraith wharf]

We need to test in a common game that we can all have access to

such as CP2077

[rancid flame]

cos igpu handled main display and nvidia only handles the game itself

so it cant mess with the panel

[compact hazel]

Idk man i downloaded re village demo it’s still exist in dat game

[wraith wharf]

I'll go in CP2077 to see if I still have stutters there on hybrid

[rancid flame]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/resident-evil-village-stuttering-on-pc-fixed-by-removing-drm

it has drm, so stutters are normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ig4dqozB1I

[sacred siren]

Have you see guys any games that stutter and using any different api from dx12?

[compact hazel]

Welp, if you say so then can anyone test any other game?

[rancid flame]

ignore following games
HZD - memory leak
APT - new game, so don't expect buttery smooth on day 1
RE8 - DRM kek

spiderman remastered is a good one. its been patched well now to say its safe to test

stutters will be much easier to see

also FH5

that game has run so good on mine since day 1

[sacred siren]

Fh5 has stutter

[rancid flame]

even try death stranding

[sacred siren]

It has as well

All of them is dx12

[rancid flame]

and you have same panel as mine?

1-8?

i am ignoring 1-1 for now

[sacred siren]

But not all the dx12 games have stuttering.

Mine is 1-1.

@vapid escarp has 1-8.

[rancid flame]

ppl with 1-8 follow my suggestions

1. install studio driver
2. test games suggested by me
3. test only with VRR on, that means Gsync is ON in Nvidia panel

its ur wish anyways, u can also ignore it and wait for nvidia to offcially roll out an update

just dropping it here in case anyone feels its useful

[compact hazel]

I’ll download GoW and will let you know

[next yoke]

redownloading SOTR

[rancid flame]

oh also SOTR

[sacred siren]

We're waiting a fix for months.

[rancid flame]

that game was awesome

[rancid flame]

yeah i know, since 512.93 or .95

[sacred siren]

Yep

[rancid flame]

i tried that driver when i had my 5p with 1-1

games min fps dropped all the time

[next yoke]

by studio driver the latest one?

[rancid flame]

thats why i stayed in 511.23 till now

[next yoke]

or 517

[rancid flame]

522.3 yes

[next yoke]

ok

[rancid flame]

ignore this POS

everything from 512 to 519 is shit

[next yoke]

forgot this game is 70GB lmao

wasn't there just a demo of this?

[rancid flame]

only steam

[next yoke]

lemme check steam

[rancid flame]

is ur panel gsync compatible?

the 165hz panel?

[next yoke]

yes gysnc compat and 165Hz

[rancid flame]

ah nice

i thought the legion 5 didnt have a gsync panel

but ur panel is neither 1-1 nor 1-8 right? iirc it should be AUO or BOE for legion 5

[next yoke]

BOE yes

[compact hazel]

Min is 1-8, downloading GOW rn

[rancid flame]

GOW ran great in mine

[rancid flame]

also if you only play AAA games like me and if all these does not solve ur stutters. stay in hybrid mode until a fix is released. u wont find a diff between Hybrid ON and OFF in AAA games

[compact hazel]

yep!

[sacred siren]

Gow is dx11 and as I remember it doesn't has stuttering

I have it, lemme check it today

[wraith wharf]

I will post the other recording as well

https://vimeo.com/763732758

I recorded them with slow-mo

https://vimeo.com/763733454

So far no stutters in CP2077 for me

with hybrid ON

[rancid flame]

if you mean that only DX12 games have that, then we all know 522.25 was the first driver that got improvements in DX12. so need to wait for another update or 2 to actually get proper improvement without any issues

[wraith wharf]

I'll download GoW too for testing

[rancid flame]

i already said RUIN months ago that 525.14 would be the driver that will show proper improvements, lets see if that actually becomes a fact

[wraith wharf]

We are still few versions behind it as of now

[rancid flame]

i know

[wraith wharf]

These guys are already talking about 530.04

https://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/35057-geforce-53004-windows-insider/

@rancid flame btw, remember we discussed that in WoW everything past 516 up to 522.25 included caused some artifacts on the screen on /reload of the UI or loading screen itself? These are completely gone in Hybrid mode too

and WoW is also DX12 game

and everything started to happen in late drivers yes

[compact hazel]

I’ll download re 2 which supports dx12 IMO

[rancid flame]

don't make me say "i told you so"

[wraith wharf]

RDR2 should be another good game for testing since it supports DX12

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DirectX_12_games

[lean geyser]

oh rdr2 has so many stutters for me

[rancid flame]

blame ur ram

[lean geyser]

even without gsnc it stutters

[lean geyser]

lets see tommorrow

im getting 1rx8

[rancid flame]

also u have a 3060, so use settings for a 3060

not settings for a 3080

[lean geyser]

lmao i was using xbox settings at 4k

i wasnt vram limited anyway

at 1440p also it was stuttering(uses around 4.5gb)

[next yoke]

@compact hazel can i trouble you for your monitor display using HWINFO?

[wraith wharf]

#legion-7 message

[next yoke]

oh so same display. if kira is using 522.30 maybe i should try

[wraith wharf]

He is in fact the surprising problem to my eyes since his device is extremely similar to Kira's

[rancid flame]

I'm in 522.25

I have an external monitor setup. So no issues for me. But for testing purposes i tried dgpu mode with only the native display and didn't have any issues at all

I am always in hybrid mode due to my external screen, so i rarely have issues

[next yoke]

i see. thanks. hoping lenovo or nvidia notices this issue

[rancid flame]

But i say use studio cos studios are always most stable

GRD have one issue or other due to faster rollout than studios

[wraith wharf]

That's true, yes. However, there were stable GRD drivers in the past, such as 511.23 was that did not have a STUDIO driver, sadly

I suppose 522.30 is the studio of 522.25

[compact hazel]

Okay guys a quick update

Resident evil 3 seems to work fine

With no stutters

Tested with hdr off

[wraith wharf]

DX12?

game supports both 11 and 12

[compact hazel]

Yess sir

[wraith wharf]

Could Borderless(Fullscreen), Fullscreen be related to DX12 and thus leading to the panels interacting badly with gsync on latest drivers maybe

[compact hazel]

I tried both fullscreen and borderless , no stutters

[gilded cliff]

DX12 game with fps capped with gsync on has no stuttering for me

used for testing - horizon zero dawn

same game with fps capped above current fps or no fps cap causes stuttering

turning gsync off fixes the issue, with tearing that could be fixed with vsync

(you probably know all this, tested all this, new to thread)

i have tried exclusive fullscreen and windowed fullscreen, tried disabling fullscreen optimisations and high dpi behavior using properties window of the game exe

played god of war with gsync, which is dx11 i am told, has no issues

[sacred siren]

Yeah I forgot to say, If I cap fps to 83 on fh4. It's not stuttering.

The problem seems to be exclusive for dx12 games and also not all of dx12 games are affected.

[gilded cliff]

if possible game fps > cap put in place, no stuttering.

[wraith wharf]

Hmm, could it be why it wasn't stuttering for me before in other games?

I used to cap all my games at 60 fps

except competitive ones to 162

and now recently when APT: Requiem released, I did not bother to cap it to 60 at all

and all of that ugly ass flickering appeared

[wraith wharf]

So as long as the game is capped at a FPS that your display can maintain, it won't stutter or cause flicker?

[sacred siren]

It's probably.

[wraith wharf]

I was already preparing this for nvidia

but I suppose I'll keep the template

[gilded cliff]

yes

[sacred siren]

We have to add the solutions like decreasing resolution, capping fps etc. that we found as well.

[gilded cliff]

i think capping is the main solution

decreasing resolution u are just targeting that cap

[wraith wharf]

Yes, I will add. I did not plan to send it before I would do more check ups here in the thread

[sacred siren]

Also I'm not sure about mentioning the hdr issue in the same ticket.

[gilded cliff]

btw, i see no flicker

flicker as in rapid brightness change?

[sacred siren]

yes, I found a solution for it.

[wraith wharf]

Btw, I forgot to mention something yesterday

When I was gaming on the dgpu on 522.25 while no flickering, I found out what instantly brought it back

As soon as I had a stutter in APT: Requiem, that flicker instantly appeared and stood there

I'll mention that I had no flicker for straight 30 minutes until a stutter occurred

Then I could never get rid of it anymore

[gilded cliff]

try capped fps once and see if any occurs

[wraith wharf]

I will

[gilded cliff]

i think gsync is fucking up frametimes as far as stuttering is concerned

afterall thats how it works

when u have a locked fps, u have a fixed frametime

[wraith wharf]

Capping fps should not be a problem to do and it should bring benefits. However, this problem happening while uncapped or fps drops below the cap threshold is nasty

Gsync celling should be 47 to 165 iirc

So if fps drops below 47 it should start getting choppy or sluggish

But that wasn't the case when I first played cyberpunk on the legion a year ago

I was driving with 30 fps

[gilded cliff]

is this problem still there with older than 522?

i did not

[sacred siren]

BOE0985, BOE0A40, CSO1600, CSO1609.
For the above panels brightness calibration data registry keys has removed from the section of lenovo 3070 spesific configrations in the driver inf. Starting with 511.65.

[sacred siren]

Because calibration data is missing.

[rancid flame]

even in CP2077 with 38fps at RT ultra + DLSS quality + DLDSR (3413x1920). i had no stutters in bench or in game

[sacred siren]

It's extracted from 511.23

[gilded cliff]

i have this one weird issue
with HDR on, dGPU mode, Gsync on off does not matter
i get this very slight whole screen brightness change when god of war loading screen is there

[sacred siren]

it's the fix @gilded cliff

if you got permission denied when you try to import reg file. You need to give full access right to administratos group for the path below in regedit.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvlddmkm\State\DisplayDatabase

[gilded cliff]

i have a DA1-8

[sacred siren]

it's CSO1609

Just import the reg file and reboot.

[gilded cliff]

i am currently in hybrid mode on
so i shouldnt have this registry entry u suggest right? (because of the driver)

[sacred siren]

I'm not sure about hybird mode has the issue.

It should be like this.

[gilded cliff]

i got the 16090 folder

[sacred siren]

nope it's auto generated.

[gilded cliff]

ok

[sacred siren]

atleast you have to add CSO1609 folder that you have this panel.

[gilded cliff]

i did a brightness calibration btw

well

unable to run

[sacred siren]

do this

you are going to able to import after doing this.

[gilded cliff]

done

[sacred siren]

reboot

[gilded cliff]

just reinstalling driver

then i will surely

[sacred siren]

If you do clean install you have to re import reg file.

Because it will wipe

[wraith wharf]

@gilded cliff @sacred siren let's say you capped your game at 60 fps but it drops to even 40 mid-gameplay(take RDR2 for example), does the stutter occur?

[gilded cliff]

technically, from what i saw in HZD it would

[wraith wharf]

So a game like cyberpunk, how do you want to cap it? 30 fps?

😂

[gilded cliff]

in the area where i was getting 90
capping to 60 would be butter
but if cap was 100
and fps was 90
stutter

[wraith wharf]

I'll mention this in my post

[gilded cliff]

have u tried with and without dlss

if its making any difference

[wraith wharf]

Yes

It still happens in APT Requiem

[gilded cliff]

this issue could be with anything really

from nvidia introducing a bug that destabilized gsync, or the way driver interacts with dx12

[sacred siren]

I have capped only the fh4 which runs at 100+ fps. I'm wondering the same question.

[wraith wharf]

Which one?

I lost count so far

[sacred siren]

this one

[wraith wharf]

OH

so that's why my screen turned dim with 511.79

[gilded cliff]

HZD taking forever to load

[wraith wharf]

all this time

[sacred siren]

and it's the fix

[wraith wharf]

and using 511.23 and then installing 511.79 on top of it would cause the dimming to go away

interesting

[gilded cliff]

so clean install isnt the good afterall

[wraith wharf]

But this issue has been fixed in 516.40 as far as I'm aware

511.79 up to 516.40 had dim screen for me

past 516.40 no

[gilded cliff]

thats why install lenovo's version then update without clean install should be better?

[sacred siren]

yep without clean install these registry keys keeping

[wraith wharf]

I'll mention this as well

Is it only for the 3070s?

[sacred siren]

I checked only 3070

[wraith wharf]

Ah, I see

[sacred siren]

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_3A4F17AA

for this device id

[gilded cliff]

so in HZD capped to 80
where i get 80 its butter
where it drops, very choppy
when i get 80 again, smooth

[sacred siren]

in the 511.23 and above these calibration data is exist for this device id.

[gilded cliff]

people doing company's work for them

but companies not listening to people

🤷‍♂️

[sacred siren]

I've spend several hours just for this.

if anyone give the device id of 3060 and 3080 I can check it as well.

[wraith wharf]

Can any of you record the gsync stutter with the gsync indicator turned on and make a video so I can forward it to nvidia? I tried with my phone but the quality felt garbage.

Preferable slow motion as well if possible.

[gilded cliff]

how can i

[gilded cliff]

whats the option in drop down menu?

[sacred siren]

hardware id

or something similar

maybe device id

[sacred siren]

can you right click and copy the text ?

[gilded cliff]

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2560&SUBSYS_3A8017AA&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2560&SUBSYS_3A8017AA
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2560&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2560&CC_0300

@wraith wharfhave u tried installing lenovo's drivers and then 522xx

without clean install

[wraith wharf]

Yeah, already mentioned about this like a day ago or so

still got flicker

[gilded cliff]

ok

go back to 511.23 and enjoy then

<

[sacred siren]

It's exist in 511.23. I'm looking 522.25 right now.

it's also exist in 522.25 for 3060

[wraith wharf]

Can you check 516.40?

[sacred siren]

can you give a link to download

[wraith wharf]

This is when it all happened, btw: #882568626228588595 message

More info here as well: #882568626228588595 message

[sacred siren]

Also I forgot to mention something about 511.79

[wraith wharf]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/190349/en-us/

The one previous to 516.40 is: https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/189682/en-us/ (which still has dim issue)

[sacred siren]

511.79 doesn't has the calibration data for brightness for the panels that I mention above and the brightness slider is working normally. It's using a different way to handle doing this.

[sacred siren]

I think it's related with this

[wraith wharf]

they butchered the curves of brightness

in 511.79

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/882568626228588595/968592560060764210/unknown.png

Do you have any info or knowledge why my L5P native was slightly yellow tint from the very beginning?

And only x-rite calibrated or 5pro.icm profile helped with it

[sacred siren]

sorry I don't.

[wraith wharf]

I was thinking it might have something to do with the calibration registries

[sacred siren]

It might be possible

[wraith wharf]

Do you guys want me to add anything else as extra here?

[sacred siren]

enabling HDR as well for the 522.25

[sacred siren]

but you guys can you check it ?

[rancid flame]

lenovo does not bother with default calibration, thats why they use xrite to do their job. due to that fact, no os laptops have yellow tint or even most with os shipped laptops will have yellow tint, but when xrite runs then it applies proper calibration profile and removes the tint

[wraith wharf]

Oh, I see. So even some with OS had this problem then. I thought I'm one of the few unfortunate cases I've seen around.

Not a big deal so far as I've found the default profile matching similar color gamut as my samsung phone

which is 10/10 perfect to me

[rancid flame]

my laptop was yellow when i booted it for the first time. but due to my old SSD it took my 5p calibratin and made it as color accurate as my 5p

[wraith wharf]

That's interesting because when I used your profile mine was still yellow with it

[rancid flame]

its basically RGB values. but differs in every display even with same model number. idk why, but it could be that each display has its own RGB values for white screen

[sacred siren]

Because every single panel is calibrated in factory ?

x-rite downloads profiles by serial number

[wraith wharf]

Is there any current working link of x-rite even

I found some a while ago but they were for ideapad

[rancid flame]

i have xrite pinned in lenovo lounge

[sacred siren]

#883459566153629746 message

[rancid flame]

download it and see if it recognises ur panel

[rancid flame]

this is a damn good one, how did i miss it

[wraith wharf]

lemme turn hybrid off then

[rancid flame]

i will try to log it in index

[wraith wharf]

Can I straight up use it with hybrid ON?

so I don't bother

[rancid flame]

u can

[wraith wharf]

This one worked, idk why I tried manually to find x-rite some months ago then, smh

[wraith wharf]

also this one worked as well, got these

[gilded cliff]

noone else has that black trailing thing i got?

[wraith wharf]

https://streamable.com/0esuxd like this?

[gilded cliff]

yes!

[wraith wharf]

Already put the links from @next yoke in the post, yes.

[gilded cliff]

exists for everything beyond 511.23

however didnt see it in GOW after i turned off dlss sharpening

[wraith wharf]

GoW is DX11 title so prolly that's why

[gilded cliff]

again a dx12 problem

yes

but i faced it in apex legends as well

which is 11 i think

[wraith wharf]

Not completely sure :|

https://twitter.com/kralrindo/status/1557696932121804800

KralRindo (@kralrindo)

Directx 12 support for Apex coming soon, no any info yet but they added bunch of stuff for it this season

Likes

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Twitter · Aug 11, 2022, 11:54 AM

[next yoke]

nice someone has same problems lmao

[wraith wharf]

@sacred siren interesting how these two are different in file size.
Right is the ones that I've downloaded using the S/N from your link, left are what I had in my system(x-rite installed most)

[sacred siren]

Interesting

can you send me that you downloaded manually for comparing with mine

[sacred siren]

I mean all of them 😄

[sacred siren]

TPLCD_1600_Native_HDR.icm is exact same.

I'm looking the others

[wraith wharf]

apparently I removed the one I had

[sacred siren]

it's different.

[wraith wharf]

and tried this one downloaded

and it was dim af

[next yoke]

are you guys trying to fix the brightness lock when using "gpu only" mode

[gilded cliff]

"brightness lock" ?

[next yoke]

can't adjust

this nvidia guy lmao

said cannot find difference between these videos

GSYNC ON: https://streamable.com/0esuxd 522.25 driver GSYNC OFF: https://streamable.com/7qwwln

[gilded cliff]

u can see tho right?

i have this issue.

[next yoke]

of course. this guy is purposely avoiding the issue or clearly is blind

they said it is aliasing

[gilded cliff]

freesync is best man

:V

0 issues in igpu mode

[next yoke]

finally this guy gets it

lmao

i have to imgur frames

[gilded cliff]

theres this black shadow at the edge of objects

and in GOW, with DLSS sharpening on, i had this white glow around things when i panned the camera

happened without gsync as well so maybe sharpness is broken

[sacred siren]

Fh5 record of @vapid escarp is most noticible one even for blinds

[gilded cliff]

i legit got laptop replacement for this

couldnt use laptop for a month

[next yoke]

your new one is fixed now?

[gilded cliff]

no

got same panel in new laptop

1-8

[next yoke]

fuck i hope they don't ignore the other models which i included. i don't have your msinfos to forward to them

maybe you or ruin can live chat nvidia as well with your videos

[wraith wharf]

Tested Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition on the dGPU mode and seen no flickering nor microstutters so far

[gilded cliff]

i can share mine if u want?

[gilded cliff]

dx version?

[wraith wharf]

12

[next yoke]

the chat ended now. seems like sending msinfo is the last step

[gilded cliff]

do they even look at these?

[next yoke]

they said they do. they forward to developers. i think they are just the people who collect issues

the developers are the one who's gonna actually do things or ignore things

[gilded cliff]

if i record a video of a game that has stutters with gsync will they be recorded in screen recording?

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-gif-8607749

this type

[next yoke]

it's noticeable. the FH5 vid by ghost is very noticeable

[gilded cliff]

i know but what am saying is do devs react to these reports

[next yoke]

it's also noticeable with my CP2077 vid

[gilded cliff]

screen recording, from a software

not phone's camera

[wraith wharf]

All of the videos from this thread have been forwarded to them via my post earlier

I don't have anything else

[next yoke]

the open issues in geforce driver 522.25 feed back thread was growing every week. i think they do react if enough people are reporting

[gilded cliff]

is there a way to get beta drivers?

[next yoke]

i will try to reproduce the issue in SOTR. i uninstalled it cause it's having same problems and it's just taking up space

the leaked ones are here i think. 525 and 530. maybe in #tweakers

[wraith wharf]

If you want to catch stutters better, you should do it with slow-mo as DC suggested me to try

[gilded cliff]

did anyone try? do they have same issues

i have slo mo i can try

fk it ill try rn

[next yoke]

skyrim se which is dx11 have overshoot unless i cap to 60fps

which is forced by my enb anyway so no problems and i meet enough performance to lock it there

[gilded cliff]

slo mo aint capturing stutters

how can it

[wraith wharf]

the micro stutters

not the actual ones afaik

if you pan camera around

it should be able to be noticeable

try without as well if you feel it's better

[gilded cliff]

k then my phone is shit

sorry

[next yoke]

steam is kinda slow on downloading games right now. im trying to download games i actually play there

like witcher series

and far cry

just to test

tbh i don't have that many dx12 titles

[wraith wharf]

I'll try GoW but I highly doubt I'll have any problem in it

[next yoke]

uploading skyrim video right now.

it's good to have many games caught in 4k so nvidia cannot say ask cp2077 dev to fix this

@gilded cliff just to be clear, locking the fps at where you can be stable fixes the issue right?

and this with overdrive off?

https://streamable.com/eazcq2

do you guys notice it in this vid as well? look at the corner of the sign

[wraith wharf]

yes

but it's very subtle to notice

[lean geyser]

cant seem tto really notice it

[wraith wharf]

I took a pic

to help you out

[next yoke]

522.25 actually made it less noticeable. i thought it was gone too.

[lean geyser]

ooooh can notice it now

but actually isnt annoying

[wraith wharf]

I had to spam win+shift+s like 20 times

[next yoke]

or maybe my tolerance is now f-ed up. and my expectations are so low

[wraith wharf]

to catch properly

[lean geyser]

lmao

[wraith wharf]

nope

Instead of being sharp like on right side

it creates that overshoot below

[next yoke]

i tried to capture it in buildings but it's less annoying when i watch it on video (and hard to notice) than when you are sitting in front of the screen yourself and playing the game

[wraith wharf]

nah, these monkeys from support need to check carefully not play the video 100 times

try taking SS if you don't have slow-mo(talking to them)

[next yoke]

yeah i took a screenshot and they recognized it in an instant

it's hard to reach lenovo live chat

im thinking it will be better to actually talk to someone from their end than rely on someone replying on their forums

[wraith wharf]

What can Lenovo do?

It's on nvidia side

[next yoke]

raise it to nvidia maybe

[wraith wharf]

Yeah but I don't think they will know what to even explain

but worth a try, ig

[gilded cliff]

Yes

The black shadow, no

Stutters, yes

But u see gsync is only useful with variable rate

Else u can just lock and use vsync

[next yoke]

that's true. why turn on gsync if game is fps locked

[gilded cliff]

@next yoke you are able to use overdrive!?

This clip u shared, it becomes 10x more nasty with overdrive

Atleast used to for me, after which I didn't try using it

Also try 511.23 and see if black shadow still exists for u. I couldnt see it then

[next yoke]

yeah overdrive is 10x worse

511.23 fixes this

we already tried like 10+ drivers here i think

only 511.65 and older works with gsync

i wonder what really changed in 511.79

[gilded cliff]

how did they fuck up an already working thing and that too in all versions

[next yoke]

really makes you think lmao

[gilded cliff]

if u break it, you fix it in next update or revert it

[next yoke]

i think this issue is isolated within legion laptops with gsync that's why there was no noise about it

[gilded cliff]

how do people not notice it

other legion users

[next yoke]

your guess is as good as mine lmao. i have no clue

but at first i thought this was normal. until i saw a reddit post describing this problem. i only looked for a solution cause after i used DDU, windows update the driver by itself. Lenovo one has a more noticeable problem

[wraith wharf]

me used to play at 30 fps on my gtx 660 last year

Would I ever notice?

It it wasn't for the flickering, I wouldn't have thought I'm having microstutters either

[round robin]

Annoyingly when you capture, it doesn't record the G-Sync stuttering. At least i don't think. Will give it a shot!

[sacred siren]

It records

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JLtk2CCZInDrGQXDr7rS6qQvVF91Hi2y/view

[round robin]

Oh man I'm getting PTSD just watching that.

Gonna capture in MW2 now cos it's rampant in there too

[round robin]

Is ggogle drive free? file size it too big for here

[sacred siren]

it's free for 15gb

[round robin]

sweet

I uploaded to google drive but it won't show/play yet. ''Video is still being processed. Try again later.''

[sacred siren]

It takes some time to re-encode video by google.

[round robin]

Ah no worries. Will link it later then

[sacred siren]

you can still share the link

[round robin]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XeSE1gS_ba5ptwVOCq7WDI9TCfE4e0xB/view?usp=sharing

[sacred siren]

it's obviously visible

[round robin]

Wait you can watch that vid??

Wtf i can't lol

[sacred siren]

I able to download

[round robin]

Ah

Yeah pretty much all my games play that way

anything with uncapped frames or that are GPU heavy

[sacred siren]

did you try with hdr enabled ?

[round robin]

No cos HDR 400 is cheeks, but I could

[sacred siren]

I don't have stuttering with hdr.

[round robin]

Interesting...

Win 10 or 11?

[sacred siren]

11

[round robin]

okay then that isn't the issue either then cos i'm still 10

oh my god..... SMOOTH AS BUTTER

[wraith wharf]

Windows 11 has certain improvements towards HDR over 10 hence why on 11 it might work to remove the gsync issues

Ah

[round robin]

HOW CAN IT BE FINE WITH HDR BUT NOT SDR.... ''This deals getting worse all the time''

[wraith wharf]

Because I think this has something to do with the brightness of the display maybe

Hmm..

So, dx12 games, hdr or hybrid or capping fps or lowering resolution

[round robin]

You know what, HDR isn't even terrible on this panel. It pretty much just looks like SDR tbh.

Typically on HDR 400 screens it looks dreadfully dull af, like my LG 27GP850

Well at least for now I can still play some CoD on the internal screen with G-Sync HDR when i'm at work. I'm still gonna get a Lenovo Tech out my house though. Ain't taking this lying down!

[next yoke]

lucky you guys have HDR

[wraith wharf]

It's not that good as you might think

Can't compare it with true hdr

[vapid escarp]

The problem i have with hdr is.that you get that blinking effect due to 1 zone dimming

[wraith wharf]

Which one?

[vapid escarp]

When you have like a scene changing or a loading screen

[wraith wharf]

Similar to my flickering?

[vapid escarp]

No

It's just brightness adjusting

A bit

With hdr

In some games

I don't know if it's normal or not. For example in uncharted 4 when it shows the loading screen with the coin it does it.

[wraith wharf]

You tried both auto hdr and without it?

[vapid escarp]

Yep

In games that are most of the time the same brightness like forza, fortnite and so on its normal

Quite decent

And a bit better contrast than sdr

[wraith wharf]

I haven't tried uncharted yet. I have it installed but I'm unsure which coin even

[vapid escarp]

The loading screen basically

[wraith wharf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/yd12fp/screen_flickering_while_gaming/

I see people starting to have same problem like us

on 2022 devices

sad

[next yoke]

actually solved now. i just turned off the AMD PSP in BIOS now can use GSYNC

stutter also gone

downside cannot use PIN

[sacred siren]

really

[next yoke]

yes

[sacred siren]

I'm trying

[next yoke]

Lenovo personnel replied to my post

i was skeptical at first but i already tested in 3 games

[sacred siren]

can you give the link?

[next yoke]

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops/GSYNC-causes-overshooting-and-micro-stutters-in-game/m-p/5177723?random=f9e22b2cf9fe467cc087adcf42dc159e&page=1#5779392

yeah i tried to make the issue apparent like looking at stuff at a steep angle and moving the mouse at a fast pace

can no longer see the black outlines

no more stutter too

[sacred siren]

Im recovering the pin

[next yoke]

facepalm on lenovo if this is the solution

might have a new bios update that's needed i guess

nevermind it's still there for skyrim

i wonder why it's gone in CP2077

[sacred siren]

still stuttering

not worked for me

[next yoke]

yep it's not a solution

skyrim still has gsync

it's not noticeable now in cp2077 tho

i will just reply it's still there

tho i cannot reproduce it in skyrim

or maybe gsync was not applied when i changed settings. i had it off (GSYNC indicator was not seen when i was testing games before skyrim, in skyrim the indicator was visible)

yep gsync was not applied i think. now i can see it in CP2077

[sacred siren]

when the gsync is disabled, it's not stuttering like that

[next yoke]

yep now stutters again

effin lenovo had me for a second there

[wraith wharf]

I'm swimming through BIOS versions atm but to no avail anyway

from 44 to 57, from 57 to 49, now back to 44WW

[next yoke]

yep it's def an nvidia issue

doubt lenovo can help us even if they want.

[wraith wharf]

49WW is nice bios and seem to have few interesting fixes but I felt as my fans are a bit more loud/CPU is heating slightly more

[next yoke]

i listed our solutions in my reply both to nvidia rep and lenovo rep

The problem goes away if:

1. I am using the 511.65 Game Ready driver and older. 511.79 and later drivers all have overshoot or stuttering issues or;
2. I play the game at a lower resolution than native. For example, my native is 1920x1080p. If I play at 1680x1050p, the problem goes away or;
3. I turned off GSYNC or;
4. I use a display with no GSYNC compatibility therefore effectively turning off GSYNC.

[wraith wharf]

Hybrid on doesn't work for you?

[next yoke]

doesn't

im always on hybrid mode after i read the issues here when upgrading drivers

[wraith wharf]

For me it removes every flickering or artifacts that I had. Regarding microstutter & stutters themselves, not really, I still feel them.

[next yoke]

with gpu mode im stuck with max brightness

i cannot control

[wraith wharf]

Tried to DDU?

[next yoke]

how it looks. im on gpu only mode in nvcp

yeah tried DDU

[wraith wharf]

hmm, I had a bug like this when I was playing with x-rite profiles

[next yoke]

im switching to optimus when im just reading

i saw similar issue under geforce forums

[wraith wharf]

but mine fixed itself after a restart 🤔

[next yoke]

i should probably comment on that post as well

[round robin]

Yeah please do bud. The more of us that pile onto a post that has Lenovo's eyes on it the bigger chance we have at getting this resolved.

[gilded cliff]

Look at that lamp pole making black shadow oof

[gilded cliff]

U need a bit of tweaking and for me only good upto 90% brightness
This panel sucks at reds

[gilded cliff]

Same happened

Also whenThis happened to me I could still control using keyboard

Or even windows settings

Just this panel was bugged

[wraith wharf]

Avoid playing A Plague Tale Requiem with 511.23. It causes a blue pop on the screen(similar to BSOD) when trying to throw the pots on the ground or anywhere.

[sacred siren]

Dlss enabled?

[wraith wharf]

yes

on Quality

[sacred siren]

Disable it

[wraith wharf]

I've already went back to 522.25, I was just testing gsync to see if I have problems with 511.23 in the game

[sacred siren]

Almost every new game which dlss supported has graphical problems with older drivers when the dlss is enabled.

[wraith wharf]

hmm

[sacred siren]

511.xx died about dlss

Stay on 511 is not acceptable thing at nowadays

[wraith wharf]

If we think about it, it would make sense as the new games would come with a newer DLSS version nvgnx.dlss and that 511.23 would conflict with

[wraith wharf]

apparently yeah, I did want to use it as a last resort but w/e

I will cap fps to 60 in APT: Requiem with 522.25 to see how it behaves

[sacred siren]

Absolutely

[wraith wharf]

That date difference

what a meme

[next yoke]

is 511.79 a hot fix?

[wraith wharf]

I just sorted them by Recommended, prolly that's why

[sacred siren]

It's also release day of the god of war pc

[wraith wharf]

Because on all, it appears like this

[wraith wharf]

So far only Marvel Spider-man cried to use latest driver as of now

everything else was compatible with 511.23

[sacred siren]

If you disable dlss you can play it with 511.23

I can get 60 fps at ultra settings with rtx disabled

new update is avaible

[wraith wharf]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-25-2022-kb5018496-os-build-22621-755-preview-64040bea-1e02-4b6d-bad1-b036200c2cb3

quite a lot of changes

[round robin]

Ugh so i've had a response back from the Lenovo premium care team. OFC they want me to reset my machine which doesn't surprise me. I really can not be bothered reinstalling absolutely everything from scratch when we all know that won't solve anything. Can i just tell them i've done that already or will they find out if they send a technician out and he see's i didn't do a factory reset lol

They also linked me driver 516.xx which i thought was odd.

[next yoke]

just say you tried that already. we all know it's a driver problem. either Lenovo escalates it to Nvidia team or we will be stuck with no GSYNC on our GSYNC compatible machines

[round robin]

I just sent them a wedge of an email lol

The hours we've collectively sank into this is dumb af 😬

[wraith wharf]

are these monkeys hit in the head or what

Wait, what if you tell them Marvel Spider-Man doesn't run for you on 516 as excuse

And even so, you can tell them that you tried 516.40 and you have same gsync issues with it

[round robin]

I told them the last known working driver is 511

[wraith wharf]

should have specified 511.65 to be precise

past 511.79(included) it got broken

They might think all lineup of 511 works fine

[round robin]

It doesn't matter that specifically, all they need to know is every driver since 512 has been busted

[wraith wharf]

From a scientific perspective(if they would go and analyze all drivers), I do think it would matter

[round robin]

I can't wait for them to respond by telling me to just use 511 forever 🤦🏻‍♂️

[wraith wharf]

maybe I'm just wrong

[wraith wharf]

I used it today in APT: Requiem and had some bluescreen like effect

when throwing pots

with it

LMAO

[round robin]

Yeah it's just too old at this point, will only get older

I'm a stubborn mule though i won't budge until they make good on fixing this shit

[next yoke]

i included this with my nvidia support email. status is now "researching"

[sacred siren]

Did you guys include the HDR brightness bar issue?

[wraith wharf]

the one where brightness gets stuck and you have to re-drag the bar?

[vapid escarp]

I'm rly curious too see if next nvidia driver has anything regarding our g-sync issue, as there's no shortage of feedback from us

[sacred siren]

I don't have it. I mean this one.

[wraith wharf]

New driver already released

https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/526.47/526.47-win11-win10-release-notes.pdf

[sacred siren]

[lean geyser]

mind testing?

[lean geyser]

ooo

[sacred siren]

still stuttering on fh4

[wraith wharf]

I will test it in a bit. Have to help a neighbor with a phone call

Been sitting for 15 minutes with a freaking robot

[lean geyser]

oh

[vapid escarp]

yep, same stuttering shit

[gilded cliff]

nice

so automatically disable gsync

Nvidia : "people said turning off gsync fixes issues"

i uninstalled HZD

[vapid escarp]

I have a bad feeling, that we'll never see it fixed by nvidia

Unless someone from the community figures out a way to fix it

[vapid escarp]

A new finding that ''fiexes the g-sync stutter at least in this new 526 driver, for example in HZD using the fps limit to have the fps always a few frames under, so basically having a few percents off gpu. For example at low settings setting the fps limi to 90 removes the stutter. At ultra, setting it to 65-70 removes the stutter

interesting behaviour

[wraith wharf]

I am installing the driver now, will do few tests in APT and Cyberpunk first

[craggy dune]

Does gsync run tho ?

[vapid escarp]

Yes it does

[next yoke]

will test later

[wraith wharf]

Oh guess what

526.47 brought the SAME dim brightness issues for me

As 511.79 did

@sacred siren can you see if they removed the registries again?

Apparently it has the very same brightness behavior for me as the 511.79

[next yoke]

i think we were too late raising these issues for the fix to be included in nov driver

if december driver still have the issues then we may have a problem. that being we may never see this fixed

[wraith wharf]

Am I the only one who got the brightness issue with newer driver now?

All of you are safe?

[lean geyser]

SAME LOL

first time for me

a reinstall fixed for me

[wraith wharf]

I used the registry from @sacred siren and rebooted

Got fixed

[lean geyser]

i see

[next yoke]

is it possible to ask mods here to pin some known fixes to driver problems?

this driver sucks more than 522.25 driver lmao

[wraith wharf]

#1032808220730859520 message

This is the fix for the brightness issue @lean geyser

[storm yoke]

@wraith wharf only to 2022 gen 7 versions right?

[wraith wharf]

This is specific to whoever has this problem only with dim screen

[wraith wharf]

link me your panel from hwinfo

[next yoke]

what's vernnon's issue?

[storm yoke]

No one @next yoke...I'm on legion 7 gen 6, had no issue

Sorry @wraith wharf, i was talking about gen 7 (I heard this issue in gen 7)

[next yoke]

👍 thought u also have same problems with gsync. but for data collection sake, can you please share your hwinfo about the monitor display? since u gen6 too

[storm yoke]

I was talking about brightness issue...I had the gsyn issue too

Unfortunately

Yes, let me turn on the lap here

But mine is a MNG007DA1-1 panel

[next yoke]

thaanks. ok it checks out with the other panels i raised to nvidia and lenovo

[vapid escarp]

Do you guys see the same thing with brightness/contrast changing with hdr on in darker scenes when toggling riva stats ?

[storm yoke]

I'm with this laptop about one month and hadn't notice the gsync issue. Yesterday I was playing Shadows of Tomb Raider, doing the benchmark and saw some little stuterings in the end of it, as soon as i disabled the gsync in the nvidia panel, the problem is gone. Came herer to search about it and find this topic...

[gilded cliff]

already told this yesterday

it is happening because gsync doesnt have to do anything if u have a constant fps

[vapid escarp]

well, that makes sense indeed

[next yoke]

@storm yoke can you check if 511.65 or 511.23 has no issues with gsync?

[storm yoke]

Yes sure bro but not now (I'm working), I let you now latter

need to use ddu to remove the driver and install the oldest

[sacred siren]

On the version 511.79 and 526.47 brightness slider works normally on mine when the HDR enabled/disabled even the the required registries doesn't exist.

but contrast is weird compared to the other versions.

[wraith wharf]

that's quite interesting that it works fine for you

Then something is broken on my side?

I remember we both have same panel

[sacred siren]

if it's da1-1, yes.

[wraith wharf]

I wonder how do my registries get wiped with 526.47 and yours stay then lmao

[sacred siren]

It was the same on 511.79.

[wraith wharf]

Has anyone tried to install OEM driver from Lenovo website and on top of it 522.25?

regarding gsync

[storm yoke]

withou clean installation?

*without

[wraith wharf]

yes, it would make 0 sense to do clean install

clean install between drivers would prevent the 2nd driver from taking things from 1st driver

[storm yoke]

yes

[wraith wharf]

Seems this 526.47 driver is a one to skip as of now

I'm noticing issues here and there on reddit + I had some sketchy glitches/artifacts on the screen while browsing in Edge

[sacred siren]

522.25 works well except g-sync.

I rolled back to 511.23.

[round robin]

I'm not at all surprised the new driver hasn't fixed G-Sync tbh. Like Hikari mentioned, if we still don't see it fixed for the Dec driver then yeah it's looking bleak that this will ever get addressed. BUT, on a positive note we do seem to be finding more and more users with the bug, so if you're one of them and haven't contacted Lenovo and Nvidia yet I highly implore you to do so. The more reports they get the best chance we have of getting this addressed 🤝

[wraith wharf]

I am pretty sure there are way more than this

I keep telling everyone with the problem to join this thread so we can all add up and check for the issue.

Because if everyone can contribute with testing, more or less, we can prolly get to the source of this issue

Doesn't matter if some do not talk or maybe do not know what to say or reply with, they will be witness if we find a fix and they will be able to solve their issue as well and we'll all do so

[round robin]

Oh i agree, there's probably many users that have it and can't even tell it's an issue lol. I envy them almost.

[wraith wharf]

Honestly? I was one as well. I wouldn't have come to this topic if I wouldn't have had flickering in RDR2/APT: Requiem with 522.25

[round robin]

OR even users than do have the issue just don't play the games that highlight it the most.

[wraith wharf]

because I did not know how gsync stutters feel like, I was a GTX 660 user before this legion

so imagine I played at 30 fps..and did not feel what microstutters are

[craggy dune]

i was a intel hd user

More powah than a 4090ti

FH4 at 20 fps

[round robin]

CCTV

Hows this new driver anyway? (G-Sync aside)

[next yoke]

still stuttering in:

1. CP2077
2. Skyrim SE
3. SOTR

locking these games' fps is a no-go since the lowest fps i encounter is at 40s-50s. but most of the time i get above 70s. actually lemme try locking CP2077 fps see if it behaves like other games i play with locked fps

[round robin]

If you can, run games in HDR, For some dumb af reason G-Sync actually works as it should with HDR enabled

[next yoke]

display dont have that option